The Ups and Downs of Headless Guitars - Gear Gods
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Headless guitars have a lot to consider - what are the pros and cons? Trey lays it all out for you!
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My main reason for preferring headess is the incredible sustain and precision tension. I also have it on a custom Moses Graphite neck-through 6 string bass, so the harmonic clarity, ridiculous sustain, and spot on tension make Jack NOT a dull boy. Physics, man. Physics is so sweet. Headless for sure.
Ergonomics: You didn't really touch on anything except for weight and neck dive. Ergonomics has to do with correct posture. Yes, weight and having to pull against the neck certainly has to do a lot with it, but things like how the neck helps (or hurts!) your hand position, how it feels when you're sitting with it (do you have to lean over or can you sit comfortably and upright), and access of controls (getting to your knobs, tuners, etc.) are ergonomic-related. While, again, weight does have bearing here, it's not everything. A Strandberg is going to be more ergonomic than, say, a Kiesel - not because they're better, but because they were designed with that in mind. Lastly, the Parker Fly (in its original form, not the bastardized cheap models US Music put out before destroyed their company), a great guitar WITH a headstock and standard tuning machines, was built around ergonomic principles - lightweight (wood w/ carbon fiber mix, weighing in at 5 lbs.), better access to higher frets due to extreme contours, and great knob positioning. So it's not all about being headless for ergonomics.
Downsides: Playing a headless guitar makes people think two things - you're either an extreme metalhead, or you're stuck in the 80's and "did you say Steinberger?" (nope). That's not a problem if you're in a modern prog metal band or one that covers 80's songs. But, as primarily a post-rock/post-hardcore/ambient player that plays a Strandberg 8 string, I get a lot of "WTF are you playing? That's not a Tele!" looks. I don't care because they don't know just *how good* the guitar feels and plays, but, if you're trying to paint a brand image for yourself and your band, things can get tricky. Heck, I had a friend that had to go out and buy a 4-string bass because their band's publicist said his 6-string bass "didn't fit the image of the band."
Gear Gods take it junior college word of the day was paramount.....
Gear Gods I agree with the ergonomics point. Headless guitars really encourage proper seated playing that is very helpful to posture.
NO FLOYDS on the headless right?
Bodiless guitars are lighter and shorter.
rwl6935 is anyone making a nice one? The Anygig guitar kinda sucks but I would love a high quality version. You might have been being sarcastic but I don't care
J Baron yeah, I was just trying to be funny.
The Gittler Guitar: ruclips.net/video/2eEB-vJic_o/видео.html
chapman stick
That's some true 3rd wave djent shit there. 10 string bodiless guitar.
Trey Xavier: "you can't get a headless Tele"
2 days later: Strandberg releases a headless Tele
Djentleman Goldbar and that thing is nice!
The thing i like about teles most are their headstock xD
I need a teadless hele
"you can't tune and play at the same time"(reaches down to demonstrate, discovers you can) "well you can buuuut" lol
Or just play the string with your dominant hand and tune with the other one.
You missed some stuff;
The headless guitar stays in tune better.
You don’t get any “string shing” from the strings above the nut.
And, on a headless guitar, if the strings are not cut flush, they are extremely sharp and can cut you and your bandmates.
**if the strings are not cut flush, they are extremely sharp and can cut you and your**
Mwa ha ha... Everybody runs when I fire up my Vader 8 :D
I think he glossed over the the fact that broken headstocks are a prominent way for a reg electric to receive serious damage, something which is effectively negated on headless guitars. I say glossed over, because he made the joke about all Les Pauls eventually "becoming" headless, but I think it's a good talking point! Structurally more sound at the headstock than regular guitars, a real advantage.
Fuck it hurts so bad to get poked by cut strings. That shit for some reason hurts more than getting straight up cut open.
I find that new strings dont really have a stretching in period as well, at least for me. I put them on and they stay in tune perfectly straight away.
@@Southboundpachyderm you could put something at the end of them, a little wax ar something maybe
Does anyone wana donate for me to get a headless?
Thx lov u
You have a headless allready
He didn't when he said this
Worked out I see
Now by me one Rudy
screw you rudy you have kiesels i got nothing lol just a decent schecter c1 fr s and a legator ninja 7 multiscale. i need it more so noone donate to rudy hell just make not funny vids with it. ill actually use it!
"Feels like a toy" was how I was feeling when I first picked up a guitar after learning bass
For downside no. 3, as odd as it may feel, it is possible to learn to use your fretting hand to pick the note as you adjust the tuning gear with your picking hand .
Hang it upside down? Because satan?
Robert Corcoran yes
Fuckin yes
Satan can u make me famous?
🤣
Hail Satin
Downside #6: You won't play like Allan Holdsworth. :D
I guess another plus with headless is not worrying about headstock breaks
Headless instruments are generally not gonna suffer neck dives like those common in most 5+ string basses
About the first con. Strandberg designed a special hanger for their guitars. Which is more like a guitar stand but on the wal
For me, I think it's way pass time for headless guitars and the small size looks cool (1) and (2), I believe that they are perfect for practicing
I think all the upsides are bigger with a headless bass. Esp. whacking bandmates. I love my headless Kiesel VB4. The VB4 fits really nice on a super compact stand from Europe who's name I forget. It fits in my guitar case gig pouch. On a bass, you can pluck the string with your left hand and tune with your right so that you get some semblance of an attack note. I'm an old fuddy duddy and I love headless. I play guitar too, and I don't think the benefits are enough for me to buy another guitar, but I have friends that have them and I think they're great. One fellow in particular plays a shitton and he seems to really appreciate the ease of carrying around and playing (for 3 hours) a smaller instrument. We sometimes play 2 - 3 hour sets, and if I split the time on guitar and bass evenly, at my age and fitness, I'd consider getting a headless bass. But I play mostly bass so that's where I feel the benefit. Plus, basses are just heavier than guitars.
To each their own really. I own and play both. The absolute best thing about my strandberg is the shape of the body and its the most comfortable guitar ive ever played.
Solving the attack tuning is as simple as incorporating left hand pizzicato technique into guitar.
I owned a headless strandberg but it was dumb(it had no brain and even no space for it) so I sold it and bought an SG (Superior Guitar) she’s smart and I love her.
i learned to play on my sg, so it’s no problem for me
Love all the upsides and the prospect of owning a headless. If you’re on a budget (approximately $2000) what’s your personal preference for best overall headless guitar? Keep up the great work Trey!
Just buy an SG(Superior Guitar)
I perfer them tho I'm a learning player and am trying practice all the time so its super nice to take it everywhere especially a headless travel guitar.
Never had a problem with an SG and I've had a few (currently own two). However, every single "V"-shaped guitar I've ever owned (mine by Gibson, Epiphone, Dean and Jackson) has been "neck heavy" and I've had to sell. I do have an original '58 Gibson I keep for obvious reasons but I only play it sitting down. Need to add one of these headless guitars to my collection.
My Jackson Rhoades offset V seems pretty balanced but it is definitely annoying to play sitting down
Strandberg are the most beautiful. The design is just cool!
how about holding the guitar like a left-handed while tuning?
Most obvious upside to me seems to be weight centeredness. Neck dive has to be just about impossible on something like these, even with a longer scale.
The main thing for me is the weight of a guitar. Sure my Gibson is 11 pounds (mine has no weight relief) and that seems like a small amount of weight but having to have it strapped on my shoulder for 2-3 hours when I gig sucks ass.
I've been convinced. I NEEEED IT
Brachial and radial nerve are on the arm... How could the strap on the shoulder compressa those nerves?
Strandbergs work with hangers! Mine looks sketchy hanging, but it's totally safe as I've tried tugging on the body and it doesn't budge.
For attack tuning, I pick the note with my left hand, felt weird at first but I've gotten used to it.
On the tunning couldnt you tune it left handed the move back to right to play? I am a beginner and really am wondering if i am missing why i wanna tune while mid song.
You can tune the attack just pick with your fretting hand
As a kiesel OM7 owner please for the love of God buy a pair of flush cutters if you get a headless and don't have them already. You know what's worse than getting hit with a headstock? Getting slashed by pointy string nubs
Actually at the factory what they do is cut them and then loosen the nut and pull them in so they’re not sticking out, then tune it up. I was like WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THAT
waoh waoh waoh, the sg isnt the worst guitar it sounds great and looks amazing and over all great it just has one flaw the neck dive
There are no down sides. They are nothing but wonderful.
will the g string stay in tune?
How does the tuning work can I tune from e to drop c or does it only go to one tuning
Idk about the other brands, but Strandberg also has that weird ass neck design. It’d probably be fine once you get used to it but my brain hurts just looking at it.
Strandberg do wall mounts for there headless guitars. It get your tunning point but I have to tune my floyd rose like that 😂
Thumbs up for the gibson bashing.
Hello, you Kiesel Zeus 7M is a beauty!!! I dream every day of owning one. Can you share the complete guitar spec?
The first 2 cons seems fairly obvious, but more upside overall. I'm enjoying my new Kiesel Vader 7 👍🏼
The tone in the intro sounds just like the tone from Nightmare from A7X.
Best distro kid advertisement ever
First time I saw one was at the end of bill and Ted's excellent adventure
I almost googled SG !
But how i would stab my enemies without the pointy headstock?
1:20 i got muscular distrophy and...ESP's are a fucking nightmare for me...i tried to carry a T-407...i was about to fall because it was so fucking heavy HAHAHAHHAH
Sg rulez what are you thinking about
Headlespaul
Step 1. Look at Aristides’ guitar gallery
Step 2. Complain that normal guitars don’t look very rad anymore
The Kiesel you're playing is an epiphany in beauty imo, the .strandberg is good as well, but not as sexy as the Kiesel.
what i want is a headless explorer
Tony Iommi disliked this video for dissing SG and have 420 dislikes now.
That's why i choose air guitar.
I'm just here for the Gibson shade.
SG = shady guitar
@@treyxaviermusic True story: when I was young and inexperienced and my only electric guitar was a Maestro Les Paul that played like flat ass and sounded like a donkey, I saved my money and bought an Epiphone SG because I figured, it looks cool, some cool guitarists play them, and people seem to like them. And I liked it at first, until I got myself a Schecter Corsair in college and realized how bad the SG actually neck dived, how flexy the neck was, and how annoying the front-mount jack was. And then I found out about “headless Gibsons” and promptly sold the SG 😂
That sg roast came out of nowhere 😂
Downside: more expensiive than regular guitars - Upside: Plini uses headless
I love Plini!
Alejandro Salinas There is that Legator headless that's about 1000$ ish
Look at grotes, nk, big john headless guitars on Ebay. They cost anywhere between $150-350. Fairly cheap. I just bought a Big John Headless Tremolo guitar on there and I can't wait for it to come in 😁 You can upgrade the pickups afterwards and you'll get pretty damn close to a strandberg without spending $2,000
Hey man thanks for the tip, please let me know if your purchase was worth it! ;)
@@avidia_music Will do, man! I'm planning on doing a vlog type video unboxing, demo, reaction, upgrading the pickups, and reviewing before and after upgrading, all in one video! I might not remember to come back to this comment after I recieve the guitar so if you don't mind, subscribe to my channel so you can see my video on if it's worth it or not!
When somebody gives you the ''these are toys''-argument,just tell him/her,that Allan Holdsworth,may he rest in peace,was playing headless Steinbergers and Kiesel/Carvins for decades.
He actually said in an interview:''Why sould I use a more tradtional guitar,when I can use a headless model,that is more lightweight,plays easier,is easier to carry,stays better in tune and sounds just as good? I want a tool,that makes my job as a musician easier.''
Nothing else to add,the man said it perfectly.
greekfreak1980 utility over aesthetics
Add a space after your commas
suchdoge - duh, Slash will never die, cuz he's tHe SaTa Nic King. Arf, arf, bluck, bluck, neighhhhh.
That doesn't change the fact that they feel like toys. No matter who said what.
I also know that an incredible bass player named Joe Raposo used a headless hohner during his younger days in RKL, Rock N Roll Nightmare era (late 80s)
Those songs had fast and varied bass parts which Joe mastered to the point of even more complex improvisation, and in the live recordings from then, that bass sure as heck doesn’t sound cheap or like a toy in any way
And his bass was also passive pickups, he confirmed that in an interview from back then, saying he first wished he’d bought the active version, but eventually was happy with his setup (and you can hear why)
It just goes to show that from early on in the headless guitar/bass making game, the main manufacturers of them were producing with only professional quality and much higher efficiency in mind.
It’s clear from the way they’re set up that the headless aspect isn't merely an aesthetic gimmick, in fact the main emphasis/advertising point was really on them being professional grade instruments, the headless aspect just falling into that idea because it eliminates extra weight and adds general efficiency
Nothing beats air guitar.
dude, get a uke and report back here. I bet you fall in love with it.
Doesn't get any lighter than that!
Good thing everyone has an air guitar
bro i can shred better than steve vai on an air guitar than he can on a real guitar
And a mop guitar
Great video, im looking at getting a headless guitar very soon.
Phillip McKnight P H I L
Can't sharpen an axe with no head!
i don’t even know why your comment has a lot of likes but i’ll leave one
Have you got it ? Now thats 2 years gone. Have youuu?
I think one major upside, which you're actually touching a bit regarding the Les Paul, is that headless guitars eliminate the largest structural weakness on the guitar, making it a much more solid instrument. How many broken headstocks and scarf joints have we seen? Not to mention the weakness created by the truss rod access. Also there's no string slippage due to an angled pressure, the string tension is completely straight.
nohead nuts do require some break angle above the zero fret to avoid "nut buzz".
"SG is the worst guitar"
i was playing my SG while watching this video
GaLimotion I used to hate the look of SGs but got came to like it but thats just my opinion
GaLimotion - "I never did really anything so I'll jes make sht up cuz most r 2 dumb to notice."
Nice 1 mr expert of nuthn.
Oh, wait, I mean, good 1 mr trump.
fuck you sgs are beautiful
GaLimotion you've never played one you said so how would you have an opinion on them. Go play one and you'll find they're light, sound great, look great and feel great
GaLimotion look up a 61 SG custom, white with gold hardware... one of the best guitars I’ve ever seen.
That white guitar just looks delicious idk it reminds me of a cinnamon roll
Pro: it doesnt have a headstock
Con: it doesnt have a headstock
Mayones Hydra. Headless guitar named after a multi-headed goddess.
Sold!
Ironic
I hate to be that guy, but Hydra is a monster, not a goddess.
Hydra is Not a goddess.... Its a Multiheaded mystical creature....
But still cool!!!
One more thing: you'll never have to worry about accidentally snapping the headstock off! Oh and it can save alot of material for the manufacturer because angled headstocks need alot of extra wood.
The worst downside of the headless guitar is once you get used to it, any other guitar feels like a monster log in your hand and you literally can't play "normal" guitars anymore.
I've had a couple heavy guitars. (Knockoff Les Paul comes to mind). However, it's a little bit of a crybaby excuse to pretend all standard electric guitars are so heavy, and unworkable. Have you ever played an old school strat? (Joking, because pretty much everyone has). Every strat I've ever played was light as hell. That's exactly what I plan to build for my first attempt.
@@Danielson1818 But the sensation of weight is also partially due to neck dive, which is a serious issue you need to get deal with when playing guitar. A headless has no neck dive, thus is easier to play. It won't make you a virtuoso, but... You know... Better tool for the job.
what? don't tell me you never pluck your string with your left hand while tuning with your right hand. how do you think older generation fine tune their floyd rose???
Yeah you can do that, but I want the pick attack while I tune because of the small pitch change that happens when you hit it hard like I do when I play
Get more flexible man >.>
Older generation? Boy I'm 18 and JUST got done tuning my Floyd Rose installed Jackson RRX24. Is the Floyd Rose dying? Is there something I don't know about?
Metalhead Lazz I'm 15 and almost all of my guitars have Floyds
the point is floyds have been around so long that people already knew how to fine tune them, and this headless guitar comes and suddenly it is so hard to tune and pick at the same time.
Headless guitars look super cool and futuristic! I've always preferred the compact aesthetics of them, rather than the bulky oversized looking standard super strats and the like.
@@jcountry05 Yes I know.
Lol I play Ibanez RG Superstrat all the way, but I'm thinking about going headless💀
Something tells me Trey doesn't like Gibsons too much...
Ah, who am I kidding? I hate them too. Especially their basses.
Soiled Shorts the Thunderbird is the worst bass ever
It has an "ok" sound, but the build quality just drags it straight down.
Fuck gibson... bad for your bones lolol.
or people who like fat guitars. i'll take a 50's neck any day of the week, thank you very much. thank goodness you can ask for that size of neck from most companies and builders! completely unrelated, but i'm selling a gibson sg (shitty guitar) (neck's too thin), any takers?
With ESP making fantastic Eclipse models under 1000€,there is no reason to get a Gibson these days
but no one remembers Steinberger that created headless guitar lol
pretty sure thats widely known
That’s the most accepted, yes. But they didn’t innovate past that.
Nope, actually, Les Paul did the first. However he made it in steel, and as fast as it was under spotlight on stage, it went out of tune. Second was ..lo and behold... Fender, that only made it to prototype stage, and it looked too weird for the high brass, so they put back the lid on that. Steinberger was the third, but made it commercially viable. However, he did not hold a patent on headless, I am sure he didn't know anything about Les Paul experiments or Fenders undisclosed prototypes. It was an idea of all his own.
ruclips.net/video/ZcPNicheB6c/видео.html
www.vintageguitar.com/1772/fender-headless-bass/
The shoebox with stings you mean?
Headless Guitar is an evolution of the Guitar like everything in History. I am certain that this development will be embrace eventually. If you check the history of the Guitar on RUclips this actually makes sense. Thank you for sharing this video.
I use a Kiesel Osiris on my live stream and I've had lots of people just say "that guitar is ugly". We have some minds to change!
it just looks kinda... overweight, fat, pluhmp. But hey if you're into it who cares!
Your guitar is fucking beautiful
Still looks ugly
That's because the Osiris model is the ugliest Kiesel model next to the Allen Holdsworth. They tried to combine the Vader and Aries models into 1 guitar but it looks clunky as shit and you might as well just get one of the other 2. The Zues on the other hand I have mixed feelings about. It looks super small but It feels amazing and you hardly notice.
(Just my opinion btw)
Because they don't look awful and they play like butter
Pro: it is a guitar
Con: it has no headstock
dude, never again worrying about bumping into anything or anyone is AMAZING FREEDOM, sir. Try evolution! You might just LOVE it!
As a headstock snob it bugs me....but that strandberg body is sick
Dumpy Goodness you can still bump stuff with that thing. It’s basically a really short scale guitar with a headstock
The Ibanez Ichi10 looks beautiful too.Definitely trying one soon.
I do have two SG's but they don't neck dive and are great guitars.
I don’t even have a headless, but I can easily see myself just plucking a string with my left hand pointer finger over the top and tuning with my right.
I’ve got a headless Vader 7 that kiesel did custom for me, and it’s the best guitar I’ve ever owned. The ergonomics (as you pointed out) and weight make it fit perfectly on your lap sitting down. It’s the first guitar I’ve ever played comfortably sitting down without a strap. I think they’re works of art, and the design just makes sense to me both from an aesthetic, and practical point of view. I get that they’re not for everyone, but I wouldn’t trade mine for anything.
I used to play a steinberger man I loved those guitars
I’m trying to decide on a Vader 7 right now. What pickups did you get? Anything you’d change?
I just bought my first headless, Agile 7 string multiscale with Fishmans. As a person with small hands (I am 6'1 and my hands are only slightly larger then my 5' girlfriend), its the most comfortable guitar I have ever played.
That Kiesel is gorgeous. Great spec choices!
5:13 you can just turn your guitar upside down, then you hit the note with your right hand and tune with the left.
Allan Holdsworth looked weird playing his...and this was a guy so goofy looking he even made a synth axe look cool, so.
Headless guitars are sexy AF! Love the look (and practicality) of them.
SG means Sexy Guitar, Trey!!
Jack Thunder I know right
Jack Thunder nope. I had a 2002 SG Special and it's ugly as fuck
Noo he was correct
They look like fucking squidward, how is that sexy
Lukas Kuipers an SG has bloody devil horns on it, how is that not cool?!
3# (or 2#) upside "Looks Cool!" 4# downside "Doesn't Look Cool!"
Am i a joke to you?
My Vader 7x doesn’t feel like a toy....though the Steinberger spirit did.....but yes I totally agree with ur SG definition 😂🤣😂🤣.....one downside too on the Vader is that tuning keys don’t have infinite turns, like a standard.....I play my Vader more than my other guitars because it plays perfectly, and the trem flutters beautifully..
I know. The trem is almost the best part of that guitar and I've been a Floyd Rose guy for a while.
to me they really look virtuostic
i agree, they look so classy and professional
cuz all the prog boys use them
Strandberg is already making headless T style guitars. ;-D
And S-style too, with the pickguard.
I want to get a 7 string boden so bad..
Would be cool if Harley Benton make a headless guitar. D: I would buy one. ^^
Mike Sperling Same!
Kachongui Kach headless, fanned, baritone, scalloped, graphite reinforced neck
and under 100 bucks!
I would pay more if the quality is awesome! ^^
Agile make one.
I got to play a Vader before and absolutely loved it, it was light, cool looking, and had an amazing sound, I definately am a fan of headless guitars.
I like how well your beard seperates your red face from your pale neck
Wtf 😂
Dude wtf lmao. How’d you even see that??? 😭😂😂😂
Have you considered just plucking the string with your left hand and tuning with your right? I've seen you play man, I know you can pluck an open string with your left hand if necessary :)
I don’t know about looking cool, they definitely look original and futuristic, but it bothers me when I look at the guitar, it’s like something missing, like phantom pain, or like looking at a crippled person , they are overall fine but that missing limb makes you feel very uncomfortable
that's pretty dramatic hahaha
I reckon you would have liked something like the Steinberger GS Scepter.
WEIRD.
I love headstocks more than anyone (EX: as a boy I saw the headstock of a Rickenbacker bass and was stunned and in love for life!) (But Rickys are not great instruments.).... BUT, i also learned to LOVE no headstock, even visually.
You may just need a bit more time to acclimate.
ANOTHER DOWNSIDE: CANT USE HEADTSTOCK TUNERS ANYMORE.....
Dar_Welchito you can! I've seen a headless with a headstock tuner clipped onto an extruding piece of metal or an unused pot. Still works \m/
But aren't they already pretuned at the factory? They come in tune and if you need change you have to leave it back again for service? Just like a car? They don't need to be tuned, there's no tuners on them, I can't see them, so they must not exist...
/CEO at Flat Earth Society
Headless look not cool and not bad. Only whole shape of guitar matters. Strandbergs are cool only being headless, and superstrat body shape just doesn't work without head.
“Over their decaying Corpses”
Great band name
I have an Ibanez Xiphos, which is one of the largest and heaviest guitars ever made. That case absolutely dwarfs even bass guitar cases. I fuckin love it though.
Justin Brantley the dean Razorback has a huge case too. About the size of a half sheet of plywood. Heavy as hell too.
Justin Brantley duuuude I want a Xiphos bad!
I had a BC Rich Warlock for a couple months.... you could rent space out in that case
Justin Brantley love my xiphos, done work to it now so it has absolutely no resale value xD dimebucker in the bridge, trem pocket routed out for an original edge and all black hardware with open gear tuners. The tuners solved the neck dive issue partly, moving the strap button down to below the input jack helped a lot too, now it only slightly creeps down when I’m playing
KiLl3R Mem3StAR I haven't done any modification to mine, it's been perfect. Stays in tune for months. And I love the sounds of it's dimarzios. Did yours not already come with an edge tremelo?
Most of the anti- comes from the 'it doesn't look cool!' thing. How many guitar players insist on slinging their guitar low, in an almost unplayable - but cool looking - position? It's nothing but fashion, and guitar players are huge fashion whores.
I bought a Strandberg Boden Original 6 last month and it was actually the best playing and sounding guitar i ever had. Unfortunately it had several dead spots and wolf notes throughout the g string caused by the resonance of the neck, no matter the setup. The frets were perfectly leveled too. It sucked to have 7 seconds of sustain on one fret and only 1-2 on the next one. I sent it back and didn't buy a second one
Florian Simon ur comment makes me glad I went with the Kiesel Vader 7x....because I considered the stranberg....the Vader is the most comfortable guitar I ever played
Im glad i ordered the vader 7x.
This is my verdict too. I think Strandberg sometimes - more often than not - overthought and went overboard with all things ergonomic. Basically the chambered body, and making all things as comfy and ergonomic as hell. It's like, they've gone overboard with that and sacrified dead spots, overall sustain, and uneven balance in terms of equal across the range of notes. The lighweight wood thing is a balance things, and I think he went overboard, and overshoot the design so much it will - turn out - defeat the purpose. Too lightweight headless guiatrs, as those ones with paddles, just bounces and wiggles around while playing.
If I have one small niggle with headless, that is combined with lighweight or small bodies, is that it is very easy to actually knock the neck in an in/out motion while playing. I e: the force from the fingers needed to press down a string on the fret is enough to wobble and move the neck "inwards" too at the body. And when you release the finger, it slighlty goes back again. This is due to physics, the lever effect. You have a rod, and move it at the end, it's easier to move something heavier at the other end (the body). A headstock mitigate this somewhat, as well as a heavier body.
I e I generally don't want the fingers little faint force be able to "dislocate" the neck in and out. It shouldn't be enough to move the neck, just the strings. This is especially highlighted when doing multi-finger tapping across the fretboard.
SG stands for 'shitty guitar'--- i love it