I was begging for that kind of handheld all the time. Anbernic dropped the ball and Ayn brought that BEAST to the table. This is definitely the RG killer!!!
Mate i have been checking RUclips every few hours to check your video and here it is, uploaded 1 minute ago I always like to watch your video for any emulation projects that i like to undertake be it handheld or PC. Thanks ETA Prime good content as always, your videos are just fantastic.
Something to keep in mind, the Pro and Base offer USB-C video out at 4k/60. The micro hdmi only supports 1080p/60 and you toggle between them with a reboot in the Odin menu.
I don't understand. First people complain about the RK3326 and say it's dated and they're charging 80$+ for that chipset then they complain about the Gpd xp and say it's way to overpriced(350$ to 400$) for the performance (I agree) . Then they say the powkiddy x18s controller quality is ass. Then they say get a phone poco phone and a 70$ controller. Which I think the controller is poopoo, the battery life is ass and enjoy your 21:9 aspect ratio with your ugly black bars. Then the Odin comes out to be priced around 200$-300$ for a way better chipset than the Rk2336. An amazing feeling controller, analog triggers, grips on the back, long ass battery life and great GameCube performance and so many titles. The steam deck is super cool and yes more powerful and it should be for you to be carrying around something of that size. I just can't believe people are writing this product off when it's performance is better than the Rk3326 ,cheaper than the GPD xp, way better built in controller than they powkiddy x18s Razer kishi and the Gamessir x2 and around 250$ to 300$ wtf are ya complaining about.
Lol I’m honestly so triggered too reading all these comments from here and Taki Udon’s videos. Some people are even claiming that both of them sold out, and shouldn’t be promoting this because they think it’s a scam to sell an older chip for that price. Theres also a number of them thinking it’s 1000 dollars, and not realizing it’s HKD lol! But yeah idk I think people are just trying to justify what they own already. This is highly competitive to the market, but they still might prefer to spend less money overall. After having tried the controller attachment thing, I wasn’t too impressed. It’s much better than it was in the past, but the added convenience of a real dedicated device is miles better. There’s too many issues that come with trying to use your own personal phone (or even an old one) as a gaming device. Like for me, I just really don’t like having to exit out of games just to answer a call or text. It also takes longer to setup properly to be enjoyable. Then there’s the whole needing to take your phone case off probably. It’s cheaper but still not as good as people are making it out to be imo. This is completely meant for gaming and is catered to it. Phones are phones. And the Steam Deck.. Well, that’s a handheld PC and in a completely different price bracket. The two aren’t really that comparable. The 21:9 comment though.. Lol that’s so true. The Kishi or even the GameSir makes it soooo long. The Steam Deck and also the Razer Qualcomm especially. With the Deck I don’t even think people are realizing how massive that thing actually is. Our hands kinda dwarf in comparison. I mean they literally had to move the buttons so high up, just so you can reach the triggers. It looks great but I’m not so sure I like the size of it. It’s probably pretty heavy too. I can’t imagine myself bringing it to too many places.
@@Justin-xi6ue you get it perfectly I'm playing the incredible hulk ultimate destruction on the Odin and it's a blast. When I was a kid and I bought the game I left it at a pizza shop on my way home and now I get to experience the game on the go. I'm making up lost time
Mostly comes down to ignorance, people dont understand a small upstart company will never be able to rival the pricing of multi BILLION dollar corporations that are able to mass order parts and subsidize cost (comparing to phones).....right now there are no big players in the mobile gaming market but ayn is a fresh air from the trash we've been getting from anbernic and gpd
I'm still using a Snapdragon Galaxy S9+ as my personal device, i've got a lot of emulators and games on it and it perfoms very well. Seeing this device has a better GPU makes me realize how powerful it really is, considering it is a dedicated gaming device.
Hey mate. Just posting to pass on my thanks for your videos. I found your channel about a year ago and I absolutely love the videos you post. Keep up the great work. Cheers, from Australia 👍
I just don't get it. With a Snapdragon 845 and 8GB RAM couldn't a tech gamer simply purchase a Snapdragon 855 or more with 8GB RAM (for example OnePlus 7) and a mobile gamepad controller for the same price?
Of course they can, if it's what they want. But I don't get the same feeling playing on a handheld with an attached gamepad, frankly. To each their own, there's not a right option for all but a different right option depending on the person.
@@manicminer1976 I agree with your point about the options. I guess for me, having the Razer Junglecat, for my Razer Phone 2, Razer Kishi for my OnePlus 6 and 7, and the GameSir X2 has turned those aging devices into a handheld. I was extremely close to backing the Odin until I learned it was Snapdragaon 845. Hopefully if this takes off they'll make a higher end version with a Snapdragon 855+ or 860.
I really hope this trend of handhelds keeps up for another 2 years, the upcoming generations of SOCs are really going to be jumping GPU performance. The emulation of the 2nd gen and Samsung collab I hope will be as close to and end-all as we will get for emulation. Switch and ps3 and xbox360 willl be amazing on handheld
Effectively a switch lite for grown ups. Perfect device for Emulation, Gamepass and if you have an Nvidia GPU in your PC get moonlight on this thing and you can play your pc library. I'd be buying one of these myself if I didn't already effectively have this with my phone and kishi.
What’s the refresh rate and aspect ratio of the screen? Idk why he never gives this info. Pretty useful to know. I’m also hunting for a new, comfy streaming device and this seems to hit all the marks I want so far!
This thing is pretty tempting. I wish it had rgb led and you could map them to battery use so they would change color based on usage. It’s always nice to have a warning light. I’m sure it has a pop up in android tho.
This is flat out awesome... Especially so considering the price... However, I picked up that Lenovo p11 pro you suggested last November and it's even better with a crazy long battery and sd870 soc... I do wish I picked it up when you recommended it cuz I could have saved a good chunk of money... That's for the videos
I just got a Gamesir X2, connect it to my cellphone, and voila, you have an android handheld device, and emulator workhorse. My current cellphone is old, but its still on par with what you just showed with that geekbench score.
I can't wait to get mine, i'm in the 6k zone of backers for this. Probably end up getting mine Feb/March, more towards March. Got this and the dock, fingers crossed I have no issues with mine.
What I would like to see for this kind of unit is the level of maintainability and repairability. We all know that the battery will not last much more then 2 years. The joysticks might need replacement, being mechanical and the d-pad buttons will need cleaning. The fan will need replacement and cleaning as well. Is there a thermal paste or some equivalent inside? How hard will it be to find parts and how hard will it be to service this device in 2 years?
AYN, has come out and said they will supply full replacement parts for all Odin models after they officially launch the device. You could buy every part needed to build an Odin yourself if you wanted, and also leaves the option for upgrades in the future.
Been waiting on this. Hope you'll cover ergonomics. In terms of how comfortable it is for long play sessions. And game streaming especially Steam Link. ✌🏾
It has curves on the back to grip your hands around. Obviously not as comfortable as a controller, but for a handheld, the ergonomics were much better than I was expecting!
Looks like quite a nice device. A product like this hasn't been available with this kind of polish yet. But with mobile games typically being awful and the Steam Deck releasing soon, I'm not really that interested in an ARM powered Android device of this kind anymore. If you're already getting a Steam Deck, I don't really see a point in also getting this device unfortunately. Maybe battery life but I don't expect to play that long on a handheld.
Definitely. I’d say the Steam Deck has a good spot in the market. But I don’t actually expect it to completely launch in February lol. It’ll take until at least June or later I suspect to get to people if it does start to ship (just look at the PS5). With the Deck you’d also have to be okay with how large it is. You definitely won’t be bringing it around to too many places, besides home. It’s also at nearly double the price of the Odin. The lowest tier Steam Deck is still 400 dollars and really isn’t the advisable one to buy either, due to the small amount of storage and with it being eMMC and all.
Cost of the chips .. companies like samsung can bulk buy them for phones but it gets expensive for indies .. there are already people complaining the cost for the odin with only a 845 chip isnt worth it.
@@MrNobodylikesyou so you are saying Samsung could have done it. They put Android in their ill fated Galaxy Cameras. They could have made a Galaxy Play series and been a real contender to Nintendo and Sony in the handheld game console space. Someone could have done this
I got mine last Friday and all I've gotta say is HOLY CRAP. I'm blown away... coming from RK3326 chipset chips and even my LG V60 phone with SD865 I am super impressed. I bought mine with the dock and the only gripe I have is the Odin doesn't fit the dock with the clear case and that I wish the clear case was a big more snug. Battery life is amazing. I've only charged this thing once fully and one top off when it got to 60%. My daughter is super excited to do some Mario Kart: Double Dash as a family :D
This device looks to be the best right now for the price! Although, I am a little worried with it being Android, eventually Android games and updates will no longer be supported if it doesn't continue to get updates, right? Or, hopefully another project will make Android updates for it?
It has to be android though! A brand new efficient PS2 emulator came out for android, meaning it has to be Android for smooth PS2. Apparently it can alternately run Windows 11 if you don't want PS2.
I think the qualcomm version will be best for this as there will no doubt be custom roms for it later down the line. I love mine though its truly an amazing piece of kit.
I don’t think they would have plans to support this device via system updates, this is already an aging SoC running an outdated Android version. As far Android mobile games compatibility goes, the Android version should still last you at least 2-3 years, which is fine since after those 2-3 years, another newer device would’ve came out by then.
@@NeroVingian40 They already said they will be providing bug fixes and firmware updates. Maybe not full android versions who knows, but definitely will be software updates.
Great video, as always. Personally, i would like to see in the full emulation video, if you can try out the ps2 game Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks, Dragon Ball Budokai Tenkaichi 3, The Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction, AND Need For Speed Carbon. All of these being (in my opinion) the harder one to emulate in ps2.
While I know it's cos Valve has the extra inputs and what they feel to be better ergonomics, I wish the Steam Deck was in this form factor instead. It's just way too chunky looking at the moment.
We're kicking off the handheld future nicely. I'm excited for more options to hit the mainstream along with newer SOC's and emulators. This is awesome.
Another reviewer mentioned that these devices can also run Windows 11 … while I don’t know if the OS makes the most sense for this hardware, I’m curious about performance in this use case.
Not gonna lie. I jumped straight to PSP emulation then went back to the beginning of the video. I commented on one of your older videos I was gonna hold off on these devices until one could run the PSP GoW games at 2x 60fps. My time has come.
for 300 bucks you might as well cough up 100 more and get the steam deck, regardless if it fails or not you are still going to have a regular handheld PC capable of running windows and playing most of the emulators you can throw at it. I would not be surprised at all if the deck is able to emulate the switch.
Not comparable devices, no question Steam Deck is more powerful, it's also twice has heavy with worse battery life. Given the choice 10 out 10 times I will choose the more comfortable device.
steam deck is huge and defeats the purpose of having a pocketable device. i mean i'm sure it has its use cases but people interested in the odin want something small
@@TalynOne I'd say the Steam Deck will be more comfortable being full controller sized. My hands always cramp up trying to game on my Switch Lite and New 3DS "XL".
@@NeroVingian40 It's a 33% increase in price for more than a 33% increase in value if you ask me, but it depends on what you're looking for. They're very different devices. If you want an ARM powered compact portable that's meant to run Android but can also run Windows 11 ARM, and ARM Linux; then the Odin Pro is a fantastic value. If your like me, and you want a true handheld X86-64 Linux/Windows gaming PC with controls equivalent to full sized console controllers, then the Steam Deck is right up your alley.
the new dolphin emulator is really great I'm using snapdragon 665 and it's running great and aethersx2 is a beast using the latest version I can now run NFS most wanted black edition in 2x resolution 😅😅😅
I looks awesome! I think the only way this handhelds can surprise is by releasing new models every year or every two years with better chips. This will soon be outdated.
@@icerink239 yeah. I am currently checking out sony xperia 5 2018. Snapdragon 845 and an oled display. Have to check the dual sim model as it it has microsd slot
@@bluefrancis14 hmmm, I think it's still worth it because of the display out? Just strap a thermoelectric cooler on the phone to eliminate the throttling issues.
I’ve been using my spare phone Galaxy Note 20 Ultra for emulating but I really like the integrated controller, the built in fan and the Odin frontend that this offers. It would be a nice device to have until the steam deck ships.
Since snapdragon 845 does support arm windows on arm would be interesting to see such handhelds with a windows OS in it and if it has any advantages over it running Android.
im waiting for a video on the odin pro running windows... there's only one video and it's about playing this old game:/ I want to see if it can run at least modern indie games like Eastward, Bloodstained, etc, I'd love to play those on a handheld.
For those wondering because he never lists a price(please list prices as tested).. . The Oden Pro on the promo (as its' discounted right now) is $289 USD...
I personally use the galaxy tab s7+ for ps2 games and other emulators and it runs amazing ratchet and clank is still a clunky mess tho sadly but that's just a known hard game to run with ps2 emus I think the odin is awsome as a step forward but I can't deal with that screen size to small.
Very tempted to get it, but I will be getting the Steam deck as well and also ordered the retroid pocket 2+ (waiting for it to ship). And it doesn’t look like it handles PS2 and GC perfectly (might be an Android problem).
Really really tempted, I think I'd like to hear about the lite, I'll be looking to play things on xcloud and ps1 games for offline like on a plane, plus I'd prefer the low cost as it might dropped or lost. but I am good with my devices
Whats the point when you can just connect a Bluetooth controller or wired controller like the razer to your phone and get the same exact experience for a fraction of the cost
Great content as always. I've commented on this device on other videos and channels, but one thing I'm beginning to wonder is if the proliferation of devices like this is going to spurn more devs to release games on Android; even if they are AAA games from days past. Alternatively, a bigger push to get more people subscribed to Stadia. Perhaps they could find a niche and some revenue in Android releases? This was pushed pretty hard with the Nvidia Shield TV (I have Borderlands 2, Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel, Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 running natively on Shield from Google Play). This isn't 2015 anymore, though. There are Android portables everywhere (not to mention our game console-like phones and tablets; some of which overpower the Nintendo Switch, and we see third party and AAA getting better and better on it as the platform ages), I'd like to eventually see for instance the Crysis trilogy, Dying Light or even Doom 2016 come to the platform. I know there are streaming services like Stadia, but the adoption rate *could* be better and maybe offering some games naively could be an extra source of income for devs and a benefit to players.
Hey ETA Prime! Will the lite model be that much worse? Right now you can actually pay for a ram and storage upgrade. Wouldn’t that make it pretty equal?
Obviously they intend the 845 to be the more powerful chip because they're calling the Dimensity version "lite" but looking at benchmarks between those two chips... it looks like it's a close race to be honest. The 845 was a flagship chip in 2018 but the Dimensity just came out 6 months ago, and it has that Wi-Fi 6 and Android 11 that are missing from the pro...
I just realized that the Odin is just a bit off from the specs of a Samsung Galaxy s10e! Odin has the snapdragon 844 and the S10e has the 855, but the Odin has more ram. They did a phenomenal job with the Odin, wouldn't mind one myself!
There's an error on the specs, sd845 has Adreno 630, 640 is from sd855. Imo none of the models are worth it, lite is a midrange soc so there's no point on many of the features and the higher models have an soc that is EOL, Qualcomm won't support it anymore and the device totally depends on people the community doing something which is not ideal.
It'd be awesome if you could make a performance comparison between the Switch running Android vs one of those newer android handhelds which came out recently.
This is pretty neat even though it's an older chip. I Have a question though, about the chip. My Note 9, with the same chip, runs 3ds and Gamecube games better than perfect (higher rez)....is this like a scaled down chip or something?
Small error in the specs list: Snapdragon 845 has Adreno 630, not 640. Another small thing is that you didn't mention that there's a Quiet fan mode if you're not using the High Performance setting.
I would like to see the steam streaming. Seems like a great upgrade from using my old PSP for emulation. I like this form factor and button layout. How long is the battery life?
Streaming works amazingly well and the battery life is also amazing. Obviously depends on the use case but I'd say 4 to 6 hrs. I haven't used it continuously that long though so it's just my impression from brief uses.
it's much better than 4-6 hours. Watch Taki udon's video, he tested the battery life for each emulator, some emulators can give you 11 hours of game time. Others give 10 ,8 some 6. I don't think there's any emulator that will give you 4 hours. It's more than that by a lot
Id get these now while the IGG campaign is still on .. once the price goes up these wont be worth it any more .. not to mention all the other handhelds that will no doubt follow this year.
Thanks for the video! If you do more testing, can you test the need for speed games on both the dolphin and aethersx emu? From what I heard, they are harder to emulate, nfs carbon epecially. Would really love to see how they perform.
![The new KING of Emulation [AYN Odin]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qOE76NBOTCw/mqdefault.jpg)
I was watching your older videos while I waited for the new one. Thank you so much, you make my days better
I was begging for that kind of handheld all the time. Anbernic dropped the ball and Ayn brought that BEAST to the table.
This is definitely the RG killer!!!
This is one awesome handheld indeed, thanks for showing 😄
Did you ordered one wicked?
Wicked! Time for another package from China!!👍😁
When is package comin up?
@@diomaiaal nnnड🙄🤩
@@diomaiaal 😍😍😡😡😡
Mate i have been checking RUclips every few hours to check your video and here it is, uploaded 1 minute ago
I always like to watch your video for any emulation projects that i like to undertake be it handheld or PC.
Thanks ETA Prime good content as always, your videos are just fantastic.
Something to keep in mind, the Pro and Base offer USB-C video out at 4k/60. The micro hdmi only supports 1080p/60 and you toggle between them with a reboot in the Odin menu.
I don't understand. First people complain about the RK3326 and say it's dated and they're charging 80$+ for that chipset then they complain about the Gpd xp and say it's way to overpriced(350$ to 400$) for the performance (I agree) . Then they say the powkiddy x18s controller quality is ass. Then they say get a phone poco phone and a 70$ controller. Which I think the controller is poopoo, the battery life is ass and enjoy your 21:9 aspect ratio with your ugly black bars. Then the Odin comes out to be priced around 200$-300$ for a way better chipset than the Rk2336. An amazing feeling controller, analog triggers, grips on the back, long ass battery life and great GameCube performance and so many titles. The steam deck is super cool and yes more powerful and it should be for you to be carrying around something of that size. I just can't believe people are writing this product off when it's performance is better than the Rk3326 ,cheaper than the GPD xp, way better built in controller than they powkiddy x18s Razer kishi and the Gamessir x2 and around 250$ to 300$ wtf are ya complaining about.
Lol I’m honestly so triggered too reading all these comments from here and Taki Udon’s videos. Some people are even claiming that both of them sold out, and shouldn’t be promoting this because they think it’s a scam to sell an older chip for that price. Theres also a number of them thinking it’s 1000 dollars, and not realizing it’s HKD lol! But yeah idk I think people are just trying to justify what they own already. This is highly competitive to the market, but they still might prefer to spend less money overall.
After having tried the controller attachment thing, I wasn’t too impressed. It’s much better than it was in the past, but the added convenience of a real dedicated device is miles better. There’s too many issues that come with trying to use your own personal phone (or even an old one) as a gaming device. Like for me, I just really don’t like having to exit out of games just to answer a call or text. It also takes longer to setup properly to be enjoyable. Then there’s the whole needing to take your phone case off probably. It’s cheaper but still not as good as people are making it out to be imo. This is completely meant for gaming and is catered to it. Phones are phones. And the Steam Deck.. Well, that’s a handheld PC and in a completely different price bracket. The two aren’t really that comparable.
The 21:9 comment though.. Lol that’s so true. The Kishi or even the GameSir makes it soooo long. The Steam Deck and also the Razer Qualcomm especially. With the Deck I don’t even think people are realizing how massive that thing actually is. Our hands kinda dwarf in comparison. I mean they literally had to move the buttons so high up, just so you can reach the triggers. It looks great but I’m not so sure I like the size of it. It’s probably pretty heavy too. I can’t imagine myself bringing it to too many places.
@@Justin-xi6ue you get it perfectly I'm playing the incredible hulk ultimate destruction on the Odin and it's a blast. When I was a kid and I bought the game I left it at a pizza shop on my way home and now I get to experience the game on the go. I'm making up lost time
Mostly comes down to ignorance, people dont understand a small upstart company will never be able to rival the pricing of multi BILLION dollar corporations that are able to mass order parts and subsidize cost (comparing to phones).....right now there are no big players in the mobile gaming market but ayn is a fresh air from the trash we've been getting from anbernic and gpd
This is really impressive. Sweet spot for performance vs build quality vs price. And the built in options are clever.
I hope Ayn keeps knocking out of the park with their pending release of the Odin Lite as well for more budget conscious gamers.
Ayn website doesn't even load.
I'm still using a Snapdragon Galaxy S9+ as my personal device, i've got a lot of emulators and games on it and it perfoms very well. Seeing this device has a better GPU makes me realize how powerful it really is, considering it is a dedicated gaming device.
I believe the GPU is the same as on the S9+, but the advantage is that it has active cooling, so it can overclock the GPU.
I love the idea of the Odin, but - between my phone, Vita, and PC - I can't justify it as a purchase.
Hey mate. Just posting to pass on my thanks for your videos. I found your channel about a year ago and I absolutely love the videos you post. Keep up the great work. Cheers, from Australia 👍
Two years later and I just got mine I got 43 PlayStation 2 games up and running perfect Nice video as always keep it up🤘😎
I just don't get it. With a Snapdragon 845 and 8GB RAM couldn't a tech gamer simply purchase a Snapdragon 855 or more with 8GB RAM (for example OnePlus 7) and a mobile gamepad controller for the same price?
Of course they can, if it's what they want. But I don't get the same feeling playing on a handheld with an attached gamepad, frankly. To each their own, there's not a right option for all but a different right option depending on the person.
@@manicminer1976 I agree with your point about the options. I guess for me, having the Razer Junglecat, for my Razer Phone 2, Razer Kishi for my OnePlus 6 and 7, and the GameSir X2 has turned those aging devices into a handheld.
I was extremely close to backing the Odin until I learned it was Snapdragaon 845. Hopefully if this takes off they'll make a higher end version with a Snapdragon 855+ or 860.
I’m glad I participated in the early crowdfunding, awesome handheld. Really impressed with fit, finish and feel!
It feels so good in the hands
I really hope this trend of handhelds keeps up for another 2 years, the upcoming generations of SOCs are really going to be jumping GPU performance. The emulation of the 2nd gen and Samsung collab I hope will be as close to and end-all as we will get for emulation. Switch and ps3 and xbox360 willl be amazing on handheld
If I wasn't going to get a 870 based phone, then maybe I would get this.
Nice to see a 3.5 jack, shame high tier phones and tablets are dropping them.
870 thermal throttles within a few minutes and ends up the same speed or slower.
Effectively a switch lite for grown ups. Perfect device for Emulation, Gamepass and if you have an Nvidia GPU in your PC get moonlight on this thing and you can play your pc library.
I'd be buying one of these myself if I didn't already effectively have this with my phone and kishi.
Love my Odin Pro, what a great device, needed a good new Android Gaming system, my Nvidia shield Portable... is just to old lol
Lol I mainly use my phone since it cheaper and a attached controller
What’s the refresh rate and aspect ratio of the screen? Idk why he never gives this info. Pretty useful to know. I’m also hunting for a new, comfy streaming device and this seems to hit all the marks I want so far!
Odin Pro and Base are essentially the same thing. The only difference is having more internal storage and twice the RAM.
Well cheesed off..
Mine has a stuck green pixel...l paid £300 for the super pack including shipping
@@mmstick that r will make all the difference for demanding titles
Got my pro with docking station today! Can't wait to test this thing out!!
Didn't know this was a thing, pretty cool, I love playing on the switch on the go, and this is right up that alley.
This thing is pretty tempting. I wish it had rgb led and you could map them to battery use so they would change color based on usage. It’s always nice to have a warning light. I’m sure it has a pop up in android tho.
They're going to add RGB in the future
For anyone who wants something like this right now, get a used S10 plus with a razer kishi.
Am I reading that right in the link, £215 once converted from hkd?
I can't wait for someone to test Windows 11 on ARM on this device.
Taki udon is gonna do soon
Someone is actually workjng on that!
Wake up Bae, new ETA video
This is flat out awesome... Especially so considering the price... However, I picked up that Lenovo p11 pro you suggested last November and it's even better with a crazy long battery and sd870 soc... I do wish I picked it up when you recommended it cuz I could have saved a good chunk of money... That's for the videos
I really want to see you demo any of the jak games, they could be good for benchmarking.
I just got a Gamesir X2, connect it to my cellphone, and voila, you have an android handheld device, and emulator workhorse. My current cellphone is old, but its still on par with what you just showed with that geekbench score.
I can't wait to get mine, i'm in the 6k zone of backers for this. Probably end up getting mine Feb/March, more towards March. Got this and the dock, fingers crossed I have no issues with mine.
What I would like to see for this kind of unit is the level of maintainability and repairability.
We all know that the battery will not last much more then 2 years. The joysticks might need replacement, being mechanical and the d-pad buttons will need cleaning. The fan will need replacement and cleaning as well. Is there a thermal paste or some equivalent inside?
How hard will it be to find parts and how hard will it be to service this device in 2 years?
AYN, has come out and said they will supply full replacement parts for all Odin models after they officially launch the device.
You could buy every part needed to build an Odin yourself if you wanted, and also leaves the option for upgrades in the future.
finally, this is what we all waiting for
Looks great might get one later I just bought a poco X3 pro on sale and playing games on that
This has the same SOC as a Pocophone F1
Odin, Son of Ouya, come forth and Reign SUpreme
Nice review but 845 is a let down, I’ll stick with my old Pixel 2 XL and Razer Kishi with TV Launcher
Been waiting for a great handheld for emulation. Definitely buying, just wish there was more places to buy from. Great review 👍👍
Agreed. Being able to pay this off monthly would help!
Been waiting on this. Hope you'll cover ergonomics. In terms of how comfortable it is for long play sessions. And game streaming especially Steam Link. ✌🏾
It has curves on the back to grip your hands around. Obviously not as comfortable as a controller, but for a handheld, the ergonomics were much better than I was expecting!
Looks like quite a nice device. A product like this hasn't been available with this kind of polish yet. But with mobile games typically being awful and the Steam Deck releasing soon, I'm not really that interested in an ARM powered Android device of this kind anymore. If you're already getting a Steam Deck, I don't really see a point in also getting this device unfortunately. Maybe battery life but I don't expect to play that long on a handheld.
Definitely. I’d say the Steam Deck has a good spot in the market. But I don’t actually expect it to completely launch in February lol. It’ll take until at least June or later I suspect to get to people if it does start to ship (just look at the PS5). With the Deck you’d also have to be okay with how large it is. You definitely won’t be bringing it around to too many places, besides home. It’s also at nearly double the price of the Odin. The lowest tier Steam Deck is still 400 dollars and really isn’t the advisable one to buy either, due to the small amount of storage and with it being eMMC and all.
Great showcase, thank you. Looking forward to receiving mine 👍
Having this for a few days, it seems so obvious. Why haven't we had these kinds of handhelds for years?
Cost of the chips .. companies like samsung can bulk buy them for phones but it gets expensive for indies .. there are already people complaining the cost for the odin with only a 845 chip isnt worth it.
@@MrNobodylikesyou so you are saying Samsung could have done it. They put Android in their ill fated Galaxy Cameras. They could have made a Galaxy Play series and been a real contender to Nintendo and Sony in the handheld game console space. Someone could have done this
@@davidabner8885 Samsung could have and should have done it .. but the playing and downloading of Roms is a bit of a tricky subject.
ABSOLUTELY LOVED gaming PUBG on the Oneplus 6 with the 845. What a year 2019 was. Wish phones could be so simple again :/
How are phones complicated now?
I got mine last Friday and all I've gotta say is HOLY CRAP. I'm blown away... coming from RK3326 chipset chips and even my LG V60 phone with SD865 I am super impressed. I bought mine with the dock and the only gripe I have is the Odin doesn't fit the dock with the clear case and that I wish the clear case was a big more snug. Battery life is amazing. I've only charged this thing once fully and one top off when it got to 60%. My daughter is super excited to do some Mario Kart: Double Dash as a family :D
I can't wait... I ordered the dock too, so mine hasn't shipped yet. Hopefully it ships soon after CNY
This device looks to be the best right now for the price! Although, I am a little worried with it being Android, eventually Android games and updates will no longer be supported if it doesn't continue to get updates, right? Or, hopefully another project will make Android updates for it?
It has to be android though! A brand new efficient PS2 emulator came out for android, meaning it has to be Android for smooth PS2. Apparently it can alternately run Windows 11 if you don't want PS2.
I think the qualcomm version will be best for this as there will no doubt be custom roms for it later down the line. I love mine though its truly an amazing piece of kit.
I don’t think they would have plans to support this device via system updates, this is already an aging SoC running an outdated Android version. As far Android mobile games compatibility goes, the Android version should still last you at least 2-3 years, which is fine since after those 2-3 years, another newer device would’ve came out by then.
@@NeroVingian40 They already said they will be providing bug fixes and firmware updates. Maybe not full android versions who knows, but definitely will be software updates.
@@corsinivideos that’s what I meant.
Great video, as always. Personally, i would like to see in the full emulation video, if you can try out the ps2 game Mortal Kombat Shaolin Monks, Dragon Ball Budokai Tenkaichi 3, The Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction, AND Need For Speed Carbon. All of these being (in my opinion) the harder one to emulate in ps2.
While I know it's cos Valve has the extra inputs and what they feel to be better ergonomics, I wish the Steam Deck was in this form factor instead. It's just way too chunky looking at the moment.
Trade-off. The steam deck is a pretty powerful device. With a smaller form factor it will run hotter and probably overheat.
If you don't mind far worse hardware than what Steam Deck has with way less battery life.
We're kicking off the handheld future nicely. I'm excited for more options to hit the mainstream along with newer SOC's and emulators. This is awesome.
This was developed over two years so I'm not that surprised this is one awesome retro/android handheld.
Another reviewer mentioned that these devices can also run Windows 11 … while I don’t know if the OS makes the most sense for this hardware, I’m curious about performance in this use case.
I have installed windows 10 on my OnePlus 6t and now downloading gta 4 it works really well and odin have highest support from developer
@@irshadsayyad9017 Wait, GTA IV actually works and runs well on that device?
@@retiredtidepodeater3339 its need phone cooler for stable fps and run on 20fps
Taki Udon’s next video will be about Windows 11 on Odin if you want to keep a watch out for that!
@@irshadsayyad9017 debloat windows and do more tweaks then you get 30 fps
Not gonna lie. I jumped straight to PSP emulation then went back to the beginning of the video. I commented on one of your older videos I was gonna hold off on these devices until one could run the PSP GoW games at 2x 60fps. My time has come.
Super interested in seeing more Sega Saturn and Gamecube tests
"We're gonna start of light here for emulation..." *Starts GoldenEye* shows the power of this handheld. 💪🐨💪
for 300 bucks you might as well cough up 100 more and get the steam deck, regardless if it fails or not you are still going to have a regular handheld PC capable of running windows and playing most of the emulators you can throw at it. I would not be surprised at all if the deck is able to emulate the switch.
Not comparable devices, no question Steam Deck is more powerful, it's also twice has heavy with worse battery life. Given the choice 10 out 10 times I will choose the more comfortable device.
$300 vs $400 is still a pretty substantial jump though, $100 don’t just come out of nowhere.
steam deck is huge and defeats the purpose of having a pocketable device. i mean i'm sure it has its use cases but people interested in the odin want something small
@@TalynOne I'd say the Steam Deck will be more comfortable being full controller sized. My hands always cramp up trying to game on my Switch Lite and New 3DS "XL".
@@NeroVingian40 It's a 33% increase in price for more than a 33% increase in value if you ask me, but it depends on what you're looking for. They're very different devices. If you want an ARM powered compact portable that's meant to run Android but can also run Windows 11 ARM, and ARM Linux; then the Odin Pro is a fantastic value. If your like me, and you want a true handheld X86-64 Linux/Windows gaming PC with controls equivalent to full sized console controllers, then the Steam Deck is right up your alley.
I want this device alongside with my Nintendo Switch Lite 😀❤️
I'd love if you could share detailed emulator settings and how to get the best performance out of them.
This thing is awesome, it is literally like a hand held computer that plays games.
Every handheld electronic device is literally a computer.
If you mean an x86 this is not that the Aya Neo or OXP literally are though
the new dolphin emulator is really great I'm using snapdragon 665 and it's running great and aethersx2 is a beast using the latest version I can now run NFS most wanted black edition in 2x resolution 😅😅😅
Omg when you played tatsunoku vs capcom it triggered so many memories. Anyway, awesome vid
I looks awesome! I think the only way this handhelds can surprise is by releasing new models every year or every two years with better chips. This will soon be outdated.
Seems like a good design. But I Prefer phone controllers over this. Phones could do so much more.
Controller attachments aren’t expensive.
So, how about an old phone with snapdragon 855 and up, and use a gamesir x2 usb-c type, make it a dedicated gaming device, would that be a bit better?
it would be, tbh
cooling would be the only disadvantage
@@icerink239 yeah. I am currently checking out sony xperia 5 2018. Snapdragon 845 and an oled display. Have to check the dual sim model as it it has microsd slot
@@bluefrancis14 try the samsung ones instead. Most likely, the flagship ones will support display output
@@icerink239 not in my side of the world. They ship those phones with exynos
@@bluefrancis14 hmmm, I think it's still worth it because of the display out? Just strap a thermoelectric cooler on the phone to eliminate the throttling issues.
Will I see noticeable difference between Odin Pro and aya neo next while playing ps2 games.
Awesome job once again
Would love to see a handheld with an 888 or some like that. Would be so sick.
Yes!! I would maybe even want the device to be a little smaller (vita sized, rather than switch lite).
Would also love to see the Odin Lite review if you can! 😁 Curious to see if that'll handle Genshin Impact as well.
I'm sure it'll be at least 2-3 months before the Lite is released.
Nice device, but the price is the important thing here. If it's too expensive then you'd be better off getting a Steam Deck or an Aya Neo maybe.
I’ve been using my spare phone Galaxy Note 20 Ultra for emulating but I really like the integrated controller, the built in fan and the Odin frontend that this offers. It would be a nice device to have until the steam deck ships.
Since snapdragon 845 does support arm windows on arm would be interesting to see such handhelds with a windows OS in it and if it has any advantages over it running Android.
im waiting for a video on the odin pro running windows... there's only one video and it's about playing this old game:/
I want to see if it can run at least modern indie games like Eastward, Bloodstained, etc, I'd love to play those on a handheld.
For those wondering because he never lists a price(please list prices as tested).. . The Oden Pro on the promo (as its' discounted right now) is $289 USD...
Prices change, and are often regional. I agree with not mentioning prices in videos.
I personally use the galaxy tab s7+ for ps2 games and other emulators and it runs amazing ratchet and clank is still a clunky mess tho sadly but that's just a known hard game to run with ps2 emus I think the odin is awsome as a step forward but I can't deal with that screen size to small.
Very tempted to get it, but I will be getting the Steam deck as well and also ordered the retroid pocket 2+ (waiting for it to ship). And it doesn’t look like it handles PS2 and GC perfectly (might be an Android problem).
Really really tempted, I think I'd like to hear about the lite, I'll be looking to play things on xcloud and ps1 games for offline like on a plane, plus I'd prefer the low cost as it might dropped or lost. but I am good with my devices
@@bland9876 steam deck costs alot more and it's very big
Are you playing it in performance mode?
They should make 888 version with built in fan. That should be enough to cover all android games and emulation
Awesome, my friend. 🤗 💕 Thanks for sharing. 💖👍 Have a good day.😘
Whats the point when you can just connect a Bluetooth controller or wired controller like the razer to your phone and get the same exact experience for a fraction of the cost
It seems like its the year of the handheld
Great content as always. I've commented on this device on other videos and channels, but one thing I'm beginning to wonder is if the proliferation of devices like this is going to spurn more devs to release games on Android; even if they are AAA games from days past. Alternatively, a bigger push to get more people subscribed to Stadia. Perhaps they could find a niche and some revenue in Android releases? This was pushed pretty hard with the Nvidia Shield TV (I have Borderlands 2, Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel, Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 running natively on Shield from Google Play). This isn't 2015 anymore, though. There are Android portables everywhere (not to mention our game console-like phones and tablets; some of which overpower the Nintendo Switch, and we see third party and AAA getting better and better on it as the platform ages), I'd like to eventually see for instance the Crysis trilogy, Dying Light or even Doom 2016 come to the platform. I know there are streaming services like Stadia, but the adoption rate *could* be better and maybe offering some games naively could be an extra source of income for devs and a benefit to players.
Hey ETA Prime! Will the lite model be that much worse? Right now you can actually pay for a ram and storage upgrade. Wouldn’t that make it pretty equal?
great video as usual. My question, is, how much more performance are you getting with this instead of a Google Pixel 2?
It's kind of weird to me that my almost 4 year old poco f1 has the same chip and is still one of the best for this kind of stuff.
Obviously they intend the 845 to be the more powerful chip because they're calling the Dimensity version "lite" but looking at benchmarks between those two chips... it looks like it's a close race to be honest. The 845 was a flagship chip in 2018 but the Dimensity just came out 6 months ago, and it has that Wi-Fi 6 and Android 11 that are missing from the pro...
Oh yeah? That's great to hear! How far behind is the Lite version? Would it be able to handle Genshin Impact well you think?
The A, B buttons are configed like a Nintendo, not an Xbox. I wonder if that will impact cloud gamepass ganeplay
The buttons just remap to the Xbox controls
I just realized that the Odin is just a bit off from the specs of a Samsung Galaxy s10e! Odin has the snapdragon 844 and the S10e has the 855, but the Odin has more ram. They did a phenomenal job with the Odin, wouldn't mind one myself!
High performance overclocks the 845 to be more like the 855.
Thanks for the video 👍
Something to note, the button config is similar to the Switch Pro Controller.
Nice that they're using the Nintendo layout and not the Xbox one. Makes playing emulation much more familiar.
There's an error on the specs, sd845 has Adreno 630, 640 is from sd855. Imo none of the models are worth it, lite is a midrange soc so there's no point on many of the features and the higher models have an soc that is EOL, Qualcomm won't support it anymore and the device totally depends on people the community doing something which is not ideal.
Love to see if NCAA Football for the GameCube or ps2 would run on this. Smackdown here comes the pain too
It'd be awesome if you could make a performance comparison between the Switch running Android vs one of those newer android handhelds which came out recently.
This is pretty neat even though it's an older chip. I Have a question though, about the chip. My Note 9, with the same chip, runs 3ds and Gamecube games better than perfect (higher rez)....is this like a scaled down chip or something?
I believe it's the same. The Razer phone 2 also has the same one.
Small error in the specs list: Snapdragon 845 has Adreno 630, not 640. Another small thing is that you didn't mention that there's a Quiet fan mode if you're not using the High Performance setting.
Sir big fan from India
Did you have the handheld in performance mode when testing Genshin Impact?
I would like to see the steam streaming. Seems like a great upgrade from using my old PSP for emulation. I like this form factor and button layout.
How long is the battery life?
Streaming works amazingly well and the battery life is also amazing. Obviously depends on the use case but I'd say 4 to 6 hrs. I haven't used it continuously that long though so it's just my impression from brief uses.
@@emiliof.8261 That sounds great!. I havent had as much time to play on my computer itself lately, so this would be pretty nice alternative
it's much better than 4-6 hours. Watch Taki udon's video, he tested the battery life for each emulator, some emulators can give you 11 hours of game time. Others give 10 ,8 some 6. I don't think there's any emulator that will give you 4 hours. It's more than that by a lot
Thing looks sick, only thing to wish for is a snapdragon 888+
Id get these now while the IGG campaign is still on .. once the price goes up these wont be worth it any more .. not to mention all the other handhelds that will no doubt follow this year.
Thanks for the video! If you do more testing, can you test the need for speed games on both the dolphin and aethersx emu? From what I heard, they are harder to emulate, nfs carbon epecially. Would really love to see how they perform.
For the price, this is absolutely worth it.
I wonder how my F3 (SD870, 8/256) would handle PS2 emulation.
This handheld is nice. I wonder how much they cost.
a bit weird but the directional sound in this video is better than any game i played in years