How Powerful is Saber Alter

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  • Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025

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  • @gintokithetrollgod
    @gintokithetrollgod 3 года назад +13

    Musashi is probably someone really interesting to scale because there’s statements saying she could turn infinite possibilities into one and her being stated to transcend time and space so that would give her immeasurable speed.

  • @notathiefbutatreasurehunte3653
    @notathiefbutatreasurehunte3653 3 года назад +6

    I'd be down for more Fate related content, there's hardly anyone who does power scaling for it as you've sorta already said. It's usually always skipped out on or just not known as much and I think seeing more of it would be very nice.

  • @justanotakulivinginasociet239
    @justanotakulivinginasociet239 3 года назад +9

    She's enough to make Thanos kneel to her.

    • @ανσιι-δ6ξ
      @ανσιι-δ6ξ 2 года назад +2

      even with outerversal scalling thanos is stronger (comics ofc)

    • @justanotakulivinginasociet239
      @justanotakulivinginasociet239 2 года назад

      @@ανσιι-δ6ξ I was mentioning the MCU kind but ok

    • @ανσιι-δ6ξ
      @ανσιι-δ6ξ 2 года назад +1

      @@justanotakulivinginasociet239 a ok, didnt know

    • @Joyfulnesspeace
      @Joyfulnesspeace 2 года назад +1

      Mcu Thanos is only Low 2-C
      Comic Thanos is out of the question

  • @izurukamakura237
    @izurukamakura237 3 года назад +3

    I certainly did not see this coming

  • @pointblank8060
    @pointblank8060 3 года назад +2

    First comment yessir and Awesome video bro it’s true there aren’t a lot of folks who do this type content preciate you for it bro Fate is one of my favorites right up there with Yugioh and thanks to that Yami yugi video I finally proved that He was strong to my brother 😁

  • @fajat1
    @fajat1 3 года назад +88

    yeah, i think saber alter is very strong, i mean she can do 4-6 men at once in doujin, even tantacles, thats really strong

    • @enkidude9372
      @enkidude9372 3 года назад +17

      👀 Sauce?

    • @resurrectedpa
      @resurrectedpa 2 года назад +9

      @@enkidude9372 you're nasty

    • @shoeske2925
      @shoeske2925 2 года назад +5

      Bruh damn youre crazy

    • @superflyrequiem
      @superflyrequiem 2 года назад +10

      How can he say something so brave yet so controversial?

    • @shoeske2925
      @shoeske2925 2 года назад +5

      @@superflyrequiem I don't know but he has sure guts

  • @nhazulkimonalos9895
    @nhazulkimonalos9895 3 года назад +2

    Thanks man I miss the fate content

  • @kingkobo2332
    @kingkobo2332 3 года назад +3

    hope we get to see more

  • @gusbart5856
    @gusbart5856 2 года назад +3

    On thing to note is that the parameter Agility doesnt represent speed in fate. Its probably one of the most obscure parameters next to luck.

  • @thelostking7573
    @thelostking7573 3 года назад +2

    Keep it up my guy
    I wanna see Jalter and more

  • @Ellesiumss
    @Ellesiumss 3 месяца назад +2

    Salter is like a max lvl tryhard on crits.

  • @ragna6410
    @ragna6410 3 года назад +2

    Now a video about Musashi.

  • @isharaven
    @isharaven 3 года назад +3

    Are you going to ever do the medaka box or reinhard heydrich scaling

  • @imthecoolest3884
    @imthecoolest3884 Год назад +8

    So basically she's basically a High outer to 1-S Being since she scales to cosmology level threats Like Altrea ?

    • @Jceditzs
      @Jceditzs 6 месяцев назад +2

      Makes no sense fr give me a literal evidence answer

    • @imthecoolest3884
      @imthecoolest3884 6 месяцев назад

      @Antipowerscaling I can show you do you have discord?

  • @BeasthunterC
    @BeasthunterC 3 года назад +8

    I just noticed something are you ZTL by any chance?

  • @Bigsmoke-tn3wf
    @Bigsmoke-tn3wf 3 года назад +2

    Fantastic video

  • @enderdragon9029
    @enderdragon9029 2 года назад +2

    Alter form servents mostly big bet sticks in FGO. Just look at the atk stat of the normal servent and there alter

  • @obitoGaming2554
    @obitoGaming2554 3 года назад

    In stay night visual novel it is stated the Excalibur is the strongest noble Phantasm among servents. And Excalibur = Excalibur Morgan.

  • @JustSomeGuy9
    @JustSomeGuy9 3 года назад +3

    If everyone can be argued to 1A in fate, what about the seven grand servants, are they reasonably "boundless"?

    • @TheOmniform
      @TheOmniform 3 года назад

      i have a boundless argument for a few people but not necessarily the grands. you could maybe argue the grands by proxy, but we don't see the best interaction.

    • @JustSomeGuy9
      @JustSomeGuy9 3 года назад +1

      Go ahead

    • @saberfan
      @saberfan 3 года назад +2

      They can be High-1A. Outerversal is a vast margin

  • @joz.x1747
    @joz.x1747 3 года назад +1

    good vid hub.

  • @musabnaseer816
    @musabnaseer816 2 года назад +3

    I wonder how strong are the beast of humanity are

  • @KesariBuddoo
    @KesariBuddoo 2 года назад +2

    U and guess who are the only ones that does powerscaling for fate

  • @AllYourPals
    @AllYourPals 3 года назад +1

    ok some questions regarding speed. dose something being off the temporal axis relay mean anything in it surpasses the concept of time? if they are being rayshifted there then arent they effectively going though a teleporter? i had always interpreted the singularity's as just being distortions of the timeline that we are sent back to correct.

  • @thetortoise4476
    @thetortoise4476 3 года назад +1

    Ayo you want the short version or the long version?

  • @baldomerorodriguez8656
    @baldomerorodriguez8656 3 года назад +1

    Please make a video of who would win in a death battle mystagon or august

  • @IWriteTooMuchForBleachIGuess
    @IWriteTooMuchForBleachIGuess 3 года назад +2

    *Man. If only I knew Fate.* Have a like and some algorithmic support anyways Bossu.

  • @RealRandomVsDiscussions
    @RealRandomVsDiscussions 2 года назад +8

    Servants don't have immeasurable speed. Bb said he it would be hard to go ftl even with A rank. Only gods and Edmond Dantes and maybe Achilles have immeasurable speed. The twins were dying wen going ftl

    • @kingofheroes1746
      @kingofheroes1746 2 года назад +5

      He’s probably talking about servants in their unrestricted state.

    • @s4g3sncere
      @s4g3sncere Год назад +5

      Existing off the Axis of time = Immeasurable speed 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @That_Guy_Antonio
    @That_Guy_Antonio 3 года назад +4

    Archer Emiya power scaling 🥴🥴

    • @suzakukururugi6440
      @suzakukururugi6440 3 года назад +1

      Emiya the goat

    • @nicolascreo5295
      @nicolascreo5295 3 года назад

      I mean emiya did solo her
      As counter guardian
      Alaya gave him power (that he lacked) and done

  • @greyhood3447
    @greyhood3447 2 года назад +2

    Yourube didn't notify me about this video and fuming

  • @Rodiacreed
    @Rodiacreed Год назад +10

    Fate Extra power levels are different than the the standard Fate power level, you can't use their feats there to measure the power of servants in FGO, or Stay Night or Strange Fake.
    In Extra everyone gets a huge power up.

    • @food2103
      @food2103 Год назад +5

      in extra most fate characters are not restricted in the same way they are in the other series so something like saber from the original visual novel VS her in extra the only difference is saber has less limits on her due to the situation

    • @dudebro4536
      @dudebro4536 9 месяцев назад +1

      FGO still has SERAPH and BB??? Also earth has several major restrictions that weaken their powers

    • @andrevanrooi3509
      @andrevanrooi3509 12 дней назад

      Yeah i think you're just misunderstanding lore. Even bricks in fate are like uni level because of the counter force shenanigans and like mystery levels.

  • @agoodname9726
    @agoodname9726 3 года назад +2

    Pls do Lancelot

  • @Ayahuasca98
    @Ayahuasca98 4 месяца назад

    Enough to help me through part 1 of fgo

  • @zacharyt.2694
    @zacharyt.2694 2 года назад +2

    Regarding the whole speed argument, what is your response to servants/divine spirits not being able to go beyond the speed of light without their spirit origin starting to fall apart? Although it is stated to be easier to do it in conceptual space such as the Moon Cell. This was stated/shown in both Musashi's fight against the Discouri and in the Seraph event by BB. I don't completely disagree with your stance on servent speeds I would just like to know your thoughts on this apparent limitation.

    • @RealRandomVsDiscussions
      @RealRandomVsDiscussions 2 года назад +1

      I think it's a travel speed thing. They only hurt themselves wen they travel. But if u have a + in a speed rank higher than C, they can for burst speed

  • @badassproductions4734
    @badassproductions4734 3 года назад +2

    Ah yes Baber Alter 😋

  • @Aesc_the_voyager
    @Aesc_the_voyager 3 года назад +3

    Waits what does cu caster do in the lost belt is he Odin like in theory’s

    • @amari7782
      @amari7782 2 года назад

      Yes he’s Odin

    • @Aesc_the_voyager
      @Aesc_the_voyager 2 года назад

      @@amari7782 oh sick how

    • @amari7782
      @amari7782 2 года назад

      @@Aesc_the_voyager I don’t know haven’t read through lb6 I just know that Odin is summoned into him

    • @gusbart5856
      @gusbart5856 2 года назад +1

      @@Aesc_the_voyager he is not Odin he has Odin on his side basically. If he were a literal god he could do half our work ingame lol

    • @Aesc_the_voyager
      @Aesc_the_voyager 2 года назад

      @@gusbart5856 interesting is there more to this

  • @Synkronist
    @Synkronist 3 года назад +5

    Why does Kenpachi wear bells?

    • @matthewmcafee2957
      @matthewmcafee2957 3 года назад +2

      it basically a handicap but I view it as a flex, as an opponent gets stronger, they'll reach a point where their reaction time can catch him, but the body can't keep up. The sound gives off where he attacks from so He has to be able to overpower any defense.

    • @Synkronist
      @Synkronist 3 года назад

      @@matthewmcafee2957 I wasn't being serious haha it's a joke a friend and me have where we ask this to the people who think Zaraki was faster than light during that fight.
      When the question is asked they usually don't have much to say lol.

  • @zekken987
    @zekken987 2 года назад +2

    I want to see fate videos please, I'm a new subscriber ❤

  • @thepolishlithuaniancommonw8986
    @thepolishlithuaniancommonw8986 3 года назад

    It would be cool to see dom elder scrolls scaling because that shit goes crazy

  • @chidorim4st3r5
    @chidorim4st3r5 2 года назад +2

    I scale fate 👀 made a few videos already on em

  • @billerpjc274
    @billerpjc274 2 года назад +1

    Anyway thank you for doing my side chick saber well 🗿
    My main baby is sakura matou

  • @muhammadtanjim359
    @muhammadtanjim359 Год назад +4

    How powerful would Alter be if she had avalon?

    • @robindumorabeyriere2870
      @robindumorabeyriere2870 7 месяцев назад

      The same, since Avalon does not work with her (otherwise Shirou would still have its healing in Heaven's Feel)

  • @TheOmniform
    @TheOmniform 3 года назад +6

    artoria solos fiction? sounds good to me

    • @ανσιι-δ6ξ
      @ανσιι-δ6ξ 2 года назад

      soloing fiction? not even close

    • @Joyfulnesspeace
      @Joyfulnesspeace 2 года назад +2

      GOD fusion Goku
      MilkMan Man
      Popeye
      Doomslayer
      Medaka Kurokami
      They beat her no Contest

    • @lowtieridiot8827
      @lowtieridiot8827 2 года назад +2

      @@Joyfulnesspeace I disagree with half of these characters. God Fusion is fodder, no mystery and a few others.

    • @nottomiokagiyu9830
      @nottomiokagiyu9830 2 года назад +1

      @@lowtieridiot8827 Hence the username.

    • @lowtieridiot8827
      @lowtieridiot8827 2 года назад

      @@nottomiokagiyu9830 My user has nothing to do with anything. You're just mad you can't accept the truth.

  • @apocrypha5062
    @apocrypha5062 3 года назад

    Can you make clan/race matchup plz? I wanted to know which clan or race is stronger?
    1. Pillar Men vs Chimera Ant :
    (Kars, Esidisi, Wamuu, Santana vs Meruem, Pitou, Pouf, Youpi)
    2. Fairy Clan vs Elf Clan :
    (Gloxina, Dahlia, Harlequin, Elaine, Helbram vs Licht, Patolli, Rhya, Vetto, Fana)
    3. Goddess Angel vs Qliphoth Devil :
    (Supreme Deity, Ludociel, Sariel, Tarmiel, Mael, Elizabeth vs Zagred, Lilith, Naamah, Megicula, Lucifero)
    4. Qliphoth Devil vs Ragnarok God :
    (Zagred, Lilith, Naamah, Megicula, Lucifero vs Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, Hercules, Thor, Shiva, Buddha, Zerofuku)

    5. Otsutsuki Clan vs Demon Clan :
    (Otsutsuki God, Kaguya, Toneri, Momoshiki, Kinshiki, Urashiki, Isshiki vs Demon King, Original Demon, Ten Commandments)
    6. Dragons vs Devils :
    (Acnologia, Irene, Aldoron, Mercphobia, Ignia, Selena vs Liebe, Zagred, Lilith, Naamah, Megicula, Lucifero)
    7. Demons vs Curses :
    (Muzan, Akaza, Daki, Gyutaro, Enmu, Rui, Kyogai, Susamaru, Yahaba vs Sukuna, Mahito, Jogo, Hanami, Dagon, Rika, Eso, Kechizu)

  • @stainhf6755
    @stainhf6755 3 года назад

    Great vid

  • @charles3519
    @charles3519 3 года назад +2

    I dont exactly like arguing with your videos
    they're sorta entertaining most of the time
    but how's it that in fate people use terms that would only apply to people who fobt have immeasurable speed. Take the fight against surtr where they said that he'd heal in a few minutes so they had to kill him quickly, saber alter saying that she'd take a few minutes to regenerate from a wound in heavens feel and just in general a lot of servants are often said to move at light speed or 400kmph or whatever
    these terms wouldn't make any sense if these servants weren't affected by time. the way I see it's like the singularities are in a place outside our temporal axis
    this wouldn't mean that time doesn't pass just that they aren't in our timeline
    almost as if they're extra dimensions
    that's how I see it maybe I'm wrong idk
    also the servants turn because the the grail mud not saber alter
    in a normal scenario she wouldn't have it

  • @matthewmcafee2957
    @matthewmcafee2957 3 года назад +3

    What does 1-A mean?

    • @joz.x1747
      @joz.x1747 3 года назад +1

      It means outerversial

  • @Gilgamesh97C
    @Gilgamesh97C 3 года назад

    You could have just said Excalibur was the sword that destroyed the white titan

  • @fernandopagninschmid4934
    @fernandopagninschmid4934 3 года назад

    next can be ozy, sigurd or hercules?

  • @FanticSama
    @FanticSama 3 года назад

    Might as well scale artoria too and maybe the likes of karna, scatcha, and other servants

    • @amari7782
      @amari7782 2 года назад

      She is on their level but people just pretend that’s not the case. Overall Artoria is much better than salter. Anything salter can do Artoria can do as well.

    • @gusbart5856
      @gusbart5856 2 года назад

      @@amari7782 Sabe ris not on Karna level but she is stronger than Salter

    • @amari7782
      @amari7782 2 года назад

      @@gusbart5856 actually no she is very much on his level. Hell even the mooncell considered her strong enough to be worthy of the top servant vessel. Even outside of that Excalibur is much stronger than balmung and has a kit that’s much better for spamming it

  • @bruhwhyme9378
    @bruhwhyme9378 3 года назад +2

    I LOVE FATE UMMMMMMMMMMM

  • @trapking2009
    @trapking2009 2 года назад +3

    How strong is og saber at full power isnt she above alter?

    • @shxki
      @shxki 2 года назад +12

      Full powered OG Saber is stronger than Salter if it weren't for Salter's connection to the holy grail. Without the grail connection, Salter would just be like a regular Saber but their fighting styles would be different. Saber uses tactics and strategy to defeat her opponent without having to put too much power in display while Salter has no regard for her safety at all and doesn't care if she dies in a battle only as long as she gets to deal as much destruction as she can.

    • @MsMilkshakeElla
      @MsMilkshakeElla 2 года назад +1

      Vanilla Saber has avalon and Salter doesn’t, so yes.

    • @nottomiokagiyu9830
      @nottomiokagiyu9830 2 года назад +1

      @@shxki Seems you only talked about the grail powered one yet wanked the Vanilla one "Full powered Saber is stronger". Matter of fact, Alter is more than just not caring about her safety. She wields the same power the Vanilla one does with the exception being that she doesn't hesitate to get the job done like her. That honor crap the vanilla one preaches means shit to Alter. There's a reason she's called the merciless King of Knights. Before you toss the speed argument, if your target is more durable than you it won't do much. Just look at her fight vs Rider.

    • @shxki
      @shxki 2 года назад +1

      @@nottomiokagiyu9830
      > Seems you only talked about the grail powered one yet wanked the Vanilla one "Full powered Saber is stronger"
      How is that wanking? It was clearly said that Salter has no access to Avalon and her Excalibur bursts aren't as strong as Saber's without the grail's mana pool so I have no clue what you are talking about.
      > Matter of fact, Alter is more than just not caring about her safety. She wields the same power the Vanilla one does with the exception being that she doesn't hesitate to get the job done like her. That honor crap the vanilla one preaches means shit to Alter. There's a reason she's called the merciless King of Knights.
      As I stated: "Salter has no regard for her safety at all and doesn't care if she dies in a battle only as long as she gets to deal as much destruction as she can" This is how she gets shit done if it weren't obvious in the first place. Salter's violent nature is what leads her to do her job and she doesn't care about her surroundings or the consequences. And you can't simply say "There's a reason she's called the merciless King of Knights." against me since that is what I am trying to differentiate between the two in the first place. Furthermore, the honor aspect is a basis for Saber to be nerfed but that is the purpose of her character anyway. To lose feasible battles.
      > Before you toss the speed argument, if your target is more durable than you it won't do much. Just look at her fight vs Rider.
      While Parameters are just for shits and giggles most of the time, Salter rarely goes up to speeds as fast as Saber. Salter's armor is also amped by the grail's mana pool and basically wears the same shirt as Saber without it, so I don't know why you call her "more durable" when Saber is the one with Avalon in the first place. Also, Rider already stated that without her speed, she would have been killed by Alter instantly. So you cannot disregard speed like that so nonchalantly.
      Now, if what I said didn't get to you, here's a simpler version.
      Avalon > No Avalon
      Infinite Mana Supply >>>>>> Regular Mana Supply
      Earlier comment didn't include as much details and information since I only gave a brief explanation and analyzation and I did not expect someone would try to give a take against it anyways, xd.

    • @azriel7530
      @azriel7530 2 года назад

      @@shxki 🤓

  • @yuanxinwang8219
    @yuanxinwang8219 Год назад +6

    Still isn’t as powerful as a shonen protagonist in his own show during the final season

  • @a1saucin221
    @a1saucin221 2 года назад +2

    isn't the Altera in fgo weaker than the one in the moon cell?

  • @stainhf6755
    @stainhf6755 3 года назад

    Can you plsss power scale makina

  • @xelic1996
    @xelic1996 2 года назад +14

    Bro why is everything so blurry on your video like holy shit man

  • @darthinvader5214
    @darthinvader5214 3 года назад

    good

  • @thepolishlithuaniancommonw8986
    @thepolishlithuaniancommonw8986 3 года назад

    Idk man her np is only an army destroyer

  • @Notoriouscj1
    @Notoriouscj1 4 месяца назад

    🎉

  • @charles3519
    @charles3519 3 года назад +2

    suprised you didn't just stop with fate scaling

  • @Gnomeslayer300
    @Gnomeslayer300 2 месяца назад +1

    quite weak i would go as far as too say shes of the weakest(non fan service) artorias. sh ecant even unseal 1 of her 13 seals

  • @rashaadwashington9479
    @rashaadwashington9479 2 года назад

    👍

  • @callmestreet
    @callmestreet 3 года назад

    How strong is archer

    • @amari7782
      @amari7782 2 года назад

      Very average he’s just versatile but would lose to any major powerhouse

    • @callmestreet
      @callmestreet 2 года назад

      @@amari7782 what if he became n official servant, with a god and all

    • @amari7782
      @amari7782 2 года назад

      @@callmestreet he was given one of the best masters in the fsn grail war. Mana doesn’t really matter for him and he’s still average just versatile

  • @vent5294
    @vent5294 29 дней назад

    I think the 1-A moon cell, is a stretch,since that means the is at the same level of the root, I don't think the connection to the root is not a very valid one since that means that the grail, (created by humans) is 1-A just because it has a connection to the throne of heroes, but Romani say that is not that impressive, plus there had being a lot of retcons, and we have the remake of the extra verse, so who knows, still I can understand if some said that they are outerversal

  • @mbell-b8o
    @mbell-b8o Год назад +5

    pls do saitama vs saber Alter

    • @tonyflores3630
      @tonyflores3630 Год назад +6

      Bro did u not watch the video?? She murders saitama with 1 finger

    • @mbell-b8o
      @mbell-b8o Год назад

      @@tonyflores3630 we still dont know saitama's full strength sooo.....

    • @tonyflores3630
      @tonyflores3630 Год назад +8

      @@mbell-b8o bro saitama loses to the weakest fate character look at their scaling n ull see what i mean

    • @mbell-b8o
      @mbell-b8o Год назад

      @@tonyflores3630 saitama gets stronger every day till the point he can one shot him from yesterday so we still dont know his true power

    • @mbell-b8o
      @mbell-b8o Год назад

      but i say misogi kumigawa solos both character

  • @John14.6OuO
    @John14.6OuO Год назад +15

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    • @kkkkkkkb9945
      @kkkkkkkb9945 Год назад +5

      annoying

    • @supreme_king_ultima5370
      @supreme_king_ultima5370 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@kkkkkkkb9945 No it's not, accept christ while you can.

    • @kkkkkkkb9945
      @kkkkkkkb9945 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@supreme_king_ultima5370 annoying with no critical thinking

    • @MayHugger
      @MayHugger 5 месяцев назад +2

      How strong would God Alter be?

    • @reuus
      @reuus 4 месяца назад

      @@MayHuggerDon’t blaspheme.

  • @noname-wk5bd
    @noname-wk5bd 3 года назад

    There is a problem with artoria alter vs heracles berserker was weakened
    And fuyuki heaven’s feel and chaldea artoria alter are different in power they would go by fuyuki>heaven’s feel>chaldea
    Fuyuki’s alter gets Direct mana from the corrupted grail
    Heaven’s feel’s alter gets mana from sakura that has the corrupted grail
    Chaldea’s alter gets mana from ritsuka that gets mana from chaldea

    • @2side1coiniskandaraslar69
      @2side1coiniskandaraslar69 3 года назад

      Artoria alter in heaven's feel is a different level compare to other artoria alter(saber)
      Because in there artoria alter has unlimited amount of mana from matou's grail
      And In that fight against Heracles she pretty much spam multiple Excalibur NP to bring Heracles down
      If you watch fate kalied oath under the snow where shirou can bring down 6 servant in a single night without any issue it's pretty much does the same thing to artoria alter
      But entirely Heracles could beat artoria if she doesn't spam her np

    • @noname-wk5bd
      @noname-wk5bd 3 года назад +1

      @@2side1coiniskandaraslar69 artoria alter from heaven’s feel has infinite mana that’s it
      Artoria alter from fuyuki can corrupt other servant and has Direct connection to infinite mana

    • @noname-wk5bd
      @noname-wk5bd 3 года назад +2

      @@2side1coiniskandaraslar69 first artoria alter did not defeat herc herself the grail weakened him and corrupted him and shirou defeated 6 fake weaker version of the original’s hell cu could kill all 6 of them alone also artoria did not spam excaliber she used mana burst most of the fight

    • @noname-wk5bd
      @noname-wk5bd 3 года назад

      @@2side1coiniskandaraslar69 was that all the arguments you have for heaven’s feel artoria alter

    • @2side1coiniskandaraslar69
      @2side1coiniskandaraslar69 3 года назад

      @@noname-wk5bd yea artoria alter heaven's feel is a monster

  • @deangelopaul6997
    @deangelopaul6997 2 года назад +10

    Okay I'm gonna say this now, and all better listen, you cannot put the character in the show and its game counterpart as the same people, they are not and in fact the game characters are not the same, everytime I see a fate scaling, you guys are always putting their game counterpart as the same people, you can't do that man.

    • @nottomiokagiyu9830
      @nottomiokagiyu9830 2 года назад +5

      Don't people like you (aka self proclaimed experts) turn every discussion into a toxic one wherever there is one? You shouldn't be talking at all.

    • @antares8943
      @antares8943 2 года назад +3

      The game counterpart is used because its the strongest version so yes its valid and cannon. The anime servants can't use their full strength because of Alaya so the only way to actually see their strengh is through game.

    • @deangelopaul6997
      @deangelopaul6997 2 года назад

      @@antares8943 I didnt say the game counterparts couldn't be use, I just said they're not the same people as their anime counterparts, and also not every game characters are canon, for something to be canon it has to be part of the main storyline.

    • @antares8943
      @antares8943 2 года назад +2

      @@deangelopaul6997 You said they shouldn't though. For something to be cannon the author just has to recognize it as important to the story

    • @deangelopaul6997
      @deangelopaul6997 2 года назад

      @@antares8943 yes, if the author recognizes it's as something important to the story than it would be part of the main story

  • @stainhf6755
    @stainhf6755 3 года назад

    Plsss

  • @billerpjc274
    @billerpjc274 2 года назад +2

    Great video but I don't buy that immesurable speed argument...
    They can't do that in real time

    • @emiyashirou1858
      @emiyashirou1858 2 года назад +6

      Nothing have to make sense , not even you know what the true definition of making sense is because there's so many definition and meaning of it, if nasu wants to he can do what you said ISN'T possible, he can make saber split the universe in half and you can do nothing but cope with that nonsense

    • @moistfist1054
      @moistfist1054 2 года назад

      @@emiyashirou1858 ugh… here we go…

    • @kings.223-f6q
      @kings.223-f6q 3 месяца назад

      he means the unrestricted forms of the servants