The EMIYA Alter Origin Crack Theory [FGO]
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Emiya Alter has been shrouded in mystery for the longest. One the more vague aspects of FGO. Today, we break the seal
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It's crazy to think that I made this video BEFORE the chapter was released, but yeah the hints were already there. Recent chapter confirms that EMIYA Alter had to put down Taiga as well.
I was just gonna comment about this, but was at work, no wonder Shirou broke. He killed his surrogate big sister
;-;
Its definitely ironic that you uploaded this before the chapter is released. Shirou definitely needs more love. Too bad they don't give out more Shirou Servants from the official bad ends (other than Mind of Steel).
Ya know what my headcanon is. He someway or somehow got shot by the omega effect (from dc comics) where shirou has to live on repeat these increasingly dark storylines. Either that or an intelligence that fought what shirou is supposed to be like went back in time and started screwing with his timeline to prevent him from getting his wish. The grail got corrupted or a dark corrupting force plagued multiple competitors (illyia and sakura) driving them to madness or to an abnormal state. One even corrupting many if not all but one servant. Erase all of that and you get one side. Illya rin shirou Sakura vs medea hiroto vs gilgamesh kotomine I didn't see Heavens feel so I don't know if kotomine still had cu culain. When you look at all of the interference and the fact the grain allowed the counter guardian a chance to correct history multiple times.
i just finished the fgo seraph interlude yesterday so this is good timing, i like how his character is twisted and fallen but emiya's core ideals still glimmer through him sometimes
I loved the visual of kintsugi on emiya alter. ULW is one of my favorite NPs too.
Should also mention Unlimited Lost Works is an origin bullet, those are formed from LITERAL PIECES OF HIS RIBS!!
Emiya alter is so broken that he literally forgets everything he does if he doesn't write it down. His body and mind are falling apart and he's held together only by his will. And every time he fights he literally loses another part of himself.
Well, but he can make Origin Bullets infinitely, no? His body is literally made of swords, so his ribs kinda regenerate. He can keep producing those, on an eternal cycle of breaking hinself and fixing, becoming a sword made for mindless killing. (my opinion)
Ok. I having second thoughts on continuing to use him.
@@Savitar_G.O.S Don't. He prefers it this way, and there's no saving him.
And if you listen to Alt Emiya's voicelines, AND read his note, this kind of back up his theory and if you read Alt Emiya's first Interlude... Yeah😢
I love the fact that you're uploading more often this year. Every video has been straight fire. This man does not miss!!!
I'm so glad you made this video because every time I would bring this man up, my friends would just ignore him. I have always said that the best way to understand this Shirou was to look at him when next to Archer. Archer is a Shirou who achieved all his dreams only to be betrayed by them, which later on, causes him to throw away his ideals whereas Alt, at least to me seems to have been betrayed by his dreams long before he ever could achieve them which lead him to abandon them just like Archer which, at least in my opinion is what separates the two.
I really like the character, from his history to his design, everything was thought out. Therefore I wanted to get him when he came to NA, but then they had to "brighten" him up...He looks even brighter than EMIYA now so it feels like a spit in the face of the character🙁
I too was pissed off. Darius is acceptable but Emiya Alter is not!?
All they had to do was fix his lips and he woulda been straight fire
Damn lucky he got a Strengthening. Because I'd gladly "unbrighten" him in the furnace if I didn't need him to stick around.
@@philiptombe5708 I think makin him lightskin was ass but tbf Darius wasn't originally Japanese and his artist didn't talk about basing his design offa black prisoners lol.
@infinitezion2029 Darius is Persian, Heracles is Greek. These two characters would be tan, maybe a bit lighter for Heracles. But from my assumption, the Berserker Class and whatever they did must have caused them to be dark skin when summoned.
Ive personally always been of the mind that Emiya Alter isnt even the same shirou from stay night, but rather a version of Extra's Emiya. Extra's shirou was established to be sort of like a softer kiritsugu until one day something changed to make people close to him grow scared of him. Considering emiya alter encountered Kiara at some point, its possible thats the change that happened to extra shirou that caused him to grow colder and more detached, eventually becoming the degraded Demiya
In FGO CCC event Kiria and Emiya did have a conversation with each other
Ah, more emiya stuff perfect
I can never get bored shiro content
It's always amazing
You know i can just see alt emiya on the ground dying thinking about his life and just before he saves sakura he recites a new chant. "I am the bone of my sword. Known to death and life. My mind is steel, my heart is shattered glass. I've winessed hell time and time again. It is unchanging. Yet, my blades are made to protect those who cannot protect themselves. Therefore, i remain. Unliminted Bladeworks."
Finally, it is Pucci's turn.
SHIROU TURNED BLACK but naw I really do love his design shit is TUFF
Shiro got the fresh cut he made sure he looking fresh
There's gotta be an alternate time line where he wins or achieves his goals In a positive way right.
Right
That's archer from fate extra
@@maiadraconica6488That Archer's soul got overused and crumbled into dust in Last Encore.
Last episode comes to mind
UBW the anime ending had a manuscript where it heavily implied Shirou made it (and surpassed) where Emiya gave up,
without selling his soul to the world.
the shirou from ubw/fate goes to work in clock tower so that means any ending he eventually passed his archer self so its safe to assume he is
I havn't gotten to the Seraph chapter in FGO but I have seen the manga up to it's last update and I've always found so interesting they pair Ishtar/Rin and EMIYA Alter as they go through things and discover truths about what's going on. They both at least some inkling that their familiar and might have even know each other in the past and even haughty Ishtar getting moody and emotional like there's something she could have done differently to change the path EMIYA went down to make this version of him. Not to mention Ishtar supposed to be function as a guardian/enforcer put in place by B.B. like Rin would have been to Sakura as the Big Sister had things turned out differently.
That's a little too much pressure to put on Rin. I honestly don't see what she could've done to deter Shirou
He pretty much ghost rider punisher but not as evil
All Shirou propers/alters did end up having some saviour complex in the end. Imagine if a version of him became the Grand Saber that swung a projected Excalibur against the white titan. Every time he swings it he dies, but Avalon ressurects him so he swings it again. Again and again until he breaks both mentally and spiritually, not knowing about anything else but to project and swing the sword over and over again, until the white titan finally dies. Shirou reaches heavens feel on his final swing and materialises himself into the real Excalibur (sheathed in avalon), which eventually gets passed down to King Arthur. And thus the cycle begins. Over and over again....
Turned out, Grand Saber was just the ideals we adopted along the way ;)
Edit: If true I wish this would be Shirou from the Fate route. Emiya completed his duty as a counter gaurdian after what seemed to be an eternity of protecting pan human history. By materialising into Excalibur not only could Emiya be there and protect Artoria over and over again until the end of the universe, but also by reaching true magic allowed his soul to access Avalon and reunite with Saber at the end of the Fate route. This could also make Saber letting go of excaliber and meeting "Shirou" again poetic. Or somehow tie back into why Avalon gave immortality and invincibility, because it was Fate Shirou's Will to protect her and love her at all cost no matter what.
...that's so Fate.
Fgo need to hired you
This is a really cool idea, though I feel like certain details of LB6 would contradict this theory.
Theory is nice ❤
You could make him the sword itself? Some possibilities there.
From what I've seen, in trying to stop Kiara Sessyoin's cult, he committed numerous atrocities against the cult members, ultimately allowing him to reach, and subjugate, Kiara herself. In doing so however, he had violated so many taboos that he'd lost sight of what he'd originally set out to do, to be a Hero of Justice, and in the process, lost his way.
Least, that seems to be the official lore. Far as I can see, he's also still considered a Counter Guardian, so perhaps this is a version of EMIYA that was deployed by the Counter Force to stop the threat that Kiara posed to the world and, while he succeeded, this corrupted his Spirit Origin to such a degree that it resulted in the Alter that we now have.
His outfit before he became alter was badass!
This video is great as always! I always enjoy watching you break down the Fate series which keeps me digging more down the type-moon rabbit hole for more lore and content.
Emiya Alter is such a fascinating character, and I'm glad the FGO manga series is exploring his ideals and background within the context of the Extra series and SERAPH interlude.
However, your video clearly summarized the long theory I was thinking about for a long time about Emiya Alter's existence and how he came to be, and now that I am about to watch the Heaven Feels movie despite the mini spoilers, the events that unfold in that route has convinced a lot that Alter's story possibly stared in one of Shirou's bad end sequence which not gonna lie got me for a loop, but it's a theory so we'll how it goes from there.
as someone who studied japanese culture and the language, i noticed a lot of the design inspirations you brought up in this video when he was first released in JP. i've always been fond of his design and think its one of the best in the entire series, despite being kinda hard to look at because its my boy Shirou (never catches a fucking break bro). its an absolute shame that NA censored him. good video!
Detroit Emiya over here.
So fun fact his material has him talk about Taiga/Jaguar Warrior and mention a child.
Please elaborate on what happened to our Favorite Fuji-nee.
@@bimoprasetyo6862from what I learned, Taiga later became part of Kiara's cult and she was also pregnant at that time, and what happened with her next...I leave that to your guess
@@reijiokada3295
Is there like an Official Source
Or is it from a Misinterpreted Japanese Translation,
Because some say it's
Taigas & Issei(the Child) that Joins Kiara's Cult,
But the fandom just like the Pregnant Fuji-nee idea better ,
Probably because She barely mentioned
Right after Shirou Begins his Journey.
@@bimoprasetyo6862 It was vaguely mentioned in his Material Book. Sadly, his background is still a big mystery and there isn't much info about him, nor what harm he did to to Taiga and her child. All we have is this little line for Jaguar Warrior/Taiga to speculate, which implies he did something to them, but doesn't properly explain what
"…You...., and your child-"
But from the missing pieces we gathered, it definitely is something related to Kiara, and maybe killing (?) Taiga was the final nail in the coffin which sets him down to become Emiya Alter in this timeline. Which makes sense if this version of Emiya is really the byproduct of Mind of Steel ending
@@reijiokada3295
I wanted Fuji-nee to be MORE Involved
In a Main Plot but This is just Too Cruel,
Poor Demiya 😢
That unlimited lost works is crazy
7:45 wait is that real? I didn't noticed that if it was, why do i lose the good parts dammit
Unlimited... *LOST* works
Reading the manga seeing taiga dying to shirou broke me honestly.
Well this is interesting considering the latest FGO Seraph chapter.
My man, this, keep doing this. Always a great vid when you upload.
Speaking of alternate routes and how things could turn out differently. I’ve always been curious how fate/zero would’ve impacted the stay night series if Tokiomi would’ve chosen to keep Sakura instead of Rin.
@8:32 The 3 bladed weird-looking dagger sword is called a phurba/kila. It's used in Tantric practices in Tantric Buddhism and Tantric paths of Hinduism.
As I was watching this I got an ad from fate grand order which I was playing before watching this video
Alter Emiya kinda counts as a Gyaru no?
Technically, yeah.
Same with og emiya 😅
I hate that you typed that sentence so much but you're not wrong
glad to finally know more about Emiya Alter, hes so badass n mysterious
You made a lot of interesting good points but once a song about your video on shiro's full potential you're basically saying if it was all in one timeline which would be awesome but the question what if everyone got what they wanted and all ended in a good way like all the outcomes came to one what happened then in the future up this one timeline
Almiya(Alter Emiya of my Au): " What an good vídeo for My Canon Self..." *He Grabs an Vodka and start to drink up , while he drink It, (Also an thing this Almiya Is an "ghost" that IS conected To Counter guardian Emiya, Just some can see him) Emiya started To get nauseous Because both are conected*
Emiya: "Ugh....." *Mr.Emiya As fainted again*
Thanks for this.
A great video, I thought of the kintsugi refence, but not the philosophy behind it.
when someone got so obsessed to the idea of hero of justice and at the same time end up killing a lot of people. It also show that kiritsugu is not a father material.
His descripition refer to him as living corpse and use two pistols, Bro thinks he's Beyond the Grave
Once you go black, you become a god I should know I was born in it
Man emiya literally just can't catch a break
“Jokes aside, This is no black mann”
The first time I ever saw Emiya Alter(first release in jp before NA even got grand order) I thought he was "Mind of Steel" Shirou or Super hero ending Shirou.
Nah he dead look like a African American or carribean man in the alternate versions 😂😂😂
This is an interesting video and theory
Emiya has to save Sakura… so you could call it… FATE
Emiya Alter gold lines are similar to Goetia in Solomon's body.
It's an Emiya from when the Holy Grail War was held in Detroit. Simple
Now if they released that Pre-EMIYA Alter as another Emiya Servant that would be great.
1:34 I think that Heaven's feel just shows that if Shiro gives up his ideals, his ending will be worse. So, I do think that the normal ending makes sense and shows a deeper meaning.
Y'all remember the difficulty levels in that South Park game? The darker you are, the harder the game
Naw i was mad af when they censored emiya in the west but what pissed me off was how okay majority of the fan base in the west is still ok with the lolis wearing g-strings Jack, Wu, and Draco. But still hope one day they can make another variant of emiya-alter with better animations or give us both him and kiritsugu suit and tie costumes.
You just gotta start looking at different spots then cause so many people are mad that Jack doesn't have pants and keep them in Ascension 1, full grown Wu only being a swimsuit Varient also annoys people. Just cause you didn't see it doesn't mean other people weren't annoyed/complaining about it.
@@coldfrost3
They weren't annoyed enough to get the company to change them. But they bend the knee at Demiya?
@@espurrseyes42 i don't know how to explain how much simpler asking for recolor is compared to a whole new redesign. Especially since Arcade was able to get Jack with pants but the GO wasn't. If not forced to by a governmental body most companies aren't gonna just change finished character designs.
@@coldfrost3
You say that like it's hard to color parts of Jack's skin black so it looks like she's wearing body mesh under her usual attire. Something that I'm pretty sure "fans" have done already and that a massive company could've done. Just as easier as bleaching Demiya. With the added fact of not messing with her established lore unilke Demiya, who has plot reasons for why he looks like he does, literally black skin and all.
I can understand Jack and Draco, but why Wu? I feel her outfit and overall demeanor doesn't compare in exposure to those two
I've just reaized that most of the time when I watch your videos I'm playing Minecraft
What makes this shirou even more sad is that now we know that he had to kill taiga
13:35 wait so saving Sakura is kinda like his Cannon Event?
I think not killing his first lay is his Cannon event
Can’t have shit if your last name is EMIYA
Lets be real emiya just wanted a clean cut
Imagine a fate battle royal game like Naraka bladepoint for the holy grail🔥
I wonder what the legendary shirou emiya would be like, y'know the one from the future of fate
There's an implication that that same Shirou you're referencing is actually the vessel for Muramasa's Spirit Origin.
I mean like Emiya as a full on heroic spirit with a heroic myth and stuff
My G got his cut and literally cut off his own identity (like literally)
Okay cool but why does my phone start blasting All Eyez On Me every time I open his profile?
Attempt 8 of asking you to a video on white wolf's world of darkness.
What do you think would happen had Illya summoned Emiya?
Sorry for OOT
What's the best for using/wasting apple?
Nerofest or This Summer Event (box material thing)
Ok
Man freaking hate censoring
Where can i find the translated fate game?
I think fgo made the backstory of emiya alter becouse you complent about it in your videos
So, the movie featured only the good ending?
And, these are story of the rest??
Wait, can someone tell me what are the good, true or bad ending of FSN
When you're not sure if you're being conceited thinking your comment is the one being mentioned x.x'
It WAS yours bro dw. I usually put them on screen but it was hard to incorporate without disrupting the flow of the video. My apologies
@@TsiahIV All good, I was hearing the vid and I was like...yeah was this me lol. Glad you liked what I had to say. Love the vids. HF has always been my favorite route. I was super excited when they made the movies, even though I think they could have done a better job. My biggest complaints were the rain scene, not focusing on the significance, and the Nine Lives blade works or how they didn't articulate how using projection was like blowing up his brain.
Probably a stretch, it's funny that there would be an Alter variant of EMIYA in your analysis that would be a result of Heaven's Feel; which was the first exposure we, as reader's, had to Alter's because of the shadow. Alter Berserker, Alter Saber, and quite possibly Alter EMIYA.
hay tsiah is illya always need to die or she can survive
Can anyone tell me from which manga and what chapter is Emiya alter's story from?
What mangais the one with alter Emiya?
This theory is crack but he is right
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I'm requesting a Don't Sleep on Lu Bu lmao
@@changboe8216 i see.. i wish you luck
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You really need to get rid of that pfp, and replace it with Emiya's back symbol