Jay-Z Vs Nas: "Ether Was Corny" - Charlamagne

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
  • Charlamagne The God drops a truth bomb on the Jay-Z vs Nas discussion on The Brilliant Idiots Podcast. Ether is full of elementary insults while Takeover is factual.

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  • @blackezi3
    @blackezi3 9 лет назад +1332

    Aww a hurt Jay stan. Ether still burns a decade later

    • @luboya48
      @luboya48 9 лет назад +54

      Charlamagne spoke more facts than you and Nas combined. You can't even come up with a legitimate verse that put Hov on the ropes. Jigga had several lines, the takeover literally puts Nas career on life support

    • @megaunknown400
      @megaunknown400 9 лет назад +1

      +MARLO STANFIELD lmao when she say that stop making up shit.

    • @marlostanfield5185
      @marlostanfield5185 9 лет назад +4

      +Ivan Tapia it's in her book, Carmen Bryan:Its No Secret. In her book she says Jay was fucking her and Rosario Dawson at the same time. She was also fucking Allen Iverson too. Nas lost just face it

    • @marlostanfield5185
      @marlostanfield5185 9 лет назад +8

      +Alexander Fuentes Nas has 2 classic Albums Illmatic and It was written, Jay has 4 classic Albums Reasonable Doubt, Blue Print, Black Album and American Gangster, so I don't see how you believe time proved Jay-Z overrated and not Nas, Jay has been wayyy more consistent and stayed relevant wayyy longer. If anything Jay got his rap style from Biggie, he never fucked with Nas like that. An he addressed that in what more can I say, when he says a Big line he's paying homage to his friend. Jay-Z has had as much or more longevity than any musical act period, not just hiphop but any genre. Also Jays credibility has been proven several times, even niggas like Fat Joe Camron and 50 cent who each dislike Jay-Z admitted he's real and lived his rhymes. Jay is a boss who started his own record label off of drug money him Dame and Biggs, while Nas has always had slave contacts, Jay-Z never worked for anyone.. Not only is Jay a better MC than Nas, he's also a realer nigga...

    • @axlefty9352
      @axlefty9352 9 лет назад +10

      +MARLO STANFIELD If we're talking About being a lyrical rapper... Jay is sack af... It's ok to bite a little bit Jay takes it to the max stealing more lines from biggie than anyone , and brining up that Jay is a bos doesn't mean shit when we're talking about who's a better rapper, but if you really do wanna talk about that... Jay is a snake, funk flex , dmx, ghost face killed and ll cool j all said that when Jay z became the president of ded jam he purposely wanted to get them out of the competition and out of the picture so only his music will be hot, he wasn't helping their albums or even promoting it, he was only concerned with the newer talent coming up... That pussy trying to eliminate the competition.

  • @Yrkr785
    @Yrkr785 4 года назад +564

    Jay-Z attacked Nas’ career Nas attacked Jay-Z’s life

    • @MrOmarthegangsta
      @MrOmarthegangsta 3 года назад +42

      Yes Nas career went downhill but JayZ life actually went up, he a billionaire now

    • @kingsolomon5278
      @kingsolomon5278 3 года назад +18

      @@MrOmarthegangsta because jay z worships Satan....

    • @MrOmarthegangsta
      @MrOmarthegangsta 3 года назад +52

      @@kingsolomon5278 satan? What are you 12 years old?

    • @kingsolomon5278
      @kingsolomon5278 3 года назад +7

      @@MrOmarthegangsta lol you must be one of those ignorant people. Stay sleeping.

    • @agfromdai.e3806
      @agfromdai.e3806 3 года назад +3

      @@kingsolomon5278 bruh

  • @sahibwr10
    @sahibwr10 5 лет назад +702

    Carlmange sounds emotional himself 😂😂.

    • @willsmooth1355
      @willsmooth1355 3 года назад +26

      Well jay himself was emotional on hot 97 after he lost the battle.😂😂. Like father like son.😅😅

    • @prod.justjae9957
      @prod.justjae9957 3 года назад +1

      @@willsmooth1355 nas was after he found out nas fd his bm😅

    • @JantoinTheDon
      @JantoinTheDon 3 года назад

      RIGHT

    • @moeski17
      @moeski17 2 года назад

      @@prod.justjae9957 nas fucked his bm?

    • @wadestpatrick8255
      @wadestpatrick8255 2 года назад +2

      He a corn ball 💯

  • @cjisrael901
    @cjisrael901 4 года назад +346

    “Jay already admitted to losing” and Charlemagne tryna deny it 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @tony4534
      @tony4534 2 года назад +12

      He admitted that the consensus is that he lost but he thinks takeover is better than ether

    • @EniyanValentine
      @EniyanValentine 2 года назад

      Exactly 😂

    • @elITeSWE
      @elITeSWE 2 года назад

      Hahaha i can't believe ppl taking this fool serious! 🤣 effin clown!! Diddys dickrider 24/7

    • @warispeaceignoranceisstren704
      @warispeaceignoranceisstren704 2 года назад +11

      @@tony4534 Even Dame told Jay to pack it up🤣

    • @tony4534
      @tony4534 2 года назад +2

      @@warispeaceignoranceisstren704 So?

  • @burlyliftlock8117
    @burlyliftlock8117 8 лет назад +674

    keeping in mind that the only guy that this is coming from a guy that wears make up

    • @DJGary0910
      @DJGary0910 8 лет назад +39

      Charlamagne is a hater who bleached his skin

    • @GaVageener
      @GaVageener 8 лет назад +27

      lol he uses skin lightening cream on his skin so he could be light skin too

    • @reubezoso1559
      @reubezoso1559 7 лет назад +3

      Levi Lock 😂😂😂😂😂😂😏

    • @dasuess9394
      @dasuess9394 5 лет назад

      Whewwwwwwwwww!!

    • @bestintheworld0624
      @bestintheworld0624 4 года назад +6

      1. Not true
      2. That's called an ad hominem and it's a logical fallacy, in layman's terms you just lost your own arguement.

  • @bluestratos1901
    @bluestratos1901 5 лет назад +495

    The more I hear charlagmagne talk the more stupid he sounds 😂😂😂

    • @RetroLuv_
      @RetroLuv_ 2 года назад +1

      @Bet what real shit around him? that Nas was a slave to his label? That he had contracts? that he wasn’t his own boss?
      Jay started off his label with drug money Jay a real dude, nas wrote what he saw around him he never had the balls to be a real playa

    • @thomasmcrae5153
      @thomasmcrae5153 2 года назад +4

      That's an insult to stupid people lol

    • @thomasmcrae5153
      @thomasmcrae5153 2 года назад +4

      @@RetroLuv_
      So selling drugs and destroying your community makes him a real dude. Ur very misguided plus sad.

    • @RetroLuv_
      @RetroLuv_ 2 года назад

      @@thomasmcrae5153 no but being real about who he is. He from Marcy, tell me what opportunities do mfs that live in the projects have? the influenced they’re exposed to when little, the schools who don’t give a fk about them. Mfs are forced into the life cause that’s the only way out. Jay never told u “go out and sell drugs” the world isn’t a perfect beautiful place where everything is sunshines and rainbows. He did his dirt, got rich and now he tries to help the community back he’s done and doing lots of things for the black community but changes don’t happen overnight
      Things aren’t black and white my dude.

    • @thomasmcrae5153
      @thomasmcrae5153 2 года назад +2

      @@RetroLuv_
      Check this out i spent half my life in projects. Expose 2 many things but Go,d my parents & my will 2 do & want better prevent me going tbt path. Its up 2 u & the chooses u make.

  • @48888David
    @48888David 9 лет назад +454

    Jay-Z also cried hearing ether

    • @sarahn.m1858
      @sarahn.m1858 3 года назад +21

      U mean gay z

    • @seseandohn8771
      @seseandohn8771 3 года назад +2

      Facts ! He himself admit to his team that Nas won and publicly humiliated him ..

    • @ajh1894
      @ajh1894 3 года назад +6

      Lol no he didn’t. Re watch the video and tell me when he cries

    • @seseandohn8771
      @seseandohn8771 3 года назад

      @@ajh1894 what video are referring to ?

    • @ajh1894
      @ajh1894 3 года назад +1

      @@seseandohn8771 the HOT 97 interview with Jay

  • @TR-hp7md
    @TR-hp7md 2 года назад +67

    The fact that Nas used Tupac’s voice saying “F*^% Jay Z” proves he won before he laid the first verse

    • @dremetlock1635
      @dremetlock1635 11 месяцев назад +3

      That's corny because Tupac dissed Nas

    • @MischievousGayHoodThug
      @MischievousGayHoodThug 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@dremetlock1635but nas respected pac and his art

  • @jaybig360
    @jaybig360 9 лет назад +232

    Charla is has no idea was he's talking about jayz got spanked

  • @generaljesus7669
    @generaljesus7669 3 года назад +48

    Charlamagne is the corniest dude on the sidelines of the game

  • @yungdrako8852
    @yungdrako8852 7 лет назад +178

    charlamagne took an L for this one

    • @DuttyRockb
      @DuttyRockb 7 лет назад +9

      thepoisonus T nah Jay won!

    • @cpfan10001
      @cpfan10001 7 лет назад +2

      thepoisonus T you are buggin bro. Nas kiled jay lyrically.

    • @yungdrako8852
      @yungdrako8852 7 лет назад

      Random Grove Street Thug #5 I know that's why I said nas one

    • @alotofhate
      @alotofhate 6 лет назад

      You buggin

    • @FuttBuckerson
      @FuttBuckerson 6 лет назад

      when doesn't he

  • @kimmy1984
    @kimmy1984 3 года назад +155

    ETHER is now a verb. “He got ETHERED!” Chumpamagne The Fraud is wrong as usual, I mean how can you take him seriously while he’s wearing Mac’s NC 45 🙄

    • @aaawindowcleaning9394
      @aaawindowcleaning9394 2 года назад +8

      Exactly!! His win coined a phrase. That tells who won in one word. Charlemagne's manhood got eithered.😂🤣

    • @abhaydath3996
      @abhaydath3996 2 года назад +1

      Why do nas fans get so emotional about ether

    • @tony4534
      @tony4534 2 года назад +2

      Yeah but ironically Jay didn’t get ethered. That song had zero effect on him.

    • @seffer9772
      @seffer9772 Год назад

      Charl right, ether corny

  • @tundrauzumaki
    @tundrauzumaki 5 месяцев назад +6

    You can tell Charlemagne & these other Jay Z fans didn’t fully listen/comprehend Ether or heard the Track Super Ugly which was a clear diss track aimed at nas 🤦🏾‍♂️
    Nas did had facts on Ether
    1. Jay Z was copying Biggie Rhymes
    2. Named his album blueprint after KRS One
    3. Called him out on his line “You seemed to be only concerned with dissing women” implying that most of his hit tracks glorified misogyny,
    4. Stated he was getting chased in his building in ‘88 by goons whom intimidated him to the point he called Nas randomly knowing he never gave his number
    5. Called him out for glazing Jaz-O, Kane, Irv Gotti & Biggie to help boost his career
    6. Stated Eminem murdered him on his own song “Renegade” in response to Jay Z saying his bodyguard (Horse the rapper) had a better verse on Oochie Wally remix
    7. Called him out for being the biggest fan & saying he wanted him to be on every one of his classics due to the constant mentions & samples from nas and also the fact that he tried to get him on dead presidents song and the music video too
    8. “Your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame” basically calling him out for being the fall boy in the Un situation… plus Lance himself even confirmed through a Vlad interview that it was someone else that did the dirt instead.
    9. Last he even called him out on his last line “You Pop 💩 and apologize 🥷 jus ask Kiss” implying he doesn’t fully stand on business fr
    Everyone that claims that TakeOver has more facts on the song than Ether is cap 🧢

  • @hunnybug28
    @hunnybug28 8 лет назад +334

    Charlamagne is inaccurate with this argument. Ether did have some immature lines but also had facts. Rocafella was a drug dealer from Brooklyn who died of AIDS, and that's who they named their company after. That's the biggest fact of all. Super Ugly was also a whole song directed towards Nas. What is Charlamagne talking about?

    • @TreyLON-y9o
      @TreyLON-y9o 8 лет назад +3

      Cuz he got to keep your job

    • @hunnybug28
      @hunnybug28 8 лет назад +15

      +Torrie Butler I don't have to be a radio personality to know these facts

    • @willk008
      @willk008 8 лет назад +24

      Exactly what I was going to say plus Nas talked about Young Jay basically askin him for advice later in like the second verse which would be a real situation from Nas so Charlamagne is way off

    • @a_h3184
      @a_h3184 8 лет назад +11

      Nas also doesn't really address Jay-Z until the second verse of Ether.

    • @IamDanielleGraham
      @IamDanielleGraham 8 лет назад +28

      Charlemagne wasn't in New York when Ether Dropped!! The people's reaction said it all!!

  • @JP-eo1qv
    @JP-eo1qv 7 лет назад +174

    How is Ether elementary?
    He said how much of BIGGIES RHYMES is gon come out yo fat lips not just "fat lips"
    Ur taking his words out of context & making them sound different😂

    • @LanceJ.
      @LanceJ. 5 лет назад +11

      You have fat lips is what 8 year olds say. Why you looking that hard at another man’s lips?

    • @bestintheworld0624
      @bestintheworld0624 4 года назад +12

      Because that's not a clever line, none of the lines in Ether were. It's full of early 2000s schoolyard insults, Don't Body Yourself was a better diss from Nas. "Imma push your grown ass back in your mother's womb, you need 9 more months", that line alone is better than all of Ether.

    • @willsmooth1355
      @willsmooth1355 4 года назад +21

      @@bestintheworld0624 Then why did hov cry on hot 97 if ether was just elementary bullshit??😭😭😭😭

    • @joliearanda6481
      @joliearanda6481 4 года назад +6

      @@LanceJ. But its true he do have fat lips

    • @joliearanda6481
      @joliearanda6481 4 года назад +1

      @@bestintheworld0624 nope youre an idiot I guess you dont understand all the lyrics then that shit was creative and clever he made some great jokes and nah ether was his best diss period

  • @adamdipiazza7403
    @adamdipiazza7403 8 лет назад +320

    My personal take:
    Regardless of whether "Takeover" or "Ether" is better (honestly, I like them both about equally), Nas won. Nas was in a position of vulnerability. He was coming off of two poorly received albums. Jay-Z, on the other hand, was on top of the rap game at the time. Nobody could have taken him out. "Takeover" was supposed to be the track that was the nail in Nas's coffin, that rendered him irrelevant and ended his career. But "Ether" was a strong enough track to keep Nas going, and "Super Ugly" was too weak of a comeback to knock him back down.

    • @RoddyRodbb
      @RoddyRodbb 6 лет назад +13

      exactly! Now those are the facts! The fact that we even have to ask the question "which is better" prove Nas won. The hook alone "I WILL NOT LOSE" made Jay change his WHOLE slogan lmao And Jay-Z is my favorite rapper

    • @princelebepe4873
      @princelebepe4873 5 лет назад +9

      I Will Not Loose was taken from U Don't Know from the Blueprint. Nas responded to the whole album, Girls Girls, Hola Hovito, You Don't Know, Renegade etc

    • @bestintheworld0624
      @bestintheworld0624 4 года назад +6

      Sure Nas won, obviously. After all Nas is the one who's a billionaire and known around the world and Jay Z is at a point where he has to release his albums digital only......I don't have that backwards do I?

    • @bestintheworld0624
      @bestintheworld0624 4 года назад +6

      In all seriousness Nas is one of my favorite rappers and I love his early shit to death (up until God Son), but he didn't win.

    • @willsmooth1355
      @willsmooth1355 4 года назад +9

      2 poorly received albums?? IAM had 4.5 mics in the source AT THAT TIME. Only Nastradamus was received poorly because it was rushed out in the same year and still solid 1.2 mill in the US.

  • @TheHehe1223
    @TheHehe1223 8 лет назад +163

    Charlamagne disrespecting the GOAT smh

    • @Theodiorr
      @Theodiorr 8 лет назад +11

      Nas isnt even top 10

    • @clintbarton9068
      @clintbarton9068 8 лет назад +1

      +TC TC yeah he is

    • @LIG87
      @LIG87 8 лет назад +13

      +TC TC nas is ur favorite rapper's favorite rapper

    • @LIG87
      @LIG87 8 лет назад +1

      +TC TC 1. where did he say that?
      2. yes you do
      3. Then who do you listen to?
      4. Thats the best you got😂😂

    • @benjaminmarquez1994
      @benjaminmarquez1994 6 лет назад

      Charamagne got blackballed by Jay so now he spends his time kissing his ass 😘

  • @tbowser3906
    @tbowser3906 4 года назад +94

    This is how Charlamagne got his invitation to the roc nation brunch

    • @raidernation4life834
      @raidernation4life834 3 года назад +4

      Em was so right to go after this clowns jugular

    • @emmy_inter6316
      @emmy_inter6316 3 года назад

      Does it hurt you to see someone speak the truth

  • @5150Reaper
    @5150Reaper 5 лет назад +126

    I don’t care what charla says. The whole world spoke & said Nas won. Even in New York. Majority Rules & said Nas took that.

    • @tundrauzumaki
      @tundrauzumaki 5 месяцев назад +1

      Ether had more facts than takeover fam, bruh didn’t comprehend the song and the guy he’s arguing with doesn’t even know hip hop like that either for not callin out Charlemagne saying ether doesn’t have facts

  • @davidvelasquez4807
    @davidvelasquez4807 7 лет назад +57

    Charlamagne also got it wrong jay did dedicate a whole super ugl freestyle it wasn't a freestyle it was a song

    • @frankanuzzi9740
      @frankanuzzi9740 2 года назад +1

      Thsbk you just wrote that super ugly went hard

  • @williammangus5526
    @williammangus5526 9 лет назад +63

    Charlemagne sounds butt hurt. Nas destroyed jay z so much so that j couldn't even make a good comback until the blueprint 2 release. Not to mention the jabs thrown at each other years before the battle ensued it's clear. Nas did it on him. I even seen an interview where dame dash admitted that they lost. Where is the roc now? Gone 1 man dismantled they whole squad cause after that, shit was down hill for the roc. Nas won period

    • @agondetv2988
      @agondetv2988 9 лет назад +8

      Ether is the greatest diss track ever

    • @williammangus5526
      @williammangus5526 9 лет назад +7

      AgondeTV​ one of...he son'd jay-z. I thought takeover was dope too cause of what jay did to mobb deep. He let dudes know he wasnt playing but coming at nas was something he probably regretted once ether dropped lol

    • @neguswitdaprunejuice7772
      @neguswitdaprunejuice7772 8 лет назад +1

      +William Mangus I'd Cannus 2nd round ko is the best diss track ever, but I see why 'd contradict it.I'm not mad though.

    • @williammangus5526
      @williammangus5526 8 лет назад

      Chris EZbreezy yea that joint was dirty 2. I honestly think he got L in that battle but L had too much history for anyone to come at him. David v. Goliath but Goliath actually lost that one if it had not been for legacy.

    • @Na-zp2fk
      @Na-zp2fk 4 года назад

      The roc ain’t breakup cause of Nas 😂😂😂😂😂 you way beyond tripping

  • @rivv010
    @rivv010 7 лет назад +45

    The best diss ever
    This guy is the Skip Bayless of hip hop

  • @luckylefty914
    @luckylefty914 7 лет назад +59

    nah nothing about ether was elementary, ether had facts in it, nas won

  • @dereknesbeth7435
    @dereknesbeth7435 9 лет назад +56

    Why is people keep thinking that Jay z takeover won? Come on!! Nas destroyed him. Jay z fans like Charlemagne are a bunch of cry babies.

    • @willsmooth1355
      @willsmooth1355 3 года назад +5

      Only 2% feel jay won. Its the stan in them that wont allow them to be objective😅😅

    • @TheXpertGenius83
      @TheXpertGenius83 3 года назад

      @@willsmooth1355 This reminds me of Drake vs Meek Mill. People like Drake’s diss like Jay’s Takeover but lyrically, Meek ate Drake. They take a point away from Meek because of the beats. Since when do beats when a rap battle?

    • @willsmooth1355
      @willsmooth1355 3 года назад

      @@TheXpertGenius83 I don't know about that fam. Majority felt drake beat meek. It may not have been a landslide win like nas over jay but alot of cats felt meek lost badly to a singing nigga.

    • @TheXpertGenius83
      @TheXpertGenius83 3 года назад

      @@willsmooth1355 They only feel that way because Meek didn't respond fast enough for them due to him being on tour with Nikki. Great strategy by Drake to do that knowing Meek couldn't respond like that. Lyrically Meek was better, song wise, Drake had the club bangers with his disses. Not to mention people were more so concern with the beat Meek chose more so then what he was saying.

  • @michaelwhite7477
    @michaelwhite7477 8 лет назад +15

    Im from florida and I drove to new york bumping the blueprint the whole 18 hour drive. Jay-Z had the hotest album in the country. I was in Brooklyn when ether dropped. The day they played that shit everybody and I mean everybody was listening. Nas destroyed Jay. Even brooklyn niggaz was like " DAMN JAY " I was like damn jay. Every line was heavy. He didn't leave shit out. New York as a whole was like damn jay. Shit got real.

  • @davidblack7625
    @davidblack7625 4 года назад +13

    That's what was beautiful about ether. Nas was purposely nonchalant and playful about it to certain degree.

  • @kingroyaltytrucking9353
    @kingroyaltytrucking9353 4 года назад +11

    I liked takeover better

  • @esotericguru7111
    @esotericguru7111 3 года назад +12

    Nas got paid for that Jay sample. Jay lied. MC Serch said Nas owns that publishing.

  • @KREEPNASTY1
    @KREEPNASTY1 6 лет назад +47

    I've been listening to Rap disses ever since Roxanne, U.T.F.O. Cool J and Kool Moe Dee. KRS 1 M.C. SHAN ,JUICE CREW, ETC. and I think Jay Z is probably one of the greatest Rappers of all time and even think he's better than NaS...BUT... I THINK ETHER IS PROBABLY THE BEST DISS SONG EVER MADE...idk what the fuck this dude is talking about..he must be Jay Zs secret lover.

    • @willsmooth1355
      @willsmooth1355 3 года назад +3

      Nas is a better artist than jayz. Jayz makes more pop music than nas which is cool too.

    • @erikeskedal504
      @erikeskedal504 3 года назад +7

      @@willsmooth1355 And if it wasn't for Kanye, Jay would probably be like 25% less iconic

    • @christianjames9667
      @christianjames9667 3 года назад

      Name me the facts in Ether?

    • @erikeskedal504
      @erikeskedal504 3 года назад +2

      @@christianjames9667 KRS already made an album called Blueprint first - dissing women - eminem murdered you on your own shit....

    • @christianjames9667
      @christianjames9667 3 года назад

      @@erikeskedal504 Takeover was nothing but facts. Large professor confirmed he showed Nas a tek on tour. That's a confirmed fact. Jay fucked Nas baby mother that's a fact. Jay snaked Nas out his publishing that's a fact. Nas underperforming with his albums after illmatic.

  • @killidemoni863
    @killidemoni863 4 года назад +27

    at least nas didn't cry when he heard takeover

  • @PhilliesGodSon
    @PhilliesGodSon 2 года назад +10

    Yet Jay sent the whole rocafella and it was Nas alone. Stop it, Jay underestimated Nas, poked the bear and the bear did what the bear does, tore shit up. Stop it, dude had to drop super ugly because of ether.

  • @comebackkid44723
    @comebackkid44723 4 года назад +12

    Right in the recommended videos I've got a DJVLAD video with Charlemagne where Charlamagne calls Drake's Back to Back....a Top 5 diss track. And here he is saying Ether was elementary.
    I think that's all you need to know about Charlemagne and his ability to speak on hip hop.

  • @agondetv2988
    @agondetv2988 9 лет назад +15

    Ether is the greatest diss song ever made. Nas is the greatest rapper of all time. Jay Z is overrated as fuck and corny as fuck. Jay is not even in my top 5, maybe not even my top 10.

  • @oscarurbina2678
    @oscarurbina2678 7 лет назад +94

    It's funny, Charlamagne says Jay-z hit him with facts, and then the first line he brings out from the takeover to prove it is an OPINION "You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song" . I guess Charlemagne does't know the difference between a fact and opinion. In my OPINION "The world is your's" which is where that "Dead President" sample comes from is an awesome song, so much for his fact. Another so called fact that people think Jay-z said which is really an OPINION is when he says "That's a one hot album every ten year average and thats so lame", that is an OPINION! In my OPINION the first 3 albums for Nas were classics, and then "Stillmatic and God Son" were classics as well. Looks like someone needs to go back to school

    • @sugs1191
      @sugs1191 5 лет назад +6

      Yes those are opinions. But there is a degree of truth behind them. As a Nas fan I generally felt he fsll of after Illmatic even if I enjoyed I am or IWW. I also prefer dead presidents to The world is yours. Its also worth pointing out Jay attacked Nas's credibility as an Mc not his appearance or so called sexuality

    • @willsmooth1355
      @willsmooth1355 4 года назад +10

      @@sugs1191 If nas kept staying the illmatic lane then he would be Canibus status today instead of a being a global icon he is today. Nas never fell off. He just grew as an artist and expanded his artistry.

    • @willsmooth1355
      @willsmooth1355 4 года назад +5

      @@sugs1191 Huh?? He called nas a fag model for esco ads. What does that mean to you??

    • @sugs1191
      @sugs1191 4 года назад

      @@willsmooth1355 he's more attacking his image there and that was like half a bar.

    • @sugs1191
      @sugs1191 4 года назад

      @@willsmooth1355 no bcos Canibus has never had an illmatic and most of Canibus albums suck tbh.

  • @stefanc4520
    @stefanc4520 3 года назад +17

    Ether - Timeless
    Takeover - Forgotten to time

    • @willsmooth1355
      @willsmooth1355 3 года назад

      Takeover went from career ending diss to irrelevant and not considered top 10 once ether came out. Ether was and is that powerful. Hov had to take a vacay after ether came out😅😅😅

  • @718derrick
    @718derrick 2 месяца назад +2

    Charlamenge fully understands.
    Takeover was a WMD for 2 of QB’s elite rappers.
    He took Takeover to Summer Jam for Prodigy & was set to do the same for Nas. Created the “Get/Got Summer Jammed”.
    Takeover was 1 1/2 verse for P & 1 1/2 for Nas.
    If not for Takeover, Nas’ rap career might’ve been done with.
    Ether 4 verses of high school snaps. Nothing in that song was a jaw-dropper.
    But it was said Nas never was a battle rapper. Jay used to battle dudes all the time.
    And then Nas attempts to throw extra shots in “Destroy & Rebuild” which I knew he just felt brave for dissing Nature, Mega, & Prodigy lol.
    Takeover was the closest to Pac & The Outlaws’ “Hit’em Up”

  • @cbreeze864
    @cbreeze864 4 года назад +5

    Ether was name calling and over emotional. Takeover was way better.

  • @Sebastianlopez519
    @Sebastianlopez519 4 года назад +10

    Charlamagne is so biased 😂

  • @Lasheem
    @Lasheem 9 лет назад +39

    Takeover wasn't even about Nas... It was mostly about Prodigy from Mobb Deep.

    • @DavidLee-vp3nr
      @DavidLee-vp3nr 9 лет назад +4

      +Coltrane 1 verse was directed as nas

    • @sims4610593
      @sims4610593 8 лет назад +6

      wtf did you even listen to the song?? Its a whole verse on there going at nas, said his name and all. U can't be serious?

    • @josecuervo1836
      @josecuervo1836 8 лет назад

      +Shanty Boonstabo let me guess "HALF A BARRRRR", hit em up was better than both!

    • @cwilfried8040
      @cwilfried8040 7 лет назад +1

      Then P made him shook on the street.

    • @symbolegemini9265
      @symbolegemini9265 6 лет назад +3

      Jay's a little pussy. The only, ONLY reason rappers are afraid of Jay-z today is because they know he has the Illuminati protecting him and if any one of those rappers step up and say some bold stuff about they could possibly be killed. Remember how everyone was dissing Jay back in the day? Well, now that Jay-z's in that illuminati s*** now, now everybody respects him and calling him, "one of the greatest rappers alive". You kidding me? His music is straight trash and is the husband of that she devil Beyonce. Can't stand either one of them.

  • @genioallen1959
    @genioallen1959 Год назад +6

    Yeah years later it wasn’t actual facts Charlemagne 😂

  • @arstar5435
    @arstar5435 4 года назад +10

    im not gonna lie, i do agree with him, ether had some corny ass lines and playground insults, jay z did come with more facts

    • @jjjayden8964
      @jjjayden8964 3 года назад +1

      Name the facts please?? I think u and charlamagne are confusing facts and opinions. I guarantee u cant name more than 1 factual statement from takeover but i could name at least 5 facts from ether.

    • @arstar5435
      @arstar5435 3 года назад +1

      @@jjjayden8964 the fact that nas had been falling off after illmatic, the fact that he paid nas' manager or whatever for the dead presidents sample, and the fact that he fucked nas' girl. Wtf did nas say? Gay z? Cockafella? "YoU'rE a StAn, EmInEm MuRdErEd YoU" WEAK.

    • @willsmooth1355
      @willsmooth1355 3 года назад +5

      @@arstar5435 lmao. Falling off?? That's your opinion genius. Thats not a FACT. IT WAS WRITTEN imo is a better album than illmatic and alot of people feel that way. Also nas wasnt with Carmen no more. Carmen went after jay when she caught nas cheating with mary j blige. You named no facts just an opinion that doesnt hold no weight. Illmatic, It was written and Stillmatic are all classics. Now I can name at least 5 facts from ether. Jayz biting biggie, jayz doing taebo, jayz begging nas to do songs, naming their company after a brooklyn hustler who actually died from aids, hopping on anything that is hot. Ether was a psychological beatdown and that 3rd verse had jay crying on hot 97 saying how vulgar and uneasy it was. Again please name the facts on takeover?? You rambled off a bunch of opinion and jay smashed nas's babymoms but u tried to twist it and say it was nas girl. Lol.

    • @arstar5435
      @arstar5435 3 года назад +2

      @@willsmooth1355 nah, it was a fact, nobody was messing with nas no more, he was falling off hard, he was sounding more and more mainstream. And idk who tf told you that Carmen one, but its untrue, jay z fucked her even when she was in the relationship with him, she said it an interview. And jay z biting biggie? You ever heard of paying homage? And that Rockefeller one is also a garbage statement, so what if he died of aids?and that was not jay z begging, he asked nas to do a feature and nas rejected him, thats it.

    • @willsmooth1355
      @willsmooth1355 3 года назад

      @@arstar5435 lmao. Nas sold 3 million with it was written and sold over 2 million with IAM. What the hell are u talking about?? Nas was still selling records. Again u don't know what u are talking about. Just because u agree with what jay said on takeover doesnt make it factual. Now i just gave u 5 facts from ether. U havent named one. The only fact on takeover was jay smashing nas's babymoms or sloppy seconds. Learn the difference between facts and opinions.

  • @elijahthweatt5866
    @elijahthweatt5866 7 лет назад +17

    this dude is banned from talkin rap forever, takeover was trash, ether was legendary

  • @jairogers5876
    @jairogers5876 4 года назад +2

    Facts on facts!! Ether was weak asf!!! Jay-Z broke down Nas's career at that time. He was struggling for years!!!

    • @jairogers5876
      @jairogers5876 4 года назад +2

      @@THE-INFINITE-VIBES Ether was trash writing and wasnt as personal or hard hitting as Takeover.

    • @vsvpqwappp3038
      @vsvpqwappp3038 3 года назад +1

      @@jairogers5876 thank you...the majority of people like outright insults instead of facts...ig they find it more entertaining

    • @okezzydaily4805
      @okezzydaily4805 Год назад

      Fool it was written went platinum with over 3 million records sold Nas has fans in Europe than jay

  • @yujirogoggins4389
    @yujirogoggins4389 7 лет назад +11

    ether is OFFICIALLY the better diss track. Jay Z cried when he heard it.

  • @NotoriousNYNJ
    @NotoriousNYNJ 8 лет назад +81

    Ether may have had corny moments but overall it's the much better diss record... Takeover was cool but I feel Jay was trying too hard to diss Nas and mobb... Ether seemed more natural and flowed better... Just me... Both kings of ny and hip hop...

    • @stuartchilongozi2439
      @stuartchilongozi2439 3 года назад +4

      Then hit em is corny

    • @sugs1191
      @sugs1191 2 года назад +7

      I don't think Jay Z tried too hard btw. I think he went hard. But Ether is corny you admit it yourself. But Nas Stans always say it's more lyrical - which is the biggest lie period. Nas is very lyrical but Ether was not

    • @kaz4442
      @kaz4442 2 года назад +6

      Jay tried too hard? Wtf u smoking ether was pure desperation 😂

  • @Dru2Usucka
    @Dru2Usucka 2 года назад +6

    Charla forgot Takeover was the FIRST shot….
    Jay had respond overnight to ETHER, and that “SuperUgly”, was both EMOTIONAL, and an ENTIRE song, albeit a mixtape joint.
    Hov was in his feelings because ONE of the rocks being thrown connected to his ass, and EGO checked him.
    Glad both brothas are still rhymin tho

    • @justarandominternetdude2579
      @justarandominternetdude2579 2 года назад +1

      I’m glad someone knows their NYC hip-hop history

    • @Balley96
      @Balley96 Год назад

      Nah not really though, Nas’ Stillmatic freestyle was the first proper track in the beef

  • @surfseapop
    @surfseapop 4 года назад +35

    Jay definitely went in, but nas clowned Jay period. Just listen to the song it’s an event! A motion picture! I’d pay to see ether preformed, it is arguably the best diss track since hit em up. And if your a real fan of hip hop you can’t even argue the point...

    • @sugs1191
      @sugs1191 2 года назад +3

      I'm a real hip hop fan. Ether is overrated. Takeover is underrated.

    • @surfseapop
      @surfseapop 2 года назад

      @@sugs1191 takeover is definitely a dope track. Don’t get me wrong, the joint is a respectable jab. Ether is ether tho my G! Getting ethered is now common terminology. Let that marinate for 35….45 minutes. Jay got handled on so many different levels. The people who think Jay won because he slept with nas’s ex is just retarded. In all actuality at the same time Jay was messing wit nas’s ex. Nas was going on "dates" with Beyoncé. So what the science here? Take over was half ass and Jay got ethered ( an actual term now). Lol

    • @MrRop-yp3wt
      @MrRop-yp3wt 2 года назад

      Eminem has the dopest diss tracks imo aside from killshot of course

    • @MrRop-yp3wt
      @MrRop-yp3wt 2 года назад

      @@anthonylopez5 lol killshot is his worst, you should listen the to his earlier stuff like quitter,bully, girls ,nail in the coffin etc

  • @matt.2708
    @matt.2708 2 года назад +3

    I guess Ether doesn’t stop burning

  • @edg810
    @edg810 6 лет назад +23

    Jay never did a whole song to NaS? We all know "Supa Ugly" was trash and that by that time it was clear Nas had won, but it still counts a song, no? Charlamagne just rides Jay-Z way too hard. To this day getting murdered on wax is referred to as Ether.

  • @anthonyrashadmd
    @anthonyrashadmd 3 года назад +10

    When he said Nas was in the game 10 years to his 5, that was fallacious

    • @okpolee
      @okpolee 3 года назад +5

      THAT LINE WAS SO INACCURATE THAT I GET UPSET WHEN PPL SAY TAKEOVER WAS ALL FACTS. JAY USED A DIFFERENT MEASURING STICK FOR HIMSELF COMPARED TO NAS..HE USED THE TIME NAS DID LIVE AT THE BARBEQUE AND COMPARED IT TO WHEN HE DROPPED REASONABLE DOUBT. TRASH ASS BAR TBH

    • @solitary2
      @solitary2 2 года назад

      Well... technically speaking, Nas dropped his firsr piece of music in 1991 called "The Original Tapes" and Takeover dropped in 2001. So... Jay was in the shit for 6 years, but Nas was actually in the shit for 10

    • @jordanprice9285
      @jordanprice9285 2 года назад +4

      @@solitary2 Actually no, Jay Z was rapping before his first album "Reasonable Doubt" as he was not only seen featured on Big L's infamous "1995 10 minute freestyle" joint as well as the Block Party with ODB, Shyehim, Big Scoob, and others. More specifically in fact was the feature from Big Daddy Kane when Jay-Z used to rap fast just like him hence the "I gave you a style for you to run with" since Jay wasn't rapping like he was on Reasonable Doubt before Nas as he was on the Big Daddy Kane flow in 1995 as also seen in the Big L freestyle. He was doing the fast flow and he even has a track with Jaz-O before that around circa 1991 called "The Originators" which was the original one before the Originator '99 version came out on the Vol. 2 album since it was just a refresh of their original back in the days. So Jay-Z was technically incorrect and made it out as if he never been in the game as long when he clearly was or at least was very close to being out just as long as Nas has been, he just didn't drop his own album until 1996 where Nas had 2 and a demo tape from 91 as well.

    • @jeffaholics2289
      @jeffaholics2289 2 года назад

      @@jordanprice9285 TAWK!

    • @ikembaojore3877
      @ikembaojore3877 Год назад

      @@jordanprice9285 Facts!

  • @warispeaceignoranceisstren704
    @warispeaceignoranceisstren704 2 года назад +14

    Sad part is, Charlemagne the goddess and a lot of people didn't even hear the original Ether!🤣

    • @FutureStyles
      @FutureStyles Год назад

      No one did outside of the industry.

    • @deniawiseone95
      @deniawiseone95 8 месяцев назад

      I didn't even know there was an "original" one 🤔

  • @2414kels
    @2414kels 8 лет назад +41

    But no mention of that corny ass comeback from jay 😂😂😂 on a dre and nocturnal beat. Jay got real personal and elementary on that foh.

    • @S.T.E.E.Z.Y
      @S.T.E.E.Z.Y 8 лет назад +16

      Supa Ugly? Oh that shit was whack as fuck

    • @2414kels
      @2414kels 8 лет назад +12

      8ball64 supa wack!

    • @brashadcarr6759
      @brashadcarr6759 5 лет назад

      the conversation was ethet vs takeover not supa ugly

  • @jonafurukawa8992
    @jonafurukawa8992 4 года назад +8

    I like how charlamagne is making fun of someone for being childish

  • @daddyfamlittle6262
    @daddyfamlittle6262 5 лет назад +6

    CTG is super corny! Ironic for him to call a classic hip hop "corny"! Smh

  • @cjnv48
    @cjnv48 2 месяца назад +2

    Takeover is infinitely better than ether. Kanye killed the beat too. Ether beat was boring.

  • @CreativeLaelAsif
    @CreativeLaelAsif Год назад +2

    So if Ether was angry and emotional what was Superugly?

  • @treythacker4212
    @treythacker4212 8 лет назад +8

    Coming from the nigga who's favorite rapper is drake and thinks back to back is one of the best disses ever

  • @kalihaze765thlemon9
    @kalihaze765thlemon9 8 лет назад +23

    He's right, take over was better. Either was coo but takeover was stating facts. Nas was just clowning his looks and shit. People need to listen to take over again. Classic diss record

    • @StlyeEasy93
      @StlyeEasy93 8 лет назад +3

      Ether is better

    • @tengoodquestions
      @tengoodquestions 8 лет назад

      +Tommy Hass hahahahaha

    • @FloppyDorito
      @FloppyDorito 8 лет назад +3

      'how many more of biggies rhymes gonna come out your fat lips?' got em
      'callin my crib n i ain't even give you my numbers' got em
      'eminem murdered you on your own shit' got em

    • @neilfrancislennon7519
      @neilfrancislennon7519 8 лет назад +4

      That's what a rap diss track does, it's about who can come up with the best roasts of the other guy

    • @Illmatic662
      @Illmatic662 8 лет назад +1

      Nas also mentioned the fact that Jay-Z was asking Foxy questions about Nas about when he used to fuck her, who does shit like that?

  • @DeTAYL.
    @DeTAYL. 5 месяцев назад +1

    Charlemagne sounded mad emotional in this, but he wasn’t wrong.

    • @tundrauzumaki
      @tundrauzumaki 4 месяца назад +1

      He is on every level. There was hella facts told on Ether… he refuses to acknowledge it & only mention some of the name calling lines on the song. Not only that but he even went as far to say that Jay Z never had a song dedicated to dissing nas and only had a verse as if the song “Super Ugly” don’t exist smh

  • @artificialidiocy1665
    @artificialidiocy1665 2 года назад +4

    this is a man trying to save his career as Jay Z got him fired once in the past. so he is doin all he can to be in his best side haha

    • @HeavenFace
      @HeavenFace 2 года назад +1

      Yea yea its true good point

  • @RR-lv3tp
    @RR-lv3tp 3 года назад +5

    Takeover was always better 💯

  • @Authenticinteractions
    @Authenticinteractions 7 лет назад +3

    ctg is speaking facts! i think ctg, djvlad, clark kent, schoolboyq, rosenberg and myself are the only ppl that say takeover was better than ether!

  • @davidvelasquez4807
    @davidvelasquez4807 7 лет назад +2

    Charlamagne is the same nigga to say back to back is a top 3 disstrack ever

  • @vigneshsubramanian2511
    @vigneshsubramanian2511 5 месяцев назад +2

    I do think Nas is a better rapper than Jay z but Charlamagne was right. The thing is there is nothing witty or cold about saying childish insults. It just sounds immature. I do think however Nas won the war because Nas has always been reinventing himself and is still making music. It’s funny that Nas called him a biter for stealing Bigs lyrics but Nas himself has used Rakim lines in his songs. By that logic ALL RAPPERS BITE. USING ONE LINE ISN’T BITING. If there is any rapper that bites that’s Drake cuz he copies whole verses. One bar isn’t copying. That’s just paying respect to OGS.

  • @NinaB830
    @NinaB830 8 лет назад +8

    Who's mans is this?! This fella must have got roc'd by jay z so hard, he's still riding

    • @maverick6775
      @maverick6775 4 года назад

      his boss, he pays his wages a fucking radio guy

  • @PesterFester1966
    @PesterFester1966 9 лет назад +12

    Takeover overall was a better song... Case Closed !!!

    • @axlefty9352
      @axlefty9352 9 лет назад

      Who gives a fuck about a better song, we're talking diss tracks and according to facts ether killed takeover so case closed bro

    • @R.o.Ro.
      @R.o.Ro. 8 лет назад

      +Shanty Boonstabo diss song isnt supposed to be facts. tupac didnt do half the things he claimed in hit em up but that doesnt stop it from being the best diss track.

    • @R.o.Ro.
      @R.o.Ro. 8 лет назад

      ***** my bad gangsta

    • @anny-ei7kl
      @anny-ei7kl 8 лет назад +2

      +Shanty Boonstabo no facts like jay z copying names asking nas for help and money snaking biggie smalls

    • @anny-ei7kl
      @anny-ei7kl 8 лет назад +1

      +Alexander Fuentes thank you some of these people on the comments just missed all the ether facts

  • @-MrGoogle
    @-MrGoogle 5 лет назад +2

    Jay took out nas

    • @marcusshelby4787
      @marcusshelby4787 5 лет назад +1

      stick it to em. I agree Jay gave Nas a taste of his own medicine

  • @Roy_Al_Blak202
    @Roy_Al_Blak202 8 лет назад +1

    108 Nasir stans disliked this. When I was young I gave it to Nas but Jay had more validity on Takeover in one verse. I'm a Nas fan saying this too , y'all stans need to wake up.

  • @MarcKlark
    @MarcKlark 5 месяцев назад +3

    ETHER is whack 😢 some people just can't accept the truth. The people who like Ether Nas career tanked after Takeover What top 10 song has he dropped since. Ill wait.

    • @tundrauzumaki
      @tundrauzumaki 5 месяцев назад +1

      Made You Look, I Can, Just A Moment, Thief’s Theme, HipHop is Dead, One Mic, Got Yourself A Gun 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @whatchewup219
      @whatchewup219 4 месяца назад +1

      YOU can’t ACCEPT that it WAS IS AND WILL FOREVER BE BETTER THAN TAKEOVER🌻AND WAS A UNANIMOUS KNOCKOUT😂

  • @whiplash7884
    @whiplash7884 3 года назад +4

    The dislikes in the video say everything.

  • @user-fj6hd1hc8y
    @user-fj6hd1hc8y 2 года назад +2

    Ether buried Jay Z

  • @gmailobesr1687
    @gmailobesr1687 2 года назад +2

    Jay Z fans be delusional asf

  • @RealRalphMekaBoo
    @RealRalphMekaBoo 4 года назад +4

    Nas hands won that shit hands down bar for bar. It was all facts

  • @raizonfi1527
    @raizonfi1527 2 года назад +4

    Charlemagne is actually right

    • @coolerruler
      @coolerruler 2 года назад

      Nope Jay did make a whole song

  • @spitefuldeer
    @spitefuldeer 17 дней назад +1

    takeover was the better diss, it killed the beef before it even began. ether was good but the lyrics were so corny and premature considering how long nas took to respond to it. it’s definitely an unpopular opinion but jay z buried nas with takeover than buried him with super ugly

  • @Outthewayzay
    @Outthewayzay 3 года назад +1

    Ppl want Nas to win so bad cuz it’s good for the story. Jay knows he won over Nas. It’s just like ppl not wanting Floyd Mayweather being undefeated but he is. Ppl say Floyd has lost fights but his record shows otherwise.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 года назад +1

      Jay Z own people said they lost ....

    • @warispeaceignoranceisstren704
      @warispeaceignoranceisstren704 2 года назад

      Even Dame Dash and Steve Stout told Jay not to fuck with Nas. Jay let Lyor Cohen hyped him up to get his soul snatched by Nas!🤣

  • @gooseman1011
    @gooseman1011 2 года назад +3

    charlmage is a jay z fan...he knows that a diss track doesnt necessarily revolve around facts because jayz wasnt also speaking facts, he referenced factual events and sensationalized them. Charlmange knows that ether is the better song period...better diss track period...better on all counts...he's just butt hurt about it

  • @Dreday-dp1jp
    @Dreday-dp1jp 5 лет назад +6

    1 hot album every 10 year average.... Jay z won

    • @cibida1
      @cibida1 5 лет назад +1

      andre johnson nah. First off, Jay was off saying “you been in this ten I been in this five” by his measurements, for himself he was talking about when his first album released (5 years before Takeover was 96 when Doubt came out). We all know Jay was rapping before 96 (Hawaiian Sophie etc). Ten years before Takeover was 1991. Illmatic came out in 94. That one hot album every ten year average Line was off. Plus, It Was Written is classic and Jay knows it!

  • @LUNIX42
    @LUNIX42 2 года назад +1

    “If you look at the liner notes on ‘Dead Presidents,’ Nas is one of the publishers,” MC Serch admitted on “Drink Champs.” Nas owns a piece of JAY’s catalogue. And that’s a fact.”

  • @treyvonnerobinson
    @treyvonnerobinson 2 года назад +1

    Charlemagne sounds emotional 💀💀💀 another hurt Jay-Z stan 💀

  • @rortiz1301
    @rortiz1301 6 лет назад +3

    Ok but what about the first track: Stillmatic Freestyle (paid in full beat). One of the most creative and amazing disses ever. That > Ether.

    • @rortiz1301
      @rortiz1301 6 лет назад +2

      Stop in Philly, order cheese steaks and eat Beans fast
      And bring it back up top, remove the fake king of New York
      You show off, I count dough off when you sample my voice
      I rule you, before, you used to rap like the Fu-Schnickens
      Nas designed your Blueprint, who you kidding?
      Is he H to the izz-O, M to the izz-O?
      For shizzle you phony, the rapping version of Sisqo
      And that's for certain, you clone me, your wack clothes line
      I'd rather Sean John, you bore me with your fake coke rhymes
      And those times, they never took place, you liar
      Un was your first court case, you had no priors
      You master fabricated stories of streets and sound slick
      Have you surrounded, you and the faggots you down with
      While they riding Nas, trying to boost their careers
      Corny as Cormega, all you Hip-Hop queers
      Since Illmatic, It Was Written, I Am Nastradamus
      That's the answers to the puzzle I gave you, now here's a promise
      My next few albums, instead of projects
      They'll be a difficult test inside the cover for the mind's optics

  • @baylenwaterhouse8781
    @baylenwaterhouse8781 7 лет назад +5

    Why does everyone sleep on the super ugly freestyle where jay destroys anything Nas said on ether?!?!?

  • @sloaiza81
    @sloaiza81 Год назад +1

    What a pair of fools these 2 are! Ether was about Jay Z's soul. You can't go deeper than that. Greatest diss track ever.

  • @youforget1000thingsaday
    @youforget1000thingsaday 3 года назад +2

    How did he sound emotional? 💀 Char sound more emotional than Nas.

  • @reefwillie
    @reefwillie 9 лет назад +4

    Ether was weak; it was lite...

  • @btwizzle123
    @btwizzle123 9 лет назад +6

    super ugly was at Nas and was the actual reply track to Ether but everybody seems to forget that...you want to know why, cause it was weak...

  • @AH-mq9fn
    @AH-mq9fn 2 года назад +2

    Everyone knows Nas spits bullets, the fact that he used "immature" lines to destroy Jays makes it lethal.

  • @kilo1981kilo
    @kilo1981kilo 3 года назад +2

    “he who angers you conquers you”

  • @THECH0SEN0NE82
    @THECH0SEN0NE82 8 лет назад +4

    takeover>ether

  • @DatDJT
    @DatDJT 2 года назад +3

    Ether was super corny super elementary embarrassing lyrics. Has not aged well. Takeover is a classic.

  • @reggiejeangilles3600
    @reggiejeangilles3600 2 года назад +2

    Actually no nas did get paid from that

  • @sameeknowsitall
    @sameeknowsitall Год назад +1

    Takeover was just as good ether in my opinion.

  • @ahmahdjohnson6643
    @ahmahdjohnson6643 8 лет назад +3

    those are the best disses why u think him em up, no vaseline, and real muthaphukkin gs are some of the hottest disses ever it's because the emotion behind it

  • @oneandonlyescaton9927
    @oneandonlyescaton9927 4 года назад +6

    Takeover is one of the dopest beats ever with one of the weakest, low energy choruses. Ethers chorus is literally a thesis statement which he then developes further and provides evidence to support the initial statement AND its actually ear catching.

    • @sugs1191
      @sugs1191 2 года назад +2

      That's absolute garbage btw. The Chorus on The Takeover was awesome. Ether chorus was weak.

  • @AstaIsAMonster
    @AstaIsAMonster 2 года назад +2

    NAS bodied Jay

  • @adambeecroft9305
    @adambeecroft9305 3 месяца назад +2

    😂corny??? Charlemagne is the corny one

  • @FirstPlace97
    @FirstPlace97 8 лет назад +3

    "Jay won overall obviously," as I recall, he started the bullshit and then got exposed. Dumb idea, and no, Nas was the clear winner, and Illmatic is better than his whole career.

  • @couchpotatoguy4397
    @couchpotatoguy4397 9 лет назад +6

    I guess these guys never heard of super ugly which also was a very emotional song.

    • @abenice
      @abenice 9 лет назад +3

      Wasn't emotional it's was factual and he was laughing all on the song. Shit was dope and vicious!!

    • @couchpotatoguy4397
      @couchpotatoguy4397 9 лет назад +1

      abe nice it was just as emotional and factual as either. Takeover was at the same level as the stillmatic freestyle. Also to add nas still won the battle

    • @abenice
      @abenice 9 лет назад +1

      Ruby black your entitled to that opinion I believe Jay won and it's even more so proven now! What the fuck Nas doing now? Lol

    • @couchpotatoguy4397
      @couchpotatoguy4397 9 лет назад +2

      abe nice Nas is just as regarded a Jay-z don't try to discredit his achievements because you not one of his fans. Besides they did a poll on hot97 to claim a winner of the battle and Nas one. Now don't get it twisted Jay-z in my opinion is still a genius but he lost. Now two his credit only two rappers have ever bested him and that is Nas and Tupac. It is what it is and I do respect your opinion many people feel he beat Nas

    • @abenice
      @abenice 9 лет назад +1

      Yeah they did a poll after the fact Jay changed him to a batte life which is how a battle is truely done. I believe jay would have won that too. nas wisely turned that down . And I am a fan of nas.
      Question how did those best Jay they never battled?

  • @supernova2897
    @supernova2897 2 года назад +2

    Ether was corny???? Charla for sure in the firm! Now he wearing dresses....Full circle

    • @justarandominternetdude2579
      @justarandominternetdude2579 2 года назад

      Tbh, when Ether drop CTG was in the boonies doing radio. He legit doesn’t know the history nor the impact this record had in the city. Imo, if the majority of the city had Nas winning. Then Nas won.

  • @ghostshipone
    @ghostshipone 3 года назад +2

    Everyone should notice Nas does not or want to talk about Ether at all any more. He did his job. Finished it. Moved on like an adult

    • @willsmooth1355
      @willsmooth1355 3 года назад

      Facts. Its only the losers like young guru that try to rewrite history.