Of course, imho your reviews are best-of-the-best, no doubt about that. How many weeks took you to complete all those tests? Monumental amount of work for a youtube channel, this is a pro level review way beyond the wildest dreams of any gear magazine.
Thanks! It actually took about an hour and a half to film each test. But I played it in my head over and over for months trying to find the right approach for each one. Many ideas didn't work first but eventually I found solutions to all topics I wanted to cover. Actually, it worked as soon as I put everything into practical context, like stiffness
Next on the agenda: Guitar Cables? Also, do you think that is would be safe to say that investing in Long (high capacity), but sturdy cables AND a good Buffer will solve most of the problems?
Maybe :) something like that. I guess it really depends on how you gonna use it. For recording i'd better go for a short cable, like 1.5 meters or something. For live, chances are, no one in the audience will hear any difference. I'd go for wireless anyway :) But long cable + buffer is a good question. I'll make some tests!
Just wanted to say I was not expecting the direction of this video nor such detailed info. The effort you took is more than appreciated. Thank you, Max.
I would say that you, sir, have a high score of -49.5db. That is, no noise! Just real information. Thank you for all your good work. You are my guiding light for patch cables!
Wow. Thank you and Sharla for the time and effort. Really saved me a bunch of time reading reviews. Admittedly had to FF to the conclusion. Was so surprised re the Lava and Mogami results. Subscribed!
Dude! I’m late to see this video, but thank you so much for putting in all this work. I’m in the process of deciding what cables to switch to & this was the most helpful thing anywhere on the internet!
This is one of the best videos ever related to guitar and sound improvement!! This is how to do a review, thanks for taking the time. You have a new subscriber. Greetings from Mexico!!
This is an incredible video, I’m so thankful that you put the time and effort into making this a very logical and in depth review instead of using some random words to try and compare them like other youtubers might. You did an amazing job, you deserve more views
This is just incredible work, Max! Easy to follow tests and results and you even included your documentation for download. Thank you so much! I will definitely be rethinking my EBS cables now! I was really excited about those Ibanez PA series.
Nick Humphrey hey, thanks for feedback. I figured it's really important how cables are used, not only the quality of isolation. Before overdrive or basically any gain stage isolation is essential. But once the signal passed that point, isolation is not that critical and EBS and others will do just fine most of the times
I have seen this video about 20 times, thank you very much for doing this Max Solo, many of us were anxious for a video comparison of guitar cables> 1m
well i found today your youtube channel and i guess i'm spending my "day-off" watching your vids ... lol ... great videos! just loving it ... could you do the same tests for guitar cables ... i trying to reduce my noise as much as possible ... :) thank you so much for your info's that teach me so much ... thank you ... from Portugal....
The problem with low noise cables is it looks great in a test but when you start playing the guitar is noticeably quieter and those important nuances and frequencies are being removed from your signal, I would have thought its best to have a noisy cable and a noise suppressor that kills the noise when you stop playing.
Now this is some pretty hard work ! Thanks for taking the time to do such things. This deserves much more views. I will go with Ernie Ball 6 inch cable since they come in a 3x pack for a good price where I live.
Dude . You kicked ASS with this video! Wow! Incredible insight on how some "High End" cables SUCK on noise etc ..you're my hero for doing this test! You ROCK! Greetings from Hollywood California!
It's been years ago. I believe both brands provided whatever was available at that time and I don't remember them having multiple different models listed online. Things might have changed dramatically since then. Even the models that look the same as those used in the video may nowadays be ordered by brands from other suppliers and be completely different inside
Great video and comparison, thanks! I will have to say though I own flat cables (EBS and Rockboard) and never had a sound issue neither on stage nor at home. On the other hand 3 of my sommer cables broke for no reason. And my old planet waves cables always seemed to push themselves out of the jack. So I will still go for the flat ones, simply because they are saving the most space and thus making your pedalboard easy to organize.
Nice to hear! I am planning on doing my first board using EBS PG patches only. These test seemed to only show that if you run cables with other noise on top on them or hit them with a fan that they would suck. I don't plan on doing either of those.
This patch cables test was the best I've seen on the internet. I was wondering if you've recently tested the Ernie Ball flat ribbon patch cables? I think they are different from the conventional flat cables you've tested. What's the opinion? Are they similar to which ones in this test? Thanks
Hey dude loved this video so much! Have you considered doing this same thing but with instrument cables? It'd be so cool to see how they compare in these tests.
Very good test! Next, I'd like to see you do one on 1/4"-to--1/4" studio or instrument interconnect cables ( -since just about every musician and recording enthusiast uses them ) and there aren't many tests of them on RUclips. However, this time I'd like to actually HEAR what music sounds like through the cables ( -in addition to the measurements ). Overall, great job! Really enjoyed watching this video.
Upgraded all my patch cables to Providence P203 and no more noise, weird squeeling sounds and less tone loss. Thanks for the comparison! Only downside to the providence are the availability in Europe and their stiffness.
Trying to get an all providence p203 patch cable setup ,but their cables are next to impossible to get.Here in the u.s ,there impossible to purchase.sometimes available in Europe, but with expensive shipping fees!. They need to get better distribution.
This was a good video Max. It was very informative and an eye opener for sure. Those DiMarzio cables were quite a shocker to see in addition to the Lava cables.
Hello Max, Have you try D'Addario Accessories DIY Solderless Cable Kit with Mini Plugs (PW-MGPKIT-10)? Do you update sometimes your result file to add more cables?
Thank you for this! In your "cables safe to use" list, are they in order from "Best" or is that list in a random order from everything that met those standards?
Hi. I didn't have a chance to try any of their solderless cables, so I can't really tell. Although, considering the fact that soldered V206 are good I can assume when assembled correctly solderless version should be good as well. It's hard to believe but my best DIY cables use the cheapest plugs (all metal) and very cheap back in the days petro-sound cable. Must have been some chinese stuff. I don't know how but they managed to beat almost all commercially produced cables in terms of properties balance. I built then back in 2005 I guess and i'm still using them
Absolutely fantastic! Thank you so much for this! Just what I was after.. Finally someone has done this.. and talk about doing it "thorough".. Making my choice so much simpler and reliable, so I need not feel insecure.. And for so long people have said the cable don't matter, in this way or that way.. I guess that argument is settled too.. :)) THANK YOU!!
WOW!!!!! 1st of all, i'm typing with a PS4 controller, so you know i'm sincere. I've been gigging 30 years as of 2019 (Yeah I'm an old dude lol) anyway, I have never seen a more in-depth comparison of Anything! Your due diligence for this review is astounding!!! From myself, and everyone I've ever jammed or gigged with, THANK YOU!!!
Very thorough and useful. I’ve been looking into getting new patch cables and this was in valuable for seeing which ones to avoid or consider. I really liked the ergonomics of flat cables but it seems that they Can get more noise do to less isolation. I’m going to go back over the lists and determine what’s the best balance of profile, and flexibility versus noise. You just saved a lot of people I ton off frustrated purchasing and re-purchasing. Thanks!
So from what I'm seeing, those Ibanez PA0105 for weight and the Providence V206 seem to offer the best results, overall. Of course, I can't find a supplier in the USA...
Exactly! It looks like EMG is the official distributor for Providence products in the US. I'm surprised that there are no cables even at the Ibanez USA website. Didn't see this coming. you know what, i'll address this question to Ibanez
Ok, here's what I found out. For some reason Ibanez really didn't bring any cables to the US market. More than that, the PA series is completely sold out in Europe and there's no more of it in stock. It may be coming back some time soon though
They'd be sold out in the States too! From the performance, to the size, those things are really awesome, Ibanez isnmissing out on easy money. Thanks for looking into them!
Very interesting and well-produced video. I run two pedalboards (one for line-in and the other for my amp's effects loop), so of course I've got some pretty long chains. That said, I especially enjoyed the "fan test" tip... Absolutely brilliant, thank you! 💯
hmm, I was researching electric wire to rebuild my car loom... glad I stumbled upon your video though. Great in depth testing.. cheers Now put that effort into making your own at home to add to the comparison, how cheap you can build it and how well it performs.
I have/use Monster Cable EVERYTHING from 2001, a lot of it disappeared during a rough time in my life. 4 Boss & a Morley Wha pedal also disappeared or were sold after a 10.5 year hiatus to start up again.
Never played through anything but Monster Cable which I know was quite expensive 22 years ago, so I'm sure there's some overly expensive replacement. Now if I need a cable my dad makes one for me out of decent instrument cable he has & gets some 90 right angle ends, solders them onto the cable & lets me know what the ends costs.
First, thank you so much for the very eloborate and well organize presentation/review! I'm very impressed. Second, for my particular application and budget, and based on your results, I'm going with the new EBS PG (gold plated) patch cable. I does very well in the capitance and ground loop tests, but not so good on the diffusion test and "mechanical" test. Since I'll be using short, well secured patch cables on my board, I'm not concerned about mechanical noise. As for the diffusion test, my patch cables, unlike by guitar cables, will not be laying next to power cords like in your test, so I'm no too concerned about that. And finally, the new EBS gold plated cables have the smallest and lowest profile of any other cable. Since have a crowded pedal board, that is a big plug for sure. Does this conclusion make sense?
Hey. Yeah, it does make sense. Although, i'd recommend using cables with more protection before any gain stages - where the signal is more vulnerable. You can make a simple test - turn gain on your distortion pedal to maximum and try different cables before it, i'm sure you'll notice some difference. Once the signal has passed gain stages, pretty much any cable will do.
I use all 4 sizes of the EBS PG cables and my amp tech was telling me I waste money on the gold plating cause you will wear it out after several plug-ins. He said just get the regular plating to save money. Kinda made sense to me. All mine are GOLD plated.
@@MaxSoloMusic You just gave important advice. I dread testing my new board. I've probably destroyed more pedals forcing them apart for changing cords. High gain is such a pain to tame.
Mooer PC-6 also a contender for best all-rounder, Providence V206 great too (but way too expensive!) Mooer FC-6 are quite good too if you can bare the possibility of a little crosstalk interference. HOSA IRG 100.5 are bit better with crosstalk, but worse with groundloop noise (not that there should be much of that in a proper set-up anyway). They are only $15-30 for a bundle of them though, so they make a great affordable, lightweight option. Alongside the somewhat meatier, but more reliable Ernie Ball 3-packs for about $25. These are all low capacitance for boards with lots of true bypass pedals, but a decent buffer at the start of the pedal chain would probably match them in performance anyway. Great info on buffers to be found here: All Things Buffers! - RUclips ruclips.net/video/xPLVZOnKyso/видео.html Not All Buffers Are Created Equal - RUclips ruclips.net/video/KafO8IP6vEY/видео.html
@@fuckenps3 The problem with the mooer pc 6 is the connector : the round end that plugs the connector/crimps the cable can "break" off. I've had to blue back multiple ones. I don't use a pedalboard though, if they are fixed in one position it should be ok
Great video, I appreciate the work you've put in. Good objective data. On a side note, I don't suppose you have done any tests with the newer Ernie Ball pancake style patch cables? The regular ones produced solid numbers and the price is great but the smaller pancake's would save a lot of room on the board. Also, do you have any similar info for regular length (~10-20ft) instrument cables? There's a ton of subjective reviews out there but not a lot of hard numbers.
Hey, awesome video! Not sure if you are still monitoring this comment section. I have a question on the diffusion test. If I understood it correctly, you are running a signal from an amp through a speaker cable and the patch cables are picking it up. This signal should me significantly stronger than a typical signal through the patch cables. Would cables that perform poorly in this test pick up signal from adjacent patch cables even if the signal is weaker? I’m having noise issues and have quite a few EBS deluxe (argh). None run together with a speaker signal, but I have them arranged in bundles to route them through the board. Would this be a potential problem or is the signal too weak?
This is very good, and very entertaining, but I see one small problem. At 14:15 you turn off the Small Stone to measure the noise picked up by the cable. But this is not a fair test because when the Small Stone is off its output impedance is much higher than it would be when on and in use. So you're not really measuring what you think. Better is to turn on the Small Stone, with its input connected to a passive guitar whose output volume is set to minimum. Otherwise, great job!
Thanks Ethan. Here's the thing, Small Stone has a true bypass switch and pedal's input jack is shortened to the ground when nothing is plugged into it. If I use another cable to connect a guitar, its properties may dramatically affect the outcome. But anyway, the Small Stone test is rather entertaining and demonstrates that in this context some cables are significantly different. I just watched your video on the Null Tester and it's awesome. I love stuff like that. And I can agree with the statement that if two things measure the same they certainly should sound the same!
Hey Sean. It all depends on components and how they are put together. I had no chance to test any DIY kits. Normally using well isolated low capacitance cable with metal plugs gives good results
Lol thanks for the video, I was actually thinking to buy the mxr 6 inch patch cables before this video because it has the "pancake" tip to save space on my board but found out it is noisy AF in this video. I wonder if I use a decent isolated power supply, will the noise problem still be there? If so, what cables do you recommend in my "space saving" situation?
Holy shit... the work that went into this.... WOW!
Holy crab! EytschPi himself commented on my video! Nice :)
Of course, imho your reviews are best-of-the-best, no doubt about that. How many weeks took you to complete all those tests? Monumental amount of work for a youtube channel, this is a pro level review way beyond the wildest dreams of any gear magazine.
Thanks! It actually took about an hour and a half to film each test. But I played it in my head over and over for months trying to find the right approach for each one. Many ideas didn't work first but eventually I found solutions to all topics I wanted to cover. Actually, it worked as soon as I put everything into practical context, like stiffness
Next on the agenda: Guitar Cables? Also, do you think that is would be safe to say that investing in Long (high capacity), but sturdy cables AND a good Buffer will solve most of the problems?
Maybe :) something like that. I guess it really depends on how you gonna use it. For recording i'd better go for a short cable, like 1.5 meters or something. For live, chances are, no one in the audience will hear any difference. I'd go for wireless anyway :) But long cable + buffer is a good question. I'll make some tests!
This is exactly how all reviews should be done, with real data. Outstanding video!
This is without a doubt the most scientific and helpful review of any musical gear ever done..... Well done sir! very very helpful!
Probably one of the most important videos for pedal lovers.
Just wanted to say I was not expecting the direction of this video nor such detailed info. The effort you took is more than appreciated. Thank you, Max.
Would there be any difference between the flat angle Ernie Ball and the Ernie Ball cable you used here? Thanks for a great video
I would say that you, sir, have a high score of -49.5db. That is, no noise! Just real information. Thank you for all your good work. You are my guiding light for patch cables!
Very interesting and detailled comparison test. I'd like to see how the EBS High Performance compare since they came out after your test (2019).
this is one of the best review I've ever seen anywhere. a whole new level!
Simply amazing! Thank you so much. The amount of work you put on this should be greatly appreciated!
That's the most serious dedication to reach the holy grail of tones I've seen!
Dude, great job, we need more people like you doing their job!
Wow. Thank you and Sharla for the time and effort. Really saved me a bunch of time reading reviews. Admittedly had to FF to the conclusion.
Was so surprised re the Lava and Mogami results.
Subscribed!
Dude! I’m late to see this video, but thank you so much for putting in all this work. I’m in the process of deciding what cables to switch to & this was the most helpful thing anywhere on the internet!
Wow, just wow. This the best video on patch cables in history. You might be a world record holder!
This is one of the best videos ever related to guitar and sound improvement!! This is how to do a review, thanks for taking the time. You have a new subscriber. Greetings from Mexico!!
Great focus - I will return when I like atcual resuts for musical equipment - This channel did much better than others
Wow, very very impressive comparison, and way more in-depth than I expected.
Extremely well done. You deserve an applause!
You are pure class. Thank you for the huge work you put into this.
The real giveaway was the information and testing done for this video. Thank you for doing this!
I cannot believe all the work that this involved! Seriously, thank you for this info and being an asset to our community!!
This is an incredible video, I’m so thankful that you put the time and effort into making this a very logical and in depth review instead of using some random words to try and compare them like other youtubers might. You did an amazing job, you deserve more views
That was a great and timely video for me as i was considering buying some patch cables. Thank you very much.
What a great comparison. Thanks for the effort!
You're a true legend for doing all this!
Thanks :)
This is just incredible work, Max! Easy to follow tests and results and you even included your documentation for download. Thank you so much! I will definitely be rethinking my EBS cables now! I was really excited about those Ibanez PA series.
Nick Humphrey hey, thanks for feedback. I figured it's really important how cables are used, not only the quality of isolation. Before overdrive or basically any gain stage isolation is essential. But once the signal passed that point, isolation is not that critical and EBS and others will do just fine most of the times
Nice! Thanks
Most thorough and succinct patch cable analysis to date, thank you for making life easier for the rest of us
I have seen this video about 20 times, thank you very much for doing this Max Solo, many of us were anxious for a video comparison of guitar cables> 1m
This is the patch cable bible. Holy shit...Thank you very much for the enormous work done.
Thanks for doing the work. I’ll be putting in an order for a few of these tomorrow.
This is incredible. First time viewer. Made me sub. Great humor and scientific passion.
Muy buen video
Termine escogiendo los ernie ball por la calidad y el precio.
Wow! Excellent testing. Hats off to this. The hard work is noticed and appreciated by all.
I love your data based approach. Your spreadsheet is super helpful.
well i found today your youtube channel and i guess i'm spending my "day-off" watching your vids ... lol ... great videos! just loving it ... could you do the same tests for guitar cables ... i trying to reduce my noise as much as possible ... :) thank you so much for your info's that teach me so much ... thank you ... from Portugal....
Hey. Thanks for your feedback. I'll be doing more videos on cables. I've already got some samples, just need to find time to film
Wow, really enjoyed this shit. Now I know that I wasn’t wrong looking for those Ernie ball cables
The problem with low noise cables is it looks great in a test but when you start playing the guitar is noticeably quieter and those important nuances and frequencies are being removed from your signal, I would have thought its best to have a noisy cable and a noise suppressor that kills the noise when you stop playing.
Now this is some pretty hard work ! Thanks for taking the time to do such things. This deserves much more views.
I will go with Ernie Ball 6 inch cable since they come in a 3x pack for a good price where I live.
Yep, those are neat!
Dude . You kicked ASS with this video! Wow! Incredible insight on how some "High End" cables SUCK on noise etc ..you're my hero for doing this test! You ROCK! Greetings from Hollywood California!
Thanks for the great tests.
what "Ernie Ball 6in" did you use? there's several different types that look identical to the ones on the video. Same goes for Dean Markley 6in.
It's been years ago. I believe both brands provided whatever was available at that time and I don't remember them having multiple different models listed online. Things might have changed dramatically since then. Even the models that look the same as those used in the video may nowadays be ordered by brands from other suppliers and be completely different inside
This was soooo nerdy (in a good way) and scientific! Awesome test, RUclips needs more of you, man!
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Hey, thanks! Working on it :)
This is absolutely amazing. Thank you so much for doing all this! Now if only those Ibanez cables were available in the USA :(
Great video and comparison, thanks! I will have to say though I own flat cables (EBS and Rockboard) and never had a sound issue neither on stage nor at home. On the other hand 3 of my sommer cables broke for no reason. And my old planet waves cables always seemed to push themselves out of the jack. So I will still go for the flat ones, simply because they are saving the most space and thus making your pedalboard easy to organize.
Nice to hear! I am planning on doing my first board using EBS PG patches only. These test seemed to only show that if you run cables with other noise on top on them or hit them with a fan that they would suck. I don't plan on doing either of those.
@@FreckleFoxShow Amen
This patch cables test was the best I've seen on the internet.
I was wondering if you've recently tested the Ernie Ball flat ribbon patch cables?
I think they are different from the conventional flat cables you've tested.
What's the opinion? Are they similar to which ones in this test?
Thanks
Great comparisson. I'm from Brazil and your videos blows my mind!
Отличный эксперимент! Спасибо!
Hey dude loved this video so much! Have you considered doing this same thing but with instrument cables? It'd be so cool to see how they compare in these tests.
Very good test! Next, I'd like to see you do one on 1/4"-to--1/4" studio or instrument interconnect cables ( -since just about every musician and recording enthusiast uses them ) and there aren't many tests of them on RUclips. However, this time I'd like to actually HEAR what music sounds like through the cables ( -in addition to the measurements ). Overall, great job! Really enjoyed watching this video.
Upgraded all my patch cables to Providence P203 and no more noise, weird squeeling sounds and less tone loss. Thanks for the comparison!
Only downside to the providence are the availability in Europe and their stiffness.
Oh yes! I need more providence in my life but it's nowhere to get!
Trying to get an all providence p203 patch cable setup ,but their cables are next to impossible to get.Here in the u.s ,there impossible to purchase.sometimes available in Europe, but with expensive shipping fees!. They need to get better distribution.
This was a good video Max. It was very informative and an eye opener for sure. Those DiMarzio cables were quite a shocker to see in addition to the Lava cables.
Un.be.li.ev.ab.le! Thx, man, this is one of the best vids for guitar nerds on the net. Cheers!
Thanks for feedback!
This video and accompany pdf are a great resource. Thanks for making them!
Thanks so much. I've been trying to sort through a lot of this. It really helps seeing all these different features examined.
Dude this has to be one of the greatest test for gear I've ever watched thank you so much
You are an absolute hero for doing this. Hats off
This is a really awesome video, thank you for your work and passion!
with just one video (this video),. you made me subscribe. well done reviewed. excelent work. im sure you put a lot effort into this.
Extremely well done, thank YOU! Now, any plans for making one comparing (long) guitar cables? :) Cheers!
I would be very interested into knowing what long guitar cables are best? Or safe.
This was an amazing test! Thanks so much for putting it together for the world, including me!
Вот это работа! Спасибо, Макс! Вопросов не осталось :-)
Отлично! Правда у меня ещё остались вопросы. Ответы в одной из следующих серий :)
Hello Max,
Have you try D'Addario Accessories DIY Solderless Cable Kit with Mini Plugs (PW-MGPKIT-10)?
Do you update sometimes your result file to add more cables?
Thank you for this! In your "cables safe to use" list, are they in order from "Best" or is that list in a random order from everything that met those standards?
Hi, What do you think about Providence V206 solder free kind? And what do you use for your own DIY cables ? amazing video!
Hi. I didn't have a chance to try any of their solderless cables, so I can't really tell. Although, considering the fact that soldered V206 are good I can assume when assembled correctly solderless version should be good as well. It's hard to believe but my best DIY cables use the cheapest plugs (all metal) and very cheap back in the days petro-sound cable. Must have been some chinese stuff. I don't know how but they managed to beat almost all commercially produced cables in terms of properties balance. I built then back in 2005 I guess and i'm still using them
Absolutely fantastic! Thank you so much for this! Just what I was after.. Finally someone has done this.. and talk about doing it "thorough".. Making my choice so much simpler and reliable, so I need not feel insecure.. And for so long people have said the cable don't matter, in this way or that way.. I guess that argument is settled too.. :))
THANK YOU!!
Hey. Thanks for feedback!
WOW!!!!! 1st of all, i'm typing with a PS4 controller, so you know i'm sincere. I've been gigging 30 years as of 2019 (Yeah I'm an old dude lol) anyway, I have never seen a more in-depth comparison of Anything! Your due diligence for this review is astounding!!! From myself, and everyone I've ever jammed or gigged with, THANK YOU!!!
Hey, thanks for your feedback! And May the 4th be with you, Calrisian
ps4 controller lol. weird flex
Very thorough and useful. I’ve been looking into getting new patch cables and this was in valuable for seeing which ones to avoid or consider. I really liked the ergonomics of flat cables but it seems that they Can get more noise do to less isolation. I’m going to go back over the lists and determine what’s the best balance of profile, and flexibility versus noise. You just saved a lot of people I ton off frustrated purchasing and re-purchasing. Thanks!
Great job! Excellent work and very helpful. I've been making my own cable for quite some time and will use some your tests to check them out. Thanks!
Thanks a lot! Really helpful test and one of the best reviews I've seen in some time!
Incredible work lad! Without doubt the best review of gear I have ever seen! Simply outstanding 😎
So from what I'm seeing, those Ibanez PA0105 for weight and the Providence V206 seem to offer the best results, overall. Of course, I can't find a supplier in the USA...
Exactly! It looks like EMG is the official distributor for Providence products in the US. I'm surprised that there are no cables even at the Ibanez USA website. Didn't see this coming. you know what, i'll address this question to Ibanez
Ok, here's what I found out. For some reason Ibanez really didn't bring any cables to the US market. More than that, the PA series is completely sold out in Europe and there's no more of it in stock. It may be coming back some time soon though
They'd be sold out in the States too! From the performance, to the size, those things are really awesome, Ibanez isnmissing out on easy money. Thanks for looking into them!
Best video ever, best effort.
Glad you think so!
this video deserves millions of views
Fantastic review! Great job!
Very interesting and well-produced video. I run two pedalboards (one for line-in and the other for my amp's effects loop), so of course I've got some pretty long chains. That said, I especially enjoyed the "fan test" tip... Absolutely brilliant, thank you! 💯
I must say you are the best tester on RUclips.
Mit Abstand der beste
Thanks :)
hmm, I was researching electric wire to rebuild my car loom... glad I stumbled upon your video though. Great in depth testing.. cheers
Now put that effort into making your own at home to add to the comparison, how cheap you can build it and how well it performs.
OK, do you have another list of which patch cables are usable and DON'T cost as much as a full-length instrument cable?
I have/use Monster Cable EVERYTHING from 2001, a lot of it disappeared during a rough time in my life. 4 Boss & a Morley Wha pedal also disappeared or were sold after a 10.5 year hiatus to start up again.
Never played through anything but Monster Cable which I know was quite expensive 22 years ago, so I'm sure there's some overly expensive replacement. Now if I need a cable my dad makes one for me out of decent instrument cable he has & gets some 90 right angle ends, solders them onto the cable & lets me know what the ends costs.
Was wondering if you have already tested new EBS cable and if it is still sensitive to the mechanical issues. Thank you.
Nope, never had a chance to try the new one
Great work - Good to avoid rip-offs by cable companies and good to know how to reduce noise. Wish could give it more thumbs up than 1.
First, thank you so much for the very eloborate and well organize presentation/review! I'm very impressed. Second, for my particular application and budget, and based on your results, I'm going with the new EBS PG (gold plated) patch cable. I does very well in the capitance and ground loop tests, but not so good on the diffusion test and "mechanical" test. Since I'll be using short, well secured patch cables on my board, I'm not concerned about mechanical noise. As for the diffusion test, my patch cables, unlike by guitar cables, will not be laying next to power cords like in your test, so I'm no too concerned about that. And finally, the new EBS gold plated cables have the smallest and lowest profile of any other cable. Since have a crowded pedal board, that is a big plug for sure. Does this conclusion make sense?
Hey. Yeah, it does make sense. Although, i'd recommend using cables with more protection before any gain stages - where the signal is more vulnerable. You can make a simple test - turn gain on your distortion pedal to maximum and try different cables before it, i'm sure you'll notice some difference. Once the signal has passed gain stages, pretty much any cable will do.
I use all 4 sizes of the EBS PG cables and my amp tech was telling me I waste money on the gold plating cause you will wear it out after several plug-ins. He said just get the regular plating to save money. Kinda made sense to me. All mine are GOLD plated.
@@MaxSoloMusic You just gave important advice. I dread testing my new board. I've probably destroyed more pedals forcing them apart for changing cords. High gain is such a pain to tame.
The Ibanez PA0105 seems to be the overall best. Thank you very much for this test. I was able to purchase some on amazon.com
Mooer PC-6 also a contender for best all-rounder, Providence V206 great too (but way too expensive!)
Mooer FC-6 are quite good too if you can bare the possibility of a little crosstalk interference.
HOSA IRG 100.5 are bit better with crosstalk, but worse with groundloop noise (not that there should be much of that in a proper set-up anyway). They are only $15-30 for a bundle of them though, so they make a great affordable, lightweight option. Alongside the somewhat meatier, but more reliable Ernie Ball 3-packs for about $25.
These are all low capacitance for boards with lots of true bypass pedals, but a decent buffer at the start of the pedal chain would probably match them in performance anyway.
Great info on buffers to be found here:
All Things Buffers! - RUclips
ruclips.net/video/xPLVZOnKyso/видео.html
Not All Buffers Are Created Equal - RUclips
ruclips.net/video/KafO8IP6vEY/видео.html
@@fuckenps3 The problem with the mooer pc 6 is the connector : the round end that plugs the connector/crimps the cable can "break" off. I've had to blue back multiple ones.
I don't use a pedalboard though, if they are fixed in one position it should be ok
The amount of work you did in this video is amazing!
Great video, I appreciate the work you've put in. Good objective data.
On a side note, I don't suppose you have done any tests with the newer Ernie Ball pancake style patch cables? The regular ones produced solid numbers and the price is great but the smaller pancake's would save a lot of room on the board.
Also, do you have any similar info for regular length (~10-20ft) instrument cables? There's a ton of subjective reviews out there but not a lot of hard numbers.
wow, ernie ball is decent, which is great since it's probably available everywhere and it's fairly cheap
But no Ernie ball are tested. Thinking of getting one
Hey, awesome video! Not sure if you are still monitoring this comment section. I have a question on the diffusion test. If I understood it correctly, you are running a signal from an amp through a speaker cable and the patch cables are picking it up. This signal should me significantly stronger than a typical signal through the patch cables. Would cables that perform poorly in this test pick up signal from adjacent patch cables even if the signal is weaker?
I’m having noise issues and have quite a few EBS deluxe (argh). None run together with a speaker signal, but I have them arranged in bundles to route them through the board. Would this be a potential problem or is the signal too weak?
I want to make my own patch cables. I thought about mogami 2524 for the job. Now I'm not sure. What cable would you recommend for diy job?
This is very good, and very entertaining, but I see one small problem. At 14:15 you turn off the Small Stone to measure the noise picked up by the cable. But this is not a fair test because when the Small Stone is off its output impedance is much higher than it would be when on and in use. So you're not really measuring what you think. Better is to turn on the Small Stone, with its input connected to a passive guitar whose output volume is set to minimum. Otherwise, great job!
Thanks Ethan. Here's the thing, Small Stone has a true bypass switch and pedal's input jack is shortened to the ground when nothing is plugged into it. If I use another cable to connect a guitar, its properties may dramatically affect the outcome. But anyway, the Small Stone test is rather entertaining and demonstrates that in this context some cables are significantly different. I just watched your video on the Null Tester and it's awesome. I love stuff like that. And I can agree with the statement that if two things measure the same they certainly should sound the same!
@@MaxSoloMusic Very good, thanks.
Thanks for this video, man! Really useful and awesome!
You got a sub from me for your excellent work. No opinions just hard data. Always the best technique.
You can do a part 2 for the frequency response of the cable, and their resistance as well, maybe the cable that had negative capacitance is shorted
Praise be to you. This was so informative.
What about update video? 2021 a lot of new cables on the flat side, Ernie Ball flats or better shielded EBS PCF HF
great demonstration
Great video, thanks!! Two questions... are solderless/soldered cables better than these? And any recommendation on popular DIY cables?
Hey Sean. It all depends on components and how they are put together. I had no chance to test any DIY kits. Normally using well isolated low capacitance cable with metal plugs gives good results
A long cable test would be awesome!
Lol thanks for the video, I was actually thinking to buy the mxr 6 inch patch cables before this video because it has the "pancake" tip to save space on my board but found out it is noisy AF in this video. I wonder if I use a decent isolated power supply, will the noise problem still be there? If so, what cables do you recommend in my "space saving" situation?
Super helpful video, Max.
Incredible video, thanks mannnn!!!