2024 Mazda CX 90 PHEV review // Better than the gas CX-90?
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2023
- This is a Motormouth couple car review of the all-new Mazda CX-90 PHEV plug-in hybrid SUV.
The Mazda CX-90 PHEV has a 2.5L 4-cylinder engine, a 68-kW electric motor, an 8-speed automatic transmission and a combined 323 horsepower and 369 lb-ft of torque on premium fuel. You can use regular fuel but the horsepower drops a little to 319, the torque number stays the same. It has a 17.8 kWh battery with 42 km/26 miles of range, Rear-Biased AWD.
The Mazda CX-90 PHEV earns a combined city/highway rating of 4.2Le/100km, 56 MPGe. With the battery depleted it gets a combined 9.4L/100km, 25 MPG.
The Mazda CX-90 PHEV has a 7.2 kW on-board charger, with a 240-volt outlet, it will take 90 minutes to charge from 20% to 80% and with a 120 volt outlet 6.4 hours.
The Mazda CX-90 PHEV qualifies for the Canadian Federal rebate of $2,500 and incentives in participating provinces. In the US, it does not qualify for the tax credit.
Our test model Mazda CX-90 PHEV is $59,950 CAD/$52,900 USD and has one additional feature, the exterior colour Soul Red Crystal Metallic for $495 CAD/$595 USD. It comes with some nice features like a hands-free power tailgate, panoramic sunroof, 12.3” driver display, 10.25” centre display, wired Apple Carplay and Android Auto (CA) wireless (US), 8-speaker audio system (CA) 12-speaker Bose system (US), heated front power seats, leatherette (CA) leather (US), heated steering wheel (CA). The heated steering wheel is standard on the top trim in the US.
The top trim of the Mazda CX-90 PHEV adds features like Nappa leather, 360-camera, ventilated front seats, driver seat memory, heated rear seats and in Canada the Bose Sound system. The US, also gets the larger 12.3” display screen on the top trim, which is not available on any trim in Canada.
The Mazda CX-90 PHEV base model is an 8-passenger vehicle in Canada and 7 or 8-passenger in the US. The top two trims 7-passenger only.
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0:47 unlike too many manufacturers these days, Mazda still knows that rear indicator lights are a separate amber lamp.
Glad zack was able to try the lower trim like he’s been dying to do!
The big factor for me is that the Kia’s are impossible to get. They’ve made so few it’s years away. I found out about the cx90 PHEV in feb and got one by May. Love it so far. Charge at home and at work and it runs mostly on electric. A cheap Amazon adapter makes it wireless CarPlay. The third row is mostly folded down to give me more space than my old RAV 4 had. Overall I’m happy.
I am still waiting for my CX-90 PHEV to be delivered but our usage patterns seem about the same. Like you I expect to be on electric most of the time with the 3rd row folded for "more than RAV 4" space. Glad to hear you are happy with it
Can u make a youtube review of ur car lol, would love to watch it
Maybe I will lol!
You bought a mega expensive car that needs Amazon adopter for wireless play?
@@keytothegate68 This is not mega expensive haha. Even some of the new Astons don't come with wireless carplay.
The Mazda vs Maw-zda doesn’t even give me pause. It’s the Kill-o meter vs Kilom-eter that catches my ear more. Love the content either way 👍
The 3rd row track feedback is impressive.
Love the exterior & interior looks good except the space for 3rd row seat. I already placed a refundable deposit but I think I will settle for the TX plug-in or Grand Highlander Hybrid max for more space and mileage. Love your videos!
Regarding how much gas a plug-in hybrid can save you, I drove a Chevy Volt plug-in hybrid 80k miles over six years, and according to the stats in the app I was driving over 90% of those miles on battery. I had a level 2 charger in my home, was very dedicated about plugging it in, and the car had an EV range of 53 miles. With a range under 30 miles, the percentage for me would have been a lot lower, because many times I made it home with little or no charge to spare.
another great and informative review. thanks.
Very good and comprehensive review.
Your content and reviews are the best.
I also love you both as a fun couple ❤️
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Thanks for the review, the simple fact is availability. The CX-90 is available to me immediately (although I did buy the last one on the lot). Kia cant even tell me when I can get a Sorento anytime soon. Hopefully the stiff suspension and heavy steering grows on me 😁😁
Hello to you both,
Nice review.
Love, Mazda vehicles
Mazda created a big expectation for the CX-90 and at the end it's a car that is far to be as promised, but at the same time with good condition to be improved.
I believe that the best decision is wait one or two years while Mazda implement some corrections as they did for CX-9.
Agree. I thought it'd exceed a 525 mi. range, but it's on par with my CX-9 with a 475-495 mi range. It's a '22 and it's paid off.
waiting for the regular gas engine review of the cx90 😊
Good Video Andrea & Zach Very Entertaining Love Your Reviews Already Pushed The S Button Years Ago
Awesome! Thank you!
For anyone wondering, the CX90 does charge itself while running. I find it odd that @motormouth would leave out this important option during their review! It has a charge button next to the gear selector. Once the EV battery is depleted you can simply activate the charging system until you're at full charge again. It takes approximately 150 to 180 kms for a full charge. No need to stop on those longer trips to charge the battery.
All PHEVs are able to charge themselves while driving using the gas engine. Most people don't charge on the road with PHEVs, they put it in hybrid mode and go. Fuel economy is not great when charging 150-180 kms using the gas engine. I did it and I was up at 12.8L/100 km.
The battery is considered depleted when at 20% capacity and the ICE will charge it no matter what you select to keep it above 20% as even at that low capacity, the electric motor will add to the ICE when power is needed. They system is very complex and there are so many variations that you would need a flow chart to explain them all.
@@andreaspencer9813that's what I thought but the Volt does not do that.
I heard in Canada, the bench setup actually has a one-touch automatic 3rd row egress feature? Were you able to see how effective that was in a bench model? Really odd they don't have that in the US
Love my 2022 venza hybrid limited i put a little over 1000 kilometers for 55 litre with ECO mode at all times don't need to plug in but don't worry one day toyota will provide the hybrid technology for Mazda because toyota own some Mazda shares the same Subaru starting from 2025 all Subaru will use toyota hybrid technology. Thanks for your video take care bye from milton Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
I had a reservation for the top end when it was announced and when car came to dealership, I cancelled for the reasons you mentioned. Fuel efficiency didn't make sense for the cost
How is this compared to the Outlander PHEV interns of drive-train refinement? Since the EV and gas transition process is seamless on our Outlander PHEV?
Fully charged battery gives you 25 miles (40 Km) of range. Combined gasoline economy is 25 Miles per gallon (40Km/gallon). So one battery charge saves no more than ONE gallon of gasoline. In my area, it costs more in electric cost to charge that battery than one gallon of gas. And that is even before you consider the $4,000 PHEV option cost.
For those with cheap electric prices and high gasoline prices, you are still looking at 4 or more year to break even on that PHEV option cost
Is that soul red crystal? Trying to decide which red to get but haven’t seen that one in person yet!
What do you guys recommend, family of 5 + inlaw(s) looking for a phev, this looks appealing or pacifica? There isn't much in the large family phev hauler segment?
Picked this up 3 weeks ago (PHEV GT ). Still on my first tank of gas, currently at 1300km and 1/4 of tank of gas still left. I drive into the City (Toronto) twice a week and charge religiously every night. If you can't charge to full daily, this is not for you. Loving it so far. Steering (options would be nice), suspension and seat stiffness could be improved but not a deal breaker for me. Love the look of the exterior and interior...at least at the top trim.
Glad to hear you are enjoying your CX-90 PHEV. I think this will work for many who do short trips daily. You will get great fuel economy if you charge it up and try to drive in EV mode most of the time. That's where you will get the most out of your PHEV.
We picked up our 2nd Outlander PHEV SEL the first week of April. As of today we still have just over 1/2 Tank of gas supplied by the dealership left when we picked it up and after just under 2800 kms. it shows we used 0.8L/100kms. We plug it into a level 1 charger each time we get home. Average estimate of available range each morning runs around 66Kms. The conversion in the software says this is about 332 miles per gallon. It qualifies for the full rebate and Has more options including heated front and rear leather seat plus wireless apple car play etc.. Longer warranty. It has Economy if you want it and Plenty of power if you select "Power" if you feel the urge.
Can't see any advantage to getting the Mazda unless you count spending more "money for Less" as an Advantage.
The Mazda trunk is much larger. My wife and I looked at both cars yesterday and it's no comparison. The outlander is great but if you need the space the Mazda is a better option
@@markprez We down sized from a 4 runner and an Ascent both of which were bigger so you are right it depends on your priorities for sure.
I’d pay for an air suspension upgrade to change the comfort level between firm and soft when going from sport and comfort modes. That’s really the only thing I don’t like about it vs my last vehicle that had a much softer road dampening suspension (what I prefer).
Aside from sales volume, I suspect a key reason why fewer 2nd row options are available on the CX90 is because of logistics. Final assembly locations of key competitors:
Telluride = Kia Georgia
Pilot = Honda Alabama
MDX = Acura/Honda Ohio
G.Highlander/TX = Toyota/Lexus Indiana
Pathfinder/QX60 = Nissan/Infinti Tennessee
Ascent = Subaru Indiana
Atlas = VW Tennessee
None of the above models(and their assorted seating options) need to be shipped across the ocean to reach the N.American mkt.
Only 2 models in the same midsize 3rows class not built in the U.S. are:
Palisade(also limited 2nd row seating options/trims unlike Telluride) = Ulsan Korea
CX90 = Hofu Japan
Finally, I recall when the current CX9(also only built in Japan) was launched back in 2016, there were initially also limited 2nd row seating options until later model yrs when production ramp-up was completed and Mazda progressively added back more seating options for most trims.
Other reviews in the Premium Plus call the ride soft and the steering light, is there that big a difference between the trims?
I’m surprised that you mentioned the Mitsubishi Outlander for consideration…I realize it’s a 3rd row SUV, but I thought it was more in the CRV size class?
Will you guys still get the chance to drive and review the low output gas model?
i hate to say this, but this cx90 (canadian market) is one that I would wait for a refresh.
14:12 Plugging in the PHEV: I owned a Pacifica PHEV which would get about 26 miles battery only. We had great success making 95% of our local trips on battery only. On 500 mile road trips we seemed to get 29 mpg. After 6,000 miles I had only spent $350 on gasoline. I am happy with the results.
I second this. I have a pacifica hybrid and have done 3200km and used just over half a tank in 6 weeks. 61km on a charge. a wonderful vehical. Anyone needing a 3rd row phev should consider this.
And now you can tow too, Pacifica couldn’t
Mazda's website says the CX-90 premium pls PHEV comes with a 2nd row center console. Why can't I find a single example of that?
It has a heat pump correct? Can you confirm it can produce heat without turning on the gas engine.
How does the AC work in EV mode? Is it powered by the ICE motor or does it have its own electric motor to run it?
@motormouth for this statement "The Mazda CX-90 PHEV earns a combined city/highway rating of 4.2Le/100km, 56 MPGe" for how long mileage we have hat gas consumption?
Considering that the 3rd row is not the greatest- How would you rate this compared to the Outlander PHEV?
Ma zuh dah like in Japan 😊.. for me I couldn’t imagine getting the PHEV when they provided a turbo inline 6 rwd bias. Seems like sacrilege like getting a Miata with automatic trans
In Japan they say マツダ？
Anyone know what is the top speed allowed in EV mode on this car? full range? or what is the limit?
Is the Qx60 3rd row bigger?
With i-stop off there is no delay with the transmission.
I appreciate the review, Zach and Andrea! I have been itching about "upgrading" my Kia Sorento PHEV AWD Prestige trim (here in the US) to this Mazda PHEV due to its seemingly more room and horsepower. A few things of this Mazda killed the deal: lower EV range, 3rd row seats not really roomy, heavy steering (I drove a CX5 before and didn't like the heavy steering), so so mpg after the EV range is gone...
I had a Chrysler Pacifica PHEV with a 29mi range and a level 1 charger.
I drove the first 1500mi before I needed to get my first tank of fuel, the next tank took over 1000 more miles.
PHEV's like this really dont need a level2 home charger unless you drive a lot, but are also at home multiple times per day in between drives so you can take advantage of home charging.
with my PHEV i just drove it like a normal car, but plugged it in every time i got home. if i had to leave quickly, i would get only a couple more miles of range... mostly it would just charge overnight and have a full battery the next day.
Did you sell the suv?
@@johnnow1 I should have added more info. I updated the post. We had a Chrysler Pacifica hybrid.
Yes it's gone. Traded away because my specific car was a possessed reliability nightmare at only 2600 miles.
@@dunhamjr5531 That's not just your specific car, that's the story of pretty much every CJRD and Stellantis vehicle.
You would still have to go for oil changes?
Hi, I'm so eager to see your full video about NEW Mercedes-Benz GLC 2023. It's available in Canada.
I love Mazzdah vehicles 😮
Have you done or intended in the future to take out a BMW X-1
Well, for their first iteration, I think they did very well. I hope that, in the next iteration, they fix the transmission issues and make that 3rd row more practical by making room for people’s feet under the 2nd row seats. Plus, Andrea, I’m totally with you on seating configuration; how about every trim level has the option for a bench seat or captains chairs in the 2nd row. As it stands today, I’d pick a Grand Highlander or Lexus TX. I think :-)
Arnt GH and Lexus TX first year models as well?
@@pearlpuri2130 Yes, you are correct. I just trust Toyota more than Mazda. Normally I wouldn't buy the 1st model yea.
I don't think you trust Toyota, it's just you follow the flock man. Mazda is actually equally great nowadays if you know the cars. Motormouth guy is always biased towards Toyota. 🙄
Toyota and Honda they are just making money of the reliability history + Dealers are charging high markup on the MSRP + Toyota is like we don't have Inventory, this is the xyz exterior color + abc interior color just take it or leave it. I would rather leave such blackmails. Best thing about CX90 is its Made in Japan ❤ where as Toyota is assembled in US
@@madanreddy6665the Outlander PHEV is almost strictly better than the CX90, and costs less. This was a mediocre first attempt on the part of Mazda.
Zach, you need to hit the gym like Andrea, then the steering will be okay!
Kidding of course. You two do a great job with your reviews!
Went with the turbo cx50. So glad I did.
Sorry if I missed this in the video but I did get the EV only range but what was the range with the battery fully charged in hybrid mode to try and achieve that 56mpg? Thank you for doing this video. Thankful that you compared both the gas and PHEV models.
Been wondering this same thing. Can’t seem to get a clear answer anywhere for plain hybrid gas and electric combined MPGs.
It is t 56 mpg… it is 56 mpg equivalent.
I am averaging 40mpg plugging it in everyday.
Thank you for the real world example. Doing the back of the envelope math on the break even vs the gas and thinking about what the battery replacement might cost.
The interior looks like it’s out of the base U.S. PHEV for the middle of the road in Canada. In the U.S. the Premium PHEV has better interior materials and more features.
I may have missed this in the video, but we kind of MPG or L/100 KM can you expect from this car when driving in just normal mode (gas & electric)? I know that the EPA said 56 MPGe combined for gas and electric and 25 for just gas but does anyone know the real world gas and electric MPG?
I'm getting over 50mpg combined but I spend most of my time in EV mode. I have reached as high as 69mpg combined but recently went on a longer trip and dropped to 53.
If they doubled the electric range I’d buy one for sure
Andrea I have a question? It’s driving me nuts. Lol. I love Mazda, I’ve been waiting for the hybrid model. So how do they come out with a PHEV CX-90 model before the regular hybrid? I live in an Apt. I don’t get it.
Dante
They aren’t going to do a regular hybrid.
The CX-50 hybrid is coming next year. But this CX-90 will not have a PHEV option.
Thank you Andrea. That’s great. I’ll be glad to wait. I need to see your review on it first. 👍😊
@dantefalzolgher6831 Thank you Dante, we appreciate that.
I'm new to hybrids so, can someone clarify this for me please. CX-90 has an 18.5 gallon tank and with Mazda's 57 MPGe claim it should equate to 1054 miles per tank(18.5 x 57)....however when I read the maximum range on a tank of gas in a hybrid mode it only shows 490 miles? I'm confused.
MPGe is the effective cost of electricity relative to gas while driving in an EV only mode. So, while the electric range lasts, the car's efficiency is in MPGe. When the battery is empty you use the provided MPG values.
It makes things a bit complex, but it's only really to give buyers an idea of relative cost to run. The manufacturer still gives a total combined range to fill in that gap.
I don't need 3 rows.... awaiting the CX-70
It might not be for me, but as a PHEV…? I think you’d be crazy not to shortlist is. Mostly, because of the lack of competition in this narrow class (non-premium three row). Great video though. Thanks.
We just bought the CX-90 PHEV Premium and looked at all the competitors. The short list for us, a family of 5, was 2023 Honda Pilot, 2024 Grand Highlander, and the CX-90.
We LOVED the Pilot roominess for the front passenger trunk room (the most usable by far). Never got to see a Grand Highlander as they were selling out before they hit the lot and Toyota wanted $1K (non-refundable) to custom build it with the chance you may get features you didn’t ask for or may not get some you wanted. That isn’t acceptable, honestly. We drove the CX-90 PHEV and loved the look, color (got the deep red with light interior [really gate the black trend]), and features for the price. Mazada also had the most ready to buy current year (new) vehicles by far.
Honda dealerships are adding a market price adjustment of +$5K and Mazada was matching the US Federal Tax Credit of $7500 (since it’s made in Japan and doesn’t qualify). That significantly dropped the lease price for us. Leases are currently the cheapest month-month by about $300/month less. The market is so screwed up right now.
Overall, we love the car. It hits way above it price bracket. Oh, and every mechanic we talked to said Mazda still makes a reliable vehicle and told us we made a good decision.
This is exactly the vehicle my family picked up two weeks ago, spec and colour (in Ontario). Love it so far, aside from a blindspot system that sees ghosts.
I agree with the wireless AA/AC. Also thought I was getting the plugs in the back, but oh well. Fantastic overall, we've driven ~600km and used less than half a tank.
Keep an eye out on that blindspot sensor. My pkg sensors up front went out, so you'll want that checked within the warranty.
A difference between the inline 6 and the PHEV is that the PHEV doesn’t have lane centering. How big if a deal is that and why do you think they did that?
Only the Premium and Premium plus Turbo S models have lane centering and that only works below 40 mpg and it is primarily for stop and go traffic.
Other trims just have lane keep assist.
I believe having a roof without a moonroof is probably safer structurally. But I will say the trim with white interior is stunning.
But it’s like driving around in a cave all day.
Wired phones? What year is it?!
mama had a cx-9, mama had a cx-90. dad was proud he didn't care how.
I have a CX-90 PHEV top trim on order and looking forward to when I can take delivery, my dealer tells me I am next up for a production number. I do have to wonder if the measly 4HP difference (319HP vs 323HP and zero difference in torque) between using regular fuel or premium is worth the extra 25¢ per liter cost. It seems to me that a fill up with premium will cost $15 more for not much benefit. In any case most of my driving will be in EV mode so it's not a big deal but for a longer trip, unless I am towing or something, premium gas doesn't seem worth the extra cost. Am I wrong about that?
I like it that Mazda and Toyota offers to the customers modern Turbo and Hybrid engines, not like Honda where can´t do that.
they wacked my leg sticking in the aisle when i was asleep with no apology.
Mazda Marzda lol be frugal on the accelerater though as it will gobble up all the range! Good looking car too and great colour ❤
Pls stop with the Mazda… Mozda… love you guys! ❤
I think it’s just come off as apologetic to Americans. Time to stop.
Otherwise what about words like roof, niche, washer etc etc
Are all cx90 phev?
At 10:21 I can guarantee that there is more room in the third row then what Zack is demonstrating. The seat back is reclined somewhat making it look tighter than what it actually is. Little bit bias there Zack!
One of the biggest complaints about the CX-9 is the lack of third row legroom at 29.7", this CX-90 has 30.4", that's an extra 0.7". I can assure Zack is not being bias, it's not a big third row and best for kids which most people will use it for.
I was in CX90. It has decent knee room, but actually have tight foot space. But, I agree with Zack being biased against Mazda as he's a Toyota fan boy 👦 🤣 take it easy Zack in a good way.
EV9 I wanted
Hey Andrea! Do those 19" wheels soften the ride a bit? Is it enough to matter?
They do soften the ride a bit but it is still firmer compared to other 3-row vehicles in this class.
Lowering tire pressure makes it softer but higher pressure makes steering lighter but firmer ride .
You can adjust it front to rear and pick your favorite combination by few psi more or less for noticable difference.
I would hope Mazda had higher budget and could offer adjusting dampers , but hey we get a ton at 60K already...
@andreaspencer9813 little bit of info on the firm ride. The shocks on the CX90 do have a break in period and will provide a softer ride once that break in period is complete.
@@terryandrews4460 Interesting. How do you know this?
@kurtpenner2362 I'm a Service Manager at a Mazda Dealership. It was part of our training for the CX90:)
Cancelled my preorder when the grand highlander got announced
It looks like they have a good overall mechanical approach with the car. However, I wish hybrids and PHEVs would sacrifice a little efficiency for straightforward and predictable transitions that follow more like how a manual transmission drives. A little cost-effectiveness and simplicity would also be appreciated. It sounds like this car is a step in the right direction.
Beautiful vehicle! But I never like a plug in hybrid because some of us may forget to plug it. I would go full time hybrid vehicle even it’s good for someone live in an apartment or condominium. Great video Andrea! Cheers! 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️
Zach really does dislike this vehicle. Personally, the deformity on the d pillar ruins the look. Mazda put so much effort into the engineering which should be applauded but the shortcomings may haunt this debut.
in europe the cx 60 may tow 2500 kg. i wonder why ur limit is that low.
I do 95% city driving and 26 miles is just enough. My concern is the range for long 75 mph travel.
Also, Mazda should offer an offroad version as not all of us like skinny tires.
On top of that, give more space up front. Too much wasted space and cup holders are to shallow
We have a cx90 phev GT model and have driven 1300 km so far and still have half a tank of gas .
I was disappointed that Mazda is not providing remote start with the key fob. They include remote start in subscription service. This is wrong direction that some car manufacturer are taking. Auto journalist should address this matter.
I would use regular fuel the "Xtra" hoarse power for premium isn't worth it.
Not everyone north of the border Zach.
We’re far from a monolithic society.
Canadians, like yourself, pronounce this closer to the English, for obvious reasons I’m guessing.
Funnily enough, our southern neighbours pronounce it closer to the Japanese way.
However, many from these three English speaking countries will never find a single carry-oki bar in Japan that has plenty of kara-okay bars.
Usually, the difference you pay for a plug-in hybrid vs. a regular hybrid will never give you any ROI... it just depends if you want the extra power and then if you are always gunning it you've defeated any and all gas savings advantage.
You get 7500$ in subventions from the gouvs so the phev isnt a lot more expensive than the mhev
MAAAZda in Canada...
I think PHEV SUV’s will be worth looking into when they reach $100kms on ev range.
$100 kilometres what does that mean?
@@giuseppebiasone6827 to be able to drive 100kms on EV charge alone.
Even though PHEV makes perfect sense, I still prefer the aura of the straight 6 engine given Mazda is a dynamic brand. That's despite you can get taxpayer's rebate when buying a PHEV while fully gas version doesn't
One of life’s many trade offs
Wish Mazda had just plain hybrid model.
9:34 ridiculous design. This will either break or spill when it inevitably collapses. I’m a current 21’ CX-9 owner and was really looking fwd to the PHEV. I’m ok with the compromises with the CX9 but the 90 is asking a little too much.
CX9 is discontinued
Stupid Sorento doesn't have 3rd row AC vents anymore after the 2025 facelift
I bought this car 3 weeks ago. No way it has 300hp, isnt 189hp??
These car should self charge, then it would be awesome
@justsomedude7556 it does charge itself.
I wanted to like it. It's not bad. Its just not good enough for that money.
Coming from an Audi I cannot do heavy steering
Sad. Sounds like unless you can afford a higher end hybrid, you might as well go with a Buick Enclave Avenir.
in the video the car seems to be bouncing on the road in the exterior views
Not bad for their (Mazda) first iteration; average at best. We're not trading our '18 CX-9 for this just yet. It's better to wait for future improvements and if there will be recalls.
The Mazda CX-90 is certainly an attractive vehicle. However, I think the hybrid Toyota Grand Highlander seems to be a better value. The fuel economy for such a large 3 row crossover is amazing, and you don't need to fuss with plugging it in every night. The prices are compatible...likely availability with be a challenge for the foreseeable future.
The Toyota is more reliable,higher resale value versus the Mazda Suv
I don't find it attractive front nor back. The front looks dated. It's odd, it's got full LED headlights, but the design reminds me of much older Mazda's. The rounded rear is just not attractive and I've seen it in person.
Good luck finding one of your choice of exterior and interior color + They dont have hybrid inventory + Dealership charging high markups and interest rates, Fuel efficiency doesn't stand a chance in auch scenarios
There are no perpetual motion machines. All cars have limited ranges. Whether gasoline/electric/diesel or some combination.
Manual front seats? wtf does that mean
Both the driver and passenger seats are manual on the base model.
Why are people so ignorant about PHEVs. Their fuel efficiency is entirely dependent in how far you typically drive. If you typically drive less than 40-50k between charges, then it will be more efficient than gas or mhev. If you drive more, then it won't. End of story.
It also depends on your cost for electricity to charge that massive battery and your cost for one gallon of gasoline.
I wish you had compared the Mitsubishi Outlander phev more, which is similarly priced however smaller and only an emergency third row
Yeah, I'm not sure it would be that favourable a comparison though.
The Mazda is bigger, yet it's third row is still pretty useless which is the biggest (and very legitimate) complaint about the Outlander. And the Mazda has more horses.
The Outlander has 50% longer range, which qualifies it for the full federal/provincial rebates in Canada. It has a slightly better mpg. It has a nicer interior. It has a better warranty. It's a well established PHEV which is known to be very reliable (the CX90 may also be very reliable but there isn't any data yet.) The Mitsu AWD system is better than most.
Given how much cheaper the Outlander is with the full rebates I think you'd really need the extra trunk space for it to make sense to buy the CX90. Even with the (slightly) more spacious 3rd row I seriously doubt anyone would want to use it regularly.