Reminds me of the first good set of arrows I made. They were bamboo shoot arrows with self nocks, and within the first 5 minutes of shooting them I split one of them such that the thin field point of the second arrow penetrated into the hollow bamboo of the first arrow for about two inches. The arrow was easily repaired by applying some wood glue to the inside of the bamboo and then re-applying the thread binding at the nock.
I feel the same way about practice nocturnals for my hunting compound setup...the nocks actually have a little metal rod in them that works as a weight to match the real nocturnals, but as an added bonus, this metal rod helps redirect a robin hood shot so the shaft doesn't get damaged. The plastic on the practice nocturnal is extra sturdy too...but it can still shatter when hit with a true robin hood shot. I've had a lot of shots that looked and sounded like they were true robin hoods only to get to the target and see they bounced out and only damaged the nock....even when the plastic shatters into nothingness, I always have just enough of the metal rod to grab ahold of with some pliers to remove and replace with a new nock. I figured practicing with my hunting setup year round would help improve hunting season performance, but discovered this extra bonus after about the 10th unsuccessful robin hood...its already saved me a decent chunk of change while shooting 3d targets with buddies :)
Dunno how I missed this one. Have you tried Koc Nocks? They are really easy to nock, and I've not had a shaft split on me with them (yet). The occasional one has a roughish finish, but nothing that a quick rub with sandpaper doesn't solve.
Excellent recommendation, unfortunately I generally shoot wood or bamboo arrows. Anyone have a recommendation of how to reduce this without being able to use collars?
I make my own but generally I have been shooting mediterranean from European style trad and primitive bows. Nocks are mostly plastic glue ons with some sinew bound and horn reinforced self nocks. I've been recently shooting thumb release from asiatic bows and transitioning to horse archery so this would be my first batch of wide nocked bamboos.
@@dace48 I would think with plastic glue-on nocks it would be sufficient to use a tight thread wrapping on the wood just ahead of the nock, and cover that wrapping with waterproof glue. For wide nocked bamboo arrows, you can make glue-in nocks out of hardwood, horn, or bone. You can glue these in with hot-melt glue so that you can remove and replace them if they get damaged, and you can apply a tight wrapping of thread/sinew on the shaft in front of the nock for reinforcement. I have also heard of people using nocks made of solid aluminum, which would obviously be supremely durable, but would be more difficult to make and would also not be traditional of course. Another method I've heard of but haven't tried is to make the nock using two pieces of wood glued onto the side of the arrow to form the two sides of the nock, as shown in this video: ruclips.net/video/KHUr93JMjqI/видео.html. If this nock was damaged, the damage may be isolated to the two smaller pieces of wood, potentially allowing you to remove and replace them. If I was going to make some nocks like this, I would probably add a small strip of leather in the nock for more reinforcement of the main shaft, as was done with the arrow shown in this video at 1:40: ruclips.net/video/hTotQso20es/видео.html. Edit: Oh, and you would probably want to glue a small wooden dowel into the nock-end of the bamboo arrow to fill the center of it if you use the method where you glue two smaller pieces of wood onto the side of the shaft.
Unfortunately, M-Nocks are not sold in pin nock format. They only come in 0.246 and glue-ons for wooden arrows.The large size makes them great for fast reloading on horseback, but they are easily hit when shooting tight groups, and I've cracked quite a few arrows in the process.
Never heard of those. Will definitely be looking into getting some. Thank you.
Reminds me of the first good set of arrows I made. They were bamboo shoot arrows with self nocks, and within the first 5 minutes of shooting them I split one of them such that the thin field point of the second arrow penetrated into the hollow bamboo of the first arrow for about two inches. The arrow was easily repaired by applying some wood glue to the inside of the bamboo and then re-applying the thread binding at the nock.
I feel the same way about practice nocturnals for my hunting compound setup...the nocks actually have a little metal rod in them that works as a weight to match the real nocturnals, but as an added bonus, this metal rod helps redirect a robin hood shot so the shaft doesn't get damaged. The plastic on the practice nocturnal is extra sturdy too...but it can still shatter when hit with a true robin hood shot. I've had a lot of shots that looked and sounded like they were true robin hoods only to get to the target and see they bounced out and only damaged the nock....even when the plastic shatters into nothingness, I always have just enough of the metal rod to grab ahold of with some pliers to remove and replace with a new nock. I figured practicing with my hunting setup year round would help improve hunting season performance, but discovered this extra bonus after about the 10th unsuccessful robin hood...its already saved me a decent chunk of change while shooting 3d targets with buddies :)
That didn't break on release but on impact. Because you were too close to the target. All energy transferred to the rear end.
To the point ^^
Dunno how I missed this one. Have you tried Koc Nocks? They are really easy to nock, and I've not had a shaft split on me with them (yet). The occasional one has a roughish finish, but nothing that a quick rub with sandpaper doesn't solve.
I've tried them, but not on my own arrows. I'll get around to ordering some eventually.
Taking a few for the "team" .
The last broken nock was on purpose.
Where the first ones done on purpose too?? ☺
Nope, the first ones were through just regular shooting.
@@ryddragyn
Ouch .
Good hopes .going forward .
Cheers
Excellent recommendation, unfortunately I generally shoot wood or bamboo arrows. Anyone have a recommendation of how to reduce this without being able to use collars?
Do you make your own arrows? And what type of nock do you use? i.e. wood/bamboo self nock, plastic glue-on nock, etc
I make my own but generally I have been shooting mediterranean from European style trad and primitive bows. Nocks are mostly plastic glue ons with some sinew bound and horn reinforced self nocks.
I've been recently shooting thumb release from asiatic bows and transitioning to horse archery so this would be my first batch of wide nocked bamboos.
@@dace48 I would think with plastic glue-on nocks it would be sufficient to use a tight thread wrapping on the wood just ahead of the nock, and cover that wrapping with waterproof glue.
For wide nocked bamboo arrows, you can make glue-in nocks out of hardwood, horn, or bone. You can glue these in with hot-melt glue so that you can remove and replace them if they get damaged, and you can apply a tight wrapping of thread/sinew on the shaft in front of the nock for reinforcement. I have also heard of people using nocks made of solid aluminum, which would obviously be supremely durable, but would be more difficult to make and would also not be traditional of course.
Another method I've heard of but haven't tried is to make the nock using two pieces of wood glued onto the side of the arrow to form the two sides of the nock, as shown in this video: ruclips.net/video/KHUr93JMjqI/видео.html. If this nock was damaged, the damage may be isolated to the two smaller pieces of wood, potentially allowing you to remove and replace them. If I was going to make some nocks like this, I would probably add a small strip of leather in the nock for more reinforcement of the main shaft, as was done with the arrow shown in this video at 1:40: ruclips.net/video/hTotQso20es/видео.html.
Edit: Oh, and you would probably want to glue a small wooden dowel into the nock-end of the bamboo arrow to fill the center of it if you use the method where you glue two smaller pieces of wood onto the side of the shaft.
Thanks, great info there.
That’s just what I need save me some arrows how much are thy.
www.3riversarchery.com/nock-collars-arrow-reinforcement.html
Have you considered pin nocks?
Unfortunately, M-Nocks are not sold in pin nock format. They only come in 0.246 and glue-ons for wooden arrows.The large size makes them great for fast reloading on horseback, but they are easily hit when shooting tight groups, and I've cracked quite a few arrows in the process.