Cleaning House In A Mid Mobile - F-4EJ Phantom II

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024

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  • @mustafahamidzada1869
    @mustafahamidzada1869 Год назад +31

    1:10 straight up opening with violations man probably the funniest war thunder youtuber by far keep it up

    • @generalbub.
      @generalbub. 5 месяцев назад

      that one got a snort out of me ngl

  • @ahyesiamacarnerd1656
    @ahyesiamacarnerd1656 Год назад +87

    I grinded the entire Japanese air tech tree in 2 weeks this thing prints sl 2 bases per match and in downtiers you can just beat the shit out of everyone

    • @murci981
      @murci981 Год назад

      Thinking about buying it. How exactly should I play it?

    • @ahyesiamacarnerd1656
      @ahyesiamacarnerd1656 Год назад

      @@murci981 do bombruns

    • @doud623
      @doud623 Год назад +1

      Buying it tmr aswell it’s like the F4E so I know, take 24 500lb bombs drop 12 per base and after you got 2 bases either go for kills or return to base and bomb again

    • @koocoocroc1235
      @koocoocroc1235 7 месяцев назад

      @@doud623 No. Use rockets, they are lighter.

    • @dillpicklehaha
      @dillpicklehaha Месяц назад

      @@koocoocroc1235can’t take out two bases with rockets

  • @friesingcold
    @friesingcold Год назад +237

    Too late! I already bought it and ground out the Japanese tech tree! It wasn’t that bad actually, it was a monster in a down tier

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 Год назад +26

      Between Danger Zone and Apex Predators I flown 30+ matches on the F-4EJ (got a free talisman on it about a year and a half ago) and got only ONE downtier.
      I guess it will get better with 12.0 but still.

    • @PyroBlonde7777
      @PyroBlonde7777 Год назад +1

      @@miquelescribanoivars5049 were you in a squad? That usually makes the uptiers constant. Plus all the people buying 11.0 prems now lol.

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 Год назад +2

      @@PyroBlonde7777 Nope, I play solo, this was when 11.3 was top br, though.

    • @PyroBlonde7777
      @PyroBlonde7777 Год назад +1

      @Miquel Escribano Ivars things should be easier after the br decompression. But with the new 11.0 prems filling lobbies, I doubt we'll see as many down tiers. It was nice when the average US prem at top tier was 10.3. Created a nice barrier from 10.7-11.3

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 Год назад +2

      @@PyroBlonde7777 I know abused it to hell and back on the SMT ;)

  • @goodname6102
    @goodname6102 Год назад +16

    Start from aim7d in war thunder, the sparrows all equip with Doppler filter. Therefore, as long as enemy not dodging properly(f pole) and you keep the lock (even on the chaff), the missile still can find the target. Early rader missiles like r3r and aim9c those don't have Doppler filter one tap of chaff is enough to defeat them.

    • @ohlala5681
      @ohlala5681 Год назад +1

      iTs ThE SiDeLobEs

    • @goodname6102
      @goodname6102 Год назад

      @@ohlala5681 from what I see, sidelobe can’t explain aim9c, you can defeat it with a single chaff with slightly off angle. While you can’t fool aim7e2.

    • @goodname6102
      @goodname6102 Год назад

      @@ohlala5681 furthermore, just from the video, 7:58 the radar still locked on the chaff, but the missile aim7e went straight to the enemy plane. So the radar was not guiding the missile, otherwise it should go to the chaff if you were launching a missile without Doppler filter like aim9c, the missile itself knew what and where its target was.

    • @goodname6102
      @goodname6102 Год назад

      @@ohlala5681 Long story short, sparrows are semi-active, the missile locks the target and guides itself. And since they have Doppler filter(speed gate), they can hit the targets that aren’t f pole and chaff.

  • @gumerk.7721
    @gumerk.7721 Год назад +19

    "We almost kiss our friendly but he's not my homie so I'm not gonna be kissing him goodnight"- Defyn 2023

  • @solreaver83
    @solreaver83 Год назад +20

    With chaff and flares especially against the better missiles the countermeasures really need to get between you the defender and the missile or enemy plane (for radar) to pull the attention away. In the example in your video he didn't turn so his flares were left behind and you and your missile had an unobstructed path to the plane. Had he been flying more away from you the flares chaff would have been between you both and likely have worked

    • @ach3909
      @ach3909 Год назад +1

      Not entirely. One match I had an F1C-200 in front of my F-4J at around 2.5km (and he's pulling away) at around 300m altitude. Out of IR missiles and had 2x7F's left. Couldn't get a PD lock so flew even lower to get a lock on normal TRK mode and fired. He dumped flares and chaff, predictably my radar locked onto the chaff(being non PD lock) but unusually the missile still went for him. Really unusual since we were both so low that the radar screen was full of ground clutter fuzz yet it still somehow worked.
      At that point the chaff was truly between me and him, now I know it's a 7F and not a 7E so maybe the 7F just has better chaff resistance!? (if you can call it that) than a 7E.

    • @RedTail1-1
      @RedTail1-1 Год назад

      That’s just how the Sparrows work. Any SARH missile. So long as your radar is locked onto the chaff after being locked to the aircraft the Sparrow will still go for the aircraft. It’s “Semi” Active Radar Homing. Meaning it works in tandem with your radar but can’t fully track on it’s own. So long as you don’t break the lock the Sparrow will track. Most people don’t know it can do that so as soon as they see chaff locked they break the lock to relock the enemy.
      It also works with every other SARH missile in the game. R23/24, Skyflash, and the goddamn R27ER that should not have been added to the game yet.

  • @randomportuguese473
    @randomportuguese473 Год назад +7

    Hey Defyn!
    Just got the f14 and i see im having a bad time with the radar(modes...).
    It would be amazing if the near Future you made a video about radar and tips.
    Keep up the amazing work♥️

    • @Sandycheeks6699
      @Sandycheeks6699 Год назад +2

      Check out Tim's Variety, he did a video on the F-14 and its radar modes when it first came out. It honestly really helped me learn the ropes.

    • @randomportuguese473
      @randomportuguese473 Год назад +1

      @@Sandycheeks6699 thx dude

  • @friesingcold
    @friesingcold Год назад +4

    The ability for certain radar missiles to track despite the radar tracking chaff is realistic, most high performance radar missiles have a “speed gate” basically because the missile knows its tracking a moving target, it ignores slow moving returns unless the returns are similar to the plane, think of it like MTI radar, it’s not actually pulse Doppler, but it is functionally similar (in game). Against certain pulse doppler radars, chaff does in fact work, as the enemy jet approaches the notch, chaff becomes more and more effective, because of how the closing rate approaches 0.

    • @friesingcold
      @friesingcold Год назад

      Some missiles, like the Aim-7M, Skyflash, Aspide, and several others, have true pulse Doppler compatibly, with their inverse Mono-pulse seekers. As far as I know the seeker type differences aren’t modeled in game yet.

    • @ollilaine6763
      @ollilaine6763 Год назад +1

      @@friesingcold Inverse monopulse seekers won't be modeled as of now because there is literally nothing they could add. Irl they had better accuracy but in-game all missiles have 100% accuracy and they are immune to simple jamming techniques but ECM isn't in the game.

  • @derritter3873
    @derritter3873 Год назад +20

    What are your thoughts on the new br changes coming soon? I know the small decompression will be nice, but idk about the EJ Kai being 11.7. No more F-5C killing. Sure the loadout and radar is good, but a gen 3 jet is still a gen 3, and now vs all the gen 4s is gonna hurt. I hope it gets guided munitions one day so I can do more in grb.

    • @VERTIGO1327
      @VERTIGO1327 Год назад +14

      SU-25 didn’t get a change and I’m livid

    • @wilsonlee4658
      @wilsonlee4658 Год назад +9

      its terrible lmao.like i saw the br changes and im like heck yes finally the ej kai can be competitive somewhat and then i saw it also went up the 11.7 and im like.....WHATS A PHANTOM DOING AT 11.7 LMAO

    • @thyunholysinner5389
      @thyunholysinner5389 Год назад +2

      @@VERTIGO1327shouldn’t be surprised it’s a Russian made game

    • @aratay3117
      @aratay3117 Год назад +1

      @@Bobspineable
      No uptier that thing further

    • @derritter3873
      @derritter3873 Год назад +4

      @@Bobspineable Just aim at things without flares. Just for Japan, you got 3 different sabres (8.7-9.0), the T-2 (9.7), the F-1 (10.3) and the F-104J (10.7). All without flares you could easily kill. It’s still kinda dumb having sabres vs the Su-25. Mid-50s vs mid-80s tech is quite the gap.

  • @rifkys8356
    @rifkys8356 Год назад

    I love those bass boosted sonic boom sfx, sounds like a vine boom sfx

  • @2BsWraith
    @2BsWraith Год назад +1

    I understand its probably bad, but I like it, and i think thats what matters, it seems effective enough in capable hands anyways.

  • @eesangWT
    @eesangWT Год назад +9

    2:25 F-16A is def better than the EJ Kai but I currently find the EJ Kai more fun to play. Two extra missiles and the better high-speed instantaneous turn for last-second notching feels more... interactive?

    • @specialman6004
      @specialman6004 Год назад

      F-16 isn’t gonna be better because it doesn’t have the missile capability that the F-4EJ KAI has. This is why the F-14 is still top dog because it has more missiles and it’s a decent plane.
      also F-16 rn is absolutely a brick

    • @eesangWT
      @eesangWT Год назад

      @@specialman6004 F-16's limiter in War Thunder is unfinished and I hope Gaijin fixes it soon. It can pull 11G at the deck with min fuel but can barely pull 8 G with max fuel above 4km altitude. Not being able to pull even 9 G at +4km is painful when the EJ Kai can sustain 12 G for an entire 90° turn.

    • @specialman6004
      @specialman6004 Год назад

      @@eesangWT it’s not gonna be fixed because the F-16 is a two circle turn fighter, not really meta.

    • @theverminator8048
      @theverminator8048 Год назад

      Yeah i love the f-16 irl but they are not that fun to play in game

    • @NCSiebertdesign
      @NCSiebertdesign Год назад

      @@specialman6004 Mmmm, my current death is around 60 and made over 300 kills with f-16 in air RB. It's not a good jet?

  • @_GODSFIGHTER
    @_GODSFIGHTER Год назад

    6:00 i love how you compare missiles to like an office person 😂

  • @jaek_898
    @jaek_898 Год назад +2

    They take 1.8 seconds to start tracking at all and 4.5 to fully "wake up", once I started focusing on firing them from far enough away to give them 5 seconds I started getting a lot more kills with them.

  • @carlomendoza6173
    @carlomendoza6173 Год назад +2

    With the latest update Japan has an F-16 now, so I guess it's pretty worth it

    • @ziggecigarr6150
      @ziggecigarr6150 Год назад

      That is the only reason I grind Japan

    • @carlomendoza6173
      @carlomendoza6173 Год назад

      @@ziggecigarr6150 for real man, I got the Japanese F-16 maxed out and it's really worth it

  • @sentinelxcix2526
    @sentinelxcix2526 Год назад +1

    Any chance you’ll revisit the JA37C once the BR changes go through? I got the J35XS after selling the event tornado and I’m getting close to it (already have the AJ37)

  • @ivanshishkov4473
    @ivanshishkov4473 Год назад

    also about the missiles, i dont know which have this feature and which dont, but basically if a missile loses radar lock it just flies to the last calculated position, therefore if you keep moving forward you will fly right into its path

    • @lamborgatti-4783
      @lamborgatti-4783 Год назад

      Thing i loved when i was using the f4e,hell 2 years ago when it was the f4e and the mig21 smt the f4e was king but even now in a down tier is slams,radar isnt great but my god everytime i loose lock the missile would 9-10 times still hit the target,in the f4j ir f14 they just turn hard in a different direction almost like its making it impossible for it to get anywhere near the enemy after it looses lock

  • @andyeulu828
    @andyeulu828 Год назад +2

    I have buy the machine too grind my last top tier jets on Japan and i like the Phantom. The Plane is a Missle and Bomb Truck i kill many Basis with the Bombs and i make a loot of Money. For the Air VS Air Cpmbat i use my EJ Kai Phantom =D. The ADTW my first focus is Bomb the Base and then i try to make Air to Air Combat. And i like the EJ Kai so much i know is not agiel like an F-16 but i think is a good Plane.

  • @Azidic
    @Azidic Год назад +3

    What are your thoughts on the J7e? Do you think it's competitivenes will increase after the BR changes?

    • @ChloeTheMarxistFxg
      @ChloeTheMarxistFxg Год назад +3

      The big problem with J-7E is the repair cost.

    • @claverse5478
      @claverse5478 Год назад

      @@ChloeTheMarxistFxg it's a good plane so the repair cost is understandable

  • @LaminarTurbulence
    @LaminarTurbulence Год назад +1

    One thing: this is one of the few rank 7 premiums that doesn't have a fucked SL multiplier.

    • @makeshifthappiness1869
      @makeshifthappiness1869 Год назад

      So it's worth for silver grinding?

    • @LaminarTurbulence
      @LaminarTurbulence Год назад

      @@makeshifthappiness1869 No, just for silver grinding there are cheaper planes at lower BRs with similar sl multipliers and more favourable match making.

  • @jigsawalwayswins8636
    @jigsawalwayswins8636 Год назад +1

    I play it, like its a cracked out A4 skyhawk.
    Gaus on the center bottom and full missle loadout.
    28 second turn time with an extra gun aint bad at all

  • @vuphan3605
    @vuphan3605 Год назад +4

    Could you try flying out the F-3 Demon anytime soon?

    • @BOSs-1313
      @BOSs-1313 Год назад

      That plane sucks so bad

  • @HighjeX_
    @HighjeX_ Год назад +2

    One of the trains of all time

  • @BBFCvids
    @BBFCvids Год назад +3

    I think its a decent way to grind the Japanese tree, vs the JASDF sabre
    There is still upgrade potential with the EJ Kai, and while the future additions are limited its worth grinding out if you do like China etc
    If you main USA or Russia then grinding Japan is less important

  • @dieplijojo_9234
    @dieplijojo_9234 Год назад

    Can you make a video on dealing with the SU-11, because honestly I have no idea on how to fight them effectively

  • @CyberBot17
    @CyberBot17 Год назад

    maybe buying the premium japanese sabre might make more sense for a slower, cheaper and slightly less painful grind that will buy you time until Japan gets the F-2 or something
    idk I'm talking out my ass rn i don't know how much it will take for the F-2 to be added or how much advanced it is to the F-16s right now

  • @ghostofthecommentsection
    @ghostofthecommentsection Год назад +1

    "If you get downtiered to 11.3"

  • @theRealests
    @theRealests Год назад +2

    I played the tech tree variant when top tier was 11.3 and this thing was/is atrocious to play. The 9Ps are mid as mid and the 7Es dont really work. The radar is in fact, very mid and flight oerformance wise it is terrifyingly mid.

  • @deckpogi2680
    @deckpogi2680 Год назад

    been checking this and the UK one which is even worth getting for?

  • @locksneedfartn
    @locksneedfartn Год назад +4

    9:30 Syrian lead turn moment

  • @zedbarrett9376
    @zedbarrett9376 Год назад

    That video has some hilarious commentary haha

  • @stevepidge
    @stevepidge Год назад

    Mirage 2000c guns only. Can you get an ace?? Would love to see you try it!!

  • @yoloactual6975
    @yoloactual6975 Год назад

    whats the keybind to make my radar do a little search circle that nabs the target in the scope like that? My only radar bind i know that locks a target is "Lock Radar/IRST on Target" and 99% of the time i hit it, it does nothing let alone lock on to the correct target

    • @makeshifthappiness1869
      @makeshifthappiness1869 Год назад

      Oh you're talking about radar missiles. I deleted my other comment as I misunderstood and thought you meant lock on missiles in general. Your radar ones don't lock cause you need to use like 3 different keybinds for that. There's one that allows you to switch the radar modes. And one that let's you cycle through the targets displayed on your radar. You gotta cycle to the target you wanna fire at once they've shown on your radar and it will put that little green box around them. Then you still have to "lock air to air missile" on top of that and keep them locked on until the missile hits.

  • @natsukazeai3707
    @natsukazeai3707 Год назад

    could you make a video about EJ-kai for the next patch?

  • @sharkk127
    @sharkk127 Год назад

    Um almost tempted to by this cause I love f4s, but considering my experience trying to spade the f4e I don't think I would want to buy this thing, I would rather wait for the f4e in dcs

  • @Crembaw
    @Crembaw Год назад

    So you wanna leave the “AIM-9Bs” on? No 9Gs?

  • @monkeybrains911
    @monkeybrains911 Год назад

    What is the best premium to grind out an f16 then?

  • @matythebunny
    @matythebunny Год назад +2

    no idea how they're planning on leaving this at 11.0 while moving the F-4J(UK) to 10.7. not much difference, but the F-4J(UK) won't be flying against 4th gens

    • @justmonika4340
      @justmonika4340 Год назад +1

      F-4J(UK) isn't moving, its the German F4F moving down which is fair since it doesn't have any sparrows and only 4 AIM-9Js

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 Год назад

      @@justmonika4340 I definitely would have preferred giving the F-4F it's historical AIM-9L's over a BR decrease.

    • @Zoider_
      @Zoider_ Год назад +1

      @@fate3071 ill take bullying 9.7s over 9ls any day

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 Год назад

      @@Zoider_ still gonna get bullied by F-14's and Mig-23's

    • @Zoider_
      @Zoider_ Год назад

      @@fate3071 Actually no 10.7 sees like 8/10 games at a downtier

  • @ivanshishkov4473
    @ivanshishkov4473 Год назад +1

    I really dont know how the naming of these planese work. Soviet planes for example mean that more letters=better performance

  • @mavor101
    @mavor101 Год назад

    Downtier in this thing is literally just people taking full bomb loads grinding.. 100% seal clubbing

  • @jackriley3340
    @jackriley3340 Год назад

    bought 7 for me and all my friends because you told me so

  • @Dbars19
    @Dbars19 Год назад

    ummm with all the new BR changes the Sea harrier is going to fucking slap.

  • @giga_migga
    @giga_migga Год назад +1

    4:04 "Huh first time"

  • @besty453
    @besty453 Год назад

    that's so satisfying to hear sonic booms

  • @bobdole6768
    @bobdole6768 Год назад

    11.0 isn't bad with a 12.0 cap, a lot better than 11.3 british phantoms, do you think its better than the f4e (it doesn't have PD or agile eagle so i guess it is worse)?

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 Год назад

      Its worse on all metrics, same radar, no AE, no DF Sparrow.

    • @aleski6506
      @aleski6506 Год назад +1

      @@miquelescribanoivars5049 and for ground battles, no mavericks or guided bombs on the EJ

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 Год назад

      @@aleski6506 Yep, forgot about mudmoving.

    • @theoriginalcornisgood2.0
      @theoriginalcornisgood2.0 Год назад

      A lot better then 11.3 British phantom ah? You okay or not? It's even fucking worst and with the new BR depression doesn't help shit at all you know ah. At least the British plane has better fucking radar.

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 Год назад

      @@theoriginalcornisgood2.0 I think you reply to the wrong guy

  • @bennyohara2357
    @bennyohara2357 Год назад +1

    I wish i had watched this video before buying this thing

  • @steveee_0
    @steveee_0 9 месяцев назад

    Crazy how within 11 months the meta has entirely changed. You hardly find anyone above 500m, even at 10.0...
    Also facing F-16 and MiG-29 every single match now...

  • @sim6446
    @sim6446 Год назад

    the premium A5C grinders are some of the weirdest fucking specimen ive ever seen in this game
    some of them have to be bots

  • @fearlesspanda8564
    @fearlesspanda8564 8 месяцев назад

    50% off for f15 grind do it?

  • @mochabear88
    @mochabear88 Год назад

    gg

  • @illusiv8781
    @illusiv8781 Год назад

    Well uh too late I bought when it came out, the reason… well it’s was a black phantom 😓

  • @XnarozX
    @XnarozX Год назад +1

    just bomb with it, you will vs 12.0 every game, downtier is very rare (everyone is playing f4s)

    • @XnarozX
      @XnarozX Год назад

      bombing is good consistent sl and rp (its modifier is very good)

  • @melle9155
    @melle9155 Год назад +2

    Surprised this wasn't just put at 10.7 to start

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 Год назад +3

      This is Japan, they have a F-104 without countermeasures and wing pylon AIM-9's (so x4 AIM-9P max) at that br.

  • @AWACSHOUND
    @AWACSHOUND Год назад +2

    Honestly the F-4E and EJ (Not Kai) should just be put at 10.7 with the F-4Failure

  • @6._d._.a._.n_.9
    @6._d._.a._.n_.9 Год назад

    Please…need……prop..video…..

  • @the_jingo
    @the_jingo Год назад +2

    you think this's worst? then you've never played f4f late

  • @gabrielabreu5200
    @gabrielabreu5200 Год назад

    At least the f4f in going down to 10.7, it might be competitive there, but i still think the mig 21 mf is a better fighter

  • @theoriginalcornisgood2.0
    @theoriginalcornisgood2.0 Год назад

    The techtree version of this plane made me an even worst person then what the stock top tier MBT with heat fs did.
    So I bought the premium version of the plane since I want to grind the F-4EJ Kai faster and when another top tier plane gets added for Japan.
    Even the premium version makes me a worst person but it didn't break my SL. Only my ewallet.
    Now all I do is bomb 2 bases, insult Mig 29s that can't shoot down F-16s leaving it all to me in which I usually die.
    A Mig 29 and American F-16 attempted to bomb a base I was going for and I was infrount of both of them. They both tried to TK me but it didn't worked. So I sent two AIM-9Ps and tked both of them and now I am chat banned for 15 days since they both reported me because I was saying things about their mother's, insulting which country the both came from, spoke in Chinese, Bahasa and English all in one chat in there DM. I'm a very sane player due to top tier (:

  • @mamons_2339
    @mamons_2339 Год назад

    Kissahomie

  • @GreGoEDS
    @GreGoEDS Год назад +3

    A yes japanese planes, gaijin LOVES japanese planes, theyre NOT uptiered at all, and are COMPLETELY BALANCED especialy at 6.0
    ( I R O N Y )

    • @theironwolf1871
      @theironwolf1871 Год назад +2

      Trying to intercept 288s in uptiered zeroes is a bitch lol

    • @CaptainRasco
      @CaptainRasco Год назад

      @@theironwolf1871 ... why are you intercepting bombers in a zero

    • @Tom-jw7ii
      @Tom-jw7ii Год назад

      @@CaptainRascoI mean what else can you do at 6.0?

  • @ivan5595
    @ivan5595 Месяц назад

    This plane is bad. It always get uptiered against other much more capable jets. The Tornado IDS (German prem) is just superior in almost every way. No PD radar means the sparrows suck, and it doesn't have a front aspect IR to compensate for it.
    Essentially you're forced to kiss the ground, hope no one turns toward you (missiles track engines well), release your bombs, shoot some ground targets and in the unlikely event of you making it through all this, you can manage kill some unsuspecting targets

  • @No1harris_98
    @No1harris_98 Год назад

    I feel like the phantom is such a repetitive copy paste aircraft at this point.

  • @suzybean13
    @suzybean13 Год назад

    Just get the ml instead

  • @norway3062
    @norway3062 Год назад +4

    Play the yak 15p

  • @lukasier4215
    @lukasier4215 Год назад +2

    don't buy it, matchmaker is broken 12.0 every game

  • @Amexel
    @Amexel Год назад

    hi

  • @altair3232
    @altair3232 Год назад

    dear lord, still jets? bloody hell, play them more and you will develop yourself "skill issue"

  • @AWACSHOUND
    @AWACSHOUND Год назад

    9:35 Average A-5C player

  • @ggggggghg499
    @ggggggghg499 Год назад

    Play the F-4C

  • @desperatetogetsomehoes
    @desperatetogetsomehoes Год назад

    Lucky for this thing that Gaijin's matchmaking is shit