Yeah, realised that after the edit and tried to repair in YT (hence the noisy audio repair). If I cannot resolve by tomorrow, gonna just mute those sections to dust. Sorry man (and everyone else who is getting ear F'd by it)
@@nascompares Mate, I am attempting to purchase SSDs for the h574TX and confused as hell. Assuming a RAID 10 (4 disk), individual drives will be capped at 1000Mbs? Is this correct? So, any money I spend on drives with r/w speeds > 1000Mbs is a waste of money? Thanks so much for your channel.
I’m jumping in 👍 For NAS PCI 4 is not necessary ( The 10G ethernet or TB4 will be your bottleneck ) unless you want to use your nvme ssd internally for VM ( and deal with more heat and power consumption )
Now that the OWC Mercury Pro Dual U.2 exists, I've shifted my focus away from NVME NAS, toward NVME DAS. For $500, the Mercury gives me 8 NVME's. For not much more money than the QNAP unloaded, I got the Mercury plus 8 x 4tb NVME's. Much faster than the QNAP. Then I have my trusty HDD_based TruNas system for backups and fun.
I wish Synology would put out something comparable to this unit. As a new entrant to the NAS world, I'm just a bit hesitant to spend so much on a QNAP.
yes!! This unit is so close to being perfect. If it had the ability to have up to 64GB of memory, 2 x 10gbe, support faster NVMe Gen4 and had an option for say 10 drive slots, then it would be close to as good as technology could offer today. The Flashstor 12 Pro is also worth looking at. It has support for 12 drives. The big thing for me is the price on the QNAP. If it was similar to the Flashstor 12 it would be a no brainer, even with less drive bays. As for Synology, I really don't think they will release a high performance 10gbe Flash only NAS. And if they did, expect to pay a lot for it!!! I really hope they prove me wrong as I would love to stick with Synology, but this QNAP is very tempting.
For building, you'd struggle to do better than that Erying i9 board and the fractal node 804 (If you can get over the horrible trays) or maybe the Audheid 8 bay (keep an eye on the PSU choice. Both are super roomy and allow for tonnes of lifespan upgrades in H/W + that mobo+CPU combo is incredible
Tbh the pricing is kinda bonkers at the moment and so close to launch. Found it as low as $1300 in some places...so it might well be lower soon when it stabilizes
The lack of higher memory and gen4 support is really killing this. I was planning to buy this but gave up after hearing that. It is already expensive enough and I would not mind paying a little more for a higher ram, gen4 support and maybe better cpu (if the lanes are not enough and cpu had to be upgraded) provided that the unit is compact and easy to travel with.
Finally... faster storage that doesn't take up a lot of space with TB.. So tired of these vendors releasing old underpowered cpu, 1x nvme connections, or slow ethernet boxes. Price in US seems cheaper.
Finally a consumerish NAS that supports something aside of M.2. For the price I'd have liked gen 4 but I'm guessing there aren't enough PCIE lanes for that. The real disappointment is the memory. I'd rather a slightly more expensive unit that could be upgraded to 64gb and supported ECC even if that made it a little larger. I can still see use cases for this but it really wouldn't have been hard to make this a real banger of a unit.
I'm looking to replace our qnap nas that has 16tb HDD capacity. We have 6-8 workstations connected for CAD work. Save and load times have become so slow that it's hurting production. Would this be the best option?
No, but you can definitely connect an external USB, then boot with K/V/M attached, and F2/F12/Del into Bios, boot from the USB and boom...proxmox. don't overwrite the internal eMMc drive though, as that makes recovery impossible (warranty etc)
I am attempting to purchase SSDs for the h574TX and confused as hell. Assuming a RAID 10 (4 disk), individual drives will be capped at 1000Mbs? Is this correct? So, any money I spend on drives with r/w speeds > 1000Mbs is a waste of money? Thanks in advance.
Hi, and Iam pretty new to modern NAS so polities if the answer is obvious. Could a ‘normal’ 3.5inch SATA DAS be attached to store ‘legacy’ data such as media files 😊 on HDD as well?
Yes, you can connect most domestic Direct Attacking Storage devices to a NAS as ext.storage. as long as it's not a tricksy file system, it should appear on the NAS GUI and file manager immediately
Possible the limited memory is part of price/market separation There is plenty of space to put sodimm slot or solder down a package of memory have higher capacity If you want highspeed pcie with switch / more memory you need to pay more for a pro / hero edition Thanks QNAP , you won't get my money 😂
I really find your videos very informative. Have a QNAP TVS-H1688X and a TVS 1282 i3 fully populated with more than enogh disks. However, as time goes by, new Technolgy comes up. My point is that this perticular TBS-h574TX is just looking ugly Chinese. Cant they make it look squared or 19"?!? And this holds not only for QNAP, but many others that you even tested! Ugly boxes, and NOT SUFFICIENT. It would be cool to have a NAS with 8 PCIe 4 or 5 Bays but I guess, that is to come yet. Thanks for all those Videos that you made, I saw 99% I would guess
Appreciate your opinions and reviews but this content could be condensed further especially without repeating use of clips. I skipped a head 3 - time and landed on the same Simpsons clip. Please be more concise. longer videos are welcome if you are showing / discussing more about the products performance and use case otherwise. spec sheet is quicker to read.
If I'm going to dish out 1500+ quid for a super NAS then there is no way that I will accept a max of 16gb of ram. I'll just build my own box with 64gb for less than a grand thank you.
I could live with the reduced data rates of the NVMe's but the memory being limited to 16 GB is a deal breaker for me. I would want to use it as a VM platform and that would require more RAM. Also it would be nice to have a 6 or 8 bay version as I would want to run RAID 6 and with current NVMe capacities RAID 6 would really cut into the total storage available. Perhaps the next generation of this device will be a viable option for my business needs!
I love this guy!
It is so great that people are out there that are so passionate about storage and NAS!!
I hate seagulls, lol!!
Love your content but the brutal jump transition with the repeatative over the top audio at next list item (aladin) is ear crushing.
Yeah, realised that after the edit and tried to repair in YT (hence the noisy audio repair). If I cannot resolve by tomorrow, gonna just mute those sections to dust. Sorry man (and everyone else who is getting ear F'd by it)
@@nascompares no worry here, Love the content as always. Try to offer up constuctive critique where avail. Thanks again for the continued efforts bud
@@nascompares Mate, I am attempting to purchase SSDs for the h574TX and confused as hell. Assuming a RAID 10 (4 disk), individual drives will be capped at 1000Mbs? Is this correct? So, any money I spend on drives with r/w speeds > 1000Mbs is a waste of money? Thanks so much for your channel.
I’m jumping in 👍
For NAS PCI 4 is not necessary ( The 10G ethernet or TB4 will be your bottleneck ) unless you want to use your nvme ssd internally for VM ( and deal with more heat and power consumption )
Keep in mind that this NAS has 2 x TB4 and 1 x 10G - so it could utilise PCI4 bandwidth no?
Now that the OWC Mercury Pro Dual U.2 exists, I've shifted my focus away from NVME NAS, toward NVME DAS. For $500, the Mercury gives me 8 NVME's. For not much more money than the QNAP unloaded, I got the Mercury plus 8 x 4tb NVME's. Much faster than the QNAP. Then I have my trusty HDD_based TruNas system for backups and fun.
thx, greate review. Exactly what I needed! Already subed, thx again
Great review. Seems like the asustor flashstor is a more practical option.
Comparison coming soon
Love your channel.. new to it
That shirt is perfect!
Can you do a Plex server test on this one?
I love the jacket 😂
Cheers man
I wish Synology would put out something comparable to this unit. As a new entrant to the NAS world, I'm just a bit hesitant to spend so much on a QNAP.
grow up - qnap is better than synology - just buy it
yes!!
This unit is so close to being perfect.
If it had the ability to have up to 64GB of memory, 2 x 10gbe, support faster NVMe Gen4 and had an option for say 10 drive slots, then it would be close to as good as technology could offer today.
The Flashstor 12 Pro is also worth looking at. It has support for 12 drives.
The big thing for me is the price on the QNAP. If it was similar to the Flashstor 12 it would be a no brainer, even with less drive bays.
As for Synology, I really don't think they will release a high performance 10gbe Flash only NAS. And if they did, expect to pay a lot for it!!! I really hope they prove me wrong as I would love to stick with Synology, but this QNAP is very tempting.
just ordered one
Coming up on 1 year after release of the QNAP TBS-h574TX. Any word on a Gen 2????? Thank you.
Great video mate 👍
My question is what system would you recommend of you wanting to build a system that's upgradable .
For building, you'd struggle to do better than that Erying i9 board and the fractal node 804 (If you can get over the horrible trays) or maybe the Audheid 8 bay (keep an eye on the PSU choice. Both are super roomy and allow for tonnes of lifespan upgrades in H/W + that mobo+CPU combo is incredible
I would.. but 2k euro here in Denmark.. totally insane. Also Gen3 wth ? Glad I got my F4-424 Pro yesterday
Tbh the pricing is kinda bonkers at the moment and so close to launch. Found it as low as $1300 in some places...so it might well be lower soon when it stabilizes
The lack of higher memory and gen4 support is really killing this. I was planning to buy this but gave up after hearing that. It is already expensive enough and I would not mind paying a little more for a higher ram, gen4 support and maybe better cpu (if the lanes are not enough and cpu had to be upgraded) provided that the unit is compact and easy to travel with.
Wish there would be e1.s above 8TB drives
I understand e1.s is hot swappable, but I was a little confused. Are m.2's hot swappable if the m.2 in in the e1.s adapter?
Looks like a movie projector without lens :) But yea, nice specs!
Finally... faster storage that doesn't take up a lot of space with TB.. So tired of these vendors releasing old underpowered cpu, 1x nvme connections, or slow ethernet boxes. Price in US seems cheaper.
Finally a consumerish NAS that supports something aside of M.2. For the price I'd have liked gen 4 but I'm guessing there aren't enough PCIE lanes for that. The real disappointment is the memory. I'd rather a slightly more expensive unit that could be upgraded to 64gb and supported ECC even if that made it a little larger. I can still see use cases for this but it really wouldn't have been hard to make this a real banger of a unit.
I'm looking to replace our qnap nas that has 16tb HDD capacity. We have 6-8 workstations connected for CAD work. Save and load times have become so slow that it's hurting production. Would this be the best option?
bruh the 10G and thunderbolt probably used the gen 4 lanes
Is there a USB drive on the mobo for the OS like on other systems? Can I add my own and run say proxmox instead of QuTS/QTS?
No, but you can definitely connect an external USB, then boot with K/V/M attached, and F2/F12/Del into Bios, boot from the USB and boom...proxmox. don't overwrite the internal eMMc drive though, as that makes recovery impossible (warranty etc)
Why does it look like a space heater designed in the 50s?
Because...well.. because it does..
I am attempting to purchase SSDs for the h574TX and confused as hell. Assuming a RAID 10 (4 disk), individual drives will be capped at 1000Mbs? Is this correct? So, any money I spend on drives with r/w speeds > 1000Mbs is a waste of money? Thanks in advance.
Lovely, but the fixed ram and PCIe3x2 is so... underwhelming.
Hi, and Iam pretty new to modern NAS so polities if the answer is obvious. Could a ‘normal’ 3.5inch SATA DAS be attached to store ‘legacy’ data such as media files 😊 on HDD as well?
Yes, you can connect most domestic Direct Attacking Storage devices to a NAS as ext.storage. as long as it's not a tricksy file system, it should appear on the NAS GUI and file manager immediately
Possible the limited memory is part of price/market separation
There is plenty of space to put sodimm slot or solder down a package of memory have higher capacity
If you want highspeed pcie with switch / more memory you need to pay more for a pro / hero edition
Thanks QNAP , you won't get my money 😂
I was thinking of getting one, but with only 16GB of RAM, just not interested; that's just crippling.
It does hurt a bit
No. The Thunderbolt 4 interface should allow 3000MB/s but this NAS only works at 10G speed of 1500MB/s.
I really find your videos very informative. Have a QNAP TVS-H1688X and a TVS 1282 i3 fully populated with more than enogh disks. However, as time goes by, new Technolgy comes up. My point is that this perticular TBS-h574TX is just looking ugly Chinese. Cant they make it look squared or 19"?!? And this holds not only for QNAP, but many others that you even tested! Ugly boxes, and NOT SUFFICIENT. It would be cool to have a NAS with 8 PCIe 4 or 5 Bays but I guess, that is to come yet. Thanks for all those Videos that you made, I saw 99% I would guess
Ha ha. I hate seagulls 😂. Legend!
Dont know, but the price for this thing is just way to high.
You better Off with a DIY Nas, with more of Everthing and less costs.
Appreciate your opinions and reviews but this content could be condensed further especially without repeating use of clips. I skipped a head 3 - time and landed on the same Simpsons clip. Please be more concise. longer videos are welcome if you are showing / discussing more about the products performance and use case otherwise. spec sheet is quicker to read.
Full review coming in about 5 days or so. Thanks for the feedback (genuinely! I'm British... EVERYTHING sounds sarcastic inu voice).
all good pal, like your enthusiasm. Looking forward to some more unique content 🤟🏻
If I'm going to dish out 1500+ quid for a super NAS then there is no way that I will accept a max of 16gb of ram. I'll just build my own box with 64gb for less than a grand thank you.
I could live with the reduced data rates of the NVMe's but the memory being limited to 16 GB is a deal breaker for me.
I would want to use it as a VM platform and that would require more RAM.
Also it would be nice to have a 6 or 8 bay version as I would want to run RAID 6 and with current NVMe capacities RAID 6 would really cut into the total storage available.
Perhaps the next generation of this device will be a viable option for my business needs!
I'm still really puzzled by the memory configs!!
I also exist....
Not worth it, better to build same thing yourself with mini itx board or minisforum board if they will support bifurcation , you can do 8 nvme drives
First!