NiSi True Color VND - The Best Variable ND Filter for Video Creators?
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- Опубликовано: 5 мар 2022
- I'm always looking for gear that makes shooting videos fun and easy. Variable ND filters were always a bit problematic for that, but NiSi just changed that with their new True Color Variable ND Filters. In this video, I show you why.
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good to have ND for bright snowy days when your ISO is already as low as it can go but the snow looks overexposed and you want to keep aperture wide open for sharpness
Perfect review!
Nice review Pascal! And, great price!
Hi mate! I've noticed that you are using the Tamron 17-28mm F2.8 is there any vignetting or slight cross pattern in 17mm focal length? Thanks for your feedback
Great video, very informative. Please could you tell me about the filter coating? I’m currently using a K&F Concept nano-x which I was very please with but it appears the polarised layer is a stick on film. This is fine but the thing I don’t understand is why they put the film on the outside of the filter rather than the inside. Because of this, the slightest thing to touch the filter (lens cap doesn’t fit on these) causes a blemish on the soft stick on polarised element.
Can you confirm its proper glass on the outermost element or the nisi or it will suffer the same issue?
Thanks for this video.
Hey, do you have comparision this one to Freewell vnd 2-5 in case of vignieting? I am wondering if NiSi performs better than Freewell in terms of vignieting. Thanks
I asked nisi what filter they recommend for a 16mm full frame lens with a 77mm filter thread and they said to use 95mm. It seems it is good practice to use a larger VND than the lens thread, especially with wider lenses? (Not to mention to save cost just having one larger set).
Hi Pascal, great video btw, I always learn a lot from you. Are you using a diffusion filter in this video, and if so, which one and what strength?
In this video I didn't use one. I only use one occasionally when I think it fits. Strength whatever looks good then.
hey pascal - just wanted to say i've been really enjoying your videos. i personally use the peter mckinnon polar pro vnd filter (expensive but also doesn't have much of a colour shift). had a tiffen vnd previously but the colour shift was terrible
Thanks, that's nice to hear. Also for sharing your experience with the PMVND.
I really wish they would make a 6-9 stop true colour VND. I live in Canada which does get sunny and hot in the summer, and even now in the spring I need more than a 5 stop.
with the 82 version, what is the biggest diameter of lense that we can use ?
Hi Pascal. I am using vnd from k&f concept but it is not very good taking into consideration color shift. But on the other hand it is one of the cheapest so I am not complaining 😁
Yeah, it’s complicated 😉
Can you still use your lens hood with the Nisi vnd?
Which nd filter so you use right now and are color shifts a problem?
Why don’t they offer a 6-9 stop version as well? Outdoors in bright light, where I live, I tend to need the 6-9 (PMK VND) more than the 1-5. I’m going to try these but this is one concern of mine. Any idea if there’s a 6-9 coming?
I think sooner or later they will make a 6-9 stop. You can also stack it with any 16stop filter behind the vnd to make it darker.
Can Nisi Variable ND Filter and Nisi Pro Mist Filter be used together during a video shoot?
great and funny review: Napoleon Dynamite ;-))) many instructive news, thx
is this filter good for photo in bright light
Can you please comment on sharpness? At 2:17 when you switched from Freewell to NiSi, the NiSi was just awfully soft. Did you miss the focus? Also nobody states the sharpness change on these filters.. Most look OK up to 35mm but longer lenses are horribly soft. Is the NiSi also soft? What I hate most about VND's are the extreme change in sharpness and nobody in reviews seem to talk about it.
I want to know this as well! I use a 24-600mm Sony RX10 IV, and the variable and single ND’s I’ve tried are only good up to 100mm for sharpness and drops off a lot as you go into the 600mm range.
@@chinitopinoy1726 600 is definitely way too long for these on lens filters. I bought the nisi filter but ended up selling it because with pocket 6k nisi was everything but “true color”. It was the worst filter i’ve ever used and I had to switch for a $15 filter just to get the day over with. Nisi turned the whole image red and turned all black tones to brown. I thought it was due to lack of IR filter in the Pocket but only nisi looked this horrible. I ended up buying a PolarPro Peter Mckinnon filter since this is pretty much the only high quality variND. Its pretty ok, enough sharpness and colors are like they should.
@@chinitopinoy1726 Just saying im the same person just logged in with a dif account.
I have to add that the extreme uglyness was only with the Pocket. I tried it in front of the GH6 too and it looked fine.
@@SirMightyPlays have you tried using the Polar Pro on long lenses like a 600 mm or super zoom? Is the sharpness better?
Nice quick review. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers from LA.
Danke, sehr informatives video. Geil wäre ein Vergleich mit Tiffen, polar pro. grüsse aus Basel!
Hello Pascal, thanks to share this interesting video. Allow me 2 questions please: 1) Did you test also B+W VND? Do you think Nisi VND is better? 2) Why everybody always uses the lens hood to shoot in sunny days, then when guys use a ND filter, nobody use the lens hood anymore? I think it is a bad habit not to use a lens hood with an ND filter. Thank you.
I didn’t test the b+w. But can’t imagine that it gets much better as the NiSi one. You can’t use a lens hood together with an nd filter.
Last two question please: 1) NiSi True Color is a new VND, intead B+W is older VND. Why do you think B+W VND is better than Nisi? 2) Anyway I'm using a VND (SLR Magic Reflex Mark II) with lens hood without problems, but I don't use the original one. I turn the round lens hoow instead of the filter cage. I'd like to buy a better VND and for this reason I'm asking questions. Thank you
@@ExploringWorldRUclips I think the NiSi is better
1 to 5 stop vnd is ok for daylight video ?
As mentioned in the video, higher would better. But it's okay most of the time.
Question: do ND filters interfere with the autofocus or post stabilization?
No
@@pascalbasel Thanks! Appreciate your help.
Can I Stack Another Fixed Nd Filter Like 3 Stops 6 Stops With This VND Filter.... ??
Basically yes, but depending on the focal length you might get vignetting.
@@pascalbasel Thanks Bro....👍👍👍
Bro.... After Stacking 3 Stop Fixed Nd, Will I Be Able To Adjust The 1-5 Vnd + 3 stop ND To like 6, 7, And 8 Stops, Right?
Do Nisi true color have 6-9 stop VND? I use sigma 24 mm f1.4. In Sunny day is 2-5 stop is enough or should I buy 6-9 stop?
Better 6-9 stops.
I really Nisi would also make a 6-9 stop version.
Hey Pascal, I’m a Sony and Fuji shooter as well, fx3 and xt4, I recently got the Nisi 82mm for my sigma 24-70 dg dn and with the vnd by itself the colors are amazing and there’s no vignetting at 24mm.
But there is a problem, you can’t stack any filters with it. I tried my tiffen black mist pro and the Nisi vnd filter together and there’s some vignetting and ghosting effects on the corners that dulls the image.
So I drove down to Nisi’s headquarters in Santa Monica Ca to test out the swift system that they have, it’s basically you can stack a nd16 ( 4 stops ) on top of the 1-5 and it becomes 6-9 stops and also a 1/4 black mist filter on top. Well stacking 2 filters the vignetting is pretty bad and when you have all 3 filters stacked the image is unusable at 24mm and it doesn’t go away till you hit 50mm.
So im thinking of going to the freewell magnetic vnd system, is the freewell color shift that bad compare to the Nisi? I like how there’s no color cast on the Nisi but the vignetting and uneven darkness kinda threw me off.
Can you still use your lens hood with the vnd?
What is the difference to the existing Nisi VariND?
No color shifts, I guess. Didn't use the VariND.
have you tried their polarizers yet
No, I didn't.
There is one more situation when ND filter is necessary, when You trying to keep shallow depth of field in a bright scenery :)
Only if you want to keep the shutter low. That's what I said in the video.
it looks like it takes away quiet a bit of sharpeness from the shot? :( why does no one talk about this or show how much sharpness is lost before and after
I didn't notice it, but many filmmakers actually want to reduce the sharpness a bit, usually by using mist filters. So many might not really care about that.
Wait… you can use a nd filter as a CPL??
Kind of yes. VNDs are two CPL filters on top of each other, so you get the CPL effect. However, it's not recommended because you don't have control over it without also changing the exposure.
Waaaaay softer
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I also dislike the silver colour.
Silver colour feels cheap!😂
Saying an ND is only for motion blur lets me know you dont know what you are on about, making an otherwise useful review completely useless.
What other use case is there? Soft water effects etc. is motion blur just drove to the extreme…
@@pascalbasel well if you were a photographer only then yes, but the video says ' for video creators'. Blurred water effects are a landscape photo style.
Your shutter speed or angle is the last thing you would change to correct your exposure. Balancing your exposure requires ND if you don't want to compromise depth of field by closing the aperture or lose dynamic range from altering ISO.
Only reason to alter your shutter angle is for rare and specifically motivated reason to have no motion blur or exaggerated motion blur. Other reason would be to control flickering in screens or lights. Otherwise it's never changed.
Most people shoot with intention and control over the 3 corners of the exposure triangle. Meaning they won't change any of the aperture, iso or shutter for exposures sake. They are changed for stylistic reasons primarily. Leaving ND and control of light to manage exposure whilst building a desired look for a shot.