when i am scolding my cats i wouldn’t be able to make my voice sound as dire and warning and loveless, and i wouldn’t want to, either. (and i don’t have to either, they usually respect tables and human food as out of bounds for them, the little cheeks) it’s unbelievably sick that someone can be so unfair and tantalizing with his very pregnant wife. his made up rules are so ridiculous, the point that she even tries to calm him down and tries to make a point with him instead of laughing at him and his stupid childish „rules“ goes to show how much he manipulated and frightened her to this point. no person in their right mind would take up with this, a lot must have been going on before this. the poor woman, she must have felt a lot of pressure to mask this disaster as a happy, functional marriage. 😢
It truly is amazing what some people will accept. The 2 women I know who have been in abusive relationships are both people I would describe as strong and smart. And they both got stuck for a time in bad relationships. It was scary to see.
Naw she married a monster. She was fine with how racist and vile he always was. She deserved everything that was coming. Nobody held a gun to her head and forced her to marry Steven Coward or fuck him and bear his children. She knew how viley racist he always was and chose that as her "eternal partner".
@@edvh88 manipulators have their entire life to practice. But good hearted people who havent encountered it (especially if they have anxiety) often get trapped to give those manipulators narcissistic supply. Anyone can fall prey to an abuser.
Just think what he was upset about...She didn't want to give his dog medicine because of a very good reason. This argument was because he can't take care of his own damn dogs.
If you think people who say bigoted, sexist sh*t on TV aren't abusing the people in their private life in the same way, this is a perfect example that they most likely are.
What comes out a man’s mouth lives in his heart. That’s in the Bible and I e never seen it not be true. Locker room talk isn’t just talk. When someone show you who they are BELIEVE THEM‼️
holy shit the way she is trying so hard to assert her boundaries while trying to prevent him from hurting her futher by constantly telling him "i love you" and this heartless, cruel inhumane person responds with "i dont love you". jesus.
If Steven had put even 1/4 of the self-control and determination it took for him to stay abstinent before marriage, into learning how not to be an abusive narcissist, his marriage might not have failed so horrendously.
Idk, after all this projection on his “happy marriage” and “respecting his wife, not like the other guys”, I kind of doubt he really lived up to that either
"My then wife decided that she didn't want to be married anymore, and in the state of Texas that is completely permitted." This really gives you a glimpse into how this would have gone if the law was on his side - that he would have refused to divorce her and kept her trapped and abused for as long as it pleased him. 🤮 I didn't know anything about him before this came out, but I heard that line and knew exactly the kind of scum he was (is).
I've seen many videos talking about him every now and then for the last few years and he's cruel to everyone all the time, even on his highly manicured show he's a petulant childish bully. Poor Hillary got the worst of it because he sees her as his property.
because they don't give you permission and THEY control your every move, thought and action, total control freaks. what this is, is.........when you do not control yourself and your own actions, you seek to control everyone and everything around you, that is how projection works. a true narcissist and woman hater........................his crew talked about how he would "lay his junk" on their shoulders or somewhere on their body.......who does that? someone closeted? perhaps. he hates women and has no respect for them that's for sure.........
My good freaking God, dude. Speaking as a married man, I can't believe this dude got married to someone he doesn't respect. My wife is an amazing, wonderful woman who could absolutely make it in life without me, and I consider it an honor and a privilege that she's let me be part of it. I could never imagine speaking to my wife the way he does. She is, in every way, my equal, and in some ways, my better. I hope to God she gets out of that marriage
I love that you said this. It is rare to hear people speak positively about their significant other. Rarer still to hear them speak with admiration you seem to here. Men, especially, get reviled as a "simp" for expressing any admiration for a woman.
@@Passions5555 men that call themselves straight but get mad at other straight men for liking women and wanting to be good partners to them I can’t help but wonder if they’re just secretly gay and want to be apart of the hookup scene but will never admit it
@@Passions5555 I'll simp for my wife till the sun goes cold. It truly does blow my mind that he can act like that to a woman he took vows with in front of God and everyone
>I'll simp for my wife til the sun goes cold Hard same dude. My wife is the smartest, most responsible person I know and the best communicator I've ever met, and a goddamn saint to put up with my alexythymic ass. We run a business together and she murders it (in a good way) every single day and levels me up like crazy.
A person like that never intends to have an equal partnership. Your attitude demonstrates the enthusiasm people will hopefully take into a lasting relationship built on shared respect and regard.
When he's complaining about how if she takes the car he can't go to the gym or see his parents, he quite literally sounds like a whiny, entitled toddler.
And he was post op and couldnt walk the dogs because he had to "rest" yet he wants to go to the gym xD i have met a person like him, but I am quick at thinking and responding, pointing out the contradictions in someone's speech, and I can tell you they hate that and sound more and more ridiculous trying to win the conversation, then they get angry and refuse to speak more. He is lucky she isnt that kind of a person because people would not only see him as an abuser, but as an idiot more clearly
@@mmgs1148 I’m the same way. Unfortunately some women like some of my friends, arnt so quick and only see where they could have responded after they’ve spoken to me about the argument. I think all women should learn how to defend themselves. It’s vital.
Also, if it's the case that way round, isn't that the case the other way round too? She would be boxed in the house if he took the car! His argument works against him too.
So much to unpack in Steven's language. The way he talks about "discipline and respect" as if talking about a child or a dog. The way he says "watch it" in response to her calling out his abusive behaviour. The controlling aspect of not having a second car. Telling her that she needs to become someone "worthy". The self-victimisation, both in the Ring footage and his response. Hillary is so calm and she's communicating clearly and reasonably the whole time. But nothing she could say in that moment would have gotten through because abuse is not reasonable. The way Steven is responding is not a rational or proportional response to what she's saying. It's scary to see.
The Ring camera video is disturbing (I’m so glad she has subsequently escaped the marriage even if she’s forever tied to Steven because of the children). However, Steven’s response video is equally disturbing. I’m disgusted with his delusion that he’s been victimized by his wife having the legal option of a “no fault” divorce. The reasonable inference from Steven’s response video is that he wanted to force her to remain in a marriage with him. Another speculation is that-in order to save face for his brand/audience-Steven leaned into the idea that his wife is to “blame” for the divorce that _she_ chose-not him. Both ideas can be true. He could be saving face as well as implying he wants to legally force his (now) ex-wife to remain married to him; each is monstrous. Steven’s mindset is so insanely dangerous and toxic, because he’s not just victimizing his family. He has social influence and public platforms to spread his blatant misogyny and abusive mentality.
he's out of control and probably has been for a very long time.......................I bet his past girlfriends know a thing or two....................hope his wife and the kids can move on far away and heal......
It's chilling to view that footage as the product of so many topics you've covered in the past. "Wifely duties", gender roles, submitting to one's husband...this is what the values of people like the Transformed Wife and the Pearls looks like in practice.
@@zekayman NO DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS. I grew up with parents that tried to fake it. It is so insanely obvious that they dont like each other. I have immense trauma from the emotional outbursts and arguments my parents did because they wouldnt divorce.
@@zekayman Isn't that reasoning vulnerable to a selection bias or two? As in, the deaths of a parent would cut into the household wealth, which is tied to improved socio-economic outcomes. And also one of the leading causes of all relationships ending, including marriages, is money troubles... so like how could preventing a divorce help a household from having their wealth cut whenever money disputes were the problem to begin with? It's fine that you understand how to promote economic outcomes which lead to better socio-economic outcomes for the next generation, but the way you outlined it is just as much of an argument _discouraging marriages that don't include some amount of economic counseling to prevent an unstable economic pairing from ever enduring the conflict of divorce_ as it is an argument _promoting an delayed divorce w/o any economic counseling_ to promote marital stability.
Notice it's only when the wife is suffering and being treated bad they're are people saying she should tough it out for the kids but when it's the husband, they get all emotional say a marriage should be built on love and not disrespect blah blah blah.
@Kevin Jacobson bro no. Maybe if you just no longer have that "spark" sure. Stick it out if you can. But put your children thru living with an abusive father? No. Don't do this. Also better outcomes could come from single parents if we supported them better with things like free childcare, allowing foodstamps to be used for diapers, etc.
Dude after hearing him say “watch it” I immediately was like ohhhh this is not good. As someone who was raised by a man who did this to me and also an an anthropologist who has studied the way men use language (in the west/America) to appear powerful it’s chilling to see this video. I hope that she gets out of this situation and that this piece of crap human being never finds another woman to terrorize.
@@warlordofbritannia I cannot imagine a good man with good intentions saying that. I cannot imagine a scenario in which I would say that, for instance, unless my partner was walking inattentively on the edge of a cliff or something.
@@CJMGalaxy lol hey that plane over there's landing in the river watch it hey the trash cans keep getting knocked over can u watch it its not a bad saying it's like the British saying init which just means its gonna happen just like this video hey this chicken made a new video watch it lol but to u thats a terrible saying we should instead say her that new video can u perhaps take a gander at it
The worst part of all this is how unsurprising it is. A notorious racist, misogynistic, narcissistic POS is also a terrible private person? It’s less a confirming of what we already knew but a continuation.
As we leftists/progressives like to say, every accusation by rightwingers, and especially their extremists, is a confession, and Chowder has so happily confessed all these many many years.
the worst part for me is how many people chose to work for him. someone who portrays themselves like that and are now acting surprised/trying to expose him.... not that they don't deserve basic human respect but like they are not that much better than him for aligning themselves with someone like that in the first place. i hate to sound like a victim blamer but my empathy runs super low for racists/hom0phobes/misogynists - so what did they expect?
@@pinguufuuuu I’ve come to find that a lot of people who fancy themselves part of a “natural” hierarchy that lazily places them near the top all too often feel like they don’t have any other source of dignity outside of being above those placed beneath. Which leads to a bizarre bargain where they accept being harmed in exchange for the worthless consolation prize of _well at least the subhumans below me have it worse, I get to harm them cuz I’m cooler!_ Which is all to say that what they expected is “that it’d be worth it somehow” & “I’ll never get it as bad as *they* get”
He hides behind the title of comedian just like so many other third-rate comedians these days. I've given up watching Live at the Apollo even though occasionally, there is a gem like Jack Whitehouse or at least someone with potential among a lot of dead beat comedians who use the stage to rant and rave. 'Comedy' is just their cover. I didn't like Romesh Ranganathan at first as I didn't like his sardonic delivery but he was good in a relatively straight role in King Gary as the down to earth neighbour who refuses to get involved in Gary's hare brained schemes.
Naw she married a monster. She was fine with how racist and vile he always was. She deserved everything that was coming. Nobody held a gun to her head and forced her to marry Steven Coward or fuck him and bear his children. She knew how viley racist he always was and chose that as her "eternal partner".
There's something so chilling about seeing that video evidence of him being nasty and intentionally hurtful to his apparent life partner, then immediately followed by him pretending to be calm and understanding and hurt about the situation. This is EXACTLY why abusers get away with this stuff. They can turn on their pretend caring, kicked puppy routine like a light switch.
It's very bitterly ironic that Crowder started his career voicing Brain on Arthur. His behaviour really just shows not only doesn't he live up to Brain's intelligence, he also didn't learn any of the moral lessons that show teaches. It's right there in the theme song, Steve!
@@gayghostprince yes. I firmly believe it's one of the reasons he thinks he's not racist. "How can I be racist when I voiced a black coded character decades ago?"
As someone who lived with their now spouse for 8 years as just roommates before we dated and got married, a major piece of advice I'd give people who plan to marry - *do not marry someone who you haven't lived at least six months with.* If you can't live with them that long with minimal issues, then I beg of you, don't get married. Thankfully, my spouse and I are doing fine. It's like nothing changed with us.
I don't see how people don't do that much of a trial run first. Personally I'd wanna do a full year minimum so we can see how we do in each season too..
Nah. I'm sorry that was your experience but many couples never live together and do fine. It's all about mentality, maturity and communication. Dating taught me how to find men who were respectful and who could communicate. I didn't have to live with them to spot red flags.
@@Nicole-bg2ly I think they were talking more about compatability than red flags. Someone can be a wonderful partner, but if you don't click when it comes to your home preferences, you might not be well-suited to living together without anyone being wrong
Seriously. I was with someone for two years before moving in together and immediately it became clear that they NEVER wanted company (I loved having people over and my social life suffered because they’d have meltdowns over it), they hated the music I loved listening to and singing along with, and a few other things that tampered my general enjoyment of life. I would have just stayed in my tiny space on my own if I’d known ahead of time. Thank goodness we weren’t married!
this guy is effing gross with his "in the state of texas that's how it goes" or whatever in regards to his wife choosing to divorce him. He's really implying he would rather be able to say "no" and then she wouldn't be *allowed* to divorce him. wtf.
yeah ive seen way too many conservatives express a very similar sentiment recently I'm honestly so terrified makes me not want to get married even more then I already do
Cuz he knows how hard it would be to find another woman who can tolerate him long enough to get married, they all do, deep down, and it's one of the biggest reasons they're fighting tooth and nail to change that law. It'd be one of the things they focus on if they get their way with abortion. It's sickening and dystopian imo. Handmaid's tale levels of tragic
I've never seen someone so openly arrogant and abusive, yet maintain such a raging persecution complex until I heard of Steven. He is what happens when you stop learning at 15 and just become a raging alcoholic. I'm so glad Ms. Ex - C is a free woman, I wish her a safe and relaxed rest of her pregnancy, and I hope her and those little ones are protected from him. There must be a collective sigh of relief from a house in Texas right now.
That tendency is obvious even in the old articles he wrote. All those vague allusions to how he's allegedly being oppressed for his abstinence. He's so eager to judge and ridicule everyone else, to tell strangers all about what their private lives should be like, but he wants to pretend he's the victim while he's doing it. He wants to pretend he's just trying to live his life and mind his own business while *you* accost *him* as he lectures and ridicules total strangers.
She was finished with her pregnancy of her twins prior to the divorce he didn’t attend the birth of his children and prior to her leaving the hospital he moved out of the home and cut her off financially.
Regarding comprehensive sex ed: Rachel hit most of the high points, but there's another major benefit that we see in kids who get comprehensive sex ed versus those who are taught abstinence-only versions: They become sexually active at an older age. Conservatives like to think that teaching young people about sex is what makes them have sex. This is untrue, and it appears that the opposite is more likely. Along with lower risks of pregnancy and STIs, kids who receive comprehensive sex ed have sex for the first time at an older age, presumably because they're more aware of the risks and pitfalls than their more ignorant abstinence-only peers.
For some reason in The Netherlands there's now a substream of people who are also getting riled up over "sexual education at to early an age will make children commit acts of sex earlier than we would want to!!!" and I continue to try and point out that even if that would be the case (which as research has indeed shown, is not the case), if those people would not rather want those children to at least have some sense of what they are doing... I use the same argument by the way when it comes to sexual education for children aged 5-8, which tends to limit itself to things like: knowing the right names for body parts, learning that there will be situations in which someone will have to touch some of them (like in a doctor's appointment) and that there are also moments at which this is not appropriate, age-related peers or not, and that it's good to teach them something about bodily autonomy. These people never seem to understand that the risks of not educating children about their bodies at a young age risks them being unable to voice the possibility of sexual abuse happening to them because they literally don't know or are not using the right words against an adult that they might trust and tell about what happens. (Those same people are also unfortunately the same kind who are now believing the trans-panic thing in my country as well, and have reasoned that all trans people are pedophiles, and trying to point out to them that this is dangerous because it not only risks more harm being caused to transpeople, it also causes a huuuuge risk that if they indeed teach their children that kind of moral, these children might focus so heavily on "who looks a bit different" that the person with actual wrong intentions who "doesn't look like a trans" is capable of doing actual damage. This unfortunately is a viewpoint that rarely ever comes across.)
It has always seemed fairly intuitive to me that this should be the case. An obviously dishonest, Mean Girls style "You *will* get pregnant, and you *will* die" is simply not something that deserves much consideration or thought. A best effort realistic assessment of risks and ways to mitigate them is, for lack of a better term... just... scarier.
@@Dutch3DMaster There is a part of me that thinks it makes sense that the far right would be opposed to children and young people being able to recognize and report sexual abuse.
I'll bet a lot of us were watching that backyard video wondering, "Why doesn't she point out that it makes so much more sense for him to medicate the dog himself??? He doesn't exactly look busy!" My guess is that she learned the hard way, a long time ago, not to do that.
Honestly she learned that even in the short clip. She was like the abuse is insane and he immediately responds with watch it not even questioning it lmao
yeah she had a defensive pose and kept her distance from him and the way he spoke sounded like he was threatening to hit her (like he'd done it before)
I mean... Im seeing a Guy who complains about Not being able to visit his parents if His wife buys groceries. And somehow buying groceries violates her wifely duties. As If they couldnt agree on a time for her to get Back so He can See His parents. Or that she could drop him off at His parents and then go on to buy groceries. And yes, im aware that the parents Thing is a strawman. He doesnt Look Like He Had any Plans, it sounds like he Just wants the OPTION to have a plan. Using Logic on that man didnt enter my head for even one second because... Whats the Point of using Logic on someone who clearly isnt interested in practical solutions AT ALL.
not only that but the meds for the dog could harm the babies because she is pregnant. so he says he wants to protect children, yet he is trying to force his wife into a dangerous situation for his unborn twins. disgusting. he tells her to just put on gloves. he doesnt care about his wife or kids
I just want to point out something. Steven, my husband and I did not wait till marriage we did shack up with each other we did live with each other for 4 years prior to us getting married. it was absolutely inconsequential to our relationship. It didn't affect us in a negative way whatsoever. We could see each other and hang out with each other as often as we wanted to. We spend our time supporting each other and strengthening our relationship and ensuring that the other person was the person we wanted to stay with. You can use team-building exercises to strengthen the team but more importantly to see if that team is going to be successful. Sometimes, no matter how hard you try that team just isn't an appropriate fit and it's never going to work out. Us living together and working together showed us that we had an effective team. Steven you are a year older than the both of us but we still got married before you did in 2010 and we are still married now. We've been together for 17 years and married for thirteen, you couldn't even last a decade because you already started divorce proceedings in 2021 and that's the point when your marriage failed. Obviously the two of you waiting until marriage didn't mean s*** because you still failed. You want to try to pretend that you have the better method but your method absolutely failed. Good job. You didn't do it right because your methods still failed.
hubby and i had sex on the first date. we lived together for five years before we married. our relationship lasted 40 years until death did us part (his, not mine). we win.
@@page8301 it definitely is important because I'm like what Christians try to pretend were talking about we're not talking about something that you can learn to do because you don't really learn to have a sexuality
I grew up in a home with an abusive father and that video put every nerve I have on high alert. I'm glad she decided to leave him, because it never gets better, only worse.
Same here. While watching this, I suddenly felt like I was 10 years old again and fighting my dad with all the anger I could muster. I just want to come through the screen and dish out crowder’s shit right back to him.
"She wanted out of the marriage and the law says that's allowed" "I picked wrong" This man baby has clearly never been told no and has been brought up to think he can always get his own way and always "win" what a loony, glad his wife left and exposed him, god knows how bad the rest of her life would have been stuck to that narcissistic nut
I also find it supremely annoying that he whines about the fact that, "..but in the state of Texas, my beliefs don't matter!" Like, yes, Steven, that's the whole point of separation of church and state? Your Christian beliefs literally do NOT matter in a court of law. I love that they are always for the separation of church and state when it comes to demanding the federal government mind its own business instead of breaking up religious cults and the like, but when it comes to things like this, they expect Draconian, fundie based arbitration??? Pick a laaaaane.
sorry this is off topic from the video but oh my god I love your style so much. You look fantastic in every video, and I am obsessed with the poofy shirt, it's so cool. thank you for making videos I always really appreciate your insights into things and the way you talk about them is very well stated and enjoyable to listen to ^^
I wish I watched this video before my wedding night and tried too force myself too jump into sex after being celibate until then. It caused a massive panic attack and in the end we couldn’t do it that night because of that. I don’t regret waiting, it was right for us (doesn’t mean it’s right for everyone) but I regret trying too force myself to do something I wasn’t ready for. Everyone who plans too wait should watch this video and decide what’s really right for them.
Crowder was right about one thing in those old articles: his now ex-wife was certainly way out of his league. I hope she's able to move on from this traumatic period of her life, although we all know that Steven's not going to make that easy for her. Abusers can't stand losing, after all.
I can not tell you how utterly devastating it is to know you have put every fiber of your being into loving someone, and they tell you they have never felt loved. It's so unbelievably cruel 💔
That ring camera was so upsetting. As someone who was in an abusive relationship i recognize every tactic he uses in that video. It completely activated my fight or flight response, it is so terrifying
The idea that there are people actively surprised he is a nasty person off-camera was also really disgusting. I mostly felt like "This is not coming from somewhere, this is not just someone pretending to be an awful person. If you are surprised now you clearly were under the impression that it's much better if someone is a blatant racist, misogynist and transphobe on camera, but that having that same behavior off-camera is the real crime..." I was mostly also really appalled about how "concerned" he is for the safety of his children which next to the fact he didn't care about the toxin he wanted his wife to handle is also pretty apparent from the fact that if it is his children, it's really important, but if it's other people's transchildren, they need to be taught a lesson (bomb threating a hospital that obviously doesn't treat just transchildren alone, threatening parents, teachers, doctors with jailtime and fines and removal from medical care by revoking the license of doctors and teachers). It's just so pathetic that his children deserve "safety", but no other child that does something or has parents that allow it to do something that does not align with his world view is allowed the same thing. Underneath some video's, I've previously (before this came to light) been trying to point out to people that someone who as the adult man he is is so venomously hating transchildren, stops being a bully, and is actively a monster. It turns out that could not be further from the truth. Again, not surprised, but I'm afraid there will be people defending him regardless...
@@Dutch3DMaster Right! Because the people that watch him are probably the same in their beliefs and harmful attitudes and don’t want to admit who they truly are themselves. Or they are in some serious denial and ignorance!! People will excuse things he says are jokes and not a big deal when really they are incredibly harmful and even applied in worse ways off camera, which you’re right…should be no surprise. He is absolutely not concerned with his own children which is apparent through his actions and frankly he is only concerned with his own ego and public image. He clearly doesn’t even view women and his own former wife as a real person, along with anyone who isn’t a cis white male like himself. What horrified me the most was his statement following the divorce where he summed up the situation as “him choosing wrong” the complete lack of awareness and accountability for his own wrong doing and shifting the blame to his ex wife that she was simply the wrong choice just shows how much of a disgusting narcissist he is. I guess the right choice for him would be someone who isn’t able to hold him accountable and is entirely submissive and removed from his horrible personality, character, and abuse. I feel awful for his children and frankly anyone he has abused throughout his life, as I’m sure it’s not exclusive to his former wife and kids. Absolutely revolting.
I have two theories about why he keeps calling people floozies. Theory One: he has the mentality of a boy on the playground, weasel-wording his way around using a “naughty word” - he feels smug about “ooooh, I called you an insult but it’s not technically on the list of words that would get me sent to the principal, so you can’t do anything about what I did say, I’m so clever, aren’t I???” And Theory Two: he found a word he liked once upon a time and is too lazy to bother expanding his vocabulary as long as the same old term can still be pressed into use, regardless of whether it quite fits contextually.
Actually it's because he only uses slurs from the 1880's ish, you have to extremely hateful to do this. Either purposefully taught or researched. Imagine the most hateful a person can be. Crowder is worse. Imagine a pre-American civil war slave baron, but they have to pretend to be a normal person today.
Him saying "kids need a mom and a dad" is not only a red flag for kids raised by same sex parents or single parents, but it also gives me the impression that he's just going to bow out of their lives and refuse to coparent now that they're divorced.
This also doesn't get brought up a lot, but in that security clip, he also basically tells her to take the dogs for a walk. A heavily pregnant woman, with twins, walking at least two large pitbulls. Now, those pitbulls seem well behaved at least (when they're hanging around at home) but I really don't see what's so "traditional family values" about making your pregnant wife do physical labor like that. If a woman's job is to make baby (ick) then why wouldn't her task while she's in the final stages of that to...sit on the couch and do nothing? Pregnant women have enough problems with sore feet and ankles without dragging around two dogs for an hour. Also, he is such a pos. Whining about how she's the bad guy for going out to do chores while he sits at home and _might_ want to do something while she's gone.
Don't forget that this is summer - so he wanted his wife, heavily pregnant with a high risk pregnancy, to walk two large dogs, in the Texas summer. Did he WANT her to go into labour??
Could be that way the kids would have survived but she wouldnt have. Our glorious church leaders told us that dying in pregnancy is glorious and a way to serve both husband and God. Dying is glorifing Christs sacrifice on the cross and being forgiven for the eternal sins of eve with blood atonement. If something goes wrong you may not be able to serve your husband as before and your better off dying. So with that in mind........what do you think?
Growing up in the mormon church pregnant women got no extra rest. It was considered a natural and easy thing to be pregnant so why would the woman need rest? They didn't even want you to rest between pregnancies so you could have a better survival chance and healthier child. One child a year was heavily praised.
@@amberinthemist7912 While the grandma of my dad's side was not a member of the Mormon church, she used to be religious up until the beginning of the 1980's (in the Netherlands by the way). When her daughter suffered 2 miscarriages a pastor one day knocked on their door with the question/remark about increasing the amount of family, and "why it's taking so long for there to be babies in this home" (there was a housing crisis here so her daughter was living at home). My grandma was a very easy-going person, but that day she felt a boiling rage inside, slammed the door in his face and immediately made sure afterwards to cancel her membership from said church forever. She was furious that he even dared to ask such a question and not be a bit more cautious about the subject at hand (especially because of the fact that it was known things were not going well for her daughter, pregnancy-wise).
Stephen seems to operate under the classic shitty man doctrine of "would have sex with any woman who looked at him for half a second too long" and assumes most other people operate the same, completely disregarding that people are human beings who are not just attracted to anybody. His way of choosing a wife was not to chose a partner. He chose the one he perceived as bringing him the most status and then he treated her like an accessory to his life and is surprised she left him. Him saying "I picked wrong" is the ultimate conclusion of that. The frustrating thing is that he's so far lost in this way of life that he'll never see what actually went wrong.
Thank you for stating that people can choose to be celibate, to be in non marital or non cohabiting relationships or to be married. And choose whether to have children or not. I don't want to be part of any group, circle of friends or organisation where the pressure is on me to be married, not married, dating, have children and so on. It's my life not theirs to live. It's why I walked away so often from people, workplaces, social groups and organisations. Being celibate isn't always detrimental to your mental health if that's what you choose for yourself. I had female 'friends' who put pressure on me to have casual sex because I wasn't in a relationship. I didn't need them in my life. Much of it was because they were consuming pornography in order to keep up in their sex lives with their lovers, boyfriends or husbands. Mainstream media through pop songs, celeb stories in newspapers and magazines and rom coms are also responsible for pushing romance and relationships onto people by saying that a certain person has 'found happiness' meaning that they had found a partner. But somebody could find happiness by finding good friends, finding a dream job, getting a pet or buying a house in a neighbourhood they like to live in.
I chose celibacy as a non religious person and had to dump sooooo many friends because they outright bullied me for my choice. I'm now happily married for over 4 years. We are very happy and waited for sex so boo on those who bullied me to make THEIR choices and not my own
The story of Josh Duggar's weddingnight is insane nightmarefuel. His wife had no sexual education and then had to spend her weddingnight with that monster. That girl had no idea of what sex was, had a lifelong experience of insane hiërarchie based on submissivenes and then had to have sex with a predator. There was no consent there.
And yet she still stands by him even after everything. I wish she would wake up already, but I understand it's hard to when that's how she's been raised her whole life.
He also lied about it being his wife's choice to divorce him (so he can keep his Christian/purity points in the minds of his fans who care about that I guess?) Because apparently he hired a lawyer first. He's just so thoroughly digusting on every level
That security cam was very troubling. A classic case study of gaslighting. He sounds like a spoilt manchild but with a terrible temper. Amazing how calm she was considering...
@@marloeslovestea You're probably not far from the truth. A part of me wants to ask her, you are clearly a better, mature person than he is, why do you put up with his venom and danger? And the answer is probably that damnable toxic religion holding people together through the pithy "for better or worse" claptrap.
dang, I've been busting my butt working for the past ten years when I could have just been a "live in harlot"?? Why did nobody tell me this was an option?? lmao
37:00 the way he's talking to his wife on the Ring footage is so upsetting! That "watch it" really pisses me off, honestly. That's how I talk to my cat when he's about to do something he knows he shouldn't. I can't imagine addressing another person like that. Also holy shit, just flat out saying he doesn't love her....glad she got out.
He doesn't love her just because she didn't want to give his dog medicine that could harm a developing baby or walk 2 large pit bulls. Dude should marry his dogs. 😂
@@kristinfrostlazerbeams He doesn't love his dogs either or he'd be the person insiting on giving them their medicine. He would want to be the one that knew they got it for sure. The dogs are just another possession to him just like she is. He doesn't see either of them as living things deserving of empathy because he's an abusive narcissistic piece of shit.
I grew up watching my father abuse my mother verbally, emotionally, and psychologically. He got help and we are now a happy family, but I will never forget the feeling that I got when I watched him tear my mother down and put her back together the way he wanted her. It’s like ice being poured into your veins, slowly spreading until your entire body is crying out that this feels wrong, followed by a hard pit in your stomach that aches because you couldn’t do more, didn’t do more. It has been years since I last felt that sting, and this isn’t even the first time I’ve seen the Crowder argument vid, but for the first time in by now some years, I felt ice in my veins. How Crowder spoke to his wife is scarily similar to how my father, an ex-drug addict, ex-alcoholic, ex-cheater, ex-monster, made the most kind woman I have ever known wish she were dead. What a legacy to leave to a son. Hopefully he gets help, like my father did. My father is a good man who had been warped and calloused by a world that told him his mental health didn’t matter, and that how he dealt with his mental health didn’t matter. He got help because beneath the disgusting man I knew for most of my life there was a scared boy who believed he had to suspend his empathy. For Crowder, suspension of empathy is a virtue. I hope he gets help, but for these people there is no moving on unless they cast off the fascist mind disease that nearly took my father away from me from drug abuse and that could have taken my mother away, could have made me take my life. Feminism is the only option, the only salvation from a world full of scarred boys like me and my father.
I wish my father would get help. I told both my parents in the calmest and most respectful way possible that everyone can benefit from therapy. But my father is too prideful to do it.
My mother stayed because he manipulated her and she didn’t know anything else. Divorce was never an option because me and my mother were deep in Christianity as a coping mechanism- the kind of Christianity that makes you see your struggles as necessary and even indicative of blessing from God for being strong enough.
Their marriage is happy now and my father is working hard being the husband he never was. While I am no longer religious, my mother still holds religious beliefs, though her exposure to my secularism and my father’s more secular religiosity moderates her vulnerability to the extremities of the environment she teaches in. (She is a teacher at my old Christian school.)
Imagine being on a plane after your wedding night and having to read your newly-minted hubby relentlessly obsess about everyone else's relationship. That woman was much more resilient than we give her credit for.
Thing is... I have a father who has issues with his temper, and whose actions might sometimes be verbally/emotionally abusive. And sometimes he'll focus on something like Steven here. He'll start with the idea that someone has to do something, and he'll keep insisting on it and get enraged -- no matter how valid their reasons not to do it, no matter if it can be done at a better time, no matter if they aren't the best person to do it. And when I'm around him, to some degree I get like that too, and I hate it about myself so much -- and when I'm away from that apartment with him, I never, ever feel like that. It's so terrifying to me that people take a man like that seriously instead of acknowledging that he needs a fuckton of therapy and that he hurts people around him.
3:02 I’ve seen people criticize his “comedy.” Tbh the moment you showed his face I recognized him and was like- not surprised he’s a shit person. I hope the wife is healing though. As a victim of abuse from my father and brother- I can only imagine how that shit must’ve been like.
This situation is horrific. My husband and I have been 5 years married. We married young and fast and we got a lot of backlash, we dismiss it because we knew people married young and old, that didn’t work out , also people that married soon or after many years of dating, that didn’t work out. So we understood trends were trends and we weren’t just an statistic. The reason we knew our marriage was going to work is because we communicate often and honestly about everything, we knew each other really well, our values , our differences, our hopes and dreams, our boundaries and ways of communicating with each other. We’ve seen together the crowder situation and we were shocked, even in a big disagreement we will never talk to each other that way. “I don’t love you” “watch it” “wifely duties”… horrible
Hubs and I got together at 16. Married at 19. 41 years old now with two boys. We were told by almost everyone that we wouldn't last. I wish you many years of happiness! ❤
Steven Crowder is a terrible human being! I was scared for his wife when he was yelling at her and followed her into the house at the end of that video! Him complaining that she doesn't do her "wifely duties" as well as saying that she needs to be a "worthy wife", asking her "How does she respect the man", and telling her that "she needs to have discipline and respect". I mean the woman was 8 months pregnant, for God's sake! Also, I'm asexual and aromantic. Thanks for the "if you never want to have sex in your life, that's ok!" bit! I don't want to ever get married and I'll probably die a virgin! I tried kissing men and women and didn't like it, nor did I like touching people! That's why I think it's so important to experiment! I always had romantic and sexual fantasies about characters from my favorite TV shows, and I couldn't understand why I didn't like men or women in real life, but eventually, I understood that I am on the spectrum of asexuality, where I like the platonic idea of love and have a healthy libido (so, I'm thankful for sex toys)!
Yeah :D He's completely disregarding women are people, so he picked the one that he thought would bring him the most status, doesn't have any real feelings, treats her like an accessory and abuses her and then is surprised she leaves. The audacity of this idiot 🤦♀
Guys like Crowder hang onto the “marry NOW or you’ll die alone” schtick for dear life when we! Are! All! Dying! Alone! Decades and decades of the same whiny phrase when reality is right fucking there
If they were to get their wish to get no-fault divorce abolished, then there’s no protection for women who cannot leave a husband who acts however he wants because he knows she can’t leave him. There’s no incentive for him to be a dutiful & worthy husband. At least now, a woman has an out whenever she wishes which is the consequence for a husband not holding up his end of the contract.
This got me thinking about men who complain about divorces and/or child support which tells me everything I need to know about them as a person. If you complain about those kind of things, then you’re just an immature brat who doesn’t want to take responsibility and face the consequences of your actions. These kind of men deserve everything that comes at them
@@starstorm1267 I agree… My father was one of them. After we ran away from him due to domestic violence, my mom had no way to prove that he earned a lot of money because he was getting paid cash. The judge assigned him the minimum child support which he rarely paid on time to punish my mom. When we began to communicate when I was older, he would tactlessly complain to me that these payments were a headache…All while he gave his new family everything.
I may have missed, but do you know *he* was the one to retain divorce counsel first according to the reporting? I think one of the most despicable things is his attempt to cast her as the instigator of their separation, though she'd have been entirely correct to have done so. Narcissistic men instantly playing the victim is nothing new, but seeing it in 4k is always eye-opening.
Those couple of minutes of video were short but said a lot. He was smoking in front of her 8 months pregnant wife, that says he don't care about her health of the babies. He's a multimillionaire and share the same car, likely to control where and when she goes out, he's berating her, even said he doesn't love her, so he likely berates her at other times, She's doing house chores, again he can pay for that so she can rest at least until she gets to delivery. Even there's people that is defending him saying we don't know the "context" i'm quite sure that a bigger frame would make him look even more of a douche than he already is.
I know this is off topic, but it’s so sweet when Kyra is looking up at you while you’re talking, and I can just see so much love in her eyes for you! There is truly no love and affection that is like a dog’s! ❤
53:08 All I can think at the moment is how "well" ditching one's wife and child with the hope that they will suffer from his lack of presence actually turned into the escape my mom needed since despite the abuse she was still too worried that she couldn't survive without my father until she no longer had a choice. 2 years later HE was the one crawling back to Mom who by then had a sustainable and new home and at the first sign he was slipping into his abusive ways she could confidently kick him out for the safety of herself and her children. Technically she wasn't divorced until 10 years later but again that was due to her wanting to protect us from being forced to spend time with our father regardless of how we felt about it. We were never banned from interacting with him, it was always his choice on whether he wanted to visit us, however she wasn't going to put us in situations that would leave us vulnerable to harm if she can find a way to make it safer for us. We still had enough experience of what he was like for all three of us to each have our own reason not to want to continue a relationship with him by the time of the divorce. And since she had been supporting us without his financial assistance, he didn't even have to pay child support (she didn't want to spend her life "looking over her shoulder" in case he isn't able to afford to pay and takes drastic measures.) At 68, this so-called Christian man could be dead, alive, in Canada, or in Jamaica and my siblings, mother, and I would have no idea which.
I got married to my wife 31 years ago. I married her because I love her. She married me because she loves me. We lived together for three years before we got married. I knew that I wanted to spend my life with her and I still know this to be true. We chose not to have children much to the frowning dislike of my mother who wanted her ‘grand children’ and took me to one side to inform me of my ‘duty’ to the family!! I tried to explain to her that this would never happen and was treated like some failure for not producing. I married my wife to ‘live and be with her’ and to my family this does not compute. My mother actually said to me: ‘who will go to your funeral if you don’t have kids?’ My response was - ‘I don’t care who or who doesn’t go to my funeral’ as I am an atheist. I didn’t marry her so that she could produce children. We committed to each other and no one or nothing else. We are very happy together. I’ve split from my mother who just couldn’t accept that I was happy with my life loving just one woman.
The idea that what prevents someone from cheating is "self control" is so awful lmao. Like, I wouldn't need to "control myself" to not cheat on my girlfriend, because I would have no desire to cheat on my girlfriend
When my dad was in his abusive rage, the worst thing you could do would be to call him out on it. If my mom ever said: your abuse is sick…, it would not end with ‘“watch it”’or even “fucking watch it.” When he said “watch it”, my skin crawled.
hey rachel! i have been following you for literal years now, and just another video like this really make me smile when i see how much you've changed and become more comfortable in yourself. YOU are GLOWING and thats fantastic! well spoken, intelligent, and fantastic advocate for what matters most ! keep being awesome! XxX
I’d wage $50 that when he said they were “laughed at” for saving physical stuff for marriage, he really means “people said they didn’t agree with me and it hurt my feelings.” Or they didn’t say anything at all and he’s just trying to make himself sound like some cultural warrior.
When I was in my 20s I had an old friend from my childhood church mention out of no where that he and his fiancee were waiting for marriage. I made a totally crazy face and laughed nervously. Because that's really strange information to share without prompting. I'm sure it was something like that, not that people were laughing at the principles themselves.
I'm so used to reading stories where characters have trajectories and they grow and they change and they learn that I think I've really internalized this idea that when you see someone like Stephen, this is just a blip in their life and some day they will watch this back and feel so ashamed for their behavior. Now that I'm in my 30s, I've learned that its extremely rare that anyone changes. Look anyone from your past up on facebook. They've all gotten worse. People just become more radical over time, as they seek out people that share their beliefs and won't listen to anyone who doesn't. It doesn't matter how many people call Stephen "abusive." He thinks he's doing the right thing by trying to control his wife and make her serve him. It may be religiously motivated, but (having dated an atheistic narcissist) I think it's just narcissism. It's really sad because I don't think that he's happy. Obviously its much worse for his wife and his kids, but I don't think it's ultimately good for him either. All narcissism is overcompensation for a lack of self-confidence, and this man has so little faith in his own ability to be a good husband that he'd rather trap his wife by making divorce illegal than ever entertain the idea of working on himself. Madness. Even if he doesn't learn anything from this, I hope him being turned into a laughing stock teaches other people how not to be.
So she’s very pregnant and wants something from the food store, but he wants her to walk and medicate the dogs while he sits there, and maybe he’ll go to the gym or his parents or his friends , leaving her there without a car, and he’ll bring the groceries when he gets back. Yeah, a very chivalrous family man
Idk if the vid mentions it but the dog medicine is also very toxic to women that are pregnant and can harm unborn babies He would rather see his wife get very ill, miscarriage, her twins have health issues at birth, and anything else that could happen from it than just .. * checks notes * not being a literal asshole child mentally and just medicating his own pets himself
But yeah I agree he’s a total dick so who’s surprised he’s a horrible husband and I’m surprised she even let him plan to have kids when he can’t even raise an animal, if you can’t take care of houseplants or a pet Steven why should we believe you can take care of and nurture a growing human being? smh
@@Bootystank99659 it’s so easy to act out masculinity by being aggressive and overly sexual, but it’s equally masculine to be chivalrous and selfless. It’s just not as much fun so it’s less popular.
Oh no no, HE wants something from the grocery store (grilling stuff), but she hasn't done the dangerous chores, so he's making sure she knows that she doesn't get the PRIVILEGE of going to the grocery store FOR him. She has to earn the right to do anything and prove she loves him through mounting impossible, dangerous or unpleasant tasks. In his head, of course. 🤢 She handled the situation like a pro, and I'm so glad, like me, she's out safely. I always knew he was a piece of shit, but I used to have a higher tolerance, obviously.
The interesting thing about Crowder, or at least the way i read it: When he says "It was not my decision" while complaining about no fault divorce he says "Her leaving me is harmfull to me. I can not function without her". Of course the worst thing in this is the attack on her personal freedom. But it also shows how insecure the guy is, how dependant on someone else to take care of him. I think he has some serious unresolved issues, besides him beeing an A
Hey, I actually read Crowder's "Getting Married the Right Way" article like ten years ago, and I also made the exact same comment of "how do we know that it wasn't awkward for his wife? He didn't factor in her experience at all." I remember that I came across it when the stfuconservatives tumblr responded to it, but I didn't realize that it was by Steven Crowder.
I’m trying to figure out a rational reason that he couldn’t give the dogs the medicine or take them on a walk, and then I have to remember that this is not a rational person. This is someone who believes women are to be servants to men. He just wants to be able to sit around smoking and not have to do jack shit.
I think I remember reading an old “study” which was really more of a poll, about how abstinence leads to more successful marriages, but the “successful” aspect was simply staying married, not happiness, not love, just not divorcing. And the problem is the same religious people who would practice abstinence before marriage, are the same people who are shamed by their religion for divorce.
This is the takeaway to have, IMO. Like, people like it when he preaches those values, but seeing them in practice on that video looks pretty fuckin bad, doesn't it? That is logically and ideologically consistent with his stated worldview and values.
@@CJMGalaxy no its not. "I will never badmouth my wife" "I don't love you" "watch it (or ill fuck you up)" This is hypocritical. He abused his wife while swearing hed never.
So, according to him, not waiting til marriage doesn't work. But, in light of recent events, clearly, waiting til marriage? To quote Stevie boy himself: "That doesn't work eeeiiitherrrr!!!" 😂😂😂
I had to heave a big sigh watching those videos of them talking to each other. It’s infuriating that he’s sitting so casually while he says such hurtful things to her. I just wanted to go protect her. She seemed so alone and without support. 🥺
Unfortunately, I don't think the wifely duties comment was meaning she was failing to perform them by 'trapping' him in the house with no car. I got the impression he was actually saying she wouldn't get the reward of the car "because you refuse to do wifely things'' (providing him with sex while nine months pregnant). It definitely sounded like he was angry she didnt want to have sex with him to me
People who don't think single party divorce shouldn't be allowed are disgusting. Its marriage, not slavery.
people who voices free speech , freedom, common sense the most, actually the complete and total opposite of what they're preaching
People who don't think it should be allowed are people who intend to keep their spouse captive...
and he thinks the man should be in charge so really he's just advocating to take rights away from everyone and give extra rights to himself
One too many negatives bud but, from context, I can see what you mean.
Only someone with pretty sick motives would want to be in a relationship with someone who doesn't want to be in one with them anymore
“Watch it watch it” in response to her using the word “abuse”. Abuse- counselor Lundy Bancroft says that abusers flip out about the word abuse.
exactly, and the tone that he used while saying "watch it" being the same as many use to scold a dog really says a lot about how he views her
my ex used to FLIP and get loud and go "dont you EVER say that word to me, dont you dare EVER. you are psycho, you dont DARE say that to me."
@@depressednymph4421 yup. He probably calls her a female dog
when i am scolding my cats i wouldn’t be able to make my voice sound as dire and warning and loveless, and i wouldn’t want to, either. (and i don’t have to either, they usually respect tables and human food as out of bounds for them, the little cheeks)
it’s unbelievably sick that someone can be so unfair and tantalizing with his very pregnant wife. his made up rules are so ridiculous, the point that she even tries to calm him down and tries to make a point with him instead of laughing at him and his stupid childish „rules“ goes to show how much he manipulated and frightened her to this point. no person in their right mind would take up with this, a lot must have been going on before this.
the poor woman, she must have felt a lot of pressure to mask this disaster as a happy, functional marriage. 😢
I'd sue him. And take away everything.
Steven Crowder is the embodiment of the "Not only must I win, everyone else must lose" attitude.
that's America's entire ethos. hence coups, invasions, US friendly genocidal dictators, and the climate crisis.
Which is weird due to all the L's he takes.
Well-said
his discussion tactic is 'scorched earth'.
That’s conservatives in a nutshell. How would they know they’re superior unless they’re making everyone else miserable?
I respect his wife so much for not tolerating his emotional abuse any further.
same, I wish she would have left sooner but we all know that isnt always possible
It truly is amazing what some people will accept. The 2 women I know who have been in abusive relationships are both people I would describe as strong and smart. And they both got stuck for a time in bad relationships. It was scary to see.
Naw she married a monster. She was fine with how racist and vile he always was. She deserved everything that was coming. Nobody held a gun to her head and forced her to marry Steven Coward or fuck him and bear his children. She knew how viley racist he always was and chose that as her "eternal partner".
Seeing her aggravated and frustrated from being unable to get through to him was painful
@@edvh88 manipulators have their entire life to practice. But good hearted people who havent encountered it (especially if they have anxiety) often get trapped to give those manipulators narcissistic supply. Anyone can fall prey to an abuser.
She is eight months pregnant with THEIR TWINS, and he actually says: "You're not committed to anything." 🙄🙄🙄
Just think what he was upset about...She didn't want to give his dog medicine because of a very good reason. This argument was because he can't take care of his own damn dogs.
If you think people who say bigoted, sexist sh*t on TV aren't abusing the people in their private life in the same way, this is a perfect example that they most likely are.
Case in point, onision
What comes out a man’s mouth lives in his heart. That’s in the Bible and I e never seen it not be true. Locker room talk isn’t just talk. When someone show you who they are BELIEVE THEM‼️
@@joannamonique707 I wish I could graffiti this on the streets because of how true it is
Matt Walsh. He defended a straight cis christian male child predator Josh Duggar
holy shit the way she is trying so hard to assert her boundaries while trying to prevent him from hurting her futher by constantly telling him "i love you" and this heartless, cruel inhumane person responds with "i dont love you". jesus.
If Steven had put even 1/4 of the self-control and determination it took for him to stay abstinent before marriage, into learning how not to be an abusive narcissist, his marriage might not have failed so horrendously.
Bravo! Best comment.
Idk, after all this projection on his “happy marriage” and “respecting his wife, not like the other guys”, I kind of doubt he really lived up to that either
Perfectly stated. 🔥
@@KazeSango He failed at everything.
I have a hard time believing someone who flashes their co-workers is keeping it in their pants.
"My then wife decided that she didn't want to be married anymore, and in the state of Texas that is completely permitted." This really gives you a glimpse into how this would have gone if the law was on his side - that he would have refused to divorce her and kept her trapped and abused for as long as it pleased him. 🤮 I didn't know anything about him before this came out, but I heard that line and knew exactly the kind of scum he was (is).
Same as the people who think men should have a legal say in whether their partner can get an abortion. It makes my skin crawl.
"She decided to divorce me, and the state of Texas allows it" AS IT SHOULD !!!
I've seen many videos talking about him every now and then for the last few years and he's cruel to everyone all the time, even on his highly manicured show he's a petulant childish bully. Poor Hillary got the worst of it because he sees her as his property.
because they don't give you permission and THEY control your every move, thought and action, total control freaks. what this is, is.........when you do not control yourself and your own actions, you seek to control everyone and everything around you, that is how projection works. a true narcissist and woman hater........................his crew talked about how he would "lay his junk" on their shoulders or somewhere on their body.......who does that? someone closeted? perhaps. he hates women and has no respect for them that's for sure.........
My good freaking God, dude. Speaking as a married man, I can't believe this dude got married to someone he doesn't respect. My wife is an amazing, wonderful woman who could absolutely make it in life without me, and I consider it an honor and a privilege that she's let me be part of it. I could never imagine speaking to my wife the way he does. She is, in every way, my equal, and in some ways, my better. I hope to God she gets out of that marriage
I love that you said this. It is rare to hear people speak positively about their significant other. Rarer still to hear them speak with admiration you seem to here. Men, especially, get reviled as a "simp" for expressing any admiration for a woman.
@@Passions5555 men that call themselves straight but get mad at other straight men for liking women and wanting to be good partners to them I can’t help but wonder if they’re just secretly gay and want to be apart of the hookup scene but will never admit it
@@Passions5555 I'll simp for my wife till the sun goes cold. It truly does blow my mind that he can act like that to a woman he took vows with in front of God and everyone
>I'll simp for my wife til the sun goes cold
Hard same dude. My wife is the smartest, most responsible person I know and the best communicator I've ever met, and a goddamn saint to put up with my alexythymic ass. We run a business together and she murders it (in a good way) every single day and levels me up like crazy.
A person like that never intends to have an equal partnership.
Your attitude demonstrates the enthusiasm people will hopefully take into a lasting relationship built on shared respect and regard.
When he's complaining about how if she takes the car he can't go to the gym or see his parents, he quite literally sounds like a whiny, entitled toddler.
Worse. A whiny teen who SHOULD. KNOW. BETTER.
And he was post op and couldnt walk the dogs because he had to "rest" yet he wants to go to the gym xD i have met a person like him, but I am quick at thinking and responding, pointing out the contradictions in someone's speech, and I can tell you they hate that and sound more and more ridiculous trying to win the conversation, then they get angry and refuse to speak more. He is lucky she isnt that kind of a person because people would not only see him as an abuser, but as an idiot more clearly
For real. Like, does he not know what public transport is? 😂 If two people are sharing a car at least one of them gotta use it, right?
@@mmgs1148 I’m the same way. Unfortunately some women like some of my friends, arnt so quick and only see where they could have responded after they’ve spoken to me about the argument. I think all women should learn how to defend themselves. It’s vital.
Also, if it's the case that way round, isn't that the case the other way round too? She would be boxed in the house if he took the car! His argument works against him too.
So much to unpack in Steven's language. The way he talks about "discipline and respect" as if talking about a child or a dog. The way he says "watch it" in response to her calling out his abusive behaviour. The controlling aspect of not having a second car. Telling her that she needs to become someone "worthy". The self-victimisation, both in the Ring footage and his response. Hillary is so calm and she's communicating clearly and reasonably the whole time. But nothing she could say in that moment would have gotten through because abuse is not reasonable. The way Steven is responding is not a rational or proportional response to what she's saying. It's scary to see.
The Ring camera video is disturbing (I’m so glad she has subsequently escaped the marriage even if she’s forever tied to Steven because of the children). However, Steven’s response video is equally disturbing. I’m disgusted with his delusion that he’s been victimized by his wife having the legal option of a “no fault” divorce.
The reasonable inference from Steven’s response video is that he wanted to force her to remain in a marriage with him. Another speculation is that-in order to save face for his brand/audience-Steven leaned into the idea that his wife is to “blame” for the divorce that _she_ chose-not him. Both ideas can be true. He could be saving face as well as implying he wants to legally force his (now) ex-wife to remain married to him; each is monstrous.
Steven’s mindset is so insanely dangerous and toxic, because he’s not just victimizing his family. He has social influence and public platforms to spread his blatant misogyny and abusive mentality.
he's out of control and probably has been for a very long time.......................I bet his past girlfriends know a thing or two....................hope his wife and the kids can move on far away and heal......
It's chilling to view that footage as the product of so many topics you've covered in the past. "Wifely duties", gender roles, submitting to one's husband...this is what the values of people like the Transformed Wife and the Pearls looks like in practice.
I'm sorry but who unironically uses "floozy" as an insult in this millenium
People who literally, proudly take their traditions and goals from the 50s lol
"Harlotry" is another one that gets me in the mood to hear them say old gems like tomfoolery and flim-flam
Right? If someone said that to me, I would be too busy laughing to be offended
That’s one you use while doing a 1920’s gangster voice lmao
I use it all the time to describe people who have the flu.
He’s so mad that even conservative Texas doesn’t have laws that require both sides to agree to divorce lmao
_The true culprit is Texan Law, not my children._
-Steffan Chowder, explaining why he is the victim of a legal process
@@zekayman NO DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS. I grew up with parents that tried to fake it. It is so insanely obvious that they dont like each other. I have immense trauma from the emotional outbursts and arguments my parents did because they wouldnt divorce.
@@zekayman Isn't that reasoning vulnerable to a selection bias or two?
As in, the deaths of a parent would cut into the household wealth, which is tied to improved socio-economic outcomes.
And also one of the leading causes of all relationships ending, including marriages, is money troubles... so like how could preventing a divorce help a household from having their wealth cut whenever money disputes were the problem to begin with?
It's fine that you understand how to promote economic outcomes which lead to better socio-economic outcomes for the next generation, but the way you outlined it is just as much of an argument _discouraging marriages that don't include some amount of economic counseling to prevent an unstable economic pairing from ever enduring the conflict of divorce_ as it is an argument _promoting an delayed divorce w/o any economic counseling_ to promote marital stability.
Notice it's only when the wife is suffering and being treated bad they're are people saying she should tough it out for the kids but when it's the husband, they get all emotional say a marriage should be built on love and not disrespect blah blah blah.
@Kevin Jacobson bro no. Maybe if you just no longer have that "spark" sure. Stick it out if you can. But put your children thru living with an abusive father? No. Don't do this.
Also better outcomes could come from single parents if we supported them better with things like free childcare, allowing foodstamps to be used for diapers, etc.
Dude after hearing him say “watch it” I immediately was like ohhhh this is not good. As someone who was raised by a man who did this to me and also an an anthropologist who has studied the way men use language (in the west/America) to appear powerful it’s chilling to see this video. I hope that she gets out of this situation and that this piece of crap human being never finds another woman to terrorize.
Anytime someone (especially a man) says “watch it” in that tone, a shiver honestly runs down my spine…nothing good is happening next
She's luckily out of the situation, that's why he's announced it. They began proceedings in 2021 I believe
@@warlordofbritannia I cannot imagine a good man with good intentions saying that. I cannot imagine a scenario in which I would say that, for instance, unless my partner was walking inattentively on the edge of a cliff or something.
@@CJMGalaxy lol hey that plane over there's landing in the river watch it hey the trash cans keep getting knocked over can u watch it its not a bad saying it's like the British saying init which just means its gonna happen just like this video hey this chicken made a new video watch it lol but to u thats a terrible saying we should instead say her that new video can u perhaps take a gander at it
Or saying I dont love you to his wife lol hes a tyrant. Mike is right! Redbar!!!
They tone of his voice when he says "watch it" is all the evidence we need, honestly.
That made my blood run cold.
The worst part of all this is how unsurprising it is. A notorious racist, misogynistic, narcissistic POS is also a terrible private person? It’s less a confirming of what we already knew but a continuation.
As we leftists/progressives like to say, every accusation by rightwingers, and especially their extremists, is a confession, and Chowder has so happily confessed all these many many years.
the worst part for me is how many people chose to work for him. someone who portrays themselves like that and are now acting surprised/trying to expose him.... not that they don't deserve basic human respect but like they are not that much better than him for aligning themselves with someone like that in the first place. i hate to sound like a victim blamer but my empathy runs super low for racists/hom0phobes/misogynists - so what did they expect?
@@pinguufuuuu I’ve come to find that a lot of people who fancy themselves part of a “natural” hierarchy that lazily places them near the top all too often feel like they don’t have any other source of dignity outside of being above those placed beneath.
Which leads to a bizarre bargain where they accept being harmed in exchange for the worthless consolation prize of _well at least the subhumans below me have it worse, I get to harm them cuz I’m cooler!_
Which is all to say that what they expected is “that it’d be worth it somehow” & “I’ll never get it as bad as *they* get”
Personally, is how many people saw, time and time again, how awful he is, and kept feeling validated by his awfulness, and agreeing with it.
He hides behind the title of comedian just like so many other third-rate comedians these days. I've given up watching Live at the Apollo even though occasionally, there is a gem like Jack Whitehouse or at least someone with potential among a lot of dead beat comedians who use the stage to rant and rave. 'Comedy' is just their cover.
I didn't like Romesh Ranganathan at first as I didn't like his sardonic delivery but he was good in a relatively straight role in King Gary as the down to earth neighbour who refuses to get involved in Gary's hare brained schemes.
the world would be a much happier place if more men and women would be willing to accept “a successful relationship that ended”.
I need that tattooed on me fore'ead. What a good quote for the boyz and girlz etc
And everyone else too.
Naw she married a monster. She was fine with how racist and vile he always was. She deserved everything that was coming. Nobody held a gun to her head and forced her to marry Steven Coward or fuck him and bear his children. She knew how viley racist he always was and chose that as her "eternal partner".
Wise words 👌🏾!!
@@salyx men and women covered everyone.
There's something so chilling about seeing that video evidence of him being nasty and intentionally hurtful to his apparent life partner, then immediately followed by him pretending to be calm and understanding and hurt about the situation. This is EXACTLY why abusers get away with this stuff. They can turn on their pretend caring, kicked puppy routine like a light switch.
It's very bitterly ironic that Crowder started his career voicing Brain on Arthur. His behaviour really just shows not only doesn't he live up to Brain's intelligence, he also didn't learn any of the moral lessons that show teaches. It's right there in the theme song, Steve!
WAIT NO WAY?
What the hell
he didn’t lol that was max friedman cole
@@rachelsummers4311 seasons 5-6 google it
@@gayghostprince yes. I firmly believe it's one of the reasons he thinks he's not racist. "How can I be racist when I voiced a black coded character decades ago?"
As someone who lived with their now spouse for 8 years as just roommates before we dated and got married, a major piece of advice I'd give people who plan to marry - *do not marry someone who you haven't lived at least six months with.* If you can't live with them that long with minimal issues, then I beg of you, don't get married. Thankfully, my spouse and I are doing fine. It's like nothing changed with us.
I don't see how people don't do that much of a trial run first. Personally I'd wanna do a full year minimum so we can see how we do in each season too..
Nah. I'm sorry that was your experience but many couples never live together and do fine. It's all about mentality, maturity and communication. Dating taught me how to find men who were respectful and who could communicate. I didn't have to live with them to spot red flags.
@@Nicole-bg2ly I think they were talking more about compatability than red flags. Someone can be a wonderful partner, but if you don't click when it comes to your home preferences, you might not be well-suited to living together without anyone being wrong
Seriously. I was with someone for two years before moving in together and immediately it became clear that they NEVER wanted company (I loved having people over and my social life suffered because they’d have meltdowns over it), they hated the music I loved listening to and singing along with, and a few other things that tampered my general enjoyment of life. I would have just stayed in my tiny space on my own if I’d known ahead of time. Thank goodness we weren’t married!
@@salyx That's interesting...I knew my fellow long distance two years before marrying him and had no surprises. Knew him inside and out.
this guy is effing gross with his "in the state of texas that's how it goes" or whatever in regards to his wife choosing to divorce him. He's really implying he would rather be able to say "no" and then she wouldn't be *allowed* to divorce him. wtf.
yeah ive seen way too many conservatives express a very similar sentiment recently I'm honestly so terrified makes me not want to get married even more then I already do
Cuz he knows how hard it would be to find another woman who can tolerate him long enough to get married, they all do, deep down, and it's one of the biggest reasons they're fighting tooth and nail to change that law. It'd be one of the things they focus on if they get their way with abortion.
It's sickening and dystopian imo. Handmaid's tale levels of tragic
Implying you say
@@mullujullu I'm pretty sure it's like that in EVERY state now, anyways.
Especially when she only started the divorce proceedings when she found out *he'd hired a divorce lawyer.*
I've never seen someone so openly arrogant and abusive, yet maintain such a raging persecution complex until I heard of Steven. He is what happens when you stop learning at 15 and just become a raging alcoholic.
I'm so glad Ms. Ex - C is a free woman, I wish her a safe and relaxed rest of her pregnancy, and I hope her and those little ones are protected from him. There must be a collective sigh of relief from a house in Texas right now.
gaslighting 101
That tendency is obvious even in the old articles he wrote. All those vague allusions to how he's allegedly being oppressed for his abstinence.
He's so eager to judge and ridicule everyone else, to tell strangers all about what their private lives should be like, but he wants to pretend he's the victim while he's doing it. He wants to pretend he's just trying to live his life and mind his own business while *you* accost *him* as he lectures and ridicules total strangers.
Well Gabbie Hanna exists.
She was finished with her pregnancy of her twins prior to the divorce he didn’t attend the birth of his children and prior to her leaving the hospital he moved out of the home and cut her off financially.
Regarding comprehensive sex ed: Rachel hit most of the high points, but there's another major benefit that we see in kids who get comprehensive sex ed versus those who are taught abstinence-only versions: They become sexually active at an older age.
Conservatives like to think that teaching young people about sex is what makes them have sex. This is untrue, and it appears that the opposite is more likely. Along with lower risks of pregnancy and STIs, kids who receive comprehensive sex ed have sex for the first time at an older age, presumably because they're more aware of the risks and pitfalls than their more ignorant abstinence-only peers.
Conservative logic doesn't match actual reality. At best, people believe this shit out of ignorance, and at worst it's just a smokescreen for control.
So many young kids don’t even realize that what they’re doing is sex! Or how they could become pregnant. It’s so sad and there’s no excuse for it.
For some reason in The Netherlands there's now a substream of people who are also getting riled up over "sexual education at to early an age will make children commit acts of sex earlier than we would want to!!!" and I continue to try and point out that even if that would be the case (which as research has indeed shown, is not the case), if those people would not rather want those children to at least have some sense of what they are doing...
I use the same argument by the way when it comes to sexual education for children aged 5-8, which tends to limit itself to things like: knowing the right names for body parts, learning that there will be situations in which someone will have to touch some of them (like in a doctor's appointment) and that there are also moments at which this is not appropriate, age-related peers or not, and that it's good to teach them something about bodily autonomy.
These people never seem to understand that the risks of not educating children about their bodies at a young age risks them being unable to voice the possibility of sexual abuse happening to them because they literally don't know or are not using the right words against an adult that they might trust and tell about what happens.
(Those same people are also unfortunately the same kind who are now believing the trans-panic thing in my country as well, and have reasoned that all trans people are pedophiles, and trying to point out to them that this is dangerous because it not only risks more harm being caused to transpeople, it also causes a huuuuge risk that if they indeed teach their children that kind of moral, these children might focus so heavily on "who looks a bit different" that the person with actual wrong intentions who "doesn't look like a trans" is capable of doing actual damage. This unfortunately is a viewpoint that rarely ever comes across.)
It has always seemed fairly intuitive to me that this should be the case.
An obviously dishonest, Mean Girls style "You *will* get pregnant, and you *will* die" is simply not something that deserves much consideration or thought.
A best effort realistic assessment of risks and ways to mitigate them is, for lack of a better term... just... scarier.
@@Dutch3DMaster There is a part of me that thinks it makes sense that the far right would be opposed to children and young people being able to recognize and report sexual abuse.
Im not surprised with him, anybody who preaches how women have to be "godly" and do this or that never emulate the definition of a "godly" man
Like most of these guys like this. There are never sermons guiding men in their concept of leadership, just lots of damning sermons to women
Exactly!!! It isn't about being "pure" it's about control and ego. It always has been.
The way he treats her.. The audacity
ikr?? What a monster
yeah I'm glad she left
I'll bet a lot of us were watching that backyard video wondering, "Why doesn't she point out that it makes so much more sense for him to medicate the dog himself??? He doesn't exactly look busy!" My guess is that she learned the hard way, a long time ago, not to do that.
Clearly this wasn’t the first confrontation they had had about it
Honestly she learned that even in the short clip. She was like the abuse is insane and he immediately responds with watch it not even questioning it lmao
yeah she had a defensive pose and kept her distance from him and the way he spoke sounded like he was threatening to hit her (like he'd done it before)
I mean... Im seeing a Guy who complains about Not being able to visit his parents if His wife buys groceries. And somehow buying groceries violates her wifely duties. As If they couldnt agree on a time for her to get Back so He can See His parents. Or that she could drop him off at His parents and then go on to buy groceries. And yes, im aware that the parents Thing is a strawman. He doesnt Look Like He Had any Plans, it sounds like he Just wants the OPTION to have a plan.
Using Logic on that man didnt enter my head for even one second because... Whats the Point of using Logic on someone who clearly isnt interested in practical solutions AT ALL.
not only that but the meds for the dog could harm the babies because she is pregnant. so he says he wants to protect children, yet he is trying to force his wife into a dangerous situation for his unborn twins. disgusting. he tells her to just put on gloves. he doesnt care about his wife or kids
I just want to point out something. Steven, my husband and I did not wait till marriage we did shack up with each other we did live with each other for 4 years prior to us getting married. it was absolutely inconsequential to our relationship. It didn't affect us in a negative way whatsoever. We could see each other and hang out with each other as often as we wanted to. We spend our time supporting each other and strengthening our relationship and ensuring that the other person was the person we wanted to stay with. You can use team-building exercises to strengthen the team but more importantly to see if that team is going to be successful. Sometimes, no matter how hard you try that team just isn't an appropriate fit and it's never going to work out. Us living together and working together showed us that we had an effective team.
Steven you are a year older than the both of us but we still got married before you did in 2010 and we are still married now. We've been together for 17 years and married for thirteen, you couldn't even last a decade because you already started divorce proceedings in 2021 and that's the point when your marriage failed.
Obviously the two of you waiting until marriage didn't mean s*** because you still failed. You want to try to pretend that you have the better method but your method absolutely failed. Good job. You didn't do it right because your methods still failed.
hubby and i had sex on the first date. we lived together for five years before we married. our relationship lasted 40 years until death did us part (his, not mine). we win.
@@margaretjohnson6259 yes Steven is just an idiot.
Imho finding out sexual compatibility is an important part for a long term relationship.
@@margaretjohnson6259 That was an amazingly long relationship.
@@page8301 it definitely is important because I'm like what Christians try to pretend were talking about we're not talking about something that you can learn to do because you don't really learn to have a sexuality
I grew up in a home with an abusive father and that video put every nerve I have on high alert. I'm glad she decided to leave him, because it never gets better, only worse.
Same here. While watching this, I suddenly felt like I was 10 years old again and fighting my dad with all the anger I could muster. I just want to come through the screen and dish out crowder’s shit right back to him.
Steven is part of that group of men who cant cope with the fact that women are learning how to be okay by themselves
Setting boundaries only hurts those who want to abuse them
@@richelleeasley6492 facts
@@Tiny_Toast 😂😂😂😂
At least 9 years of abuse. I feel so bad for her, I hope she's healing.
"She wanted out of the marriage and the law says that's allowed"
"I picked wrong"
This man baby has clearly never been told no and has been brought up to think he can always get his own way and always "win"
what a loony, glad his wife left and exposed him, god knows how bad the rest of her life would have been stuck to that narcissistic nut
I also find it supremely annoying that he whines about the fact that, "..but in the state of Texas, my beliefs don't matter!" Like, yes, Steven, that's the whole point of separation of church and state? Your Christian beliefs literally do NOT matter in a court of law. I love that they are always for the separation of church and state when it comes to demanding the federal government mind its own business instead of breaking up religious cults and the like, but when it comes to things like this, they expect Draconian, fundie based arbitration??? Pick a laaaaane.
Apples to oranges comparison
Literary nobody says that
@@billymitchell655 except he's literally bitching about his fundie beliefs not mattering in a legal arena. Stfu
@@billymitchell655 cap
sorry this is off topic from the video but oh my god I love your style so much. You look fantastic in every video, and I am obsessed with the poofy shirt, it's so cool. thank you for making videos I always really appreciate your insights into things and the way you talk about them is very well stated and enjoyable to listen to ^^
Thank you so much!! :)
I wish I watched this video before my wedding night and tried too force myself too jump into sex after being celibate until then. It caused a massive panic attack and in the end we couldn’t do it that night because of that. I don’t regret waiting, it was right for us (doesn’t mean it’s right for everyone) but I regret trying too force myself to do something I wasn’t ready for. Everyone who plans too wait should watch this video and decide what’s really right for them.
Crowder was right about one thing in those old articles: his now ex-wife was certainly way out of his league. I hope she's able to move on from this traumatic period of her life, although we all know that Steven's not going to make that easy for her. Abusers can't stand losing, after all.
I can not tell you how utterly devastating it is to know you have put every fiber of your being into loving someone, and they tell you they have never felt loved. It's so unbelievably cruel 💔
That ring camera was so upsetting. As someone who was in an abusive relationship i recognize every tactic he uses in that video. It completely activated my fight or flight response, it is so terrifying
the superiority complex he has is so astounding lol like you should not be that confident being such a nasty person...
The idea that there are people actively surprised he is a nasty person off-camera was also really disgusting. I mostly felt like "This is not coming from somewhere, this is not just someone pretending to be an awful person. If you are surprised now you clearly were under the impression that it's much better if someone is a blatant racist, misogynist and transphobe on camera, but that having that same behavior off-camera is the real crime..."
I was mostly also really appalled about how "concerned" he is for the safety of his children which next to the fact he didn't care about the toxin he wanted his wife to handle is also pretty apparent from the fact that if it is his children, it's really important, but if it's other people's transchildren, they need to be taught a lesson (bomb threating a hospital that obviously doesn't treat just transchildren alone, threatening parents, teachers, doctors with jailtime and fines and removal from medical care by revoking the license of doctors and teachers).
It's just so pathetic that his children deserve "safety", but no other child that does something or has parents that allow it to do something that does not align with his world view is allowed the same thing.
Underneath some video's, I've previously (before this came to light) been trying to point out to people that someone who as the adult man he is is so venomously hating transchildren, stops being a bully, and is actively a monster.
It turns out that could not be further from the truth. Again, not surprised, but I'm afraid there will be people defending him regardless...
@@Dutch3DMaster Right! Because the people that watch him are probably the same in their beliefs and harmful attitudes and don’t want to admit who they truly are themselves. Or they are in some serious denial and ignorance!! People will excuse things he says are jokes and not a big deal when really they are incredibly harmful and even applied in worse ways off camera, which you’re right…should be no surprise.
He is absolutely not concerned with his own children which is apparent through his actions and frankly he is only concerned with his own ego and public image. He clearly doesn’t even view women and his own former wife as a real person, along with anyone who isn’t a cis white male like himself.
What horrified me the most was his statement following the divorce where he summed up the situation as “him choosing wrong” the complete lack of awareness and accountability for his own wrong doing and shifting the blame to his ex wife that she was simply the wrong choice just shows how much of a disgusting narcissist he is. I guess the right choice for him would be someone who isn’t able to hold him accountable and is entirely submissive and removed from his horrible personality, character, and abuse. I feel awful for his children and frankly anyone he has abused throughout his life, as I’m sure it’s not exclusive to his former wife and kids. Absolutely revolting.
I have two theories about why he keeps calling people floozies. Theory One: he has the mentality of a boy on the playground, weasel-wording his way around using a “naughty word” - he feels smug about “ooooh, I called you an insult but it’s not technically on the list of words that would get me sent to the principal, so you can’t do anything about what I did say, I’m so clever, aren’t I???” And Theory Two: he found a word he liked once upon a time and is too lazy to bother expanding his vocabulary as long as the same old term can still be pressed into use, regardless of whether it quite fits contextually.
There's room for both, enjoy your little treat being extra right
Actually it's because he only uses slurs from the 1880's ish, you have to extremely hateful to do this. Either purposefully taught or researched.
Imagine the most hateful a person can be. Crowder is worse. Imagine a pre-American civil war slave baron, but they have to pretend to be a normal person today.
Those things and just using it to further degrade women and call them whorish for existing
Its probably what his father called women
This poor woman. I'm so happy she divorced his abusive *ss! He's a monster.
Him saying "kids need a mom and a dad" is not only a red flag for kids raised by same sex parents or single parents, but it also gives me the impression that he's just going to bow out of their lives and refuse to coparent now that they're divorced.
This also doesn't get brought up a lot, but in that security clip, he also basically tells her to take the dogs for a walk. A heavily pregnant woman, with twins, walking at least two large pitbulls. Now, those pitbulls seem well behaved at least (when they're hanging around at home) but I really don't see what's so "traditional family values" about making your pregnant wife do physical labor like that. If a woman's job is to make baby (ick) then why wouldn't her task while she's in the final stages of that to...sit on the couch and do nothing? Pregnant women have enough problems with sore feet and ankles without dragging around two dogs for an hour.
Also, he is such a pos. Whining about how she's the bad guy for going out to do chores while he sits at home and _might_ want to do something while she's gone.
Don't forget that this is summer - so he wanted his wife, heavily pregnant with a high risk pregnancy, to walk two large dogs, in the Texas summer. Did he WANT her to go into labour??
Could be that way the kids would have survived but she wouldnt have. Our glorious church leaders told us that dying in pregnancy is glorious and a way to serve both husband and God. Dying is glorifing Christs sacrifice on the cross and being forgiven for the eternal sins of eve with blood atonement. If something goes wrong you may not be able to serve your husband as before and your better off dying. So with that in mind........what do you think?
Growing up in the mormon church pregnant women got no extra rest. It was considered a natural and easy thing to be pregnant so why would the woman need rest? They didn't even want you to rest between pregnancies so you could have a better survival chance and healthier child. One child a year was heavily praised.
@@amberinthemist7912 While the grandma of my dad's side was not a member of the Mormon church, she used to be religious up until the beginning of the 1980's (in the Netherlands by the way).
When her daughter suffered 2 miscarriages a pastor one day knocked on their door with the question/remark about increasing the amount of family, and "why it's taking so long for there to be babies in this home" (there was a housing crisis here so her daughter was living at home).
My grandma was a very easy-going person, but that day she felt a boiling rage inside, slammed the door in his face and immediately made sure afterwards to cancel her membership from said church forever.
She was furious that he even dared to ask such a question and not be a bit more cautious about the subject at hand (especially because of the fact that it was known things were not going well for her daughter, pregnancy-wise).
Stephen seems to operate under the classic shitty man doctrine of "would have sex with any woman who looked at him for half a second too long" and assumes most other people operate the same, completely disregarding that people are human beings who are not just attracted to anybody. His way of choosing a wife was not to chose a partner. He chose the one he perceived as bringing him the most status and then he treated her like an accessory to his life and is surprised she left him. Him saying "I picked wrong" is the ultimate conclusion of that.
The frustrating thing is that he's so far lost in this way of life that he'll never see what actually went wrong.
Thank you for stating that people can choose to be celibate, to be in non marital or non cohabiting relationships or to be married. And choose whether to have children or not. I don't want to be part of any group, circle of friends or organisation where the pressure is on me to be married, not married, dating, have children and so on. It's my life not theirs to live. It's why I walked away so often from people, workplaces, social groups and organisations. Being celibate isn't always detrimental to your mental health if that's what you choose for yourself. I had female 'friends' who put pressure on me to have casual sex because I wasn't in a relationship. I didn't need them in my life. Much of it was because they were consuming pornography in order to keep up in their sex lives with their lovers, boyfriends or husbands.
Mainstream media through pop songs, celeb stories in newspapers and magazines and rom coms are also responsible for pushing romance and relationships onto people by saying that a certain person has 'found happiness' meaning that they had found a partner. But somebody could find happiness by finding good friends, finding a dream job, getting a pet or buying a house in a neighbourhood they like to live in.
I chose celibacy as a non religious person and had to dump sooooo many friends because they outright bullied me for my choice.
I'm now happily married for over 4 years. We are very happy and waited for sex so boo on those who bullied me to make THEIR choices and not my own
The story of Josh Duggar's weddingnight is insane nightmarefuel. His wife had no sexual education and then had to spend her weddingnight with that monster. That girl had no idea of what sex was, had a lifelong experience of insane hiërarchie based on submissivenes and then had to have sex with a predator. There was no consent there.
And yet she still stands by him even after everything. I wish she would wake up already, but I understand it's hard to when that's how she's been raised her whole life.
The sole fact that Crowder thinks that his wife should not be able to divorce him if he doesn't want to is reason enough for her to leave.
He also lied about it being his wife's choice to divorce him (so he can keep his Christian/purity points in the minds of his fans who care about that I guess?) Because apparently he hired a lawyer first. He's just so thoroughly digusting on every level
"I should be legally allowed to stay married to a woman that I don't love against her will. Change my mind"
That security cam was very troubling. A classic case study of gaslighting. He sounds like a spoilt manchild but with a terrible temper. Amazing how calm she was considering...
I'm afraid she was so calm because it happend to her loads of times :(
@@marloeslovestea You're probably not far from the truth. A part of me wants to ask her, you are clearly a better, mature person than he is, why do you put up with his venom and danger? And the answer is probably that damnable toxic religion holding people together through the pithy "for better or worse" claptrap.
She sounded afraid for her life.
dang, I've been busting my butt working for the past ten years when I could have just been a "live in harlot"?? Why did nobody tell me this was an option?? lmao
37:00 the way he's talking to his wife on the Ring footage is so upsetting! That "watch it" really pisses me off, honestly. That's how I talk to my cat when he's about to do something he knows he shouldn't. I can't imagine addressing another person like that. Also holy shit, just flat out saying he doesn't love her....glad she got out.
Not trying to judge but I don't even talk to my cat that way. It's her apartment she's just letting me stay here.
He doesn't love her just because she didn't want to give his dog medicine that could harm a developing baby or walk 2 large pit bulls. Dude should marry his dogs. 😂
@@kristinfrostlazerbeams He doesn't love his dogs either or he'd be the person insiting on giving them their medicine. He would want to be the one that knew they got it for sure. The dogs are just another possession to him just like she is. He doesn't see either of them as living things deserving of empathy because he's an abusive narcissistic piece of shit.
Thank you for covering this despicable man.
The reason he reuses that picture is that it's the last time she was smiling when she was with him.
I was not ready to perceive
I grew up watching my father abuse my mother verbally, emotionally, and psychologically. He got help and we are now a happy family, but I will never forget the feeling that I got when I watched him tear my mother down and put her back together the way he wanted her. It’s like ice being poured into your veins, slowly spreading until your entire body is crying out that this feels wrong, followed by a hard pit in your stomach that aches because you couldn’t do more, didn’t do more. It has been years since I last felt that sting, and this isn’t even the first time I’ve seen the Crowder argument vid, but for the first time in by now some years, I felt ice in my veins. How Crowder spoke to his wife is scarily similar to how my father, an ex-drug addict, ex-alcoholic, ex-cheater, ex-monster, made the most kind woman I have ever known wish she were dead. What a legacy to leave to a son.
Hopefully he gets help, like my father did. My father is a good man who had been warped and calloused by a world that told him his mental health didn’t matter, and that how he dealt with his mental health didn’t matter. He got help because beneath the disgusting man I knew for most of my life there was a scared boy who believed he had to suspend his empathy. For Crowder, suspension of empathy is a virtue. I hope he gets help, but for these people there is no moving on unless they cast off the fascist mind disease that nearly took my father away from me from drug abuse and that could have taken my mother away, could have made me take my life.
Feminism is the only option, the only salvation from a world full of scarred boys like me and my father.
Why did your mother stay?
I could never
I wish my father would get help. I told both my parents in the calmest and most respectful way possible that everyone can benefit from therapy. But my father is too prideful to do it.
My mother stayed because he manipulated her and she didn’t know anything else.
Divorce was never an option because me and my mother were deep in Christianity as a coping mechanism- the kind of Christianity that makes you see your struggles as necessary and even indicative of blessing from God for being strong enough.
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I'm sorry your mother was trapped in her marriage and religion.
Their marriage is happy now and my father is working hard being the husband he never was. While I am no longer religious, my mother still holds religious beliefs, though her exposure to my secularism and my father’s more secular religiosity moderates her vulnerability to the extremities of the environment she teaches in. (She is a teacher at my old Christian school.)
Crowder sure makes a good case for the existence of feminism and why women should stay single
One of my favorite things about your videos is how you approach things with empathy and compassion. I wish more people were like you.
Imagine being on a plane after your wedding night and having to read your newly-minted hubby relentlessly obsess about everyone else's relationship.
That woman was much more resilient than we give her credit for.
I love how proud Kyra looks to sit with you 😭😭😭😍 and I love listening to her snork into the mic what a precious bean 😩😭😭😭😤💜
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Thing is... I have a father who has issues with his temper, and whose actions might sometimes be verbally/emotionally abusive. And sometimes he'll focus on something like Steven here. He'll start with the idea that someone has to do something, and he'll keep insisting on it and get enraged -- no matter how valid their reasons not to do it, no matter if it can be done at a better time, no matter if they aren't the best person to do it. And when I'm around him, to some degree I get like that too, and I hate it about myself so much -- and when I'm away from that apartment with him, I never, ever feel like that. It's so terrifying to me that people take a man like that seriously instead of acknowledging that he needs a fuckton of therapy and that he hurts people around him.
3:02 I’ve seen people criticize his “comedy.” Tbh the moment you showed his face I recognized him and was like- not surprised he’s a shit person.
I hope the wife is healing though. As a victim of abuse from my father and brother- I can only imagine how that shit must’ve been like.
him saying "watch it, f***** watch it" just confirms the abuse
This situation is horrific. My husband and I have been 5 years married. We married young and fast and we got a lot of backlash, we dismiss it because we knew people married young and old, that didn’t work out , also people that married soon or after many years of dating, that didn’t work out. So we understood trends were trends and we weren’t just an statistic. The reason we knew our marriage was going to work is because we communicate often and honestly about everything, we knew each other really well, our values , our differences, our hopes and dreams, our boundaries and ways of communicating with each other. We’ve seen together the crowder situation and we were shocked, even in a big disagreement we will never talk to each other that way. “I don’t love you” “watch it” “wifely duties”… horrible
Hubs and I got together at 16. Married at 19. 41 years old now with two boys. We were told by almost everyone that we wouldn't last. I wish you many years of happiness! ❤
Steven Crowder is a terrible human being! I was scared for his wife when he was yelling at her and followed her into the house at the end of that video! Him complaining that she doesn't do her "wifely duties" as well as saying that she needs to be a "worthy wife", asking her "How does she respect the man", and telling her that "she needs to have discipline and respect". I mean the woman was 8 months pregnant, for God's sake!
Also, I'm asexual and aromantic. Thanks for the "if you never want to have sex in your life, that's ok!" bit! I don't want to ever get married and I'll probably die a virgin! I tried kissing men and women and didn't like it, nor did I like touching people! That's why I think it's so important to experiment! I always had romantic and sexual fantasies about characters from my favorite TV shows, and I couldn't understand why I didn't like men or women in real life, but eventually, I understood that I am on the spectrum of asexuality, where I like the platonic idea of love and have a healthy libido (so, I'm thankful for sex toys)!
WOW HAHAHA, he really pulled my head for a spin with the way he went "its no one's fault by my own....because I chose wrong." HAHA
“Don’t blame the kids”
-Man who almost certainly blames his own kids
No yeah I was like oh my gods finally he's admitting he's a little nevermind..... typical Steven being lame
Yeah :D He's completely disregarding women are people, so he picked the one that he thought would bring him the most status, doesn't have any real feelings, treats her like an accessory and abuses her and then is surprised she leaves. The audacity of this idiot 🤦♀
Guys like Crowder hang onto the “marry NOW or you’ll die alone” schtick for dear life when we! Are! All! Dying! Alone! Decades and decades of the same whiny phrase when reality is right fucking there
He's scared he'll die alone. And it looks like he might 😌
If they were to get their wish to get no-fault divorce abolished, then there’s no protection for women who cannot leave a husband who acts however he wants because he knows she can’t leave him. There’s no incentive for him to be a dutiful & worthy husband. At least now, a woman has an out whenever she wishes which is the consequence for a husband not holding up his end of the contract.
This got me thinking about men who complain about divorces and/or child support which tells me everything I need to know about them as a person. If you complain about those kind of things, then you’re just an immature brat who doesn’t want to take responsibility and face the consequences of your actions. These kind of men deserve everything that comes at them
@@starstorm1267 I agree… My father was one of them. After we ran away from him due to domestic violence, my mom had no way to prove that he earned a lot of money because he was getting paid cash. The judge assigned him the minimum child support which he rarely paid on time to punish my mom. When we began to communicate when I was older, he would tactlessly complain to me that these payments were a headache…All while he gave his new family everything.
I may have missed, but do you know *he* was the one to retain divorce counsel first according to the reporting? I think one of the most despicable things is his attempt to cast her as the instigator of their separation, though she'd have been entirely correct to have done so. Narcissistic men instantly playing the victim is nothing new, but seeing it in 4k is always eye-opening.
He probably did that as another power move, well well well how the tables have turned
I watched these clips from others and wondered about your take. Thxx for the video. I love how you are helping others identify abusive behaviors.
Wow, it’s so impressive that Steven maintained abstinence throughout his short bisexual phase! We stan a committed king 🤩🤩
you shouldn’t have to apologize for promoting yourself especially if you are being suppressed
Those couple of minutes of video were short but said a lot. He was smoking in front of her 8 months pregnant wife, that says he don't care about her health of the babies. He's a multimillionaire and share the same car, likely to control where and when she goes out, he's berating her, even said he doesn't love her, so he likely berates her at other times, She's doing house chores, again he can pay for that so she can rest at least until she gets to delivery. Even there's people that is defending him saying we don't know the "context" i'm quite sure that a bigger frame would make him look even more of a douche than he already is.
I know this is off topic, but it’s so sweet when Kyra is looking up at you while you’re talking, and I can just see so much love in her eyes for you! There is truly no love and affection that is like a dog’s! ❤
You just know he thinks he’s a “nice guy”
53:08 All I can think at the moment is how "well" ditching one's wife and child with the hope that they will suffer from his lack of presence actually turned into the escape my mom needed since despite the abuse she was still too worried that she couldn't survive without my father until she no longer had a choice.
2 years later HE was the one crawling back to Mom who by then had a sustainable and new home and at the first sign he was slipping into his abusive ways she could confidently kick him out for the safety of herself and her children. Technically she wasn't divorced until 10 years later but again that was due to her wanting to protect us from being forced to spend time with our father regardless of how we felt about it. We were never banned from interacting with him, it was always his choice on whether he wanted to visit us, however she wasn't going to put us in situations that would leave us vulnerable to harm if she can find a way to make it safer for us.
We still had enough experience of what he was like for all three of us to each have our own reason not to want to continue a relationship with him by the time of the divorce. And since she had been supporting us without his financial assistance, he didn't even have to pay child support (she didn't want to spend her life "looking over her shoulder" in case he isn't able to afford to pay and takes drastic measures.)
At 68, this so-called Christian man could be dead, alive, in Canada, or in Jamaica and my siblings, mother, and I would have no idea which.
I got married to my wife 31 years ago. I married her because I love her. She married me because she loves me. We lived together for three years before we got married. I knew that I wanted to spend my life with her and I still know this to be true. We chose not to have children much to the frowning dislike of my mother who wanted her ‘grand children’ and took me to one side to inform me of my ‘duty’ to the family!! I tried to explain to her that this would never happen and was treated like some failure for not producing. I married my wife to ‘live and be with her’ and to my family this does not compute. My mother actually said to me: ‘who will go to your funeral if you don’t have kids?’ My response was - ‘I don’t care who or who doesn’t go to my funeral’ as I am an atheist. I didn’t marry her so that she could produce children. We committed to each other and no one or nothing else. We are very happy together. I’ve split from my mother who just couldn’t accept that I was happy with my life loving just one woman.
The idea that what prevents someone from cheating is "self control" is so awful lmao. Like, I wouldn't need to "control myself" to not cheat on my girlfriend, because I would have no desire to cheat on my girlfriend
Sending love to you and Kyra, also wishes that youtube stops hurting your channel, you do such amazing work🥺❤
When my dad was in his abusive rage, the worst thing you could do would be to call him out on it. If my mom ever said: your abuse is sick…, it would not end with ‘“watch it”’or even “fucking watch it.” When he said “watch it”, my skin crawled.
hey rachel! i have been following you for literal years now, and just another video like this really make me smile when i see how much you've changed and become more comfortable in yourself. YOU are GLOWING and thats fantastic! well spoken, intelligent, and fantastic advocate for what matters most !
keep being awesome!
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Thank you so much ♥️
I’d wage $50 that when he said they were “laughed at” for saving physical stuff for marriage, he really means “people said they didn’t agree with me and it hurt my feelings.”
Or they didn’t say anything at all and he’s just trying to make himself sound like some cultural warrior.
When I was in my 20s I had an old friend from my childhood church mention out of no where that he and his fiancee were waiting for marriage. I made a totally crazy face and laughed nervously. Because that's really strange information to share without prompting. I'm sure it was something like that, not that people were laughing at the principles themselves.
oh my god the tone on the "watch it" is genuinely scary
like that alone is a valid reason to leave your partner
I'm so used to reading stories where characters have trajectories and they grow and they change and they learn that I think I've really internalized this idea that when you see someone like Stephen, this is just a blip in their life and some day they will watch this back and feel so ashamed for their behavior.
Now that I'm in my 30s, I've learned that its extremely rare that anyone changes. Look anyone from your past up on facebook. They've all gotten worse. People just become more radical over time, as they seek out people that share their beliefs and won't listen to anyone who doesn't.
It doesn't matter how many people call Stephen "abusive." He thinks he's doing the right thing by trying to control his wife and make her serve him. It may be religiously motivated, but (having dated an atheistic narcissist) I think it's just narcissism.
It's really sad because I don't think that he's happy. Obviously its much worse for his wife and his kids, but I don't think it's ultimately good for him either. All narcissism is overcompensation for a lack of self-confidence, and this man has so little faith in his own ability to be a good husband that he'd rather trap his wife by making divorce illegal than ever entertain the idea of working on himself. Madness.
Even if he doesn't learn anything from this, I hope him being turned into a laughing stock teaches other people how not to be.
Men like him see women and children as property. It's why he is so insistent that his way is the only way.
So she’s very pregnant and wants something from the food store, but he wants her to walk and medicate the dogs while he sits there, and maybe he’ll go to the gym or his parents or his friends , leaving her there without a car, and he’ll bring the groceries when he gets back.
Yeah, a very chivalrous family man
Idk if the vid mentions it but the dog medicine is also very toxic to women that are pregnant and can harm unborn babies
He would rather see his wife get very ill, miscarriage, her twins have health issues at birth, and anything else that could happen from it than just ..
* checks notes *
not being a literal asshole child mentally and just medicating his own pets himself
But yeah I agree he’s a total dick so who’s surprised he’s a horrible husband and I’m surprised she even let him plan to have kids when he can’t even raise an animal, if you can’t take care of houseplants or a pet Steven why should we believe you can take care of and nurture a growing human being? smh
@@Bootystank99659 it’s so easy to act out masculinity by being aggressive and overly sexual, but it’s equally masculine to be chivalrous and selfless. It’s just not as much fun so it’s less popular.
Oh no no, HE wants something from the grocery store (grilling stuff), but she hasn't done the dangerous chores, so he's making sure she knows that she doesn't get the PRIVILEGE of going to the grocery store FOR him. She has to earn the right to do anything and prove she loves him through mounting impossible, dangerous or unpleasant tasks. In his head, of course. 🤢
She handled the situation like a pro, and I'm so glad, like me, she's out safely. I always knew he was a piece of shit, but I used to have a higher tolerance, obviously.
The interesting thing about Crowder, or at least the way i read it: When he says "It was not my decision" while complaining about no fault divorce he says "Her leaving me is harmfull to me. I can not function without her". Of course the worst thing in this is the attack on her personal freedom. But it also shows how insecure the guy is, how dependant on someone else to take care of him. I think he has some serious unresolved issues, besides him beeing an A
He doesn't even uncross his legs to rip her apart. He's a horrible person
Hey, I actually read Crowder's "Getting Married the Right Way" article like ten years ago, and I also made the exact same comment of "how do we know that it wasn't awkward for his wife? He didn't factor in her experience at all." I remember that I came across it when the stfuconservatives tumblr responded to it, but I didn't realize that it was by Steven Crowder.
I’m trying to figure out a rational reason that he couldn’t give the dogs the medicine or take them on a walk, and then I have to remember that this is not a rational person. This is someone who believes women are to be servants to men. He just wants to be able to sit around smoking and not have to do jack shit.
I'll bet anything that his wife made him wait and he was bitter about it. That would explain his odd verbal diarrhea involving this all.
I think you're right.
Nah, unlikely. Christian culture made him wait. But, yes, he might be bitter about it.
First, your look is incredible. Gorgeous.
I think I remember reading an old “study” which was really more of a poll,
about how abstinence leads to more successful marriages, but the “successful” aspect was simply staying married, not happiness, not love, just not divorcing. And the problem is the same religious people who would practice abstinence before marriage, are the same people who are shamed by their religion for divorce.
He's not actually hypocritical, he's just living the values he preaches/supports. He's what conservatism leads to (along with fascism)
He is a hypocrite, though. He's told blatant lies about his wife. Claimed he would never bad mouth her.
This is the takeaway to have, IMO. Like, people like it when he preaches those values, but seeing them in practice on that video looks pretty fuckin bad, doesn't it? That is logically and ideologically consistent with his stated worldview and values.
@@CJMGalaxy no its not. "I will never badmouth my wife"
"I don't love you" "watch it (or ill fuck you up)"
This is hypocritical. He abused his wife while swearing hed never.
This poor woman! So glad she took the step to leave this marriage
So, according to him, not waiting til marriage doesn't work. But, in light of recent events, clearly, waiting til marriage? To quote Stevie boy himself: "That doesn't work eeeiiitherrrr!!!" 😂😂😂
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My parents had sex on their first date. They were married for over 20 years. They would still be happily married today if my mother never had cancer.
"Misogynist, Hypocrite & Terrible Husband" - Why are you so positive to him?
I had to heave a big sigh watching those videos of them talking to each other. It’s infuriating that he’s sitting so casually while he says such hurtful things to her. I just wanted to go protect her. She seemed so alone and without support. 🥺
Unfortunately, I don't think the wifely duties comment was meaning she was failing to perform them by 'trapping' him in the house with no car. I got the impression he was actually saying she wouldn't get the reward of the car "because you refuse to do wifely things'' (providing him with sex while nine months pregnant). It definitely sounded like he was angry she didnt want to have sex with him to me