Mary Boleyn Facts: Who was Mary Boleyn? (Mary Boleyn 1)
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- Опубликовано: 3 фев 2019
- Mary Boleyn is a hugely popular historical character and Claire is always receiving questions about her. In this video, Claire Ridgway, author of "The Fall of Anne Boleyn: A Countdown", introduces us to the mythical Mary Boleyn, the Mary of fiction and movies, before examining what we actually know about her. In Part 2, Claire will look at main myths, assumptions and theories surrounding Mary and see if they have any basis in fact.
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Very interesting channel without a lot of nonsense and dramatic frivolity. In it’s stead- information supported by substantive research. Thank you from the US!
I also wanted to add that I think people find comfort in Mary's tale. What happened to the Boleyn family was awful and her story is a bright spot. She got a modest "happily ever after."
I completely agree.
Sadly, she only lived for 6 years after Anne's murder....."happily (as far as we know) for a little while" might be more appropriate
@@leanie9660 she DID write that she married for love, and it WAS the 1500s, so a particularly long life wasn't necessarily in the cards for her.
@@leanie9660 Or "happily six years after"
Seems so!
loved it! Not a fan of The Other Boleyn Girl (the book) How the sisters had to HATE each other and compete for a man and for the family's approval, the dumb blond (Mary) versus the shrewd brunette Anne.... seriously... but I digress! I think the fascination with Mary is partly because she was Anne's less famous sister, but she also seemed like a woman who followed her heart, not her head. The Boleyn "kids" seem all so passionate with a zest for life. While she may not have been implicated in all the "Anne Drama", it seems like she didn't have that easy of a life. Having to beg for money from Cromwell can't have been easy. Falling out with Anne can't have been easy either. Seeing her siblings killed must have been horrible. And living with her "reputation" can't have been easy either. She might have loved William Stafford, but did she REALLY have that many marriage prospect having been the King's Mistress? With her family not bothered to try and help her FIND a suitable husband or help her financially. Lastly, it seems women were "lost" in the records more than the men. If any of you have done genealogy, you'd know :) I can find ALL kind of goodies on my male ancestry and little of the women, despite them having been (without a doubt) the foundation and the glue of the families. Looking forward to part 2~
Real history is so much better than the fictionalised version always.
I've really enjoyed this channel. Thank you!
I don't think it's just because Mary is a "blank canvass" that has people so interested in her. I think that she was very likely an all together ordinary person but she was there to witness all of these world changing things and she had one of the most famous women in history as a sister. People want to step into her shoes to see the things she did.
I recently learned I am a descendant of Mary, so I am ever so grateful for this great video!
Then we are cousins, as my g grandmother x13 or 14 is Catherine Carey, daughter to Mary.
Thank you,
Kathryn
I am using my husband's cellphone. My name is Kathryn Newman.
What would you do if you met the person that was Mary in a past life?
@@edwardberger5244 same for myself. Hello cousin.
Edward Berger I am also related to Henry Carey, your my distant cousin!
I suspect Mary herself would have been astonished by the degree of interest in her life; I suspect she was under no illusion about her importance in the greater picture of world history.
Thank you Claire for your fascinating insights into Tudor history. Every episode is a highlight!
And although THE OTHER BOLEYN GIRL (published 2001) gets all the press, there's another simply wonderful novel about Mary by Karen Harper, THE LAST BOLEYN, published in 2006.
Fascinating! Looking forward to part 2. I've always though of her as the luckiest of the 3 famous Boylens in that she escaped the block and was able to find true love and a peaceful life with her second husband. And how intresting to learn her connections to today's Royals!
Thank you so much for this! Mary Boleyn is my 13th great grandmother!
I love your intake on all Tudor topics!!! Love your videos!! 💕 I greatly look forward to them!!
Hello from the States! I just ran across your channel. I love this and the way you present the fact vs myth. Thank you from a fellow History lover. 💗
Thanks so much for this video 💓
I so look forward to your channel daily. To meet you is a dream of mine someday. I appreciate that you stay with the facts and make it more interesting than any novel I have read. Thank you for sharing 💕.You are the Queen 👑 of Tudor History for sure.
Aw, I'd love to meet you too. It's always wonderful to finally meet people I've corresponded with online and to be able to talk Tudor.
I wish you'd been teaching when I studied history. Thank goodness for the invention of RUclips and the internet that allows us all to enjoy your research and enthusiasm. Thank you so much for investing so much time in publishing on this platform in addition to your other outlets. I really enjoy your presenting style and calm but enthused delivery.
@@dees3179 thank you! I love talking Tudor and it's lovely to hear that people enjoy my work.
I'm catching up on videos that I haven't yet seen and this one is fascinating! I hadn't known that there was this much information on her. I can't wait to see the next one!
Wow that is fascinating. To know just that much is amazing. Thank you so much. I just come across your channel a few weeks ago and I absolutely LOVE IT.
Thanks for this video on Mary! I've always wondered what her relationship was like with her sister. They were separated so young, but then that was also the case for Anne and George and that didn't stop them from developing a solid friendship. I wonder if Anne's independence, ambition, and courage simply gave her more in common with him. Much respect to Dr. Ives. I have his book too and love it!
Loving these videos, Claire!!!
Love this series on Mary. She is so interesting because so much is not known. Being once the kings mistress.....maybe there was a reason no records exists. I look forward to your next video❤
Thank you so much for these videos. Just love them. Wish we knew more about Mary too.
So informative!
Love your videos!
Hi Claire! Love your necklace! This video is fascinating. Thank you so much! Perfect timing of the bells! Love you, take care. 💙✌👍👸👑🏰🎪🙋
I often what's these videos while I'm getting dressed in the morning or at lunch at work on my phone. I just realized today that I can watch this on my Roku. Now I can watch and move about. I start my morning and end my day with these videos. These are the best history lessons I've ever heard.
I thoroughly enjoy your insights & perspectives on the life of AB. Like you, I am also a huge fan of Eric Ives’ work. Looking forward to many more discussions.
this is a very interesting and enlightening share...........after all was said and done , mary was the most fortunate , of the three ......thank you , for the share........
Since I‘ll be traveling to London this Sunday, I‘ll try to get your book at a local store! 🥰 great Video thanks
Thanks so much for these informative series!
Such interesting information! Thank you!
So interesting. I have been reading Anne Boleyn, Adultery, Heresy and Desire. Anne and Henry visited Mary while on progress several times during the “engagement” of Henry and Anne. Don’t you think it must have been awkward to visit so often and to have Mary as part of her feminine court? I can’t imagine seeing my husband’s girlfriends at my house every day.
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I missed this one first time around, but so much better late than never.
Thank you Claire. I loved this. Real history not fiction in an easy to understand format. That is quite an achievement.
... The truth is out there...
Thanks for bringing it to us.
Love your factual videos!! Very insightful truths!!
I'd love some videos about Thomas Cromwell if possible!
I'm sure I will be covering him sometime this year.
Claire. I want you to know that I love all your facts about Mary Boleyn. This is one of my favorite of your videos.
I think your are right about Mary is the perfect canvas for writers.
Thank you! Excellent info!
I enjoyed this very much!
I agree with you that Mary is an empty canvas, we can make of her whatever we want to make of her. But beside that, she was the Boleyn who seemed to have followed her heart and left court in order to live a life of happiness, instead of luxury.
The most important thing however, in my opinion at least, is that she survived. She did leave children and with that a legacy which her siblings were ultimately unable to do.
My question though...do you think that perhaps because she did not wish to continue that Luxury life...do you think somewhere out there, some of the Boleyn Family is still around, not wanting anyone to know because Mary Boleyn was smart and just left History tell it's own?
@@scratchorror there are careys yes like duh. really?
@@julianakleijn2487 Who is asking you? No one. Duh. 🙃
Yaaay this is my ancestor! :) Im descended from her and Henry Carey (Or Henry VIII) and William and Catherine Carey :) GO CAREY'S GO!!!
You've got a few relatives in the comment section. You guys should get acquainted!
My distant relative as well. I want to learn more about her.
Mary Boleyn is actually my 12 great grandmother! I’m related to her through her daughter Lady Catherine Carrie Knollys!!
@@raybeesmustsuck hello from the US, cousin ☺
@@amberlikescats7192 HEYYY
Thank you so much, Claire! I will be looking for part 2 of this! I am a direct descendant of Mary Boleyn and her Daughter, Catherine Carey!
That is very extremely cool. Are there any pictures of Mary that you know of? I wonder how much she looked like her sister. I wonder if some of the ones that people think are of Anne but don't know for sure might actually be of Mary.
Wow how amazing and interesting!
Me too! Hi cousin lol
I am also descended through daughter Catherine!
Levina Conrad Hi, cousin!!!
Thanks for this video!
I have always been curious about her burial place and why we wouldnt know where that is at least?
Her date of death is recorded but not her place of death and no tomb has been found. It is very frustrating.
I suppose maybe she was considered minor enough by then that her death wasn’t specifically important. There seems to be much less information (that we’d find important) on women of middling stature. The land and glory was passed through the men, so to a degree, especially in loveless marriages, the woman was more a brood mare. People are more likely to build monuments to their liege lord than the woman who either did her expected duty, or didn’t.
In China it was even more common. Names like “Not a boy” or basically “practice for a boy next,” or “wish/hope/long for a brother” were thrown around everywhere, girls were married earlier to eat rid of that waste of a mouth to feed (Confucianism was not kind to women; dead and useless branches of the honorable family tree). It was supposed to be outlawed, but especially in very poor families and even in ruling families, to secure treaties, it was done. In some families it was best to pretend your natal family died. Upon marriage, the wife was instructed to pray to her husband’s ancestors instead of her family’s. Because they were so expendable and able to be swapped out, the worth they had as an integral part of a family’s structure was somewhat lessened. Things like “son born to liege lord’s wife” were disturbingly common in China, rather than even name the woman.
“To breed a girl is something no one wants; she’s not a treasure to her family.” That’s part of a poem from the 3rd Century in China, I believe. While women in England didn’t openly vie for their status amongst concubines or were routinely mistreated by their in-laws (especially mother-in-law) and while some women in China were beloved by their natal and marital families, it was still so unequal.
In Confucianism, women were given the somewhat weaker and less honorable dispositions. Cold instead of hot, poor rather than wealthy, dark instead of light, curved instead of straight, submissive rather than dominant, etc. Due in part to the religious beliefs at the time, I think women struggled with a similar relative lack of worth. If you had too many sons survive, some could go into the army or be gifted to the church, which would get some prestige for the family. If it’s a girl, just hope she’s pretty and can be stomped into submission so she can get a good marriage and bring more prestige to the family. If not, convents worked, but didn’t really have the same “Look what a wonderful gift I gift this church, my own SON!”
Also abuse was not taken seriously for the most part; women sort of disappeared from having rights when they married; their husbands were better trained and suited to handle the money, to have a job, to live outside the home. If a woman was beaten, well, she must have done something wrong. Men could more easily divorce their wives, although it was still looked down on. Men were allowed mistresses, but because the bloodline was so important, if her womb wasn’t on lockdown all the time, it was a huge risk to the way of life and culture. If they’d been tricked into the marriage under false pretenses, if one party was pre-contracted, if one was insane, if they couldn’t consummate the marriage, and sometimes if there was desertion if a party went to a convent, it was possible. But still more likely to go through if a man was pushing it. And abuse wasn’t an aspect of the ruling. There was a medieval woman who had been cheated on, beaten brutally multiple times, made to live in inhumane conditions, was poisoned by her husband, and the court advised her to pray to be more forbearing and patient, but made her go back. She died not too much long later.
With this sort of systemic mentality against women, their worth, and their rights, it’s not surprising that a figure that was only of middling stature in court and lacking many powerful friends at her head, would not be mourned as a man would have been, or even a more powerful woman. Think of the countless serfs and slaves that we’re lucky to get an individual grave (especially when plagues were about) and no family to read and write to record memories of them.
Old women were disliked for many reasons. Women were seen to be necessarily less sound of body and mind than men, but at least period blood helped keep them in check. Once “the change in life,” happened it was seen in some areas that they got more twisted and dark. Men earned their spots and wrinkles working and fighting so why would women get all twisted? It’s part of why old women (widows especially) weren’t really good to be around kids; the idea they could steal the baby’s breath from their cradle or poison their temperaments. Hence the suspicion of witchcraft if anything went wrong. Any malady of age, like arthriticly swollen joints or a hunched back or milky eyes or partial paralysis from a stroke were seen as good signs of inner evil coming out.
This is just stuff I’ve read in the last 15 years, and while some of the authors may have been full of it, the general consensus is that women just weren’t as important in the every day narrative. So preserving their memory wasn’t a priority. It’s true, victors do write the history. And back then, the victor, was far more often than not, a man.
@@SunflowerSpotlight that was very interesting, thank you!
Looking at the portrait of a pregnant Catherine Carey, there is a strong resemblance to King Henry VIII - those arched eyebrows, the colouring and something about the glance convinces me that there is a strong possibility that she could have been fathered by the King.
Henry also seems to have felt some financial obligation toward her. He would never have acknowledged a child from a married woman
Of course, there’s the shared genetics from the Boleyn side, but I think that other than the long oval face, Elizabeth was supposed to resemble her father more than her mother especially in her colouring. Catherine Carey and Elizabeth both look like Henry VIII in features, (I think Catherine looks more like him than Elizabeth to be honest) bearing and their red hair & complexion.
Love any Tudor Trivia!!!!!! Thanks! :)
Interesting overview of the facts surrounding Mary’s life, marriages and affairs. She must have been a busy lady of the times.
🇭🇲🦘 (viewed 17/08/20 and again on 25/01/2021) Love ALL your videos. So much to learn and you make it so interesting. Such a mystery, remains Mary Boleyn. As you expain, many fairytales but not truths. Thank you Claire 👑👍
Beautiful necklace. Love your videos.
You spark my interest in everyone that you do a video on. It is sad that so little is known of Mary. She is certainly an extremely important person in the history of English royalty, being an ancestor of Prince William, the future King of England. Your videos never disappoint.
And after watching the series of videos by Claire and her co author Clare Cherry I am absolutely enchanted with George Boleyn Lord Rochford and I must have and read that book!!!!! Thank you Mrs. Ridgeway, I think that you are simply wonderful and amazing!!!!!
Your channel is so interesting I had to subscribe. What is the music you use for the beginnings of your video. It reminds me of chamber music. Would love to download it.
you are an amazing researcher and i love watching your videos. my brother and I are related to King Henry the First so it is very exciting to watch. i would love to know who to talk to about further research there in England if you have any advise i would love to hear from you.
I think the fact Mary went with Queen Mary to France gives credence to her birth being closer to 1499 or 1501. I cannot imagine an 8 or 9 year old girl would be of much benefit to Queen Mary. Whereas a 13-15 year old girl would at least be of marrying/procreating age.
Yes I intuitively feel Mary birth was winter season in 1499. Meanwhile Anne was very likely 1501, I deeply believe spring (March)
@@Tgogators Eric Ives mentions that Mary was probably the elder sister due to the inheritance of land that came down to her son or grandson from the Boleyn side of the family. It was supposed to go to the elder Boleyn sister, and had he been wrong he would have been claiming the land away from Elizabeth who would have otherwise been the rightful inheritor. So he would have been very careful.
@@mariahunter9882 Yes indeed. Mary was the oldest. Having 3 kids in short time spans of another, they were no doubt in pursuit of a male.
Young women usually attended court, to learn to be courtiers, at a younger age, target than their mid teens. By the time young women were 13, it was time for marriage betrothals, if not earlier. Plus, serving at court also provided young women with a good education, which they most likely wouldn't learn from their own parents, especially as young GIRLS. How sad.
Sometimes 8 and 9 years old girls were chosen as ladies in waiting. Before Mary Tudor was married to the French King, Anne Boleyn was a lady in waiting in Austria to the Empress of Austria for 5 years. IF Anne was the eldest child (Thomas and Elizabeth Boleyn were married in 1499) the most she could have been was 16 when Mary Tudor married the king of France. However we think Mary is the eldest so perhaps she was 14. that means she was pretty young when she was in Austria. Also, Mary Boleyn's daughter Katherine Carey was chosen as lady in Waiting to Anne of Cleaves. She was only 12 or 13 at the time. the Lettice Knollys (daughter of Katherine Carey, Mary Boleyn's granddaughter)was a Lady in waiting to Elizabeth when Elizabeth was crowned queen, Elizabeth was only 25 at the time so she was probably a preteen too.
Claire you are amazing I love your history videos
Hey Claire really enjoyed this video keeping me informed with my family links on daddy's side... I certainly didn't know she had two children with Henry, wow.... And on a personal level I'm Loving that disc necklace you're wearing, stunning... Cannot wait for part two Paula x
I'll be talking about her children and who fathered them in my next video in her. Fiction likes to make out that they were fathered by the king but we don't know when she slept with the king and they were conceived when was married to Carey.
Thank you for your insights into the Tudors. When I was in the 6th grade, I had a literature teacher who was fascinated with the history of King Henry Vlll. I became enamored with great women in history when she brought us into the era of Queen Elizabeth l. Since then, over 40 years, I’ve love to study women in history. Thank you again because not all strong women were queens or in the forefront of history.
Will you be doing an episode on Lady Rochford?
I would like to cover Jane, yes. I mention her in one of the videos I did on George with my co-author Clare Cherry - see ruclips.net/p/PLepqWJ7TpkrI6rhmqJdq405P0JBFPVa8o
Thank you for the walk through history, very curious. For me geology is interesting but what people did is fascinating. The Ormsby family name appears 1066 Battle of Hastings then hit and miss. Our own perplexing family mystery, a tree with missing limbs. Again thankful for you fact biased accounts.
Taking your book to Henry and awaiting his response would be awesome ❣️
The trivia at the end about William and Harry is actually interesting!!!
It’s funny, I stood up to go to my room from my living room and I saw my copy of Mary Boleyn: The Mistress of Kings, by Alison Weir. I read nonfiction (or supposedly nonfiction, whatever the case may be!) differently than fiction, except for Autobiographies usually. I sit down and swoop in for a chapter or two now and then unless the writing is just out of the park. It makes them perfect for my coffee table books because of that. I usually read one or two fiction books (fantasy and something else) and one or two non-fiction, one about a person or group of people (Romanovs, The Last Jews in Berlin, Kabul Beauty School), and one about general knowledge or a specific point of interest (Elemental Tales about the Periodic Table, the discovery of the elements and their placement; The Triumph of Seeds, which I’ve read three times, lol; Freakanomics, A Night ti Remember, about the sinking of Titanic written in such an interesting way, with vignettes, How We Got to Now -about the six big innovations that changed the world into what we know as the modern world today, how such things came about).
I basically binge my fiction and sip my nonfiction. One of each is usually an audiobook as well. Sometimes I want to read but I’m not in the mood for the dystopian post-apocalyptic story of what happens one second after the grid goes down. So instead of not finishing a good book I just am not in the mood for, I read something else for a while. It’s useful.
I may need to dive back into the Mary book again. Regardless of if she really wanted to be the King’s (Kings’ maybe?) mistress, she had such difficulty and the scandal and shame from her peers must have been horrible to best.
People do still suck quite a lot, generally, but I think we’ve gotten a little more empathetic. We can’t legislate morality, no, but we can shift the culture to be less one focused on shame and birth status. If humanity IS to progress past our savage pasts, we must get past hating people for the tone of their skin, country of origin, religious affiliation or lack thereof, and sexual orientation. The less people must rely on extraordinary feats of ‘mercy’ due to connections, the better it will be for the vast majority of people.
I love gain any news of Anne Boleyn and her family, I have been interested in the Tudors for a very long time, I tend to make some kind of story on my mind and fit Anne and her family into my story, in which Anne is a very lovely and honourable person , she loved someone else so decided to make the most of what was presented with, in those times women were good for child bearing , cooking , keeping and running a good house, Anne made the most of the bad situation , sadly unaware of what was ahead of her. It would appear Mary did not set her sights so high. I don't think for a moment Henry believed she was guilty of all the eye wash she charged with.
Thanks Claire for Making Facts about me
Thank you so much for this. I am so glad to see the facts sorted from the fairytale. It s quite annoying to see how many people assert her children were Henry VIIIs - seemingly based on novels people have read.
I binge watched the Tudors and now I am fascinated.
Is part 2 up ?
Very interesting to know the real story.
Does your book come in the audiobook format?
Are there any paintings of Mary? Do you know what she looks like?
I love watching all of your video.
The "Bells" are Great.
whos is that big red book beside this girl by? the one called the history of the tudors? I whant to look it up.
It's my own book "On This Day in Tudor History" by Claire Ridgway.
Thanks!
Love your channel.💕You are the Queen of Tudor History without a doubt. I would love to meet you someday as we are kindred spirits. Thanks again Claire for your devotion to us all 👑💕❤️
Are there any guesses where Mary's resting place could be? Is there any ideas where she retired to? Since her children worked closely with Elizabeth for so long there Has to be Something said somewhere in a letter... Or something. It's crazy that so much has been erased from record. That's my thought anyway. Anne was erased or tried to be erased in some cases so why wouldn't Mary be erased too. I hate this mystery so much! I need my history factual and told. This sucks. Love your videos, I watch every single one. My dream is to visit England and see where all of these amazing people lived and touched. But I will probably never get to see them or go. My longtime partner died in 2016 and left our two young boys with me and I can't get on my feet financially. I am just trying to not give up. Anyways, I love your daily videos so much. I read a lot of Alison Weir and I like her because I feel that her research is true and that I can trust her writing. Do you agree with that? I do trust you so please tell me if my trust is off and who else I can trust. I'm going to read your books as soon as I can afford them. Actually, I do have a credit for audible that I can use!!! I'm going to check right now for one of your books. Thank you so much for taking me away for 10 minutes each day..
There is the theory that she may be buried at the parish church at Rochford but unfortunately there's no evidence that she is. It is a mystery.
It is so sad that we don't know her resting place and that we actually know very little about her! She finally married for love, inherited Rochford Hall and died very short after...and we don't know what happend to her 3rd baby (with Stafford)... being pregnant appearing at court ( I think 1534 ) and banished...so sad...thank you for your great videos...I'm from little country called Croatia but very passionate about your history...I really hope we'll find her grave someday...
Thank you for this video. I really prefer truth to fairy tales.
And you go to hang out with Eric Ives? Oh my! That must have been amazing. I would have fan-girled all over him :-)
It was an evening that I will never forget. He did a talk for our group and he asked us to raise our hands when we'd had enough as he could talk about Anne all night. We never did raise our hands!
I have a question. My name along with my 4 siblings is in the back of a genealogical book on King Henry VIII. I was under the assumption that we were descendants of Mary Boelyn. I think my mother (who probably ordered the book in the 1980’s) had traced us back to the time period and discovered that we were descended from Mary, but I’m not sure and need to go through some of her records that I now have. But my mother had a stroke in 1988 died in 1995 so all further research stopped during those years. My question is whether you have a recollection of the book on King Henry VIII’s lineage because the book was never found in my mother’s effects. I suspect an older sister of mine took the book (along with all the genealogy work my mother had worked on for many years before her stroke) which were recently found in my sister’s house when we had to clean it out and move her into a memory care home. My mother’s mother was a Baxter (a fairly common British name) and her grandfather was Elias Wightman (another British name associated with the Isle of Wight off the south England coast.) So I realize this request is quite lengthy but the bottom line is that I would love to find this book I remember tracing from our names in the back up to almost the front and getting excited that we perhaps were direct descendants of him only to discover (I think) that we were descended from Anne and Mary’s parents but it was unclear as to how that conclusion was reached - it was a long time ago and I was busy raising kids and working full time so I never spent much time being involved in mother’s genealogy work.
Thank you
I too, would love to meet you! It would be nice to have someone to ‘talk Tudor’ with and not get a blank stare in return! However, I shall be satisfied to find you on RUclips and get my history lessons that way. I like your style!
Thank you for another lovely video, but where was the cat?
What I find interesting about Mary are the parallels to Anne, yet Mary seemed to have the better life. Mary & Anne were from the same family, served at the same English court, and they both had a sexual relationship with Henry VIII. Yet, Mary marries [presumably] for love, to William Stafford. Mary seems to avoid court life after Anne's fall, yet Mary's children go on to be favorites of Elizabeth's. I suspect, based solely on portraits, that Catherine Carey was Henry VIII's daughter, but Henry Carey was not his son. Lettice Knolles (Catherine Carey's daughter) could have been Elizabeth's twin. I suspect the main reason we know so little about Mary's life before being married is that she was a female child; of no practical use except to be "sold" to the highest bidder [husband]. After her second marriage, I believe she & her husband felt it was safest to distance themselves from the court. The Seymour's would have hated her simply for being Anne's sister. Not to mention, the most obvious obstacle would have been that Mary would have been a constant reminder [at court] of Anne.
I have always wondered though, why Mary was never accused alongside Anne & George. As the Queen's sister, and a widow, Mary would have been in the best place as a cover for Anne, had she indeed been having affairs as claimed. Anne & Mary could have reasonably said that the men went to the Queen's chambers to flirt/court with the Widow Carey.
Mary left court in 1534 when Anne banished her for marrying without Anne's permission. . if she had still been at court she probably would have died with them on some trumped up charge. My guess it would have been something similar to what was done to Jane Parker when Katherine Howard fell from favor.
I doubt Mary would have been executed with Anne and George; after all, their father survived the fall though he was removed from his offices. Mary was smart enough to remain in obscurity.
@@VeracityLH I agree; I think Mary would have walked away from trouble too.
@@melvawages7143 I thought Mary had been welcomed back to court when Anne was pregnant? I might have that wrong though.
Hello Claire. Please comment on the 2021 BBC production of A.B. If not, I quite understand.
I can't, I'm afraid, as it hasn't aired here in Spain. I've heard mixed reviews from friends in the UK and I think it's a shame that they've gone with the usual stereotype of Jane Boleyn.
It is amazing that so little is known about Mary, It really a fallow ground for fiction,
Thank you so much for this video about Mary boleyn! I watch the series Victoria and there was a cholera epidemic. They made it seem like no one ever survived it. Was it possible to survive something like that?
Yes, people survived these diseases. Anne Boleyn had the sweating sickness and survived. People caught cholera and survived. People even survived the black death.
As shammy dammy says, Anne survived sweating sickness, as did her father, whereas other people were recorded as first showing symptoms in the morning and dying before the day was over. Awful.
@@anneboleynfiles I have a picture of queen Mary Stuart of Scots that nobody has ever she when she was five years of age when she was sent to france would you know anyone interested in purchasing i have quite a few more treasures as will..thank you
The church bells are a perfect addition to your chapter ❣️
How interesting! My family carries the name Bolen, it was shortened around the time of the liberty bell being made from what I’m told, and we are told and have papers tracing our family back to Anne, Mary and George. There’s a long line of Georges. My uncle and grandfather were/ are George Bolen. So all this history is beyond educating and interesting. Maybe one day I’ll be able to visit Hever castle
Wow! That's wonderful. Hever is magical, so definitely go.
My family decend from her daughter( researched on ancestery . Com ) i did read that theres about 2000 people aprox who do however lol i also have bessie blounts son in there (spelling) all on my grandmothers side my other family history is harder to track unfortunately
i have a question
did some members of the boleyn family had desendants today?
sorry my english is bad
Yes, and in fact Princes William and Harry descend from Mary Boleyn through both their father, Prince Charles, and their late mother's Spencer family.
@@anneboleynfiles ok thank you for the informatiom
Mary Bolyn certainly a shadowy Tudor character. Interesting to know present royalty connection to her.
How many people in the Tudor court suffered with acute and or chronic anxiety?
Of all your books which single one do you recommend to a relative of the Boleyn family?
I'm a direct descendant of Mary Boleyn through her daughter, Catherine Carey, and Catherine's daughter, Lady Anne Knollys. My great grandmother Maria Leake West is a direct descendant of Knollys' marriage to Sir Thomas West- 2nd Barron De La Warr. Between Anne Knollys and my great grandmother, is a completely male line of my ancestory.
I literally did a spit take at the end of The Other Boleyn Girl, when they said she raised Elizabeth! That’s just so unbelievably fanciful and ridiculous.
I kept waiting for you to say Mary had… a little lamb 🐑 🤣
Another great video about people around Henry VIII. Do we know where Mary Boleyn lived with her second husband. I read somewhere that Anne had given Mary some kind of gift after Cromwell had intersied on her behalf.
It may be that they spent a few years in Calais at the garrison there before returning to England. She didn't formally come into her inheritance until the year she died but if I remember rightly (don't have my notes to hand), she may have been allowed to live at Rochford before that.
I heard that Anne sent her a golden cup
Is there not a Boleyn family bible that would list birth dates, places, death dates and burial sites?
Unfortunately not. Catherine Carey's husband, Sir Francis Knollys, recorded the births of their children in the family Latin dictionary so that is very useful. I just wish Thomas Boleyn had done the same.
I have heard it said that people in the days of king Henry the 8th, commonly thought that they were living in the last days. One documentary about Anne Boleyn even showed a prayer book where Anne wrote a phrase “this is coming- Anne Boleyn” or something along those lines anyway. Can you comment on whether there is any evidence (letters/writings/government documents, etc) that would corroborate that thought?
Most historians that I have read do not believe her son was Henry's. After all, VIII had recognized Fitzroy.
Plus the fact that he wasn't born until 1526, whereas Catherine was born in 1524. It is frustrating that we don't know when Mary had her relationship with the king and whether it was a long relationship or just a one-night stand.
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I am of the belief it ended before Anne, due to Anne's nature.
@@88freedomwriter I'm of the view that it happened before Mary's marriage in 1520. Henry VIII arranged a marriage for Elizabeth Blount after he had finished with her so I suspect that he did the same with Mary. perhaps he slept with Mary when Elizabeth Blount was pregnant in 1519.
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I can definitely see that!
Love your website, by the way. I bought a French hood from it years ago when you guys had reenactment clothing.
It makes sense the relationship with Henry happened quite early on.
So...a Boleyn still has the throne. Good work Anne!
Very informative! Just found out I am also related to Mary Boleyn through the Spencer family. Also, to Mary Tudor Queen of France. There were small circles back then.
60 yrs. ago I found an old book in our attic titled simply "Ann Boleyn". It began my interest in something totally foreign- HISTORY. The times and mores were SO different from modern times ! Women had no rights and were the PROPERTY of their Fathers & husbands. In the upper classes they were sold & traded for money, prestige, and social standing. The royal court was a place of intrigue where each family vied for the king's favor and the gifts of land & power that went with it. Any girl that caught the king's eye could boost her family's position considerably. The king could choose who he pleased for a mistress- including married women & her husband dared not protest. Ann was clever enough (or strong willed enough) to insist on marriage instead of being just another temporary mistress. He must have REALLY wanted this conquest for her to get away with it ! Unless there are personal letters to prove how any of these women FELT, we'll never know. How anyone at court ACTED had nothing to do with their personal sentiments. It was survival- plain & simple.
Jan Van Wagner The romance between Henry VIII & Anne Boleyn was doomed from the start. Henry had chased Anne’s affections for 7 years prior to their eventual
Consummation. All that built up lust, flirting, & imagining. Years of fantasizing & longing, NO ONE could possibly live up to the fantasy & expectations that Henry had for Anne Boleyn. It is just a matter of fact that the chase is the exciting part & the actual “catching” is always anticlimactic. (and here we breaking a chorus of: Is that all there is?”
I'm fascinated with your office. How old is it?
My house is over three hundred years old but that dining room was made from simply adding a polycarbonate roof to the existing walls of the backyard. It's quite rustic!
Henry Tudor: "I'm going to build a car park in the centre of Leicester."👻
Richard III: "Over my dead body."
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I certainly appreciate "The Other Boleyn Girl" for drawing attention to Mary - who has a unique place in history , after all the current Royals are Mary's direct descendants, and the American state of "Delaware" is named for Mary's Great Grandson Del-A-War I believe - but to be simple and frank: "The Other Bolelyn Girl" is rightly listed and housed in the "fiction" sections of book stores and libraries.
You should do videos about Henry VIII sisters and all the Mary's in the Tudor area