For those who are upset about the outcomes of this simulation, I would like to clarify that this is an April Fools' simulation. I'm surprised that no one mentioned the release date of the video!
I think this video is Perfect. I told last time, and I will say again - Andrei bt - or btvt dot info. DIG in - there is all info that you need. There was a tests before with Tandem warhead from RPG-29, that penetrated 800+ test plate....there is pictures ! and tank side reactive armor where is two layers of NOZ, almost stops it. Only 30-40mm penetration was in tank side armor where is 80mm. There is also a pictures of OFL 120 F1 round…….that was cut in peaces ! Better make a M829A3 with T-84 OPLOT hull armor. Because there is a pic (Andrei bt page) where you can see two layers of NOZ in hull armor.
@@olgertshomics9088that was DUPLET ERA that cutted the projectile into pieces which is basically 3 layers of NOZH in the sides and 2 layers in the front
@@AlexanderK9519 For the test with OFL 120 F1 was one layer of NOZ. Please check your data. In Oplot tank side ERA blocks there is 3 layers....correct.
Nozh ERA is not as effective against APFSDS as this simulation shows. Many other simulation channels using more data show that Nozh ERA's shaped charges do not have the mass required to break through a tungsten rod, and is much more effective at disrupting the explosively formed jet of HEAT-FS and HEAT warheads in ATGMs.
@@SimulationPlus it still seems unlikely that the newest Russian shell would just get stone-walled like that (it didn't even get through the first armor plate!)
I really doubt this penetration is accurate, nozh has been confirmed to break apart only old steel projectiles, 3bm60 would only be slightly damaged but not completely ripped apart as this simulation shows.
Bro its western biased channel when he used Relikt ERA against M829A3 it exploded before even touching the ERA while in these Simulation NOZH explodes at the right moment to disrupt the round completely and cut it off
@@AlexanderK9519 True, M829A4 was developed to defeat Relict, yet in his simulation A3 almost penetrated T-90M with Relict, while in this simulation 3BM60 (The best Russian round in service currently!!) didint even leave a dent in the T-64BM, which is for all intents and purproses, an old soviet era T-64BV with Nozh ERA slapped on it. I dont think Nozh is a bad ERA, but having the simulation show the best russian round not even penetrating the first plate is just straight up bias.
@@quan-uo5ws only the 3BM42 was disrupted that much and it was against DUPLET which is basically three layers of NOZH, M829A4 would still find it a bit difficult to fully penetrate with RELIKT and the DUPLET respectively since they are too advanced and heavy ERA, there is a video where LOSAT failed to penetrate against RELIKT go check it far more accurate Simulation channels than these one
@@SimulationPlus why did the RELIKT ERA exploded when the tip of M829A3 didn't even touch it while with NOZH exploded at the perfect moment to disrupt the round? Since your videos are not accurate enough you shouldn't upload them spreading misinformation
Finally correct simulation !!! PS. Andrei bt page have also pictures from France Leclerc APFSDS rounds that was cut in peaces when rounds hit ERA blocks. Overall AMAZING WORK MAN ! Thanks
It looks like the armour pulverized the Tungsten Penetrator. There is definitely Something wrong in this Simulation. Look like the hardness were the same of the penetrator and the Armour in your data
results would be mostly the same in this instance. if you slice up the oncoming round then you take away most of its ability to penetrate. the west had this type of armor a long time ago too, but didnt use it for 3 main reasons. 1st because its useless vs Heat. 2nd their wasn't really a need for it sense they could just change the armor packages on stuff like abrams or challenger with different materials, thicknesses, angles and layers. 3rd The big thing is the west retires its old MBTs, it doesnt keep wasting money upgrading them when they become hopelessly obsolete. a modern (or even 30 year old) ATGM or Heat round will go right through this armor and knife type era no problem.
@@TheAngriestGamer.I don't think HEAT charges will do much of anything against THIS armor: this is the front armor. But top attack missiles can punch straight through the much weaker armor on top of the tank, since it's a lot weaker than this armor.
@@JAnx01HOW TF WOULD IT DO THAT if to even activate, it needs to be struck by a heat round first?? meaning the heat round is already past the area that the blades would cut and has already detonated and punched through.. think man, you and NK-qn6qp chat bot need to use ur brain. this type of ERA is PURE anti-dart, NOT anti heat, and its NOT a gen 3 hybrid era thats effective against both.. it ONLY works vs darts because darts are long, when the tip strikes the era and sets it off, the charges pop and slice up the rest of the dart.. None of that will work/apply to Heat which has already formed the jet and punched though, the act of doing so is what causes this ERA to activate and shocker, it will miss.
What software do you use to compute the simulation? Does it only run on the CPU? There is a potential for much higher computational speed if the calculations could be offloaded to a higher-end video card, which possess very many cores relative to current Intel and AMD CPUs. Of course, if this software runs single-threaded (one core only), then a lot more work would be required to make it multi-thread. Just a thought, since you remarked that this simulation took 90 hours of computation time.
No simulation software will run on only the CPU, of course it runs on a gpu or more than one. Simulations like this are incredibly hard to make and very hard to render the insane amount of physics that goes and and to get it kind of correct
Looks like a crooked simulation. And in any other simulations, the projectile passes at least the first armor plate. But in this case, the shell couldn’t even penetrate the first one, as if it were made of tungsten cardboard.
Official trials show about 40% reduction in penetration ability of projectile hit with "nozh" and were conducted on older projectiles, so as long as there is more then 400mm total pen it should go through
Very weird, previous simulation has shown that Nozh damages the penetrator, but it doesn’t completely disintegrate. US uranium and Russian tungsten alloy are not very different
The previously published Nozh simulation was the first experiment and is not accurate enough. I have already mentioned that in a real situation, the 3BM60 would cause significantly more damage to the composite armor.
Practice says the opposite, there is a video of the T-80 hitting the T-64BM in the frontal projection. Yes, the distance there was 500 meters, but the tank was destroyed. A video where the t-80 was standing behind trees, and the t-64 was moving along the road, the t-80 drove out, shot and destroyed.
gray is steel yellow is ceramic purle is rubber and black is DU ( depleded uranium) and this apfsds in front of a tank is the place where should apfsds hit
I think there is a small mistake, there is no T-64 Bulat. The "Bulat" is a derivative of the T80 = T-84-> "Bulat". In order to be able to export this tank at all, it was given a 120 mm on-board cannon. It never went into series production and only 10 or 12 examples were built. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
It is T-64BM bulat, it is a deep modernization of T-64b series. Export modification of T-84 has 120mm and is called T-84-120 Yatagan(scimitar). All rights for T-80 belong to Ukraine
У Абрамсов нет динамической защиты, потому и уничтожить базовые модели проще. Очень кстати неправильно недооценивать противника. Это всего лишь твое объективное мнение, что мол "все украинское = хреновое". На самом же деле - все значительно серьезнее. Осознание приходит в моменте, когда сталкиваешься с этим. И тогда у таких самоуверенных вроде тебя начинается паника. Потому что не были серьезно настроены. Вот так вся операция и захлебнулась в самом начале, ибо парадом пройти хотели до Киева. Факты.
@@AlexanderK9519 Probably because of the weight, as these are quite bulky, not to mention that i never saw anything involving shaped charge resistance of the Nizh ERA. Most tanks today use ERA mainly for HEAT protection, and only a couple have heavy ERA for boosting KE protection. I can also think of how much more dangerous these linear EFPs are compared to the forward-moving plate of an average ERA. When you consider that tanks today are very frequently used with infantry nearby, you could make a hit on a tank become dangerous on a much bigger area.
@@RustyBear There is literally no way to know that. There are several good quality images of destroyed T-64BM, few of them as there are/were. So it is not impossible that one of them was destroyed by enemy tank fire.
@@RustyBear But even if that is so, as I said in the comment above, real combat has proven that not any of this matters. Tanks are vulnerable on all sides but the front... In todays war there is dynamic threats from all directions and even from the top.
@@bittemeinrammstein yes and no. If u do small hit and run they can still be used to a great effect. But not like the Russians who send a tank just into one direction and let it die
@@RustyBear Actually that is not the case, and you dont understand the conflict if you think this. This is not conventional war, it is attritional/asymmetric war now because of drones, and modern ISR. It is actually much better tactically to send 1 or 2 tanks in one area to suppress enemy positions for small infantry units. Perhaps you missed that Ukrainians literally are ones which started that tactic in this conflict? Russians started to fight as if fighting from doctrine NATO vs. RU or cold war. Large formations, large convoys seizing objectives bypassing defensive lines and storming key areas, but Ukrainian asymmetric tactics made this difficult. Russians adapted to the new conditions. Ukrainians has lost nearly 50% of Abrams and 25% of Challengers sent to him by this same tactics now. Not to mention literally hundreds of T-64 and T-80 series.
For those who are upset about the outcomes of this simulation, I would like to clarify that this is an April Fools' simulation. I'm surprised that no one mentioned the release date of the video!
I think this video is Perfect. I told last time, and I will say again - Andrei bt - or btvt dot info. DIG in - there is all info that you need. There was a tests before with Tandem warhead from RPG-29, that penetrated 800+ test plate....there is pictures ! and tank side reactive armor where is two layers of NOZ, almost stops it. Only 30-40mm penetration was in tank side armor where is 80mm. There is also a pictures of OFL 120 F1 round…….that was cut in peaces ! Better make a M829A3 with T-84 OPLOT hull armor. Because there is a pic (Andrei bt page) where you can see two layers of NOZ in hull armor.
@@olgertshomics9088that was DUPLET ERA that cutted the projectile into pieces which is basically 3 layers of NOZH in the sides and 2 layers in the front
@@AlexanderK9519 For the test with OFL 120 F1 was one layer of NOZ. Please check your data. In Oplot tank side ERA blocks there is 3 layers....correct.
@@olgertshomics9088 that was DUPLET ERA not NOZH it wasn't one layer and i'm correct 3 layers on the sides and 2 layers in the front
@@olgertshomics9088 the era in this video were 2 duplet blocks which were six layers of nozh
I hope you do more videos in the future with nozh ERA, it’s so fascinating, so keep up the good work.
Nozh ERA is not as effective against APFSDS as this simulation shows. Many other simulation channels using more data show that Nozh ERA's shaped charges do not have the mass required to break through a tungsten rod, and is much more effective at disrupting the explosively formed jet of HEAT-FS and HEAT warheads in ATGMs.
No simulations of Nozh ERA on composite armours have been conducted before on the RUclips.
@@SimulationPlusthere is another channel that did a simulation of this era about a week ago
Тут нож еще по всей видимости и танк, который выстрелил уничтожил
@@SimulationPlus it still seems unlikely that the newest Russian shell would just get stone-walled like that (it didn't even get through the first armor plate!)
@@traydr-1609 что завидно?
I really doubt this penetration is accurate, nozh has been confirmed to break apart only old steel projectiles, 3bm60 would only be slightly damaged but not completely ripped apart as this simulation shows.
Bro its western biased channel when he used Relikt ERA against M829A3 it exploded before even touching the ERA while in these Simulation NOZH explodes at the right moment to disrupt the round completely and cut it off
@@AlexanderK9519 True, M829A4 was developed to defeat Relict, yet in his simulation A3 almost penetrated T-90M with Relict, while in this simulation 3BM60 (The best Russian round in service currently!!) didint even leave a dent in the T-64BM, which is for all intents and purproses, an old soviet era T-64BV with Nozh ERA slapped on it. I dont think Nozh is a bad ERA, but having the simulation show the best russian round not even penetrating the first plate is just straight up bias.
I have mentioned that in a real situation, the 3BM60 would cause significantly more damage to the composite armor.
@@quan-uo5ws only the 3BM42 was disrupted that much and it was against DUPLET which is basically three layers of NOZH, M829A4 would still find it a bit difficult to fully penetrate with RELIKT and the DUPLET respectively since they are too advanced and heavy ERA, there is a video where LOSAT failed to penetrate against RELIKT go check it far more accurate Simulation channels than these one
@@SimulationPlus why did the RELIKT ERA exploded when the tip of M829A3 didn't even touch it while with NOZH exploded at the perfect moment to disrupt the round? Since your videos are not accurate enough you shouldn't upload them spreading misinformation
The Ukrainian flag has changed the laws of physics. Great!
As expected, the cumulative jet damaged the projectile.
In the photographs from the tests we see a similar result.
that doesnt even look like ukraine's flag...
@@Edward-jf6sn in rea life the APFSDS would\ve done way more as even said by the youtuber
@@Edward-jf6snчушь собачья,симуляция предвзятая!
@@bogymann203конечно,это лживая симуляция!
can you do the same but T-90M vs duplet era? (Triple nizh basically on a turret with similar armour as T-90M)
if you will give supercomputer
Doesn't T-90M basically use the same round? Don't think much is going to be different
Very interesting.
Finally correct simulation !!! PS. Andrei bt page have also pictures from France Leclerc APFSDS rounds that was cut in peaces when rounds hit ERA blocks. Overall AMAZING WORK MAN ! Thanks
That was against DUPLET ERA which is basically two layers of NOZH and
OFL-120F1 is an old round not modern
It looks like the armour pulverized the Tungsten Penetrator. There is definitely Something wrong in this Simulation. Look like the hardness were the same of the penetrator and the Armour in your data
To counteract a cumulative jet, density and not hardness is important.
I think he used aluminum instead of tungsten and redused kinetic energy
Can you try to do a sabot casing vs m3 Bradly
Can you try now with 3bm59?
results would be mostly the same in this instance.
if you slice up the oncoming round then you take away most of its ability to penetrate.
the west had this type of armor a long time ago too, but didnt use it for 3 main reasons.
1st because its useless vs Heat.
2nd their wasn't really a need for it sense they could just change the armor packages on stuff like abrams or challenger with different materials, thicknesses, angles and layers.
3rd The big thing is the west retires its old MBTs, it doesnt keep wasting money upgrading them when they become hopelessly obsolete.
a modern (or even 30 year old) ATGM or Heat round will go right through this armor and knife type era no problem.
@@TheAngriestGamer.I don't think HEAT charges will do much of anything against THIS armor: this is the front armor. But top attack missiles can punch straight through the much weaker armor on top of the tank, since it's a lot weaker than this armor.
@@TheAngriestGamer. It is not useless vs HEAT. It destroys the cone and prevents the cumulative effect from forming.
@@JAnx01HOW TF WOULD IT DO THAT if to even activate, it needs to be struck by a heat round first??
meaning the heat round is already past the area that the blades would cut and has already detonated and punched through..
think man, you and NK-qn6qp chat bot need to use ur brain.
this type of ERA is PURE anti-dart, NOT anti heat, and its NOT a gen 3 hybrid era thats effective against both..
it ONLY works vs darts because darts are long, when the tip strikes the era and sets it off, the charges pop and slice up the rest of the dart..
None of that will work/apply to Heat which has already formed the jet and punched though, the act of doing so is what causes this ERA to activate and shocker, it will miss.
At 0:46 how do you slope air?
😂😂
Slobe*
Last time DU alloy was better. May be it's material itself or angle of impact mekes difference. Anyway 90 hours of computer proccessing is huge
where do you get actual data on latest sabot performance man
The voices in his head
What software do you use to compute the simulation? Does it only run on the CPU? There is a potential for much higher computational speed if the calculations could be offloaded to a higher-end video card, which possess very many cores relative to current Intel and AMD CPUs. Of course, if this software runs single-threaded (one core only), then a lot more work would be required to make it multi-thread. Just a thought, since you remarked that this simulation took 90 hours of computation time.
No simulation software will run on only the CPU, of course it runs on a gpu or more than one. Simulations like this are incredibly hard to make and very hard to render the insane amount of physics that goes and and to get it kind of correct
Whats the program used for these simulations?
if this system is so good, why doesn't anyone use it except Ukraine at exhibitions)))))
Why don't they buy a relikt? Why don't they sell the relikt?
Because the author takes these characteristics out of his head. And he doesn't even use them in all the videos. Coming up with new ones every time
@@Koterka
From which head?
There are more than a dozen photographs from the tests.
@@Edward-jf6snChina uses reversed engineered RELIKT known as FY-4 and the case is that why don't they use NOZH and most use K5 instead??
@@AlexanderK9519 Some countries don't use ERA at all, so what?
You lowered the projectile speed from 1660m/s to 1593m/s 3 bm 60
Looks like a crooked simulation. And in any other simulations, the projectile passes at least the first armor plate. But in this case, the shell couldn’t even penetrate the first one, as if it were made of tungsten cardboard.
No simulations of Nozh ERA on composite armour have been conducted before.
@@SimulationPlus I doubt that the material of this protection is denser than tungsten carbide, making it so easy to cut.
Official trials show about 40% reduction in penetration ability of projectile hit with "nozh" and were conducted on older projectiles, so as long as there is more then 400mm total pen it should go through
@@bardingorrekson6573so that means that 3bm60 goes straight through. Not surprising, considering its Russias best round in Ukraine.
There are real photographs from the test where a small dent remained from the 3bm42.
This for tank vs tank. But...
This is already similar to what we see in real photos and videos from tests.
爆発反応装甲ってマジで強いな
Very weird, previous simulation has shown that Nozh damages the penetrator, but it doesn’t completely disintegrate. US uranium and Russian tungsten alloy are not very different
Manufacturing processes are resulting in different quality ammunition
@@HDREal no way author got the info about manufacturing processes of tungsten APFSDS in US and Russia.
@@Спойлерщик You’re stating “us and Russian tungsten are not very different” I’m telling you their differences. Is it that hard to comprehend?
@@HDREal can you understand the sequence? Author shall not imply different quality unless there is data
The previously published Nozh simulation was the first experiment and is not accurate enough. I have already mentioned that in a real situation, the 3BM60 would cause significantly more damage to the composite armor.
Practice says the opposite, there is a video of the T-80 hitting the T-64BM in the frontal projection. Yes, the distance there was 500 meters, but the tank was destroyed. A video where the t-80 was standing behind trees, and the t-64 was moving along the road, the t-80 drove out, shot and destroyed.
Это первоапрельская шутка, ясно любому что 90 разворотит эту 64
gray is steel yellow is ceramic purle is rubber and black is DU ( depleded uranium) and this apfsds in front of a tank is the place where should apfsds hit
I think there is a small mistake, there is no T-64 Bulat. The "Bulat" is a derivative of the T80 = T-84-> "Bulat". In order to be able to export this tank at all, it was given a 120 mm on-board cannon. It never went into series production and only 10 or 12 examples were built. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
It is T-64BM bulat, it is a deep modernization of T-64b series.
Export modification of T-84 has 120mm and is called T-84-120 Yatagan(scimitar). All rights for T-80 belong to Ukraine
@@віталійовсянніков-ф7с I wouldnt say all rights of T-80 belong to Ukraine as most parts are/were manufactured in Russia
Bulat is made from T-64B .T-84 is OPLOT made from T-80UD
When u try to correct ppl but are wrong 🫵🤡🤓
And again it reminds me "Only God forgives" movie becase of the music
Pancerz reaktywny Noż wygląda na bardzo dobre zabezpieczenie przed 3BM60 SWINIEC...tak to wygląda na symulacji...ciekawe
Собственно ничего удивительного, СССР делал ломы против западной техники, а запад против советской техники
april fool's huh
i swear this is not how it would be
Бред... Т 72 с первого выстрела уничтожил Абрамс! А тут украинская рухлядь... 😂
из окопы скулишь? Тебе сидя на диване с пивным животом виднее мамкин аналитик
@@gory8352HAHAHA
У Абрамсов нет динамической защиты, потому и уничтожить базовые модели проще. Очень кстати неправильно недооценивать противника. Это всего лишь твое объективное мнение, что мол "все украинское = хреновое". На самом же деле - все значительно серьезнее. Осознание приходит в моменте, когда сталкиваешься с этим. И тогда у таких самоуверенных вроде тебя начинается паника. Потому что не были серьезно настроены. Вот так вся операция и захлебнулась в самом начале, ибо парадом пройти хотели до Киева. Факты.
Apfsds de hojalata
Ukrainian tank makers are quite creative
Why there is no country using NOZH and DUPLET ERA instead??
@@AlexanderK9519 Probably because of the weight, as these are quite bulky, not to mention that i never saw anything involving shaped charge resistance of the Nizh ERA. Most tanks today use ERA mainly for HEAT protection, and only a couple have heavy ERA for boosting KE protection.
I can also think of how much more dangerous these linear EFPs are compared to the forward-moving plate of an average ERA. When you consider that tanks today are very frequently used with infantry nearby, you could make a hit on a tank become dangerous on a much bigger area.
@@AlexanderK9519NIZH 🤓
@@RustyBear 🤡
Эта ДЗ не так работает. Совершенно
Читать умеешь? АПРЕЛЬСКИЕ ПРИКОЛЫ!
А как?
As real war has shown... Not a bit of this matters at all. lol
There was never a T-64BM Bulat destroyed by a tank lol
@@RustyBear There is literally no way to know that. There are several good quality images of destroyed T-64BM, few of them as there are/were. So it is not impossible that one of them was destroyed by enemy tank fire.
@@RustyBear But even if that is so, as I said in the comment above, real combat has proven that not any of this matters. Tanks are vulnerable on all sides but the front... In todays war there is dynamic threats from all directions and even from the top.
@@bittemeinrammstein yes and no. If u do small hit and run they can still be used to a great effect. But not like the Russians who send a tank just into one direction and let it die
@@RustyBear Actually that is not the case, and you dont understand the conflict if you think this. This is not conventional war, it is attritional/asymmetric war now because of drones, and modern ISR. It is actually much better tactically to send 1 or 2 tanks in one area to suppress enemy positions for small infantry units. Perhaps you missed that Ukrainians literally are ones which started that tactic in this conflict? Russians started to fight as if fighting from doctrine NATO vs. RU or cold war. Large formations, large convoys seizing objectives bypassing defensive lines and storming key areas, but Ukrainian asymmetric tactics made this difficult. Russians adapted to the new conditions. Ukrainians has lost nearly 50% of Abrams and 25% of Challengers sent to him by this same tactics now. Not to mention literally hundreds of T-64 and T-80 series.
what type of drugs did the author use during the creation of the simulation?)))
Biases😂
Сомнительно, но окей
Learn english and maybe you wont have to make such comments
Lmao russian bots crying in the comments is just hilarious
ruclips.net/video/RyZOJtOQoaI/видео.htmlsi=ugrqUSO8KZBr3plJ Compare. From the same author. Don't you notice anything?
If its so powerful and good why nobody use NOZH except Ukraine😂😂
@@AlexanderK9519 because everyone produces it by themselves. I know you are russian but i wasn’t expecting you to be this tarded
You realize this is an April’s Fools video right? the only clown here is you lil bro
literally an April fools joke video lil bro took this so seriously lol so susceptible to propaganda