Love how he's out here telling tall women to stop overlooking short men when in my experience as a tall women, it’s the men around my height and shorter who have a problem with my height, not me with theirs. I don't care about the height of my partner, but more men then I can count have started making demands regarding whether I'm "allowed" to wear heels once they learned I'm tall, or just stopped talking to me period.
Exactly. I'm almost 6 feet and had men tell me to my face "You're beautiful but too tall". Us ladies at least wouldn't tell a guy to his face that he's too short. I've dated amazing shorter men but some of them are so insecure I shan't.
Exactly… i have started to mention my height to men during our first conversation because it just somehow becomes a major issue with men shorter than me🤦🏻♀️
Same with making more money or having a higher degree. I dated a man with a lower degree than myself once, and he told me to quit my job because he made enough money for us both.
Not to be crude, but it really makes me chuckle they don't ever think about the fact that the more tall a woman is than them, the easier they can have boobs in their face, lol. You'd think straight guys would love that. I mean, my boyfriend does, he's noticeably shorter than me and finds it hot. I would if I found bodies attractive, as I'm pansexual, but I'm on the ace spectrum, so I like to think that makes me unbiased? Maybe?
@@catlover2223 it's crazy when some guys think like this that there money is going to be enough to live on but if you take that deal and let a guy support you now your just using him for his money so you can't really win either way here. What's worse is they know what there doing they just think its all a joke they can't make up there minds what they want from a woman but they feel entitied to one at the same time. It makes no sense at all they can't have it both ways. You either support a woman or you don't there's no in between. That's why I never understood men either they don't want to support a woman but at the same time they get mad if a woman decides to support herself. So its better just to support yourself in the end because nobody else is going to do that for you.
Not only does Roosh demean women into sex objects/baby machines/domestic robots, he also assumes all men are as shallow and soulless as he is. I would pity him if he hadn’t done so much damage, both personally and by spreading this vile mindset.
Turn around and have a look. Is it Roosh who objectified women? Or is it women who objectify themselves craving for male attention? No it is not Roosh who objectified women. It is women doing their best to objectify themselves. Here this girl Rachel was telling us how Roosh V objectified women all while she is all dolled-up and showing cleavage. LOL! The irony!
I mean women demean themselves into sex objects. Do you see the clothes women buy and wear? Is it their intellect they are trying to display? All men have the same base instincts no matter how intelligent or honorable don’t fool yourself, we just have different opportunities. Most of the “best” men would fuck like crazy including married women, they’d be sex fiends, etc the opportunity simply never arises.
"Don't go for the seemingly attractive man with lots of beautiful women around him" *deliberately takes pictures with attractive women to try and seem more interesting to other women*
The person who is “less likely to find another women” is not “less likely to cheat.” If he is unable to get women that means he could possibly be just desperate to get any women. So if he gets ANY chance with ANY women, even while he is dating you, would grab that “opportunity” and just go for it. And then he would rationalise it by saying that well the girl that i am dating also has had a lot of relations with men in the past… i should too get to “explore” even if it is through cheating. That person would also possibly use all the tricks in the manipulation manual to keep you with him. Not because he wants you but because he isn’t sure if he will ever get anyone ever again. Major Red Flag 🚩 🚩 🚩 🚩
So true! My ex was a serial cheat and some of the people he cheated with were desperation options to him (his words). Women he had openly bad mouthed in the past to his friends. Then when he had an opportunity to sleep with them, he did. He used the excuse of “well you know I don’t really fancy X because I’ve always said she is fat. I slept with her because I was drunk and she tried it on with me”. BTW this man thought UK 10/ US 6 was “fat”. These people are truly pathetic. He had no respect for other human beings, it’s disgusting.
I fall I to that camp of not being able to get over my anxiety that makes me trip myself up in front of females I find attractive. And hence their beauty intimidates me. And I am I'm at with that as if I play it out in my head, I really don't want or fear the physical act of love. So I am best where I am not entitled and wasting a females time. But I know men who fit that photo you described. Don't understand it, why would you want to lie to another you are committed to? That makes no sense, and if I ask them what would happen if she did the same, they are irrate and would want her punished.
You don't get it, do you? That is the point of Roosh V. All the way since the very beginning. He proved his points 100%. But you just can't get it, you refuse to see the reality.
“Oh, these poor men who are controlled by their penises! They have it so hard!” That hilarious accidental double entendre was far more beneficial to society than anything Roosh V can even attempt
Spot on regarding what you said about abusers. Incel-type men often have the misconception that women actively seek out men who treat them badly and start serious relationships with them, and therefore "deserve" to be abused because they made that conscious choice. WRONG. The majority of abusive situations DO start with guys who treat you incredibly nicely and then begin slowly, almost unnoticeably changing their attitude until the relationship becomes toxic. So if anything, we're "guilty" of falling for men who show us more care and love than the average man might. It's the other way round. This is why we are often wary of "nice guys" as we get older. And yes, even the initial argument that women only like bad boys only illustrates that there is an abundance of bad boys around.
also, a lot of the time these types of men use the phrase "Bad boys" to just mean strong men who give no fucks? Like a 'bad boy' is someone can be a man who gets told all of their misogynistic shit and goes "fuck off' and leaves the room- Like, sure, they might also mean abusive and terrible partners, but they could easily mean men who don't give incels the time of day. It's a coin toss if they men "Men who are bad for women" or "Men who are bad for my ego"
Nuh nonsense. The most respect you get from women is when you treat them like crap and then also show you got nice shades. It works so much better than constant niceness
@@keylanoslokj1806 I love how you have women telling you exactly what they don‘t want and decide to not listen but rather have your own dumb assumptions lol
@@stellaw3682 they don't know what they want mate. They are really sad and absurd creatures. Ask any husband ever. Same story "i give her everything and she still complain". Even their kids turn to them and red pill them "no matter what you do dad, you can't ever make her happy." It is what it is mate
@@keylanoslokj1806 or the husbands just don‘t put in any work - but think they do everything, so of course the wife would be in a bad mood and complain. Equal efforts.
Best way to explain what feminism is all about: “It doesn’t matter how you choose to live your life-as long as it’s YOUR choice.” Our goal is create a society in which anyone can live the life they desire. While I’m not surprised that people actually believe the BS in this book, I still can’t wrap my brain around how they do.
The only problem is that the term "feminism" makes people think of the loud minority of cringey, toxic, stupid "feminists". This picture has also been inflated by the Alt-Right to make it seem that all feminists are insane and toxic.
No it's not, when women chose to live a traditional lifestyle they get treated like stupid traitors, I know a few who have had this treatment, completely ostracized from their previous circle of friends. A traditional lifestyle or converted to true christianity is a no-no. It's the same experience for black people who turn conservative, they get called r uncle tom and house n!66er.
Interesting, what if I said I want to have sex with children would you still say " It doesn't matter as long as it's your choice "? The way that women are choosing to live their lives ( promiscuous, single mothers) is affecting our society and making it degenerate. The same way that me having sex with children would also harm society.
@@BudSilverado420 Oh great, now not only being gay is apparently the same as pedophilia, but also feminism is like pedophilia - apparently. Please explain how being "promiscuous" or a single mother harms society in any way, shape or form. Also, have you maybe considered that being a single mother is not a choice for many women? Their partner just leaves them once the baby is there and they´re stuck being a single mother. How is that their choice?
Don't rush to settle down with someone you have lukewarm feelings for, or "any man that will have you" 🤮I've seen it 1000 times, and if I had done it myself, I wouldn't be living freely as my authentic, sapphic self. Of course, not everyone is going to have the same realization I did, but realize this: it's better to be alone than to be with someone totally mediocre, who isn't physically or emotionally attractive to you and whose values aren't compatible with yours ♥️
Did it and it's also demeaning towards them, if they genuinely like you and you only do it out of pity or not being genuine it's only ends in heartbreak for them.. I did it to be nice not realizing I did more harm towards their self esteem .
@@joshridinger3407 The average person still has unique qualities about them, because an average is really just commonalities, rather than saying every person is exactly the same. What they are saying, and what you are being obtuse about, is that you shouldn't settle for someone with, let's say, 50% compatibility with you. Most people have around that much with you, but it's a terrible basis for a relationship. A relationship should have more than average compatibility, not necessarily above average members. If the average person never entered a relationship, it would be silly, because there are so many other average people out there, and even unusual people who would be a good match for them, since the average person is also monogamous and wants a relationship. Of course, these things aren't true for everyone, and what is "average" is entirely subject to the culture and people around you, but I'm gonna assume you're of a Western culture, as am I. And of course, the average person isn't a real person, but the idea of one. Everyone is weird in their own different way, even if they don't show it.
@@beththedarkmage3359 nobody used the term 'average', they used the term 'mediocrity', that is, a person of low relative value, unworthy of love. but of course, most people are mediocre (including most people who think they're not); they may be unworthy of having high value partners, but they can take some comfort in each other. and for many (not all), that is in fact better than no relationship at all.
Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson etc. They are treated as GODS. They have tons of followers, and they are being milked out of their money (and minds..) It really is like a virus: we are losing the tiny bit of evolution we managed to make. Men and boys would rather choose these monsters than the truth, and peace. Liars, manipulators, sickos etc. They're all winning instead of the right ones.
@@imperatordei6615 Andrew Tate isn't really able to debate people. He can only shout, and use swear words. And he isn't even able to listen to another person.
Don’t know why a woman should give their number to either of the 2 guys … not the player or the awkward guy dripping in sweat you’ve not attraction too.. both are recipes for disaster. Some of the best romances have stemmed from a relationship that was originally a friendship but if you think about it there was a certain level of attraction from the start… put it this way you weren’t repulsed by them.
@@visaman Ditch the fedora and just _talk_ to women like a normal person. If a dude comes up to me and feeds me a line like yours, that's an immediate red flag.
this book should be called "How to blame the woman for everything, so you could avoid being held responsible for your own actions or grow as a person"...
so i'm a passive woman who wouldn't mind being a homemaker, i never liked the idea of dating or casual sex. i've met men like roosh and i would never. i'm not judging people who like casual hook-ups but i don't think i would be compatible with someone like that. obviously this is not the only thing that's wrong with roosh but i would imagine that it is an insecurity for him. he can pretend to be "a masculine man" but he can't take back his past so he has to downplay it and justify it.
@@visaman Demure almost exclusively is used to describe attractive women who subscribe to gender roles. Its usage really doesn't paint a good picture for those who support choice and non gendered language. Passive is completely fine and is even used medically, with mental illness, so I'm not really sure what your issue with the word is. I've never seen it used in a sexual context personally, unless someone is saying to a woman that she shouldn't fake orgasms and pretend to be having a good time when their partner is selfish, then I see them being described as too passive.
@@visaman I think 'submissive' is more likely to be associated with BDSM than 'passive' Edit: passive/submissive is also more descriptive of the relationship dynamic, while demure is more of a personality trait that the OP may not identify with. so I would also not suggest that as an alternative
"A man learns not to talk to women who have a closed demeanor" - oh if only that were true. Can you imagine how peaceful life would be if men like Roosh learned to just leave us alone?
Exactly! A woman simply existing in a public space is not an invitation. If a woman is quietly reading at a bus stop, or intent on her texting conversation, or listening to music through earbuds, or whatever, *she's not looking to be accosted.* I found Roosh's example of "Boring Bobby" harassing a woman at a cafe pretty funny. He doesn't seem to think that she's just there to enjoy her book, but instead, is actively inviting male attention. Ultimately "Eric"s approach is more appropriate because he's chatting up a woman at a club, a place where people go to hang out and dance and meet people. "Bobby" is just a creepo bothering a woman who's minding her own business.
The "Bad Boy" Archetype often gets a bad rep because it's kinda like 'Appreciating the aesthetic' more than genuinely liking a destructive, toxic person. The example I can think of is James Dean in "Rebel without a Cause' leather jacket, motorcycle, kinda on the outs of "civilized" (50's era sensibilities) society, but has a heart of gold. That's the part that a lot of people miss. He's loyal, caring, looks out for his community that's the appealing part aside from the general aesthetic itself. I don't know maybe I'm rambling here lol P.S. Not too late to call this " Rachel Owns Insecure Incel" part 2 lol
Exactly. The whole point of that aesthetic is that he's rough around the edges while having a good heart. Whereas the Nice Guy puts up a great front but is rotten to the core.
Same, I love tattoos and kinda alternative type misfit guys but the aesthetic and because they'll be less judgemental and likely have more in common with me than a preppy jock. I don't want that guy to be a jerk to me though, maybe a bad boy to polite society, but s3xy and fun with me.
There's something I'd like to add. Especially for the younger folks. If you feel like you're obligated to date and are desperate for help or clues because it all seems too strange, or absurd, while every other human being has it (or seems to) easy, calm down and don't panic. Having no interest in dating (or downright hating it) is perfectly normal. It may endure for long, even in the 50s. For life even. Do not try to emulate people like Roosh or Tate, even if somebody's pressuring you. For all we know it can all be an elaborate con. And even if it's not, people have different personalities and trying to act like you're a different one while you're struggling with your own self, can lead to serious damage to your health and to those around you. Take your time (all of it) to get to know yourself and what you like or don't, until you understand what you genuinely think about people, which are the ones you'd want in your life and then asking out for a date should become easier. And if you're bullied into becoming a Roosh, seek for help. Scream for it, if necessary. It doesn't mean you're less of a man or a woman.
I'm 36, in shape and try to keep up a nice appearance. I can promise you there has been no abrupt stop or decline in male interest, including from men in their early 20s to much older than me. Plus there are actual studies that show while men are attracted the most physically to women in early 20s, they still prefer to pursue women close to their own age for relationships, and who they message on dating apps. Only weird guys want some naive inexperienced younger woman specifically, and I'm ok with not interacting with those types. There's plenty of men in the sea.
Yeh, I think as you get older you only have less of those dudes that want to groom you really. But as Rachel said, sometimes it's nice to not have all the options available 😂
Keep coping, younger women are biologically more attractive than older women. And yes, men do like experienced women, for one night stands, we don’t marry those.
I've been trying so hard for years to get my novels finished and published. Then disgusting things like this guy has several "books" out? When there's nothing of substance? It's a woman abuser who needs to shave, spouting rubbish? They ask why I'm depressed. Then again, everything about "men" like him adds to my and I'm guessing many others' depression. Edit; BTW; Didn't a woman help create the world's first functioning computer? Like how a woman invented sci-fi? Like how a woman helped discover the pattern of human DNA? We've done quite a LOT for a load of silly frilly little things! Edit 2; Treat your partner, not as another choice, but how Gomez treats Morticia "Woo her. Make her feel like the most sublime creature on Earth!" (My fave one is "With you my love, every night is Halloween") Edit 3 : A lot of you have been so kind. Thank you. I Wish those of us who have at least SOMETHING to say even if it is in an odd way were able to do it rather than hateful wankers like this one. I'll do my best to get myself sorted and therefore my writing. X
I know it’s sad that a writer like you just wants to publish a nice book but can’t and a gross woman abuser can easily get his books out. I really hope you can get your book published.
@@cat_man5334 Thank you very much. My books are horror-ish but mostly metaphors about mental health and discrimination. Hence why they're taking so long (Also cos I'm not well) I'm trying to help in my individual way, this guy is...urgh.
Someone once pointed out that these Pick-up Artist types aren't interested in sex except as a thing to brag about to their (male)friends and that really recontextualizes a lot of what Roosh says.
i love when these people say "men are hunters and women stay at home!" like ok well why don't you go out and hunt a deer for me and then we'll talk. wait sorry i forgot you don't know how to hunt because this hasn't been true for thousands of years lol
Even funnier: There's increasing evidence that when our ancestors were still hunter-gatherers, strict gender roles for division of labor weren't really a thing. Able-bodied people tended to hunt, including women. Elders, pregnant women, children, and the injured/sick would forage more locally. The concept of a husband who works and a wife who stays home has never been typical throughout modern history either. Incels are just in love with the Leave It To Beaver fantasies of 1950s America, a lifestyle only available to relatively wealthy white people at a time when salaries were relatively high and cost of living was low (again, for white people).
Can you imagine being so insecure and in denial you write a book about how other people 'should' be insecure bc they're 'in denial'. God I'm so over the men. - signed respectfully, and regretfully, a man
Imagine identifying yourself as a man while being ashamed of being one because of the actions that one idiot has done just by having a platform to spread his own brand of mutually toxic stupidity. - signed bluntly, and proudly, a man.
@@c6rn6g2k1d The point is: it's NOT JUST ONE 1D10t !!! That is why this BS is so toxic and damaging. He had the b@lls to say this at least. If all the women started being this delusional and nasty, I'D also be ashamed AF to be one ( I already already associate with them due to how women are viewed and told to act: so....) If men dont denounce this or speak about it: you're part of the problem. JUST like I denounce other women when they are nasty.
i loved when he's like "you wanna do this to avoid cat ownership which is becoming the norm" I love cats and i would much rather never date again then get rid of my fur baby. No person is worth giving up my cat for. He has been with me through my worst and is honestly an angel. So he's hurting his arguement here.
Also with the Eric and Bobby example...why do you have to choose one of them? Just give your number to both. Because Eric might actually be tired of the playboy life and looking to settle down and start a family, while Bobby may be using his new-found status or promotion to get in the game and start picking up women or gathering sexual experience. Not saying that's very likely, but it could be. So yeah, I would go on a first date with Eric and Bobby, and see what they're about. Bad example.
I knew a guy who's been pretty nice. He got his first gf at around 17 or 18 and somehow, he became a complete asshole after they broke up and told me things like that it's unfair that I have slept with a friend of mine but never gave him a chance even though he's known me for longer... so I agree
I have been with my wife for over 14 years and married for almost half of it. She is not plump, not chubby but fat and has her head shaved and is the sexiest most beautiful person I have ever meet. And honestly I have never even thought anybody else ever being beautiful or sexy neither before nor after meeting her.
What actions? Living with your mom and making pizzas and praying? The dude is a literal hermit now, he renounced everything he said as a PUA and pulled all his books from publication. He has apologized and repented repeatedly and profusely for what he falsely taught other men. Will you only be happy when he is dead?
the fact that so many men work this hard to get someone else to do their daily menial tasks for them, rather than just doing these things themselves is absolutely mindblowing (and such a testament to these creep’s entitled desire for power and control)
This is meant for housewives. A house wife is a house wife so the man can focus on earning money. A woman’s goal should be to raise a family and to be a housewife. Instead feminism has created two employees for the price of one.
@@runTellDat99 Like, males have been forcing women to work either for pennies or for free for millenia, boo. Feminists wanted women to earn as much as males, boo. Not their problems that them males in power decided to pay other males less instead of paying women more, boo.
My parents met when my mom was already in her 30's. My dad is four years younger. They're still happily married and have a wonderful relationship. Also, dear Roosh, if you absolutely refuse to do any cleaning, just hire someone. There are wonderful, dedicated housekeepers and you should be rich enough, right? Just make sure to keep your hands to yourself.
And that's why you grew up a complete defect by a 30 year old woman who's womb and egg was compromised. My mother was also in her 30s and I was born autistic.
man-splaining is a thing. my friend and i had just finished a project. all done. finished. her husband comes home and starts telling us how to do the project. so insulting!
my teenaged son has recently picked that habit up.. learned it from his father. They will also both not listen to my suggestions but when they hear the same suggestion or advice from a man they are suddenly ready and willing to listen and appreciate the advice. When I say something the are annoyed I criticized them and I’m just nitpicking, it’s like they can’t deal with a woman who may have a good idea they didn’t think of.
Assuming that your friend's husband somehow knew you two were doing a project, knew you two completed the project, and then proceeded to nitpick by telling you how he would have done it, then yes I'd agree that would certainly be insulting. But then again, I'm assuming that's how it happened.
@@c6rn6g2k1d why tf would he feel challenged by his wife and her friend doing a project together???? it's not a competition, unless he views his wife as inferior as less than him; because that's how most men view women
Be carerful ladies, if you have your own resources and listen to people telling you to go after your goals you might end up *checks notes* with a partner you want. The horror!
Can confirm that as a strong, feminist woman, my masculine boyfriend has never been intimidated by my "masculine traits" in our seven year relationship.
That's me and my partner! He's the most macho ish man I've been with and I'm fairly masculine but he's the sweetest person I've ever known, never weird about me being better with power tools than him or something lol
It is so scary that he could have made money from those books. Thinking that he ruined sex for that woman isn't a flex like he thinks, it is just cruel! Your story about being a second, third choice made me feel so sad for your sake. Especially after you got so excited for that first date. I think that your date was feeling a bit insecure and in some weird way was hoping that you would try to fight to be his first option. I have to admit, I did this when I was a teen. It is really sad that people still think that would work. I've been single for a few years now, while I might feel a bit lonely sometimes, I do feel content most of the time. Got my fluffy queen, my games and my hobbies. Turns out being single was what I needed to grow as a person!
IIRC that exact thing is a PUA tactic, to make the woman try to be the best date of your night. He probably didn’t have another one, and now he has none :(
It's called "spinning plates," named after the novelty acts appearing on the old Ed Sullivan Show, in 1948. It means dating several women at the same time, giving equal attention to each one. It is not an easy task, I was doing two, I mean dating two women, and it nearly drove me to bankruptcy.
honestly I have seen these same talking points on incel cringe compilations. I dont know did he come up with them him self and they are like some incel hive mind, or did he actually proceed to copy paste some directly from reddit.
It's usually men saying not all men (and then women like me have to explain that we aren't saying 'all men') but in this case it's the opposite. We have to tell Rooch (and men like Roosh) that no Not all men either view women as 'orgasm or love'. Not all men 'lose interest' in women that are 'easy'. Not all men only like feminine women. Not all men have a 'fun stage'. Not all men want to be the one to ask their partner on a date. etc etc
"If a woman witholds sex from me for more than a few days, I will investigate her sexual history" YOU LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT A WOMAN WHO WANTS A "QUALITY" MAN SHOULD WITHOLD SEX FOR WEEKS
I can tell you from firsthand experience that “men don’t want female friendships if they can’t eventually hit” is complete bs. 2 of the guys I was interested in decided it wouldn’t work out and asked if I wanted to keep being friends, and we’re still in contact to this day. There were 2 other guys who I did the same to, and I’m still in contact with them as well. One of my aroace friends has a few guys she’s had to let down that she still hangs out with. I’m convinced this guy doesn’t have a single emotionally fulfilling relationship in his life, whether it’s platonic or romantic. (Edited for clarification)
This man is so delusional. My boyfriend and I are together for 5 years now and he has always been respectful, loving and an amazing partner, and he came with way more qualities than just 3 btw 😂 we also grew together we helped each other become the version we always wanted to be. He helped me to be more sensitive, empathetic and calm. I helped him become more confident and outspoken. He loves me for who I am with all my flaws and I do too. Good men are out there that don’t reduce you to an object! Keep your standards high only then a good men comes your way, I had awful partners before him until I stood up for myself saw my own worth, he came around and I‘ve never been happier.
I can absolutely relate to being "the second option". I know a guy whom I though was very interesting, and fun to be around and talk to. I was not sure at all that I wanted to go anywhere romantic with him, although he was very attractive and he had suggested that we hook up on previous occasions. So everything was great untill I once went out with a good friend of mine and started telling her about said dude. And she stopped me mid-sentence and said - "He said and did the same things with me, and litterally went out with me the same night he went out with you. When I turned him down, he must have gone on to have drinks with you, and invite you to hook up." When I compared notes with my friend, it was obvious he was just looking for someone to sleep with that night and was burning through options. I am incredibly grateful to her for her honesty. She's an amazing frined. And he is just a duche!
Me - a Jewish woman with EXTREMELY thick hair hears the "I don't buy the its too hot" SIR MY HAIR IS LITERALLY HEAVY. LIKE I HAVE TO THROW MY HAIR UP IN A MESSY BUN TO GET IT OFF MY NECK WHAT-
According to our author, I'm well past my expiration date. Regardless of this fact, I've spent the last several years single (for the first time in my life,) and I've come to wonder why I've given so much priority to romantic relationships. I don't think I'm very good at them & when I stopped and took off the pressure, I realized that for now I'm not interested. If and when that changes, that will be fine too. I hope if you are reading this that you are safe and sound 💜
"women expire at 30." by what logic? "they cant get pregnant anymore." untrue, and also some people dont even want kids. "I want kids!" well go be with someone who also wants kids. "no! I want YOU to have kids with ME before youre 30."
I have 2 cats, am taking antidepressants, AND i have a perfect relationship with someone who i can confidently say that i fell in love with permanently, someone treats me with love and respect, someone who has never failed my trust. So it is possible too roosh, surprise, people's "fates" are different xd
As an amab, I am personally offended by how this man acts like men are all gods and women should just worship them. The patriarchy is too strong within him.
I had to correct a common misconception about feminism in my class.😓 Feminism is not women attacking men. Feminism is women fighting for equal rights. THAT'S LITERALLY IT. I know there are women who take it too far and are convinced that feminism means tearing down men. (Which most feminists don't agree with anyway) and that kind of behaviour fuels men's hate for feminists because of the bad representation by a select few backwards-thinking women. Also, there are no "extreme feminists". When people say "extreme feminists", they really mean women who aren't really feminists and are actually just poisoning the good cause by taking almost every interaction with a man as an attack on women. Let me be clear; I AND THE MAJORITY OF WOMEN DO NOT AGREE WITH THOSE BEHAVIOURS AND WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU DID NOT RIDICULE WOMEN BASED ON THE COMMENTS AND MISCONCEPTIONS OF A FEW WOMEN WHO ARE NOT REALLY FEMINISTS. Thankyou. (Sorry for the caps, not shouting, just thought that last bit needed emphasise)
I had a "fun" conversation with a conservative friend over feminism a few years back in which she completely misconstrued the concept of feminism and swore that feminism had nothing at all to do with her freedom to be a single woman with a career and and a voter (for Trump...twice).
So I'm asexual - in the sense that I can't experience attraction. Nearly 34 years old now and I still don't even know what attraction feels like. I found a "Bobby" a guy I could tell was moderate in looks, rather awkward in conversation but stable in like the rest of his life. Boring Bobby turned out perfect for me though because we shared a love of gaming and had good chemistry (outside of attraction of course) SO "boring bobby" worked out for me. That does NOT mean boring Bobby would work out for most women. In fact I didn't even meet my Bobby (that's not his real name btw) until I was nearly 30 so I certainly wasn't settling as this idiot implies I should have. If I HAD settled early on I would've been married as a teen and in a much worse place if that man's FB is any indication. In other words this dude's advice is just complete wrong. Boring Bobby still needed more to him that just being stable, if we hadn't loved to game and talk about shared interests I would have stopped dating my Bobby long ago.
@@cuppachar201 No, he's hetero. Though who he is attracted to seems more like he's demi since he doesn't find most people attractive without getting to know them first.
@@W-I463 No. Asexuality is actually the most studied of all the disparate sexualities so it should be easy for a certified psychologist to diagnose you.
@@visaman You sure they're not a logical vulcan and a curious catgirl? You sure there isn't a pretty, pretty princess occasionally displacing one of them and taking over that shoulder? What if they have orange-blue or green-magenta morality? Do you still call them angel/devil?
@@Sableagle I met an angel on my cruise to Alaska, she is a top Polka musician. Her name is Mollie B, and she danced a Waltz with me. Her videos are on RUclips.
Men who are less likely to cheat on you can still betray your trust in other ways. I am currently dealing with ending a 6+ year relationship where this person kept lying to me about his finances, kept wasting money and getting into credit card debt. I told myself for so long that it was something we could work through since he would never cheat on me but not only was I settling for someone who is SO FAR beneath me, I was constantly being lied to by this person.
Not even 2 minutes in, and OF COURSE Roosh went from "let me show you how I assault women" to "I'm a changed man and I deserve a virgin wife." 🙄 "We're all doomed after 30." I guess I'm dust by now :( No one told me I was supposed to wither away. ETA: Of course you have to display a certain set of characteristics to be worthy of love. 🙄
I know he wants a virgin wife In a word where he teaches men to assault and “pump and dump” women. It’s like says make sure you have sex with as many women as you can but get a virgin wife.
@@FeministCatLadySpinsterFor a woman, it's when the first grey hair is showing, the first wrinkle, her face "falls," then menopause. Don't hate me, but some men say that's when her sexual marketplace value goes down. For men, it doesn't really happen until he hits 80, this is why Sean Connery is often used as an example of a man who was virile until the end. One could say the same thing for Cary Grant. But, let's look at Olivia Newton-John, she was battling breast cancer for 15 years, yet, she still looked good, to these eyes anyways. I really don't like the term myself, as I have always been attracted to mature women. I like crows feet on women, it shows that they have lived a long and interesting life.
I can't imagine being with someone simply because I find them tolerable. It would eventually become intolerable knowing how much better it could be. I'm so glad I refused to compromise on my personal values, wants, and needs in a partner, even if it meant I stayed single for a long time. I eventually found someone who was truly right for me. And even if I didn't, I'd be so much happier alone than in a dreadful situation like that. It's also completely gross how he acts like a woman's life only has value if she gets married and has children. You can see it in the way he talks about how women over 30 should just marry ASAP. There's more to life than that, Roosh. Not everyone wants to have kids, let alone settle for the first person who gives them attention.
The snarky, sarcastic reading with the classical music in the background is absolutely sending me. Thank you for putting yourself through this and reading all of this absolute trash for our edu-tainment, Rachel! :'D
I'm 58 years old and overweight by 35lbs. Post menopausal and not interested in dating and even while wearing a mask I still get men of all ages who work in retail bending over backwards to help me out. I have beautiful eyes and virtually no wrinkles. I choose to be alone and happy with my decision because I'm done raising my sons and don't want a man child to take care of. Even if I start dating again in the future I would never have a live in partner. I like my solit6too much. Studies show women without a live on partner live longer and happier lives Men without a live in partner live shorter and unhappy lives. Draw what conclusions you would like
"Studies show women without a live on partner live longer and happier lives" This is so true! I mean academic research says it all but also anecdotal evidence. My grandpa died early into my grandmother's marriage with him and she stayed unmarried for decades after that. While it may have been due to unresolved grief, she didn't seem to unhappy. Was always eager to learn and educate herself, had a bunch of friends (and the occasional casual relationship), visited family abroad and went for solo vacations. I didn't have the best relationship with her but the way she consciously directed her life sounded amazing honestly. I am convinced that that would have went differently if she was married all of those years.
Hey, Rachel. I've been watching a lot of your videos recently, and I just wanted to say thank you for doing what you do. I struggle a lot with depression, but your voice is just so calming & your demeanor so friendly & welcoming that it helps me a lot to listen to your videos when I'm trying to get stuff done. So, just thank you & keep doing what you do
The reason they want women to be mothers is because mother’s love is assumed to be unconditional. There is no social demand that you love her back like you would your partner. Basically Roosh thinks women should love men unconditionally. So yeah. He’s a baby. Gross. Ladies, don’t date babies.
All I need in a woman is a connection. Once we start talking, if she's shy or bold, similar interests to me or polar opposite, short or tall, all of these I start to love about her after we connect from talking. I have found all sorts of women datable, once we start talking. Women who I didn't find attractive at first, as we talk and connect I start finding all sorts of things I then find attractive about them.
I loooove men who think they know women better than women. A person i was seeing did that a LOT, to the point where i told him "we're over now. i don't care what you do, I'm ok" and he responded with "you keep saying you're ok but i don't think you are". WHY DO SOME MEN THINK THEY KNOW US BETTER THAN OURSELVES? YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT. SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN.
Hey Rachel, there is another set of books I think you will find interesting to read and critique. They are "Fascinating Womanhood Vintage Edition" By: Helen Andelin and "Fascinating Womanhood For The Timeless Woman" By Dixie Andelin Forsyth.
Thank you so much for the affirmations throughout the video. For real, this has helped me process some real trauma. This assholes ideas did not come out of thin air, it's sadly pervasive in American culture and it hurts real people everyday.
I'm even more traumatized after finding out about guys like roosh..... He is BRAGGING about r4ping and traumating women forever. I'm scared of accidentally getting involved with a man in case he is one of the millions of Rooshs out there
I found myself initially attracted to my partner because she was such an individual, confident, independent, kind, empathetic and well educated person. Neither of us want kids, we're both childfree and shared similar views on the world. This dude's take is so disgusting. It just screams giant manbaby-abusive-manipulator who targets people who are vulnerable. My partner and I are going on 4 years now and it's been the best 4 years of my life. She's an amazing person, stands her ground, doesn't put up with crap and I'm proud she's done so much with her life.
Roosh :- "I don't care if my partner wants to go out and work and have a social life that I'm not involved in. Just as long as my dinners on the table when I get home from the pub."
I just can´t with guys that feel that women are just there to please them and they can pick. I am gay and not relation material, and very honest about that, but I will never treat people like they exist for my pleasure.
"Many men use platonic relationship as a strategy to get laid" Nah, it feels like he's just projecting his garbage behavior and attitudes towards other men in a silly attempt to convince people this is normal.
The "protection" part of this masculinity construct always makes me apoplectic because: 1) I'm only sexually harassed in public (by men) when I'm alone. Other men don't tend to sexually harass women who are with men or mixed-gender groups, so no male partner can "protect" me from this, since it only happens when they aren't there. And men, in general, don't protect anyone from this because they are either perpetrators or they don't police other men in public to put a stop to this conduct. and 2) I've been put in danger time and again by male partners and their un-controlled rage. So how can they protect me from themselves? And these partners were the very same who insisted that "protection" was something they could offer me. In fact, that they /did/ protect me from others by virtue of their presence. Which just hit as manipulative lies, since I felt the need to protect myself /from them/, by absenting myself. Men obsessed with "protecting" their families are, in my experience, the ones those families need to be protected from.
That isn't really masculinity nor the partners you've had are real men. That is a piss-poor attempt at trying to pass off parasitic narcissism as the general image of what manhood is, and those partners of yours are nothing more than mentally stunted children trying to pass off as men. Don't go and generalize an entire gender just because the community you've surrounded yourself happens to be one that is morally deficient.
Your first point brings up a memory from one of my visits to Saudi Arabia when my parents were still working there. My mom and I chose not to wear black robes on one of our outings to the city, and just after we walked in to a small shopping center without my dad, a small group of men pointed and jeered at us. The moment my dad walked in, they tucked tail and walked away. Freaking cowards.
Literally this whole thing reads like a compilation of reddit incel posts. "WAAAAH women dont want to be with me because I'm totally uninteresting! WAAAH women need to lower their standards! Women don't want to have mediocre sex with me! Women dont think I'm good looking! Why dont women want to wait on me hand and foot 😭😭😭" it's like the biggest out on himself. What a worm of a human being 🤣
I’m a cis woman, I believe I present pretty clearly as femme, but also I work in the trades (so I work with mostly men) and I am confident, outspoken, and I enjoy being that way, and working with my hands, and other “masculine” traits. I managed to somehow find a man who isn’t intimidated by me, or by how I made more than him (less now that I’m mostly home caring for our child- finally “put in my place” lolz)
27:11 as a man it annoys me when some men claim to speak on behalf of us all like we're all the same. Especially when they depict us all as being so simplistic we place all women into 1 of only 2 boxes ("Love" box and "Orgasm" box.) Eh?! What about women I don't fancy? I don't consciously put people in boxes when I meet them but if I were to do that with women I can think of way more than 2 boxes off the top of my head: Potential Sex Partner Potential Romantic Partner Potential Platonic Friend Potential Useful Aquaintance Potential Enemy Neutral/Meh And I have to label them as Potential X because first impressions don't tell one everything and thus impressions (and "boxes") can change.
As an animal nerd I wanted to add my two cents to his lion analogy.... Lioness' do all the hunting while male lions lay around all day, being lazy.... 🤦♀️
They are not being lazy tough... someone have to watch the pride territory or another male will walk in or hyenas, kill the children and mate the females. So acctually the Male lion is risking his life fighting other male lions and animals for the sake of the pride, to give the female a home, to be safe in. Youre right bout the hunting stuff tough.
i've only just heard of you a few weeks ago when your first Harrow Faire book review dropped. i can tell that you're very passionate about the things you talk about on your channel and you seem like such a wonderful person. i'm so glad i discovered you and look forward to continue seeing you success. 🥰🥰🥰
The reason Christianity massively thrives to this day was that King Ferdinand was not a beta like this guy and also not afraid to rule the kingdom together with a woman with strong (arguably stronger) character Queen Isabella.
I never understoood the predator/ prey allorgory with romance. If your a pretty she-antelope grazing in the savana, you wanna get away from the lion so you can mate with a prettty he-antelope. The lion would see you the same way i see a tuna sandwich
So, correct me if I'm wrong here, but the outtake of this entire thing is that a man will not love a woman at all. Like, never. All a man will love, according to Roosh, is the amount of effort he has put into that woman. The woman herself is irrelevant, what's relevant is the man's influence on the woman's life and the amount of control the man has on her.
I wonder how men like this guy would react to a woman lecturing them on how they should "settle for a woman that they aren't necessarily attracted to, but she'll be a good partner to you, instead of aiming for the hot and exciting woman"
As someone on the verge of dating someone with short blue hair I can attest that short hair is adorable. Second there's no "possessed by a monster between my legs thing" I mean yeah things can get tempting but it's important to learn self control. Third I think women who earn more than me or are stronger than me or even taller are still attractive. They can make up for what I lack and can make a relationship better. Like of I can't quite afford something I want or I don't have any gas money then having someone who will have my back is amazing and way less stressful than having to pay for everything myself. I mean that all within reason of course.
I really want to write a book to help incels with dating because it used to be a really supportive community of guys helping each other before things got to where they are now. Any opinions?
@@georgelarie I’m a bi woman and I loooove short hair on women. Well I like every length lmao And I think you should absolutely do that. Definitely find some therapists/psychologists who specialize in sexuality/dating to coordinate with so that you make sure youre using best practices when curating a bunch of advice! And be sure to talk to some women, especially those who work with domestic violence non profits. Talk to incels, normal teen boys with dating anxiety and older guys who have found a partner. Talk to everyone you get so you’re able to represent their perspectives and advocate for dating & sexual health in the best way possible! From what I’ve seen, a lotttt of dudes have toxic attitudes towards women & they refuse to listen to any woman, even professionals, when it comes to dating. So I welcome any effort by men to educate boys about dating, especially those who will include the voices/concerns of women 💕
The minimum for me is someone I can talk to, have fun with, and laugh together, being awkward is fine if we can relate and have fun in some different way than talking at first, I'm awkward af and don't have a lot of social skills to be honest and I've very introverted, so the second scenario would be hell to me, having a man come up to me, attractive or not, try to start a conversation with me, about a book I'm reading and then not be able to hold a conversation and be awkward about the situation, even though he started it, would immediately turn me off and make my anxiety shoot through the roof so I wouldn't give the number And for the first situation I wouldn't be found in a club to begin with so If I met mister first guy and we had a fun time talking even if there's another girl next to him vying for his attention I'd give him my number just to see if we could be friends lol
Man here: I am dating basically the perfect girl right now honestly, at least for me: 1) She loves art and poetry and photography, which is so hard to find when I was on dating apps 2) She is self sufficient in terms of finances 3) She is confident and outgoing (She asked me for our first kiss before I did, and she snuck a kiss on my chest when we were in public) She's a little on the plump side, but so much better than what I could have dreamed of. It's so rare to meet someone who is not only into you but also interested in what you like and basically checks off everything of what you want in a partner. Usually it's one or the other. One thing I am worried is that she loves her family very much, and I do not like my family at all. Even a little bit. I'm not sure whether she would want to date someone who basically hates his family, or whether she could understand. But the biggest issue is that she's Indian and Hindu, and my parents want a Chinese Christian (I'm Malaysian Chinese). I don't really care what they think, but it's making me dread if/when we make it official and I have to tell them at some point. And if anyone is asking why I don't leave my family, that's because Malaysia is not very kind to people who suffer from panic attacks. As much as I don't like my parents, they are the only ones who can get me a job where I don't get screamed at if I f**k up. At least that's my situation at this point.
I'm glad that you have someone who makes you happy. Being with people different from ones background is becoming more and more common. I'd imagine that your parents have friends with children who have dated/married people from other backgrounds. They may accept your relationship more easily than you expect.
I love reading all these real life love stories. There are no perfect people out there, but there are a few special ones we find and just click with. I’m so happy for you 2 that you found each other. I’m sorry that you’re in the position of being dependent upon family you don’t like, I hope you can work to change that if possible. You might end up really loving her family. I’m not close to any of my cousins, but my husband has a bunch of cousins and I’ve gotten to like many of them, it’s actually really fun to be the “in law” cousin. It’s a different perspective on the family. Anyway, I wish you the best. Love rules.
I love how he shows us two extremes - either a super handsome, great with women, flirtatious guy or socially awkward creep with poor hygene. There are no middles here. I wonder who he thinks he is in that scenario?
And if anyone says you two can't be a cute couple due to height just say you're Lady Dimitrescu - tall, charismatic and beautiful. And he's the luckiest gamer in the fandom.
Nah, I feel in love with my wife who I saw take a shot of alcohol, gave a Hoorah that would make a Marine proud, and jump up on the table, then promptly falling off. She doesn’t drink often and was dared on this lil moment. It is okay to be shy but I have always liked people who match my energy and as a very outgoing and loud person, I need someone to be like me in that way. She is my dream girl and I love her more than life itself.
Ikr? My paternal grandmother was forced into marriage at 15 with a 31 yo man that she most definitely did not want. My maternal grandfather put a mirror in my grandmother's face and stated "this is the woman I am going to marry" instead of asking her. (Personally, I would have taken the mirror and smashed it on his head) I don't want anything like that. I'd rather stay alone for the rest of my life than have relationships like my grandparents'.
He is right about one thing tho -some women, who are still very immature and have a self esteem problem might fall for someone who is treating them badly, because unfortunately I was one of them, but as I got more mature, and gained some experience in life I only like and appreciate those who value me now. So , unfortunately women who fall for bad attitude do exist, but its only those who are incredibly insecure and have life lessons to learn
35:40 I think this brings up an interesting concept which is that there is physical attraction and emotional attraction. Someone's physical attraction generally goes up for me after I learn more about them/become friends/etc. I didn't think the man I married was the most physically attractive, but that didn't matter because I loved him and our conversations and inside jokes. Women DO end up with guys who are less attractive, the difference is in the act of willingly continuing the relationship, and not just enduring it because you're afraid of the consequence. Rachel is right; it's much better to wait, to grow familial or platonic love, than to go after a romance that degrades you into bits and pieces. I thought I would have to settle for someone, but things worked out. My husband absolutely loves me. He doesn't want to be with anyone else, and not because he doesn't believe he has another chance. He didn't collect me on his way to "conquest" a hotter lady. And all women deserve to be loved for who they are and not because they are 'bangable'.
Should my current relationship ever end, I am so ready to go for women only. Not that I don't enjoy being with a man but getting there is just ugh. Not once did I feel disrespected by a woman on a date even if the date was awkward or bad.
I am a totally straight woman amd you made me laugh.I it.Roosh is such a HORRIBLE person.I dont think its just his misogyny. Some men are misogyny.lite but he is SO extreme.He may also have a real case of Nsrcissistic Personality or Psychopathy.I may not be a lesbian Sis but if all men were like Roosh I woild just swear off men and stick to the Vibrator😝
Love how he's out here telling tall women to stop overlooking short men when in my experience as a tall women, it’s the men around my height and shorter who have a problem with my height, not me with theirs. I don't care about the height of my partner, but more men then I can count have started making demands regarding whether I'm "allowed" to wear heels once they learned I'm tall, or just stopped talking to me period.
Exactly. I'm almost 6 feet and had men tell me to my face "You're beautiful but too tall". Us ladies at least wouldn't tell a guy to his face that he's too short. I've dated amazing shorter men but some of them are so insecure I shan't.
Exactly… i have started to mention my height to men during our first conversation because it just somehow becomes a major issue with men shorter than me🤦🏻♀️
Same with making more money or having a higher degree. I dated a man with a lower degree than myself once, and he told me to quit my job because he made enough money for us both.
Not to be crude, but it really makes me chuckle they don't ever think about the fact that the more tall a woman is than them, the easier they can have boobs in their face, lol. You'd think straight guys would love that. I mean, my boyfriend does, he's noticeably shorter than me and finds it hot.
I would if I found bodies attractive, as I'm pansexual, but I'm on the ace spectrum, so I like to think that makes me unbiased? Maybe?
@@catlover2223 it's crazy when some guys think like this that there money is going to be enough to live on but if you take that deal and let a guy support you now your just using him for his money so you can't really win either way here.
What's worse is they know what there doing they just think its all a joke they can't make up there minds what they want from a woman but they feel entitied to one at the same time.
It makes no sense at all they can't have it both ways. You either support a woman or you don't there's no in between. That's why I never understood men either they don't want to support a woman but at the same time they get mad if a woman decides to support herself. So its better just to support yourself in the end because nobody else is going to do that for you.
Not only does Roosh demean women into sex objects/baby machines/domestic robots, he also assumes all men are as shallow and soulless as he is. I would pity him if he hadn’t done so much damage, both personally and by spreading this vile mindset.
Turn around and have a look. Is it Roosh who objectified women? Or is it women who objectify themselves craving for male attention? No it is not Roosh who objectified women. It is women doing their best to objectify themselves. Here this girl Rachel was telling us how Roosh V objectified women all while she is all dolled-up and showing cleavage. LOL! The irony!
I mean women demean themselves into sex objects. Do you see the clothes women buy and wear? Is it their intellect they are trying to display? All men have the same base instincts no matter how intelligent or honorable don’t fool yourself, we just have different opportunities. Most of the “best” men would fuck like crazy including married women, they’d be sex fiends, etc the opportunity simply never arises.
"Don't go for the seemingly attractive man with lots of beautiful women around him"
*deliberately takes pictures with attractive women to try and seem more interesting to other women*
The person who is “less likely to find another women” is not “less likely to cheat.”
If he is unable to get women that means he could possibly be just desperate to get any women. So if he gets ANY chance with ANY women, even while he is dating you, would grab that “opportunity” and just go for it.
And then he would rationalise it by saying that well the girl that i am dating also has had a lot of relations with men in the past… i should too get to “explore” even if it is through cheating. That person would also possibly use all the tricks in the manipulation manual to keep you with him. Not because he wants you but because he isn’t sure if he will ever get anyone ever again.
Major Red Flag 🚩 🚩 🚩 🚩
So true! My ex was a serial cheat and some of the people he cheated with were desperation options to him (his words). Women he had openly bad mouthed in the past to his friends. Then when he had an opportunity to sleep with them, he did. He used the excuse of “well you know I don’t really fancy X because I’ve always said she is fat. I slept with her because I was drunk and she tried it on with me”. BTW this man thought UK 10/ US 6 was “fat”. These people are truly pathetic. He had no respect for other human beings, it’s disgusting.
I fall I to that camp of not being able to get over my anxiety that makes me trip myself up in front of females I find attractive. And hence their beauty intimidates me. And I am I'm at with that as if I play it out in my head, I really don't want or fear the physical act of love. So I am best where I am not entitled and wasting a females time. But I know men who fit that photo you described. Don't understand it, why would you want to lie to another you are committed to? That makes no sense, and if I ask them what would happen if she did the same, they are irrate and would want her punished.
Yeah. He pretty much says: “women, find a lonely desperate guy who will stick around not because he loves you, but because he fears being single”.
I love how Roosh basically reads himself by admitting that women who avoid men like him have healthier relationships.
he think he's a top shelf guy who deserves a virgin. LOL!
Self awareness though
Keylanos Lokj First step in bettering himself I guess.
I agree and amazing profile picture of one of the best albums of all time
You don't get it, do you? That is the point of Roosh V. All the way since the very beginning. He proved his points 100%. But you just can't get it, you refuse to see the reality.
“Oh, these poor men who are controlled by their penises! They have it so hard!”
That hilarious accidental double entendre was far more beneficial to society than anything Roosh V can even attempt
Spot on regarding what you said about abusers. Incel-type men often have the misconception that women actively seek out men who treat them badly and start serious relationships with them, and therefore "deserve" to be abused because they made that conscious choice. WRONG. The majority of abusive situations DO start with guys who treat you incredibly nicely and then begin slowly, almost unnoticeably changing their attitude until the relationship becomes toxic. So if anything, we're "guilty" of falling for men who show us more care and love than the average man might. It's the other way round. This is why we are often wary of "nice guys" as we get older. And yes, even the initial argument that women only like bad boys only illustrates that there is an abundance of bad boys around.
also, a lot of the time these types of men use the phrase "Bad boys" to just mean strong men who give no fucks? Like a 'bad boy' is someone can be a man who gets told all of their misogynistic shit and goes "fuck off' and leaves the room- Like, sure, they might also mean abusive and terrible partners, but they could easily mean men who don't give incels the time of day. It's a coin toss if they men "Men who are bad for women" or "Men who are bad for my ego"
Nuh nonsense. The most respect you get from women is when you treat them like crap and then also show you got nice shades. It works so much better than constant niceness
@@keylanoslokj1806 I love how you have women telling you exactly what they don‘t want and decide to not listen but rather have your own dumb assumptions lol
@@stellaw3682 they don't know what they want mate. They are really sad and absurd creatures. Ask any husband ever. Same story "i give her everything and she still complain". Even their kids turn to them and red pill them "no matter what you do dad, you can't ever make her happy." It is what it is mate
@@keylanoslokj1806 or the husbands just don‘t put in any work - but think they do everything, so of course the wife would be in a bad mood and complain. Equal efforts.
Best way to explain what feminism is all about: “It doesn’t matter how you choose to live your life-as long as it’s YOUR choice.” Our goal is create a society in which anyone can live the life they desire. While I’m not surprised that people actually believe the BS in this book, I still can’t wrap my brain around how they do.
The only problem is that the term "feminism" makes people think of the loud minority of cringey, toxic, stupid "feminists".
This picture has also been inflated by the Alt-Right to make it seem that all feminists are insane and toxic.
i can never see it as a choice to put the idea of happiness aside and become financially dependent on some douche with a breeding fetish
No it's not, when women chose to live a traditional lifestyle they get treated like stupid traitors, I know a few who have had this treatment, completely ostracized from their previous circle of friends. A traditional lifestyle or converted to true christianity is a no-no. It's the same experience for black people who turn conservative, they get called r uncle tom and house n!66er.
Interesting, what if I said I want to have sex with children would you still say " It doesn't matter as long as it's your choice "? The way that women are choosing to live their lives ( promiscuous, single mothers) is affecting our society and making it degenerate. The same way that me having sex with children would also harm society.
@@BudSilverado420 Oh great, now not only being gay is apparently the same as pedophilia, but also feminism is like pedophilia - apparently. Please explain how being "promiscuous" or a single mother harms society in any way, shape or form.
Also, have you maybe considered that being a single mother is not a choice for many women? Their partner just leaves them once the baby is there and they´re stuck being a single mother. How is that their choice?
Don't rush to settle down with someone you have lukewarm feelings for, or "any man that will have you" 🤮I've seen it 1000 times, and if I had done it myself, I wouldn't be living freely as my authentic, sapphic self. Of course, not everyone is going to have the same realization I did, but realize this: it's better to be alone than to be with someone totally mediocre, who isn't physically or emotionally attractive to you and whose values aren't compatible with yours ♥️
Did it and it's also demeaning towards them, if they genuinely like you and you only do it out of pity or not being genuine it's only ends in heartbreak for them.. I did it to be nice not realizing I did more harm towards their self esteem .
most people are mediocre by definition, and a lot of them would be happier with another mediocrity than lonely.
@@joshridinger3407 The average person still has unique qualities about them, because an average is really just commonalities, rather than saying every person is exactly the same.
What they are saying, and what you are being obtuse about, is that you shouldn't settle for someone with, let's say, 50% compatibility with you. Most people have around that much with you, but it's a terrible basis for a relationship. A relationship should have more than average compatibility, not necessarily above average members. If the average person never entered a relationship, it would be silly, because there are so many other average people out there, and even unusual people who would be a good match for them, since the average person is also monogamous and wants a relationship.
Of course, these things aren't true for everyone, and what is "average" is entirely subject to the culture and people around you, but I'm gonna assume you're of a Western culture, as am I.
And of course, the average person isn't a real person, but the idea of one. Everyone is weird in their own different way, even if they don't show it.
@@beththedarkmage3359 nobody used the term 'average', they used the term 'mediocrity', that is, a person of low relative value, unworthy of love. but of course, most people are mediocre (including most people who think they're not); they may be unworthy of having high value partners, but they can take some comfort in each other. and for many (not all), that is in fact better than no relationship at all.
@@joshridinger3407 one person's mediorce is another person's ideal. What i might love you might hate and vice versa
its like actually scary how dehumanized women are to some men :(
the rise of andrew tate and people like this is actually so scary
Is it bad that I want Rachel to debate Andrew Tate?
@@imperatordei6615 Are you a clown? She would get destroyed.
Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson etc.
They are treated as GODS. They have tons of followers, and they are being milked out of their money (and minds..)
It really is like a virus: we are losing the tiny bit of evolution we managed to make.
Men and boys would rather choose these monsters than the truth, and peace.
Liars, manipulators, sickos etc. They're all winning instead of the right ones.
@@imperatordei6615I don't think there is any use in trying to debate that guy, you cannot debate something not intelligent
@@imperatordei6615 Andrew Tate isn't really able to debate people. He can only shout, and use swear words.
And he isn't even able to listen to another person.
Don’t know why a woman should give their number to either of the 2 guys … not the player or the awkward guy dripping in sweat you’ve not attraction too.. both are recipes for disaster. Some of the best romances have stemmed from a relationship that was originally a friendship but if you think about it there was a certain level of attraction from the start… put it this way you weren’t repulsed by them.
80 percent of men fall into the awkward category, especially in the presence of a beautiful woman such as yourself.
@@visaman down astronomical
@@visaman …dude-
@@visaman Ditch the fedora and just _talk_ to women like a normal person. If a dude comes up to me and feeds me a line like yours, that's an immediate red flag.
Lol, man gives compliment, women rip him apart.
this book should be called "How to blame the woman for everything, so you could avoid being held responsible for your own actions or grow as a person"...
so i'm a passive woman who wouldn't mind being a homemaker, i never liked the idea of dating or casual sex. i've met men like roosh and i would never. i'm not judging people who like casual hook-ups but i don't think i would be compatible with someone like that. obviously this is not the only thing that's wrong with roosh but i would imagine that it is an insecurity for him. he can pretend to be "a masculine man" but he can't take back his past so he has to downplay it and justify it.
Unless you are in a BDSM relationship, it's best not to say that you are passive, demure, would be a better word.
@@visaman Demure almost exclusively is used to describe attractive women who subscribe to gender roles. Its usage really doesn't paint a good picture for those who support choice and non gendered language.
Passive is completely fine and is even used medically, with mental illness, so I'm not really sure what your issue with the word is. I've never seen it used in a sexual context personally, unless someone is saying to a woman that she shouldn't fake orgasms and pretend to be having a good time when their partner is selfish, then I see them being described as too passive.
@@visaman I think 'submissive' is more likely to be associated with BDSM than 'passive'
Edit: passive/submissive is also more descriptive of the relationship dynamic, while demure is more of a personality trait that the OP may not identify with. so I would also not suggest that as an alternative
@@te-ter you are correct. I associated being passive with being submissive.
Homemaker vibes are good vibes.
"A man learns not to talk to women who have a closed demeanor" - oh if only that were true. Can you imagine how peaceful life would be if men like Roosh learned to just leave us alone?
Yes! I was like, do you promise? Can I get that in writing?
I just want to read in peace, maybe stop and pet a community cat, let me live!
Exactly! A woman simply existing in a public space is not an invitation. If a woman is quietly reading at a bus stop, or intent on her texting conversation, or listening to music through earbuds, or whatever, *she's not looking to be accosted.* I found Roosh's example of "Boring Bobby" harassing a woman at a cafe pretty funny. He doesn't seem to think that she's just there to enjoy her book, but instead, is actively inviting male attention. Ultimately "Eric"s approach is more appropriate because he's chatting up a woman at a club, a place where people go to hang out and dance and meet people. "Bobby" is just a creepo bothering a woman who's minding her own business.
When was the last time Roosh didn’t leave women alone?
You all crave roosh v ladies.grapes are sour😂
I just work on giving them creepier vibes than they are hehehe
The "Bad Boy" Archetype often gets a bad rep because it's kinda like 'Appreciating the aesthetic' more than genuinely liking a destructive, toxic person. The example I can think of is James Dean in "Rebel without a Cause' leather jacket, motorcycle, kinda on the outs of "civilized" (50's era sensibilities) society, but has a heart of gold. That's the part that a lot of people miss. He's loyal, caring, looks out for his community that's the appealing part aside from the general aesthetic itself. I don't know maybe I'm rambling here lol
P.S. Not too late to call this " Rachel Owns Insecure Incel" part 2 lol
That could be a series: “Oates Owns X”
Edit: name spelling, duh
@@alisaurus4224 Oates but yeah I'd watch it!
@@Resilient_Sage88 oh dang how did i screw that up! 😖
Exactly.
The whole point of that aesthetic is that he's rough around the edges while having a good heart.
Whereas the Nice Guy puts up a great front but is rotten to the core.
Same, I love tattoos and kinda alternative type misfit guys but the aesthetic and because they'll be less judgemental and likely have more in common with me than a preppy jock. I don't want that guy to be a jerk to me though, maybe a bad boy to polite society, but s3xy and fun with me.
There's something I'd like to add. Especially for the younger folks. If you feel like you're obligated to date and are desperate for help or clues because it all seems too strange, or absurd, while every other human being has it (or seems to) easy, calm down and don't panic. Having no interest in dating (or downright hating it) is perfectly normal. It may endure for long, even in the 50s. For life even. Do not try to emulate people like Roosh or Tate, even if somebody's pressuring you. For all we know it can all be an elaborate con. And even if it's not, people have different personalities and trying to act like you're a different one while you're struggling with your own self, can lead to serious damage to your health and to those around you. Take your time (all of it) to get to know yourself and what you like or don't, until you understand what you genuinely think about people, which are the ones you'd want in your life and then asking out for a date should become easier. And if you're bullied into becoming a Roosh, seek for help. Scream for it, if necessary. It doesn't mean you're less of a man or a woman.
I'm 36, in shape and try to keep up a nice appearance. I can promise you there has been no abrupt stop or decline in male interest, including from men in their early 20s to much older than me. Plus there are actual studies that show while men are attracted the most physically to women in early 20s, they still prefer to pursue women close to their own age for relationships, and who they message on dating apps. Only weird guys want some naive inexperienced younger woman specifically, and I'm ok with not interacting with those types. There's plenty of men in the sea.
Yeh, I think as you get older you only have less of those dudes that want to groom you really. But as Rachel said, sometimes it's nice to not have all the options available 😂
Keep coping, younger women are biologically more attractive than older women. And yes, men do like experienced women, for one night stands, we don’t marry those.
@@psychotate3788 Found the incel who can't read.
@@psychotate3788 sounds like a sad time for yall but go be happy I guess 😂
@@psychotate3788you don’t. Not all men. Also, your picture is of Andrew Tate. A man who had committed sex crimes. Lol
I've been trying so hard for years to get my novels finished and published.
Then disgusting things like this guy has several "books" out? When there's nothing of substance? It's a woman abuser who needs to shave, spouting rubbish?
They ask why I'm depressed.
Then again, everything about "men" like him adds to my and I'm guessing many others' depression.
Edit; BTW; Didn't a woman help create the world's first functioning computer? Like how a woman invented sci-fi? Like how a woman helped discover the pattern of human DNA?
We've done quite a LOT for a load of silly frilly little things!
Edit 2; Treat your partner, not as another choice, but how Gomez treats Morticia "Woo her. Make her feel like the most sublime creature on Earth!" (My fave one is "With you my love, every night is Halloween")
Edit 3 : A lot of you have been so kind. Thank you. I Wish those of us who have at least SOMETHING to say even if it is in an odd way were able to do it rather than hateful wankers like this one.
I'll do my best to get myself sorted and therefore my writing. X
I know it’s sad that a writer like you just wants to publish a nice book but can’t and a gross woman abuser can easily get his books out. I really hope you can get your book published.
@@cat_man5334 Thank you very much. My books are horror-ish but mostly metaphors about mental health and discrimination. Hence why they're taking so long (Also cos I'm not well) I'm trying to help in my individual way, this guy is...urgh.
Remember: You put effort into your novels. This guy just shits out these things and just publishes them himself.
there is about a 100% chance his book is self-published. i tried to find the publisher, but came up with nothing.
Roosh would be like 'confused Oonga Boonga' also I hope you can get your work published @T.
Someone once pointed out that these Pick-up Artist types aren't interested in sex except as a thing to brag about to their (male)friends and that really recontextualizes a lot of what Roosh says.
It's like they don't even enjoy it.
i love when these people say "men are hunters and women stay at home!" like ok well why don't you go out and hunt a deer for me and then we'll talk. wait sorry i forgot you don't know how to hunt because this hasn't been true for thousands of years lol
Sarah Palin hunts wolves.
@@visaman Does she still miss with the first twenty shots and have to get someone else to reload the rifle for her?
@@Sableagle Haha, I don't know.
So to bring it into the present day, “Go to the grocery store for me, buy some food, come home and make me dinner!”
Even funnier: There's increasing evidence that when our ancestors were still hunter-gatherers, strict gender roles for division of labor weren't really a thing. Able-bodied people tended to hunt, including women. Elders, pregnant women, children, and the injured/sick would forage more locally. The concept of a husband who works and a wife who stays home has never been typical throughout modern history either. Incels are just in love with the Leave It To Beaver fantasies of 1950s America, a lifestyle only available to relatively wealthy white people at a time when salaries were relatively high and cost of living was low (again, for white people).
Can you imagine being so insecure and in denial you write a book about how other people 'should' be insecure bc they're 'in denial'. God I'm so over the men.
- signed respectfully, and regretfully, a man
Imagine identifying yourself as a man while being ashamed of being one because of the actions that one idiot has done just by having a platform to spread his own brand of mutually toxic stupidity.
- signed bluntly, and proudly, a man.
@@c6rn6g2k1d
The point is: it's NOT JUST ONE 1D10t !!!
That is why this BS is so toxic and damaging.
He had the b@lls to say this at least.
If all the women started being this delusional and nasty, I'D also be ashamed AF to be one ( I already already associate with them due to how women are viewed and told to act: so....)
If men dont denounce this or speak about it: you're part of the problem. JUST like I denounce other women when they are nasty.
Self hating man.
No different than a self hating Jew or self hating woman.
@@FocusedFighter777 Those few idiots don't represent the rest. It's stupid no matter what.
@@ShockgueyYou may be surprised to realize that most men are more likely to be on the Roosh side of the spectrum
i loved when he's like "you wanna do this to avoid cat ownership which is becoming the norm"
I love cats and i would much rather never date again then get rid of my fur baby. No person is worth giving up my cat for. He has been with me through my worst and is honestly an angel. So he's hurting his arguement here.
Same-I raised all four of my cats. Those girls are my babies.
Cats are not babies, ladies....
Also with the Eric and Bobby example...why do you have to choose one of them? Just give your number to both. Because Eric might actually be tired of the playboy life and looking to settle down and start a family, while Bobby may be using his new-found status or promotion to get in the game and start picking up women or gathering sexual experience. Not saying that's very likely, but it could be. So yeah, I would go on a first date with Eric and Bobby, and see what they're about. Bad example.
I knew a guy who's been pretty nice. He got his first gf at around 17 or 18 and somehow, he became a complete asshole after they broke up and told me things like that it's unfair that I have slept with a friend of mine but never gave him a chance even though he's known me for longer... so I agree
Don't give # to either.
I have been with my wife for over 14 years and married for almost half of it. She is not plump, not chubby but fat and has her head shaved and is the sexiest most beautiful person I have ever meet. And honestly I have never even thought anybody else ever being beautiful or sexy neither before nor after meeting her.
That warmed my heart so much!
I'm not much of a romantic, but hearing about long-term, loving partnerships like yours warm the cockles of even my jaded heart. 💜💜💜
"Being feminine is being a worm on a fish hook"
What a scary state of existence 😂😂😂
"Says he found god"
Translation: He's gonna use religion as an excuse for his deplorable actions.
“God, if you don’t want me to SA women you may strike me down now….
…I guess God’s on my side then!”
No, it's an expression, meaning that nobody buys his particular line of bullshit anymore.
When I heard he'd found religion and his views of women I wondered if he'd joined the Taliban.
@@matthewnewell4517 lmao
What actions? Living with your mom and making pizzas and praying? The dude is a literal hermit now, he renounced everything he said as a PUA and pulled all his books from publication. He has apologized and repented repeatedly and profusely for what he falsely taught other men. Will you only be happy when he is dead?
I cannot beliiiiieeeve how many men make a career out of trying to trick women into doing their chores for them.
the fact that so many men work this hard to get someone else to do their daily menial tasks for them, rather than just doing these things themselves is absolutely mindblowing (and such a testament to these creep’s entitled desire for power and control)
This is meant for housewives. A house wife is a house wife so the man can focus on earning money. A woman’s goal should be to raise a family and to be a housewife. Instead feminism has created two employees for the price of one.
@@runTellDat99 have fun dying alone 😂
@@runTellDat99 I think you might be blaming feminism for what might more accurately blamed on capitalism my friend
@@runTellDat99 Like, males have been forcing women to work either for pennies or for free for millenia, boo. Feminists wanted women to earn as much as males, boo. Not their problems that them males in power decided to pay other males less instead of paying women more, boo.
My parents met when my mom was already in her 30's. My dad is four years younger. They're still happily married and have a wonderful relationship.
Also, dear Roosh, if you absolutely refuse to do any cleaning, just hire someone. There are wonderful, dedicated housekeepers and you should be rich enough, right? Just make sure to keep your hands to yourself.
And that's why you grew up a complete defect by a 30 year old woman who's womb and egg was compromised. My mother was also in her 30s and I was born autistic.
Lmao they met in their 30’s and your name is autistic that’s fitting
man-splaining is a thing. my friend and i had just finished a project. all done. finished. her husband comes home and starts telling us how to do the project. so insulting!
my teenaged son has recently picked that habit up.. learned it from his father. They will also both not listen to my suggestions but when they hear the same suggestion or advice from a man they are suddenly ready and willing to listen and appreciate the advice. When I say something the are annoyed I criticized them and I’m just nitpicking, it’s like they can’t deal with a woman who may have a good idea they didn’t think of.
Assuming that your friend's husband somehow knew you two were doing a project, knew you two completed the project, and then proceeded to nitpick by telling you how he would have done it, then yes I'd agree that would certainly be insulting.
But then again, I'm assuming that's how it happened.
@@c6rn6g2k1d no. we'd FINISHED the project. we were letting the paint dry.
Eh... either he's a pretty awkward guy, or I'm guessing he likes building projects as a hobby and felt challenged...?
@@c6rn6g2k1d why tf would he feel challenged by his wife and her friend doing a project together???? it's not a competition, unless he views his wife as inferior as less than him; because that's how most men view women
Be carerful ladies, if you have your own resources and listen to people telling you to go after your goals you might end up *checks notes* with a partner you want.
The horror!
Can confirm that as a strong, feminist woman, my masculine boyfriend has never been intimidated by my "masculine traits" in our seven year relationship.
That's me and my partner! He's the most macho ish man I've been with and I'm fairly masculine but he's the sweetest person I've ever known, never weird about me being better with power tools than him or something lol
labeling yourself as strong / feminist is as cringe as some guy labeling themselves alpha
@@josephmueller3752 Cope.
It is so scary that he could have made money from those books.
Thinking that he ruined sex for that woman isn't a flex like he thinks, it is just cruel!
Your story about being a second, third choice made me feel so sad for your sake. Especially after you got so excited for that first date.
I think that your date was feeling a bit insecure and in some weird way was hoping that you would try to fight to be his first option.
I have to admit, I did this when I was a teen. It is really sad that people still think that would work.
I've been single for a few years now, while I might feel a bit lonely sometimes, I do feel content most of the time. Got my fluffy queen, my games and my hobbies.
Turns out being single was what I needed to grow as a person!
IIRC that exact thing is a PUA tactic, to make the woman try to be the best date of your night. He probably didn’t have another one, and now he has none :(
It's called "spinning plates," named after the novelty acts appearing on the old Ed Sullivan Show, in 1948. It means dating several women at the same time, giving equal attention to each one. It is not an easy task, I was doing two, I mean dating two women, and it nearly drove me to bankruptcy.
honestly I have seen these same talking points on incel cringe compilations.
I dont know did he come up with them him self and they are like some incel hive mind, or did he actually proceed to copy paste some directly from reddit.
Call Sexy Eric and Boring Bobby in for a polyamorous relationship. Sorted.
They can both learn from each other!
Wait until Eric tries to set up a threesome with another woman, then run off with her.
It's usually men saying not all men (and then women like me have to explain that we aren't saying 'all men') but in this case it's the opposite.
We have to tell Rooch (and men like Roosh) that no
Not all men either view women as 'orgasm or love'.
Not all men 'lose interest' in women that are 'easy'.
Not all men only like feminine women.
Not all men have a 'fun stage'.
Not all men want to be the one to ask their partner on a date. etc etc
"If a woman witholds sex from me for more than a few days, I will investigate her sexual history"
YOU LITERALLY JUST SAID THAT A WOMAN WHO WANTS A "QUALITY" MAN SHOULD WITHOLD SEX FOR WEEKS
That makes sense. He will investigate because he wants to makes sure you made everyone wait, not just him.
@@ZelenoJabko why does waiting matter??
@@ZelenoJabkoyikes.
@@emilys8072 garden tool
Oops, I'm fat, have short hair and I proposed to my husband... but hey, we have been together for almost 20 years by now...
hOw dArE yOU bReAk tHe pErFeCtLY cOnStRuCTeD iDeOLogy???
(Congratulations on your 10 years, btw 😊👍)
I can tell you from firsthand experience that “men don’t want female friendships if they can’t eventually hit” is complete bs. 2 of the guys I was interested in decided it wouldn’t work out and asked if I wanted to keep being friends, and we’re still in contact to this day. There were 2 other guys who I did the same to, and I’m still in contact with them as well. One of my aroace friends has a few guys she’s had to let down that she still hangs out with.
I’m convinced this guy doesn’t have a single emotionally fulfilling relationship in his life, whether it’s platonic or romantic.
(Edited for clarification)
true, he must've got hurt early and messed up his ability to form attachment and now project his own issues on everyone else
This man is so delusional. My boyfriend and I are together for 5 years now and he has always been respectful, loving and an amazing partner, and he came with way more qualities than just 3 btw 😂 we also grew together we helped each other become the version we always wanted to be. He helped me to be more sensitive, empathetic and calm. I helped him become more confident and outspoken. He loves me for who I am with all my flaws and I do too. Good men are out there that don’t reduce you to an object! Keep your standards high only then a good men comes your way, I had awful partners before him until I stood up for myself saw my own worth, he came around and I‘ve never been happier.
he has been your boyfriend for 5 years? why hasn't he proposed yet?
I can absolutely relate to being "the second option". I know a guy whom I though was very interesting, and fun to be around and talk to. I was not sure at all that I wanted to go anywhere romantic with him, although he was very attractive and he had suggested that we hook up on previous occasions. So everything was great untill I once went out with a good friend of mine and started telling her about said dude. And she stopped me mid-sentence and said - "He said and did the same things with me, and litterally went out with me the same night he went out with you. When I turned him down, he must have gone on to have drinks with you, and invite you to hook up." When I compared notes with my friend, it was obvious he was just looking for someone to sleep with that night and was burning through options. I am incredibly grateful to her for her honesty. She's an amazing frined. And he is just a duche!
You once again prove that all women are sleeping with the same 10 percent of men. This is what red pill has been saying for a while.
Me - a Jewish woman with EXTREMELY thick hair
hears the "I don't buy the its too hot" SIR MY HAIR IS LITERALLY HEAVY. LIKE I HAVE TO THROW MY HAIR UP IN A MESSY BUN TO GET IT OFF MY NECK WHAT-
Remember, if he’s never had an experience, that experience doesn’t exist lol.
According to our author, I'm well past my expiration date. Regardless of this fact, I've spent the last several years single (for the first time in my life,) and I've come to wonder why I've given so much priority to romantic relationships. I don't think I'm very good at them & when I stopped and took off the pressure, I realized that for now I'm not interested. If and when that changes, that will be fine too.
I hope if you are reading this that you are safe and sound 💜
Yeah women expire at 30
Well, he did say over 30, like 38 perhaps?
"women expire at 30."
by what logic?
"they cant get pregnant anymore."
untrue, and also some people dont even want kids.
"I want kids!"
well go be with someone who also wants kids.
"no! I want YOU to have kids with ME before youre 30."
@@KossolaxtheForesworn 30 is the prime time of baby making. 40 not so much
@@visaman
too bad no one wants to have them with u
Dude, yes. Don't settle. I did, and it was miserable.
I did that too, four of those six years I was miserable. Hope you feel better now!
@@tuntemon I'm doing much better now. Divorce is quite a solution for that problem lol
This book sounds like a magnum opus to Roosh's insecurities.
In 2016, Roosh was banned from visiting the City Of Vancouver, by the Mayor. Other Canadian cities followed suit.
"By allowing the masculine to come into the feminine" I just almost puked into the bus
I think you were spot on about the idea of "bad boys" It's just an excuse to treat women worse.
I have 2 cats, am taking antidepressants, AND i have a perfect relationship with someone who i can confidently say that i fell in love with permanently, someone treats me with love and respect, someone who has never failed my trust. So it is possible too roosh, surprise, people's "fates" are different xd
As an amab, I am personally offended by how this man acts like men are all gods and women should just worship them. The patriarchy is too strong within him.
Women love that shit though
@@keylanoslokj1806 Not all of us XD Can't lump us together. I couldn't give a crap if a guy is Thor or Loki. Or Thanos. Just a guy.
@@Roadent1241 normal women. If such a thing exists
@@keylanoslokj1806 no they don't
@@keylanoslokj1806 noooooo they dont lol
I had to correct a common misconception about feminism in my class.😓 Feminism is not women attacking men. Feminism is women fighting for equal rights. THAT'S LITERALLY IT. I know there are women who take it too far and are convinced that feminism means tearing down men. (Which most feminists don't agree with anyway) and that kind of behaviour fuels men's hate for feminists because of the bad representation by a select few backwards-thinking women. Also, there are no "extreme feminists". When people say "extreme feminists", they really mean women who aren't really feminists and are actually just poisoning the good cause by taking almost every interaction with a man as an attack on women. Let me be clear; I AND THE MAJORITY OF WOMEN DO NOT AGREE WITH THOSE BEHAVIOURS AND WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU DID NOT RIDICULE WOMEN BASED ON THE COMMENTS AND MISCONCEPTIONS OF A FEW WOMEN WHO ARE NOT REALLY FEMINISTS. Thankyou.
(Sorry for the caps, not shouting, just thought that last bit needed emphasise)
I had a "fun" conversation with a conservative friend over feminism a few years back in which she completely misconstrued the concept of feminism and swore that feminism had nothing at all to do with her freedom to be a single woman with a career and and a voter (for Trump...twice).
So I'm asexual - in the sense that I can't experience attraction. Nearly 34 years old now and I still don't even know what attraction feels like. I found a "Bobby" a guy I could tell was moderate in looks, rather awkward in conversation but stable in like the rest of his life. Boring Bobby turned out perfect for me though because we shared a love of gaming and had good chemistry (outside of attraction of course) SO "boring bobby" worked out for me. That does NOT mean boring Bobby would work out for most women. In fact I didn't even meet my Bobby (that's not his real name btw) until I was nearly 30 so I certainly wasn't settling as this idiot implies I should have. If I HAD settled early on I would've been married as a teen and in a much worse place if that man's FB is any indication. In other words this dude's advice is just complete wrong. Boring Bobby still needed more to him that just being stable, if we hadn't loved to game and talk about shared interests I would have stopped dating my Bobby long ago.
That's great, is he asexual too out of interest?
@@cuppachar201 No, he's hetero. Though who he is attracted to seems more like he's demi since he doesn't find most people attractive without getting to know them first.
Is the Asexual self diagnosed? Because you don't sound like you display the symptoms.
@@Shockguey idk if this is a dumb question but is there another way to know if you're asexual? Aren't all sexualities self diagnosed
@@W-I463 No. Asexuality is actually the most studied of all the disparate sexualities so it should be easy for a certified psychologist to diagnose you.
Roosh has never had a long-term relationship and still isn’t married. Why does he think he’s qualified to give relationship advice?
"Such a man doesn't feed your devil?"
Well, I didn't know I had one, but I'll feed my pets myself, thank you.
We all have an angel or a devil on our shoulders, whispering into our ears.
@@visaman You sure they're not a logical vulcan and a curious catgirl? You sure there isn't a pretty, pretty princess occasionally displacing one of them and taking over that shoulder? What if they have orange-blue or green-magenta morality? Do you still call them angel/devil?
@@Sableagle I met an angel on my cruise to Alaska, she is a top Polka musician. Her name is Mollie B, and she danced a Waltz with me. Her videos are on RUclips.
I wonder what section libraries place his books into. Fiction or non-fiction ???
I didn't know *Self help* books had a fiction section.
I would probably place it in horror or the mental section tbh.
They put his books in the trash.
Most self-help is fiction
The toilet. It's right next to the higher-quality paper with the serrations that make it easier to tear off.
@@zacheryeckard3051 As they should.
Men who are less likely to cheat on you can still betray your trust in other ways. I am currently dealing with ending a 6+ year relationship where this person kept lying to me about his finances, kept wasting money and getting into credit card debt. I told myself for so long that it was something we could work through since he would never cheat on me but not only was I settling for someone who is SO FAR beneath me, I was constantly being lied to by this person.
Not even 2 minutes in, and OF COURSE Roosh went from "let me show you how I assault women" to "I'm a changed man and I deserve a virgin wife." 🙄
"We're all doomed after 30." I guess I'm dust by now :( No one told me I was supposed to wither away.
ETA: Of course you have to display a certain set of characteristics to be worthy of love. 🙄
I know he wants a virgin wife In a word where he teaches men to assault and “pump and dump” women. It’s like says make sure you have sex with as many women as you can but get a virgin wife.
We know he's bad in bed because he told us so in the books he wrote.
It's called "hitting the wall, some women hit it softly, over a period of years, others hit it square on, and, it ain't pretty.
@@visaman And what happens when a man or woman hits this wall?
@@FeministCatLadySpinsterFor a woman, it's when the first grey hair is showing, the first wrinkle, her face "falls," then menopause. Don't hate me, but some men say that's when her sexual marketplace value goes down. For men, it doesn't really happen until he hits 80, this is why Sean Connery is often used as an example of a man who was virile until the end. One could say the same thing for Cary Grant.
But, let's look at Olivia Newton-John, she was battling breast cancer for 15 years, yet, she still looked good, to these eyes anyways.
I really don't like the term myself, as I have always been attracted to mature women. I like crows feet on women, it shows that they have lived a long and interesting life.
roosh v is a sad, strange little man
And he does not have my pity. ~gives Spock hand sign~ But I will tell him farewell.
I can't imagine being with someone simply because I find them tolerable. It would eventually become intolerable knowing how much better it could be. I'm so glad I refused to compromise on my personal values, wants, and needs in a partner, even if it meant I stayed single for a long time. I eventually found someone who was truly right for me. And even if I didn't, I'd be so much happier alone than in a dreadful situation like that.
It's also completely gross how he acts like a woman's life only has value if she gets married and has children. You can see it in the way he talks about how women over 30 should just marry ASAP. There's more to life than that, Roosh. Not everyone wants to have kids, let alone settle for the first person who gives them attention.
Right? And what if you don't find the love of your life at that age? You can't just settle for someone you don't love!
The snarky, sarcastic reading with the classical music in the background is absolutely sending me. Thank you for putting yourself through this and reading all of this absolute trash for our edu-tainment, Rachel! :'D
I'm 58 years old and overweight by 35lbs. Post menopausal and not interested in dating and even while wearing a mask I still get men of all ages who work in retail bending over backwards to help me out. I have beautiful eyes and virtually no wrinkles. I choose to be alone and happy with my decision because I'm done raising my sons and don't want a man child to take care of. Even if I start dating again in the future I would never have a live in partner. I like my solit6too much. Studies show women without a live on partner live longer and happier lives
Men without a live in partner live shorter and unhappy lives. Draw what conclusions you would like
"Studies show women without a live on partner live longer and happier lives" This is so true! I mean academic research says it all but also anecdotal evidence. My grandpa died early into my grandmother's marriage with him and she stayed unmarried for decades after that. While it may have been due to unresolved grief, she didn't seem to unhappy. Was always eager to learn and educate herself, had a bunch of friends (and the occasional casual relationship), visited family abroad and went for solo vacations. I didn't have the best relationship with her but the way she consciously directed her life sounded amazing honestly. I am convinced that that would have went differently if she was married all of those years.
I don't think Roosh is ready to meet lesbians... 😂
Any guy who spends his time telling women to “lower expectations” does NOT have a healthy self-image. Everything Roosh says just screams insecurity.
Hey, Rachel. I've been watching a lot of your videos recently, and I just wanted to say thank you for doing what you do. I struggle a lot with depression, but your voice is just so calming & your demeanor so friendly & welcoming that it helps me a lot to listen to your videos when I'm trying to get stuff done. So, just thank you & keep doing what you do
Thank you ♥️♥️♥️
The reason they want women to be mothers is because mother’s love is assumed to be unconditional. There is no social demand that you love her back like you would your partner. Basically Roosh thinks women should love men unconditionally. So yeah. He’s a baby. Gross. Ladies, don’t date babies.
All I need in a woman is a connection. Once we start talking, if she's shy or bold, similar interests to me or polar opposite, short or tall, all of these I start to love about her after we connect from talking. I have found all sorts of women datable, once we start talking. Women who I didn't find attractive at first, as we talk and connect I start finding all sorts of things I then find attractive about them.
I loooove men who think they know women better than women.
A person i was seeing did that a LOT, to the point where i told him "we're over now. i don't care what you do, I'm ok" and he responded with "you keep saying you're ok but i don't think you are".
WHY DO SOME MEN THINK THEY KNOW US BETTER THAN OURSELVES? YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT. SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN.
Hey Rachel, there is another set of books I think you will find interesting to read and critique. They are "Fascinating Womanhood Vintage Edition" By: Helen Andelin and "Fascinating Womanhood For The Timeless Woman" By Dixie Andelin Forsyth.
Thank you so much for the affirmations throughout the video. For real, this has helped me process some real trauma. This assholes ideas did not come out of thin air, it's sadly pervasive in American culture and it hurts real people everyday.
I'm even more traumatized after finding out about guys like roosh..... He is BRAGGING about r4ping and traumating women forever. I'm scared of accidentally getting involved with a man in case he is one of the millions of Rooshs out there
I found myself initially attracted to my partner because she was such an individual, confident, independent, kind, empathetic and well educated person. Neither of us want kids, we're both childfree and shared similar views on the world. This dude's take is so disgusting. It just screams giant manbaby-abusive-manipulator who targets people who are vulnerable. My partner and I are going on 4 years now and it's been the best 4 years of my life. She's an amazing person, stands her ground, doesn't put up with crap and I'm proud she's done so much with her life.
Roosh :- "I don't care if my partner wants to go out and work and have a social life that I'm not involved in. Just as long as my dinners on the table when I get home from the pub."
Sounds good, eh?
I just can´t with guys that feel that women are just there to please them and they can pick. I am gay and not relation material, and very honest about that, but I will never treat people like they exist for my pleasure.
I’m just gonna say that I have never seen such a comforting presence as yours❤. I have never felt so safe on the internet before lol😅
Oh that’s so lovely to hear, thank you! :)
Ah perfect. Got a midnight snack, taken my meds, Rachel posts the long awaited roosh vid. My night just got a whole lot... worse, i guess?
I have to take my hypertension meds, and, it's past Midnight!
"Many men use platonic relationship as a strategy to get laid"
Nah, it feels like he's just projecting his garbage behavior and attitudes towards other men in a silly attempt to convince people this is normal.
Part of column A, part of column B. Some men really mean it, others will wait in the wings until you turn up single.
what he knows about people could be written on the head of a pin with a wide magic marker.
The "protection" part of this masculinity construct always makes me apoplectic because:
1) I'm only sexually harassed in public (by men) when I'm alone. Other men don't tend to sexually harass women who are with men or mixed-gender groups, so no male partner can "protect" me from this, since it only happens when they aren't there. And men, in general, don't protect anyone from this because they are either perpetrators or they don't police other men in public to put a stop to this conduct.
and
2) I've been put in danger time and again by male partners and their un-controlled rage. So how can they protect me from themselves? And these partners were the very same who insisted that "protection" was something they could offer me. In fact, that they /did/ protect me from others by virtue of their presence. Which just hit as manipulative lies, since I felt the need to protect myself /from them/, by absenting myself.
Men obsessed with "protecting" their families are, in my experience, the ones those families need to be protected from.
That isn't really masculinity nor the partners you've had are real men. That is a piss-poor attempt at trying to pass off parasitic narcissism as the general image of what manhood is, and those partners of yours are nothing more than mentally stunted children trying to pass off as men.
Don't go and generalize an entire gender just because the community you've surrounded yourself happens to be one that is morally deficient.
Ditto.
Your first point brings up a memory from one of my visits to Saudi Arabia when my parents were still working there. My mom and I chose not to wear black robes on one of our outings to the city, and just after we walked in to a small shopping center without my dad, a small group of men pointed and jeered at us. The moment my dad walked in, they tucked tail and walked away. Freaking cowards.
Even a wedding ring works for some reason. Men don't bug me as much now that I reference my husband and they see my ring.
Literally this whole thing reads like a compilation of reddit incel posts. "WAAAAH women dont want to be with me because I'm totally uninteresting! WAAAH women need to lower their standards! Women don't want to have mediocre sex with me! Women dont think I'm good looking! Why dont women want to wait on me hand and foot 😭😭😭" it's like the biggest out on himself. What a worm of a human being 🤣
I’m a cis woman, I believe I present pretty clearly as femme, but also I work in the trades (so I work with mostly men) and I am confident, outspoken, and I enjoy being that way, and working with my hands, and other “masculine” traits. I managed to somehow find a man who isn’t intimidated by me, or by how I made more than him (less now that I’m mostly home caring for our child- finally “put in my place” lolz)
Also, so happy for you & your partner, Rachel, it’s awesome to hear you’ve met someone special and are in love!! I wish you guys all the best.
27:11 as a man it annoys me when some men claim to speak on behalf of us all like we're all the same. Especially when they depict us all as being so simplistic we place all women into 1 of only 2 boxes ("Love" box and "Orgasm" box.) Eh?! What about women I don't fancy?
I don't consciously put people in boxes when I meet them but if I were to do that with women I can think of way more than 2 boxes off the top of my head:
Potential Sex Partner
Potential Romantic Partner
Potential Platonic Friend
Potential Useful Aquaintance
Potential Enemy
Neutral/Meh
And I have to label them as Potential X because first impressions don't tell one everything and thus impressions (and "boxes") can change.
As an animal nerd I wanted to add my two cents to his lion analogy.... Lioness' do all the hunting while male lions lay around all day, being lazy.... 🤦♀️
They are not being lazy tough... someone have to watch the pride territory or another male will walk in or hyenas, kill the children and mate the females. So acctually the Male lion is risking his life fighting other male lions and animals for the sake of the pride, to give the female a home, to be safe in. Youre right bout the hunting stuff tough.
i've only just heard of you a few weeks ago when your first Harrow Faire book review dropped. i can tell that you're very passionate about the things you talk about on your channel and you seem like such a wonderful person. i'm so glad i discovered you and look forward to continue seeing you success. 🥰🥰🥰
Thank you so so much! I’m very happy to have you here 😊
@@RachelOates you're welcome!
I took both Eric and Bobby's numbers and then set them up with each other. They're getting married in November.
The reason Christianity massively thrives to this day was that King Ferdinand was not a beta like this guy and also not afraid to rule the kingdom together with a woman with strong (arguably stronger) character Queen Isabella.
I never understoood the predator/ prey allorgory with romance. If your a pretty she-antelope grazing in the savana, you wanna get away from the lion so you can mate with a prettty he-antelope. The lion would see you the same way i see a tuna sandwich
So, correct me if I'm wrong here, but the outtake of this entire thing is that a man will not love a woman at all. Like, never. All a man will love, according to Roosh, is the amount of effort he has put into that woman. The woman herself is irrelevant, what's relevant is the man's influence on the woman's life and the amount of control the man has on her.
That... that is a disgusting mindset...
I wonder how men like this guy would react to a woman lecturing them on how they should "settle for a woman that they aren't necessarily attracted to, but she'll be a good partner to you, instead of aiming for the hot and exciting woman"
As someone on the verge of dating someone with short blue hair I can attest that short hair is adorable. Second there's no "possessed by a monster between my legs thing" I mean yeah things can get tempting but it's important to learn self control. Third I think women who earn more than me or are stronger than me or even taller are still attractive. They can make up for what I lack and can make a relationship better. Like of I can't quite afford something I want or I don't have any gas money then having someone who will have my back is amazing and way less stressful than having to pay for everything myself. I mean that all within reason of course.
I really want to write a book to help incels with dating because it used to be a really supportive community of guys helping each other before things got to where they are now. Any opinions?
@@georgelarie I’m a bi woman and I loooove short hair on women. Well I like every length lmao
And I think you should absolutely do that. Definitely find some therapists/psychologists who specialize in sexuality/dating to coordinate with so that you make sure youre using best practices when curating a bunch of advice! And be sure to talk to some women, especially those who work with domestic violence non profits. Talk to incels, normal teen boys with dating anxiety and older guys who have found a partner. Talk to everyone you get so you’re able to represent their perspectives and advocate for dating & sexual health in the best way possible!
From what I’ve seen, a lotttt of dudes have toxic attitudes towards women & they refuse to listen to any woman, even professionals, when it comes to dating. So I welcome any effort by men to educate boys about dating, especially those who will include the voices/concerns of women 💕
The minimum for me is someone I can talk to, have fun with, and laugh together, being awkward is fine if we can relate and have fun in some different way than talking at first, I'm awkward af and don't have a lot of social skills to be honest and I've very introverted, so the second scenario would be hell to me, having a man come up to me, attractive or not, try to start a conversation with me, about a book I'm reading and then not be able to hold a conversation and be awkward about the situation, even though he started it, would immediately turn me off and make my anxiety shoot through the roof so I wouldn't give the number
And for the first situation I wouldn't be found in a club to begin with so
If I met mister first guy and we had a fun time talking even if there's another girl next to him vying for his attention I'd give him my number just to see if we could be friends lol
Just a suggestion, you may want to join a book club, granted, mostly ladies go to them, but, it might bring you out of your shell a bit
Man here: I am dating basically the perfect girl right now honestly, at least for me:
1) She loves art and poetry and photography, which is so hard to find when I was on dating apps
2) She is self sufficient in terms of finances
3) She is confident and outgoing (She asked me for our first kiss before I did, and she snuck a kiss on my chest when we were in public)
She's a little on the plump side, but so much better than what I could have dreamed of. It's so rare to meet someone who is not only into you but also interested in what you like and basically checks off everything of what you want in a partner. Usually it's one or the other.
One thing I am worried is that she loves her family very much, and I do not like my family at all. Even a little bit. I'm not sure whether she would want to date someone who basically hates his family, or whether she could understand.
But the biggest issue is that she's Indian and Hindu, and my parents want a Chinese Christian (I'm Malaysian Chinese). I don't really care what they think, but it's making me dread if/when we make it official and I have to tell them at some point.
And if anyone is asking why I don't leave my family, that's because Malaysia is not very kind to people who suffer from panic attacks. As much as I don't like my parents, they are the only ones who can get me a job where I don't get screamed at if I f**k up. At least that's my situation at this point.
I'm glad that you have someone who makes you happy.
Being with people different from ones background is becoming more and more common. I'd imagine that your parents have friends with children who have dated/married people from other backgrounds.
They may accept your relationship more easily than you expect.
I love reading all these real life love stories. There are no perfect people out there, but there are a few special ones we find and just click with. I’m so happy for you 2 that you found each other. I’m sorry that you’re in the position of being dependent upon family you don’t like, I hope you can work to change that if possible. You might end up really loving her family. I’m not close to any of my cousins, but my husband has a bunch of cousins and I’ve gotten to like many of them, it’s actually really fun to be the “in law” cousin. It’s a different perspective on the family. Anyway, I wish you the best. Love rules.
marry that girl
I love how he shows us two extremes - either a super handsome, great with women, flirtatious guy or socially awkward creep with poor hygene. There are no middles here. I wonder who he thinks he is in that scenario?
I'm 6'3 and my boyfriend is 5'9. I guess we need to break up.
And if anyone says you two can't be a cute couple due to height just say you're Lady Dimitrescu - tall, charismatic and beautiful. And he's the luckiest gamer in the fandom.
Regarding your date, the guy was trying to ‘prove his value’ and make you feel grateful for his attention. Pretty foul.
How is Roosh not in prison?
Nah, I feel in love with my wife who I saw take a shot of alcohol, gave a Hoorah that would make a Marine proud, and jump up on the table, then promptly falling off. She doesn’t drink often and was dared on this lil moment. It is okay to be shy but I have always liked people who match my energy and as a very outgoing and loud person, I need someone to be like me in that way. She is my dream girl and I love her more than life itself.
That single line on a marriage like my grandparents had convinced me never to become married lmao
Ikr? My paternal grandmother was forced into marriage at 15 with a 31 yo man that she most definitely did not want. My maternal grandfather put a mirror in my grandmother's face and stated "this is the woman I am going to marry" instead of asking her. (Personally, I would have taken the mirror and smashed it on his head) I don't want anything like that. I'd rather stay alone for the rest of my life than have relationships like my grandparents'.
He is right about one thing tho -some women, who are still very immature and have a self esteem problem might fall for someone who is treating them badly, because unfortunately I was one of them, but as I got more mature, and gained some experience in life I only like and appreciate those who value me now. So , unfortunately women who fall for bad attitude do exist, but its only those who are incredibly insecure and have life lessons to learn
35:40 I think this brings up an interesting concept which is that there is physical attraction and emotional attraction. Someone's physical attraction generally goes up for me after I learn more about them/become friends/etc. I didn't think the man I married was the most physically attractive, but that didn't matter because I loved him and our conversations and inside jokes. Women DO end up with guys who are less attractive, the difference is in the act of willingly continuing the relationship, and not just enduring it because you're afraid of the consequence. Rachel is right; it's much better to wait, to grow familial or platonic love, than to go after a romance that degrades you into bits and pieces. I thought I would have to settle for someone, but things worked out. My husband absolutely loves me. He doesn't want to be with anyone else, and not because he doesn't believe he has another chance. He didn't collect me on his way to "conquest" a hotter lady. And all women deserve to be loved for who they are and not because they are 'bangable'.
this man makes me so glad to be a lesbian
Same here💚
Should my current relationship ever end, I am so ready to go for women only. Not that I don't enjoy being with a man but getting there is just ugh. Not once did I feel disrespected by a woman on a date even if the date was awkward or bad.
I am a totally straight woman amd you made me laugh.I it.Roosh is such a HORRIBLE person.I dont think its just his misogyny. Some men are misogyny.lite but he is SO extreme.He may also have a real case of Nsrcissistic Personality or Psychopathy.I may not be a lesbian Sis but if all men were like Roosh I woild just swear off men and stick to the Vibrator😝
I'd rather end up with a house full of cats then this man.
No human could compete with the company of a cat, though.
I’d rather end up in a house full of cockroaches than Roosh 😂
"anti depressant addiction" got lost in everything else. fuck that phrase in particular