Cap a few weeks ago: “We don’t want to do anything related to the real world events” Cap today: “Let’s sink their fleet lol” Great vid as always folks!
@@JAnx01 2. Tho big difference is this game has a basic hitpoint system as irl one hit to the ammo sotrage is enough to blow up the entire ship. As far as im aware ukraine used drones to distract the high power radar wich can only observe 180° and hit with 2 missikes as it only had a weaker 360° radar left
I end up binge watching your videos, even the hour long ones. I don't know what it is about your videos that keeps me glued to the screen for hours. Keep it up
Now that the Cruiser is really sunk, the rest of the Black Sea fleet has had to disperse. In your simulation it took 64 bombs to take out the cruiser, taking into account what it could track and shoot down. In reality the Ukrainians "distracted" the crew of the Moskva with a few drones and took it out with only TWO Neptune missiles.
From the image which supposedly shows it after the attack and before it went down, it looks like it didn't even try to engage the missiles launched at it.
@@metatechnologist Also realistically, for air cover, anything less than 2 F22 and 2 F15's wouldn't make sense for such a big strike force. And obviously the simulation should be done at night. No one would send B2's for a strike during the day time. Also the B2's should be spread out during the attack, as otherwise, just from the bombs radar tracking info it would be very easy to send fighters in the right area after they dropped the bombs, and even potentially loosing those B2's would be a bad deal. It would also make more sense to hit the main ship with a couple jasm-er from even an F-16, and instead of the B-2's you could then use plain old B-52's to rain bombs on the rest of the fleet.
Negative...the concentration on the cruiser was precisely how it should've been handled. IF that cruiser made it, this flight would not have and those landing craft would be hitting the beach
@@TheMerlinmk19 agree... but reality turns out to be you didn't need B2s, or anything big and expensive to take out that cruiser, just a bunch of relatively cheap surface skimming anti-ship missiles.
One version of events is that the Bayraktars were distracting the Moskva cruiser while two anti-ship missiles hit. An alternative theory which I have heard is that the Neptune missiles drew the attention of the ship's countermeasures since that's the sort of attack they would know how to defend. The TB2s were supposedly just for targeting, but in fact they could also have dropped bombs that hit the on-deck munitions, setting off the explosions. The cruiser has good defences against large missiles but might not have anything against the little bombs that the TB2s can drop.
There appears to be an image of the cruiser after it was hit and before it sunk. That image suggests 2 or maybe 3 hits on the side of the ship near the center, and at least no long range anti missile defenses having been active, which seems consistent with the missiles + distraction and/or adverse weather conditions theory.
As of 4/14/22, The Ukrainians sunk that very same missile cruiser with a handful of antiship missiles, which leads me to believe they watched your video and studied it and implemented your strategies. Well done Grim Reaper’s!
Coming back to this to absolutely laugh at the news that the Slava-class Moskva was badly damaged and abandoned today after being hit by a Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missile. Your hypothetical mission was fun to watch, and I just had to verify it was the Moskva here as well.
Fun fact: _Moskva_ was the lead ship of the whole class, but they changed her name after the USSR went to the past tense. God only knows why, _Glory_ is an excellent name for a cruiser.
@@PhoenixT70 Because they retired the Moskva (lead ship of a helicopter carrier class), and they didn't want to not have a ship in the fleet named after Moscow, so they renamed Slava. And I agree, Slava/Glory is a pretty awesome name.
I’d target 8 JSOWs at the Slava and 2 each at the larger surface ships AFTER the other B-2s targeted the fleet with 100+ SDB and AFTER the fighters then engaged with their HARMs and MALD decoys.
Honestly if the B-2 salvo would've targeted each ship, you would've just had to clean up the rest with the fighter element no problem. Great strike, great video! Slava Ukraini!
2 B2s would of focused the corvette, once they fired enoungh to draw off the corvette the others hit each landing ship with 2 each then dump the reast in the covrvette as the corvette is the threat The issue is warships can recover from a hit or two... a salvo not so much
Imagine thinking you're a good person citing a term used by Stepan Banderas' organization which was responsible for the rape, torture, dismemberment and immolation of 50,000-100,000 Polish people, most of which were women and children. You are the prime-example of the power Western-Media has in manipulating people into supporting outright egregious-causes on behalf of the special-interests which run their organizations.
Nice video, as most of the time..."leader of the pack", as most of the time: more enthusiasm, than competence, paired with realistic cowardness and humor ;) As long as "Cortana" (and others) help them, it seems, that they reach their targets. ;) Mixture of "Little Britain", Monty Python (just a flesh wound) and "serious" simulation. I love Grim Reapers! (strictly platonic!)
@@grimreapers I figured. Just dropping some irl info since I built them for 3 years. If yall have any questions about them I'd be more than happy to help!
Thanks and great vid! Too many aircrafts lost against a cheaper Russian fleet though, quite not the American way of operating hehe. Their way is “fight unfair: if enemy bring guns, we’ll bring tanks” to minimize casualties. Those fighters would have been mostly composed of F35’s and some raptors for air protection. Cheers! 😉
@@kelvinw.1384 exactly! It will be a very bad day even losing just one American personnel in the battlefield. Also financially, one American pilot or soldier killed will cost the army more (in terms of training and opportunity costs) than losing one machine. Experience and skills are more expensive to lose than material equipment.
I just watched this video yesterday afternoon. Then the news broke out during night that the Moskva cruiser was hit. They didn’t even need those B2s for that. So it seems now it’s free reign over the Black Sea for air forces.
Video idea: Plausible deniability involvement in the war. Could a stealth aircraft destroy the Kersh straight bridge and remain undetected from the Russians.
Ron, that goes for America as well,, the reason y Russia seems like they perform badly depends on who telling the news. furthermore Russia did not sanstion Ukraine for 12 years before they invaded, they did not put a no fly zone, they did not send in so called weapons inspectors to see what they were up against, the Russians dive in head first by themselves no Allies. America would flatten the hole country before putting one soldier on the ground. As for levensky he would not be running around asking for weapons he would be hiding, in jail, or dead.The Russians are nice.😁
So you're saying that the difference between America and Russia is that Russia actually sends soldiers in to commit the war crimes personally. Wow, that's so much better
@@campbell9825 if you could read you would know exactly what I said, but you have to try to sound “educated” and inject your interpretation of what others actually wrote, get a life!
Dudes! The Moskva (only dangerous ship) just "exploded" a few hours ago. No airstrike required. Seriously WTF?! The Russians are saying that a fire started onboard igniting ammo.
I really hope you still don’t think the S-400 is some magic system. Even going off of Russian manufacturers numbers, they are only going to get a firing solution at 40-50km or so on American 5th gens. American 5th gens that will be carrying ARM with upwards of 100nmi ranges.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 No, just want to simulate an attack on Sevastopol as accurately as possible. Since the 2014 Crimean attack was due to Russia’s attempt to maintain Sevastopol, it would be interesting to see if Ukraine could eliminate Sevastopol’s entire fleet, and thus the reason for the original conflict. If Russia no longer needs Sevastopol, why would they continue fighting?
An amphibious ready group (ARG), led by an LPH flat-top and accompanied by an attack submarine could do it. Note that (1) an LPH can carry a number of F-35 VSTOL aircraft, (2) the ARG consists of 6 or more USN ships, and (3) attack submarines can carry both torpedoes and missile systems now.
*Question:* Kortana, what is your nationality? I can't detect an accent ( of course you do not have to answer ) 🙂 And nice work guys, but I wonder if in reality we ( the USA ) would of relied more heavily on F35's, F22's and B1's? ( meaning it would've been an all stealth attack )
Russian fighters should have been spawned and started heading towards you the moment the B2's got detected And the ships would be moving wich would give gps a harder challenge.
jeah early warning radars dont give a f about stealth , also there are land stationed SAMs in the area, plus i think the cruiser in question had recived and updated air defense system .
And where is the air cover for the landing operation from air bases in the Crimea and mainland Russia? Where is Russian Air Force & Black Sea Fleet Naval Aviation?:)
@@hepphepps8356 It's funny you reference corruption in regards to Russia, while omitting the fact that according to the Panama Papers, Ukraine's own Poreshenko and Zelensky were both included in the leaks, utilizing secretive offshore accounts to hide their financial activities from the masses. Then just two weeks ago they found an ex-member of Ukraine's government, who fled the country, with $30,000,000 shoved away in his luggage.
Wouldn't a 2,000 pound JDAM blow those landing ships in half? I heard those things can bring down tall buildings by blowing out their structural supports.
@@bighands69 Landing ships most certainly can, if you set off the munitions in the cargo. Unless you meant aircraft carriers, which these are not. They're ships designed to transport troops, tanks, ammunition, etc. to the shore directly. They can beach themselves and then a door opens in the front letting all the assets be unloaded directly onto the beach.
Hey, Putin. I see you got a slava cruiser down there with you. Putin: Yeah, that's right. We got a whole... Hey, Putin. That slava cruiser's not with you anymore.
This was awesome, but could you do a similar scenario using only assets that Ukraine has? See if it would be theoretically possible to pull it off with their older tech and aircraft?
The RL Moskva was seriously damaged today by something. The Ukrainians claimed to have hit it with two missiles from a hidden Neptune missile battery. The Russians say it was a fire onboard that set off some ammunition. So, if it is now inoperable, is the rest of the Black Sea Fleet now vulnerable to high altitude air strikes like you folks demonstrated?
ironic - 30 missiles cant sink a DCS fleet. In reality, all it took was 2. Shows the innaccuracy of DCS when it comes to missiles and spotting stuff. This is probably the first recorded anti ship operation in modern history where two equals (in tech) met. Pentagon and everyone else in navy ops are now scared shitless as it proves that they all rely on theory of anti missile systems and radars.. and it failed in reality. One thing to be out in open sea with no civilians but in a small area like the black sea with outside interference a anti ship missile is way more effective then previous thought.
@@jmkhenka Maybe you have more up to date info than I do...but those particular missiles are subsonic and have small warheads. They shouldn't have been able to close with a guided missile cruiser, much less seriously damage it. However, if it was operating too close to shore, or the crew didn't react to the threat competently, or if that ship had design flaws that meant that it really can't take hits, then those could have all been factors...and none of us would be surprised by any of those factors given what we've already seen of the Russian military during this conflict. Regardless, Turkey had closed the entrance to the Black Sea to all warships, so if they can't repair that cruiser and put it back into service, then there likely won't be another to replace her within the scope of this conflict. Edit: Also, I don't believe for a second that anything can damage that ship enough to require evacuation...and yet not kill anyone on board. That's just silly.
@@TeenTeenFpv The S-400 has a maximum effective range of 400 km. Crimea is 180km from the location of the fleet, according to his in-game map. It's also a known fact that Russia has had S-400 missile systems in Crimea for quite some time.
All it took to sink Moskva was a surface to surface missile and some bad weather! Goodbye Moskva! Official Russian Sources reporting that Moskva has sank!
They only add assets (including most munitions) once they have pretty solid sources on their actual performance capabilities and success rate. Although, it must be said that munitions capability are some of the most debatable aspects of DCS, as all air-to-air missile ranges and in-flight velocity parameters are classified by their respective countries.
Imagine being a Mig/SU pilot.....flying to provide interception, with nothing on your scope...and then....you get a warning that an AMRAMM has locked onto you from about 15 miles away....and your radar STILL doesn't show any plane... and THEN YOU REALIZE there are F22's close by!!!
If you ask this question to me 6 weeks ago I would most likely no, ask this to me today and I say the US would totally wipe out the Russian Norther Fleet; easily.
17:23 Can someone please show Kortana how to record the monitor feed and not the headset feed of her VR setup please. The componsated Field of view on the headset looks wierd on a regular screen.
A very rewarding mission. Everyone except for Cap was strangely quiet other than during the discussion on the Grumpovitch family tree. Strangely no discussion of Yuri and Leonid Grumpovitch those well known blackguards of the Grumpovitch clan. Next time maybe?
No way would it take nearly that many hits to kill a Russian heavy cruiser. When you pack a ship with as many missiles as it can possibly carry you're basically a floating bomb. Just one of those munitions gets hit and the ship is done. Hell look what the Ukrainians were able to do to that amphibious landing ship with just one strike. Sank 1 and was even able to damage 2 nearby ships.
Brilliant entertainment Sir. As per usual you come thru with the Navel request an ting. Appreciated. Then I see the opening bombing run with the B2's, possible bombing missions in the future? Sir..
JDAMs are simple stupid bombs with an aimbot added. They blow a hole where they hit and hit where they are pointed, but they don't magically cause more damage than they would without the aimbot. But of cause the soldiers can aim where they expect it to hurt the most.
Yes they would be sitting ducks. A combination of US missiles and aircraft would over power Russia. The volume of fire would be so high and intense that it would over power Russia.
@@bighands69 As is the US Navy sitting ducks.. The US Navy and DC & Pentagon would be utterly destroyed if the US ever directly fires on Russia and it wouldn't matter who fired first. The US does not have the capability to shoot down Russia's high speed missiles.
They really don't, they started with next to nothing during the invasion, and are rapidly running out. Russia hasn't mobilized any of its S series into ukraine, my guess is they're scared to lose them. Russia can't replace their losses
They clearly not expecting an coordinated air attack - which seems like a good assumption, so far. Its possible the Ukranians might launch one if a landing is started, they might consider it to be worth a considerable fraction of their remaining air force to kill the troops while at sea.
Anyone remember how many ASMs needed to overwhelm the Slava's air defenses? I'm thinking this strike can be done with just conventional aircraft Come in low, pop up to launch the ASM's Or F-16's with ECM pods place and 2 2000lb GBU's each
Send in a couple of F-16's with Harms to cause the Slava more headaches... and if the Cold War had gone hot they would have used B-52's with Harpoons...
@@tsugumorihoney2288 By that logic a squad of B-2 Spirits with nukes will clear out the area and the city near it. As Each B-2 can hold 8 Nukes as intended. 4 in each bay. an they would just send B-52's each can hold 14. I mean they are cold war era planes. When it comes to Nukes Russia and the United States are like two brothers playing a close match of -Insert Sport Here- (Basketball). An they are both very good at it. Using Nukes kinda defeats the purpose.
@@TheSilverwolf1001 There's a general consensus of not using nukes as it's the equivalent of shooting the ball with a shotgun and walking away in a huff.
@@tsugumorihoney2288 If the war had gone nuclear or selective nuclear ie Nukes only used at sea you are correct but if we are talking conventional then it would be a case of the Slava seeing the B-52's approaching from 200 miles away and then they turn away around 80 miles... then it would be a case of man the lifeboats...
Hmm - what happed to low approach low drop? Will modern munitions not do that? (seems odd given what the RAF train for) Also where was your ECM support?
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Russian KH-47M2 vs Polish Air Force: ruclips.net/video/cnrVxqL5q9w/видео.html
Su-27 & Drone vs Snake Island: ruclips.net/video/T_oRoU2Ayfo/видео.html
Su-25s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: ruclips.net/video/ryV65bUJzrw/видео.html
NATO Eurofighters vs Crimean AWACS: ruclips.net/video/EiJ2dFRh95g/видео.html
Patriot, Gepard & Gripen vs KH-65: ruclips.net/video/ZhxdrNjig1g/видео.html
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Should have scrambled red after B2’s
Still. holding
Well apparently it only takes 2 Neptunes, a drone and maybe a convenient storm to actually sink a Slava.
Amazing.
@@grimreapers Can you make an updated video with the current circumstances? Awesome video!!! Just found your channel, you have a new fan :)
Storm was crucial in that story.
It wasnt a convenient storm, god hates the russians as well
😂
Cap a few weeks ago: “We don’t want to do anything related to the real world events”
Cap today: “Let’s sink their fleet lol”
Great vid as always folks!
this was a jab video because the "other" dcs youtubers haven't been respecting the same request that was made to Cap.
Haha true. Wondered how long the ceasefire would last!
@@blown533 It was a pointless request. Doubt RUclips care, and I'm sure some military Intel are actually interested in these sims.
Right, can't wait to see grim reapers footage on the news this week.
@@blown533 What is this "request" made by you tube?
After what we've seen in Ukraine, a couple of Turkish drones could take out the entire Russian Navy.
You must be proud lol
at this point, a drunk Russian sailor with a hammer could take out his own ship
@@Cydonius1, According to Putin that’s what happened…
@@Cydonius1 I still thing Slave just followed orders to "Fuck itself" ... a bit slow, but it got around to it.
Pretty sure a flock of seagulls could take out the Russian Navy. The actual birds or the 80's band will work at this point....
This was prophetic. The Slava (Moskva) did sink to a missile attack. Though with a lot less missiles than DCS required.
Real life shows how garbage the Russian military is. DCS overhypes their capabilities to an extreme extent
How do you know how many missiles were fired?
@@JAnx01 2. Tho big difference is this game has a basic hitpoint system as irl one hit to the ammo sotrage is enough to blow up the entire ship. As far as im aware ukraine used drones to distract the high power radar wich can only observe 180° and hit with 2 missikes as it only had a weaker 360° radar left
@@michagrill9432 I've sen reports saying 20 were fired and 2 made it through the defenses.
Yes I just scrolled back after watching this a week ago. Unreal.
I end up binge watching your videos, even the hour long ones. I don't know what it is about your videos that keeps me glued to the screen for hours. Keep it up
The excellent content provided to us by the glorious Cap of course!
They're fun!
Same here
same...find them interesting
I have the same problem I think it's his accent and his pompous nature which got me stuck on watching all of his videos.
Now that the Cruiser is really sunk, the rest of the Black Sea fleet has had to disperse. In your simulation it took 64 bombs to take out the cruiser, taking into account what it could track and shoot down. In reality the Ukrainians "distracted" the crew of the Moskva with a few drones and took it out with only TWO Neptune missiles.
From the image which supposedly shows it after the attack and before it went down, it looks like it didn't even try to engage the missiles launched at it.
Granted that the sim overkilled the cruiser by something like 18+ bombs more than needed.
@@c128stuff it does look likely they had a malfunction on their missile doors. They got hit and had an internal explosion.
@@c128stuff if you haven't go watch Lazerpig's video on the Moskva. It was a pile of scraps by the time it left the harbor.
This shows the importance of assigning targets. It would also have been wise to use some of the B2 ordnance on the whole fleet, not just the Cruiser.
This thing really needs a debriefing.and a redo imho. They shouldn't have lost the F22
@@metatechnologist Also realistically, for air cover, anything less than 2 F22 and 2 F15's wouldn't make sense for such a big strike force. And obviously the simulation should be done at night. No one would send B2's for a strike during the day time. Also the B2's should be spread out during the attack, as otherwise, just from the bombs radar tracking info it would be very easy to send fighters in the right area after they dropped the bombs, and even potentially loosing those B2's would be a bad deal.
It would also make more sense to hit the main ship with a couple jasm-er from even an F-16, and instead of the B-2's you could then use plain old B-52's to rain bombs on the rest of the fleet.
Negative...the concentration on the cruiser was precisely how it should've been handled. IF that cruiser made it, this flight would not have and those landing craft would be hitting the beach
@@TheMerlinmk19 agree... but reality turns out to be you didn't need B2s, or anything big and expensive to take out that cruiser, just a bunch of relatively cheap surface skimming anti-ship missiles.
@@c128stuff the videos of Ulrainian farmers towing Rusky tanks away comes to mind😁
"We weren't going to attack Russia but the powers at be annoyed us".
Yeah....I think Ukraine just had the exact same thought.
Typical Brit understatement. Love it!
One version of events is that the Bayraktars were distracting the Moskva cruiser while two anti-ship missiles hit. An alternative theory which I have heard is that the Neptune missiles drew the attention of the ship's countermeasures since that's the sort of attack they would know how to defend. The TB2s were supposedly just for targeting, but in fact they could also have dropped bombs that hit the on-deck munitions, setting off the explosions. The cruiser has good defences against large missiles but might not have anything against the little bombs that the TB2s can drop.
A good clue that this alternative theory could be true is if the Ukrainians never release any drone video footage of what actually happened.
Interesting.
@@douglassmith1215 Why would they release footage? That would give away their tactics
There appears to be an image of the cruiser after it was hit and before it sunk. That image suggests 2 or maybe 3 hits on the side of the ship near the center, and at least no long range anti missile defenses having been active, which seems consistent with the missiles + distraction and/or adverse weather conditions theory.
@@c128stuff Both long-range and short-range missiles seem not be have been deployed.
As of 4/14/22, The Ukrainians sunk that very same missile cruiser with a handful of antiship missiles, which leads me to believe they watched your video and studied it and implemented your strategies. Well done Grim Reaper’s!
we sunk exactly the same cruiser
Yeah hope so. Lol. Let us see even more orc ships buuurn.
Finally! Never let the "powers-that-be" dictate the art. Never.
Can we get an "A-10s released" onto the long Russian convoy; you know you want to see it.
Some A-10s, an AC-135 and a pair of F-35s would probably handle that nicely.
Based on their performance in the conflict so far, I hope those flankers were set to a low AI skill level.
The Moskva sank as well haha 😂
Coming back to this to absolutely laugh at the news that the Slava-class Moskva was badly damaged and abandoned today after being hit by a Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missile.
Your hypothetical mission was fun to watch, and I just had to verify it was the Moskva here as well.
Yes it was Moskva.
Fun fact: _Moskva_ was the lead ship of the whole class, but they changed her name after the USSR went to the past tense. God only knows why, _Glory_ is an excellent name for a cruiser.
@@PhoenixT70 Because they retired the Moskva (lead ship of a helicopter carrier class), and they didn't want to not have a ship in the fleet named after Moscow, so they renamed Slava. And I agree, Slava/Glory is a pretty awesome name.
@@NozomuYume She just sank... goodbye Moskva!
@@NozomuYume According to naval traditions, it's bad luck to rename a ship.
2 B2's would've destroyed that entire force by themselves if they spread out their payloads evenly 😂
Erik, you fuckin lying.
Not 2. They’ve used a very low amount of missile interceptors in the war.
I’d target 8 JSOWs at the Slava and 2 each at the larger surface ships AFTER the other B-2s targeted the fleet with 100+ SDB and AFTER the fighters then engaged with their HARMs and MALD decoys.
@@AirRider44 you talk like as if the Russians would be sitting there doing nothing, believe me, NATO air force bases would be targeted.
@@wamnicho ooooh so scary 😂
„One slava class cruiser…“ 😂
I hear that ship has been renamed to “snake island memorial reef”
Is the Growler modeled in DCS? I wonder how effective they’d be in jamming the ships radar?
it is not. there is more and more electronic warfare being implemented in dcs, byt the ea-18 is waaaay too classified to ever be a thing
@@tituslaronius Not even sure if they will model the EA-6A which was last used in the 1970's.
Turns out creative use of cheap technology was all that was needed to distract it, and kill it with a few subsonic missiles.
Honestly if the B-2 salvo would've targeted each ship, you would've just had to clean up the rest with the fighter element no problem. Great strike, great video!
Slava Ukraini!
В срало урине
2 B2s would of focused the corvette, once they fired enoungh to draw off the corvette the others hit each landing ship with 2 each then dump the reast in the covrvette as the corvette is the threat
The issue is warships can recover from a hit or two... a salvo not so much
Imagine thinking you're a good person citing a term used by Stepan Banderas' organization which was responsible for the rape, torture, dismemberment and immolation of 50,000-100,000 Polish people, most of which were women and children.
You are the prime-example of the power Western-Media has in manipulating people into supporting outright egregious-causes on behalf of the special-interests which run their organizations.
agree but wanted to give the human drivers something to do.
One B52 with 12 Harpoon anti ship missiles would have done the trick.
Nice video, as most of the time..."leader of the pack", as most of the time: more enthusiasm, than competence, paired with realistic cowardness and humor ;) As long as "Cortana" (and others) help them, it seems, that they reach their targets. ;) Mixture of "Little Britain", Monty Python (just a flesh wound) and "serious" simulation. I love Grim Reapers! (strictly platonic!)
Type 45’s can track *thousands* of targets at once. It can engage a couple dozen at once.
Western technology is the best
Kortana Cam looks like the game F-22 Retaliator from 1990.
Entertaining stuff!
The 35 can actually carry 1xAMRAAM and 1x2KLb bomb internally as well
thx doesn't work in game.
@@grimreapers I figured. Just dropping some irl info since I built them for 3 years. If yall have any questions about them I'd be more than happy to help!
@@WillM38 does F-35 have radar jamming capabilities?
@@vladimirivanov8743 Yes. It can actually jam, run TWS, and SAR ground radar imaging all at once.
Thanks and great vid! Too many aircrafts lost against a cheaper Russian fleet though, quite not the American way of operating hehe. Their way is “fight unfair: if enemy bring guns, we’ll bring tanks” to minimize casualties. Those fighters would have been mostly composed of F35’s and some raptors for air protection. Cheers! 😉
And raptors would be flying above to intercept any migs that come their way in addition to a much more overwhelming fighter and bomber strike.
Yeah our model is honestly overwhelming force and power. We dont fight fair in power. We rather throw money then lives.
@@kelvinw.1384 exactly! It will be a very bad day even losing just one American personnel in the battlefield. Also financially, one American pilot or soldier killed will cost the army more (in terms of training and opportunity costs) than losing one machine. Experience and skills are more expensive to lose than material equipment.
War is not about fighting fair, it's about winning with minimum loses to your own side as possible.
@@kelvinw.1384 Why fight fair when you can fight dirty and win?
I just watched this video yesterday afternoon. Then the news broke out during night that the Moskva cruiser was hit. They didn’t even need those B2s for that. So it seems now it’s free reign over the Black Sea for air forces.
You should start adding links to your other channel mate, make it easier for people to find it. Great content, appreciate the work you put in
Link is in Vid description and end vid links. Not sure where else I can put them? ruclips.net/channel/UCZzvHfFzIpMrvgAbgZDUX9A
I've got COVID and this channel has been my salvation, thanks guys
Get well soon!
I don’t have a gaming pc so I don’t play this game but I’ve found myself watching your videos I love the big battles
Funny how the video is much more watchable with the sound muted.
If they did this I would love to pull up a beach chair and watch the show. Also Scott should be known as "The Purple people eater"
Video idea: Plausible deniability involvement in the war. Could a stealth aircraft destroy the Kersh straight bridge and remain undetected from the Russians.
Sink them with a bunch of submarines.
No they have digital VHF NEBO-M radars in crimea alongside the S400s powerful ASEA radars so no, they would take out the F35s for fun.
@@John-hu9qg Is that what Russia claim? Cos... I'm a little doubtful of Russia's claims these days.
@@Bobbydyland tested in Syria vs F35s
@@John-hu9qg Citation needed.
Kortana the absolute chad she is flying in VR
Everytime time I hear Cap say: " Get Some", I think of Duke Nukem.
Shake it baby!
Awesome!!! So glad you guys are doing this.
Judging from the Russian army’s performance a WW1 Air Force could defeat them.
Ron, that goes for America as well,, the reason y Russia seems like they perform badly depends on who telling the news. furthermore Russia did not sanstion Ukraine for 12 years before they invaded, they did not put a no fly zone, they did not send in so called weapons inspectors to see what they were up against, the Russians dive in head first by themselves no Allies. America would flatten the hole country before putting one soldier on the ground. As for levensky he would not be running around asking for weapons he would be hiding, in jail, or dead.The Russians are nice.😁
@@evan6034 🦧🍌
@@SineMacula real talk
So you're saying that the difference between America and Russia is that Russia actually sends soldiers in to commit the war crimes personally. Wow, that's so much better
@@campbell9825 if you could read you would know exactly what I said, but you have to try to sound “educated” and inject your interpretation of what others actually wrote, get a life!
Dudes! The Moskva (only dangerous ship) just "exploded" a few hours ago. No airstrike required. Seriously WTF?! The Russians are saying that a fire started onboard igniting ammo.
wow!
The slava cruiser is that the Moskva? You can scratch that one now for sure 😝
Yes it is/was the Moskva.
Two Neptune missiles: "Hold my beer."
lol
How topical. Good job guys, and thanks for the laughs as always.
23:24 when the first missile clips the stabilizer and you think "that was clo....BOOM" lol
Glad to see modern naval ships in Wargames again!
Haha . Had the doom soundtrack kick off as you and the lads started dropping bombs was a great little montage :P
In reality it seems it didn't require 4 B52s, but a few Brave Ukrainians to sink the Moskva.
Always the way...
@@grimreapers haha 😊 I'm glad I found your channel I really like your videos
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Now, Sevastopol. But include the S-400. Attempt to eliminate the entire fleet in one pass.
Savage
I really hope you still don’t think the S-400 is some magic system. Even going off of Russian manufacturers numbers, they are only going to get a firing solution at 40-50km or so on American 5th gens. American 5th gens that will be carrying ARM with upwards of 100nmi ranges.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 No, just want to simulate an attack on Sevastopol as accurately as possible. Since the 2014 Crimean attack was due to Russia’s attempt to maintain Sevastopol, it would be interesting to see if Ukraine could eliminate Sevastopol’s entire fleet, and thus the reason for the original conflict. If Russia no longer needs Sevastopol, why would they continue fighting?
Will you do a TRAKTOR ATTACK episode?
yes
An amphibious ready group (ARG), led by an LPH flat-top and accompanied by an attack submarine could do it. Note that (1) an LPH can carry a number of F-35 VSTOL aircraft, (2) the ARG consists of 6 or more USN ships, and (3) attack submarines can carry both torpedoes and missile systems now.
FINALLY! One I can watch under 30 minutes.
*Question:* Kortana, what is your nationality? I can't detect an accent ( of course you do not have to answer ) 🙂
And nice work guys, but I wonder if in reality we ( the USA ) would of relied more heavily on F35's, F22's and B1's? ( meaning it would've been an all stealth attack )
funny, I always thought she sonded american, from like GA or SC
@@cockatoo010 I think American as well ...
Sounds American to me.
@@TeenTeenFpv 😆
My guess....Mid-West, U.S.
Seems that B2s are a bit of overkill to take out a RU cruiser. A couple subsonic cruise missiles can do the trick.
agree
Russian fighters should have been spawned and started heading towards you the moment the B2's got detected
And the ships would be moving wich would give gps a harder challenge.
B2's are not detected much, that is the point. As aircraft they suck, flying wings are terribad.
Ships that have powered down their engines don't spool them up that fast and even when they do get them up and running, they don't accelerate quickly
@@pogo1140 It was basically a setup for an easy raid. Fun to watch though everyone needs to blow some steam off sometimes
The B2s were never detected, the Moskva didn't go active until the bombs were in the air as the bombs have a bigger RCS than the B2s.
jeah early warning radars dont give a f about stealth , also there are land stationed SAMs in the area, plus i think the cruiser in question had recived and updated air defense system .
BB in the 22 be like “shoot” “shoot” as in “fuck” “fuck”😂
Why not a bunch of F15s with JASSMs ? Maybe put some F16 wild weasels ahead to deal with the AA first. Seems a lot cheaper than B2s
Idk how I found this channel, never watched a gaming video but damn do I want to play this.
What is it?
Haven’t gamed in 20 years 😂
And where is the air cover for the landing operation from air bases in the Crimea and mainland Russia? Where is Russian Air Force & Black Sea Fleet Naval Aviation?:)
Ukraine shot them down.
Being used as tractors in Ukraine? Sold to finance some yacht? Gambled away in a vodka cloud? Sabotaged by their own? Anything is possible.
@@hepphepps8356 They were sent straight to hell via TLAM strike before hand.
@@hepphepps8356 It's funny you reference corruption in regards to Russia, while omitting the fact that according to the Panama Papers, Ukraine's own Poreshenko and Zelensky were both included in the leaks, utilizing secretive offshore accounts to hide their financial activities from the masses. Then just two weeks ago they found an ex-member of Ukraine's government, who fled the country, with $30,000,000 shoved away in his luggage.
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Welcome Brad.
Wouldn't a 2,000 pound JDAM blow those landing ships in half? I heard those things can bring down tall buildings by blowing out their structural supports.
If the landing ships are full of munitions, pretty much anything can take them out if they can set off secondary explosions.
@@NozomuYume
Modern carriers cannot be sunk with a single blow.
agree
@@bighands69 But those weren't carriers, they were troop transports.
@@bighands69 Landing ships most certainly can, if you set off the munitions in the cargo. Unless you meant aircraft carriers, which these are not. They're ships designed to transport troops, tanks, ammunition, etc. to the shore directly. They can beach themselves and then a door opens in the front letting all the assets be unloaded directly onto the beach.
Hey, Putin. I see you got a slava cruiser down there with you.
Putin: Yeah, that's right. We got a whole...
Hey, Putin. That slava cruiser's not with you anymore.
This was awesome, but could you do a similar scenario using only assets that Ukraine has? See if it would be theoretically possible to pull it off with their older tech and aircraft?
They already simmed that IRL, the answer is yes
We no longer need a simulation for that... Cruiser has been promoted to submarine by a couple Ukrainian missiles.
What made you decide to say screw the powers that be? Whatever it is, I love it!
The guys who make the game have pissed me off so just going to do what ever I want from now on.
@@grimreapers stick it to them, cap!
The RL Moskva was seriously damaged today by something.
The Ukrainians claimed to have hit it with two missiles from a hidden Neptune missile battery. The Russians say it was a fire onboard that set off some ammunition.
So, if it is now inoperable, is the rest of the Black Sea Fleet now vulnerable to high altitude air strikes like you folks demonstrated?
ironic - 30 missiles cant sink a DCS fleet. In reality, all it took was 2. Shows the innaccuracy of DCS when it comes to missiles and spotting stuff. This is probably the first recorded anti ship operation in modern history where two equals (in tech) met. Pentagon and everyone else in navy ops are now scared shitless as it proves that they all rely on theory of anti missile systems and radars.. and it failed in reality. One thing to be out in open sea with no civilians but in a small area like the black sea with outside interference a anti ship missile is way more effective then previous thought.
@@jmkhenka Maybe you have more up to date info than I do...but those particular missiles are subsonic and have small warheads. They shouldn't have been able to close with a guided missile cruiser, much less seriously damage it. However, if it was operating too close to shore, or the crew didn't react to the threat competently, or if that ship had design flaws that meant that it really can't take hits, then those could have all been factors...and none of us would be surprised by any of those factors given what we've already seen of the Russian military during this conflict.
Regardless, Turkey had closed the entrance to the Black Sea to all warships, so if they can't repair that cruiser and put it back into service, then there likely won't be another to replace her within the scope of this conflict.
Edit: Also, I don't believe for a second that anything can damage that ship enough to require evacuation...and yet not kill anyone on board. That's just silly.
Yeh, ships are so fragile IRL. Just one hit can kill. Same with British frigates in Falklands.
Are the AGM-158s modeled/modded in DCS? they would be perfect for this
Nearest we have is AGM-86
Hm, wouldn't the ruskies have S-400 coverage in the area?
@@TeenTeenFpv The S-400 has a maximum effective range of 400 km. Crimea is 180km from the location of the fleet, according to his in-game map. It's also a known fact that Russia has had S-400 missile systems in Crimea for quite some time.
I didn;t think it reached Odessa? Current coverage.
Only if you could get every sailor and officer to sneeze at once. Which would be a SNAFU. So Yes
Cap looks suspiciously headless... otherwise a great show!
No head means no contract assassin can headshot him.
Why are there no sm6's and sm3 in your videos? Not modeled in DCS?
No idea TBH
Well done Cap! Love how you threw caution to the wind and got on with a video about current affairs. Keep up the good work.
See you at RIAT?
Yes I've booked tickets for the Saturday.
@@grimreapers gutted… we are there Sunday. Maybe next year Cap!
Instead of a million B-2s it actually only took one subsonic boi lol
All it took to sink Moskva was a surface to surface missile and some bad weather! Goodbye Moskva! Official Russian Sources reporting that Moskva has sank!
wow
Type 45 PAAMS system is able to track over 2,000 targets...
and of course the CIWIS ignored the missiles
@SubtoPolecat324 it might have stopped enough to keep the ship alive longer
Will DCS update with the latest and greatest anti ship missiles?
They only add assets (including most munitions) once they have pretty solid sources on their actual performance capabilities and success rate. Although, it must be said that munitions capability are some of the most debatable aspects of DCS, as all air-to-air missile ranges and in-flight velocity parameters are classified by their respective countries.
Imagine being a Mig/SU pilot.....flying to provide interception, with nothing on your scope...and then....you get a warning that an AMRAMM has locked onto you from about 15 miles away....and your radar STILL doesn't show any plane... and THEN YOU REALIZE there are F22's close by!!!
Just eject out at that point.. I'd be shitting my pants if i see a fleet of f22s and f35s coming my way
@@dwyderdom GOOD strategy.
@@dwyderdom But you would never see them....at night or maybe not at all ever
Mig/SU got Optical Location Station. which can see enemy aircrafts up to 90 km, also Russia got pretty good antielectronic warfare
Imagine being us citizen and than radioactive dust. How funny is that? 😁
All you need is a Turkish drone and 6 tractor's
Lolll
Someone needs to make some tractor mods for Combined Arms
This might be a silly question but why is the cockpit on the f35 different than it should be?
Plane not finished in game
@@grimreapers ok then, thanks guys/gals
18:38 Missile: "Its time to Destroy this ship"
Ship: "Invisible Mode Activated!" *goes right through the ship*
Me : "OMG ITS A GHOST SHIP!"
Shut up 🤦♂️
Hi guys
What’s the game simulator called please?
If you ask this question to me 6 weeks ago I would most likely no, ask this to me today and I say the US would totally wipe out the Russian Norther Fleet; easily.
What simulator game is this and what platforms it work on all ? Including ps2 ?
Hell yeah, official "fuck it" levels achieved
yup
17:23 Can someone please show Kortana how to record the monitor feed and not the headset feed of her VR setup please. The componsated Field of view on the headset looks wierd on a regular screen.
I was having technical difficulties Friday, sorry the footage wasn't up to par 😕
Doesn't this assume that Russian forces would be competent?
Why is the F-35s cockpit the Mig-29 or SU-33 cockpit?
A very rewarding mission. Everyone except for Cap was strangely quiet other than during the discussion on the Grumpovitch family tree. Strangely no discussion of Yuri and Leonid Grumpovitch those well known blackguards of the Grumpovitch clan. Next time maybe?
Roger Mark, you can tell when the boys are concentrating...
Great vid. This was more exciting than the Top Gun action sequences and the attack on the death star in Star Wars!
Kortana's VR view looked weird! More bombing runs please :)
Kortana was running CAP so the bombing runs could happen.
Technical difficulties 😅. Thankfully I was able to resolve them today.
@@KortanaDCS So glad! I was worried it was my eyes for a moment ;)
Finally! These are the best videos
No way would it take nearly that many hits to kill a Russian heavy cruiser. When you pack a ship with as many missiles as it can possibly carry you're basically a floating bomb. Just one of those munitions gets hit and the ship is done. Hell look what the Ukrainians were able to do to that amphibious landing ship with just one strike. Sank 1 and was even able to damage 2 nearby ships.
You, sir, have been proven right. Long live the Neptunes!
Don’t need to worry about the Slava anymore.
Yup, she is gone.
Next Video should be titled "Could a US Battlegroup beat a russian ICBM-attack on the US-Carrier group in the mediterranean sea?"
I would if I could simulate ICBM in game...
Brilliant entertainment Sir. As per usual you come thru with the Navel request an ting. Appreciated. Then I see the opening bombing run with the B2's, possible bombing missions in the future? Sir..
You'll hopefully enjoy the next one.... and ting.
Game's damage model is off. Those JDAMs should be causing catastrophic damage.
JDAMs are simple stupid bombs with an aimbot added. They blow a hole where they hit and hit where they are pointed, but they don't magically cause more damage than they would without the aimbot. But of cause the soldiers can aim where they expect it to hurt the most.
agree
Should be easy. The Russian Black Sea fleet could fuck up a cup of coffee.
I think the Russians would have more air and anti air defence. You've basically modelled them as sitting ducks, minus the one.
Yes they would be sitting ducks. A combination of US missiles and aircraft would over power Russia.
The volume of fire would be so high and intense that it would over power Russia.
@@bighands69 As is the US Navy sitting ducks.. The US Navy and DC & Pentagon would be utterly destroyed if the US ever directly fires on Russia and it wouldn't matter who fired first. The US does not have the capability to shoot down Russia's high speed missiles.
They really don't, they started with next to nothing during the invasion, and are rapidly running out. Russia hasn't mobilized any of its S series into ukraine, my guess is they're scared to lose them. Russia can't replace their losses
They clearly not expecting an coordinated air attack - which seems like a good assumption, so far. Its possible the Ukranians might launch one if a landing is started, they might consider it to be worth a considerable fraction of their remaining air force to kill the troops while at sea.
Why does your f35 have what looks like a mig or sukoi cockpit?
Anyone remember how many ASMs needed to overwhelm the Slava's air defenses?
I'm thinking this strike can be done with just conventional aircraft
Come in low, pop up to launch the ASM's
Or F-16's with ECM pods place and 2 2000lb GBU's each
Send in a couple of F-16's with Harms to cause the Slava more headaches... and if the Cold War had gone hot they would have used B-52's with Harpoons...
@@hmmjedi imagine slava will use SAM with nuclear warhead and clear out all sward with 1 projectile
@@tsugumorihoney2288 By that logic a squad of B-2 Spirits with nukes will clear out the area and the city near it. As Each B-2 can hold 8 Nukes as intended. 4 in each bay. an they would just send B-52's each can hold 14. I mean they are cold war era planes. When it comes to Nukes Russia and the United States are like two brothers playing a close match of -Insert Sport Here- (Basketball). An they are both very good at it. Using Nukes kinda defeats the purpose.
@@TheSilverwolf1001 There's a general consensus of not using nukes as it's the equivalent of shooting the ball with a shotgun and walking away in a huff.
@@tsugumorihoney2288 If the war had gone nuclear or selective nuclear ie Nukes only used at sea you are correct but if we are talking conventional then it would be a case of the Slava seeing the B-52's approaching from 200 miles away and then they turn away around 80 miles... then it would be a case of man the lifeboats...
Mmmmmmm........ that image of a sinking Russian Slava Class looks familiar but I can't think where from 🤔
Haha wish I could do the Back to the future part 2 meme . "This is strangely familiar ."
2 weeks and 2 Neptunes later - this video looks obsolete
Hmm - what happed to low approach low drop? Will modern munitions not do that? (seems odd given what the RAF train for) Also where was your ECM support?
6:16 😂
21:56 getting shot down by "dead" ships lol you actually made it harder on yourselves😆👍