The Myth Of The Perfect Predator

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  • Опубликовано: 22 сен 2024
  • What is the perfect predator? Nature was filled with seemingly unstoppable killing machines like Tyrannosaurus, Otodus megalodon, and Deinosuchus, but do their physical size and strength make them better predators that animals like ferrets, fleas, or eels? This video analyzes the cultural idea of what makes a "predator" interesting to humans and explains the ecological concept of relative perfection, using prehistoric and modern animals as examples. Paleoecology is a complex scientific field, studying the relationships of organisms like dinosaurs in a past far removed from our present. Our limited understanding of ecological science can lead us to make mistakes about the importance that certain species can have, including our favorite charismatic carnivores.
    00:00: Creating The Perfect Predator
    00:26: The Relative Perfection Equation
    01:14: What Makes A Good Predator?
    01:59: Overpowered VS Perfect
    02:42: Natural History's Greatest Hits
    03:23: Specialization vs Generalization
    04:08: Awesomebro Content Done Right
    Thumbnail art by evoincarnate, Arturo Garcia, and Connor Ashbridge. Music courtesy of Paleowolf.
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Комментарии • 302

  • @TheVividen
    @TheVividen  2 дня назад +83

    What are some of your more "awesomebro" takes you're willing to defend with your life?

    • @josewayneoninguemd7740
      @josewayneoninguemd7740 2 дня назад +7

      Aust Colossus and hector's ichtyosaur were Older ichtyotitan individuals

    • @Rhinoxsaurus
      @Rhinoxsaurus 2 дня назад +18

      @@TheVividen dinosaurs could do the reptile equivalent of roar alongside bellowing

    • @raulvidal2343
      @raulvidal2343 2 дня назад +10

      Since every fossilized adult animal is statistically more likely close to the average size of their species, and the largest members of a species can be way larger than the average, we will probably never find the true giants of the Mesozoic, and maybe when comparing large extinct marine predators like Ichtyotitan or Perucetus to a blue whale, we should consider the average size of the latter instead of the largest individuals.

    • @Dr.Ian-Plect
      @Dr.Ian-Plect 2 дня назад +5

      @@raulvidal2343 Quite, but it still doesn't allow you to conclude the extinct taxa were larger.

    • @Dysfunctional_Reprint
      @Dysfunctional_Reprint 2 дня назад +1

      @TheVividen okay follow me on this one.
      Orcas are the single most terrifying animal to ever live.
      Extremely intelligent
      Bad ass color scheme
      Coordinated as hell
      Sounds creepy
      Most of all though, they are extremely emotional and can be very charismatic but are also capable of being absolute psychotic killing machines at the drop of a hat.
      They are basically schizophrenic goth hunter killer submarines.

  • @oliyes406
    @oliyes406 2 дня назад +247

    “The perfect predator doesn’t exist”
    Diddy: 🤫

    • @soybasedjeremy3653
      @soybasedjeremy3653 2 дня назад +44

      Epsteinasaurus

    • @markd.s.8625
      @markd.s.8625 2 дня назад +19

      ​@@soybasedjeremy3653 and its known friend the trumpasaur

    • @andyf3269
      @andyf3269 2 дня назад +19

      @@markd.s.8625Obama and Hillary was good friends with diddy. Even went to parties 😬

    • @markd.s.8625
      @markd.s.8625 2 дня назад +7

      @@andyf3269 ok? im not american

    • @soybasedjeremy3653
      @soybasedjeremy3653 2 дня назад

      @@markd.s.8625 You do know Trump wasn't on the island right? Epstein's victims even said they never saw him there, but saw a lot of others. Only Trump was mentioned by Epstein and it was in relation to Trump's casino in Atlantic City. Trump has claimed for decades he kicked Epstein off his property at Mar A Lago and worked with the FBI in 2002. Bill Clinton was however seen on the Island, same with Stephen Hawking.

  • @singingcrow439
    @singingcrow439 2 дня назад +144

    Even in an environment that suits them, prey isn't just a static resource that waits to be used. They're going to be evolving alongside the predator.
    Rattlesnakes use infrared to hunt warm blood rodents. Ground squirrels can pump blood into their fuzzy but skinny tails to throw off their aim.
    Big cats use camouflage and speed to ambush prey. Deer and antelope have heightened smell and hearing and group behavior to detect them and can not only rival the cats in speed but can easily outlast them in a marathon.
    Trex can bite a car in half and is agile for a theropod. Triceratops was just agile and had two big reasons on its face for rex to not try and bite it.
    Prey isn't just going to let itself get hunted. They are constantly evolving to make predators earn their lunch, and it is probably the biggest reason why even if a perfect predator existed, it wouldn't be perfect for long.
    Ps. Just realized that this isn't always the case, especially if invasive species are involved. There can be changes that some animals can't adapt to fast enough if at all. House cats are a natural example of this. They can and have wiped out multiple species of birds and other small animals, but I suppose that doesn't change my final statement.
    If a predator is introduced to a "perfect" environment where prey aren't naturally used to them, things would eventually sort out as some prey adapt and others dissappear. The environment will change until the predator isn't dominating everything. One way or another, a "perfect" predator doesn't stay perfect.

    • @Hecuba107
      @Hecuba107 2 дня назад +2

      What about the komodo dragon?

    • @singingcrow439
      @singingcrow439 2 дня назад +1

      @Hecuba107 they hunt by ambushing their prey and using anti-coagolant vemon to bleed them out. They can take down even fully grown water buffalo this way, but it's not perfect.
      Like big cats, an ambush predator needs their prey to get into range, and komodos aren't particularly fast, so they can be avoided if spotted by swifter prey like deer. Not to mention, for buffalo, the lizard is still hunting something 6 times its size with horns. Not only does that make it dangerous, but it also means it might take weeks for a buffalo to finally drop from the wound, assuming it was lethal to begin with.
      They are still dangerous animals and top order carnivores, but they aren't without counterplay.

    • @ExtremeMadnessX
      @ExtremeMadnessX 2 дня назад +9

      Also, sauropods. Too many times, they were depicted as helpless food for predators.

    • @noimsquidward7327
      @noimsquidward7327 День назад +5

      ​@@ExtremeMadnessXLol true, once they were fully grown, they probably lived life back then like how fully grown elephant's lived in the savannah right now, not giving a sh*t because they were too big to be hunted. Sure, there were dinosaurs who specialized in hunting them like the carcharodontosauridaes but even then they probably targeting smaller younger individuals, rarely attacking full grown adults.

    • @AncientWildTV
      @AncientWildTV День назад +1

      How do you think this evolutionary arms race influences the stability of ecosystems over time?

  • @Reyma777
    @Reyma777 2 дня назад +149

    I think the idea of perfect predators comes from people treating animals[especially dinosaurs] like Kaiju.

    • @joseluiscalixto5651
      @joseluiscalixto5651 2 дня назад +19

      It could also be that some people do not differentiate between training medium (fiction or fantasy) and the ecological functions that each animal has.

    • @joshuastrittmatter4188
      @joshuastrittmatter4188 2 дня назад +14

      Jurassic Fight Club and Monsters Resurrected *REALLY* didn’t help matters much either.

    • @orochifuror7148
      @orochifuror7148 День назад

      or Xenomorphs. A thing that has all the tools to survive against any environment or creature it comes across. A parasite that doesn't need a host, a thing that will consume everything else and "win" at survival.

  • @kateglew580
    @kateglew580 2 дня назад +84

    I love how you say eagles are "probably" better at flying than crocodiles. You can never be sure with nature lol

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  2 дня назад +33

      Gotta watch out for the winged crocodilians!

    • @kateglew580
      @kateglew580 2 дня назад +19

      @@TheVividen The perfect predator doesn't exi-
      *winged deinosuchus has entered the chat*

    • @killdozer7792
      @killdozer7792 2 дня назад +10

      I dunno, have you SEEN a crocodile jump? It may as well be flying.
      OK, maybe not, but it's still pretty awesome to see. X3

    • @walter1383
      @walter1383 День назад +2

      @@TheVividen Surprise Impossible Creatures nostalgia.

  • @JorgePerez-yg4so
    @JorgePerez-yg4so 2 дня назад +71

    The animal closest to being a perfect predator or killer would be the dragonfly with a 96-97% successful kill rate but those are tiny guys

    • @furioussherman7265
      @furioussherman7265 2 дня назад +4

      That's exactly what I'm thinking.

    • @aeyelashbug6311
      @aeyelashbug6311 День назад +2

      Also their small size makes them commonly predated upon by many other animals, notably spiders

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 День назад +6

      Robber flies are runner ups for that title, some of them even hunt dragonflies

    • @mamotalemankoe3775
      @mamotalemankoe3775 День назад +2

      The strongest biome dominator is the Orca by a mile and a half though. Basically the entire ocean is their playground.

  • @quandaledingle-ju7ov
    @quandaledingle-ju7ov 2 дня назад +46

    I hate how many people seem to have a view that a successful predator has to be huge with a deadly set of weapons like huge claws and fangs when in actuality this is not the case . There are many small successful predators like small cats, foxes , cyotes and mustelids. The same was probably true for extinct animals like the non avian dinosaurs.

    • @DakotaofRaptors
      @DakotaofRaptors День назад

      Where's Gort?

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 День назад +4

      There's a reason why dromeosaurs are as diverse as they were

    • @matebakk5187
      @matebakk5187 День назад +2

      Honestly, if by success we mean rate of catching prey or how wide spread they are your four examples basically in another league compared to say wolves or bears... It would be strange IMO if this wasn't the usual affair in history.

  • @panzermuncher3099
    @panzermuncher3099 2 дня назад +21

    "there is no perfect predator"
    The dragonflies in question:

    • @badabing3391
      @badabing3391 День назад +3

      the humans*** in question

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 День назад +2

      ​​@@badabing3391Perfect my ass, we are even more vulnerable to damage than the average predator
      And that's just for those who even KNOW how to hunt

    • @badabing3391
      @badabing3391 День назад +2

      @@alejandroelluxray5298 we are only more vulnerable to damage when without our tools, but practically that never happens.

  • @1998topornik
    @1998topornik 2 дня назад +16

    With every ability comes advantages and disadvantages. Complicated brains require huge amount of energy to sustain, big size restrict your movement, flying requires huge sacrifices in body plan etc. "Perfect predator" is bound to have some very huge weaknesses.

  • @Sharktoz
    @Sharktoz 2 дня назад +13

    12 million % agree. Animals only evolve as much as they need to. Their bite force evolves only as strong as it takes to kill the prey in their environment. Their only as fast as it takes to catch their prey. Well said my friend.

  • @toothclaw6985
    @toothclaw6985 День назад +9

    Too many people treat their favorite predators as if they have no flaws (e.g. cats or orcas) or are invincible (megatheropods or Otodus megalodon), but evolution doesn't do Mary Sues. You hit the nail on the head when you said being overpowered in a scenario=/=being perfect in it.

  • @TheOverseerDebates
    @TheOverseerDebates 2 дня назад +23

    Perfectly worded! Although debates of who would win as well as going over new 'buffs' to certain predators is as interesting as it is entertaining, it does not equate to being the perfect predator in every ecosystem.

  • @aaleven4728
    @aaleven4728 2 дня назад +39

    man, stuff like jurassic fight club, r/nature is/was metal and even tierzoo have warped the nature (mostly predators) so much so it's great to see an actually informative video, specially with the end message

    • @pierre-samuelroux9364
      @pierre-samuelroux9364 2 дня назад +7

      Jfc was just unrealistic it was supposed learn stuff but instead it putted innacurate stuff just for sake of seeing animals figh5

    • @goldman77700
      @goldman77700 2 дня назад +11

      I used to like tierzoo and then he started saying stupid garbo like lions beating sauropods so I rolled out.

    • @pierre-samuelroux9364
      @pierre-samuelroux9364 2 дня назад

      @@goldman77700 the hell plus you like goldman?

    • @goldman77700
      @goldman77700 2 дня назад

      @@pierre-samuelroux9364 What are you even asking?

    • @shafqatishan437
      @shafqatishan437 2 дня назад +7

      ​@@goldman77700lions beating a sauropod was more of reasonable statement. They have been spilling false information ever since their early days and no one listened to me when I pointed out. Worst of all they got praise and pressure from PBS channels who make genuinely educational videos. As for the most inaccurate but famous channels, Bright Side and Science Insider etc hurt the most.

  • @JaredHight-g4e
    @JaredHight-g4e 2 дня назад +10

    Ok, hear me out, flying sharks. They still have to ram ventilate air, but a “great blue shark” could still be an ambush predator out of the water. It’s totally impractical but I think it’d be neat.

  • @PaleoGuy07
    @PaleoGuy07 2 дня назад +7

    finally someone who points it out, those were an animals, they are killable, t.rex was a apex predator but also look at prey it was big and armored. when predator is big prey is also big, but we also need to have small predator who can control population of smaller animals that could destroy ecosystem when not in check. big or small all predator are needed and this is my take.

  • @newbybits
    @newbybits 22 часа назад +3

    "The perfect predator doesn't exist"
    Humans: 👁👄👁

  • @Greenthero
    @Greenthero 2 дня назад +5

    This video reminds me of that person I got into an argument with on Roblox who thought Indominus could exist because of spec animals.

  • @alienstar2088
    @alienstar2088 2 дня назад +8

    I've never really been an awesomebro kinda of guy, I admire Dinosaurs because they are weird and fantastical animals, not movie monsters. That being said, I'm sure there are some traits and adaptations that some Dinosaur species may have had that may lean more into the awesomebro line of thinking, perhaps we may never know.

  • @luukzilla1519
    @luukzilla1519 2 дня назад +169

    Off topic question, am i the only one who is getting kinda bored of Megalodon?
    Edit: i feel like other Otodus members do not get enough attention

    • @denistyrant
      @denistyrant 2 дня назад +26

      Because other Otodus members are more even fragmentary than Megalodon itself (Or less studied) 💀💀💀

    • @migueljardim8177
      @migueljardim8177 2 дня назад +43

      Personally, I don’t see how anyone could be bored by a nearly 100-ton supersized whale-killing shark. But hey, that’s just me.

    • @edwardchampion8891
      @edwardchampion8891 2 дня назад +13

      I personal find velociraptors overated.

    • @Dysfunctional_Reprint
      @Dysfunctional_Reprint 2 дня назад +22

      A bit.
      Livytan and all the extinct whales are far more terrifying than big fish Boi.
      Sure Megajaws is scary but a pod of submarines with teeth the size of railroad spikes and is highly intelligent but most of all, you can hear them coming long before they get you, is a level beyond fear my body does not have the facilities to properly comprehend.

    • @bitcheslovecannons5073
      @bitcheslovecannons5073 2 дня назад +1

      Livytan is a far more interesting creature, in my opinion.

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 2 дня назад +3

    Indeed, we can like Apex predators, but we can’t overhyped them too much. Every Apex predator is designed to hunt different.

  • @extremempsilvamps5851
    @extremempsilvamps5851 День назад +2

    "there is no perfect predator"
    Humans with a AK-47:

  • @bkjeong4302
    @bkjeong4302 День назад +4

    T. rex specifically gets massively overrated on this. People really do act like it has everything, when its adaptations had to make sacrifices like any other predator.

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 День назад +1

      And the fact that the only reason it was that powerful was because it's normal prey could kill literally ANY OTHER land predator, including the T-rex itself

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 День назад +2

      @@alejandroelluxray5298
      TBH I do think Triceratops does get overrated as well. Yes, it’s formidable, but modern predators that kill large prey are hampered far more by prey size than prey armaments, so Trike could easily have been much easier to hunt compared to sauropods or the largest hadrosaurs.

  • @Whaleydavey
    @Whaleydavey 2 дня назад +4

    Didn’t the great mass extinction prove that the smaller the organism the more adaptable it is to adversity?
    Couldn’t this apply to predators?
    So a lemming would be more successful than a T-Rex as a predator ; and a spider would be more successful than a lemming as a predator. So maybe an ant is the most successful predator ever.

  • @kevinnorwood8782
    @kevinnorwood8782 День назад

    I really loved the premise of this video. EVERY predator in nature, both extinct and extant, has flaws. But a GOOD predator knows how to maximize its strengths and avoid situations where its flaws can come to the forefront (or be exploited).

  • @MrEmilable
    @MrEmilable 2 дня назад +3

    Anomalocaris is a Prefect Predator...
    becuase it´s Doing it´s Best.

  • @manzac112
    @manzac112 12 часов назад

    I still don't understand why there are certain people who want to just label a perfect predator when they don't understand that there's a lot of reasons why that cannot happen. Every animal is adapted to its own environment and the given situation that it's applied to. Sometimes they progress or sometimes they don't need to change. That's the beauty of life on Earth.

  • @chrisrandom1404
    @chrisrandom1404 День назад +1

    Awesome video as always. Part of the fun of paleontology is using your imagination.

  • @liamdealmeida9914
    @liamdealmeida9914 2 дня назад +26

    "The perfect predator doesn't exist"
    **Human has joined the chat**

    • @Rhinoxsaurus
      @Rhinoxsaurus 2 дня назад +5

      I would've gone with orca

    • @alienstar2088
      @alienstar2088 2 дня назад +3

      Until we lose our big bonk stick, not so perfect then lol

    • @migueljardim8177
      @migueljardim8177 2 дня назад +7

      We aren't perfect predators by any stretch of the imagination.

    • @dreadshells5611
      @dreadshells5611 2 дня назад +3

      @@migueljardim8177 yes we are.

    • @migueljardim8177
      @migueljardim8177 2 дня назад +3

      @@dreadshells5611 You hear yourself? That's hubris.

  • @aharanr
    @aharanr 2 дня назад +3

    Fun lil video,

  • @mandarin420
    @mandarin420 2 дня назад +4

    Tell that to the feral cat in my yard

  • @Lucy-yc4bc
    @Lucy-yc4bc 22 часа назад

    Fantastic video

  • @Beanthespinosaur
    @Beanthespinosaur День назад +1

    Thank you. Somebody has finally said it!

  • @may829
    @may829 2 дня назад +2

    I'd argue the closest anything gets to being the "Perfect Predator" is an orca

    • @aliakbarmaliki3156
      @aliakbarmaliki3156 День назад +4

      I'd like to see how they thrive when they are suddenly thrown at the forest, savanna, or plateau. If anything, humans are the closest to being perfect predator imo

    • @Arcad1010
      @Arcad1010 День назад +2

      @@aliakbarmaliki3156this! I don’t get why some people in this comment section only base it on the success rate of capturing prey for animal to be considered a perfect predators. The way I see it for someone/something to be a perfect predator you must have high success rate of capturing prey but also adapting to various environments and be able to eat almost anything. Humans are the most extra ordinary predators for we are capable of eating almost anything and survive in different environments.

  • @ukan1527
    @ukan1527 День назад +2

    Here's a "awesomebro" take that I'll die defending. A VERY cliché one but also one I've been thinking a lot about for a while: a mature S. aegypticus has a realistically high chance of winning a one-on-one confrontation with a mature T. rex.
    Relative body mass, combat oriented adaptations and "intelligence" (most people who even consider this a noteworthy factor usually don't really know what they're talking about) are mostly a secondary factor in a confrontation, behavior is the primary one.
    Personally, the way I realistically see Spinosaurus is this: It reigns from an environment of extremes with harsh seasonal changes and numerous other large theropods with which it coexisted. Additionally, its niche doesn't seem to be exactly the "local fisherman that minds his own business" like the almost annoyingly prevalent association with crocodilians would have many assume.
    S. aegypticus was probably a generalist, a jack-of-all-trades that can work with whatever the harsh environment throws at it. It's a flightless heron that figured out being big and scary is a viable way to be allowed to do pretty much whatever it wants. During the wet season it sticks to wetlands where it exploits the abundance of large aquatic prey along the shorelines and whatever "small" (comparatively so, as in, overpowerable, so still pretty damn big) terrestrial prey that wanders close enough to be considered; During the dry season, it might need to wander quite a bit in between drying water bodies and rely on scavenging and bullying other theropods off their kills. How? I mean, the damn thing's got two independent and ridiculously overselected for display features, there is no way sexual selection is the only thing they were useful for. A sail that huge AND a tail fin that doesn't seem to be primarily used for swimming AND a head crest - these are all expensive structures that clearly are vital to its survival. I would not at all be surprised if Spinosaurus was an extremely trigger-happy animal that followed a "bite first, ask later" mentality.
    Most animals are prone to intimidation - an overused, yet rightfully so example would be honey badgers, who have made a living capitalizing off of this fact. Or geese, as another great example - often times they don't hesitate to go on the offensive at the first sight of something in their environment they don't like. It's not too far fetched to assume S. aegypticus also exploited this same fact, and used a combination of its intimidating appearance and a bold approach (likely accompanied by vocalizations) to scare off both would-be predators and competitors for resources.
    Tyrannosaurus, on the other hand, comes from an environment which it simply dominates, its main competition comes from itself. It's a macropredator adapted for bringing down large prey relative to its own body size. Put a T. rex in a close proximity with a S. aegypticus and it will probably show curiosity towards it, maybe try and poke around it for a bit to see what this strange animal is all about. The Spinosaurus, being used to dealing with theropods close to its own size, would know how to react and won't hesitate to charge at it - possibly sideways, keeping the broad side of the sail pointed at the threat while swiping its tail over the ground to distract and create noise, maybe even utilizing its fast jaw snapping capabilities to "clap" similar to what storks do (albeit for different reasons) to create even more confusion. If the T. rex doesn't immediately get the hint and back off the Spinosaurus might lunge at it, hissing, slashing and biting for a couple of moments before pulling away and repeating if the threat insists on not catching the memo.
    Admittedly, this behavior is obviously highly speculative, but I believe it makes perfectly good sense in conjunction with what we know of S. aegypticus. I also believe it might cause it to sometimes overestimate itself, making it a rather "arrogant" animal that occasionally tries to pick a fight with something that isn't willing to just back down (like a hungry C. saharicus who has just acquired a corpse, or indeed, a T. rex in a similar position), in which case it would either quickly reconsider and back away or potentially pay the price for its boldness in a physical exchange. Hopefully this all makes sense, apologies for the lengthy comment and thanks for another great video!

    • @elishafollet5347
      @elishafollet5347 День назад +1

      So your theory is that the spinosaurus was like a giant scaly goose?

    • @ukan1527
      @ukan1527 День назад

      @@elishafollet5347 To a significant extent, yes.

    • @greener2497
      @greener2497 День назад +1

      @@ukan1527 I like the shout out to the giant sail as I feel like this part of the spino is massively overlooked. The thing is not just skin, feather or some fat lump, it's a massive structure with bones, blood and tissue, which require a lot of nutrition to grow and burn a lot of energy just existing, I don't a creature evolve something that demanding just to show off, it must have played a much more important role

  • @fandomfanboy3743
    @fandomfanboy3743 16 часов назад

    This makes sense, especially considering the fact that predators have to hunt much larger or well armed prey, just to gain the necessary nutrients and calories they need to keep themselves healthy and alive. However they gotta hunt prey that will are more violent and trigger happy than themselves. For the Megalodon, it’s the Livyatan Melvillie, which is essentially a giga sperm whale that is almost the same size. For the crocs would probably be the spinosaurids, Titanoboa and nest pirates. For the Rex would be nest pirates, triceratops, edmontosaurus, alamosaurus, ankylosaurus and Deinosuchus.

  • @dagoodboy6424
    @dagoodboy6424 2 дня назад +2

    If i had to pick. Dragonflies may be the closest thing to a perfect predator. They have a high success rate.
    But kinda every predator is the perfect predator. They all fit thier niche.
    utill they dont...

  • @rileyernst9086
    @rileyernst9086 14 часов назад

    Allosaurus is an example of a sucsessful predator, they had supremecy over the Morrison, they were not the largest and scariest predators of their time. But goodness, there was so many of them and they were everywhere!

  • @charlespatrickwade3340
    @charlespatrickwade3340 День назад +1

    You used Agros by Paleowolf as the backing sound. A man of taste!

  • @Xaiff
    @Xaiff 17 часов назад

    Give raptors mimicry like chameleons & venom glands like komodo dragons.
    That would be terrifying 😂

  • @fabianvidrio370
    @fabianvidrio370 2 дня назад +2

    Love your content vividen, can you do an assessing survival with madly Mesozoic on the vastatosarus rex from peter Jacksons king Kong?

  • @PrehistoricMagazine
    @PrehistoricMagazine 20 часов назад

    I’ve always been fascinated by what size of a predatory dinosaur might have been the best size. Tough question. You can only be as good as your surroundings call for you to be. It’s like asking which athlete was better someone today or 50 yrs ago. Mike

  • @BeastNugget44Main
    @BeastNugget44Main День назад +1

    Isnt that one cat that fits in your palm the most successful predator ever

  • @MrHusang23
    @MrHusang23 2 дня назад +3

    "orbital bombardment"
    So the dinos were considered xenos or heretics?

    • @The_Raptor
      @The_Raptor День назад +1

      Both, because they're foreign life (they werent human) and they cant make prayers (because they're animals)

  • @Justakilla
    @Justakilla 2 дня назад +1

    Extinct zoo not being on that list gets me mad

    • @jkjk7423
      @jkjk7423 2 дня назад +3

      Extinct Zoo generally states a lot of facts without citing proper sources.

  • @WynnDo-yt2oe
    @WynnDo-yt2oe 2 дня назад +2

    Honey badgers

  • @daviddimitrov3696
    @daviddimitrov3696 День назад

    I love dinosaurs. I have since a child but growing up my favorite dinosaur was not Trex like all the others. It was Carnotaurus, right now I love every dinosaur so picking a top top favorite is hard. One day I might feel like Spinosaurus, another time Saurophaganax, it's never consistent just dew to how much variety there is.

  • @pyrrhusofepirus8491
    @pyrrhusofepirus8491 2 дня назад +4

    Hey, Vividen have you seen the animated short film Antediluvian by Mario Lanzas, depicting and animating the earliest depictions of Dinosaurs? It’s an incredible piece of animation.

    • @TheVividen
      @TheVividen  2 дня назад +1

      I haven't! I'll have to check it out. Mario does great work.

    • @pyrrhusofepirus8491
      @pyrrhusofepirus8491 2 дня назад

      @@TheVividen It’s only three-minutes and it will mesmerise you, and it makes me wonder why Lovecraftian literature hasn’t utilised depictions of Antediluvian Dinosaurs.

    • @tannermcguire7713
      @tannermcguire7713 День назад

      Mario is incredible, i love his paleo period size comparisons

  • @mhdfrb9971
    @mhdfrb9971 2 дня назад +14

    Parasites enter the chat

    • @theodoreavdikos9804
      @theodoreavdikos9804 2 дня назад +1

      A parasite isn't a predator though

    • @regularguy2807
      @regularguy2807 2 дня назад

      @@theodoreavdikos9804 If it kills its host it is.

    • @theodoreavdikos9804
      @theodoreavdikos9804 2 дня назад

      @@regularguy2807 This form of killing is nowhere near perfect, so they're not worth mentioning

  • @vladline1882
    @vladline1882 День назад +1

    If I want to build my own Dinosaur I will go with Sauropod. Brachiosarus with Osteoderm like Titanosaur.

  • @cro-magnoncarol4017
    @cro-magnoncarol4017 День назад

    Tyrannosaurus may have not been the perfect terrestrial predator, but it was pretty damn close.

  • @odd-eyesdragoon
    @odd-eyesdragoon День назад +1

    No such thing as an ultimate lifeform, no matter how much we want it to exist.

  • @thegreywardenherald8923
    @thegreywardenherald8923 2 дня назад +5

    The 3 most important criteria for a successful predator in my opinion are:
    1) Intelligence
    2) Doesn't specialize.
    3) Adaptability to multiple environments and climates.
    Honestly, in my opinion, the 2 species closest to being "perfect" predators are actually alive today, and they are:
    1) The African Wild Dog- As far as I know, they have the highest hunting success rate of any predator today at 80%. They click Intelligence, and they don't specialize in hunting only a few species.
    And 2) The Mountain Lion/Puma: the widest ranging land mammal on Earth, with its range extending from southern Alaska/parts of Canada all the way to the southern tip of South America. They check all 3 criteria, especially the adaptability mark, but they don't have as high of a hunting success rate as the African Wild Dog, sitting at a rate of about 50% according to most sources I could find.

    • @ratfoot6490
      @ratfoot6490 2 дня назад +2

      Nah humans the perfect predator. Any ecosystem, we rule it. African wild dogs are endangered and pumas have been driven from much of their old range.
      Also dragonflies have a higher success rate than wild dogs, not that hunting rate success is the best indicator. Dragonflies get bodied by robber flies, and wild dogs get punked off their kills by lions.
      Also humans are wider ranging than pumas, so are red foxes.
      Aside from humans I'd say orca are the ultimate predator. They can kill almost anything they come across, though they may be occasionally be driven off, nothing really beats them. But even then ocra's pale in comparison with humans, I'd say humans are the only thing that has gotten close to what could be a perfect predator.

    • @turnipmanz1754
      @turnipmanz1754 2 дня назад +2

      I’d say coyotes and red foxes due to their adaptability and being very wide spread

    • @shafqatishan437
      @shafqatishan437 2 дня назад +2

      African wild dogs are least successful in terms of survivability. They can't survive in deep forests or desert ecosystem. On grassland and savannahs where they thrive, spotted hyenas hugely outcompete them and lions drive their population to extinction almost every time. As for pumas, yes they're very successful and adaptable but leopards do it way better than them in Asia and Africa, in fact feral cats are the most successful land predators by far.

    • @Vexinsight
      @Vexinsight 2 дня назад

      I would say that gray wolves and leopards represent better examples of this.

  • @Kai0kenAssassin
    @Kai0kenAssassin День назад

    Interesting topic. But it makes sense, all successful predators are adapted to take on their specific food.
    Also, All Hail the Tyrant King 👑 🙌

  • @jodebever
    @jodebever 2 дня назад +2

    Tarbosaurus would've been perfect if it wasn't for any extinction events

  • @k7l3rworkman97
    @k7l3rworkman97 День назад

    Love this vid haha
    0:11 Basically described a Dragon 💪🏻🤣

  • @gabrieltheachillobator
    @gabrieltheachillobator 2 дня назад

    Definitely well said
    Although I would like to add that a fire breathing, winged, armored rex really isn't a monster, that description is literally just a western dragon that looks like a rex xD
    Which in its own environment can very well be a perfect predator for that world (of course this adds to the myth of the perfect predator being a myth)
    Honestly any attempt I've seeb at making perfect predators just end up making blueprints for a fantasy creature that you can place in a fantasy world where it's no different than presators from our reality

  • @technologic21
    @technologic21 14 часов назад

    On the evolutionary spectrum, Xenomorphs have adapted to be good hunters. Able to adapt to any environment, from the vacuum of space, to deep underwater. Their silicon-biology is designed for stealth and attack, acidic blood as a defense mechanism, a tough exoskeleton, and a hardy parasitic reproduction cycle. The perfect organism.

  • @manzac112
    @manzac112 12 часов назад

    That's why I always say, if there really was a predatory theropod that would easily Outlast to the present day, it would be the Ceratosaurs/Abelisaurs. They didn't have to change much and they can fit into any niche in any given environment.

  • @introversao
    @introversao 4 часа назад +1

    The time its the perfect predator

  • @Rose-yx6jq
    @Rose-yx6jq 7 часов назад +1

    Eh, I'd say sharks and crocodilians are pretty perfect. Sharks are older than trees and crocodilians survived the KT extinction event

  • @andresrodriguez8635
    @andresrodriguez8635 2 дня назад +1

    Nothing is perfect!

  • @voltaireborn9902
    @voltaireborn9902 10 часов назад

    0:01 bro just described my perfect predator😭🙏

  • @НиколайАгония
    @НиколайАгония 6 часов назад

    We quite are The Apex Predator of every niche

  • @MemeGodAzul
    @MemeGodAzul День назад

    No such thing as relative perfection.
    Perfect is already an absolute concept, no flaws, objective.
    Mortality is objective, trash is good for flies but bad for humans, that's objective to each entity.
    Like I said, it's not about preference. That only applies to subjective concepts like things u like, love, want, desire, hate, loathe, despite, favorite, agree & many others that exist through baseless ever changing opinions, emotions, thoughts & etc.

  • @adexterwolfe
    @adexterwolfe 2 дня назад

    Loves this after a hard days work, Viv! Whats the name of the music please??

  • @ivanlol7153
    @ivanlol7153 2 дня назад +2

    Where does the name "Vividen" come from?

  • @jamesaron1967
    @jamesaron1967 13 часов назад

    What you say is very true and wise in a biological sense.

  • @The-recolored-clone3354
    @The-recolored-clone3354 2 дня назад +1

    About weasels?

  • @rileyernst9086
    @rileyernst9086 14 часов назад +1

    The ultimate predator is the Dragonfly. 97% of their hunts end with a sucsess, literally nothimg else can compare.

  • @triax7218
    @triax7218 16 часов назад

    Within its own domain any apex predator could be considered the perfect predator

  • @WallNutBreaker524
    @WallNutBreaker524 День назад +1

    I was about to say that this video is ripe for taking inspiration for writing Fantasy Creature's, and 4:58 in he says he's also a Fantasy Writer. Noice. 🤣👌

  • @jeremydamour5128
    @jeremydamour5128 7 часов назад

    Dino with wings, breaths fire and is large is that a dragon?

  • @furioussherman7265
    @furioussherman7265 2 дня назад

    I can actually think of a perfect predator: Dragonflies. They have the highest percentage of successful hunts of any carnivore on Earth.

  • @Nasuto1702
    @Nasuto1702 14 часов назад

    The perfect predator already exists. Its us. humans. we are the greatest predators on this planet.

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 2 дня назад

    Indeed, we can like Apex predators, but we can’t overhyped them too much

  • @aeyelashbug6311
    @aeyelashbug6311 День назад

    The perfect predator would ideally not rely on other species for survival. Which, spoiler, makes it not a predator

  • @impudentdomain
    @impudentdomain 22 часа назад +1

    A cat is nearly the perfect predator.

  • @AmericanAdvancement
    @AmericanAdvancement День назад +1

    The perfect predator doesn’t exist…
    Oh, oh no. There are some hairless apes with sharp pointy sticks just on top of that hill over there.
    And their descendants have stepped on that shiny white ball in the nighttime sky.

  • @joseluiscalixto5651
    @joseluiscalixto5651 2 дня назад

    I agree with your opinion, there is no perfect predator, each carnivore has its ecological niche. Animals are not monsters, but organisms that fulfill a function and survive in their natural environment.

  • @godzillamcdrewgodzilla2970
    @godzillamcdrewgodzilla2970 52 минуты назад

    I heard a theory one time about mosasaurs saying it went extinct because it was “ to perfect of a predator” just wanna know your thoughts

  • @badabing3391
    @badabing3391 День назад +2

    wouldnt something like a human be a perfect predator by being able to hyperspecialize to some niche by simply using tools? Tools can often provide a competitive edge over animals that exist in a niche through evolution, since tools can adapt and specialize more quickly, and yet do not prevent specialization in any or every other niche

    • @hildabumagat2688
      @hildabumagat2688 День назад

      We're Omnivores

    • @badabing3391
      @badabing3391 День назад +2

      @@hildabumagat2688 but we are perfectly capable of taking on a predatory niche and outcompeting the predators in that niche. Arguably any niche that isnt parasitic

  • @widodoakrom3938
    @widodoakrom3938 2 дня назад +4

    Humans is the perfect predator

  • @calvinfujii5921
    @calvinfujii5921 День назад

    When you think about it, aren’t humans the definition and embodiment of the perfect predator?

  • @platinumwarrior1309
    @platinumwarrior1309 День назад

    So what you’re saying is, dragons are the perfect predator 🐉

  • @FireChicken747
    @FireChicken747 День назад

    So in short. If its the best at what it can do. A Small wild cat could be the best predator.
    Obviously relative to size But the point still remains.

  • @fanboygamer3e
    @fanboygamer3e День назад

    I mean if Relative perfection mean being able to adapt & thrive in just about every environment, the perfect predator already exists & it’s us. I mean think about it, there are 7 Billion human all across the globe in just about every biome or climate the earth can produce & we can basically make up for any weakness we have by using our brains & making things with our hands, don’t have any claws or fangs, just smash some rocks together & put the shards at the end of a stick, can’t swim far or fast enough to catch a fish, just dig out the inside of a tree tie a bit of bait to a stick & wait for the fish to come to you

  • @Dataism
    @Dataism 2 дня назад

    What humans? I have heard people describe them as "Super predator's."

  • @jeremydamour5128
    @jeremydamour5128 7 часов назад

    Hmmm I think httyd’s dragons are the perfect predator they can cover any niches even tho they don’t exist

  • @pootis4986
    @pootis4986 День назад

    Survival of the fittest is survival of the most adaptable not the biggest or the strongest necessarily

  • @Damasen13
    @Damasen13 2 дня назад +5

    I'm actually curious as to how a Rex would fair in hunting the Sauropods of its time in Alamosaurus? (not me imagining Littlefoot's mother vs Sharptooth but IRL version jk)

    • @cjacobs851
      @cjacobs851 2 дня назад +5

      Hunting juveniles wouldn’t be impossible, but adults is a bit of a stretch. If mobbing was something that happened, say during an annual migration, then if everything went right, they could probably take down a weak/ill/elderly Alamosaurus. Going after healthy adults is more of a death wish, even for the most powerful land predator that we know of.

    • @jkjk7423
      @jkjk7423 2 дня назад +5

      It wasn't as suited for it as Carcharodontosaurs were, but they'd still be fairly competent at it. Juveniles and subadults up to ~20 tons would be feasibly taken down by Tyrannosaurus. Those on the smaller side wouldn't be tall enough to avoid Tyrannosaurus's jaws, with their necks exposed to 1-shot pulverizing bites. Larger subadults won't be able to be killed in 1 bite, but Tyrannosaurus's teeth can still inflict horrific soft tissue damage despite not being as sharp pfp as Carchs, and Tyrannosaurus can still use its robust neck and body to violently thrash and twist, maiming off flesh and ripping open huge wounds whilst crunching through bone at the same time. Particularly old and sick adults could also potentially be killed if they were resting, though it would be very risky.

    • @Damasen13
      @Damasen13 2 дня назад

      Ah so they can still employ the hit and run strategy that Carcharodontosaurs use. Neat. Would love to see an accurate depiction of that in a docu.

    • @migueljardim8177
      @migueljardim8177 2 дня назад +1

      They would be less successful than members of the Carcharodontosaurid family at the same task. They would likely have to use a different strategy entirely or just not attempt it at all.

    • @greener2497
      @greener2497 День назад

      @@jkjk7423 that is some massive asspull lol. "feasible" my ass, sauropods up to 20 tons is hard to take down even for specialized like the carcharodon members. It's crazy how people believe a t-rex could just walk up to something and bite its neck like nothing. T-rex didn't hunt tall preys like sauropods, they were just not built for that, triceratop and edmonto are NOT on sauropod scale. T-rex neck is not as flexible as the carcha members, t-rex also bite slower and their jaw is useless unless they get a good grip, unlike the carcha. It's exhausting even under a video like this you get people trying to frame the t-rex as some super predator that would do well anywhere, insane

  • @matebakk5187
    @matebakk5187 День назад

    You could argue that humans are the perfect predators. Cheating the answer by a lot but we are truly dominating the planet in ways never seen before. There is literally nothing we couldn't hunt to extinction if we really, really wanted to. Lol
    In evolutionary terms I guess someone could argue for sharks or crocs. As far as I know their general shape/hunting strategy aren't that different than what was 100s million years ago.

  • @regularguy2807
    @regularguy2807 2 дня назад +2

    It's called man.

  • @richardsorgo8600
    @richardsorgo8600 День назад

    I do wonder if humans can fit into the category of "Perfect Predator". Though they are not a 10 ton, razor toothed, vice jawed, hypermuscular, cat sensed, charismatic apex predator.
    They have a terrifying president for how well they can hunt and kill other animals with their scary tools and strategies, and good at adapting to various environments that aren't too extreme. But also seem to hunt and eat anything (from small rabbits to the mighty mammoths).
    Not trying to make some pro human propaganda here.

  • @CharmainDesrosiers-qf4mn
    @CharmainDesrosiers-qf4mn День назад

    hi I'm Robert I'm using my mom's phone right now. Do you know what really grinds my gears who wakes up and decides to make a cool dinosaur documentary but then put it on a website that not everyone can get or access. I've been wanting to watch prehistoric planet ever since it came out but every time I've gotten Apple TV plus it just doesn't work so I don't know why they couldn't just put prehistoric planet on Netflix with the rest of their documentaries like blue planet add Frozen worlds. Like why why do you make the best documentary and you don't put it with the rest of your documentaries like that's evil. And yes I know this has nothing to do with your video it's just something random I thought of while watching your video.have a great day🙂😔🙂😔

  • @User_1-r6t
    @User_1-r6t День назад

    The perfect predator does actually exist it’s just not perfect overall it’s perfect for what it’s ADAPTED for
    Take crocodillians for example they haven’t need to make any major changes for millions of years cuz there so good at what they do
    (This is just my opinion btw)

  • @Meme-penguin69
    @Meme-penguin69 15 часов назад

    If the asteroid never hit the planet would humanity still evolve in to what we are today?

    • @maxfightmaster4832
      @maxfightmaster4832 12 часов назад +1

      Very unlikely anything close humans would have evolved if non-avian dinosaurs were still around. The vacant ecological niches that were filled by primates in our own timeline would have been far too competitive for any small mammal to succeed in. There's a reason why mammals never strayed from rodent-like and small carnivore niches until all their competitors (the non-avian dinosaurs) were gone.

  • @harshvardhanrathi3816
    @harshvardhanrathi3816 2 дня назад +5

    Who the fuck said the megaldon is 100 tons 💀

    • @gipsyavenger3969
      @gipsyavenger3969 2 дня назад

      The latest estimated is around 106 tons if I remember right

    • @francissemyon7971
      @francissemyon7971 2 дня назад +1

      ​@@gipsyavenger3969There is no such 106 t estimate in the peer reviewed literature, simply the possible 100 t prediction for a 20 m or more individual. Never debunked nor confirmed.

    • @francissemyon7971
      @francissemyon7971 2 дня назад

      Gottfried (1996). That's literally on the wiki page.

    • @Protest467
      @Protest467 6 часов назад

      ​@@gipsyavenger3969141 tons*

  • @levonleban6252
    @levonleban6252 17 часов назад

    Sir a t.rex with wings, and armor is a dragon XD.

  • @superiorcybergodzilla5670
    @superiorcybergodzilla5670 День назад

    The Perfect Organism

  • @Kuba_K
    @Kuba_K 2 дня назад

    What if i told you that there is one perfect predator in nature already?
    Said predator doesnt rely on evolution to gain advantage over prey, therefore it outmatches every creature it can eat.