Such a beautiful, balanced, and subtle ensemble performance. Not a ton of notes, but every one was perfectly placed without the whack-a-mole technique that I've seen so much over the last decade. I just remember thinking, "There is so little, and yet so much going on at the same time." This line, this book, and the sound were remarkable. I miss Star even after 23 years.
Some say those rimshots are still travelling through space and will be the first thing an alien civilisation hear from another galaxy…and promptly shit their pants
Certainly a strong argument here can be made for this being one of--if not *the* best drum lines this activity has seen. So clean, musical, dynamic, and tasteful. Wow!
Most outstanding drumline I have ever had the pleasure of seeing and hearing. They are and will remain the standard against which all others will be judged for clarity, musicality and technical prowess.
As much respect as I have for 93 Star I seriously think 2013 Cadets took what they did and opened it up more. If you haven't heard the judges tapes floating around youtube they are a treat.
multibuddhaneo No disrespect but without hearing a note I can watch these guys hands and see that they are better. Once you listen, you see that the control and dynamics these guys play with are without equal then or now. Not to say that it will be that way always but the sound quality alone is astounding considering they only had 7 snares and 3 tenors.
Ah the good ol' days when the battery parts complimented the brass parts to the point where if you listen to just the battery, you can literally hear the brass book playing over it.
So glad I found this! Yes! Two of the snare drummers in this line taught my high school drumline! One of them told me once, “Everyone loves the Star Drumline, but they don’t know why?” “Why?” I asked! He said, “Because of the sound!” Lol...He then went on about the crazy things they did to get that sound and how they tuned the drums...Amazing guys! So Blessed to have learned from them!
Alejandro Valenzuela Yeah I think one of them teaches at Avon High School in Indiana still. He also runs Chops Percussion our of Paige’s music in Indianapolis.
Did anyone else notice the perfect 1.5" tap release at the end of the buzz roll at 1:22? It's little stuff like this that make this line stand out as, in my opinion, the best of all time. It's the attention to those little 1.5" tap releases that no line really has today.
Definitely the beginning of the year. I was teaching a Div III corps at the time and saw you guys 4 or 5 shows in a row on the DCI South tour the beginning of the year. The most amazing part of these cold attacks (if I remember correctly) is that you were the only one dutting. Obviously here on this video you have the Dr Beat to reference. But I do remember when you guys shut the Dr off, just the middle of the line dutted. I don't remember any other lines listening in to center for the subdivision. Am I remembering incorrectly? It's only been 28 years.
I get goosebumps everytime. This is so unbelivable musical. I even sat there as a 14 year old in 93 and didn´t understand it, but was totally fascinated by the dynamic and musicallity these guys bring to the table. Compared to other Drumlines, this is a orchestra in the middle of rockbands. they go from pppp to ffff. everybody else p to f
I agree. I thought this music, why very articulate, is way below par compared to other lines. And yes I am the first one to complain to the new kids that faster and more notes does not equal better. While I applaud this drum line for their articulate interpretation of the music, I thought the overall show was boring AF.
That's what's so freakin' unbelievable about you guys that year. Clean as hell right outta the gate. The drums and brass complimented each other so well that year.
Great drumline? Yes. One of the best? Absolutely unequivocally yes, certainly of its time. The hornline was also spectacular, but in no way did the drumline ride the brass's coattails. It stands perfectly well on its own. I could go on all day about the technical demand, control, dynamics, tightness, visual difficulty, etc., but will suffice it to say that those guys were freakin' rockstars.
Inspadave It's all relative. I would say no. No line since has changed the game as much as this line did. In addition, no line since has played with the clarity and nuance. This is a once in a 50 or 100 years line in my opinion. Maybe there have been cleaner lines, beefier books, etc, but no line has had the X factor and uniqueness of this line for its own time. I speak from experience of marching in a high percussion winning line myself.
I'd take this drumline, over ANY modern day drumline! Accuracy, power, dynamics, and musicality at it's finest. No need for the drumline dancing around for half the show! No need for electronics to cover up mistakes. Oh yeah, and Star got ROBBED in '93!!!!
Great drumline? Yes. One of the best? Maybe. I feel that the majority of praise this line gets should be directed towards Star's hornline. I feel like they accomplished more with what they were given.
The mid 90's was interesting in terms of snare line numbers, BD, for example, went from your standard 8-10 down to 8-7 1991-1993 and then 1996-98, then went back to 9 after the 2000's. Especially true once they increased the max corps members to 150 from 128. In 1994 for example, Cavies, Phantom, Cadets, SCV marched 7 snares. Now, most corps marched 9.
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Such a beautiful, balanced, and subtle ensemble performance. Not a ton of notes, but every one was perfectly placed without the whack-a-mole technique that I've seen so much over the last decade. I just remember thinking, "There is so little, and yet so much going on at the same time." This line, this book, and the sound were remarkable. I miss Star even after 23 years.
Mike Davis they were a shooting star. Perfect and awe inspiring. If you weren't paying attention, you missed it.
It's such a shame we didn't have the benefit of HD cameras and GoPros and everything else back in these days.
The detail, the space, the quality of and the variety of sounds never ceases to amaze me. Ridiculous.
Some say those rimshots are still travelling through space and will be the first thing an alien civilisation hear from another galaxy…and promptly shit their pants
no
Certainly a strong argument here can be made for this being one of--if not *the* best drum lines this activity has seen. So clean, musical, dynamic, and tasteful. Wow!
Most outstanding drumline I have ever had the pleasure of seeing and hearing. They are and will remain the standard against which all others will be judged for clarity, musicality and technical prowess.
As much respect as I have for 93 Star I seriously think 2013 Cadets took what they did and opened it up more. If you haven't heard the judges tapes floating around youtube they are a treat.
multibuddhaneo No disrespect but without hearing a note I can watch these guys hands and see that they are better. Once you listen, you see that the control and dynamics these guys play with are without equal then or now. Not to say that it will be that way always but the sound quality alone is astounding considering they only had 7 snares and 3 tenors.
multibuddhaneo Definitely agree with you.
cory ponder Agreed. Plus this was 20 years ago! Amazing.
cory ponder you are doing an injustice to not listen to 2013 cadets. ironically, it's mostly the same show (the music of samuel barber)
Not too shabby for the first two weeks of tour.
the clean shots echoing is just beautiful
Ah the good ol' days when the battery parts complimented the brass parts to the point where if you listen to just the battery, you can literally hear the brass book playing over it.
I feel rennick definitely supports the ensemble pretty well
This (complementary) style was also very evident in Jim Cassella's books with SCV (specifically).
The triplet roll at 2:34 makes me have a crisis every time I hear it
There are two eras of drum corps battery: pre-Star 93 and post-Star 93
So glad I found this! Yes! Two of the snare drummers in this line taught my high school drumline! One of them told me once, “Everyone loves the Star Drumline, but they don’t know why?” “Why?” I asked! He said, “Because of the sound!” Lol...He then went on about the crazy things they did to get that sound and how they tuned the drums...Amazing guys! So Blessed to have learned from them!
Trent Godsey Do they still tech to this day? I would love to have one of them around for a clinic or even an interview.
Alejandro Valenzuela Yeah I think one of them teaches at Avon High School in Indiana still. He also runs Chops Percussion our of Paige’s music in Indianapolis.
Jeff Huffman or Derek Felix?
Alejandro Valenzuela Sorry Jeff Huffman...Great Guy!
Mr. Brent Montgomery! He was my percussion caption head in 2007 with the Blue Stars. We were taught the SAME technique. I played snare drum.
Did anyone else notice the perfect 1.5" tap release at the end of the buzz roll at 1:22? It's little stuff like this that make this line stand out as, in my opinion, the best of all time. It's the attention to those little 1.5" tap releases that no line really has today.
Yes. Almost my favorite part. Just how.
This is during the first two weeks or so of the season - we were still wearing the old pants from '89-'92 at that time.
Clark Gardner playing on Mylar heads at that time?
@Daniel no, Falams but tuned a bit lower, a Hannum thing (UMASS as well.)
Definitely the beginning of the year. I was teaching a Div III corps at the time and saw you guys 4 or 5 shows in a row on the DCI South tour the beginning of the year. The most amazing part of these cold attacks (if I remember correctly) is that you were the only one dutting. Obviously here on this video you have the Dr Beat to reference. But I do remember when you guys shut the Dr off, just the middle of the line dutted. I don't remember any other lines listening in to center for the subdivision. Am I remembering incorrectly? It's only been 28 years.
I get goosebumps everytime. This is so unbelivable musical. I even sat there as a 14 year old in 93 and didn´t understand it, but was totally fascinated by the dynamic and musicallity these guys bring to the table. Compared to other Drumlines, this is a orchestra in the middle of rockbands. they go from pppp to ffff. everybody else p to f
Those completely exposed sforzandi at 1:38, 1:48, 2:12 and coming out of the (legendary) triplet roll at 2:35 are ridiculously perfect.
Jesus Christ they're articulate and clean AF.
When you only have six minutes of music in an eleven minute show you should be this clean.
Inspadave 6/11? Isn’t that the norm today?
I agree. I thought this music, why very articulate, is way below par compared to other lines. And yes I am the first one to complain to the new kids that faster and more notes does not equal better. While I applaud this drum line for their articulate interpretation of the music, I thought the overall show was boring AF.
Top to bottom dynamic was impressive.
That's what's so freakin' unbelievable about you guys that year. Clean as hell right outta the gate. The drums and brass complimented each other so well that year.
All the exposure in this book. And covering some serious ground when doing drill. A special thing all the way around that season.
Most drummers that didnt march corps but wanted to have that one line they would have loved to have been a part of. This is mine for sure.
I still wake up sometimes hearing the Dr Beat in my head.....except it's going at 206
Cadets alum over here
Great drumline? Yes. One of the best? Absolutely unequivocally yes, certainly of its time. The hornline was also spectacular, but in no way did the drumline ride the brass's coattails. It stands perfectly well on its own. I could go on all day about the technical demand, control, dynamics, tightness, visual difficulty, etc., but will suffice it to say that those guys were freakin' rockstars.
So, in the intervening twenty four years since this drumline no one has come close?
Inspadave It's all relative. I would say no. No line since has changed the game as much as this line did. In addition, no line since has played with the clarity and nuance. This is a once in a 50 or 100 years line in my opinion. Maybe there have been cleaner lines, beefier books, etc, but no line has had the X factor and uniqueness of this line for its own time. I speak from experience of marching in a high percussion winning line myself.
2:33 ok how is that so clean
My ears just came
GOAT rimshots
Rolls that make you say "daaaaaaamn"
So crispy, so tasty. just wow.
Yes...only during the very beginning of the season.
my marching band director played tenors on this line lol
What’s his name?
Did they subdivide on the field? I'm wondering how they hit those entrances with all the tacet...
Yes, they definitely did. They had to, I'm sure. You can find and listen to the percussion field judge tape here on RUclips and hear the duts.
Yeah, there’s several “dut”s and “ooh”s sprinkled throughout
I'd take this drumline, over ANY modern day drumline! Accuracy, power, dynamics, and musicality at it's finest. No need for the drumline dancing around for half the show! No need for electronics to cover up mistakes.
Oh yeah, and Star got ROBBED in '93!!!!
please use the new youtube editing features to sync the audio- thanks!
dang Dr Beat
Great drumline? Yes. One of the best? Maybe. I feel that the majority of praise this line gets should be directed towards Star's hornline. I feel like they accomplished more with what they were given.
wicked
These guys forced the brassline to be better.
I love listening to a battery percussion section play correct rhythms. Rather than hearing slurred "clean beats".
2:34
Was Matt Belko in stars line in 1993??
I wonder what time in the season this is?
Who wrote the book - Hannum or Float? (That looks like Float there)
I’d bet Hannum.
please
@@arfshesaid4325 yeah, dumb question
@@jcrawford068 haha maybe
Am I crazy or does the writing sound like Hannum '93 Star: minimal & all about taper from .25 inches up!?!?
Ok, I won't erase & re-write that, for some reason I thought it was 93 SCV... & ... yah ... now I just heard... "THE ROLL" AHDDDDDDDDREAH
GO ANGELIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You never stepped over the goal line you daredevil!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was Hannum’s writing. Musical percussion was/is his thing. He’s Percussion director at Crown.
When were snare lines standardized to 8 or 9?
FanPlastic pretty sure its been standardized since the 70s. This line just happened to be smaller
The mid 90's was interesting in terms of snare line numbers, BD, for example, went from your standard 8-10 down to 8-7 1991-1993 and then 1996-98, then went back to 9 after the 2000's. Especially true once they increased the max corps members to 150 from 128. In 1994 for example, Cavies, Phantom, Cadets, SCV marched 7 snares. Now, most corps marched 9.
rimshots... 🤤