New Missiles Are Great But... - F-104J

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @OddBawZ
    @OddBawZ 3 года назад +364

    Look at this mans. Best planes content on YT imo!

    • @LilKingTigerstar
      @LilKingTigerstar 3 года назад +19

      True for my plane content I come here and for tanks I watch you. But anyone is better then Phly....

    • @Grummpy_1
      @Grummpy_1 3 года назад +11

      He odd love the vids you and defyn are my favorite RUclipsrs. You guys inspire me because I never play with ppl everyone hates but watching your guys vids are inspirational

    • @fujaksss
      @fujaksss 3 года назад +12

      you defyn and spitflyer are the great WT youtuber trio

    • @m1a1abrams3
      @m1a1abrams3 3 года назад

      cringedaily is better. he is the only one who says “firing two foxes”

    • @tylnozcn27
      @tylnozcn27 3 года назад +1

      Love the vids man keep it up

  • @threemountainsgaming7560
    @threemountainsgaming7560 2 года назад +66

    Every time Rasor is in a defyn video:
    "So, Rasor right there is dogfighting an a6m5 ko in his B-17E/L and he just crit the zero"

    • @aratay3117
      @aratay3117 2 года назад +5

      I could totally see him dogfighting while in the gunner position and still destroying zeros

  • @kingghidorah8106
    @kingghidorah8106 3 года назад +81

    Players against F104: Damn that thing's op it out runs my missiles and it's hard to aim at them!
    F104 players: Damn this thing can't turn, has no MER and can only run n gun, it's challenging!

    • @dsdy1205
      @dsdy1205 3 года назад +10

      In other words it's not really involved in the match lol

    • @agravemisunderstanding9668
      @agravemisunderstanding9668 2 года назад +14

      @@dsdy1205 it provides a valuable role in the game
      It makes really cool noises

    • @Edgazx
      @Edgazx Год назад +3

      It’s not challenging it’s a pain having no flares and shitty msls

    • @kingghidorah8106
      @kingghidorah8106 Год назад +1

      @@Edgazx when it was 10.0 it was pain to fly but now that's 9.3 it is just too overpowered. I might get 2-3 kills per game in it because I don't want to bully subsonics. I remove the missile buses or other supersonic aircraft and then let them have a good dose of ol' MiG valley top tier experience

    • @Edgazx
      @Edgazx Год назад +2

      @@kingghidorah8106 huh?? its 10.7 rn, you get bullied by phantom every match and you NEVER get a downtier. japan tier VI is dogshit, AND you dont even got flares until VII + F-5C, Su 25k, F-4S, a-10a( aim-9L without flares XD) spam

  • @argxz4200
    @argxz4200 3 года назад +48

    Needing an exit before you enter is probably the smartest thing I've never thought about

    • @dsdy1205
      @dsdy1205 3 года назад +3

      Can we get this higher; I don't know how many times I flew in with a well thought out plan of attack that ended with "and then I miss my shot and get clowned on by the enemy team whom I considerately placed on my tail"

  • @LeAoZiM024
    @LeAoZiM024 3 года назад +81

    Do the Yak-38M, I wanna see your take on that diesel locomotive they call a plane

    • @Liverpool2102MHB
      @Liverpool2102MHB 3 года назад +6

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @smigoltime
      @smigoltime 3 года назад +35

      He won't like that one for sure xd

    • @Asghaad
      @Asghaad 3 года назад +4

      @@smigoltime still better than its worse premium cousin, the 38M at least gets gunpods and bit better performance

    • @smigoltime
      @smigoltime 3 года назад +19

      @@Asghaad premium also gets gunpods

    • @jeek3452
      @jeek3452 3 года назад +2

      The flying cucumber

  • @goldenx86
    @goldenx86 3 года назад +17

    The Eiko skin makes this plane turn 4 extra Gs.

  • @stepmonkey3082
    @stepmonkey3082 3 года назад +42

    The F-104's can be soooo damn annoying to fight against, like before you can read the name of the plane it's already sent 2 missiles against you and flew 7 km away.

    • @Sandycheeks6699
      @Sandycheeks6699 2 года назад +3

      Those are the smart pilots, then you've got the pilots who are too busy trying to dogfight a draken or mirage

  • @matheusdelimarodrigues4410
    @matheusdelimarodrigues4410 3 года назад +12

    0:25 Wtf it has MEC???

  • @Xeemix
    @Xeemix 3 года назад +2

    Hmm, in the F-104G(China) I've been chased by over four phantoms out of a furball, and dodged over 8 missiles with simple zigzagging before a bis came out from my flank while I was occupied with the phantoms, as long as you maintain energy and speed you can easy boom and zoom any aircraft and repeatedly force headons when you get a 3 mile lead on phantoms and bis's, you can dodge missiles by doing simple 2-3g zigzags you may have more difficulty with radar missiles, this is much easier in the S, i've had a couple of matches where I was the last aircraft left vs 2 or 3 enemy planes and could clean up nicely though again this is referring to the F-104G/S models.

  • @mp7_acog
    @mp7_acog 3 года назад +19

    "it's kinda funny" my experience with my f104g agrees xD

    • @wiredjarl1556
      @wiredjarl1556 3 года назад +4

      Yes German F104G is a joke compared to, say, a su7 (9.3 and 9.7 compared to F104G’s 10.0)

  • @yuvimoi3065
    @yuvimoi3065 3 года назад +10

    I was about to comment on the f104A last vid ...defyn be reading minds

  • @doublenikesocks
    @doublenikesocks 3 года назад +2

    Love that this thing is 10.3 while the identical Chinese F104G is 10.7

  • @sird4vy501
    @sird4vy501 3 года назад +20

    Damn, RUclips notifications working?

    • @spencer6331
      @spencer6331 3 года назад

      Yea fr. I didn’t get anything on his uploads lmao.

  • @Doomspain
    @Doomspain 3 года назад +13

    That reverse man... I rely too much on missiles to kill I wish I was better with guns, feels nice xD

    • @auterm
      @auterm 3 года назад

      My method if you want to be better with guns is to remove the missles or play a jet that only has guns.

    • @brannonmeador1792
      @brannonmeador1792 3 года назад +3

      Or just play props, unless you paid your way to it you should have a lot of experience with guns

    • @italo195
      @italo195 3 года назад

      @@brannonmeador1792 Welp, maybe I'm the only idiot who thinks this but, aiming and firing guns in top tier feels different (not a looooot ) from doing it in props or early jets

  • @sathyarajesh7787
    @sathyarajesh7787 3 года назад +4

    i've had alot of fun ion the f104s for some reason, dodging missles is the best feeling ever

  • @french_co
    @french_co 3 года назад +4

    I hope Italian tech tree will get f104 Asa and av8b

  • @SwissCowboy87
    @SwissCowboy87 3 года назад +5

    at least one match stock would be interesting :)

  • @rsummers319
    @rsummers319 3 года назад +1

    its also to bad they wouldnt add the f104 g or s for the americans when they purchased 300 new s variants in 65

  • @josephdeans7298
    @josephdeans7298 3 года назад +7

    Could you do an Phantom FGR.2/FG.1, if you get a chance

    • @tunaconsuma
      @tunaconsuma 3 года назад

      @Ryan S. Salvatore, Esq not at all lol just stay low stay fast. Nothin catching yoy

  • @alexmj1401
    @alexmj1401 3 года назад +5

    Love how those aims never lose track but an R-60 couldn't hold tracking on the sun RN

  • @thomasvertommen9526
    @thomasvertommen9526 Год назад +2

    This thing has seriously suffered. it's at 10.7 now with no countermeasures and gets eaten by about every missiles in game...

    • @Edgazx
      @Edgazx 11 месяцев назад

      True

  • @jovanni_orb5116
    @jovanni_orb5116 3 года назад +4

    I am very close to unlocking my first jet in US tree. Which jet should I get first? Or which jet is best to use in the US tree?

    • @lukefrombk
      @lukefrombk 3 года назад +2

      In my opinion you should get the F80 or P80 it's name was changed a little while ago but you'll find it in the US tech tree at 7.0. It decently fast has decent climb, great at defensive flying if you can get a 262 to commit to a turn fight with while he's on your 6 you can easily reverse them and at 7.0 there'll be many 262s. Also Defyn has a very recent from a couple days ago excellent guide for it that you can watch to learn how to be good in it!

    • @lukefrombk
      @lukefrombk 3 года назад +2

      ruclips.net/video/WWK5LvGeiGA/видео.html Defyns Guide for the 7.0 P80

    • @jovanni_orb5116
      @jovanni_orb5116 3 года назад +2

      @@lukefrombk thank you for the help.

    • @jovanni_orb5116
      @jovanni_orb5116 3 года назад +2

      @@lukefrombk thank you

  • @_GODSFIGHTER
    @_GODSFIGHTER Год назад

    Good gameplay 😊 flying like an arrow lol. It doesn't sound too interesting but I'll do it anyways cause the f104 looks sick

  • @NookyAvenger
    @NookyAvenger 3 года назад +1

    Just free Aced my chinese F104G, I love that plane.

  • @michaeltrujillo4457
    @michaeltrujillo4457 3 года назад +2

    Could you imagine an F-104 with SRAAMs

  • @lukefrombk
    @lukefrombk 3 года назад +3

    Defyn can you please do a video on the Yak9M or Yak1B they're very similar and both such sweet planes. Or on the P51D10 that beauty is 4.3 now! I'm loving it : )

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  3 года назад +8

      Yak9m and p-51d10 are already in the making
      Give me some time though :b

    • @lukefrombk
      @lukefrombk 3 года назад

      @@DEFYN Thank you! : )

  • @nuka.
    @nuka. 3 года назад +5

    MEC for 104J?

  • @CommentDweller
    @CommentDweller 2 года назад

    your content is timeless

  • @adityabora9131
    @adityabora9131 3 года назад +12

    Do a guide on how to win when half your team is F4Fs ))

    • @UrMumSaysHi
      @UrMumSaysHi 3 года назад +4

      1: check what teammates are flying. 2: If half the team is F4Fs go to point 3. 3: Return to hangar

  • @dsdy1205
    @dsdy1205 3 года назад

    12:11 The rare reverse DEFYN cut

  • @MrPanggs
    @MrPanggs 3 года назад +1

    Can you make another video on the F5 Tiger? I'm unlocking it shortly

  • @_GODSFIGHTER
    @_GODSFIGHTER Год назад

    Nice color on that f104

  • @Jacob-vg2hh
    @Jacob-vg2hh 3 года назад +1

    alternative title: Dart with turny missiles and brrt

  • @sohaibattalla7174
    @sohaibattalla7174 3 года назад +6

    pls play the re 2005 SL-bankruptcy machine

    • @Mannen2000
      @Mannen2000 3 года назад +4

      @Master boy1205 Re. 2005 has high repcost, and in the hands of inexperienced pilot, this aircraft will be the cause of their SL demise

    • @lukefrombk
      @lukefrombk 3 года назад

      @Master boy1205 same I'd like to see that as well, such a sweet sweet plane amazing performance. Only thing I wish was different was that It has one 20 and one Berezin instead of 2 20s then it would perfect.

  • @feraltrafficcone4483
    @feraltrafficcone4483 3 года назад +1

    Man, I wanna play 9.0 now, but American teams have been made of AV-8’s and A-4E’s, so they’re very usually super useless and die very quickly

  • @brt94
    @brt94 3 года назад +1

    defyn is spoiling us

  • @agustinyavar525
    @agustinyavar525 3 года назад

    Wait they nerfed the baloon flaps? I loved wining dogfights in the F104 just cause no one expected it to randomly turn well lol

  • @timothylu1349
    @timothylu1349 3 года назад

    TWO videis in one day???? Jengar is the best

  • @sampanyofella5832
    @sampanyofella5832 3 года назад +1

    Yeah the gameplay is epic and all, but daaamn that skin is beautiful.

  • @rsummers319
    @rsummers319 3 года назад +1

    i love how they add su 17 for top teir but wouldnt add the f14

  • @Mini1124
    @Mini1124 3 года назад

    German F-104 buff when :( the flares and RWR are nice but almost never work

  • @ddmmouton855
    @ddmmouton855 3 года назад +4

    What american plans are good because i am new to the game so if you can tell me that whoud help me alot

    • @flavortown3781
      @flavortown3781 3 года назад +5

      Don't start with america, it's hard to play literally none of the planes are bad however, learning curve is steep. I recommend britian, the typhoon line will likely teach you to play most american planes in a way that is a bit more forgiving, they can sort of turn, they have good retention. Otherwise once you are playing america it's all about boom and zoom, dive from 400-600meters above someone take it up in a slight climb and run out throw them into a chicane

    • @ddmmouton855
      @ddmmouton855 3 года назад

      @@flavortown3781 thanks

    • @ddmmouton855
      @ddmmouton855 3 года назад

      @@flavortown3781 somting eles i shoud now about the american plans

    • @reeeanonymous8399
      @reeeanonymous8399 3 года назад +5

      Japan is a good starting nation as well better than britain in my opinion

    • @ddmmouton855
      @ddmmouton855 3 года назад

      @@reeeanonymous8399 what plan is good in japan

  • @calebcantrell9115
    @calebcantrell9115 3 года назад

    Could you do a video on the MiG-21bis?

  • @chagandomrodnoi
    @chagandomrodnoi 3 года назад

    Было бы интересно посмотреть нарезку игры в смешанных боях, в танковых реалистичных. Всё таки там совсем другая специфика.

  • @Johanz1998
    @Johanz1998 3 года назад

    Hoi defyn, could you fly out the Sea Fury at some point? I love the plane but it is difficult to adapt to sometimes

  • @nolanarcher9996
    @nolanarcher9996 3 года назад

    German F-104 G makes me want to cry

  • @thetaxikab604
    @thetaxikab604 3 года назад +1

    What happened to this things flaps? I still find them very effective

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  3 года назад +1

      They produce about half the lift they used to

  • @TugengHan
    @TugengHan 7 месяцев назад

    Me looking for guide because I got bullied in a stock plane... Guide: fully upgraded plane with 4 AIM 9P is good

  • @tomppeli.
    @tomppeli. 3 года назад +1

    What about the German top tiers? (Namely the F-104G) Are they competetive at all?

    • @Wienerslinky
      @Wienerslinky 3 года назад +1

      only competative ones imo are the mig21mf and new phantom... the 104g sucks, aim9b missiles dont really help at top tier

    • @mp7_acog
      @mp7_acog 3 года назад +3

      i have 104g and mig 21 mf, it's basically a choice between countermeasures and speed vs usable missiles and ability to turn. i prefer the 104g these days because i tend to go fast and take a few pot shots then leave, so the vulcan is nice for that and the countermeasures means you can survive for a very long time if you play smart. i have about 600 games in my 21 and 300 in my 104g.

    • @tomppeli.
      @tomppeli. 3 года назад +2

      @@mp7_acog, I must say that I agree with your analysis between the two aircraft and it sounds accurate. All that and the fact that the 104 is 10.0 compared to the MF being 10.7, so seeing those downtier games is more frequent

  • @dezurniblejac3863
    @dezurniblejac3863 3 года назад +1

    good video !

  • @drae2173
    @drae2173 3 года назад

    I thought that thing is the missile, hmm

  • @VoTi12
    @VoTi12 3 года назад

    I can see on comments everyone likes jets but man I miss prop fights :(

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  3 года назад +2

      Props soon :)

  • @mjjisbest3449
    @mjjisbest3449 3 года назад

    This is best rocket in war thunder

  • @drivinmiatas5068
    @drivinmiatas5068 3 года назад

    i’m rlly close to getting it

  • @moxie_ST
    @moxie_ST 3 года назад

    How to find a team Like that ?
    I have a oprostite situation , by the time I position my self for pass my Moronica team is mostly on a whey to hangar and all I can do is play Dodge the misle (until it hit me) becuse 2/3 of enemy team is on my asss , not to mention that I em not spaded becuse games last for 5-10 min and you get a peace of šhit RP for that game time in a win game not to mention zero if you lose.

  • @EL4Mdesu
    @EL4Mdesu 3 года назад

    I just researched this plane yesterday. Played 3 games while stock. 0 kills and 0 wins, and then I got bored and played my early jets. Any tips on grinding this plane stock?

    • @LeAoZiM024
      @LeAoZiM024 3 года назад

      Go kill light pillboxes or medium tanks, the stock gun belt can kill them and they give you a good amount of RP. And rush the Aim-9P, the rest will come easily when you have them.

    • @EL4Mdesu
      @EL4Mdesu 3 года назад +1

      @@LeAoZiM024 Ah thanks man. 6 Pillboxes, 2000 score, and then I ran out of fuel because I only brought 20 min. but 6k rp.

    • @LeAoZiM024
      @LeAoZiM024 3 года назад +2

      @@EL4Mdesuforgot to mention, after you get a good score killing ground targets, go land, when you land you receive a boost in your RP earnings, I don't remember the exact amount but it helps.

  • @wiredjarl1556
    @wiredjarl1556 3 года назад +1

    German F104G...The worst of the bunch

  • @M65V19
    @M65V19 3 года назад

    Arcade air RB in nutshell

  • @Serkay64
    @Serkay64 3 года назад

    I prefer using my german F104G as a Gunfighter

  • @6old_YT
    @6old_YT 3 года назад +1

    Hey DEFYN can you please play the Yak-9UT because no one does.
    Day 6

  • @ravengar9504
    @ravengar9504 3 года назад +1

    míssil thunder

  • @Generic_Name_1-1
    @Generic_Name_1-1 3 года назад +6

    Play the F104C ;)

    • @bubblesofthecoast6393
      @bubblesofthecoast6393 3 года назад

      Naw try the German F-104G; least the C can fly with the Americans

  • @TonnyH21
    @TonnyH21 3 года назад +1

    Play F 104 A i'm grinding it rn i want some tips

    • @nero9974
      @nero9974 3 года назад +1

      american f104 sucks

  • @liquidcatt
    @liquidcatt 3 года назад +1

    Whats the best way to grind rp far Japanese

    • @ChildrenoftheDamned6
      @ChildrenoftheDamned6 3 года назад

      a6m5 ko

    • @lukefrombk
      @lukefrombk 3 года назад +2

      I can't speak from knowledge of rp modifiers but I can for fun factor. If you have good aim the Ki84 ko is really fun at 5.3, considering the highest you'd face is 6.3 and sometimes you'll be in 4.3 and 5.3 matches. Same thing for J2M2/M3 they're very competitive at their brs and in a full uptier.

    • @ChildrenoftheDamned6
      @ChildrenoftheDamned6 3 года назад +2

      @@lukefrombk i wish the 5.3 ki-84 had navy guns over the army ones.

    • @lukefrombk
      @lukefrombk 3 года назад +1

      @@ChildrenoftheDamned6 same it would be awesome if it had 2 Type 99 mod 2 cannons

    • @lukefrombk
      @lukefrombk 3 года назад +2

      @@ChildrenoftheDamned6 With good positioning and shooting as if It was a Soviet plane with very low ammo I've gotten aces in the Ki84 ko before. If you don't have good results with the armament I'd suggest uni for the 20s, steath on the 12.7s and a 400m convergence. The Ho5s are best at closer ranges anyway. From my experience with this setup short bursts up to 700m destroy planes surprisingly fast

  • @Turkishgamer-zm5cm
    @Turkishgamer-zm5cm 3 года назад

    What country is the best for new players ?

  • @Boopity7739
    @Boopity7739 3 года назад

    I wanted to get the P’s on this thing but it’s so fucking bad, I feel like everything catches me

    • @thebirbestbirb
      @thebirbestbirb 3 года назад +1

      it doesn't matter on the american star fighter the same country that created it and the sparrow missiles we only get fucking 2 AIM-9B'S!!!! what the fuck gaijin seriously America suffers

  • @bkp1988
    @bkp1988 3 года назад

    25’s!

  • @benjaminwandl5877
    @benjaminwandl5877 3 года назад +1

    All i Wanna say is hi

  • @rasmusuhrskov2795
    @rasmusuhrskov2795 3 года назад

    4:04 Look at chat

  • @davidryanlawrencd
    @davidryanlawrencd 3 года назад

    La-200?

  • @andre232323
    @andre232323 3 года назад

    I would rather play pacman or tetris than late jets.

  • @ibanana1871
    @ibanana1871 3 года назад

  • @samyt681
    @samyt681 3 года назад

    Don't increase the repair cost lmao ))))

  • @jovanni_orb5116
    @jovanni_orb5116 3 года назад +1

    Hi

  • @sealclub13a79
    @sealclub13a79 3 года назад +1

    Pencil content

  • @boguskowalik7528
    @boguskowalik7528 2 года назад +2

    No flares at 10.7 … neither the chinese one has it at 10.7. It has nice missiles but with current matches with mirage 2000 and f14 your gonna be killing bots and dying

  • @wulfyweasel
    @wulfyweasel 3 года назад

    wasnt even cannon fodder for an ace smh ♥

  • @alexey_burkov
    @alexey_burkov 3 года назад

    I just tried this plane... And what a shit is it? Im not trying to say that i am good, but damn, this thing can nothing. Especially in stock. Absolutely nothing.
    I have to side climb or i die. I have to stick to my team, or i die. Every single try to do something lead to die....

  • @looke3392
    @looke3392 10 месяцев назад

    Religiously rewatching this video over and over trying to learn how to use this stupid aircraft because the grind is butchering me

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  10 месяцев назад

      Man, i can give this thing to the best player in the game today and hes gonna suck with it
      Japanese tier 6 grind is some of the worst

    • @looke3392
      @looke3392 10 месяцев назад

      @@DEFYN Oh god what have I gotten myself into lmao, I take it you won't ever do another vid on it?

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  10 месяцев назад

      if i would make a video it would be me covering the games where I dont get missiled from 5km away. Theres not much you can do in this

    • @looke3392
      @looke3392 10 месяцев назад

      @@DEFYN ahh shit, I understand, at least I have an excuse to suck at it, lmao. Take care dude

  • @jtoddjb
    @jtoddjb 3 года назад

    I hate these short ass games

  • @yakovendelman7659
    @yakovendelman7659 3 года назад

    I saw a video on RUclips called "How To Quit That Lisp" might want to have a look, maybe more people would be able to endure your content. When I was still lisping I noticed people didn't enjoy listening to me speak.

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  3 года назад +4

      Dick of the year award for my channel, congratulations you earned it.

    • @bizabaja2
      @bizabaja2 3 года назад +3

      Lisp? Bro what, where lmao
      Also yeah, you kinda are being an ass.
      Same reason people didn't enjoy listening to you speak. But you could always keep believing it was because of the way you sounded and not what you said to them 😂

    • @yakovendelman7659
      @yakovendelman7659 3 года назад

      @@DEFYN I mean lisping is not something physical (unless you have a harelip) that can't be overcome. I used to lisp really bad and now it just annoys me when I hear someone do it, since it's actually really easy to not do at all! Just constructive criticism bro give the vid a watch and you'll see.
      I bet a lot of people get annoyed by it too and only watch your vids because its great content.

    • @yakovendelman7659
      @yakovendelman7659 3 года назад

      @@bizabaja2 Honestly I totally get why they were so annoyed now, I have just as bad of an accent or dialect like Defyn here plus the lisp it's just not that pleasant to listen to.

    • @DEFYN
      @DEFYN  3 года назад +1

      I had a bad lisp too and got actual therapy for it
      I am quite officially declared lisp free, idk what you're hearing but it ain't a lisp
      I've never heard anyone say i had it since then and I asked quite frequently since I hate it too

  • @joeboe1194
    @joeboe1194 3 года назад +1

    Why play this when u can play f104a, aim9b is miles better than this crap

  • @josippetkovic389
    @josippetkovic389 3 года назад +1

    First?

  • @熊宝-l3t
    @熊宝-l3t 3 года назад

    beautiful, pls write some advice for me to ganjin, when we can have f14 or better. thank you

  • @mrcllean8239
    @mrcllean8239 Год назад

    Great vid but man it is dated FAST