As a beginner that doesn’t really have a FH I can trust I love this disc for shots I need to finish right . Like you said it doesn’t burn into the ground .
MVP plastic quick tips Proton-OS Neutron -Neutral Electron-US Fission -Stable with better wind resistance and go Vroom. Prysim - OS Cosmic xx - slightly more OS than that plastic Eclipse - essentially proton? Plasma- Sight US
Can you detail what you mean by “imitation” forehand? I’m currently working on my touch forehand game and I’ve been working with a lot more understable discs lately and falling in love with the lines I’ve been able to carve but I can’t say that I’d call any of them an imitation.
@@hookinupwithdoug4824 The paradox basically flies like a forehand for me. I throw it on a hyzer and it flips all the way over and starts heading right (RHBH throw). It doesn't even try to fight back to finish left so it is pretty similar result to a stable FH shot for me.
My favourite way to throw the paradox is extreme hyzer forehand that flips up and then travels right. It's actually insane for scramble shots on the right side of the fairway. No other disc that i've tried does this.
Another person with a garbage forehand here, and this is in my bag for utility. Sometimes you need a Deflector for odd shots, and sometimes you need a Paradox!
BAG BAG BAG !!! Buttery turnovers all day w/o burning like the Pearl. Also when theres a tailwind and your slightly understable discs wont turn, the Paradox still does - Paradox got your back!
Really enjoying your videos! I throw only MVP and I bag a paradox. Some of your shots your calling hizer are releasing flat. I get the best results with this disc when it's thrown bh at about 4oclock line. It will flip up flat and fly dead straight.
As somebody who can't throw FH because of shoulder issues, discs like this, the Mirage, the Sol/Meteor, etc are a staple in my bag. I'll give this one a shot too most likely. Thanks!
LOVE your editing at 3:05. I think one of the hardest things for developing disc golfers is picking an aiming point and letting the disc do the work, rather than throwing straight at the basket.
@@MrGriffsAdventures: That's good to hear. I think if the game is going to ever get to the next level (whether that's good or even desirable is another topic), its image could use some help from within.
One of my favorite discs as a beginner, didn't even know what flight numbers were or how they affected the shot but it flew straight and predictable when nothing else would. Have three still while they were on sale.
I have one. It is a good get out of trouble woods scramble disc. Where you have to throw hyzer but need the disc to go straight after you get out of the woods. As far as a turnover disc, I just couldn't get over the fact I'm throwing a steep hyzer to throw a turnover. I'd end up releasing flat and then it's gone. I've learned I like a disc that has a smidge of helping turn for those anny shots. I go between a Mind Bender and a beat Emac Truth, sometimes a Tursas if there is a tailwind.
I got this disc in a watermelon dye at a mvp circuit challenge. I never bagged it until yesterday and had the worst day with it. This video helped understand its place.
And now, thanks to a Bodanza mystery box, it's mine! It's going to take a minute to get used to, but it does things none of my other discs do, so it's probably getting a bag spot. I've thrown some shots that have surprised myself, because it doesn't burn, and my backhand has a lot more power than my forehand.
As someone that doesn't have a forehand I love my Paradox for shots that should be a forehand. It is going to turn, but not burn. It is touchy, but so useful.
I agree uplink is more versatile and will see more use on the course. If you don't have ceiling restriction, it is fun to throw some really high shots with the paradox because all that turn will get it nose-down so it doesn't stall out. Simon lines without Simon power.
I just got a champ wombat3 from Innova 5/6/-1/0 I believe and it has a very similar flight. Hyzer flip to right finish. I might just be throwing it too hard but yeah. What's nice tho is you tend to not get that huge right skip like you would if you threw it forehand which I like. Kinda sits where it lands vs skipping 20 ft away from the basket.
I love the wombat for savior shots out of the sh** where you end up standing patent pending and forcing a big Annie ride. But I fell in love with the soft zone personally for forehand shots where I want a straight line followed by a slight fade to the right and next to zero ground play.
Hey Anthony, love your videos and hope to get to play with you one of these days here in Austin. Question: I've seen you talk about rolling the wrist over in a couple videos, and this is a problem I have. What mental cue do you use to make sure you don't do that? Or what's your best advice for maintaining a flat follow through without rolling over? Thanks and keep up the great work!
I personally love this disc I started disc golf about 6 months ago and the hardest thing for me to do at this point is get those good anhyzer shots. With this disc I never need to worry about it.
Try to hyzerflip it, throw it on baby hyzer or flat and you’ll get a ton more distance and the paradox will finish right. Throwing it on anni just turns it into a roller.
I’m 905 rated, LHBH primarily. I love the paradox, my forehand off the tee sucks so it is perfect for me. And when I scramble I primarily use a forehand and this thing is so buttery for that.
I bag a paradox and it is money for two different shots: a high and slow forceover upshot and believe it or not, putting. with the shallow underside and smooth plastic, it's like the perfect feel for sliding out of your hand exactly where you're intending it to go and the understability keeps it on a straighter line to the basket during a putt so I don't have to aim high right until about 35 feet
I need to put in more field work with mine, as I am almost always surprised how much hyzer the thing takes to flip up but not over 😮 But I’m starting to get a handle on how to throw it dead straight with a forehand hyzer flip, which is HANDY! I also use it for soft RHFH annies that you need to go left and finish left around some junk … often more trusty than a RHBH with an overstable mid, especially if you need to try to reach way around said junk. I think it’s a super useful disc for a variety of weird situations!
I like it for those restricted shots where you have limited arm swing, or for patent pending throws. I am really loving the uplink for easy hyzer flips, they have a little fight in them and are much easier to control.
I find myself using it for that as well, and forehands where you have to lean out right but somehow make it back way left. I don't know how you could throw a shot like that without a disc like this. Unless you throw a roller...
Half of my bag is Axiom/Neutron now. Insanity, Virus, Envy, Vanish and now the Paradox. Something about the plastic and the mold that makes it so easy to throw. Insanity might be the most beginner friendly fairway driver ever made tbh.
I have been told the paradox in a heavier weight helps with the disc having to much flip and turn over. I just got 2 in mid 160 and one at 174. My buddy has three one at 175.
Love the Paradox, though I have one of the Watermelon's which is the only Proton run. They aren't as crazy flippy as the neutron. Wish they would do those as a stock run.
I have one, but I don't bag it because it is so flippy. I do take it out for one disc rounds sometimes to help me work on shot shaping sometimes. I also keep it in my car to let new players use it, so they have something that flies straight for them
Cant deny the results, it doesnt fit Anthonys throwing style cause his game has more power, but the disc still has incredible merit. I bag one as a utility disc, it has a enormous amount of glide, when youre in a patent pending with little to no room to swing your arm it performs so well perfect for those shots that are basically just arm and wrist snap. I also use the hex but the paradox makes a anny so easy.
The paradox is great but i either I have to slow down my throw or point the rim down and throw Xtreme hyzer. The uplink is another good understable mid-range.
For discs like this also check out the Kastaplast Svea in a firmer plastic, tons of glide and way more understable than the numbers indicate if you get some speed behind it. A little less touchy to find a good hyzer flip angle for me than the Paradox or even the Uplink.
I don't think a Fuse in OPTO can compare to the flippines. And a Fuse in RETRO would turn into a roller. I don't think the Fuse is the best disc to compare it to IMHO. Great content. Keep it coming
@@BodanzaDiscGolf If you are looking for flippy in the Trilogy line in a mid range try a Bounty then a Tursas. I know that's not what your video was about but those are great discs in Lucid and VIP. Exact same plastic as OPTO.
Give it away to a young Kid or brand new player. I Bought it out of curiosity, I hit an ace with it on the first day with a fan grip on an anny only hole, but It’s Way too understable for me, so I gave it to a girlfriend of mine with Two signatures, neither of which were mine for the ace I made that day (never wrote my name on it) I did write Ace #30 on it though , lol. New players might like it at first. but definitely not for me. Btw - I Love Axiom / Streamline /MVP My Top Picks for 2023 - Envy, Drift, Excite, Deflector,
join a local league, you get to experience tournament like scenario weekly and help with the nervs of the first tournament, if ther is no league just go for the tournament, play rec and enjoy
Lower divisions of tourneys aren't super serious, and most people will be friendly and chill and show you the ropes. Not sure where you're at but tourney season is coming to an end in most places. 350 ft of distance is impressive for 3 months of playing. Work on accuracy and putting and you'll be shredding tourneys for sure.
Yep, I started playing in a weekly league about three months in and when I played my first tournament four months later, it was pretty much what I’d gotten used to in the weekly (plus a player pack 👊🏽). Also, if you want to play tournaments (or leagues), read the rules … knowing what’s OK and what’s not can save you strokes! P.S. If you’re throwing 350 after 2-3 months, you better get in now, or everyone’s going to think you’re a sandbagger! On most tournament signup pages, there’s usually a link to the PDGA guidelines for which division people should play in based on how far they throw and how well they typically putt.
It’s fun. Just do an ma3 tournament and if you do we’ll play ma2 for awhile. If you can throw 350 consistently then you could probably play in ma2 but I wouldn’t expect to win for awhile because tournament play is a whole new beast.
One thing i don't like to blame disc super flippy when throwing "lot of hyzer" when you can use slowmotion and stop frames to see your disc is totally flat or even slight anhyzer.. I mean that understability doesn't come up to play at first 1ft after release from hand. 2nd tee you threw 3 different shots with 3 different result *facepalm*
I hate this disc. I've tried to bag it for a year straight. Nothing i do can make it a good anny disc, and it's just not great for rollers for me either.
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Try out an Uplink from MVP. Still flippy, but more controllable. I think it'd be perfect for what you're looking for.
I second the uplink video. Love that disc.
I just bought mine last week. Loving that disc. Throw on heizer, flips to right, then fades right next to the basket
Uplink is slightly more controllable than the paradox, but the paradox can be a great get out of jail disc..
Please follow up with Uplink!
Yesssss uplink is the sweet spot
Being a backhand only player, I love this disk as it has solved so many problems for me.
The more I throw MVP, the more I like it
Best 6.5 speeds and below. Crave, Resistor, Reactor, Envy, etc.
Same!
Same
Had a servo and a hex and jumped head first into a gyropalooza box, no ragrets
I'm just riding that Simon train baby
Just got my 2 first run Bodanza Pures in the mail today, love em!
As a beginner that doesn’t really have a FH I can trust I love this disc for shots I need to finish right . Like you said it doesn’t burn into the ground .
MVP plastic quick tips
Proton-OS
Neutron -Neutral
Electron-US
Fission -Stable with better wind resistance and go Vroom.
Prysim - OS
Cosmic xx - slightly more OS than that plastic
Eclipse - essentially proton?
Plasma- Sight US
The paradox was my imitation forehand for like a full year before I fully developed a proper forehand. Love your editing! Keep up the good work
Ha thats basically what I use it for.
Can you detail what you mean by “imitation” forehand? I’m currently working on my touch forehand game and I’ve been working with a lot more understable discs lately and falling in love with the lines I’ve been able to carve but I can’t say that I’d call any of them an imitation.
@@hookinupwithdoug4824 The paradox basically flies like a forehand for me. I throw it on a hyzer and it flips all the way over and starts heading right (RHBH throw). It doesn't even try to fight back to finish left so it is pretty similar result to a stable FH shot for me.
My favourite way to throw the paradox is extreme hyzer forehand that flips up and then travels right. It's actually insane for scramble shots on the right side of the fairway. No other disc that i've tried does this.
Another person with a garbage forehand here, and this is in my bag for utility. Sometimes you need a Deflector for odd shots, and sometimes you need a Paradox!
You're right! bought this for my beginer wife last year. she's been really loving it.
BAG BAG BAG !!! Buttery turnovers all day w/o burning like the Pearl. Also when theres a tailwind and your slightly understable discs wont turn, the Paradox still does - Paradox got your back!
Bro! You're throwing the gyro and I can dig it. Can you please do the buzz slayer video for me? Reactor vs buzzz. And get an eclipse one!
Really enjoying your videos! I throw only MVP and I bag a paradox. Some of your shots your calling hizer are releasing flat. I get the best results with this disc when it's thrown bh at about 4oclock line. It will flip up flat and fly dead straight.
Love the show! Considering traveling to europe and test the tracks over here ?
I only have the Ion putter. Just bought the gyropalooza box and I'm excited to try a full lineup of Gryo discs
You won’t be disappointed. I got my Gyropalooza box today and it was absolute gas. Some crazy color combo discs in mine.
Another great looking dye 🙂
As somebody who can't throw FH because of shoulder issues, discs like this, the Mirage, the Sol/Meteor, etc are a staple in my bag. I'll give this one a shot too most likely. Thanks!
That is my buddy's course that he set up at his church. That is so awesome.
I was wondering how the church folk like the 420 rounds on their grounds? 👀🙏🏽
I bag paradox for some fun lines. 👌🏼
LOVE your editing at 3:05. I think one of the hardest things for developing disc golfers is picking an aiming point and letting the disc do the work, rather than throwing straight at the basket.
love these videos, picked up a wild honey and a halo roc today. super excited to shank them tomorrow!
I love the way you do your disc reviews. = )
I run the paradox for shorter dog leg shots🔥🔥
Thx for doing this on our course. I am one of the people that built the course.
Looks like a fun course! I’m curious if people act any differently (imbibing/partaking) playing at a church than they might anywhere else? 🥏⛓ 🙏🏽
@@b-radg916 From what we have seen, Yes. A few people drink but are kind enough to throw the cans away in the trash cans on the course.
@@MrGriffsAdventures: That's good to hear. I think if the game is going to ever get to the next level (whether that's good or even desirable is another topic), its image could use some help from within.
@@b-radg916 I agree. We have been really lucky with the course. We never see trash on it.
@@MrGriffsAdventures: Fantastic! Question: Is the course closed during church, or are the grounds big enough that one doesn’t affect the other?
One of my favorite discs as a beginner, didn't even know what flight numbers were or how they affected the shot but it flew straight and predictable when nothing else would. Have three still while they were on sale.
I have one. It is a good get out of trouble woods scramble disc. Where you have to throw hyzer but need the disc to go straight after you get out of the woods. As far as a turnover disc, I just couldn't get over the fact I'm throwing a steep hyzer to throw a turnover. I'd end up releasing flat and then it's gone. I've learned I like a disc that has a smidge of helping turn for those anny shots. I go between a Mind Bender and a beat Emac Truth, sometimes a Tursas if there is a tailwind.
I got this disc in a watermelon dye at a mvp circuit challenge.
I never bagged it until yesterday and had the worst day with it. This video helped understand its place.
And now, thanks to a Bodanza mystery box, it's mine!
It's going to take a minute to get used to, but it does things none of my other discs do, so it's probably getting a bag spot. I've thrown some shots that have surprised myself, because it doesn't burn, and my backhand has a lot more power than my forehand.
As someone that doesn't have a forehand I love my Paradox for shots that should be a forehand. It is going to turn, but not burn. It is touchy, but so useful.
I agree uplink is more versatile and will see more use on the course.
If you don't have ceiling restriction, it is fun to throw some really high shots with the paradox because all that turn will get it nose-down so it doesn't stall out. Simon lines without Simon power.
Would love to see one of these on the rhythm! Loving this series man.
I love the paradox for dead straight shots and quick glidey turnovers. Threw it full S line 375' on a big par 5 in upstate ny.
I just got a champ wombat3 from Innova 5/6/-1/0 I believe and it has a very similar flight. Hyzer flip to right finish. I might just be throwing it too hard but yeah. What's nice tho is you tend to not get that huge right skip like you would if you threw it forehand which I like. Kinda sits where it lands vs skipping 20 ft away from the basket.
I love the wombat for savior shots out of the sh** where you end up standing patent pending and forcing a big Annie ride. But I fell in love with the soft zone personally for forehand shots where I want a straight line followed by a slight fade to the right and next to zero ground play.
I had a 168 gram star wombat3 and it was super weird, lots of turn but still hooked up at the end. In the end wasn’t a big fan.
Love your editing style! Well done 👏
Hey Anthony, love your videos and hope to get to play with you one of these days here in Austin.
Question: I've seen you talk about rolling the wrist over in a couple videos, and this is a problem I have. What mental cue do you use to make sure you don't do that? Or what's your best advice for maintaining a flat follow through without rolling over?
Thanks and keep up the great work!
I can't believe how many words you can say with one breath of air 😂
Love the vids dude! Living the life!
I personally love this disc I started disc golf about 6 months ago and the hardest thing for me to do at this point is get those good anhyzer shots. With this disc I never need to worry about it.
Try to hyzerflip it, throw it on baby hyzer or flat and you’ll get a ton more distance and the paradox will finish right. Throwing it on anni just turns it into a roller.
I’m 905 rated, LHBH primarily. I love the paradox, my forehand off the tee sucks so it is perfect for me. And when I scramble I primarily use a forehand and this thing is so buttery for that.
Its a utility disc for me. Great for Patent pending shots stuck behind some trees and a narrow fairway
Try SVEA SOFT, that one i would say is even flippyer, yeh, thats a word. Love your vids man, keep em commi'n!
I bag a paradox and it is money for two different shots: a high and slow forceover upshot and believe it or not, putting. with the shallow underside and smooth plastic, it's like the perfect feel for sliding out of your hand exactly where you're intending it to go and the understability keeps it on a straighter line to the basket during a putt so I don't have to aim high right until about 35 feet
As a beginner bagged it😅have the special edition which also looks awesome. Seems to get my workhorse for "straight" curves😅
I need to put in more field work with mine, as I am almost always surprised how much hyzer the thing takes to flip up but not over 😮 But I’m starting to get a handle on how to throw it dead straight with a forehand hyzer flip, which is HANDY! I also use it for soft RHFH annies that you need to go left and finish left around some junk … often more trusty than a RHBH with an overstable mid, especially if you need to try to reach way around said junk. I think it’s a super useful disc for a variety of weird situations!
I like it for those restricted shots where you have limited arm swing, or for patent pending throws. I am really loving the uplink for easy hyzer flips, they have a little fight in them and are much easier to control.
I find myself using it for that as well, and forehands where you have to lean out right but somehow make it back way left. I don't know how you could throw a shot like that without a disc like this. Unless you throw a roller...
I'd love to see you review some Legacy discs if you can get a hold of them. Bandit and Gauge
Half of my bag is Axiom/Neutron now. Insanity, Virus, Envy, Vanish and now the Paradox. Something about the plastic and the mold that makes it so easy to throw. Insanity might be the most beginner friendly fairway driver ever made tbh.
So I liked a few videos and subscribed.... Can we see you doing the MVP Uplink & Streamline Ascend?
So hoping I get one of these in my Gyro box. I have a SOL right now which is close to it
U have to have the guaranteed turn in the bag for the low 200 water on left throw.
I have been told the paradox in a heavier weight helps with the disc having to much flip and turn over. I just got 2 in mid 160 and one at 174. My buddy has three one at 175.
Love the Paradox, though I have one of the Watermelon's which is the only Proton run. They aren't as crazy flippy as the neutron. Wish they would do those as a stock run.
I love my paradox, I use it a lot more than I ever thought I would lol
Latitude 64 Pearl.
What mic set up are you using?
Been playing forever, I bag two, great disc.
I have one, but I don't bag it because it is so flippy. I do take it out for one disc rounds sometimes to help me work on shot shaping sometimes. I also keep it in my car to let new players use it, so they have something that flies straight for them
8.5K views! You’ve got the audience! You will succeed!
Cant deny the results, it doesnt fit Anthonys throwing style cause his game has more power, but the disc still has incredible merit. I bag one as a utility disc, it has a enormous amount of glide, when youre in a patent pending with little to no room to swing your arm it performs so well perfect for those shots that are basically just arm and wrist snap. I also use the hex but the paradox makes a anny so easy.
Okay, I can actually help here. Try the uplink (maybe compare the soft uplink as well for fun) it's a way less extreme US mid from mvp
Just got the gyropalooza box and the virus is a super fun flippy 9 speed
Get an Uplink! Slightly more stable/usable disc that feels the same with very similar flight.
The paradox is great but i either I have to slow down my throw or point the rim down and throw Xtreme hyzer. The uplink is another good understable mid-range.
Will he play Tom Brown?
I prefer the uplink to the paradox. It’s got a bit of fade (.5) to it at the end but still quite US..
What about that wolf that you threw in one of those videos where Siri picked your disc?
Yours and my definitions of “a lot of hyzer are entirely different” 😂
It’s def more relative to how I normally throw!! Haha
I love the Paradox!
Nothing can replace the fuse
Westside Tursas ftw!
Mvp Uplink and Infinite Kin Tiki!!
I'll never take this out of my bag. It's a great utility/get out of jail disc.
For discs like this also check out the Kastaplast Svea in a firmer plastic, tons of glide and way more understable than the numbers indicate if you get some speed behind it. A little less touchy to find a good hyzer flip angle for me than the Paradox or even the Uplink.
The paradox is an easy RHBH roller for me.
Oddly enough - that disc makes a sneaky good putter being so understable
it's all I putt with, it really extends your jump putt range too
Try the divergent discs leviathan
Thumbnail photoshoot 😂
I love my Paradox
I own one of these. It's probably a skill issue but it's unthrowable for me. I just use a meteor instead
Great video! I throw the innova road runner for these sort of turn shots. Plus can get more distance if needed. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I built my game around a Vibram Ibex. He's been retired cuz he's vegetation green.
I don't think a Fuse in OPTO can compare to the flippines. And a Fuse in RETRO would turn into a roller. I don't think the Fuse is the best disc to compare it to IMHO. Great content. Keep it coming
totally agree, it's just the flippiest thing I had prior to the Paradox!!! lol
@@BodanzaDiscGolf If you are looking for flippy in the Trilogy line in a mid range try a Bounty then a Tursas. I know that's not what your video was about but those are great discs in Lucid and VIP. Exact same plastic as OPTO.
@@mattmac6546 for sure!!
Give it away to a young Kid or brand new player. I Bought it out of curiosity, I hit an ace with it on the first day with a fan grip on an anny only hole, but It’s Way too understable for me, so I gave it to a girlfriend of mine with Two signatures, neither of which were mine for the ace I made that day (never wrote my name on it) I did write Ace #30 on it though , lol. New players might like it at first. but definitely not for me. Btw - I Love Axiom / Streamline /MVP
My Top Picks for 2023 - Envy, Drift, Excite, Deflector,
Been practicing for about 2-3 months so far, I throw close to 350 consistently.Not sure when to go to a tournament little nervous any pointers
join a local league, you get to experience tournament like scenario weekly and help with the nervs of the first tournament, if ther is no league just go for the tournament, play rec and enjoy
Lower divisions of tourneys aren't super serious, and most people will be friendly and chill and show you the ropes. Not sure where you're at but tourney season is coming to an end in most places.
350 ft of distance is impressive for 3 months of playing. Work on accuracy and putting and you'll be shredding tourneys for sure.
Yep, I started playing in a weekly league about three months in and when I played my first tournament four months later, it was pretty much what I’d gotten used to in the weekly (plus a player pack 👊🏽). Also, if you want to play tournaments (or leagues), read the rules … knowing what’s OK and what’s not can save you strokes!
P.S. If you’re throwing 350 after 2-3 months, you better get in now, or everyone’s going to think you’re a sandbagger! On most tournament signup pages, there’s usually a link to the PDGA guidelines for which division people should play in based on how far they throw and how well they typically putt.
It’s fun. Just do an ma3 tournament and if you do we’ll play ma2 for awhile. If you can throw 350 consistently then you could probably play in ma2 but I wouldn’t expect to win for awhile because tournament play is a whole new beast.
@@WillEnj0y ty I’ve still only done league a few months might try tournaments next year
I tried a Paradox but switched to a uplink. Paradox was just too touchy.
Gyro is the way to go
This is my city!!!
One thing i don't like to blame disc super flippy when throwing "lot of hyzer" when you can use slowmotion and stop frames to see your disc is totally flat or even slight anhyzer.. I mean that understability doesn't come up to play at first 1ft after release from hand.
2nd tee you threw 3 different shots with 3 different result *facepalm*
3:41 was more of a flat shot not really hyzer
I hate this disc. I've tried to bag it for a year straight. Nothing i do can make it a good anny disc, and it's just not great for rollers for me either.
It definitely can if u can’t throw forehand
Gyro gang unite
Westside tursas...
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But is it flippy? 😂
#gyroislyphe
Easy one on this disc. Trash it. I'm a big MVP thrower but that disc is just way too understable.