Do cables REALLY make a difference?! | testing different guitar, and non-guitar cables
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2020
- Hey guys! I know you have probably heard this before " I only by X brand cable with gold tips because I want to make sure my audio quality is pro AF ", but do the cables really make any difference at all? I've always thought this was mostly snake oil, but decided to do some testing of my own on some popular guitar, and non-guitar related cables!
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I noticed the difference between amp sim on and off. They all sound way better with the amp sim on :)
😂 true.
I liked it better with the amp sim off. Sounded like bluegrass picking. Roy Clark would have been proud :D
I couldn't really detect a major difference, except that maybe the mogami cable seems to have a stronger output signal, as it seems to have a higher quality wiring. Pretty neat experiment!
Thanks Ronny! 🙌 to be honest, I had no idea. Was kind of surprised to listen back myself..
I'm new to the channel but really enjoy your comparison video and reviews. The differences are very subtle, but I guess Monster Bass is the most low end (go figure :P) and maaaaaybe a little bit more muddy (maybe :P). What surprised me the most is that I really liked Line 6 X2. Nice and clear tone which is very impressive for 10-years old used wireless equipment.
I found the most striking difference between wireless and wired. The wireless sounded muffled to me. I was surprised by that, like it's lacking something, like high end. And now, looking back at the spectrum analyzer, you can clearly see it rolled off in the top end compared with the Mogami Gold, at least with the amp sim off. You can also see the Monster Bass cable accentuating bass. Great test!
The monster cable attenuated the high frequencies. I did hear that, otherwise, not a big difference between the other cables and the wireless signal.
Longer cables will roll off the highs when using passives pickups. Usually keep the cables to 6ft when I track and use a di box when making long runs. Active pickups on the other hand let you run longer cables but I have not noticed any differences besides shielding quality in cheaper cables vs expensive cables.
Good feedback!
I feel like the real test would be in an environment with a ton of electromagnetic interference, like on a stage with a bunch of lights. I bet there is a difference in the shielding of some of those cables, though I'm not sure how much difference it would make even still.
Mogami had more output but maybe that could be affected by the lenght or the purity grade on the copper, maybe the most notable difference is if you had bat ears and you are a true king of the tone, but for the average user
that doesnt matter at all
Totally! Hmm, could be. I think the mogami is the shortest of the bunch... but not by much
the output monitor showed a pretty much dead on similarity between mogami and others. i noticed no discernible amount of added compression that would result from the extra signal output, which would've actually leveled out the guitars output peaks and the overall RMS peaks would've dropped to lower levels requiring a notch up from the input pre-amp, which would've been noticeable from the output meter.
Okay. I was “that guy”, and I listened to this through my iPhone speaker, but I could still hear a slight difference. It was very slight, but there was a difference. If anything I’d say that the Monster bass cable has a bit less bass than the other cables.
that would be because iphone speakers literally fart out less bass... when more bass is pushed... you were warned! haha
😂 all good. Thanks for the honesty
Actually the monster cable has more thumpzzz, the line 6 sounds compressed, the futomaki sounds mid-hi open-loose, and the first one lgrsxyz sounds normal, probably because it serves as the reference by being the 1st one.
Hi! I wondering if i change my tipical ts Guitar cable for a trs cable it will be reduce the noise and if i use trs it cause any trobles bettwen the amp and the Guitar?
I dont think so, but try it out!
I think it's primarily the higher frequencies that will be attenuated by a higher impedance cable (which increases with length of the cable of course, but different cables also vary in their impedance/ft). I do seem to hear a bit more going on in the higher frequencies with the Mogami compared to the others, but it is very subtle for sure. Having two of each, one from guitar to pedalboard, and one from pedalboard to amp/interface, the differences, if any, should be exaggerated a bit more.
You're probably right. I dont have enough cables for that experiment!
I think just buy quality cables with a lifetime warranty and you are good. Mogami is always a safe bet, also love Rattlesnake Cable Company.
Yeah, but it's capacitance, not impedance. More capacitance will cause the lo-pass filter, and the resonant peak at the edge of it, to move downwards. Try comparing a 20' and a 10' version of the same cable :-D If you wanna make a really long cable, chose one from the top of this list: www.shootoutguitarcables.com/guitar-cables-explained/capacitance-chart.html
Do a vid on speaker cable vs instrument cable?
i felt like if there WAS a difference, it was in the monster cable, it sounded like it had a role off at a reasonably high frequency on the DI guitar track. I was using flat response IEM's. The difference was small, and likely i wouldn't have ever noticed had i not been listening intently for a difference, passers by would not be able to tell. so i guess monsters are... worse?
😂 maybe they're just fulfilling that promise of better bass response. I didnt notice any difference when editing. But I was using monitors and focused on a task, so I'd trust your observation more.
@@TaylorDanley yeah, like i said, i wouldn't have noticed had i not been sitting there hitting rewind on the keyboard and listening like i hawk with in ears shoving sound right in my cranium. bass cable, gotta be more bass i guess. lol
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to break it to you cable enthusiast out there (if there's any) the cable itself WILL NOT MAKE any sort of tonal change, the thing is we buy expensive cables not to change the tone but for other structural reasons.
I feel like you are taking away my reasons for having horrible tone. I used to be able to blame the cables. Now what excuse will I use?!?! Just saying I suck seems kind of lazy.
😂 you can blame cables if you want, I wont tell 🤫
Always blame amps and pedals. Most of them have mixed reviews anyway :D
I need a cable that djents more!!!
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The Mogami seemed to have more output in your test (and mine). I mostly buy Mogami because of the lifetime warranty, they sound a tad better than the other I have and if they ever fuck up, I can just return it and get another one, for-ev-er. BTW, where's the quarantine riff reaction videos? You said you'd do it at the end of the month, we're way passed that.
I've noticed a difference between different brands. I used a gold plated monster cable for tracking DI for YEARS and when I switched to a planet waves cable things seemed darker
🤔 was it a longer cable?
Magick copper is magical!!
😂😂😂 hey that cable has REAL GOLD, that's where the tone comes from
@@TaylorDanley CARBONITE FIBER NANO TUBE TOANZ!!?
One thing that I noticed when I listened through my phone speaker, pressing it right up to my head, is that they all sounded close. But mostly like garbage.
I may be crazy but I’m hearing more more clarity with the mogami cable
Nothing That drastic I noticed really. Mogami def has most output level. Monster seemed a little high fq rolled off. Even the wireless seems to have more presence compared to monster.
I personally noticed the real difference while using a coiled aka ‘vintage’ cable - that thing has some noticeable attenuation happening. On the other hand Paul Gilbert uses those and doesn’t give a tad, whether it’s good sounding cable or not, as he said in one of the interviews, ‘I never really used anything else, so I don’t care how different it sounds’
Interesting. I've never noticed personally.. I think the reason you go for a more expensive cable is because they typically carry lifetime guarantees!
Seriously, I got headphones on and I still can't hear any difference between the cables. I guess I am THAT guy.............
no you r right, the only difference should be extra noise on bad cable, i guess...
Well, actually I can hear the differences even from the phone. Both DI and amped.
I weared headphones and still didn't heard the differences
The one with the best warranty is the one I buy.
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The Mogami cable is more expressive and sounded more pleasant. The monster reproduces low and mid frequencies well, but the sound is softened, as if we are hearing through bad radio tissue.
The bass cable did have more bass the line 6 had more clarity, over all they were pretty close, get your self a Analysis plus cable and try this again.
Not sure if it's a valid test if you are comparing not only different cables, but different takes as well. Anyway, I don't care about the cables, but after trying silent Neutrik connector, there is no way back. Not tone-wise - I have no idea if it's a factor, it's just durable and convenient as hell. You can plug and unplug all you want with zero noise from the amp.
How would I compare the same take though? 🤷♂️ theres definitely low quality cables out there that will give you unwanted noise, but I think the best selling point on the higher end cables is the lifetime warranty. That pays for itself within a few years (unless you lose your cable lol)
@@TaylorDanley Yeah, there is no way to compare the same take. I was thinking about using different cables from the looper to the sound card, but you have to connect guitar to the looper with some cable to begin with.
It's a catch 22 for sure!
I just discovered your channel a few weeks ago. It's nice to see a metal guy who's knowledgeable and not a douchebag. May other metal guitarists take lesson. And I see absolutely no difference in sound. I think high end cables are either built for longevity or status. Buying a cheap 10 dollar cable wont last as long or make you look cool like a mogami or monster will, but also wont effect your tone one way or another. The advantage in cheap cables is you can buy several at a time and when one goes bad, you simply change it out and move on. I usually buy at least 2 at a time when I venture into my local guitar shop. But, if you want to avoid spending 10 bucks every few months or so, then get the expensive ones. It makes no difference to me. I doubt anyone listened to Eddie Van Halen and wondered what cables he was using.
There are whole corners of Reddit and such dedicated to EVERY single component that VH used.
"Is X brand of pot better than Y brand?"
Look it up. Let the world know your findings in that endless rabbit hole... 😑
It's not magic, and it's not complex. Any difference in sound is due to cable CAPACITANCE combined with passive (high impedance) pickups. A different total CAPACITANCE will sound different. This total is dependant on cable CAPACITANCE and length. If you use active pickups, cable CAPACITANCE makes no difference at all.
Did I mention CAPACITANCE? No magic, and it doesn't cost money. Completely free physics knowledge.
If I know the total capacitance of your cable, I can cut ANY other brand of cable and make it sound exactly the same. It will likely differ in length though.
TRS sounds nasty, Mogami sounds clear, monster cable nasty, wireless lack of clear bass,
You're kidding right? You're the one that's supposed tell us what differences YOU noticed. What a waste of of 08:11 Cheeses man. You expect viewers watching on all sorts of different devices can tell the difference. You're standing right there monitoring the output.
This guy will never give an opinion on anything unless it is sponsored or free gear....