@@jakemf1 91 was great, but the only knock on this show was that it was ACTUALLY about a decade ahead of its time. I know it's all opinion, but all these years later, I still think this is a top 3-4 show ever.
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Once again you posted a video that reminds me of all the hard work we did that summer and how 20 years later, people still like (or in some cases FINALLY like) this show.
Cindy Jackson loved this show, day 1, when I got to see it for the first time on the “Legacy Collection” DVD set. I wanna teach and write a Hornline Book like this one day 🥺😩
I grew up in northern Indiana and started high school in 1995; the PBS DCI broadcasts that a handful of people had taped were passed around like solid gold. Most of the upperclassmen insisted on fast-forwarding through the '93 Star show like it was sacrilege (I was always fascinated by it). In '97 I went to the BOA summer symposium in Illinois, saw Star Brass Theater perform with Canadian Brass, and two years later I found myself in Bloomington, Indiana for my freshman year at IU . . . and I've never left. Needless to say, the legend of Star looms large here. I remember watching a small group of Star alumni singing "When You Wish Upon a Star" in the stands at the 2008 World Finals. But yeah, what I'm trying to say is: A.) I have no idea why this show didn't blow everything else out of the water in '93, other than the generic answer of "it was WAY ahead of its time." . . . and Holsinger was huge in the wind-and-percussion-music world of the '90s. B.) I still believe Star's legacy continues to influence the activity to this day (Carolina Crown is probably the closest successor to Star - in terms of spirit, innovation, and staff). I got to watch a Crown rehearsal at a middle school a few blocks from my apartment in '08 - it was incredible.
I was in that small group singing “When You Wish...” My last Finals as a spectator. It was a very emotional reunion in that stadium where we spent so many hours rehearsing.
We lived a few blocks away from this stadium. I'll never forget watching and listening to these fine people practice from late Spring all the way right before dress rehearsal. We would drop in as often as we could. The music was the same every day but never got old. Seeing this all come together from beginning to almost to the end, this performance still gives me chills to this day. Thank you for the video. Now I can show my friends and family what I've been bragging about all these years.
It's crazy to me how this corps was then what Crown and Devils and SCV are now. Truly, truly remarkable, revolutionary, and unbelievably detailed for a time before mics and amplification. Amazing hornline quality, percussion writing and tuning that are still relevant, and guard work from another universe. Amazing stuff!
Am I the only one that realized that at 2:31, its the 93 Blue Devils snare line, Roger Carter is the tall shirtless dude center right (our left). Notice the Yamaha scoops and 8 snares, not 7.
Very very very cool. As someone who marching in the Cadets 2013 percussion section, it's nice to see the similarities and differences between the two groups.
You must've been sitting almost right next to me at this! How I wished I had my camcorder with me that day. It was an amazing rehearsal to watch, and hot as anything! The few photos I have of this I wish I could post here!
I was there that day watching through this practice and the show that evening which was a experience I have never forgotten. Seeing Star of Indiana that day especially the music of Medea really was a pivoting point that influenced me to better myself in my time in drumline. It broke my heart the next year they didn't return to DCI. Great video, thanks for posting it!
I had marched for star in '90. I was staffing a band in '93 and was at this rehearsal. They had moved forward light years in just three years. I'll admit I'm biased toward Star, but I don't hate the Cadets. I think '93 was just about the biggest robbery ever. I still put this show in the top 3-4 of all time in the activity - and it didn't win.
This is great! In 93, the show wasn't really well accepted by the fans. I was at DATR in Denver, which they won (i Think) and someone in the crowd said, "Whetever!" when the score got announced...people really loved the scouts show and wanted them to win, but really didn't see how much Star was doing something new and different, and doing a great job at it. Now people see that this one show just about infuences every modern Drum Corps show in one way or another. It was an incredible masterpiece. I loved seeing the 2012 Crown show...there was lots of homage to this show. Of course when your brass caption head is the DM in this video (Matt Harloff), it's bound to happen at some point!
DATR is one of the two shows prior to Finals week that Cadets beat us. The other was in Arkansas. The “whatever” quote is attributable to DCM Finals, I’m pretty sure. There were loads of boo-birds at that show and at prelims.
Ah, got it. (I played soprano so drum parts all sounded the same to me ;) even if I did spend time sandwiched between Rudy and Nick in the closer and by the flubs and tenors for the rest of it!)) Again, thanks for posting
I was blessed to see Phantom Regiment earn their 2008 🥁🎺 corps championship title live and in living color on this very field. From Tracy California with much respect. 6:13 timing is on point. 6:26 Some Santa Clara Vanguard and Cavaliers drill. Aggression Confidence Effortless 10:12 Who's that guy?
Lol when Mike French came over from SCV he was determined to make sure we took the tempo of the tap off vs the BD tradition of there being a little gap and the tempo dropping 10 clicks every time.
No, we changed the ending early in tour (in the south). There is a video of us rehearsing with the old ending on here. This is just us chunking out some problem areas.
I was there. Actually, Star ONLY lost to one other Corps all year long.. that was the Cadets like four times, They were doing West Side Story or Les Miserable.. not a bad show but 'predictable' . Medea was seriously unique at the time.. but was really really well done and very POWERFUL..
I was in a Indiana high school drumline in 2012 and my director would still say "play as clean and hard as the Stars!" Wish they were still around. We got great players in the state
In '93 Cadets did Holsinger's "In the Spring, When Kings Go off to War", and that show was anything but predictable. Maybe not as "sophisticated" as the great SOI, but definitely a great show. It still ranks as one of the most physically demanding things ever put to the field. It was also the start of the Cadets tenor greatness.
Marc - there was a rumor that Star almost did Rite Of Spring in 1992 and had that show planned if they decided to compete in DCI? Also, who is the staff member standing behind the drum major (Harloff)? Thanks
why was there no 1994 Star? did losing to their Big Brother (Cadets) in 1993 , cause so much emotional damage that they folded? It surely cannot be more emotional chaos than SCV 1987...
No. The decision to go indoors was made prior to the 1993 competitive season. Losing by .1 at Finals had nothing to do with it. The corps didn’t fold. We became “Brass Theater” and toured with Canadian Brass.
Any discussion regarding the greatest shows in DCI starts right the hell here.
amen
stradale13 91 was better
@@jakemf1 Possibly in terms of crowd appeal, but '93 would have held up against the competition until about 2014.
@@jakemf1 91 was great, but the only knock on this show was that it was ACTUALLY about a decade ahead of its time. I know it's all opinion, but all these years later, I still think this is a top 3-4 show ever.
feverpa perhaps why crown used it in 2018 or 2017 can’t remember but the music identical
Really cool video. This group has a look and a sound that is comparable to the groups we see today
Where do you rank 93 star among some of the all time great lines? This show is so ahead of its time
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@Magnus Jaxtyn Instablaster ;)
Are you insulting them?
Comparable? That’s funny.
Cleanest and most dynamically musical drumline I ever saw. They are still my gold standard.
Did you march Railmen?
@@CarlsbadSGP2007 Yes I did. How did you guess that?
Once again you posted a video that reminds me of all the hard work we did that summer and how 20 years later, people still like (or in some cases FINALLY like) this show.
Cindy Jackson what section were you in?
Cindy Jackson greatness is seldomley appreciated in its time
Cindy Jackson loved this show, day 1, when I got to see it for the first time on the “Legacy Collection” DVD set. I wanna teach and write a Hornline Book like this one day 🥺😩
I didn't realize they were moving that fast in the closer. Insane for 1993
They got faster as the year progressed. There's an accelerando they didn't have implemented yet in the last phrase of the show.
For 1993? Corps have been marching faster for nearly ten years prior.
I grew up in northern Indiana and started high school in 1995; the PBS DCI broadcasts that a handful of people had taped were passed around like solid gold. Most of the upperclassmen insisted on fast-forwarding through the '93 Star show like it was sacrilege (I was always fascinated by it). In '97 I went to the BOA summer symposium in Illinois, saw Star Brass Theater perform with Canadian Brass, and two years later I found myself in Bloomington, Indiana for my freshman year at IU . . . and I've never left. Needless to say, the legend of Star looms large here. I remember watching a small group of Star alumni singing "When You Wish Upon a Star" in the stands at the 2008 World Finals. But yeah, what I'm trying to say is:
A.) I have no idea why this show didn't blow everything else out of the water in '93, other than the generic answer of "it was WAY ahead of its time." . . . and Holsinger was huge in the wind-and-percussion-music world of the '90s.
B.) I still believe Star's legacy continues to influence the activity to this day (Carolina Crown is probably the closest successor to Star - in terms of spirit, innovation, and staff). I got to watch a Crown rehearsal at a middle school a few blocks from my apartment in '08 - it was incredible.
Marched Crown in 2008- Bloomington was such a cool city to be in. So close to Star hall. Met lots of Star of Indiana alumni that week.
Most of the staff went to the colts and Crossmen in 95
I was in that small group singing “When You Wish...” My last Finals as a spectator. It was a very emotional reunion in that stadium where we spent so many hours rehearsing.
We lived a few blocks away from this stadium. I'll never forget watching and listening to these fine people practice from late Spring all the way right before dress rehearsal. We would drop in as often as we could. The music was the same every day but never got old. Seeing this all come together from beginning to almost to the end, this performance still gives me chills to this day. Thank you for the video. Now I can show my friends and family what I've been bragging about all these years.
I was there that day!! I'm from Bloomington, but this was my first DCI show.. loved it so much I marched Spirit of Atlanta in 95!
Thats really cool. The power of inspiration.
It's crazy to me how this corps was then what Crown and Devils and SCV are now. Truly, truly remarkable, revolutionary, and unbelievably detailed for a time before mics and amplification.
Amazing hornline quality, percussion writing and tuning that are still relevant, and guard work from another universe.
Amazing stuff!
Without question, this is the best show ever!
It's amazing to look back now and realize just how far ahead of its time this show really was. The audience hadn't seen anything like it before.
Drumline is runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnning!
The touch, the expression, the running and gunning. Easily a top 10 line to this day.
Am I the only one that realized that at 2:31, its the 93 Blue Devils snare line, Roger Carter is the tall shirtless dude center right (our left). Notice the Yamaha scoops and 8 snares, not 7.
Jeff Menendez yeah I had walked out to the parking lot for a brief break and filmed blue Devils for a moment and then walked back in
I noticed that too and scrolled through the comments to see if anyone else did.
I noticed the carriers were different.
Very very very cool. As someone who marching in the Cadets 2013 percussion section, it's nice to see the similarities and differences between the two groups.
You marched Cadets 2013? Congrats on the Sanford and being a part of one of the greatest drumlines in recent history
blast is cooling and all, but star should not have disbanded to do that. this group would have been a contender in today's drum corps
Kind of a late reply but Crown pretty much became Star. They have quite a bit of Star alumni on their staff.
Yup. Their brass caption head is the DM for this show
@@Spinsane94 yeah Matt Harloff with Crown.
@@richbrass12 Hartford da GAWD
You must've been sitting almost right next to me at this! How I wished I had my camcorder with me that day. It was an amazing rehearsal to watch, and hot as anything! The few photos I have of this I wish I could post here!
Star and Cadets were stopmin us all season long that year there.
Mad props. The level of execution is unreal. Anybody that's ever done real drill, WOW! Impressive
I was there that day watching through this practice and the show that evening which was a experience I have never forgotten. Seeing Star of Indiana that day especially the music of Medea really was a pivoting point that influenced me to better myself in my time in drumline. It broke my heart the next year they didn't return to DCI.
Great video, thanks for posting it!
One of my favorite lines and shows of all time, if not the best. Nice vid
CPBANDDIRECTOR, thank you sooo much for posting all of your vids. Little snippets of memories forgotten keep coming back!!!! Thanks again.
Well done, thanks for posting! My favorite DCI show and one of the cleanest lines ever!
One of my favorite shows of all time!
I had marched for star in '90. I was staffing a band in '93 and was at this rehearsal. They had moved forward light years in just three years. I'll admit I'm biased toward Star, but I don't hate the Cadets. I think '93 was just about the biggest robbery ever. I still put this show in the top 3-4 of all time in the activity - and it didn't win.
The pride of Indiana. Wish they were around when I was of age to be in the core
so glad i found this.
Great, thanks for sharing. Pretty sure that is the 1994 BD snare line around the two minute mark. Nice unexpected bonus there!
That's 1993 :)
This is great! In 93, the show wasn't really well accepted by the fans. I was at DATR in Denver, which they won (i Think) and someone in the crowd said, "Whetever!" when the score got announced...people really loved the scouts show and wanted them to win, but really didn't see how much Star was doing something new and different, and doing a great job at it. Now people see that this one show just about infuences every modern Drum Corps show in one way or another. It was an incredible masterpiece. I loved seeing the 2012 Crown show...there was lots of homage to this show. Of course when your brass caption head is the DM in this video (Matt Harloff), it's bound to happen at some point!
DATR is one of the two shows prior to Finals week that Cadets beat us. The other was in Arkansas. The “whatever” quote is attributable to DCM Finals, I’m pretty sure. There were loads of boo-birds at that show and at prelims.
Such amazing sound, the cassette couldn't contain it!
Ah, got it. (I played soprano so drum parts all sounded the same to me ;) even if I did spend time sandwiched between Rudy and Nick in the closer and by the flubs and tenors for the rest of it!)) Again, thanks for posting
Did you march just that year? I played Mello in '90 - my only year marching.
This is the greatest Jem on the Internet
Great show then. Greater show now.
I was blessed to see Phantom Regiment earn their 2008 🥁🎺 corps championship title live and in living color on this very field.
From Tracy California with much respect.
6:13 timing is on point.
6:26 Some Santa Clara Vanguard and Cavaliers drill.
Aggression
Confidence
Effortless
10:12 Who's that guy?
the guy at 10:12 is i think either bob medworth, or bob dubinski
My teacher was marimba for them that year!
2:31 - The first battery in history to actually take the tempo given them by the center in an exercise sequence.
That's 1993 BD's snareline with Roger Carter at center
Lol when Mike French came over from SCV he was determined to make sure we took the tempo of the tap off vs the BD tradition of there being a little gap and the tempo dropping 10 clicks every time.
Damn these guys are running.
AMAZING!!!
Star of Indiana with a Blue Devils interlude.
No, we changed the ending early in tour (in the south). There is a video of us rehearsing with the old ending on here. This is just us chunking out some problem areas.
this is where the day is won....
these are the MOST INTENSE 8th notes , i have EVERY heard! also some 16th notes were intense as well.
5:40-5:46 goosebumps every time. I did feel the drill was not matched to the intensity of the music in the closer
lol what sticks bro
I was there. Actually, Star ONLY lost to one other Corps all year long.. that was the Cadets like four times, They were doing West Side Story or Les Miserable.. not a bad show but 'predictable' . Medea was seriously unique at the time.. but was really really well done and very POWERFUL..
it was actually just as weird. only more drum corpsish.
Cadets did "In The Springtime When King's Go Off to War" in 1992. Les Miserables was 1989. WSS was '84. '94 and 2009.
Don Romero we did “In Spring, when kings go off to war” in 93. Even being a Cadet, I have to admit that Star was AMAZING that year. Truly amazing.
5:03...greatest +1 ever...
Star 1993 - "Beat the shit out of the drum as loud as you can"
I was in a Indiana high school drumline in 2012 and my director would still say "play as clean and hard as the Stars!" Wish they were still around. We got great players in the state
Who's that beast on bottom bass??
Hmmmmmm... I wonder....
4:21 Ahhhhhh, back when the great Matt Harloff was the DM
In '93 Cadets did Holsinger's "In the Spring, When Kings Go off to War", and that show was anything but predictable. Maybe not as "sophisticated" as the great SOI, but definitely a great show. It still ranks as one of the most physically demanding things ever put to the field. It was also the start of the Cadets tenor greatness.
I loved watching QB in '93 and '94!
And five thumbs down. WHO ARE YOU???
Why is it that in other videos, Star only has 3 Tenors in '93, but in this one they have 4 or 5?
Those aren't tenors. They're flubs.
Star = Cadets instructors , finally getting paid.
Flubs! Lmmfao!
Marc - there was a rumor that Star almost did Rite Of Spring in 1992 and had that show planned if they decided to compete in DCI? Also, who is the staff member standing behind the drum major (Harloff)? Thanks
DFiscus1 Bob Dubinski ("Dubie") guru drum teacher and motivator is behind Matt!
CP Drumming awesome thank you
Dubi was also the long time Band director at Bloomington South HS. Does quite a bit of marching band adjudication as well. Great guy.
At 7:40 you can faintly hear the Cavaliers for some reason.
why was there no 1994 Star? did losing to their Big Brother (Cadets) in 1993 , cause so much emotional damage that they folded? It surely cannot be more emotional chaos than SCV 1987...
No. The decision to go indoors was made prior to the 1993 competitive season. Losing by .1 at Finals had nothing to do with it. The corps didn’t fold. We became “Brass Theater” and toured with Canadian Brass.
Ops - I forgot to say if they planned to compete in DCI in 1994 - sorry
2008 Phantom Regiment hints...
Just goes to close the argument…
ROBBED
Is there anymore of this video?
Why are they all wearing white shirts?
I think he has a weird nickname. Lotto? Blotto?
If only their color guard had been a smidge better, they would have won!
1991 was faster and more difficult in my uneducated opinion