Bad at Bar Chords? Try THIS Instead!

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024

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  • @MusoraMedia
    @MusoraMedia  5 лет назад +14

    Just to be clear: This is by no means a complete replacement for learning bar chords. You still want to take the time to learn the standard technique. This is simply an alternative to E shape bar chords you might find useful. It is perfectly fine to learn to use your thumb early on in your playing journey. While a little unconventional when it comes to bar chords, learning to incorporate your thumb for things like a D/F# chord is very common early on. This just takes that concept a little further. Thanks for watching. :)

    • @jenf2580
      @jenf2580 5 лет назад

      Thanks buddy.
      Believe it or not I, I had lost my hope on bar chords today. I thought maybe my finger is thin and it doesn't cover all the strings. I will use this as an alternative just to practice progressions and also practice full bar chords for perfection.

  • @Alex-ti9ee
    @Alex-ti9ee 3 года назад +9

    Its harder than normal bar chords i think lol

  • @flash_g81
    @flash_g81 4 года назад +5

    I'm a beginner and discovered this technique while carefully watching the legendary Mark Knopfler, to see how/when he does barre chords. I realized he NEVER uses the traditional technique and ALWAYS uses his thumb on top, sometimes even to play the A string ! I'll go this route, as it feels much more natural. Moving the position of hand and forearm multiple times while playing, as with the traditional way, feels totally awkward and SLOW.

  • @hamedshah2363
    @hamedshah2363 5 лет назад +5

    Well I do not think this technique is a good idea for beginners
    Nate savage made a good video about barre cords
    Learn the concepts from him than practice
    Here are some tips that helped me
    Do not try to learn F cord or any kind of cords at first it will sound really crappy. just hold your first finger above all six strings on the third fret and try to pick each strings (You can use your middle finger for more pressure). Your fingers will hurt but the main purpose is to strengthen your fingers. (The stronger your fingers are the better it will be)
    Try to tweak and try different variations to pick every strings without buzzing.(Think about what takes the least effort to pick a string)
    When you are comfortable with picking all the strings try struming and now practice cords.

    • @daniyalasif983
      @daniyalasif983 5 лет назад +1

      I've learned that learning bar chords in a progressive manner is much better way. Instead of teaching beginners F chord right away start them from E at the 12th fret. It's extremely easy to do an E or F bar chord at the 12th fret and above. Then start going down from there and don't move on until you are able to play a fret perfectly with barr.

  • @jrvisions
    @jrvisions 5 лет назад +2

    Great detailed video Andrew! Know that It really helped with me to finally get that high E string to ring! lol That was always a bit problematic for me and now I'm all good! Thank you for that! :-)

  • @patrickjacobsen7805
    @patrickjacobsen7805 4 года назад +2

    I find bar chords easier than this way

  • @Buttertoast665
    @Buttertoast665 5 лет назад +6

    I’m done with all other tutorials.... your my guy Andrew 😁 the way you instruct is completely relaxing & connects with me as i have a learning disabilities! ❤️💯🔥

    • @MusoraMedia
      @MusoraMedia  5 лет назад

      Thank you for watching. Glad you enjoyed it. :)

  • @bobbys4327
    @bobbys4327 2 года назад +4

    The issue I have with smaller hands and shorter fingers is not being able to get my finger tips down on the A and D string. With my thumb over the top my A and D fingers are flat on the strings which mutes the G. There are a lot of vids that the instructors say: I teach people with small hands to do this (instructor seems to always have long fingers). Have one of the short fingered small hand person come on the Tube and show us how you taught them to do it!

    • @isaacarl0s
      @isaacarl0s 11 месяцев назад

      Did you ever learn?

    • @bobbys4327
      @bobbys4327 11 месяцев назад

      @@isaacarl0s no

    • @isaacarl0s
      @isaacarl0s 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@bobbys4327 pick the guitar back up, I already got them and I have small hands

  • @marczgheib7840
    @marczgheib7840 5 лет назад +3

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
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    let's just say i've been struggling a bit 😂

  • @lowi9871
    @lowi9871 5 лет назад +3

    If seen some people do that quite recently and was wondering what they are doing and playing. Thanks for explaining even though I have the feeling that I could have figured it out myself :D

  • @adarshjohn6407
    @adarshjohn6407 5 лет назад +8

    I'm talking to beginners. Don't learn only this. It's limiting. Might be useful if you're in a time crunch but learn both ways.

    • @MusoraMedia
      @MusoraMedia  5 лет назад +1

      Yep! Still important to learn both.

  • @JTTechie
    @JTTechie 5 лет назад +4

    Great video. Lots of people struggle with barre chords.

  • @Edward-MTBKR
    @Edward-MTBKR 5 лет назад +2

    Although I've seen lots of pros use this grip, it doesn't work for people like me with small hands. It's OK for power chords I guess, but the higher strings will buzz.

    • @kenjoseph2946
      @kenjoseph2946 3 года назад

      I have pretty small hands myself and I can use this technique comfortably.

  • @kris_pang
    @kris_pang 2 года назад +1

    Oh my god 👁️👄👁️ I can't even do this.

  • @luvg_rose
    @luvg_rose 4 года назад +1

    I've noticed Lewis Capaldi using this alternative

  • @cameronfielder4955
    @cameronfielder4955 5 лет назад +1

    Maybe it’s just because I learned bar chords the normal way before broomstick, but I find broomstick harder. My hands are too big I think (I can do it but much tougher)

  • @jeffybezos9517
    @jeffybezos9517 Год назад +1

    Been doing this forever cause like marty said jimi did it or sumn 😂 so I get all confused w normal bar chords

  • @arrow5599
    @arrow5599 4 года назад +1

    richie havens plays like that

  • @andrewboland1062
    @andrewboland1062 Год назад

    I can only play E Major, A Minor And E Minor Barre Chord, when it comes to A, C, D & G Major Barre Chords good luck 😂 hopeless at those, sometimes I get sick of playing the original chords and would love to barre chords better

  • @garygowland4738
    @garygowland4738 5 лет назад +1

    Pretty advanced technique. Not for beginners. Almost impossible on most acoustics.

  • @jessiestorm
    @jessiestorm Год назад +1

    I'm so glad you made this video because it's very difficult to find anyone willing to teach alternatives to barre chords. KT Tunstall and Ed Sheeran and others can't use them and yet it's still so difficult to find chord charts or whatever that help people like that. People with carpal tunnel or whatever else. So thanks a bunch for this

  • @johnvalerian8440
    @johnvalerian8440 5 лет назад +2

    Why not move your finger higher for more leverage is it’s a strength issue? Obviously you need to flatten the finger out. to fret all the strings.

    • @MusoraMedia
      @MusoraMedia  5 лет назад

      Hey John, Here is a video with tips on bar chords. ruclips.net/video/TqQYcYHF52o/видео.html This video is an additional/alternative technique to bar chords.

  • @JustinMathais-bu5vl
    @JustinMathais-bu5vl 2 месяца назад

    This technique is only good if you have lengthy fingers. I can’t barre the B and the high E at the same time using this method.

  • @skullmasher3905
    @skullmasher3905 3 года назад

    Yeah I'm sorry but thumb playing isn't easier than barre chords,it's harder.

  • @jayrsapinpinluciano1894
    @jayrsapinpinluciano1894 Месяц назад

    Its comfortable for me❤ but what if bar chords in A string

  • @SD-lm7fx
    @SD-lm7fx Год назад

    The problem is not the thumb, rather the other fingers muting string 3 and 2. 😞

  • @christopheranderson1968
    @christopheranderson1968 4 года назад +1

    This bloke is a good teacher. Good tip as well.

  • @jleverette666
    @jleverette666 2 года назад

    Not for people with short chunky fingers

  • @johnnysewardjr3319
    @johnnysewardjr3319 4 года назад

    What is the scale for all the chords

  • @TheHumanDragonfly
    @TheHumanDragonfly 5 лет назад +19

    As a guitar teacher, I find that giving students an easier alternative like this can cause them to develop the attitude that they don't ever need to put in the extra work required to master barr chords and they will start to look for shortcuts whenever they find something challenging. While I use these shapes during certain contexts, they don't help students with anything but E shape barr chords and won't help when it comes to learning A shape barr chords, which are just as necessary to learn. So why not just focus on mastering the barr chord from the start?

    • @freesk8
      @freesk8 5 лет назад +6

      I see lots of expert guitar players using the form in this video. It seems to me to be a very valuable tool for your toolbox. I have a hard time keeping it from being buzzy or dead on the E strings. But I can see that this shape would be less stressful to do while playing a whole song in front of an audience. I see no reason not to teach this to a beginner.

    • @LfunkeyA
      @LfunkeyA 5 лет назад +3

      shortcuts are great

    • @Adam-fx1pn
      @Adam-fx1pn 4 года назад

      Barre chords always cause my carpal tunnel to flare up so these are a great alternative

    • @kenjoseph2946
      @kenjoseph2946 3 года назад +1

      Ok but what if the players fingers are not long enough to play a barre while keeping the wrist straight? Then wouldn’t a position like this be beneficial rather than bending the wrist to bring your fingers up?

    • @Bensonbadger
      @Bensonbadger 3 года назад +1

      Barre chords are more limiting than this. There fine if your playing acoustic 4 chord turnarounds or quo....not much else. This method allows for much more versatility in your playing moving forward.

  • @bustercherry8734
    @bustercherry8734 4 месяца назад

    Playing a barre chord is waaaay easier than using your thumb to fret. Most awkward shit ever.

  • @brayan_lopes
    @brayan_lopes Год назад

    I would like to do it but my hands are too small for that.

  • @teampng6077
    @teampng6077 5 лет назад +1

    Can u make a guitar amp

  • @dk-cn1tc
    @dk-cn1tc 4 года назад +1

    i always just play the open chords and move the capo around between chords -- thanks

  • @gentlemenking2973
    @gentlemenking2973 4 года назад +1

    damn ... this is hard one.

  • @animeariif5966
    @animeariif5966 2 года назад

    I use bar chord with full bar and jimi hendrix thumb style both like go into a B major with thumb method and then switch to a C# minor with full bar chord

  • @cameronfielder4955
    @cameronfielder4955 5 лет назад

    Anyone saying this is a bad technique, ever heard of Hendrix, SRV? They played broomstick because you can embellish over chords much easier that way. It’s not a bad technique, but beginners shouldn’t learn it until they are really comfortable with normal bar chord technique (both e and a shapes) and even before that I believe you should learn the open chords. There are no short cuts in guitar, and when you build up a solid foundation everything else falls into place (with lots of regular practice of course).

  • @MULTIMOONSHOTS
    @MULTIMOONSHOTS 2 года назад

    Hi Andrew…Do you have any advise on “A” ,barre chord shape,
    double barre?using ring or pinky finger in conjunction with index finger?
    I like your tutorial’s👍
    Many thnx!👍💯🎸

  • @glennso47
    @glennso47 5 лет назад +1

    I learned you are not supposed to grab the fretboard like you grasp a baseball bat!

    • @rossthemusicandguitarteacher
      @rossthemusicandguitarteacher 5 лет назад +1

      You aren't. Do the real Barre.

    • @MusoraMedia
      @MusoraMedia  5 лет назад +3

      You absolutely CAN hold the guitar this way. A ton of our favorite players do this, and while traditionally, we're taught not to, it's perfectly fine. It's not great if you plan on shredding or playing classical guitar. But for other styles it's perfectly fine to put your hand in a position so you can use your thumb.
      Watch some videos of John Mayer, Jimi Page, Jimi Hendrix, and Stevie Ray Vaughan to see some examples of this style of playing.

    • @LfunkeyA
      @LfunkeyA 5 лет назад

      @@MusoraMedia these tradtions are classical western technique. tons of other cultures and musical styles have developed many of their own techniques, which are completely safe if done correctly, like any timeless technique.

  • @TheFakeyCakeMaker
    @TheFakeyCakeMaker 2 года назад

    What's funny is that I watched this and actually started playing Barre chords because of the advice about playing in classical position, did that smashed the traditional Barre! 😄 As I get better at them I'll lower. Thank you lol!

  • @parthivdas5383
    @parthivdas5383 3 года назад

    I am very bad in bar cords but still I arrange somehow the songs in fingerstyle

  • @royghosn18
    @royghosn18 Год назад

    This is usually harder to learn then a bar chord

  • @Bensonbadger
    @Bensonbadger 3 года назад

    I find that most electric players will eventually naturally morph from barre chords to this. It keeps the first finger anchored on the high e and b in the 'blues launching off" position and allows the thumb to mute strings as well. I would still learn how to play a barre chord if learning though especially if your a status quo fan.

  • @art-oq1pi
    @art-oq1pi 5 лет назад

    There are plenty of alternative chords
    You can find a lot of them in jazz

  • @Thisisshuasart
    @Thisisshuasart 5 лет назад +1

    my hands not big enough

    • @MusoraMedia
      @MusoraMedia  5 лет назад

      Check out this video. ruclips.net/video/Z9XR0IGALKY/видео.html

  • @brendanf6830
    @brendanf6830 3 года назад

    Do you still have to barre A root chords?

  • @apidas
    @apidas 2 года назад

    thank you. very straightforward

  • @JohnDAvery-tf4td
    @JohnDAvery-tf4td 5 лет назад

    This is bad advice. Although Clapton et al sometimes thumb over in preparation for, say, moving from F#m to D/F#, they don't use it as a *substitute* for barre chords. They only use it when necessary, not in lieu of proper barre chords. Besides which, thumbing over the 6th string is really only useful for the basic E and Em "shapes" and not much else. Try the thumb-over on 576655 (AM7) or 577585 (Am7) and you'll see what I mean.
    If you can't barre all six strings, then practice barring them using only your index finger until you can. Then introduce the other three fingers to the chord. Learning to barre properly rather than looking for shortcuts will save you a world of grief. It's much harder to "unlearn" a bad habit later on than it is to learn a good habit at the beginning.

    • @LfunkeyA
      @LfunkeyA 5 лет назад +1

      obviously people use it for majors and minors with a 6th string root. major and minor triads are what most people play, most of the time. tons of guitarists substitute those barres entirely with thumb-over. when i deal with my hand injury, barres hurt like hell and thumb over is the only solution. as long as it doesn't hurt your thumb, this non-classical technique is more comfortable for your wrist. 5th string root triads are way easier to bar, fewer strings obviously

    • @JohnDAvery-tf4td
      @JohnDAvery-tf4td 5 лет назад

      @@LfunkeyA - Just as obviously, there are situations such as yours that are the exception to every "rule." Django Reinhardt had to re-learn how to play guitar using just the thumb and first two fingers of his fretting hand. To my knowledge, no one ever faulted him for it. My point was that, provided one has normal dexterity, thumbing over is self-limiting and for that reason is a bad habit that shouldn't be encouraged.

  • @astralplane6182
    @astralplane6182 2 года назад

    This was very good - thank you!

  • @rossthemusicandguitarteacher
    @rossthemusicandguitarteacher 5 лет назад

    EDIT: Learn both ways I recant my earlier comment.

    • @MusoraMedia
      @MusoraMedia  5 лет назад

      Hey Ross! I can understand where you're coming from. However, many of our favorite guitar heroes (Hendrix, Page, SRV, John Mayer) use(d) this method ALL the time. When it comes to traditional guitar education, you're absolutely correct with your criticism. But in this day and age, many guitarists that take the traditional route get bored or find it too hard and they end up quitting.
      I feel that it's important to remember that many players have wildly different stylistic preferences and goals. There is absolutely nothing wrong with learning to play using your thumb to fret or mute the bottom strings. But as I mentioned in the pinned comment, that doesn't mean you wouldn't still learn the standard method.

    • @rossthemusicandguitarteacher
      @rossthemusicandguitarteacher 5 лет назад

      @@MusoraMedia I appreciate your kind reply. one thing that is really important is to make sure that you don't lead students down a route that is going to prevent them from learning good technique in the long run. Many people will never learn to play bars because they simply learn this.

    • @rossthemusicandguitarteacher
      @rossthemusicandguitarteacher 5 лет назад

      @@MusoraMedia this approach has a number of drawbacks. 1. The angle of the hand prevents stretching of the fingers when grasping. 2. students learn to squeeze with their thumb then lose the ability to move their thumb when need be because it becomes stationary.

    • @rossthemusicandguitarteacher
      @rossthemusicandguitarteacher 5 лет назад

      @@MusoraMedia this technique is a good tool for damping strings when need be. But responsible teaching would dictate that the student should learn standard bars first. Teaching this as a shortcut is going to do nothing more than provide a crutch instead of a tool.

    • @rossthemusicandguitarteacher
      @rossthemusicandguitarteacher 5 лет назад

      @@MusoraMedia furthermore you are teaching the student to apply more pressure rather than less and Barre chords do not take very much hand pressure to work properly.

  • @brandondaffa6604
    @brandondaffa6604 5 лет назад

    thanks

  • @mansin.8665
    @mansin.8665 4 года назад

    👍👍❤️❤️❤️

  • @DariaOrionova
    @DariaOrionova 3 года назад

    This is even worse for me. Ah well. I guess I'll throw that guitar out the window now.

  • @uswaizum732
    @uswaizum732 5 лет назад +1

    👍👍👏👏👏

  • @CarloToledo
    @CarloToledo 5 лет назад

    every guitar player knows how to do barre chords, so why not learn the correct one instead.

  • @art-oq1pi
    @art-oq1pi 5 лет назад

    This is bad don’t get people used to using their thumbs
    It is not a good technique to use when guitar
    Especially for begginers