I completely agree with what most have said here, the Ghostship demos are far superior to their respective versions on Phantom of the Horizon. This is the song that got me into TFOT, and I still think it's one of their best pieces of work.
Man, I listened to this for the first time like 7 years ago and it blew my fucking mind, *especially* that crazy growl he has on the chorus. I just heard the re-done version, and it's just gutless, stripped of everything that made this so good. It's not even about the production - if he was still bringing that same intensity, that unhinged, manic quality, it would be fine, but whatever vocal training he got between this and the re-recording just de-fangs this song. This is a classic.
Saw this live before they changed it and it was one of the most intense experiences I have ever had. My guess is he changed because it can’t be good on the vocal cords.
This used to be my morning alarm dat DER NEE NER NER, DER NEE NER NER, DER NEE NER NER, DER NEE NER NER NER used to wake a nigga right up Pumped as fuck. Come back to us Fall Of Troy. Chon has taken my ear but you will always have my heart
***** yes, but the question is for how long this time!!? go see them NOW while they are touring, you may not get the chance to see this thunderous Trio ever again!
If there's any reason why every Fall of Troy fan should get the Ghostship demos even if they've already got Phantom.. it's this fucking song, it's legendary.
Im glsd im not a loner anymore. I actually ebjoy the phanto more then this one. and to hear this song sound like this makes me wonder, what was i listening to before.
+Leslie Adase on their previous tour (doppleganger 10 year anniversary) they were playing part IV. also, before their hiatus/breakup they played all of the ghostship songs on a special tour.
@XiDraxxiX everything is better on ghostship demos. I hear some of the changes and addition to POTH and I just ask.. Why? Why put a mustache on the Mona Lisa? Or paint the nose of a picasso in the right place? It was right the first time.
The whole 'rawness' thing is becoming such a cliche in this genre of music. If a band takes an already great song and wants to polish it up a bit, you can't really blame them.
I could not agree with you more. This song could still be just as thrashing with the production value they have today, but they sterilized it in the re-release. Completely disappointing
TFOT were so much better when they put out stuff like this. It was exciting, interesting and raw. Their later stuff was so bloated, too much guitar-wanking and the lyrics were a bit sucky
Phantom failed where all of their newer albums failed. Overproduced and not raw enough. Their first album was by FAR their best. Even doppelganger was too produced. The older versions of the remade songs were all better... including demo versions
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Without joking, this is one of the best post hardcore punk tracks ever recorded. It does EVERYTHING right.
My fav
I completely agree with what most have said here, the Ghostship demos are far superior to their respective versions on Phantom of the Horizon. This is the song that got me into TFOT, and I still think it's one of their best pieces of work.
adtthosa ghostship ep is the essence: shit is unrelenting
Yeah once they were signed the hunger was gone and the neutering started.
This is also their best song
nothing makes me remember being 16 years old like this shit right here
Or 20:>
2016 and I still bump this shit
2021 still Rydin
@@truecrimeobserver yup
and still bumpin this shit hard lol
@@snougy8489 lmao
2030 here
Man, I listened to this for the first time like 7 years ago and it blew my fucking mind, *especially* that crazy growl he has on the chorus. I just heard the re-done version, and it's just gutless, stripped of everything that made this so good.
It's not even about the production - if he was still bringing that same intensity, that unhinged, manic quality, it would be fine, but whatever vocal training he got between this and the re-recording just de-fangs this song.
This is a classic.
Cannot agree with you more! Word for word my exact thoughts.
The vocal lines are better in the redo.
Saw this live before they changed it and it was one of the most intense experiences I have ever had. My guess is he changed because it can’t be good on the vocal cords.
this track is the fucking epitome of raw mathy post hardcore.
I remember these early demos on pure volume when they were still a local garage band. I was always happy to see they made it
This used to be my morning alarm dat DER NEE NER NER, DER NEE NER NER, DER NEE NER NER, DER NEE NER NER NER used to wake a nigga right up Pumped as fuck. Come back to us Fall Of Troy. Chon has taken my ear but you will always have my heart
mine too ROFL
Yajirobe SenzuSlinger good thing they are back together again!
***** yes, but the question is for how long this time!!? go see them NOW while they are touring, you may not get the chance to see this thunderous Trio ever again!
+randomhero andy they'll be touring again next year too! this last tour was awesome
This version will always be the most exhillarating one ever
I agree 100%. Doppelganger was their best album, but Manipulator was a close second.
sooo close
BEST AIR GUITAR SONG EVER
I use to shower to this song!!! lol had a boombox in my bathroom
2018 still bumpin
i like the raw version, so much more umpf
I randomly crave this song when I need to get some angst out, this version is where it’s at! Part V too 🥰
Yo 2020 and this raw limewire leaked ass version is still the best. Seriously my favorite track by TFoT
3:17 could only come from Erak’s mind, genius measures
This song goes hard in the paint dawg
GOD DAMN. this is the shit i love. wish they were still around, playing the good shit.
Obsessed
Quality is better in Phantom on the Horizon, but the rawness in this makes this one special :o
Such a powerful intro riff.
Yessir
best song ever
This is just amazing
Fuck man...19 all over again.
No joke
BANG BANG BANG
ARE YOU SOLD
❣️
The definitive version!
This is the god damn fucking JAM
Best quality
This is sick
i love how raw the GS versions is. i cant stand the other version
If there's any reason why every Fall of Troy fan should get the Ghostship demos even if they've already got Phantom.. it's this fucking song, it's legendary.
at the very LEAST, this is the ultimate version of IV
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Im glsd im not a loner anymore. I actually ebjoy the phanto more then this one. and to hear this song sound like this makes me wonder, what was i listening to before.
in all actuality, Thomas yells and does clean vocals while Tim does the actual screams
@Nolan5k Thomas did clean vocals and screaming, and bassist did some screaming
best part starts at 2:40
@Nolan5k Not all of them, but he did do backing vocals
So fucking good.
Seen this guys twice and they were mind blowing...but they never played any of the ghost ship demos :( but seriously, they were fucking amazing
+Leslie Adase on their previous tour (doppleganger 10 year anniversary) they were playing part IV. also, before their hiatus/breakup they played all of the ghostship songs on a special tour.
+Leslie Adase We got lucky and they played it...too badass.
fk yes
hey you should all give thomas erak your criticisms directly, i bet he'd be very interested to listen to what you have to say.
This.
we all have our opinions :]
@XiDraxxiX everything is better on ghostship demos. I hear some of the changes and addition to POTH and I just ask.. Why? Why put a mustache on the Mona Lisa? Or paint the nose of a picasso in the right place? It was right the first time.
Agreed 💯
@TFOT4evr Wasn't it the bassist who did the screams?
Not always Tim's screams are my favorite tho
Reaching.for.the.gun
AREYOUSOLD?!
it's not your fault!
you were probably wondering how it could possibly be better.
raw dog
DID YOU FORGET IM YOUR FRIEND!?
Tim gave my bf a tattoo with a needle and a pen at a show once. It was his initials, lol
The whole 'rawness' thing is becoming such a cliche in this genre of music.
If a band takes an already great song and wants to polish it up a bit, you can't really blame them.
Lahey's Liquor they play this song live the way they play it on the phantom on the horizon album. they probably decided to record it how they play it
not sure i agree with you on that one.
@andipoetic Why would you speak of such a place here?
It makes me sad that Tom wanted to put out music that appealed to older audiences and stop making agressive music. But, what are you gonna do?
I could not agree with you more. This song could still be just as thrashing with the production value they have today, but they sterilized it in the re-release. Completely disappointing
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@XiDraxxiX Way fuckin better..
TFOT were so much better when they put out stuff like this. It was exciting, interesting and raw. Their later stuff was so bloated, too much guitar-wanking and the lyrics were a bit sucky
The album version is sooooo terrible compared to this.
totally agree
Agreed!!
Shit happens, they know its online though so probly still satisfied
Everything after The Fall Of Troy sucked. :)
Phantom failed where all of their newer albums failed. Overproduced and not raw enough. Their first album was by FAR their best. Even doppelganger was too produced. The older versions of the remade songs were all better... including demo versions
intro fucking SHREDZZZZZ
to load and persuade you....TO STAYYYYYYYYY
BANG BANG BANG BANG