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  • After round one of our 2024 Toyota LandCruiser 70-series drag race, we have both rigs back for a loaded up GVM test. Who will come out on top this time? Special thanks to the team at ‪@AutoInnovationCentre‬
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  • @fullboost
    @fullboost  6 месяцев назад +12

    After round one of our 2024 Toyota LandCruiser 70-series drag race, we have both rigs back for a loaded up GVM test. Who will come out on top this time? Special thanks to the team at @AutoInnovationCentre. *Get your track gear!* 👉 shop.fullboost.com.au | If you’d like to be notified every time we upload a video, subscribe and then click the bell icon 🔔 next to the subscription button.

    • @7071t6
      @7071t6 6 месяцев назад +1

      It all comes down to the auto and diff gear set, what has the v8 got as far as diff gears ,what are the ratios, put 4:11's in the v8 and it will then win for sure IMHO. ✌👌👍🦘

    • @nvvf422
      @nvvf422 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@7071t6flog lol

    • @Mosesk1988
      @Mosesk1988 6 месяцев назад +4

      Gona hurt some fannys today 😂😂

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 6 месяцев назад

      Sand in the gouch

    • @dionisaacson2977
      @dionisaacson2977 6 месяцев назад

      The V8 beard strokers surely have to admit to the facts not rhetoric and mythology of this tired power unit at some stage

  • @david32gtr87
    @david32gtr87 6 месяцев назад +120

    I'm going to have a few beers and then come back to read the comments again lol

  • @majinsaiyan8255
    @majinsaiyan8255 6 месяцев назад +95

    I own a V8 and i’m not salty at all.. I didn’t buy the bloody thing to drag haha.. as long as the 2.8l carries on the 70 series durability legacy with pride i’m all for it! Thanks for the review

    • @TAI-lr5vr
      @TAI-lr5vr 6 месяцев назад +12

      People often forget the 1st Gen Bundera was a 2.4L 4 cylinder diesel. People keep forgetting the past and focus on the present

    • @billybunter3753
      @billybunter3753 6 месяцев назад +7

      They're both good. It's just that now the 4 pot is the pick if you're looking at buying a new one.

    • @TAI-lr5vr
      @TAI-lr5vr 6 месяцев назад +2

      @mohammadkabli5258 i think it's worth it. Though if you want the 1GR there is an all new automatic option

    • @purebloodnordicroamer7955
      @purebloodnordicroamer7955 6 месяцев назад +1

      That’s a sensible comment.

    • @scottstirling8047
      @scottstirling8047 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@TAI-lr5vrthey were also a gm motori / fiat motor in them.

  • @vaughanscott7308
    @vaughanscott7308 6 месяцев назад +23

    The absolute most thorough and professional toyota landcruiser review on the net. Well done guys very much appreciated.

  • @gregsmith3366
    @gregsmith3366 6 месяцев назад +16

    I had a hi lux with the 2.8 had a constant 700 kg (upgraded suspension) and regular 3ton towing and it didn’t miss a beat
    Sold it with 200km for the same money I payed 💪🤔

  • @andrewntoth1
    @andrewntoth1 6 месяцев назад +37

    Still trying to work out why anyone would buy either at this point (for the price) 😳

    • @trianggaindralukmana2184
      @trianggaindralukmana2184 6 месяцев назад +1

      Actually toyota didnt offer it to people. People bought it from toyota. Most of 70 series bought by government or mining company

    • @aaronrowe6297
      @aaronrowe6297 6 месяцев назад +4

      Resale value, capability, reliability are why they are extremely popular.

    • @2burning2turning
      @2burning2turning 6 месяцев назад

      @@aaronrowe6297don’t forget wank factor.

    • @Bizzo1289
      @Bizzo1289 5 месяцев назад

      Better off buying a hilux, cheaper car and way more comfortable and refined.

    • @waynejohnston4648
      @waynejohnston4648 4 месяца назад +1

      That is a very good point.

  • @nick_sta
    @nick_sta 6 месяцев назад +19

    Can we see an AU falcon ute with similar weight in the back versus the V8 cruiser

    • @oldbloke100
      @oldbloke100 6 месяцев назад +1

      or my 2lt ranger would absolutely smoke it.

    • @CHINGY1993
      @CHINGY1993 6 месяцев назад

      Hope we see this soon lol

    • @XR_Martin
      @XR_Martin 6 месяцев назад +1

      An XF ute would out drag it.

  • @montfortprincemanyozo7967
    @montfortprincemanyozo7967 6 месяцев назад +66

    long story short, Toyota knows what it is doing.

    • @Jacobtheunwise
      @Jacobtheunwise 6 месяцев назад +12

      Yep they know how to rip you off. Imagine paying 100k for a landcruiser with a hilux sex change

    • @alexjohnward
      @alexjohnward 6 месяцев назад +7

      We won't know until they are run in, at 400,000ks

    • @effigy42
      @effigy42 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@alexjohnwardhilux’s new diesels are absolutely obliterated at that distance

    • @brettchattaway5242
      @brettchattaway5242 6 месяцев назад +1

      Agreed mate , they make a good car , I had a 75 series troopy 13 years , l loved it , never let me down, now have a 150 Prado had 10 years, love it more and has never let me down, you can go remote confidently , it’s like buying a $500 fridge to go remote, get the Engel instead to avoid the hassles , my 3.0lt has done 410,000

    • @daniel-it2lw
      @daniel-it2lw 6 месяцев назад

      @@Jacobtheunwise raptor money lol

  • @Tedkelvin
    @Tedkelvin 6 месяцев назад +6

    if only a modular straight 6 version of the 2.8 existed in the 70series as a 240hp variant... then the legend of the 4.2 would continue to eternity. this is and will always be remake of a 90's Prado 70 series...

  • @JLM85_
    @JLM85_ 6 месяцев назад +19

    So many salty V8 owners. Cry is free and VDJunk is a boat anchor.

    • @phalanx3803
      @phalanx3803 6 месяцев назад +4

      and a fuel hog. even ECO tuned to the point there more gutless than a 1HZ they eat far to much fuel. got a 105 with a stock 1HZ and it does 12 best ive seen a VDJ do is 15. IMO bring back the 1HD-FTE with modern improvements give us the option to buy it as a create engine and it will sell faster then hotcakes on a cold winter morning.

  • @motorsportfreak1
    @motorsportfreak1 6 месяцев назад +6

    According to Toyota own words, the 2.8 “equals or exceeds the torque of the 4.5 V8 from 1400-3400rpm”.
    That might be difficult for people to understand when they see that the 2.8 peak torque of 500nm is listed as 1600-2800rpm.
    But note the word peak. So when it’s not at its peak (under the curve) 500nm at 1600-2800rpm. It may be at 430nm at say 1400rpm, thus equals the peak torque of the V8 and exceeding 1450rpm all the way to 2800rpm.
    Also note Toyota state the 2.8 makes 150kW between 3000rpm to 3400rpm. The V8 is strictly at 3400rpm.

  • @ynerdem
    @ynerdem 6 месяцев назад +11

    26 Dec - 3 V8 cruisers found on Carsales
    27 Dec - 100+ V8 Cruisers found on Carsales

  • @Ebocraze
    @Ebocraze 6 месяцев назад +8

    I'm about to retire and I am retiring with a V8. The young uns can soldier on with the 4 cylinder and the electric version whenever it comes out 😄

  • @paulboon1100
    @paulboon1100 6 месяцев назад +10

    Everybody should know by now that the V8 is a very much detuned version of the V8 in the 200 series. It was never meant to be fast but it was meant to be reliable in the mines,(thats one main reason the 70 series still exists) farms etc. in a time when fuel didnt cost $2 or more. Its a farm truck, who cares how fast it is or isnt as long as it gets the job done for a long time.
    We'll see how the 4 cylinder goes over time?

    • @billybunter3753
      @billybunter3753 6 месяцев назад +3

      It's a Toyota, it'll be fine.

    • @juliangraziani7299
      @juliangraziani7299 6 месяцев назад +8

      Not that the 1VD was particularly reliable...

    • @mattw1393
      @mattw1393 6 месяцев назад +3

      ⁠@@juliangraziani7299glad someone said it. When the 1vd came out they drank oil and everyone hated on them. Now they’re a classic. 🙄

    • @audoinxr6372
      @audoinxr6372 6 месяцев назад +3

      "Lets see the 4cyl at 200,000kms"
      Looks at all the higher km 2016+Hilux and prados on the road still 🤔

    • @bubbaC501
      @bubbaC501 5 месяцев назад

      Reliable in the mines?!?!?!?? Is that why they're bring in N/A 4.2L Cruisers (yes 1HD's) from India and South Africa to use in the mines... the V8's are dog shit in the mines, trust me from experience...

  • @michaelgleeson1198
    @michaelgleeson1198 6 месяцев назад +49

    Well nothing like doubling down on the Landcruiser content and the somewhat salty V8 owners are coming thick and fast to defend their beloved V8 that's more than 13 years old. Now to wait for the next episode of Bench Torque.

    • @jrburger95
      @jrburger95 6 месяцев назад

      If you want a diesel V8 you go to Ford, GMC or Scania, Toyota obviously don't know what they're doing with theirs.

    • @michaelgleeson1198
      @michaelgleeson1198 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@jrburger95 From what I understand Toyota will dump the V8 soon and most likely go to the twin turbo V6 that's in the Landcruiser wagon. Toyota isn't going to spend any coin on the V8 that's very clear.

    • @MegaHannaz
      @MegaHannaz 6 месяцев назад

      *16 years old and counting

  • @southerndiy1
    @southerndiy1 6 месяцев назад +12

    In b4 angry V8 fans 🔥

  • @somanysevens
    @somanysevens 6 месяцев назад +8

    I just enjoy paying more rego, more fuel and listening to the sweet sweet sound of a diesel V8.

    • @Daniel-dg3np
      @Daniel-dg3np 6 месяцев назад +4

      It's every bit as glorious as the V8 Dyson stick.

    • @nicktaylor5281
      @nicktaylor5281 6 месяцев назад

      @@Daniel-dg3npor a pair of thongs slapping away 🩴

    • @shreckm6470
      @shreckm6470 6 месяцев назад

      Unless you have a DPF.

  • @onedayiwillmakesomecontent
    @onedayiwillmakesomecontent 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love how all the ballast was sliding to the back in the V8 cruiser (great actual term for it!) Giving it extra grip off the line, and fanbois be like "it spun!" 😂.

  • @aykuthasbahce
    @aykuthasbahce 6 месяцев назад +14

    I wish they did 6 cylinders.

    • @bvward
      @bvward 6 месяцев назад +4

      Barra diesel? ☺

    • @aykuthasbahce
      @aykuthasbahce 5 месяцев назад

      not reliable enough @@bvward

  • @bigal878
    @bigal878 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great job 👍

  • @DeejayManii
    @DeejayManii 6 месяцев назад +12

    i think peoples biggest issue with the swap of engine is the reliability of a 4 cyl so highly strung as apposed to a v8 running at 50% duty cycle

    • @Danger_mouse
      @Danger_mouse 5 месяцев назад

      Can't be any worse than the V8 killing the injectors, or the oil pan corroding through, or the valley mounted starter failing and spending a day changing it...
      Enjoy the drive while the 4cyl runs to 200k, then worry about it after that. 👍

    • @DeejayManii
      @DeejayManii 5 месяцев назад

      what colour is your 79? @@Danger_mouse

    • @Danger_mouse
      @Danger_mouse 5 месяцев назад

      @@DeejayManii
      Most of them are white, but we have a few imported LHD 6cyl ones that are Taliban Tan.
      Likely among the biggest fleets in Australia 👍

    • @DeejayManii
      @DeejayManii 5 месяцев назад

      @@Danger_mouse “we” ok mate.

    • @Danger_mouse
      @Danger_mouse 5 месяцев назад

      @@DeejayManii
      Was there anywhere in my original comment where I stated 'I'?
      Doesn't change what I posted.
      The facts are that nearly every other 1t ute sold in Australia makes the same power, and more torque than the 4.5 V8 with half the fuel usage.
      Most of them are also reliable. Toyota has done a good thing to finally move with the times and fit the more sensible engine option.
      We don't have any trouble with Hiluxes and Prados in the fleet.

  • @mahcooharper9577
    @mahcooharper9577 6 месяцев назад +15

    Gonna get some rage on this one, but I'm glad you put it out haha...
    And I'd still have the manual V8 even tho it's slower and wastes fuel. Just because.

    • @billybunter3753
      @billybunter3753 6 месяцев назад

      And there it is, I'd take the 4 pot, but it's a bonus to even have a choice!

  • @chrisandshazza01
    @chrisandshazza01 6 месяцев назад +2

    We lived in the 79 V8’s in NW WA. Wouldn’t buy the V8 but I’d look at this auto 4cyl.

  • @Ktmfan450
    @Ktmfan450 6 месяцев назад +28

    If people watch this video they might accidentally buy the better vehicle

  • @garrygraham7901
    @garrygraham7901 6 месяцев назад +2

    I am always in awe of what AIC does with those brand new vehicles!
    This was a brilliant test and bodes well for the 1GD motor, which after nearly 10 years of production, is proving to be a solid unit that can take power upgrades really well. I reckon it will eventually replace the 1KD as the 4 cylinder GOAT.

    • @Tedkelvin
      @Tedkelvin 6 месяцев назад +1

      the 4cyl GOAT is. and will Always be the isuzu 4jj1 3.0td

    • @garrygraham7901
      @garrygraham7901 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Tedkelvin I was only talking about Toyotas.
      But yes, the J series Isuzus would be probably be the global leader in commercial light truck 4 cylinder diesels.

  • @ulehuleh
    @ulehuleh 6 месяцев назад +4

    Did anyone honestly think toyota was naive enough to bring the already contested 70 with the 4cyl to market and not make sure it outperforms the v8. They are doing it because they have to with emissions as we all know, but at the same time they want you to like it so they can continue to sell it to you, hence why the two engines are overlapping so people in order to make the consumer make the decision to go with 4cyl so it can be spun as though that is what the ppl wanted. But regardless im all for it!

  • @jesscneal
    @jesscneal 6 месяцев назад +18

    Who gets saltier? RX8 owners or LC70 owners? 🤣🤣

    • @fullboost
      @fullboost  6 месяцев назад +15

      LC70 owners towing thier no-start RX8s 😛

    • @davidt3196
      @davidt3196 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@fullboost😂

  • @CM303898
    @CM303898 6 месяцев назад +3

    Now that I think about it, there’s a lot of parallels here between the Land Cruiser, and the Falcon, and Commodore (and more collectively; Holden).
    Sales of Falcon and Commodore were in an ongoing sales slide for a decade or more. When both were finally canned, the common discourse was people raging about how these companies had turned their back on the consumers and brand loyalists, but the more common piece of dialogue was words to the effect of “I’ve still got dad’s 197# Falcon/Torana”, or “I’m still driving my first Falcon/Commodore that I bought in 199#”.
    And that was the problem; people weren’t buying the new vehicles, which lead to the ultimate demise of the nameplates.
    Toyota slapped the 1VD in the Land Cruiser, and whilst all the LC fanbois talk about how reliable they are because they just keep going, the 1VD club just wax lyrical about the longevity it will have due to the low-stress nature of the motor.
    That’s a problem. Reliable vehicles don’t make companies money. They want you to buy a new vehicle every few years. They don’t get anything out of you by selling you a vehicle that will last 20, 30, 40 years.
    The V8 could conceivably be kept alive, but if the 1GD does the job, and they last half as long, so you have to buy the vehicle more often, Toyota will make more money out of you.
    Reliability doesn’t improve boardroom balance sheets.

    • @fullboost
      @fullboost  6 месяцев назад +1

      As Aus moves towards Euro 6 regs OE's aren't interested in investing in old engines to keep them alive. 👍

  • @brendo7363
    @brendo7363 6 месяцев назад +7

    V8 Vs L4 Vs an AU ute

    • @mahcooharper9577
      @mahcooharper9577 6 месяцев назад +2

      Intech would lap Sandown before the Cruisers were out of second gear

  • @Mouldyturnip75
    @Mouldyturnip75 6 месяцев назад +7

    Sadly toyota didnt put an auto in the V8 - then it would be something to finally sing about. It is evident the V8 is not long for this world and all those owners waiting for the order books to reopen - if even 50% change their minds and grab a 2.8L, the writting is clearly on the wall for V8. Auto options aftermarket is an option, with Aisin 6 speed and ZF 8 speed - but no change out of $25k.

  • @geejay79
    @geejay79 6 месяцев назад +6

    I would like to see you guys now do a test at GVM and full tow capacity. I’m interested to see is the 4 banga can still hold up. If so I might even buy one haha

    • @joelingram2964
      @joelingram2964 6 месяцев назад

      Look at the guy on you tube doing it

    • @3800TURBO
      @3800TURBO 6 месяцев назад +2

      Last run they added 1100kg to the 4cyl over the stock weight v8 and the 4cyl still won. Lol

    • @dionisaacson2977
      @dionisaacson2977 6 месяцев назад +1

      I think this video is the last word on the 2.8 tow capability - this guy would know - ruclips.net/video/9h1L9i8ikI0/видео.htmlsi=I72oD1XOZfxi-zCp

  • @MachineintheMonkey
    @MachineintheMonkey 6 месяцев назад +7

    This is good to watch being a proud GU 42 Patrol owner ( before anyone takes the piss out of me I’ll admit it’s not real fast and makes a lot of noise but I like it)… anyway , my company Ute is a 2.8 td hilux twin cab with 450k on the clock which I load up and cane the bejesus out of everyday and it just eats it up. In saying that I’ve never owned a 79.

    • @billybunter3753
      @billybunter3753 6 месяцев назад +1

      It's great to have choices, imagine if there were no competition!

    • @MachineintheMonkey
      @MachineintheMonkey 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@billybunter3753I looked at buying a new 79 in 2009 and the dealer( Southside Brisbane) told me mortgage your house and wait for 8-10 months because the mines and big civil companies are first and I said…see ya champ!

  • @mrgtsx
    @mrgtsx 6 месяцев назад +7

    *grabs popcorn* here come the haters!

  • @Tedkelvin
    @Tedkelvin 6 месяцев назад +2

    they both need to work as modified stretched safari vans in East Africa against the stalwart 1HZ Safari Vans... then we make notes

  • @HardstylePete
    @HardstylePete 6 месяцев назад +1

    4.3 diff gears and 6 speed. Massive advantage.

  • @mrbags5497
    @mrbags5497 6 месяцев назад

    The Victorian Naplandcruiser results are in! And almost as useful!!

  • @allanmaccaul1465
    @allanmaccaul1465 6 месяцев назад +12

    I find this hilarious, reminds me of the Evo days when you tell a Commodore driver that Evo's will absolutely run rings around there shitty HSV...😅🤣

    • @user-gf3mu5uc8j
      @user-gf3mu5uc8j 6 месяцев назад +1

      Had a Evo 10 and it was Shit!

    • @3800TURBO
      @3800TURBO 6 месяцев назад +3

      In the 90s V6 Camry's run rings around the hsvs lol.

  • @user-lw7wq9to5h
    @user-lw7wq9to5h 6 месяцев назад +4

    The 2.8 was an outdated engine in the hilux but now that it is in the 70-series its okay

  • @craigdavies69
    @craigdavies69 5 месяцев назад

    Happy new year guys, 2504hp RB30 at Summernats today 👍 Maad.

  • @dazaspc
    @dazaspc 6 месяцев назад +1

    Something to be said for the Modern Diesel Injection System.
    25% aprox capacity disadvantage and it still holds up well. Would have been informative to know the boost levels on each, but honestly for abuse level durability and fuel quality considerations the the tell is the fuel system. Complexity is the natural enemy of long term serviceability. Regardless these sell like all vehicles to New vehicle buyers and as long as they get a good run out of them after they are sold on it doesn't really matter. If I was hunting down a new 70 series the 4 would be the one for me. If it was 2040 and I was looking for a a 70?
    Nice one Guys.

  • @needmoreboost6369
    @needmoreboost6369 6 месяцев назад +3

    If only they had something on par with the 1fz in manual! As they leave these for dead even with 650k on the clock!

  • @craigtomkinson2837
    @craigtomkinson2837 6 месяцев назад

    Cool Ep

  • @keaganairey1413
    @keaganairey1413 6 месяцев назад +5

    Not a V8 owner and I prefer my 1GR-FE. Does anyone know if the internals have been improved on the 1GD In the 70? Conrods, different materials etc. Have they beefed up the components or have they just mapped and regeared a 1GD from a Prado/Hilux and popped it in the 70 ?
    Been having a chat to a mate who builds LCs and he is worried about the reliabilty of the 70 with the 4 pot. As the one dude said Toyota EngiNerds know what they're doing so we can only wait and see.

    • @ajf9034
      @ajf9034 6 месяцев назад +1

      There have been changes to the 1gd motor, mainly with the cooling and oil systems for increased reliability.
      The auto tranny has also been beefed up with a bigger oil pan and a few other things

  • @chriswood9815
    @chriswood9815 6 месяцев назад +4

    If you slap a 15k supercharger, 3k exhaust and a 2k tune on the mighty boat anchor, it might stand half a chance 😂😂😂

    • @fullboost
      @fullboost  6 месяцев назад

      That seems to be the common theme. 😉👍

  • @josephkelly4893
    @josephkelly4893 6 месяцев назад +22

    I think after watching this, anyone with a V8 70 series needs to trade it in for a new 4 cyl, or even better a Mahindra and use the left over cash to take Shazza on a defacto relationship honeymoon to Bali 😊

    • @effigy42
      @effigy42 6 месяцев назад +4

      They all have voided warranty by boosting them up from 3 psi to around 50

    • @thomjanson9644
      @thomjanson9644 6 месяцев назад

      Hahaha

    • @davidgriggs3967
      @davidgriggs3967 5 месяцев назад

      @josephkelly4893
      Let's see if the 4 pot can reliably get over million km on the stock unopened engine like the V8 can .
      We have 90% of the 70 series our mine bought back 2009 still going strong 24/7/ 365.

  • @josephmukatailukena997
    @josephmukatailukena997 5 месяцев назад

    Quite interesting

  • @koolracerguy
    @koolracerguy 2 месяца назад

    Will there be a Fullboost build on one of these?

  • @markhalden3922
    @markhalden3922 6 месяцев назад +5

    But but something about boost and final drive ratio.
    Seethe more.
    I'd be interested in seeing how the F33A + 10 speed auto would go in the 70 series.

  • @calsfishing2620
    @calsfishing2620 6 месяцев назад +3

    It’s not about how fast it is or any other figures for that matter….both vehicles will do what they’re meant to, it’s the sound of the V8 engine that people love…I’ve had 3 of them and love the sound wether stock or with work done they just sound tuff, might be ridiculous but it’s a fact and it’s why the V8 is king and always will be….you simply can not get the right sound out of a 4 cylinder, if you add an aftermarket exhaust that just makes a 4 cylinder sound even worse.

  • @bogged2theeyeballs695
    @bogged2theeyeballs695 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can you order a 2.8 LC with the V8 sound via the stereo from the factory ?? 😂 I'm happy to pay the extra for the stereo because it probably doesn't come standard in the 70 series. 😁

  • @pareotrem
    @pareotrem 5 месяцев назад

    Fullboost, you will never make a 4 cyl cooler than a V8.

  • @TheCluelessEnthusiast
    @TheCluelessEnthusiast 6 месяцев назад +4

    I'm wondering if the v8 landcruiser is underpowered because trying to get a diesel v8 to pass the strict emissions regulations is basically impossible if you want it to make a decent amount of power, so has to be heavily restricted. Or, if it just isn't really that good of engine.
    I'm guessing it's the first one. But i could be wrong 🤷‍♂️

    • @nolossofsuction
      @nolossofsuction 6 месяцев назад +1

      I've had this thought and you're probably right. Either way though it's old tech and inefficient, I know what I'd prefer

    • @Daniel-dg3np
      @Daniel-dg3np 6 месяцев назад +1

      Nope, that's not it at all. Cylinder count has no impact on emissions.

    • @CM303898
      @CM303898 6 месяцев назад

      Well Toyota is allegedly lining up deliveries of V8’s to be done before the end of 2025. The new Euro 6d laws take effect from December 2025.
      Kinda sounds like Toyota is aligning the end of the V8 with emissions regulation changes…

  • @mediocre_moto
    @mediocre_moto 6 месяцев назад +2

    Here sir, take some salt for that there wound!

  • @tturi2
    @tturi2 6 месяцев назад +1

    does the 4 cylinder come in hybrid?

  • @motorsportfreak1
    @motorsportfreak1 6 месяцев назад +6

    So a ranger 3L V6 puts out 600nm and the 2.8 4cyl puts out 500nm. The ranger V6 is making 100nm more with just 200cc, now that’s highly strung.
    There are numerous examples of the 2.8 ticking over 500k as these engines have been around for like 13 years now.

    • @limpbikkiesbruh-connormeal7339
      @limpbikkiesbruh-connormeal7339 6 месяцев назад +1

      The 2.8 came out in 2015. So not quite 13 years ago yet, but going on 10 and if take out the timing chain rattles ( most common fault ) they are a decent motor. Im still yet to see one smash a hole in the piston / crack a piston ( 1kd things ) or any sort of manjor mechanical failure. Only time iv seen it happen is negligence. And even then its a rare sight

  • @word1901
    @word1901 6 месяцев назад +13

    By far the worst sounding drag race of all time I was stuck in the boss’s 2016 lc79 on Thursday while the 5cyl bt50 I normally drive was getting serviced haven’t driven one in 6+ years they are even worse driving and sounding then I remember chewed through 60L of fuel to do 360kms on the highway my foot was sore from basically being stuck in the firewall the entire time was very happy to be back in the 5cyl bt50 for the last day of work on Friday I hope it’s another 6+ years before my ass hits a landcruiser seat absolute shit heap
    Also have to complain about a 2016 car not having cruise control $90k no cruise control what a joke

  • @chrisbergin8084
    @chrisbergin8084 6 месяцев назад +1

    The 4 cylinder is filling a gap in the market traditionally the 70s has 2 engine options and it does in Africa but due to emissions requirements we don't get the 6 cylinder in Australia.
    Life expectancy of the 4 cylinder is obviously alot lower than the v8 which is completely subjective due to the meat behind the wheel.

  • @thebeerhunter817
    @thebeerhunter817 6 месяцев назад +1

    Now the v8 boys get to really learn what engine configuration is about haha. Noise.

  • @MrJohnno1969
    @MrJohnno1969 3 месяца назад

    Wow

  • @johnbrinkers9172
    @johnbrinkers9172 3 месяца назад

    I'm no mechanic, but would it be possible, or perhaps the question is - how hard would it be to take the auto gearbox from the 2.8 and stick that into the V8.

  • @simonhjc
    @simonhjc 5 месяцев назад

    After sonmay years in the auction industry (37) i finally dont have a landcruiser as a daily (still have worlds best fj45 tho). Insold my 2020 79 and bought a hilux. Why? To see if I can live with the 2.8 and the auto. Ive had 40,60,80.100,200,300(hatedit) and a variety of 70s. This is my first hilux. I love it and im not sure i need to spend $35,000 difference for a live axle front, higher gvm etc… i guess its all about “fit for purpose”. Time will tell

  • @paulburgermonster238
    @paulburgermonster238 6 месяцев назад +8

    Just awaiting the comments despite the explaination and 2nd test with a LOT more weight…
    BuT tHeRe WeRe 2 PeOpLe iN tHe v8 uTe 🤬🤬🤬

    • @southerndiy1
      @southerndiy1 6 месяцев назад +8

      Yeah the mental gymnastics are hilarious
      “But if you tuned the v8 it would eat the 2.8”

    • @effigy42
      @effigy42 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@southerndiy1fully tuned 2.8 vs fully tuned v8 which one wins?

    • @southerndiy1
      @southerndiy1 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@effigy42 they’re both fucking slow

  • @dylanbell4516
    @dylanbell4516 6 месяцев назад

    The perfect real life review well done guys.
    But man this is going to hurt the feelings of the V8 cruiser fan boys 😂

  • @glengirot3087
    @glengirot3087 5 месяцев назад +1

    Laughing out loud at the 4 pot landcruiser.. 😂 maybe the city folk might like it😅

  • @Mambey
    @Mambey 6 месяцев назад

    Are the diff ratios the same?

  • @undy22
    @undy22 6 месяцев назад

    dam that auto made a big difference

  • @AlGreenLightThroughGlass
    @AlGreenLightThroughGlass 5 месяцев назад

    Weak manual clutches are the dirty little secret with most utes

  • @neillodge9130
    @neillodge9130 6 месяцев назад +1

    Year ok I've seen a few videos on the new 4 cylinder 70 series , but what I'm concerned about the V8 and pissie 4 cylinder is long jeperty of the car and motor-running gear it's new and no one can say what it's going to be like in the future .

    • @jackdownie9875
      @jackdownie9875 6 месяцев назад +5

      That’s exactly what owners of 1HZ and 1HD powered Landcruisers said when the V8 was released in 2007. Remember that a new Landcruiser is never as good as the old one.

    • @Senninha1960
      @Senninha1960 6 месяцев назад +5

      You mean pissy little V8, since it lost... more like the mighty 4 banger?

  • @HammerRocks
    @HammerRocks 6 месяцев назад

    It won't take long before the TDI4 outsells the TDV8. the 4cyl seems to outclass the 8cyl in every area other than exhaust note.

  • @ubernoob103
    @ubernoob103 6 месяцев назад +6

    Fantastic video. Straight to the point and informative. I also cant say i’m surprised at the results - the V8 jumping off the line is a direct result of the sheer off-idle torque that thing makes. But once rolling, it seems the 4 cylinder takes the take easily.

    • @billybunter3753
      @billybunter3753 6 месяцев назад +10

      No, it was a direct result of dropping the clutch and wrecking it! I wouldn't want to buy that thing now!

    • @jaredscott4829
      @jaredscott4829 6 месяцев назад +1

      lol fucking hell

    • @ubernoob103
      @ubernoob103 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@billybunter3753 i’d argue that the torque of the V8 off-idle (as stated) is a whole lot higher than the 4 cylinder can muster just due to displacement. Give the 2.8 a manual and it’d be interesting to see how it launches the first 2 metres or so compared. Happy to be proven wrong of course.

    • @billybunter3753
      @billybunter3753 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@ubernoob103 Let's be honest here, they didn't launch that thing off idle.

    • @ubernoob103
      @ubernoob103 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@billybunter3753 thats actually a fair point… lol.

  • @alldanameswheretaken
    @alldanameswheretaken 5 месяцев назад

    I currently drive a v8 cruiser. Give me the 2.8 any day of the week!

  • @holdenbrougham1056
    @holdenbrougham1056 6 месяцев назад +2

    Anit no surprises here

  • @ben7020
    @ben7020 6 месяцев назад

    The GR 2.8 goes alright huh

  • @michaelb5330
    @michaelb5330 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hahahahah
    No one from redneck wonder land will believe this
    (Great content!)

  • @fraser6658
    @fraser6658 6 месяцев назад +2

    So many hurt v8 cruiser feelings.

  • @79series
    @79series 6 месяцев назад

    Having the V8s previously and now the 4cyl. Tunned the V8 had couple more 100nm torque than my 4cyl has with a tune. The 4cyl way better vehicle to own i feel.

  • @chabtee7332
    @chabtee7332 6 месяцев назад +1

    Like is said on insta, not to discredit the 2.8 which seems like a welcome improvement however - the V8 is detuned so the ‘farm truck’ doesn’t have similar power to the top of the line 200 series otherwise nobody would buy it. Hence the massive gains from a minor dyno tune It’s like Porsche making the cayman deliberately worse to not hurt 911 sales or skodas being poorly equipped to not compete with VWs etc. Not sure why the v8 wasn't buffed slightly with the facelift though as they could then charge even more for that option, probably dont want to hurt the 300s v6 🤣

    • @oldbloke100
      @oldbloke100 6 месяцев назад +2

      and lose your warranty on the motor.

    • @anthonywhelan8373
      @anthonywhelan8373 6 месяцев назад

      All engines are detuned from the factory so Nana can drive it to the shops then to bowls
      If you spent $20000 on both setups in the power plants I’d still put my money on the
      4 clyinder as I don’t know where you’re been but the 4 clyinder world is now producing big numbers in power figures up to 1000hp plus in some drag car setups

    • @knuckledustaz
      @knuckledustaz 6 месяцев назад

      @@anthonywhelan8373v8 diesel cruiser has for a long time, been drag raced

    • @Droop666
      @Droop666 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@anthonywhelan8373 gsl 1vd-ftv. Show me a faster diesel in Australia….

    • @anthonywhelan8373
      @anthonywhelan8373 6 месяцев назад

      @@Droop666 I’m not disagreeing that there are fast diesels in the drag scene
      But two questions how much have they spent on that
      And you reckon it’s got a factory std auto in it

  • @lynblisso2880
    @lynblisso2880 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bitter sweet
    The 4 cylinder is in its early days of proving itself.
    Sad seeing LandCruiser owners pitted against each other 😢😂

    • @mattw1393
      @mattw1393 6 месяцев назад +1

      Been out nearly 9 years

  • @vintagetractorsaustralia
    @vintagetractorsaustralia 6 месяцев назад +2

    It would be interesting to see what figures the 4 cylinder does with a manual or the v8 does with an auto (I know it’s not available).
    No excuses for the v8, it’s definitely underwhelming, but I think the auto it probably making most of the difference.

    • @anthonywhelan8373
      @anthonywhelan8373 6 месяцев назад

      If you put an auto in a v8 it’ll loose more power

    • @vintagetractorsaustralia
      @vintagetractorsaustralia 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@anthonywhelan8373 modern autos are very efficient. And the very slow gear change in the V8 would be killing so much ET.
      In a drag race, a good auto is almost always an advantage.

    • @Hezath
      @Hezath 6 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think it makes as much difference as you think. Look at the in-gear acceleration. Autos are less efficient and on cars that are slow, like this, their advantage isn't really that strong. The 2.8 just pulls harder, whether people like it or not.

    • @vintagetractorsaustralia
      @vintagetractorsaustralia 6 месяцев назад

      @@Hezath they are neck and neck up to the gear change. I genuinely believe the acceleration of the V8 would be improved with the auto.
      The 2.8 is definitely a more powerful engine though.

    • @anthonywhelan8373
      @anthonywhelan8373 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@vintagetractorsaustralia
      Hate to say but I’m definitely right in loosing power
      My vl turbo 465hp as a manual 5 speed
      No change in tune went a well built $10,000 power glide setup
      Full manual shift transbrake etc etc
      And lost 45hp
      Yes the car went faster down the strip but your talking a factory auto slow slush shifts no stall converter
      And designed to be as comfortable as possible not smash tyres in the shift and take of as hard as on the transbrake at 3500-4000rpm

  • @user-or3yy8bh6u
    @user-or3yy8bh6u 4 месяца назад

    The 4cyl is the way to go convincing people is another

  • @lodestone69
    @lodestone69 6 месяцев назад

    All i know is the the hiace van with the 2.8D is awesome, with the ugly brick choc to the brim

  • @russell3436
    @russell3436 5 месяцев назад

    Obviously the V8 motor is heavily de-tuned so it can last a long time, this V8 motor was not intended to be a big drag race machine, the LandCruiser is basically a work vehicle not something you track or drag race, this is just meant to be a fun test, also the 4 cylinder is newer so better technology and efficiency, that V8 is nearly two decades old.
    151kW/430Nm from the V8 compared to the 2.8L 4cyl 150kW/500Nm
    Obviously the 4cyl is highly boosted while the V8 is, as I said heavily de-tuned. 151kW from a 4.5L V8 is ridiculously low but obviously if you want to get more out of it from factory you easily can, and also there is way less stress on the V8 motor compared to the 4, the 4 banger has to work twice as hard to get the power out.

  • @fddriver02
    @fddriver02 4 месяца назад

    It’s funny when people argue about some slow ass vehicles. 😅

  • @Darndiddlyarn
    @Darndiddlyarn 6 месяцев назад +2

    Well I think that went exactly as expected, v8 for me thanks.

  • @samuellamont3971
    @samuellamont3971 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yes the 2.8 is better than the baby 253 v8 or 4.5 not even a 5l remember 😂

  • @rahimaiqbal198
    @rahimaiqbal198 6 месяцев назад

    I like land Cruiser ❤🎉

  • @INANGR05
    @INANGR05 6 месяцев назад

    So i think the final question is tunability. We all know that in standard form the v8 is very understressed. Time to get them both on a dyno and see what can be done in the way of tune. Not many people who modify them are going to leave the stick tune in a vdj

    • @fullboost
      @fullboost  6 месяцев назад

      Yep there is an obvious reason why so many are tuned. 😉

    • @ralphblundell9479
      @ralphblundell9479 5 месяцев назад

      For an understressed motor, they seem to blow up around the 250,000 k mark a bit too often.

  • @Dorko85
    @Dorko85 6 месяцев назад

    Hahaha my 2015 Defender is a snail - but against these it’s actually comparable 🤣🤣🤣

  • @tmmtmm
    @tmmtmm 6 месяцев назад +4

    Here come the comments 🧂🧂🧂

  • @domymerinyo8165
    @domymerinyo8165 6 месяцев назад

    Do it all Automatic gearbox

  • @vaughanscott7308
    @vaughanscott7308 6 месяцев назад +7

    Shows you how shit the v8 is.

  • @bazzaham8552
    @bazzaham8552 3 месяца назад

    Why does it matter buy what make you happy.

  • @keithklijnsma7678
    @keithklijnsma7678 6 месяцев назад +2

    The fact that the new 70 series has a 6 speed auto and diff ratio to suit that alone is why the 2.8L 4 would out perform the 4.5L 8 all day long.

  • @bradcross2
    @bradcross2 6 месяцев назад

    asking the big question that every petrol head is wondering

  • @outbackstudio
    @outbackstudio 6 месяцев назад

    Drag racing farm trucks on bitumen ... what a brilliant idea ... what you will come up next.?

  • @colincameron5219
    @colincameron5219 5 месяцев назад

    Would be interesting to see how the 4 cylc is after 500ks on the clock and has done halk of it either in 4wd and or towed 3 tonnes on the back. Diesiel engines were made to work and keep ticking over not set labd speed records. The 70 series was built to work and work and guess what work anx that isnt dropping tolhe kids off at private school with a cello in the back. And the only time its put in 4wd is when the mother needs to get over the kerb. And that is when you will see the power of the V8 also the less eletronics and driving aids the better even keep the manual side mirrors.

    • @fullboost
      @fullboost  5 месяцев назад

      I guess you had better get used to it as the old V8 is dead with Euro6 emissions around the corner here.

    • @colincameron5219
      @colincameron5219 5 месяцев назад

      @@fullboost wouldn't be too certain of that. As the V8 Tundra in North America is in high demand and no inclination of that getting dropped. And globally the 70 V8 series has a reputation. If Toyota feel that their reputation is dropping and companies that are the big buyers of the landcrusier start going else where then Toyota will quickly back track which they have been known to do before. So maybe the 2.8 might win the sprint but loose the marathon. I will just keep going with my old girl

    • @fullboost
      @fullboost  5 месяцев назад

      It's not the same engine.

  • @woobykal68
    @woobykal68 5 месяцев назад

    They should have put the v6 out of the new landcruiser, not the 2.8.

  • @neilkemp9118
    @neilkemp9118 6 месяцев назад +1

    A Toyota friendly promo.
    Dragging with a slow Toyota manual gearbox against an auto is ridiculous.

  • @TURBOTRISTO
    @TURBOTRISTO 6 месяцев назад +3

    But V8 big , 4cyl smol, how no v8 beat da smol 4 , v8 more bigger, when camping in broke back mountain boys choose v8 land cruise because v8 means big ding dong v8 get more boys at da bush doof
    - my impersonation of a v8 cruiser owner

  • @twisted_panties
    @twisted_panties 6 месяцев назад +8

    V8 boys crying into their VB's