Jackson Racing Supercharger Install - Scion FR-S Track Build - EP04
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2015
- Here comes the BOOST! A Jackson Racing Supercharger kit as well as an AVO Turbo World 3-inch Exhaust get installed onto our Scion FR-S and big power gains are on the way!
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the reason the charger fluid is blue is the same as atf being red.
if you find fluid on the ground, you can tell what it is
This is the best car channel on RUclips
Love the build so far, thank you for sharing the adventure. Cannot wait for more 86 action.
James Robertson Thanks for following along!
I like the information and details given for this installation, but I really like the genuine garage talk in between! 😂 every real mechanic knows you laugh and cry when working on a car lol
You guys have the best automotive videos!! Super entertaining and informative...we need to get you a proper lift!! I am always so amazed you can get all the work done with some short jack stands
STEELERS743 the struggle is real! We'd love to have a lift but the ceilings are too low in our current space. Someday we'll buy/build/rent a fancier shop space with enough head room for a lift..and 240V...and heat in the winter :)
9:15.. Wear safety glasses when you're working under a car.. Dirt and rust falling into your eyes then having to sit in an emergency room to get it removed is a bitch
Dee Jay Oh man, we've had that happen a few hundred times. And when it does happen, we start wearing safety glasses again for a few months and then we get lazy again. It's the circle of life. Or we're just stupid. Ya, probably the latter.
i love how u guys are canadian, shoutout from ontario !!!
+Solider Armatang And even more Canadian pride tonight! The Jays just won the ALDS over the Rangers!!!
Peter Tarach
i knooooowwwwww, i was studying and all i hear is screaming and yelling, cheering and crying, i was like huh???? but then i saw the reply and was like :O OMG
Yes new episode!!!! You guys are awesome, looking forward to more videos!
Kolya Guy Thanks! More coming soon!
Awesome update guys! Can't wait for the next ep
Mazda Dash Cam Thanks! Next one will be in a week or two, we've got some other work that needs to get done on the ASS2000.
If you are using the exhaust heat wrap or any fiber glass; you can use duct tape on your hands to remove the glass strands stuck in your hands.
Subbed!!!!!! I'm amazed with how easy and fast it was for the Engine to come in and out of the FRS AND how easy and fast the Supercharger went in the FRS! I'm a beginner, and after watching the swap and addition of the Supercharger, I feel like I could easily work with this car if I got one. Great videos guys, enjoyed this series and I hope you guys make more videos the same way you did this FRS series. Thanks
+ViceVersa Musik That's what we're here for. Trying to show you that modifying your car isn't as difficult as it looks.
I love your channel guys, especially how you don't cheap out on stuff. My mates always hassle me about spending on quality parts when there's something cheaper (but what they don't consider is that usually that cheaper stuff breaks easily, and fits poorly), but that's unfortunately what most people who own S chassis are like. Refreshing to see you using the S14 and this car for grip rather than drift! Keep it up, hope my S14 can be at that standard some time soon!
thesamandnath A fellow S-chassis owner that actually buys good parts!? You are a rare breed my friend but good on you, it sounds like you get the concept of properly modifying a car. Cheers!
Great job guys! Looks great!
***** Thank you!
Keep up the good work!
Great video and series guys!! Thanks!!
+Alan Hernandez No thank you for watching. :)
Im confused....why do you guys only have 15k subscribers?
TheDefensivemaniac Because we've been only doing this for a year! :)
TheDefensivemaniac One day when they're big we can say that we were a part of the original 15k subs lol
The good side of it is they can actually respond to questions and what not
Speed Academy Found you guys today when searching for car builds, great projects, watching most of them now, very entertaining, informative and inspirational. Content is very professional and deserves a lot more recognition. Keep on doing what you are doing and eventually more will notice. Looking forward for more project builds and videoes!
***** Thanks! Awesome to hear that you're enjoying the content. We've got some pretty cool projects in the pipeline that we hope you enjoy. :D
You are the best car modders in the world
Diarmuid O'Shea Thank you! We could probably name a lot of better modders out there but we love that you think we're that good. :)
At first I was thinking that was some sort of special exhaust wrap you used for the header since you didn't wear gloves lol...then a few seconds later you mentioned it lol. My initial thought was wow, he's brave lol
Amazing video! You guys made me so less nervous to do my install. How engine enternals is this build working with? Is it stock? Stock injectors?
You guys should have a cuss jar to fund projects haha
Subi Slide LOL I'd be rich, since Peter has a real potty mouth. He's an angry wrencher ;)
David Pratte I could see that with his furious genital wrenching LOL
Nice job!
Cant wait to see what kind of power this Jackson Racing Supercharger will make!
Random Logic Media We're so eager to get it on the dyno!
awesome Danish supercharger!
Parapapapaaa we're boostin' it
i enjoy watching this frs ep. this is my dream car. my car is mirage coupe. i live here in the philippines. i hope i can build my own toy car soon. :)
you guys rock!!!!
Hello guys great work keep going! Question is this frs still going how many miles have you put in the car with the supercharger and how reliable its been for you? Thx in advance.
Ooh buddy! POOWWAAAA
how much weight did you guys gain from the kit? would it throw off the weight balance? If it does, would you be able to notice or does it harm the performance at all? I know, so many questions. Looking forward for response, thanks guys. Keep up the good work.
I literally couldn't stop laughing when you fired it up and it was ridiculously loud on cam! Did you get a chance to see if it was actually whiter while driving? I love exhaust install vids
Daniel Tojcic Yeah, we've come to the realization that without switching back to stock headers the exhaust will always be loud. It is quieter driving around though.
Question: Wondering if you guys had any squeaking issues with the belt that was provided.
Very nice video. I am considering a supercharger for my 240z with a stock 280zx, 5 speed and Lsi 3.9 r/e. I want more low end, 2000-3000. I saw a 240 in the back ground in your shop. any thoughts? What videos have you done on your 240 and how do I find them?
hi, I have a Jackson racing c38 kit and live in Vegas so you know 100c + temps. What brand and weight oil you recommend? my car is daily driver and the occasional drag race maybe once every 3 months
Can this be added to a stock brz without any problems or will you have to upgrade any engine internals?
how is the fuel efficiency on 91 octane for that super charger system? City/highway mpg should expect within what ranges?
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You guys have great videos! Very good content and great quality video! But one question, may I please have the AEM intake that you guys took out? Need one so bad!
+BobMan BigSack Sorry but we sold it already. We take the money from the parts we sell and buy more haha. It's a bad habit!
+Speed Academy oh that's actually really smart! Where do you guys end up selling used parts like that?
Are centrifugal superchargers well suited for cold weathers? I live in Ontario where the temperatures get down to -20 C.
On another note, awesome video keep up the good work!
Any power adder is suited for cold weather. Why would it not be?
What are your opinion on Jackson Racing Superchargers? Have you done any installs on GSR Integra? Any advice of going on that direction? Or go Kraftwerks? B18C1 Motor
this is awesome :D, forced induction FTW
Claudio Decina We're excited too! Can't wait to see what power it makes.
Speed Academy for sure haha, i reckon about 270 at the wheels :D
Hey dudes i want to built a supercharge on my FRS do you need to replace any part of the stock motor for the Jackson racing supercharge ? Or you can leave everything original?
hi am about to install this set up too thus the tools on manual is all we need?
Just out of curiosity, could you have done this without removing that headlight? Worst case scenario I’ll do it but I remember having issues with the wiring in my headlights so I’d love to avoid that if possible
Do you recommend the sprintex SC for daily driver? Will I get heal soak issues with daily driving?
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hi, I have couple questions. how reliable is that setup? reliable than a 480whp sti on extensive track days? how much does this system cost? as I seen on video after installing supercharger, you did not tune the ecu. how is that possible? thank you in advanced
Are you gonna beef up the injectors or tune it at all? Don't wanna lean it out and blow the new engine
Do you guys recommend putting a supercharger on my fully stock
gt-86?
That what this engine was so yeah, if you want more power and still keep it reliable then go for it!
Can the Jackson racing be installed with stock everything
Nice build. Good idea going with supercharger. Are you guys building these cars as hobby or run a tune shop in your city? Are you guys finished with s2000?
jorges2000 still going strong on the S2000. Lots more to come. We have a private "shop" we work out of (a converted chicken coop, lol), but we don't work on other people's cars for money. We're former magazine editors (Modified Mag), so Speed Academy is our way of still doing what we love (building project cars, testing aftermarket performance parts, and sharing it all with our readers/viewers).
Would have been awesome if you could have used the airbox.
Yeah! Sounds good! Can't wait to see the power figures! But what made you choose a supercharger system?
***** we wanted something simple and reliable for Ontario1500, since it's a really gruelling event with 7 straight days of racing. The Jackson Racing kit is proven to be super reliable on the street and at the track, so it should be a really good fit for this event. There are other ways to make more power, of course, but reliability was our first concern, and at around 280-300whp (just a guesstimate at this point) it should be a really well balanced package with the rest of our FR-S's setup.
Speed Academy Thats fair and reliability is key especially with 7 days of straight torture for the car! however another questions; why did you guys stick with the stock/same engine from the cars base? why not a jz or a rb? or something along those lines?
Couple reasons we stuck with the FA20. First was cost. Doing a 2JZ or RB swap is big, big bucks and we simply don't have the budget for it this year. Second was the need to prep the car on a fairly tight deadline and have it well sorted in time for ON1500. We've learned the hard way more than once that trying to do a difficult engine swap and then sort out all the bugs on a tight deadline is a recipe for failure. We knew we could simply put a fresher FA20 in quickly and easily and add the power we think we need to be competitive at an event like ON1500 via a well sorted and proven reliable S/C kit like JR's. But we do reserve the right to be stupid and do a crazy swap next year! :P
Did you guys swap a fa20dit block in or just a stock brz block?
Also, what was your total time for the install?
I want that......
Why do you want to remove the ac? Does it take that much power away?
Woulda' went with the Edelbrock setup, personally.
i install the kit and my car wouldn't start with the new map sensor so i had to tune my car with the factory map sensor what was the problem
considering this kit for a daily driver. do you think it will be able to handle some of our colder canadian days?
ThroughFallenEyes Most certainly. As long as you have it tuned properly, the winter should bring no issues other than traction ofcourse. :)
I'd really like it if you could answer my question please speed academy... does it require a remap before it gains the full benefit?
+Christopher Hargreaves For the max HP/TQ gains, yes a full remap is required but you can get the off the shelf tune which will be slightly less aggressive and still make good power.
I have been following your channel. All good stuff. Just out of curiosity though; What was the reason to choose a supercharger over going the turbocharger route. Impressive build by the way?
+Lance McLean Less stress on the engine, less heat, and a more reliable package. We love turbos but for an event like we are doing reliability is key hence why the supercharger was the best way to go.
cool. I really like that you guys chose the frs platform... really get to see the potential of the chassis.
Btw was your whp figures made on pump gas?
+Lance McLean You should watch this: ruclips.net/video/8X9dK0H_bYE/видео.html :)
how's the supercharger for lower and mid range power? also is that the c30 or c38?
I wanna know the same thing C30-38? which one no one will ever know :/
What made you choose Jackson Racing instead of Kraftwerks?
Spencer Geerlings they were paid to promote it
question for you guys? after installing the sc. are you guys running all stock internals from fuel pump, pistons etc etc.. or did you guys go forged !?
+ricardo juarez Everything is stock internals, stock fuel injectors. We think the fuel pump may have been upgraded but we dont know forsure.
Hey guys, does the FRS not have the same boxer motor in it? Why swap an FA-20 in it, isn't it the same engine?
did you need to change anything in the fuel system.
also did you change the ecu?
+James Whiting No change in the fuel system and the ECU needs to be re-flashed, if you watch the Dyno tuning episode you'll see the process.
what sort of tune are y'all looking to do for this? curious on what sort of number this is gonna put down.
Benjamin Ellsworth We have ECUTEK and will be using OnPoint Dyno for a custom tune to maximize power. Hoping to make anywhere from 270whp to 295whp.
Guys so you have gone in with standard OE injectors and you haven't altered the ECU and now you're pumping what 7-8 PSI, so haven't you run the risk of running the pistons dry? ie on thin mixture like under 12:1? Also you won't get any extra power unless the fuel flow is cranked up. Did any of that get addressed before you started her up for the first time.
+gus bisbal I think you need to watch this video: ruclips.net/video/8X9dK0H_bYE/видео.html As for the supercharger operating during idle and cruising, it's not making any significant boost so the car runs and drives fine on the OEM map.
did you change the injectors?
What about the most important part - the tune? Did JR provide some piggy back to pull timing and an AF controller, or is there some stand-alone you guys are running, or what?
MrSlowestD16 We have EcuTek and will be headed to a dyno very soon for a full tune.
How much boost can you run safely on that boxer engines stock internals? or are they upgraded components?
+Zaya Young The engine is all stock and we've heard you can run 12-14psi safely depending on tune and gas.
Peter I wear the same Calvin Klein underwear as you :D
what did yall do for mapping?
Could you run your exhaust set up efficient for an N/A build or would you loose back pressure?
+David Sio Yes, this exhaust is fine for NA and back pressure is hotly debated whether its something that is needed or not on NA engines.
+Speed Academy thank you, Your videos are awesome btw keep them coming!
How do you replace the belt on the go?
How’s the rotrex holding up?
It looks like a turbo
Are you guys going to consider using water/meth in this like the grip S14? Would add that little extra horses.
Daniel P.S we did consider it, but Oscar Jackson Jr. felt it was unnecessary if we're running 94 octane pump gas like we can get here in Ontario. We may also add some race gas concentrate for a little extra protection. We haven't tested it yet, but it sounds promising. Check it out at race-gas.com and let us know what you think.
David Pratte Had a quick read through and it seems promising, but can see it getting finicky getting the mixtures correct unless you've got a big batch pre-mixed ready to go.
Look forwards to seeing what you guys do with it.
Ya, I agree, getting the mix consistent is the challenge. I think if we add a container of concentrate to a 20L jug and then top the jug up to the Full line we'd have a consistent method. Sounds like work to me, but work that could offer some safety and/or extra power so may well be worth. We plan to dyno test with it to see how well it works.
why is the intake not needed anymore?
The had a new intake that was specifically for the rotrex.
Hey guys, is anyone running a Jackson Super charger with the CRAWFORD BPB INTAKE MANIFOLD SPACER? you guys think i'll run into issues?
carb tune or custom tune? I have a carb tune on mine. But i'm interested in other options..
+Jonathan Hung Custom tune, watch the next episode and you'll see how it does with the custom tune. If you can get it properly tuned we highly recommend it, you'll pick up a bunch more power in the process.
You did upgrade the radiator right?
Yup we did a Koyo rad the year prior when prepping the car for Targa NL
I already have the JRSC and want to upgrade the radiator. Did you have any fitment issues with the Koyo? Happy with the Koyo?
Someone explain to me why the MAF isnt on the inlet of the supercharger? Do these things have MAFs and MAP sensors? Last time I checked a MAF can't sense boost.
Because MAFs can be calibrated to read positive pressure, it's called a blow-thru setup and is common on NA vehicles that are being turbo or supercharged.
What about adapting an MR2 rootes supercharger and saving $4000?
Do u have to rebuild your motor when you install a turbo or surpercharger kit
+tomminator3462 Nope, you can use it on a stock motor just like we did.
+Speed Academy I thought you would blow your motor by doing that because people told me or recommended that if I were to super charge my frs then I should redo my motor
Wouldnt you also need larger fuel injectors and a tune?
aceofclubskid definitely needs a tune (though you can buy this kit with a supplied tune but we opted for the self-tune kit since we already have an Ecutek and our buddy Sasha from OnPoint Dyno to tune it). At the standard boost level the stock injectors and fuel pump are sufficient, but if we upgrade to the higher boost pulley we'll need bigger injectors and a higher flow rate pump.
Hi Speed Academy. I m viewing the all video list and there is a problem in your build : you swap your FA20 in video 3 and put 5w20 oil in. You installed the JR S/C in video 4 but never spoke about changing the engine Oil. You did a Dyno in Video 5. But you never spoke about the Engine Oil. You ran a S/C FA20 with 5w20 oil ??
Yes, we still run the same 5w20 oil. There's no need to change it out as the engine is still all internally stock. We just ensure we have a proper race oil or high performance synthetic.
So I'm confused. I thought when you add forced induction you then have to tune the car, but they just bolted it right on and started it up.
+Nighthawk2112 That's because at idle and even low load driving the engine still operates like it did before the supercharger. We drove the car this way to the dyno, being very light on the gas and it drove completely fine. The moment that you switch out injectors or map/maf sensors is when the car won't run properly and will need to get tuned right away. Make sense?
Yea ok, that does actually makes sense. Thanks for the answer.
Why a centrifugal supercharger and not a twin screw like Cosworth does? The Cosworth stage 1.3 and 2 packages seem to be a very safe and reliable choice while still putting out some impressive power figures.
Spencer Staub There wasn't enough real world experience with the Cosworth for us to get it. The Jackson Racing system has been proven at the track which is what we really were after.
Then I'll have to be the first. Keep up the great videos!
Are you guys going to turbocharge or supercharge the ass2k?
Alberto Pettine we have a pretty cool power-adder coming soon on the ASS2K build. Don't want to spoil the surprise quite yet though :)
David Pratte So... engine work, not forced induction. I got you! Niceeee
Alberto Pettine haha, close but not quite.
David Pratte Walter White´s Blue stuff injection! ;)
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Speed Academy What pulleys where replaced by the jackson racing kit? I'm looking to replace the Crank, Water, & Alternator pulley; but I don't want to waste money.
Erik McIlhenney They are neither of those pulleys, all of them are the secondary ones so go ahead and buy those. :)
Why super over turbo?
Do you have to tune your car after installing a super charger?
HeroDanny Yes! Otherwise the engine wont run properly because it is now seeing boost. We'll be tuning it with Ecutek very soon.
Speed Academy What are your thoughts on the Jackson Racing factory tune vs taking the vehicle and having a custom tune via Ecutek? I know you guys are using the vehicle for competition which is why I understand you guys would prefer a custom tune. In regards to a daily driver with occasional autocross, would the supercharger factory tune from the supercharger company be worth the extra $1000 dollars? What are the major differences in reliability in terms of custom tune vs factory supercharger tune? Keep up the great work guys!
P.s., I know you guys stated that you guys have chosen the Jackson Racing supercharger kit based off of previous experience/known reliability of the system. Any chance you guys were also considering the Innovate or Vortech models? I've done research on those two as well and it seems people thought they were also just as reliable!
Vincent Torrefranca The main advantage to a custom tune is that it allows us to extract the maximum amount of horsepower from the supercharger kit. The off-the-shelf tune from Jackson Racing is a great option and will be completely reliable and safe but it will be tuned on the conservative side so it may not make as much power as a custom tune.
We looked at those kits as well and heard mixed reviews on the Innovate model but the Vortech kit seems to be a great option. We opted for a Jackson kit because it delivers more power in the upper RPM band wheres the Vortech blower provides lots of midrange power which would be suited well for a street car.
+Speed Academy not to mention the off the shelf jackson tune was not designed to work with aftermarket exhaust pieces like you installed. your car will be running terribly lean until you have it custom tuned. engine go boom otherwise
No worries, she's been pro tuned by Sasha from OnPoint and is making plenty of sweet Rotrex horsepowers :)
Turbo charger?
Can you please already install the kraftwerks v2 with 95mm pulley and the c38-92 supercharger? 18psi? 500hp?
guys with 100 mm pulley, stock everything except for a berk TP, and the c38-91 made 460WHP!!
Tony Nguyen The engine won't handle that much power stock and without race gas. Plus the transmission becomes a weak link.
We may do a smaller pulley in the near future after our event but for now we need to make sure the engine stays together and is reliable.
Could be installed on a stock engine?
Our is a stock engine so yes!
What tune did you get after install?
Watch the next video! We get a custom one.
does anyone know what intake they put in at the end?
+Hobo Hamo That's the intake that comes with the JAckson Racing Supercharger kit.
Can you explain how exactly air flows at 12:05? Thanks
+Yiyang BAO Air comes through the air filter and then the blades in the supercharger compress the air and force it out into the intercooler piping (the black pipe you see in the video) then it goes into the intercooler where the air is cooled which helps produce more power and reduces chances of knock. It exits the intercooler and runs through the piping and into the throttle body.
Hope that explains it!
+Speed Academy perfect! Was wondering why the turbo was just beside the intake but the pipe seems traveled a long way - but cooling explains it! Thank you so much
Do you have any guesstimates on the number it will put down? Or any expectations your hoping for? Any water to meth injection planned for the future?
Scott M. I'm guessing 280-290whp on the regular pulley. We may upgrade to the higher boost pulley before Ontario1500 (in mid Sept), which would certainly put the car over 300whp on 94 octane pump gas. We had considered water/meth, but Jackson Racing didn't feel it was worthwhile with the regular boost pulley and our high quality pump gas.