This should be required watching for anyone wanting to talk about this conflict. We can have different opinions but those opinions can't be based on missing essential facts.
True. Though even Bill messed up some of this info. For instance, he didn't mention that JORDAN was specifically set aside for Arab Muslims. THAT is their country. Not Israel. Not Palestine. And there was NOT genocide "on both sides" re: Israel and Arab Muslims-- the Jews/Israelis have NEVER practiced ethnic cleansing, whereas Islam DEMANDS ethnic cleansing and Muslims have obliged. And the Jews did NOT force all or most Muslims to leave Palestine when Israel was established. These Arabs were told to leave by surrounding ARAB LEADERSHIP so that the Arabs could then attack Israel and kick the Jews out. The Jews did NOT "kick them out."
@@cw4623 You don't get to rewrite history. The United Nations planned a partition for Israel and Palestine between 1947-48. Over 3/4 of a million Palestinians have been displaced In 1948 by the Israelis and thousands were massacred, so yes it is ethnic cleansing. Look up the definition. Look up the definition. You claim that the Arabs left by order of Arab leaders so that the soldiers could fight, which means they did the opposite of using human shields. Commendable! What else would a leader do when their people are being driven out by armies of savages? Would that leader ask them to stay and get killed? If Islam demands ethnic cleansing why has it spread across ethnicities from Indonesia to Guinea, with the statement of Prophet Muhammad saying no non-Arab is superior to an Arab or an Arab to a non-Arab except by status of character, yet Jews gatekeep their ethnoreligion by saying Jews can only be Jews if their mother was a Jew, and despise the goyim? And why have Islamic caliphates, from the Rashidun to the Ottoman, rescued Jews from the Christian Crusaders who killed them and drove them out?
@@cw4623 That is true. Israel wanted to live in peace with its neighbors. The 5 surrounding Arab Muslim countries did not want any Jewish state “not even the size of a napkin” 5 Arab countries joined together to attack the new State of Israel in 1948 Jordan ethnically
The fact is nobody is going 'back' to anywhere; we're all in this together. Even the most racist Mexicans/Chicanos (I've met some who absolutely hate gringos) admit that "Reconquista" is simply not going to happen.
You mean to tell me history isn’t a purely binary equation of light-skinned oppressors and dark-skinned oppressed?? My Gen Z sense of righteous indignation is triggered!!
When it happens over 1000 years is one thing but when white people bulldoze Arab land to make way for those who once long ago lived there is absolutely wrong and bill is a hypocrite
All civilizations have done it, but the modern Leftist view is that minorities are children who don't know any better. Their idea is that white people are the adults in the room who should have known better. That's why it's wrong for Washington to have owned slaves (he should have known), but not wrong for Mohammed (he couldn't have been expected to). Patronizing Racism is the flavor of the day. Only real idiots still practice the old hateful kind.
you're joking, right? maher is a terrorist. he says it's okay for zionists to comit genocide because other regimes over the centries have done done the same crime.
I’m an Arab and I agree 100% .I’m a Christian and we have lived with the same cruelty the Palestinians are having now .i know what it feels like to be a minority in your own country .So I left and Live in a Free society .Thank you Australia
As a long time viewer of the show, I must say this is one of the best New Rules I have seen in years. When discussing geopolitics, people often don’t look into the long, complicated history of the places in question, leaving out vital context to the modern situation. More importantly, those people will also forget that there are many past examples of similar situations in history that can help us get a nuanced perspective on the current conflict. To the people reading this comment, please share this Bill Maher video so more people can better understand the Israel-Hamas War.
@@Coderdawg Yea, cause he it ain't relevant to what he is speaking? You can list a laundry list of things that Palestinian are going through right now after their dumass leaders decided to attack the sixth ranked nuclear power. I swear, y'all think war is some game played with rules or something. Newsflash it ain't. Especially when you prompt one with a low blow.
Small problem with Bills “land grab, get over it”. In his Mexico example, millions of “Mexicans” were integrated as labor as Americans. That was a win/win. Land has people in it. What is the Bill/Israel solution to the people on this land? That was conveniently omitted. (I’ll wait). Edit: And by the way…wasn’t Hitler just a land grabber? Should we have said: “get over it France”. Edit2: Before you jump to conclusions, I am an atheist, and think religious conflict / death are people dying for fairy tales. And I keep seeing atheists like Bill Maher, and Sam Harris offer NO REAL SOLUTIONS, other than allow them to “bias hedge” out of saying what will eventually happen: killing of Palestinians for a land grab. It might be slow, but that is what is going on. Just admit. I’m tired of this avoidance talk.
The arabs could have stayed, it was in the Israeli independence constitution or something. Many stayed and became citizen with equal rights, and those who fled were under other arabs countries who kept them as refugees.
The occupied territories are now part of Israel. Israel needs to end the apartheid and give their Palestinian population the vote so they have Palestinians to negotiate with.
eventually they will win, the Muslims do not think in terms of winning and losing, they think about doing the right thing, if they win they win and get a reward from God, and if they lose, they still get a reward from God for trying. But they will never give up.
@@johnsolodovesky582But that is not what Islam teaches! Islam is a religion that emphasizes the importance of perseverance but it also instructs one to accept reality: > Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, said: “If something befalls you, do not say: ‘If I had only done such and such.’ Instead say: ‘It is as God decreed and He does what He pleases’”.
Palestinians are Muslim and Christian, though, so it's different. I think it's more like black people in South Africa. They live in an apartheid state now, but one day they will free to travel from the Sea to the Jordan River the same way Jews can now. It's a question of equality. @@johnsolodovesky582
Who would've thought Buddhist nationalists would expel over 1 million Rohingya Muslim initiated by Aung San Suu Kyi, a Nobel Peace laureate now finding herself imprisoned while the purge continues.
Same thing for the Asians. The mongols killed the most people worldwide (proportionally speaking) when they colonized most of the world and built one the largest empires in history.
Reading some of the comments below, I do believe a detailed history of the world, going back to ancient times, which states all the facts, needs to be taught in schools. Clearly, there are a lot of people who also don't know how to use a library to look up old newspaper articles, as well. It never fails to amaze me how so many people would rather believe gossip than find out the facts of the matter! Thank you, Bill, for at least trying to educate them.
If you think these are facts, you are clearly deluded. This is a hugely convenient way of glossing over history and is symptomatic of the American education system. Do you know how Ireland 'just lost its tip'? Through continued organised resistance against its colonisers. That's how. Could you imagine saying this when tens of thousands of people - men, women and children are dying and millions of people are being displaced as we speak? Regardless of your views at least show some damn respect. Shame on you Bill Maher.
I guess I just find his argument pretty flawed and so I find it frustrating to hear people validate it in the comments. Sure, it sounds good with a laugh track and a few visuals but it's telling that he failed to mention countries like Rhodesia, Uganda or Somaliland that were former British colonies (just as so called Israel was under British mandated Palestine) before they were decolonised. I agree, people in these comments don't have a clue and need to read more. You know how Americans love to talk about why the west needs to back Israel because they're the underdog outlier in the Middle East? People used to talk about Rhodesia in a similar way until they went rogue. Israel is going down the same path to rogue statehood in my opinion. Anyway, I used to like Bill. His centre left politics always had a pragmatic approach that I appreciated. It's just too bad he's become a zionazi mouthpiece.
The Muslims literally built a mosque on top of a Jerusalem temple Muslims aren't angry about conquest or stealing land They're just angry when other people do it to them
Kashmir valley was 100% Hindu just about 900 years ago today it is 100% Moslem and the last remnants of Hindus were driven out by Muslims in 1989 when the familiar phrase "flee convert or die" was blaring from the loudspeakers atop mosque minarets.
Muslims don't want peace They just want to win.. They aren't angry at conquest They're angry at other people conquering them.. But Muslims were all too happy to conquer everyone else Islam is not a legitimate religion it's a death cult. Centered around violently conquering the whole world.. And the world cannot move forward and coexist with Islam. Arabs maybe. But Islam? No
@@MrJohn424242 I don't think that was the point. I think the poster was pointing out the mindset. The "we're all basically alike" philosophy has some fatal flaws.
If Arafat had signed any kind of agreement with Israel, he wouldn't have made it back to his hotel room. Reference Sadat getting whacked if you are unsure of this.
@@mrwevans Ya, the extremists get a veto in Israel, which is solidly half the problem. And both sides have their own version of "from the river to the sea" mentality. This will go on until the Arab Muslims get the demographic advantage - roughly end of century.
@@markw999Sadat has a legacy of 40+ years of peace with Israel. He would have died again if he knew it meant lasting peace. Sadat is a real leader. Not the Hamas cowards siphoning billions in aid from their Qatar penthouses.
"War's end with negotiation, and what the media glosses over is that Its hard to negotiate when the other side's bargaining position is that you all die and disappear" I agree with Bill on this comment!!!
Fact. I think Sun Tzu was the one who said essentially that a cornered cat will fight viciously. But if you give them an escape, they’ll use it. Same in negotiations. Give your opponent an option that will actually be good for them and they may take it.
Why should the palestenians negotiate their land? There was no israel before 1948. Before Theodor Herzl jews were less than 10% of the population. Imagine Mexicans invading and we negotiate 80% of the land to them. It's silly.
Someone tell Bill that Israel isn't interested and probably never was, in a two state solution. Seems like all he reads are western headlines without going into substance.
@@ChrisAlbertH47Israel agreed to it several times in the past but the other side declined every time. During these times though I don't think it's an option anymore.
@@ofrikalif4938 not even close to the same thing and I think you know that. Invoking the Holocaust, one of, if not the worst genocide and stains on humanity, just shows that you can't see nuance - and that 30,000 lives don't matter to you. I'm pro Israel, I'm pro jewish, I'm Pro Palestine, I'm pro any type of religious expression that doesn't harm others. But most importantly I'm pro human being especially defenseless young children. And you glossing over the at least 13,000 CHILDREN that have been murdered in Gaza is deplorable. And furthermore, this may be a well done piece and I hope it's educational for many. but hearing it from Bill Maher who has been spewing islamophobic rhetoric for YEARS is tough to swallow.
@@forblogssakedotorg2448Hamas admitted those numbers are not true it’s more around 23k and almost half are directly connected to Hamas and the others aren’t innocent and that’s a fact
@@PrimoStracciatella Bethlehem is mentioned 50 times in the Bible and not once in the Quran. Palestine was the name given to Israel by the Romans in the 3rd century. It was a snub to the Jewish people.
Millions of Germans after WW2 were not only violently expelled from Czechoslovacia but from actual German territory like East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia. Those German territories added up for one quarter of the former German territory and were annexed by Poland and Russia. What Bill considers parts of Poland or Russia was actual German territory until WW2. Most of those people worked hard building up a new life in the remaining parts of Germany.
That is something people don't understand. If you lose wars you lose territory. That was the norm then and should be now. 5:45 Germany can consider itself lucky that the country still exists today the way it does. Just as Palestine can be lucky to exist after losing the 1967 war.
That's what you get when you loose a war. After what Germany did to Europe they're lucky they're still even a country. They should have been occupied themselves. Go to Aushwitz, see what they did to people and tell me you still feel sorry for those 'expelled' Germans. Btw if you look further into history, East Prussia was given to the Teutonic Order by the Polish king at the time and after it turned out they were ungrateful assholes they were made into a Polish Vassal.
@@Adam-uu9twDisagree about the part that Germany can be lucky to still exist. There was too many German people to hold them back from having a country. Trying so would have caused a constant civil war like conflict. Look, we can’t even hold back Taliban from ruling Afghanistan. 🤷♂️ Furthermore back then the importance of Germany for world economics was way bigger than today. Would have badly impacted global welfare
You could argue that Germans never elected Hitler into power. He was made chancellor after what was considered a defeat for the NAZI party and even in the last elections, already under Hitlers rule and controlled by SA thugs they did not reach an absolute majority, I think it was like 43% or sth like that.
No Muslim was forced to leave when Israel was founded. In the constitution of Israel it states that they hope the Muslims will stay and build the nation of Israel alongside the Jews. All the calls for Muslims to leave Israel came from Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, etc.
Actually, about 700,000 Muslim were expelled from Israel for good reason after the 1948 war of independence but 200, 000 were allowed to stay and most of the ones expelled were later allowed to return.
That's why I like your shows Bill.. you dig up the truth and shove it right up the throats of the ignorants and deniers. I as a Muslim myself want to know the truth. They can point their fingers at others but it's the corrupt leaders of the Arab world who have caused the sufferings upon their people. No one of them has the courage to admit it.
@zeemanzeeman5577 Why isn’t he telling this message to the Arab world? Why is he telling Western people that they rule and therefore should take over the world?
Arabs have their own evil history of severe sexism & racism & slavery. Like real bad. REAL bad. They still poison & kill girls for going to school (Iran who backs Hamas who nuts prefer over Israel) They’re using black people to this day by making them stop focusing on real issues black Americans are facing to help advocate for a region that also enslaved them. It’s a scam
Could you please put Arabic translations? Arabs and Muslims also need a big dose of reality. I an Arab and an exmuslim, and this video would benefit from watching this. ❤❤❤
Not so much a joke. Listen to Mexican entertainers, and when they talk about "take it back" and "we are the majority minority," the audiences don't erupt in laughter but in boisterous cheers. I've heard it. Learn Spanish, it will serve you well.
@@gymnosva I'm Mexican, believe me, no one is going to send terrorists to the States or starting a war to "recover" the land. Yes, there are some idiots with resentment over there, but no one is planning an "intifada".
I'm jewish and Israeli and first of all I would like to thank you and your team for speaking up, so thank you all. 1:34 Note: After the war of 1947, any Arab who chose to stay in Israel land got a citizenship, aka equal rights. Those who didn't want to stay, moved to the neighboring countries (who started the war on the Jews as a part of the very old trend of ethnic cleansing all Jews), and most got citizenship (which means they are not refugees! but are still claimed to be refugees by some organizations to this day, which is unheard of). Those who didn't chose either, had to live in the land under military, until this was also removed from Gaza Strip and (the terror organization) Hamas was democratically elected. Three facts in addition to that for more context for those who care to learn: 1. 'Palestine': derives from ancient Greek 'Philistia'. Philistines are the biblical Enemies of the Israelites, which tried to do what? ethnically cleanse the Jews (you can read all about 'the timeline of the name Palestine' in wikipedia). 2. 'Apartheid' claims: Israel is the only democratic state in the entire Middle East - where all of us, jews muslims christians druze can live as equals (yoseph haddad
I appreciate you trying to present the facts, but history has shown that facts do not matter to ignorant people who love believing what they already believe. You're trying to convince people who think masturbating is the same as having real sex that they are really not having sex.
@@dagduesund5175 Thank you for appreciating the effort. Let me ask you, how do you think these subjects should be discussed? Quote: "but history has shown that facts do not matter to ignorant people who love believing what they already believe. you're trying to convince people who think masturbating is the same as having real sex that they are really not having sex." In my perspective, this belittles and sexually shames "these people". Not only is it disrespectful but it is also dehumanizing, as you and I both don't even know who "these people" are personally. I truly believe we need to take responsibility for the way we communicate, in all forms. I love the quote of this judge who said "חופש הביטוי הוא לא חופש הביזוי״, which might not rhyme in translation to English but still is true: Freedom of Speech is not Freedom of Disdain (or Contemn). Hope this message will convey my well-intentions. I know how frustrating this whole situation is, I know hopelessness and I know loss. I actually am a Jewish person from Israel, so please believe me when I say: *I know...* And I know this as well: we gotta keep it together, we have to stay human especially in times we face inhumanity. Be safe and well \o/
@@tigress1girl Do not know how to approach those people who refuse to believe the truth. The modern Israel has been a country for what, about 75 years or so, there has never been an independent "Palestine", Gaza has been on its own for the last 15-20 years or whatever and still, we are where we are. A quote attributed to C.K. Chesterton seems to describe this situation "When people stop believing in God they do not believe in nothing, they will believe anything. Getting people to stop believing in false gods that make them feel good about themselves is one high mountain to climb.
@@dagduesund5175 Humanity will only be able to access Truth by accepting we can only be aware of the “Relative Truth”. We thought the world was flat, for example, until discovered otherwise. I find it fascinating you chose a quote about believing in god, because respectfully I believe that as much as the belief in a god can be for some (and not all) part of the solution, it can also be harmful and part of the problem we face today. Specifically, in some religious circles and schoolings, there's a lack of dialogue about scripts that are being held as sacred. Therefore, as history has shown time and time again, there are many people who committed crimes against humanity while claiming that their doings are "God's will". I think that in this conversation, as it's important to recognize some specific scripts can heal, it's also important to shine a light on the dark places, where specific scripts can actually do harm. The Jewish people being called “the People of the Book” also speak about keeping the dialogue alive, which we do also with continuous writings and interpretations. I’d like to add one very known phrase (and principle) in the Jewish culture which is: “דֶּרֶךְ אֶרֶץ קָדְמָה לַתּוֹרָה”. The first two words ‘דֶּרֶךְ אֶרֶץ’ (‘Derech Eretz’) literal translation ‘The way of the Land’, and the meaning of the full phrase translates to “Proper universal ethical behavior precedes the Torah.” No matter which religion, it’s a matter of the sake of humanity itself to be able to criticize specific harmful scripts, even if people hold them sacred, and with that comes healing a lot of the hate and violence we can find. If we look at the antisemitism that arrives from some Islamic people and groups, it’s important to note how it in fact has roots in the Quran. One example: "Thou wilt surely find the most hostile of men to the believers are the Jews and the idolaters." (5:85) = Jews are hostile to Muslims. Another example: "And He brought down those of the People of the Book who supported them from their fortresses and cast terror in their hearts; some you slew, some you made captive. And He bequeathed upon you their lands, their habitations, and their possessions, and a land you never trod. God is powerful over everything." (33:26) = An indication of the battles against the Jews, and a divine authorization to kill them. There is a concept in Judaism of ‘Tikkun Olam’ (תִּיקּוּן עוֹלָם = 'repairing of the world'), which refers to various forms of action intended to repair, heal and improve the world; to the pursuit of universal justice which based on the idea that "Jews bear responsibility not only for their own moral, spiritual, and material welfare, but also for the welfare of society at large.” Humanity has a total need - spiritual, emotional, psychological, physical, logical need - of connection to something bigger than ourselves (be it a Justice, God, Collective etc), finding meaning and belonging. This journey can be beautifully sacred as much as hopelessly devastating. I believe truth can be accessible with empathetic, engaging and knowledgeable communication; through encouragement of curiosity, of questions in the dialogue itself. And I choose to have faith in humanity. I maintain faith in humanity, including my own self. It doesn’t mean I don’t have boundaries, priorities, etc. And it doesn’t mean it comes easy to me, somedays it feels impossible. Yet without it, personally and with all seriousness, I have no reason to live. Rephrasing that with hope and love, it is my cherished reason to live, and pursue life that is worthy of living.
Thank you for talking about Muslim colonization. As a person born and raised in the Muslim community, the atrocities of Islamic conquest is grossly romanticized.
The later muslims i do not speak for. Im sure they were just like any other conquerer. But the initial muslims didnt conquer to kick people out. They let people live their lives as they pleased and didnt force anything on anyone.
@@wahmad8211lol Muslims committed the worst genocide in the whole human history of non-muslim people from their beginning in 7th century. And it still goes on. They never ever let someone else “just live” with them. If they didn’t do it immediately, they just multiplied until they became strong enough to cleanse non-muslims.
@@wahmad8211 The problem with conquest isn't kicking people out per se. The problem is in the process of attacking/killing a people for not being governed under the shariah, not stopping your attack until you rule them under the shariah, then taking prisoners of war as slaves and sex slaves. This is something that existed since the first wars fought in the name of Islam. In Islam, there are three ways of getting new slaves: 1. Prisoner of war that did not convert to Islam. 2. Slave market 3. When two slaves that you own have a child According to the Quran, when a prisoner of war is bought as a slave and they are female, they become a sex slave as well: "those who guard their chastity [5] except with their wives or those ˹bondwomen˺ in their possession, for then they are free from blame [6]" (Quran 23:5-6) Islam permits slavery today, but the UN forced many Muslim countries to abolish slavery in the 20th century after the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
Even the Turks are not acting like they should have their empire back, or the Austro-Hungarians, or the Brits, the Spanish, or the French. The Russians are struggling to hold onto their empire. The Chinese and the Americans and the muslims have huge empires and are holding onto them.
as a korean i was always taught, the world is not fair. live with it. try to fix it bit by bit though. you got to learn to live in an unfair world first, then deal with the unfairness
Bro the Palestinians are fighting to survive, they are literally getting killed, little kids are getting blown up. You telling them to learn to live in an "unfair world" is pretty stupid.
Bro, the Palestinians had multiple chances for peace with very generous concessions and their leadership said no. Life is about compromise. If you are not willing to compromise then deal with the consequences. @@shafqatmahmud4035
so why did thousands of koreans fought and died against Japanese oppression?? Why didn't they just give up and "learn to live" with the "unfair" world. Why are you fighting against North Koreans then? Why don't you just give up and let the supreme leader rule over you.? Don't be a hypocrite.
Realistically, this problem persists because the Arab countries surrounding Israel want it to persist. The reasons may be more complex than: "it's always good to have a bogeyman to distract from our oppression of our population," but, like many other countries in the past, they could have been more accepting of their "brethren" displaced from Israel & helped them to start new lives. That wasn't part of the plan, the Arab countries forced the Palestinians to live in refugee camps, they denied them the opportunity to start new lives & apparently all for the purpose of keeping Jews & Israel as "the bogeyman."
This is correct. If you read the memoirs of the then Syrian president at the time, he actually admits this, saying they (the various Arab governments) said they would be going back in a few years and they never did... remaining second class citizens in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria...
There's so much you're protected from knowing in the US. Netanyahu as recently as 2019 said it was Israel's strategy to bolster Hamas against the PLO to use the chaos to take Palestinian land. Israel's government has a radical religious fanatical ambition of taking all of the West Bank and Gaza, by ethnic cleansing. I have no sympathy for the surrounding Arab countries, but why is it their fault that the survivors of a Holocaust use rhetoric akin to what Hitler used to take another land that isn't theirs?
While all that is true, let's go back to the source, and that source is Islamic Jew hatred, straight out of their book. It also doesn't help that PA leaders are getting filthy rich by continuing the conflict. Trump nipped it in the bud by cutting their funding, but the current cabal fake president undid it all. After all, it and the Muslim Brotherhood have a common goal.
Exactly. Unfortunately there were 10s maybe 100s millions people displaced in the conflicts. Could someone name another precedent of permanent refugees camps? It's more about hate to the Jewish state than love to Palestinian brothers.
Pure lies. Bill sold out on 9/11 2001 when he noted it was an inside job, than switched into Supporting the most violent people in the world. Israel-USA. Bill is a bought and paid for liar for the demonic forcing endless war on humanity. Israel controls USA Government and Bill Bahr. Hamas in not and was not in Gaza. Israel faked this arrack on Israel and even killed their own soldier to make them look like Victims. Today Those Vicims family's know Israel killed their family member.
What’s sad is how many people posted comments here who are obviously very antagonistic toward Maher and the Jews. Equity these days is not extended to Whites and Jews. It’s a sick time that we’re all living in right now. 😢
@@MathematicalCowboy Equity you say? What would be the reaction to a war where 1200 Palestinians died compared to 18-20,000 Jews? What would be the reaction to Jews being pushed off of land in Palestine/Israel that they had farmed and lived on for generations and forced to live in refugee camps for decades? I think the H word would be tossed around quite a bit more, not to mention many more heavy American munitions!
@@danknibloe3114 It's not a numbers game. The Palestinians started a war, and they haven't surrendered yet, the number could have been 100 Palestinians if they surrendered on day 1. Israel didn't force the Palestinians to live in refugee camps. The Arabs did. If they didn't start a war in 1948 likely most of them would still be on their land and Israeli citizens. You can't have it both ways.
@@danknibloe3114Surrounding Arab countries get no blame? Accept their Muslim brother and sisters, open up those border and stop funding this war, then the death count would have been much lower. Everything cannot be on Israel. You need nuance perspective, otherwise you lack peace.
There's a lot of historical inaccuracies - such as that the West Bank alone was the "original UN partition deal" (it is only about a 1/3 of what was promised to the Palestinians in 1947 which itself is less than a third of what they had pre-Zionism), or that Jews were kicked out of Muslim countries post-1948 (only Syria, the vast majority of the Jewish migration was willingly to the new Jewish state to do "Aliyah" and take advantage of land incentives), or that Palestine attacked again and again and lost (the six-day war was started by Israel), or misrepresentations "Arafat was offered 95% of the West Bank" (the Palestinians were not offered the most important part - Jerusalem. And the West Bank at the very least should be wholly Palestine - annexing even more of it through a peace deal is ridiculous.)
@@joshitheyoshi2533 Completely inaccurate take. Arafat was unwilling to negotiate at all and demanded complete sovereignty over all of Jerusalem. It’s not brain science; Arabs have been calling for the destruction of Israel for decades. Now they’ll get nothing. How’s that working for you? “The Palestinians demanded complete sovereignty over East Jerusalem and its holy sites, in particular, the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, which are located on the Temple Mount (Haram al-Sharif), a site holy in both Islam and Judaism, and the dismantling of all Israeli neighborhoods built over the Green Line. The Palestinian position, according to Mahmoud Abbas, at that time Arafat's chief negotiator, was that: "All of East Jerusalem should be returned to Palestinian sovereignty. The Jewish Quarter and Western Wall should be placed under Israeli authority, not Israeli sovereignty.” -Wikipedia
@@user-cv7en6ef6d but the land wasn't promised to them by God, or their "allah". Nearly 3,000 years ago the Bible actually recorded God's promise of the land to Israel though, that's roughly 2 millennia before Islam was even a thing!
@@trjohnson57 just so know more than 7 billion people don't believe in the Torah and don't think that Jews have a case. Even if you take this case to any supreme court, it won't pass.
Ok so why is it not justified for Russia and china ? TAIWAN is part of China legally . Why is China a concern ? China survived holocaust in WW2 as well so it's double justified
Settler colonies where the Settlers do not become the overwhelming majority of the population inevitably revert to Indigenous Political Contral. Learn about Rhodesia because history is about to repeat itself.
Exactly right. Don't justify what's happening in the present by bringing up the past "This is what happened back then so what's the difference?" People are catching on. That's the difference. You learn from your mistakes and change. You don't repeat them.
liberal/zionists will say never again, that they would’ve fought the nazis had they been there at the time. yet today they turn a blind eye to a genocide being perpetrated by a fascist ethno-state.
@@danielmiller9012That still doesn't explain why this can't be shown on CNN. It's just Bill editorializing and giving his opinions on topic he's not familiar with.
"Things change, countries change, deal with it." It almost sounds like Bill is saying "might is right". So in that case don´t cry when Europe is run by middle eastern and african people in the next century. Just deal with it. Accept it and move on. Right?
@1001LeoMessi The original Greeks were really what we would call Middle Eastern. The prosperous ones lived in Asia Minor followed by the Roman's. The Muslims conquered the Balkans. The Saxons and French conquered England. Life goes on. Just what is the Palestinian resistance actually accomplishing today. Israel has a right to exist and is not going away.
Actually Bill. it wasn't unjust that some Arab family had to move in 1948. You see, lots of Arab families didn't have to move at all - they are still living in the same places inside Israel that they lived in - in 1948. Those were the ones who didn't grab weapons and attack their Jewish neighbors. The ones who DID attack in 1948, but lost the war had to move.
What a lie. So zionists would have allowed a majority of Arab muslims within Israel borders? They didnt tell Palestinians to leave their homes so that they can create a Jewish majority state?
You want to convince somebody that somehow the 750.000 Palestinians all picked up weapons before getting displaced? How come that less than 10.000 Jews died in 1948 war?
@@susannacollinson9821 I couldn't help but roll my eyes at the ignorance. You do know that there are Arab members of the Knesset, the ruling body of Israel, ever since it's first elections, right? And just to be clear, by Arab I mean that they spoke arabic and are muslim, so no, they are not Jews.
@@susannacollinson9821 You are surprised that non-citizens who live outside the borders of a nation can't vote ? Only the United States is dumb enough to allow non-citizens to vote.
This monolog is sooo true.. It reflects exactly what I think.. and I am a Jew from Tunisia so I know what I am talking about. I wish more muslims and Palestinians would watch this!!
How's not accepting Israel's very existence working out for them? “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ” Albert Einstein
You can't have peace unless you accept civil coexistence. It doesn't mean we forget, but it does me we forgive, for the sake of our neighbors, our children, our future.
@digitalmop It 's always the people who've never had to take an L that say forgive without contrition and recompense. Whites and asians usually groups that of they've experiences any losses were mitigated by the fact that they paid it forward to someone else.
A little drunken advice if I may,... stop making everthing about skin color... this belieft causes believer to take the all the worst of it. Everything is not about Race!!! I promise. We are all indivuals dammit! @@LouisAWheatJr
Right now Israel zealot settlers are violently expanding ilegal settlements in the West Bank with IDF backing and we wonder why HAMAS is getting more popular.
There is the story of a bloke who stood next to a wall, bashing his head against the wall. Someone came by and asked him, why. His response was, that it was so nice when he stops. The Palestinians have not yet realised that last bit.
Facts and history are racist. They are also all propaganda. We should only follow propaganda if it comes from TikTok or a protest sign. Then it is righteous truth. Sorry, sarcasm is my default humor anymore, lol But I do find it sad how many people that clamor for tolerance and diversity seem so uninterested in history and context. I guess just human nature though, all of us like feeding our bias and blocking out anything that challenges it. Do love this clip though, people seeing both sides of every issue is the only starting point for peace. In any situation. Too many are so one sided in everything it, and most media only seems to want that to be the case.
Ahhh yes, such a brilliant piece by Bill. By this logic, just let Russia take what they want...including Alaska. It's the natural progression of things, right? 😂😂
But Europeans forced spread Christianity by the sword they forced Jesus on everyone Africans South Americans North Americans Asians Pacific Islanders Oceania the whole world they forced Jesus on everyone 😂😂😂
My ancestors were Swabian Germans who migrated to Hungary in the mid 1800's and lived together as Germans but spoke Hungarian outside the home for generations. After WWII Russia had possession of Hungary and an Ethnic persecution began of the Germans. In total, 239,000 Swabian Germans were forced to leave Hungary. It is estimated that 11,000 ethnic Germans civilians lost their lives during the expulsions. This has been the way of the world for nearly the entire history of humanity.
I am very sorry your ancestors and other Swabians had to go through that ordeal. No one should be persecuted for their culture, ethnicity, or language, and just because this type of persecution is ubiquitous throughout history doesn’t mean it’s inevitable and doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be fought. I think that what Bill is arguing comes dangerously close to “might makes right.” Just because things happen often doesn’t mean they’re okay or should be considered acceptable. It’s true that both Israelis and Palestinians have harmed each other, but two wrongs do not make a right. It is important to consider the scale of harm done on both sides during these conflicts, especially in recent times. For example, in this current conflict, 1400 Israelis were killed, and in response 20400 Gazans were killed. Or, in 2018 and 2019, when 200 or so Palestinians, most of whom were nonviolently protesting, were killed by the IDF, even though no Israelis were killed. I think that in recent years, Israel has shown a trend of responding disproportionately to conflicts in ways that engender more hatred and mistrust toward the Israeli government within the occupied Palestinian territories. Palestinians live under constant surveillance and restriction from the outside world, and they face forced eviction, brutalization, murder, and a lack of economic opportunity. They are not in a position to work toward peace if they are constantly struggling to get food on the table or to keep their homes from becoming part of settlements. In order to truly move toward peace, I think that the Israeli government should show Palestinians that it is operating in good faith and truly wants an end to the violence and freedom on both sides. An important first step in this direction is to implement a ceasefire, which is what the vast majority of the American people and pro-Palestinian activists support. Finally, I would like to make it clear that I apply these standards to all conflicts, not just this one. if I had been alive during your ancestors’ time, I would have advocated against their persecution, as I do now against the persecution of Palestinians, and as I will in the future whenever the rights of an oppressed minority are infringed upon.
….and because it happened to you I should just accept that it happened to me, me as in Palestinian?!?!! Our land, our homes we stolen and kind of atrocities were committed against my people, the Zionists who we took in as refugees fleeing prosecution in Europe turned around and stabbed us in the back. We will get our land back if not today then tomorrow…..free free Palestine
Bill Maher justifying genocide because this isn't the first time there has been genocide is ridiculous. We are in 2023 and the World can do more to stop it.
Bill Maher is the best in the business .He knows what to say ,to whom to say it and when to say it, One of the most respected people in the world, believe me. He is a refreshing voice to hear out there among the insanity that's coming from all directions. Oh and he doesn't play the partisan card , if you messed up on the left he'll let you have it, you mess up on the right, you'll hear it from him, with there's only the a straight line . Thank you Mr. Maher.
Yeah this guy didn't become a national celebrity and gathered 2M+ following on youtube without a highly talented writing team. (From the looks of it, probably jewish 😄 ).
What made the Palestinians miss all these opportunities is not the Palestinian public - or their leadership, but rather the Arab Monarchies , Arab dictators and the Mullahs of Iran. Because, these 3 different groups, know very well, if the Palestinian/Israel conflict is solved, they’ll not last even few years after that.
@@Abdulkga They have never been given a fair offer EVER. In 1993, the Palestinians agreed with the UN and international positions of land for peace - it was the Israelis and US who wanted all kinds of compromises. The West Bank would have been 250 ghettos surrounded by Jewish settlers. In 1948, a native people were invaded by violent Jewish terrorists who even killed British peacekeepers and UN peace envoys. The outside powers decided to give half of Palestine to the invaders who were in the minority. It would be like a bunch of Central Americans illegally invade Texas and CA, and we give the illegals Los Angeles and Houston, and tell the Americans to get the f*** out, and move to the desert to live in a refugee camp for 75 years. What people in the world would accept that?
So common sense is Bill saying ethnic cleansing has happened before so it’s okay for it to happen now. He knows Israel wants to keep full control of Palestine and Israel will not negotiate.
@@kukisterfunny you mention putler. Fears of a return of virulent state-sponsored antisemitism in Russia prompted one of Moscow’s chief rabbis, Pinchas Goldschmidt, to flee the country last year and relocate to Israel. The world knows where the Nazis are - they’re inside Russia.
I proudly support Israel. The Jews are the indigenous people of Israel. The Palestinians are the actual colonizers, but the love being in the false victim mentality. They brought the attack and didn't like the outcome. You get what you pay for.
Sitting in Israel and hearing this is a sight for sore eyes!!! Thank you for staying the obvious, in your inimical way. Time to face facts and even, imaginary as it may be, make peace??? Thank you💙🇮🇱
Many people understand, love and support Israel. Just all the hate-propaganda is affecting the other half too much. Stay safe, dear friend, we adore you and your culture.
How do you exactly expect peace if Israel even before the 7th october still occupies Palestinian territories and displace the people from their homes? You say peace, but it sounds like you suggest surrender.
"From the river to the sea" is only bad if they do it - It's literraly the moto of Likud founding charter ... Funny how you little zionist degenerates gaslight peace as you engage in ethnic cleansing of west bank...
You may have exaggeratied sense of what it is actually like. Plus extremely complex. If you are 100% on one side of this issue, you need to do more reading from other perspective. Bobody should feel like "Their Side" is completely righteous withinall of this. And why would you attack poster for thinking Pals are animals? Jumping the gun I'd say. @@KittyCat-lp3zy
There was also the Partition of 1947 when Pakistan was created out of a part of India (initially named West Pakistan as there was also an East Pakistan created (now Bangladesh)). Millions of Hindus and Sikhs had to leave their ancestral homeland and Muslims on the "wrong" side of the border also moved across to Pakistan. The transition was bloody: 15 Million were displaced and a Million died. It should be said that many Muslims stayed in India and today the Muslim populations of Pakistan and India are actually nearly the same; approximately 240M and 200M respectively.
@@overtonwindows I gave that example as it has similarities with Israel/Palestine and the British dividing land. I don't quite understand your rather odd comment but I assume it is meant as some sort of insult. So I'm really curious. Which part of my comment did you find offensive?
@@parjau4554I do think there are some major differences between Israel/Palestine and the partition that also need to be acknowledged. Mainly, the partition was a blunder made a retreating coloniser that it thought would help it navigate the geo politics of the world in the wests best interests. Israel/Palestine though is a case some might argue is an active colonisation, with the West Bank having settler colonies. People didn’t move across borders because their homes were being taken by an occupational force, they had moved because an arbitrary line, fuelled by communal violence had been cut across the land they already had inhabited. Both events have scarred those it had effected, and these scars shall take generations before they begin to fade.
There can never be a 2-state solution because Islam. "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."--Hamas Covenant
Bill Maher: "Borders change, get over it." Also Bill Maher: "There's an ancestral claim going back 3000 years, rooted in the Bible" ALSO Bill Maher: "I made the Documentary 'Religulous' because the Bible is not accurate-history."
perhaps I'm wrong, but I read somewhere that the desire to avenge the Nakhba is passed down from generation to generation among Palestinians. All that hate is harnessed by Hamas and Hamas uses that hate to generate more hate. A vicious cycle with no end.
It's also passed down in the leading American universities, mostly thanks to soviet-era KGB work on the subject They somehow engineered that it would be "liberal" to promote ethnic cleansing of Jews from the middle east, and yet it's not considered "liberal" to promote ethnic cleansing of any other race/religion from any other region/country...
Under the UN's partition plan individual property ownership didn't change, the country to which it was a part did. That is until the Arabs attacked Israel because they refused to accept Israel's existence. And Muslims are in no position to complain about stolen land given the fact Islam is based on imperialism.
@@mcleananderson4948 There's a lot of historical inaccuracies - such as that the West Bank alone was the "original UN partition deal" (it is only about a 1/3 of what was promised to the Palestinians in 1947 which itself is less than a third of what they had pre-Zionism), or that Jews were kicked out of Muslim countries post-1948 (only Syria, the vast majority of the Jewish migration was willingly to the new Jewish state to do "Aliyah" and take advantage of land incentives), or that Palestine attacked again and again and lost (the six-day war was started by Israel), or misrepresentations "Arafat was offered 95% of the West Bank" (the Palestinians were not offered the most important part - Jerusalem. And the West Bank at the very least should be wholly Palestine - annexing even more of it through a peace deal is ridiculous.)
@@joshitheyoshi2533 And now the Arabs have nothing, and did not offer any realistic counter offers, only "from the river to the sea" fantasies. The losers of wars do not dictate terms. At this point, the world is exhausted from Arabs refusing to live in peace, and no one cares anymore. They've had their dozens of chances to move forward in peace, and they continually chose war, and now they will have it.
You forgot the biggest mass movement in modern history, when people had to move from their ancestral lands due to a Partition _inventing a new nation_ from scratch, i.e., the *10 million Indians who became refugees in their own motherland, in 1947, when lndia was dismembered to create Pakistan!* The thing is *when Muslims **_get_** it's fine, when they **_have to give_** it ain't.* This is also true in the case of Kosovo. Israel is the only case when history has asked Islam to give, and look how badly they've taken it.
Yes, they also talk about The Nakba, of Arabs leaving during the 1948 war of aggression against Israel, but never mention the nakba, of one million Jews forced to leave Arab countries from 1948. This is probably less widely known, because those Jewish refugees moved on and progressed, instead of claiming perpetual refugee status.
...let alone the fact that half of those who were offered Israeli citizenship agreed and are now 21%, many openly hating Jews with impunity. And it makes me speechless how the Arabs call 'catastrophe', the word Jews use to describe the extermination of millions, their ancestors having to walk a few kilometres to settle in a new place. @@slabo8226
A crash course on history of PALESTINIAN STATE: 1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state 2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. 4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state. 5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. 6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state. 7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state. 8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. 10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state. 12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state. 13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state. 14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state. 15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. 17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. 20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE
Thanks for this info. You have gone back in factual history even farther than I do. Of course Palestinians will say it is all a lie. They have just learned how to manipulate the press better over the years. But their lies are still lies.
The best lesson for people whose knowledge of the matter is limited to a couple of slogans. Share this to your 15 years nieces (and to any adult thinking like them).
@@RBurns80 I don't know, should _you_ learn something from it? I said the video is the best lesson _for people limited to reasoning in slogans_ ... and newspeak keywords, so... You tell me. If you have studied a bit the subject you probably knew _already_ that every single refusal of peace offerings and every single attacks by Arabs (later known as Palestinians) against Israel have always been counterproductive for the hypothesis of a Palestine state and for the good life of the claimed territories. One obvious implied suggestion of the video is, at least change your main slogan from genocidal to peace-compatible. (If you love Palestinians more than you hate Israeli...) Of course you hardly learn anything new from an 8 minutes satire piece _if_ you're informed beforehand.
Isreal don't want the indigenous Palestinian to live a normal life with human rights... never wanted neither 2 states nor 1 democratic secular state... they only want to enticingly cleanse the remaining indigenous palestinians for some religious bullshit myth ... they never wanted to negotiate,,, only keeping Jabotinsky's Iron Wall policy
Reality is that there was no Israel before 1948. Israel has been ethnically cleansing Palestinians like they did the Canaanites. your propaganda doesn't work anymore. That's why the world is against that apartheid state.
The the thing is, islam forbids it, quran says "Kill them wherever you come upon them and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out"
Except that Hamas and Hezbollah and other terror groups in the region keep starting it up over and over and over again. Israel has always fought a defensive war.
Bravo, bravo, bravo!! Looking back, we probably shouldn’t have put sports above education. History & geography was taught by coaches & education stopped. They were study halls.
My American history class was taught by a coach and he was great. Taught us the main facts he wanted us to know and I’ve remembered them all and I’m 76.
We just shouldn't have allowed to communists to take over education. Joe McCarthy was right he warned everyone that the Communists were taking over. Taking over academia after taking over Hollywood taking over the government taking over the internet.. He warned everyone and nobody listened. If you had Americans teaching education instead of communists they would be more proficient in math science and reading and they would know basic history and they would learn how to do their taxes instead of learning critical race theory and had to switch their gender
Dead on Bill. But important correction: The U.N. 1947 Partition Plan that you mentioned at 5:35 didn't allot just the West Bank to the Arabs. All of today's Jordan (referred to as Trans-Jordan during the British Mandate period) plus the West Bank was to go to the Arabs. What was left to the Jews was an army general's nightmare but the Jewish population of the Mandate accepted it. What the Arabs would've gotten would've been an area about 4 times the size of today's Israel and about 15 times bigger than today's West Bank. Also what history neglects to say is that many of today's palestinians moved into today's Israel in the early 20th Century as economic conditions improved from the British being there after WW1 and also from the first wave of Jews entering the land at the end of the 19th Century. Lastly it's important to note that Jews have always lived in Israel from ancient times to the present day.
There has been an Arab population in Israel/Palestine at least since the 7th century AD (Jews have been there longer, but still, it's a substantial historical period). But the notion that Arabs living in Israel/Palestine form a separate nation is much more recent. Arguably, so is the notion of Syrian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Iraqi nations. All these countries were created by the British and the French when they took over a large part of the former Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I. IIRC, prior to that, the Arabs perceived Palestine as part of Syria, not as a separate ethnic/national entity. It was the Jews who perceived the Land of Israel as a distinct historical-geographic-national unit
@@ugolomb Quite right. In fact the capital of Ottoman Palestine was Damascus. It is an interesting point of history that in all the centuries of invasion and occupation only the Jewish people ever called Jerusalem our capital. (There were always Jews living in the (former) land of Israel, even when not in control and Jerusalem was and still is the holiest place and the place to turn towards in prayer.) Back to capitals: Romans had Caesarea, Mamlukes had Cairo, Muslims had Ramla, Crusaders had Acre ...
Even as a comedian, Bill Maher explained the situation better than you would get in most college classrooms. Hopefully, our misled young people are paying attention.
If you have the IQ of a teenager? Historically inaccurate apologies for genocide masquerading as comedy are only suitable for two audiences: idiots and genocide enthusiasts. Which one are you, I wonder?
This is the most eloquent statement about the reality of the existence of Israel I've heard that really helps me to clarify my thinking about the issue. Palestinians must accept Israel's right to exist and it would work much more towards a viable two-state solution instead we have this horrible conflict.
Israel does NOT want a two state solution and that is the whole basis of this mess. The Zionists believe that all of Palestine belongs to them because their little book tells them so.
Bro, the Palestinian ambassador to the uk just came out and said that Israel will never accept a two state solution. Most Palestinians don't want Israel to not exist, they want Israel to obey international fucking law and stop carpet bombing their homes
Eloquent, yes; but also one-sided as it completely ignores the Palestinian perspective. Mr. Maher and all advocates for Israel ignore the fact that this untenable situation came about when in 1917 the British Empire promised to establish a homeland for the Jews and ignored the views of the people who already lived there. But this was an all too typical "generous" gesture of the British Empire - namely to promise something which did not belong to them to someone else. (Promising in 1915 to give Dalmatia and South Tyrolia to Italy is another example.) If Britain wanted to be so generous and establish a Jewish Homeland they should have given the Jews some land which was British, a couple of their own home counties. And as for the UN Partition Plan, were the Palestinians consulted? Of course, not. As Bertrand Russell pointed out at that time, "No people anywhere in the world would accept being expelled en-masse from their own country; how can anyone require the people of Palestine to accept a punishment which no body else would tolerate?" There are now some 7 million Palestinians and 7 million Jews who live in the territory of the former Palestinian mandate. The two state solution is long dead, as the West Bank settlements make a Palestinian state non-viable. The only solution now is a one state solution in which both Palestinians and Jews share the territory. As Tony Judt warned in his 2003 essay in the New York Review of Books, if Israel continued with its settlements policies in the West Bank it would destroy any possibility of a two state solution. Israel then would have to choose between being a Jewish state or a democratic state. It could not be both. Under the Netanyahu it has clearly chosen to be the former by disenfranchising the vast majority of the 7 million Palestinians who live under Israeli control.
I live in Utah...and I teach United States history to eighth-grade students...and I remind them that Utah was Mexico...which was New Spain...which was taken from the Native Americans. Should we feel bad about ANY of that? No. I have only lived in Utah for fifteen years. I didn't conquer ANYONE and I didn't steal ANYTHING -- and my students didn't kill anyone or take any land either.
And the indian tribes living there during the time of the Spanish had taken the land from earlier tribes who in turn had taken the land from even earlier tribes, going all the way back to prehistoric cavemen crossing the ice bridge 10-20,000 years ago. Thank god the Indians were illiterate with no way of transmitting memories of ancient grievances.
Egypt was one of the countries that went to war with Israel 3 times. And now they live in peace thanks to the Camp David Accords. Egypt didn’t just suddenly become overrun with Zionists. The leadership in Egypt simply realized that Israel wasn’t going anywhere, and attacking Israel was in fact detrimental to Egypt. Jordan followed suit in the 90s. And UAE and Morocco followed suit in 2020.
going somewhere does not necessary to other countries. Besides that Israeli expansion went from Akka and now is going to Gazza, it already took Aljoulan from Syria and Kafar Shouba from Lebanon, and now is intending to take Sanai desert from Egypt as well.
@@user-vt1hf9cm7l Israel has no intention of ruling Gaza again (it ethnically cleansed all Jews from it in 2006) and Israel and Egypt have peace. Israel gave Egypt Sinai back years ago... I guess facts won't help your wild imagination but I thought I'd give it a try 🤷♂
@@user-vt1hf9cm7l If israel wanted Sainai, they had a right to annex it in 1970s. But they gave Sainai back to you and in return, you signed a peace treaty. Omg.. You guys shouldn't learn history in madrassa
Because of this deal they do not have the power to use their border crossing to bring aide to Gaza. Israel controls every border of Gaza completely. That is why Israel is responsible for the starvation of Gazans.
Bill forgot to mention that every year palestine proposes the two state 1967 borders solution but Israel rejects it every year. He didnt meantion that one did he? because bill hates muslims so he does israel propaganda, simple as that. If you knew anything about the matter, you wouldnt make your generic comment.
Sorry Bill, but with this war, the western myth of a two state solution is gone. Not going to happen. In fact, Israel refuses to discuss it further. Somebody tell Joe and his Secretary of State. You fantasize for a two state solution, but over in Paly Land, they dream of your death and a one state solution, and say it loudly, but you are deaf.
No what he's saying is Israel is here to stay and Palestinians best get used to it. Having said that, Palestinians foolishly expect Israel to just disappear with zero leverage. It's just a sad situation all round.
@kayodeisaac6274 The left is the only side that has common sense since people don’t like to be told what to do with their lives and you can’t massively lower taxes and massively increase spending on the military and police.
This is why an education in history is necessary.
History do you have any IDEA what is happening today WEF wake the f up
Wef? What is that?
When trump re elected. The evictions will be insane!!! Good.
@@JD-gv4uzit’s hard to decipher your code without commas.
@@JD-gv4uz can you rephrase that in the form of something that makes sense to anyone not deluded by conspiracy theories?
“There’s not an acre of land on the globe that’s in possession of its rightful owner.” -Mark Twain
No auch thing as „rightful“ owner
There are no "rightful owners". Never has been.
Cool 👍🏻 So that means Ukrainians are not the rightful owners of Ukraine's land. Putin should just take whatever land he wants by force
Ok, then what claim does Israel have to the West Bank? Or Gaza?
old maher's racist rants never hold up to scrutiny. might makes right leads to endless conflict.
This should be required watching for anyone wanting to talk about this conflict. We can have different opinions but those opinions can't be based on missing essential facts.
True. Though even Bill messed up some of this info.
For instance, he didn't mention that JORDAN was specifically set aside for Arab Muslims. THAT is their country. Not Israel. Not Palestine. And there was NOT genocide "on both sides" re: Israel and Arab Muslims-- the Jews/Israelis have NEVER practiced ethnic cleansing, whereas Islam DEMANDS ethnic cleansing and Muslims have obliged. And the Jews did NOT force all or most Muslims to leave Palestine when Israel was established. These Arabs were told to leave by surrounding ARAB LEADERSHIP so that the Arabs could then attack Israel and kick the Jews out. The Jews did NOT "kick them out."
@@cw4623 You don't get to rewrite history. The United Nations planned a partition for Israel and Palestine between 1947-48. Over 3/4 of a million Palestinians have been displaced In 1948 by the Israelis and thousands were massacred, so yes it is ethnic cleansing. Look up the definition. Look up the definition. You claim that the Arabs left by order of Arab leaders so that the soldiers could fight, which means they did the opposite of using human shields. Commendable! What else would a leader do when their people are being driven out by armies of savages? Would that leader ask them to stay and get killed? If Islam demands ethnic cleansing why has it spread across ethnicities from Indonesia to Guinea, with the statement of Prophet Muhammad saying no non-Arab is superior to an Arab or an Arab to a non-Arab except by status of character, yet Jews gatekeep their ethnoreligion by saying Jews can only be Jews if their mother was a Jew, and despise the goyim? And why have Islamic caliphates, from the Rashidun to the Ottoman, rescued Jews from the Christian Crusaders who killed them and drove them out?
I think you're giving the progressive too much credit. There's no amount of evidence they will accept that hurts their narrative. The fanatical idiots
@@cw4623
That is true. Israel wanted to live in peace with its neighbors. The 5 surrounding Arab Muslim countries did not want any Jewish state “not even the size of a napkin” 5 Arab countries joined together to attack the new State of Israel in 1948
Jordan ethnically
“From the Rio Grande to Portland Oregon Mexico will be free” As a person of Mexican descent I died at that
Me too
Free Palestine Texas
So you're not an Aztlan kinda guy.
@@StoneFredFlint Yaqui baby
The fact is nobody is going 'back' to anywhere; we're all in this together. Even the most racist Mexicans/Chicanos (I've met some who absolutely hate gringos) admit that "Reconquista" is simply not going to happen.
You mean to tell me history isn’t a purely binary equation of light-skinned oppressors and dark-skinned oppressed?? My Gen Z sense of righteous indignation is triggered!!
At least Maher can talk about it without getting his videos deleted. Thank goodness for that.
It's not the situation it's how you react to it. "Triggered" Your choice for victimhood . Get help.
When it happens over 1000 years is one thing but when white people bulldoze Arab land to make way for those who once long ago lived there is absolutely wrong and bill is a hypocrite
Lol right? My generation is really so brainwashed
All civilizations have done it, but the modern Leftist view is that minorities are children who don't know any better. Their idea is that white people are the adults in the room who should have known better. That's why it's wrong for Washington to have owned slaves (he should have known), but not wrong for Mohammed (he couldn't have been expected to). Patronizing Racism is the flavor of the day. Only real idiots still practice the old hateful kind.
Thank you, Bill. No one has said it better even now 7 months later.
I enjoyed how he, most subtlety, chided conservatives on their pathological distaste of change.
And yet he still votes Democrat 🤦🏽♂️
From the river to the sea, 🇵🇸 will be free
@@user-is1yo3nj8p Advisable to view the video prior to making courtjesterish one liner magaisms.
… Adding my country and Texas is…
A very frightening thought. 🤣
Who would of ever thought bill being the voice of reason and common sense
you're joking, right? maher is a terrorist. he says it's okay for zionists to comit genocide because other regimes over the centries have done done the same crime.
Not me, but happy to see it
Actually a lot of people
Dude is a super lib, but considered center right now because the dems are so far left now.
Is he?
I love Bill’s matter-of-fact, no-nonsense way of presenting just the simple FACTS.
I’m an Arab and I agree 100% .I’m a Christian and we have lived with the same cruelty the Palestinians are having now .i know what it feels like to be a minority in your own country .So I left and Live in a Free society .Thank you Australia
@@coolnout3765aka, a Christian Arab
@@coolnout3765 why uis he self centred?
@@coolnout3765
He's Arab, but not Muslim. They all the enemies of Islam.
@@coolnout3765 I hope you are not a native English speaker, otherwise you would have to be an ignorant and illiterate for that waste of a comment.
@@Ahmad_GharbawyIslam vilifies everyone who isn’t Muslim
As a long time viewer of the show, I must say this is one of the best New Rules I have seen in years. When discussing geopolitics, people often don’t look into the long, complicated history of the places in question, leaving out vital context to the modern situation. More importantly, those people will also forget that there are many past examples of similar situations in history that can help us get a nuanced perspective on the current conflict.
To the people reading this comment, please share this Bill Maher video so more people can better understand the Israel-Hamas War.
He didn’t explain why a Palestinian has to wait at a checkpoint for hours.
@@Coderdawgwell don’t have radicals blowing up and maybe they wouldn’t have to wait
@@Coderdawg I think it’s cuz they tend to blow things up.
@@Coderdawg Yea, cause he it ain't relevant to what he is speaking? You can list a laundry list of things that Palestinian are going through right now after their dumass leaders decided to attack the sixth ranked nuclear power. I swear, y'all think war is some game played with rules or something. Newsflash it ain't. Especially when you prompt one with a low blow.
Small problem with Bills “land grab, get over it”. In his Mexico example, millions of “Mexicans” were integrated as labor as Americans. That was a win/win.
Land has people in it. What is the Bill/Israel solution to the people on this land? That was conveniently omitted. (I’ll wait).
Edit: And by the way…wasn’t Hitler just a land grabber? Should we have said: “get over it France”.
Edit2: Before you jump to conclusions, I am an atheist, and think religious conflict / death are people dying for fairy tales. And I keep seeing atheists like Bill Maher, and Sam Harris offer NO REAL SOLUTIONS, other than allow them to “bias hedge” out of saying what will eventually happen: killing of Palestinians for a land grab. It might be slow, but that is what is going on. Just admit. I’m tired of this avoidance talk.
The arabs could have stayed, it was in the Israeli independence constitution or something.
Many stayed and became citizen with equal rights, and those who fled were under other arabs countries who kept them as refugees.
So true! Graduates of TikTok university will call it a lie!)))
"History is NOT kind to those who repeatedly attack their neighbors, and lose,"
The occupied territories are now part of Israel. Israel needs to end the apartheid and give their Palestinian population the vote so they have Palestinians to negotiate with.
eventually they will win, the Muslims do not think in terms of winning and losing, they think about doing the right thing, if they win they win and get a reward from God, and if they lose, they still get a reward from God for trying. But they will never give up.
Yeh, that's called a death cult.
@@johnsolodovesky582But that is not what Islam teaches!
Islam is a religion that emphasizes the importance of perseverance but it also instructs one to accept reality:
> Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, said: “If something befalls you, do not say: ‘If I had only done such and such.’ Instead say: ‘It is as God decreed and He does what He pleases’”.
Palestinians are Muslim and Christian, though, so it's different. I think it's more like black people in South Africa. They live in an apartheid state now, but one day they will free to travel from the Sea to the Jordan River the same way Jews can now. It's a question of equality. @@johnsolodovesky582
Maher made a great point about Arab/Muslim colonization, it was brutally violent but you always hear about Europeans being colonizers on Tik Tok lol
Who would've thought Buddhist nationalists would expel over 1 million Rohingya Muslim initiated by Aung San Suu Kyi, a Nobel Peace laureate now finding herself imprisoned while the purge continues.
Evil in the past does not justify it in the present.
So because muslims invaded 1000 years ago, it's OK for Israelis to murder Palestinians?
Cuz we are in the USA and European colonizers are what started racism and perpetuates it
Same thing for the Asians. The mongols killed the most people worldwide (proportionally speaking) when they colonized most of the world and built one the largest empires in history.
❤ From UK here. Bill is absolutely spot on.
Give back Cornwall to the Corns! From the Bristol Channel to the sea, Cornwall yeah must be free!
Don't they're nearly as bad as the Texans. Think Houston but with Scrumpy. 😅
Reading some of the comments below, I do believe a detailed history of the world, going back to ancient times, which states all the facts, needs to be taught in schools. Clearly, there are a lot of people who also don't know how to use a library to look up old newspaper articles, as well. It never fails to amaze me how so many people would rather believe gossip than find out the facts of the matter! Thank you, Bill, for at least trying to educate them.
If you think these are facts, you are clearly deluded. This is a hugely convenient way of glossing over history and is symptomatic of the American education system. Do you know how Ireland 'just lost its tip'? Through continued organised resistance against its colonisers. That's how.
Could you imagine saying this when tens of thousands of people - men, women and children are dying and millions of people are being displaced as we speak? Regardless of your views at least show some damn respect.
Shame on you Bill Maher.
All their information is from tiktok.
@@Preivous where do you get your info from, Bill Maher?
@@fireatwill8989 Never heard of him until I watched this video, but if it concerns you I read books and study the internet like any civilized person.
I guess I just find his argument pretty flawed and so I find it frustrating to hear people validate it in the comments. Sure, it sounds good with a laugh track and a few visuals but it's telling that he failed to mention countries like Rhodesia, Uganda or Somaliland that were former British colonies (just as so called Israel was under British mandated Palestine) before they were decolonised. I agree, people in these comments don't have a clue and need to read more. You know how Americans love to talk about why the west needs to back Israel because they're the underdog outlier in the Middle East? People used to talk about Rhodesia in a similar way until they went rogue. Israel is going down the same path to rogue statehood in my opinion.
Anyway, I used to like Bill. His centre left politics always had a pragmatic approach that I appreciated. It's just too bad he's become a zionazi mouthpiece.
The Hagia Sophia was a Christian basilica, but is now a mosque
It’s originally a flourishing Orthodox cathedral in 6th century AD, now a museum in Istanbul, Turkey
@@emmdeecastro553 It was a museum until recently, Erdogan sadly turned it into a mosque I believe.
The Muslims literally built a mosque on top of a Jerusalem temple
Muslims aren't angry about conquest or stealing land They're just angry when other people do it to them
Built on top of a pagan temple
@@emmdeecastro553turned into mosque by jihadi erdogan so muslims should accept him as new caliph
Kashmir valley was 100% Hindu just about 900 years ago today it is 100% Moslem and the last remnants of Hindus were driven out by Muslims in 1989 when the familiar phrase "flee convert or die" was blaring from the loudspeakers atop mosque minarets.
You are delirious if you think Israelis with their power and might are fleeing the way the Hindus did Kashmir. You are comparing apples to raisins.
Its all about this evil religion 😢
Muslims don't want peace They just want to win.. They aren't angry at conquest They're angry at other people conquering them.. But Muslims were all too happy to conquer everyone else
Islam is not a legitimate religion it's a death cult. Centered around violently conquering the whole world.. And the world cannot move forward and coexist with Islam. Arabs maybe. But Islam? No
@@MrJohn424242 I don't think that was the point. I think the poster was pointing out the mindset. The "we're all basically alike" philosophy has some fatal flaws.
And we all know what the "liberals" media said on the only true genocide that happened in India ... nothing !
I could watch this over and over. Beautiful piece. Thanks Bill
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@@AbleMable
Facts don't care about your feelings 💯
One of the best I’ve heard out of Mr Maher
"The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."
Abba Eban
Sad but true...
If Arafat had signed any kind of agreement with Israel, he wouldn't have made it back to his hotel room. Reference Sadat getting whacked if you are unsure of this.
@@markw999Yitzhak Rabin's assassination didn't help the Israeli side at the negotiation table either.
@@mrwevans Ya, the extremists get a veto in Israel, which is solidly half the problem. And both sides have their own version of "from the river to the sea" mentality. This will go on until the Arab Muslims get the demographic advantage - roughly end of century.
@@markw999Sadat has a legacy of 40+ years of peace with Israel. He would have died again if he knew it meant lasting peace. Sadat is a real leader. Not the Hamas cowards siphoning billions in aid from their Qatar penthouses.
"War's end with negotiation, and what the media glosses over is that Its hard to negotiate when the other side's bargaining position is that you all die and disappear"
I agree with Bill on this comment!!!
Fact. I think Sun Tzu was the one who said essentially that a cornered cat will fight viciously. But if you give them an escape, they’ll use it.
Same in negotiations. Give your opponent an option that will actually be good for them and they may take it.
Why should the palestenians negotiate their land? There was no israel before 1948.
Before Theodor Herzl jews were less than 10% of the population. Imagine Mexicans invading and we negotiate 80% of the land to them. It's silly.
He’s referring to Netanyahu, right?
Someone tell Bill that Israel isn't interested and probably never was, in a two state solution. Seems like all he reads are western headlines without going into substance.
@@ChrisAlbertH47Israel agreed to it several times in the past but the other side declined every time.
During these times though I don't think it's an option anymore.
I love it when Bill uses his powers for good.
30,000 and counting = not so good
@@forblogssakedotorg2448 Millions of people died in WW2. It doesn't mean that the allies should have never fight against Nazi Germany.
True
@@ofrikalif4938 not even close to the same thing and I think you know that. Invoking the Holocaust, one of, if not the worst genocide and stains on humanity, just shows that you can't see nuance - and that 30,000 lives don't matter to you. I'm pro Israel, I'm pro jewish, I'm Pro Palestine, I'm pro any type of religious expression that doesn't harm others. But most importantly I'm pro human being especially defenseless young children. And you glossing over the at least 13,000 CHILDREN that have been murdered in Gaza is deplorable.
And furthermore, this may be a well done piece and I hope it's educational for many. but hearing it from Bill Maher who has been spewing islamophobic rhetoric for YEARS is tough to swallow.
@@forblogssakedotorg2448Hamas admitted those numbers are not true it’s more around 23k and almost half are directly connected to Hamas and the others aren’t innocent and that’s a fact
ppl that say that Bethlehem belongs to palestine should know that "Bethlehem" is a Hebrew name - "בֵּית לֶחֶם" meaning "house of bread".
I assume the Palestinians have a name for it.
@@PrimoStracciatella nope, u can google it. it is an ancient city, even named in the talmud and has not been renamed to offend jews or christian
@@PrimoStracciatella Bethlehem is mentioned 50 times in the Bible and not once in the Quran.
Palestine was the name given to Israel by the Romans in the 3rd century. It was a snub to the Jewish people.
I didn't know this. Thank you for telling this detail.
Now it's known as the House of Pita
Millions of Germans after WW2 were not only violently expelled from Czechoslovacia but from actual German territory like East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia. Those German territories added up for one quarter of the former German territory and were annexed by Poland and Russia. What Bill considers parts of Poland or Russia was actual German territory until WW2. Most of those people worked hard building up a new life in the remaining parts of Germany.
That is something people don't understand. If you lose wars you lose territory. That was the norm then and should be now. 5:45
Germany can consider itself lucky that the country still exists today the way it does. Just as Palestine can be lucky to exist after losing the 1967 war.
That's what you get when you loose a war. After what Germany did to Europe they're lucky they're still even a country. They should have been occupied themselves. Go to Aushwitz, see what they did to people and tell me you still feel sorry for those 'expelled' Germans.
Btw if you look further into history, East Prussia was given to the Teutonic Order by the Polish king at the time and after it turned out they were ungrateful assholes they were made into a Polish Vassal.
@@Adam-uu9twDisagree about the part that Germany can be lucky to still exist. There was too many German people to hold them back from having a country. Trying so would have caused a constant civil war like conflict. Look, we can’t even hold back Taliban from ruling Afghanistan. 🤷♂️ Furthermore back then the importance of Germany for world economics was way bigger than today. Would have badly impacted global welfare
You could argue that Germans never elected Hitler into power. He was made chancellor after what was considered a defeat for the NAZI party and even in the last elections, already under Hitlers rule and controlled by SA thugs they did not reach an absolute majority, I think it was like 43% or sth like that.
@@Derrek84 people like you is the reason there was both world wars in the first place 🙄
No Muslim was forced to leave when Israel was founded. In the constitution of Israel it states that they hope the Muslims will stay and build the nation of Israel alongside the Jews. All the calls for Muslims to leave Israel came from Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, etc.
Shalom
Actually, about 700,000 Muslim were expelled from Israel for good reason after the 1948 war of independence but 200, 000 were allowed to stay and most of the ones expelled were later allowed to return.
But the farmers’ lands were being taken.
Not true.
@@23andAs punishment for their support of the Arab armies.
Bravo Mr Maher! Thank you
That's why I like your shows Bill.. you dig up the truth and shove it right up the throats of the ignorants and deniers.
I as a Muslim myself want to know the truth. They can point their fingers at others but it's the corrupt leaders of the Arab world who have caused the sufferings upon their people.
No one of them has the courage to admit it.
Who make up his audience.
@zeemanzeeman5577
Why isn’t he telling this message to the Arab world? Why is he telling Western people that they rule and therefore should take over the world?
@@giantsr1eva
Because the Arab world either doesn't listen or tries to kill you.
How conveniently he didn't say anything about native Americans
Arabs have their own evil history of severe sexism & racism & slavery. Like real bad. REAL bad. They still poison &
kill girls for going to school (Iran who backs Hamas who nuts prefer over Israel) They’re using black people to this day by making them stop focusing on real issues black Americans are facing to help advocate for a region that also enslaved them. It’s a scam
Could you please put Arabic translations? Arabs and Muslims also need a big dose of reality. I an Arab and an exmuslim, and this video would benefit from watching this. ❤❤❤
Finally a muslim with conscience
What exactly?
@@janusjones6519he just said he’s not Muslim
That’s a lot to ask. Arabic is a very hard language to translate.
Great idea
“ From the rio grande to Portland Oregon, Mexico will be free!!!!!!”
True words what a joke 🤣
Not so much a joke. Listen to Mexican entertainers, and when they talk about "take it back" and "we are the majority minority," the audiences don't erupt in laughter but in boisterous cheers. I've heard it. Learn Spanish, it will serve you well.
Mexico is as much a threat to America as Canada
@@gymnosva I'm Mexican, believe me, no one is going to send terrorists to the States or starting a war to "recover" the land.
Yes, there are some idiots with resentment over there, but no one is planning an "intifada".
I'm jewish and Israeli and first of all I would like to thank you and your team for speaking up, so thank you all.
1:34 Note: After the war of 1947, any Arab who chose to stay in Israel land got a citizenship, aka equal rights. Those who didn't want to stay, moved to the neighboring countries (who started the war on the Jews as a part of the very old trend of ethnic cleansing all Jews), and most got citizenship (which means they are not refugees! but are still claimed to be refugees by some organizations to this day, which is unheard of). Those who didn't chose either, had to live in the land under military, until this was also removed from Gaza Strip and (the terror organization) Hamas was democratically elected.
Three facts in addition to that for more context for those who care to learn:
1. 'Palestine': derives from ancient Greek 'Philistia'. Philistines are the biblical Enemies of the Israelites, which tried to do what? ethnically cleanse the Jews (you can read all about 'the timeline of the name Palestine' in wikipedia).
2. 'Apartheid' claims: Israel is the only democratic state in the entire Middle East - where all of us, jews muslims christians druze can live as equals (yoseph haddad
I appreciate you trying to present the facts, but history has shown that facts do not matter to ignorant people who love believing what they already believe. You're trying to convince people who think masturbating is the same as having real sex that they are really not having sex.
@@dagduesund5175 Thank you for appreciating the effort. Let me ask you, how do you think these subjects should be discussed?
Quote: "but history has shown that facts do not matter to ignorant people who love believing what they already believe. you're trying to convince people who think masturbating is the same as having real sex that they are really not having sex."
In my perspective, this belittles and sexually shames "these people". Not only is it disrespectful but it is also dehumanizing, as you and I both don't even know who "these people" are personally.
I truly believe we need to take responsibility for the way we communicate, in all forms. I love the quote of this judge who said "חופש הביטוי הוא לא חופש הביזוי״, which might not rhyme in translation to English but still is true: Freedom of Speech is not Freedom of Disdain (or Contemn).
Hope this message will convey my well-intentions. I know how frustrating this whole situation is, I know hopelessness and I know loss. I actually am a Jewish person from Israel, so please believe me when I say: *I know...* And I know this as well: we gotta keep it together, we have to stay human especially in times we face inhumanity.
Be safe and well \o/
@@tigress1girl Do not know how to approach those people who refuse to believe the truth. The modern Israel has been a country for what, about 75 years or so, there has never been an independent "Palestine", Gaza has been on its own for the last 15-20 years or whatever and still,
we are where we are. A quote attributed to C.K. Chesterton seems to describe this situation "When people stop believing in God they do not believe in nothing, they will believe anything. Getting people to stop believing in false gods that make them feel good about themselves is one high mountain to climb.
@@dagduesund5175 Humanity will only be able to access Truth by accepting we can only be aware of the “Relative Truth”. We thought the world was flat, for example, until discovered otherwise.
I find it fascinating you chose a quote about believing in god, because respectfully I believe that as much as the belief in a god can be for some (and not all) part of the solution, it can also be harmful and part of the problem we face today. Specifically, in some religious circles and schoolings, there's a lack of dialogue about scripts that are being held as sacred. Therefore, as history has shown time and time again, there are many people who committed crimes against humanity while claiming that their doings are "God's will". I think that in this conversation, as it's important to recognize some specific scripts can heal, it's also important to shine a light on the dark places, where specific scripts can actually do harm.
The Jewish people being called “the People of the Book” also speak about keeping the dialogue alive, which we do also with continuous writings and interpretations. I’d like to add one very known phrase (and principle) in the Jewish culture which is: “דֶּרֶךְ אֶרֶץ קָדְמָה לַתּוֹרָה”. The first two words ‘דֶּרֶךְ אֶרֶץ’ (‘Derech Eretz’) literal translation ‘The way of the Land’, and the meaning of the full phrase translates to “Proper universal ethical behavior precedes the Torah.”
No matter which religion, it’s a matter of the sake of humanity itself to be able to criticize specific harmful scripts, even if people hold them sacred, and with that comes healing a lot of the hate and violence we can find. If we look at the antisemitism that arrives from some Islamic people and groups, it’s important to note how it in fact has roots in the Quran. One example: "Thou wilt surely find the most hostile of men to the believers are the Jews and the idolaters." (5:85) = Jews are hostile to Muslims. Another example: "And He brought down those of the People of the Book who supported them from their fortresses and cast terror in their hearts; some you slew, some you made captive. And He bequeathed upon you their lands, their habitations, and their possessions, and a land you never trod. God is powerful over everything." (33:26) = An indication of the battles against the Jews, and a divine authorization to kill them.
There is a concept in Judaism of ‘Tikkun Olam’ (תִּיקּוּן עוֹלָם = 'repairing of the world'), which refers to various forms of action intended to repair, heal and improve the world; to the pursuit of universal justice which based on the idea that "Jews bear responsibility not only for their own moral, spiritual, and material welfare, but also for the welfare of society at large.”
Humanity has a total need - spiritual, emotional, psychological, physical, logical need - of connection to something bigger than ourselves (be it a Justice, God, Collective etc), finding meaning and belonging. This journey can be beautifully sacred as much as hopelessly devastating. I believe truth can be accessible with empathetic, engaging and knowledgeable communication; through encouragement of curiosity, of questions in the dialogue itself. And I choose to have faith in humanity. I maintain faith in humanity, including my own self. It doesn’t mean I don’t have boundaries, priorities, etc. And it doesn’t mean it comes easy to me, somedays it feels impossible. Yet without it, personally and with all seriousness, I have no reason to live. Rephrasing that with hope and love, it is my cherished reason to live, and pursue life that is worthy of living.
Thank you for talking about Muslim colonization. As a person born and raised in the Muslim community, the atrocities of Islamic conquest is grossly romanticized.
The later muslims i do not speak for. Im sure they were just like any other conquerer.
But the initial muslims didnt conquer to kick people out. They let people live their lives as they pleased and didnt force anything on anyone.
@@wahmad8211lol Muslims committed the worst genocide in the whole human history of non-muslim people from their beginning in 7th century. And it still goes on. They never ever let someone else “just live” with them. If they didn’t do it immediately, they just multiplied until they became strong enough to cleanse non-muslims.
@@wahmad8211 right because the jizyah was just something paid for fun by non Muslims
You have to be the only Muslim named Sebastian In the world
@@wahmad8211 The problem with conquest isn't kicking people out per se. The problem is in the process of attacking/killing a people for not being governed under the shariah, not stopping your attack until you rule them under the shariah, then taking prisoners of war as slaves and sex slaves. This is something that existed since the first wars fought in the name of Islam.
In Islam, there are three ways of getting new slaves:
1. Prisoner of war that did not convert to Islam.
2. Slave market
3. When two slaves that you own have a child
According to the Quran, when a prisoner of war is bought as a slave and they are female, they become a sex slave as well: "those who guard their chastity [5] except with their wives or those ˹bondwomen˺ in their possession, for then they are free from blame [6]" (Quran 23:5-6)
Islam permits slavery today, but the UN forced many Muslim countries to abolish slavery in the 20th century after the fall of the Ottoman Empire.
"Today the ottoman is something you put under your feet."
I just imagine Erdogan hearing that.
the WORD "ottoman" has many meanings -- PERIOD.
Even the Turks are not acting like they should have their empire back, or the Austro-Hungarians, or the Brits, the Spanish, or the French. The Russians are struggling to hold onto their empire. The Chinese and the Americans and the muslims have huge empires and are holding onto them.
@@geoffreyharris5931 , Americans have an empire?
OK, whatever.
@@Kurtlane -- Harris uses the word "empire" but he MEANS "allies"
that is just plain stupid
as a korean i was always taught, the world is not fair. live with it. try to fix it bit by bit though. you got to learn to live in an unfair world first, then deal with the unfairness
That's why S Korea is advancing at warpspeed... & with my utmost admiration!!
Bro the Palestinians are fighting to survive, they are literally getting killed, little kids are getting blown up. You telling them to learn to live in an "unfair world" is pretty stupid.
Bro, the Palestinians had multiple chances for peace with very generous concessions and their leadership said no. Life is about compromise. If you are not willing to compromise then deal with the consequences. @@shafqatmahmud4035
so why did thousands of koreans fought and died against Japanese oppression?? Why didn't they just give up and "learn to live" with the "unfair" world. Why are you fighting against North Koreans then? Why don't you just give up and let the supreme leader rule over you.? Don't be a hypocrite.
@@shafqatmahmud4035Nah, they were asking for it when they backed Hamas
Absolutely essential information, Bill. Thanks!
Realistically, this problem persists because the Arab countries surrounding Israel want it to persist. The reasons may be more complex than: "it's always good to have a bogeyman to distract from our oppression of our population," but, like many other countries in the past, they could have been more accepting of their "brethren" displaced from Israel & helped them to start new lives.
That wasn't part of the plan, the Arab countries forced the Palestinians to live in refugee camps, they denied them the opportunity to start new lives & apparently all for the purpose of keeping Jews & Israel as "the bogeyman."
This is correct. If you read the memoirs of the then Syrian president at the time, he actually admits this, saying they (the various Arab governments) said they would be going back in a few years and they never did... remaining second class citizens in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria...
There's so much you're protected from knowing in the US. Netanyahu as recently as 2019 said it was Israel's strategy to bolster Hamas against the PLO to use the chaos to take Palestinian land. Israel's government has a radical religious fanatical ambition of taking all of the West Bank and Gaza, by ethnic cleansing. I have no sympathy for the surrounding Arab countries, but why is it their fault that the survivors of a Holocaust use rhetoric akin to what Hitler used to take another land that isn't theirs?
While all that is true, let's go back to the source, and that source is Islamic Jew hatred, straight out of their book.
It also doesn't help that PA leaders are getting filthy rich by continuing the conflict. Trump nipped it in the bud by cutting their funding, but the current cabal fake president undid it all.
After all, it and the Muslim Brotherhood have a common goal.
Exactly. Unfortunately there were 10s maybe 100s millions people displaced in the conflicts. Could someone name another precedent of permanent refugees camps? It's more about hate to the Jewish state than love to Palestinian brothers.
Their government is also Persian? I know they're Muslims but I'm not sure if they consider themselves as non Arabs.@@user-ex5bp4yj3x
Thank you, Bill, for being one of the few liberals willing to speak truth about the conflict between Israel and Hamas.
Pure lies. Bill sold out on 9/11 2001 when he noted it was an inside job, than switched into Supporting the most violent people in the world. Israel-USA. Bill is a bought and paid for liar for the demonic forcing endless war on humanity. Israel controls USA Government and Bill Bahr. Hamas in not and was not in Gaza. Israel faked this arrack on Israel and even killed their own soldier to make them look like Victims. Today Those Vicims family's know Israel killed their family member.
What’s sad is how many people posted comments here who are obviously very antagonistic toward Maher and the Jews. Equity these days is not extended to Whites and Jews. It’s a sick time that we’re all living in right now. 😢
@@MathematicalCowboy Equity you say? What would be the reaction to a war where 1200 Palestinians died compared to 18-20,000 Jews? What would be the reaction to Jews being pushed off of land in Palestine/Israel that they had farmed and lived on for generations and forced to live in refugee camps for decades? I think the H word would be tossed around quite a bit more, not to mention many more heavy American munitions!
@@danknibloe3114 It's not a numbers game. The Palestinians started a war, and they haven't surrendered yet, the number could have been 100 Palestinians if they surrendered on day 1. Israel didn't force the Palestinians to live in refugee camps. The Arabs did. If they didn't start a war in 1948 likely most of them would still be on their land and Israeli citizens. You can't have it both ways.
@@danknibloe3114Surrounding Arab countries get no blame? Accept their Muslim brother and sisters, open up those border and stop funding this war, then the death count would have been much lower. Everything cannot be on Israel. You need nuance perspective, otherwise you lack peace.
Just like a broken clock being right twice a day, Bill Maher still gets it right once in a while.
This needs to be shared on every platform, mainstream news channel, college campus in the world.
Nice hate-filled pro-Israeli propaganda.
"There are no Solutions, only Trade-offs" - Thomas Sowell
It is so refreshing to hear an opinion based on the realities of life and humans, and not one based on a bias
Really ? Haha do you think the same way about Ukraine ? Do you think they should sign a peace deal and give up lost land ?
There's a lot of historical inaccuracies - such as that the West Bank alone was the "original UN partition deal" (it is only about a 1/3 of what was promised to the Palestinians in 1947 which itself is less than a third of what they had pre-Zionism), or that Jews were kicked out of Muslim countries post-1948 (only Syria, the vast majority of the Jewish migration was willingly to the new Jewish state to do "Aliyah" and take advantage of land incentives), or that Palestine attacked again and again and lost (the six-day war was started by Israel), or misrepresentations "Arafat was offered 95% of the West Bank" (the Palestinians were not offered the most important part - Jerusalem. And the West Bank at the very least should be wholly Palestine - annexing even more of it through a peace deal is ridiculous.)
@@joshitheyoshi2533Everyhthing he said is nosense
So u think Ukraine should annexed by Russia
@@joshitheyoshi2533 Completely inaccurate take. Arafat was unwilling to negotiate at all and demanded complete sovereignty over all of Jerusalem. It’s not brain science; Arabs have been calling for the destruction of Israel for decades. Now they’ll get nothing. How’s that working for you?
“The Palestinians demanded complete sovereignty over East Jerusalem and its holy sites, in particular, the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, which are located on the Temple Mount (Haram al-Sharif), a site holy in both Islam and Judaism, and the dismantling of all Israeli neighborhoods built over the Green Line. The Palestinian position, according to Mahmoud Abbas, at that time Arafat's chief negotiator, was that: "All of East Jerusalem should be returned to Palestinian sovereignty. The Jewish Quarter and Western Wall should be placed under Israeli authority, not Israeli sovereignty.” -Wikipedia
Absolutely brilliant!
Absolutely right 💯
I dont even like Bill Maher. But this was great. Thank you Bill, you are growing on me.
What if the Palestinians who said this land was promised to us by God, he would go crazy, correct? We know why he is saying that.
@@user-cv7en6ef6d but the land wasn't promised to them by God, or their "allah". Nearly 3,000 years ago the Bible actually recorded God's promise of the land to Israel though, that's roughly 2 millennia before Islam was even a thing!
@@trjohnson57 just so know more than 7 billion people don't believe in the Torah and don't think that Jews have a case. Even if you take this case to any supreme court, it won't pass.
@@trjohnson57God also promised Russia for the land Ukraine (Kyiv Russ) and they are doing exactly that but why the west is not supporting Russia?
@@usamabhatti903 when did God promise Ukraine to Russia? I must have missed that passage in scripture.
Bravo! I'm quite conservative, but man you nailed it. God bless you. ❤
Conservatives aren't even actually conservative anymore
Nailed it.
If you refuse to learn from history you are doomed to repeat it.
Ok so why is it not justified for Russia and china ?
TAIWAN is part of China legally .
Why is China a concern ?
China survived holocaust in WW2 as well so it's double justified
Settler colonies where the Settlers do not become the overwhelming majority of the population inevitably revert to Indigenous Political Contral. Learn about Rhodesia because history is about to repeat itself.
Exactly right. Don't justify what's happening in the present by bringing up the past "This is what happened back then so what's the difference?" People are catching on. That's the difference. You learn from your mistakes and change. You don't repeat them.
liberal/zionists will say never again, that they would’ve fought the nazis had they been there at the time. yet today they turn a blind eye to a genocide being perpetrated by a fascist ethno-state.
Are you sure? Israel justifies its Holocaust by using a previous Holocaust? Talk about not letting go.
Bravo to Bill Maher. This entire video should be shown on CNN but we know it won’t be.
CNN literally produces the show
@@dirtbag3736 It's an HBO show, HBO is owned by discovery (who also owns CNN), but that doesn't mean it's produced by CNN.
@@danielmiller9012That still doesn't explain why this can't be shown on CNN. It's just Bill editorializing and giving his opinions on topic he's not familiar with.
"Things change, countries change, deal with it."
It almost sounds like Bill is saying "might is right". So in that case don´t cry when Europe is run by middle eastern and african people in the next century. Just deal with it. Accept it and move on. Right?
@1001LeoMessi The original Greeks were really what we would call Middle Eastern. The prosperous ones lived in Asia Minor followed by the Roman's. The Muslims conquered the Balkans. The Saxons and French conquered England. Life goes on. Just what is the Palestinian resistance actually accomplishing today. Israel has a right to exist and is not going away.
Actually Bill. it wasn't unjust that some Arab family had to move in 1948. You see, lots of Arab families didn't have to move at all - they are still living in the same places inside Israel that they lived in - in 1948. Those were the ones who didn't grab weapons and attack their Jewish neighbors. The ones who DID attack in 1948, but lost the war had to move.
What a lie. So zionists would have allowed a majority of Arab muslims within Israel borders? They didnt tell Palestinians to leave their homes so that they can create a Jewish majority state?
You want to convince somebody that somehow the 750.000 Palestinians all picked up weapons before getting displaced? How come that less than 10.000 Jews died in 1948 war?
Yes, without the right to vote or citizenship.
@@susannacollinson9821 I couldn't help but roll my eyes at the ignorance.
You do know that there are Arab members of the Knesset, the ruling body of Israel, ever since it's first elections, right? And just to be clear, by Arab I mean that they spoke arabic and are muslim, so no, they are not Jews.
@@susannacollinson9821 You are surprised that non-citizens who live outside the borders of a nation can't vote ? Only the United States is dumb enough to allow non-citizens to vote.
This monolog is sooo true.. It reflects exactly what I think.. and I am a Jew from Tunisia so I know what I am talking about. I wish more muslims and Palestinians would watch this!!
b*s* we don't accept something because it usually happened across history do yourself a favor and go ask your father or
How's not accepting Israel's very existence working out for them? “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ” Albert Einstein
There is no evidence that Einstein ever said this.
@@Temulon Who cares, as long as the idiot who read it in a meme feels smart
That quote has been attributed to everyone under the sun; Einstein, Nietzsche, Franklin, etc...
@@jeffersonadams8711 I didn't know that. I'll look into it.
Ah yes, the smug liberals response to apartheid: “you’re losing just get over it”
You can't have peace unless you accept civil coexistence. It doesn't mean we forget, but it does me we forgive, for the sake of our neighbors, our children, our future.
@digitalmop It 's always the people who've never had to take an L that say forgive without contrition and recompense. Whites and asians usually groups that of they've experiences any losses were mitigated by the fact that they paid it forward to someone else.
A little drunken advice if I may,... stop making everthing about skin color... this belieft causes believer to take the all the worst of it. Everything is not about Race!!! I promise. We are all indivuals dammit! @@LouisAWheatJr
Right now Israel zealot settlers are violently expanding ilegal settlements in the West Bank with IDF backing and we wonder why HAMAS is getting more popular.
There is the story of a bloke who stood next to a wall, bashing his head against the wall. Someone came by and asked him, why. His response was, that it was so nice when he stops. The Palestinians have not yet realised that last bit.
That was so good I had to watch it twice in a row.
Even better 24hrs later>>>
One of the best pieces from Bill Maher! Acceptance of the reality of war, history and the current state is critical. Bill hit the nail on the head!
OK. So tell us where do Palestinians go after this?
Facts and history are racist.
They are also all propaganda.
We should only follow propaganda if it comes from TikTok or a protest sign.
Then it is righteous truth.
Sorry, sarcasm is my default humor anymore, lol But I do find it sad how many people that clamor for tolerance and diversity seem so uninterested in history and context.
I guess just human nature though, all of us like feeding our bias and blocking out anything that challenges it. Do love this clip though, people seeing both sides of every issue is the only starting point for peace. In any situation. Too many are so one sided in everything it, and most media only seems to want that to be the case.
Awesome job, Bill!
You nailed it! 🎉
Ahhh yes, such a brilliant piece by Bill. By this logic, just let Russia take what they want...including Alaska. It's the natural progression of things, right? 😂😂
@@ms_beastieway to miss the point buddy lmao
It is good to have Bill Maher say something sensible, like he has been doing recently ... he understands that he need not take sides ...
Brilliant show‼️
This is brilliant! Thank you, Bill Maher!!!!
Used to like Bill, but he's turning into a grumpy republican. Not Brilliant in the slightest.
Bill Maher is a Jew so that's why he supports Israel.
But Europeans forced spread Christianity by the sword they forced Jesus on everyone Africans South Americans North Americans Asians Pacific Islanders Oceania the whole world they forced Jesus on everyone 😂😂😂
My ancestors were Swabian Germans who migrated to Hungary in the mid 1800's and lived together as Germans but spoke Hungarian outside the home for generations. After WWII Russia had possession of Hungary and an Ethnic persecution began of the Germans. In total, 239,000 Swabian Germans were forced to leave Hungary. It is estimated that 11,000 ethnic Germans civilians lost their lives during the expulsions. This has been the way of the world for nearly the entire history of humanity.
I am very sorry your ancestors and other Swabians had to go through that ordeal. No one should be persecuted for their culture, ethnicity, or language, and just because this type of persecution is ubiquitous throughout history doesn’t mean it’s inevitable and doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be fought. I think that what Bill is arguing comes dangerously close to “might makes right.” Just because things happen often doesn’t mean they’re okay or should be considered acceptable.
It’s true that both Israelis and Palestinians have harmed each other, but two wrongs do not make a right. It is important to consider the scale of harm done on both sides during these conflicts, especially in recent times. For example, in this current conflict, 1400 Israelis were killed, and in response 20400 Gazans were killed. Or, in 2018 and 2019, when 200 or so Palestinians, most of whom were nonviolently protesting, were killed by the IDF, even though no Israelis were killed. I think that in recent years, Israel has shown a trend of responding disproportionately to conflicts in ways that engender more hatred and mistrust toward the Israeli government within the occupied Palestinian territories.
Palestinians live under constant surveillance and restriction from the outside world, and they face forced eviction, brutalization, murder, and a lack of economic opportunity. They are not in a position to work toward peace if they are constantly struggling to get food on the table or to keep their homes from becoming part of settlements. In order to truly move toward peace, I think that the Israeli government should show Palestinians that it is operating in good faith and truly wants an end to the violence and freedom on both sides. An important first step in this direction is to implement a ceasefire, which is what the vast majority of the American people and pro-Palestinian activists support.
Finally, I would like to make it clear that I apply these standards to all conflicts, not just this one. if I had been alive during your ancestors’ time, I would have advocated against their persecution, as I do now against the persecution of Palestinians, and as I will in the future whenever the rights of an oppressed minority are infringed upon.
Very well put. Thank you .@@WyattTheGuyatt
….and because it happened to you I should just accept that it happened to me, me as in Palestinian?!?!! Our land, our homes we stolen and kind of atrocities were committed against my people, the Zionists who we took in as refugees fleeing prosecution in Europe turned around and stabbed us in the back. We will get our land back if not today then tomorrow…..free free Palestine
Bill Maher justifying genocide because this isn't the first time there has been genocide is ridiculous. We are in 2023 and the World can do more to stop it.
@@WyattTheGuyatt Israel left Gaza in 2005 completely. What Gazans did during subsequent 18 years?
Bill Maher is the best in the business .He knows what to say ,to whom to say it and when to say it, One of the most respected people in the world, believe me. He is a refreshing voice to hear out there among the insanity that's coming from all directions. Oh and he doesn't play the partisan card , if you messed up on the left he'll let you have it, you mess up on the right, you'll hear it from him, with there's only the a straight line . Thank you Mr. Maher.
This was surprisingly rational and thought out
Yeah this guy didn't become a national celebrity and gathered 2M+ following on youtube without a highly talented writing team. (From the looks of it, probably jewish 😄 ).
Arabs never miss an opportunity-to miss an opportunity-Abba Eban
Zionists never miss an opportunity to make up a dishonest narrative with a catchy phrase.
What made the Palestinians miss all these opportunities is not the Palestinian public - or their leadership, but rather the Arab Monarchies , Arab dictators and the Mullahs of Iran. Because, these 3 different groups, know very well, if the Palestinian/Israel conflict is solved, they’ll not last even few years after that.
@@Abdulkga They have never been given a fair offer EVER. In 1993, the Palestinians agreed with the UN and international positions of land for peace - it was the Israelis and US who wanted all kinds of compromises. The West Bank would have been 250 ghettos surrounded by Jewish settlers. In 1948, a native people were invaded by violent Jewish terrorists who even killed British peacekeepers and UN peace envoys. The outside powers decided to give half of Palestine to the invaders who were in the minority. It would be like a bunch of Central Americans illegally invade Texas and CA, and we give the illegals Los Angeles and Houston, and tell the Americans to get the f*** out, and move to the desert to live in a refugee camp for 75 years. What people in the world would accept that?
Neither religious or partisan here. Commonsense for the win!
Spot on New Rules
That's what Putin is saying, I am glad people are seeing that Russia is right, it was their land and they can reclaim it :)
So common sense is Bill saying ethnic cleansing has happened before so it’s okay for it to happen now. He knows Israel wants to keep full control of Palestine and Israel will not negotiate.
@@kukisterfunny you mention putler. Fears of a return of virulent state-sponsored antisemitism in Russia prompted one of Moscow’s chief rabbis, Pinchas Goldschmidt, to flee the country last year and relocate to Israel. The world knows where the Nazis are - they’re inside Russia.
But Zionism is very much present-- only of you are bright enough to notice it.
@@kukister Not even close.
I proudly support Israel. The Jews are the indigenous people of Israel. The Palestinians are the actual colonizers, but the love being in the false victim mentality. They brought the attack and didn't like the outcome. You get what you pay for.
Great points about the conflict and what makes the most sense going forward
Sitting in Israel and hearing this is a sight for sore eyes!!! Thank you for staying the obvious, in your inimical way. Time to face facts and even, imaginary as it may be, make peace??? Thank you💙🇮🇱
Many people understand, love and support Israel. Just all the hate-propaganda is affecting the other half too much. Stay safe, dear friend, we adore you and your culture.
How do you exactly expect peace if Israel even before the 7th october still occupies Palestinian territories and displace the people from their homes? You say peace, but it sounds like you suggest surrender.
"From the river to the sea" is only bad if they do it - It's literraly the moto of Likud founding charter ... Funny how you little zionist degenerates gaslight peace as you engage in ethnic cleansing of west bank...
Do you believe Palestinians are animals? Why don’t you guys give equal rights to Palestinians to make them live peacefully with you?
You may have exaggeratied sense of what it is actually like. Plus extremely complex. If you are 100% on one side of this issue, you need to do more reading from other perspective. Bobody should feel like "Their Side" is completely righteous withinall of this. And why would you attack poster for thinking Pals are animals? Jumping the gun I'd say. @@KittyCat-lp3zy
There was also the Partition of 1947 when Pakistan was created out of a part of India (initially named West Pakistan as there was also an East Pakistan created (now Bangladesh)).
Millions of Hindus and Sikhs had to leave their ancestral homeland and Muslims on the "wrong" side of the border also moved across to Pakistan. The transition was bloody: 15 Million were displaced and a Million died.
It should be said that many Muslims stayed in India and today the Muslim populations of Pakistan and India are actually nearly the same; approximately 240M and 200M respectively.
Do you own a toilet?
@@overtonwindows I gave that example as it has similarities with Israel/Palestine and the British dividing land.
I don't quite understand your rather odd comment but I assume it is meant as some sort of insult.
So I'm really curious.
Which part of my comment did you find offensive?
@@overtonwindowsI do not know why Hamas steels toilets. Is that a Muslim thing or a Pakistani / hamas thing?
@@overtonwindows Maybe after you find a toilet, you can get to your point.
@@parjau4554I do think there are some major differences between Israel/Palestine and the partition that also need to be acknowledged.
Mainly, the partition was a blunder made a retreating coloniser that it thought would help it navigate the geo politics of the world in the wests best interests. Israel/Palestine though is a case some might argue is an active colonisation, with the West Bank having settler colonies.
People didn’t move across borders because their homes were being taken by an occupational force, they had moved because an arbitrary line, fuelled by communal violence had been cut across the land they already had inhabited.
Both events have scarred those it had effected, and these scars shall take generations before they begin to fade.
Thank you for the historical context.
There can never be a 2-state solution because Islam. "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."--Hamas Covenant
Bill Maher: "Borders change, get over it."
Also Bill Maher: "There's an ancestral claim going back 3000 years, rooted in the Bible"
ALSO Bill Maher: "I made the Documentary 'Religulous' because the Bible is not accurate-history."
American Logic in a Nutshell.
so in addition to what Norman Filkensten calls “ignorant sack of shit” you have a person who has no core
That's not exactly what he said, but, do go on.
It's rooted in something called Archeology. Look it up.
Nice work cherry picking data, quoting out of context, and misrepresentation. Thanks, Ahmed.
perhaps I'm wrong, but I read somewhere that the desire to avenge the Nakhba is passed down from generation to generation among Palestinians. All that hate is harnessed by Hamas and Hamas uses that hate to generate more hate. A vicious cycle with no end.
It's also passed down in the leading American universities, mostly thanks to soviet-era KGB work on the subject
They somehow engineered that it would be "liberal" to promote ethnic cleansing of Jews from the middle east, and yet it's not considered "liberal" to promote ethnic cleansing of any other race/religion from any other region/country...
@@neko6no liberals are promoting ethnic cleansing of Jews
Unfortunately the current war is creating more hate in the next generation. A terrible situation for the civilians on both sides.
It's almost like people living and dying under occupation hate their oppressor. Who would have known 🤷♂️
Hate will be there regardless of the outcome of the war, as long as the arabs continue to educate their kids to hate.@@dimsumdensum4985
Bill, this is your best monolog...so far!!
Hi Bill Maher. How about I step into your Beverly Hills mansion, call it my own and then say "Sorry, things change."
Under the UN's partition plan individual property ownership didn't change, the country to which it was a part did. That is until the Arabs attacked Israel because they refused to accept Israel's existence. And Muslims are in no position to complain about stolen land given the fact Islam is based on imperialism.
This is exactly the way I've thought of this conflict for years.
Me too, he just articulated it better with more historical examples!
except it's not.
@@johnsolodovesky582 it's not what?
@@mcleananderson4948 There's a lot of historical inaccuracies - such as that the West Bank alone was the "original UN partition deal" (it is only about a 1/3 of what was promised to the Palestinians in 1947 which itself is less than a third of what they had pre-Zionism), or that Jews were kicked out of Muslim countries post-1948 (only Syria, the vast majority of the Jewish migration was willingly to the new Jewish state to do "Aliyah" and take advantage of land incentives), or that Palestine attacked again and again and lost (the six-day war was started by Israel), or misrepresentations "Arafat was offered 95% of the West Bank" (the Palestinians were not offered the most important part - Jerusalem. And the West Bank at the very least should be wholly Palestine - annexing even more of it through a peace deal is ridiculous.)
@@joshitheyoshi2533 And now the Arabs have nothing, and did not offer any realistic counter offers, only "from the river to the sea" fantasies. The losers of wars do not dictate terms. At this point, the world is exhausted from Arabs refusing to live in peace, and no one cares anymore. They've had their dozens of chances to move forward in peace, and they continually chose war, and now they will have it.
You forgot the biggest mass movement in modern history, when people had to move from their ancestral lands due to a Partition _inventing a new nation_ from scratch, i.e., the *10 million Indians who became refugees in their own motherland, in 1947, when lndia was dismembered to create Pakistan!* The thing is *when Muslims **_get_** it's fine, when they **_have to give_** it ain't.* This is also true in the case of Kosovo. Israel is the only case when history has asked Islam to give, and look how badly they've taken it.
Yes, they also talk about The Nakba, of Arabs leaving during the 1948 war of aggression against Israel, but never mention the nakba, of one million Jews forced to leave Arab countries from 1948. This is probably less widely known, because those Jewish refugees moved on and progressed, instead of claiming perpetual refugee status.
...let alone the fact that half of those who were offered Israeli citizenship agreed and are now 21%, many openly hating Jews with impunity. And it makes me speechless how the Arabs call 'catastrophe', the word Jews use to describe the extermination of millions, their ancestors having to walk a few kilometres to settle in a new place. @@slabo8226
Good point olaf
Hasbara bots
@olafshmokirtmukh9935 Now this finally makes sense: ruclips.net/video/p-iNWaBZ3-w/видео.html
Great work g-d blesses those who support Israel !
Bill Maher: always on point in his deliciously, ironic way.
A crash course on history of PALESTINIAN STATE:
1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state
2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE
Thanks for this info. You have gone back in factual history even farther than I do. Of course Palestinians will say it is all a lie. They have just learned how to manipulate the press better over the years. But their lies are still lies.
Yes, but after creating a Jewish STATE there were promises of a Palestinian STATE.
When?
Source: western media
@@PrimoStracciatella they start blasting words after they lose to the war they started
The best lesson for people whose knowledge of the matter is limited to a couple of slogans. Share this to your 15 years nieces (and to any adult thinking like them).
Problem is, they won’t watch cause it’s Burr. Even though they’ve never heard or watched him.
Bill’s knowledge of history is limited to a couple of slogans.
bill is actually extremely informative and educated on this matter and a lot more. probably bc he does not get his info from tiktok@@KitTaylorOfficial
What was I supposed to learn from the video? That might makes right? He was literally defending colonialism.
@@RBurns80 I don't know, should _you_ learn something from it? I said the video is the best lesson _for people limited to reasoning in slogans_ ... and newspeak keywords, so... You tell me. If you have studied a bit the subject you probably knew _already_ that every single refusal of peace offerings and every single attacks by Arabs (later known as Palestinians) against Israel have always been counterproductive for the hypothesis of a Palestine state and for the good life of the claimed territories.
One obvious implied suggestion of the video is, at least change your main slogan from genocidal to peace-compatible. (If you love Palestinians more than you hate Israeli...)
Of course you hardly learn anything new from an 8 minutes satire piece _if_ you're informed beforehand.
Another brilliant piece From Bill Maher..Sums it up beautifully…Get over it and start investing in your people…
Get over genocide. Delusional
Isreal don't want the indigenous Palestinian to live a normal life with human rights... never wanted neither 2 states nor 1 democratic secular state... they only want to enticingly cleanse the remaining indigenous palestinians for some religious bullshit myth ... they never wanted to negotiate,,, only keeping Jabotinsky's Iron Wall policy
First time in a good long while I had a standing ovation in my living room.
"I guess we could put the Wailing Wall on the border and kill to birds with one stone (with photo)." Hilarious.
Could watch Bill talk about the Middle East all night. A speech actually grounded in facts and reality.
Reality is that there was no Israel before 1948. Israel has been ethnically cleansing Palestinians like they did the Canaanites. your propaganda doesn't work anymore. That's why the world is against that apartheid state.
The only "fact" is that you have brain worms. So does Bill.
Lmao
Do you think the shell shocked, bombed-out population of Gaza would applaud? Why would anyone living there today give a f*&^ about 1947? A
This is sarcasm right?
It doesn’t matter who started the cycle of suffering, what matters is who ends it.
The the thing is, islam forbids it, quran says "Kill them wherever you come upon them and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out"
Hate often turns into a lifestyle.
It sure wont be tge tge vengful entitled narcassiatic Xionists who give one fuk about religion
Except that Hamas and Hezbollah and other terror groups in the region keep starting it up over and over and over again.
Israel has always fought a defensive war.
We need Naruto
Bravo, bravo, bravo!!
Looking back, we probably shouldn’t have put sports above education.
History & geography was taught by coaches & education stopped. They were study halls.
My American history class was taught by a coach and he was great. Taught us the main facts he wanted us to know and I’ve remembered them all and I’m 76.
Probably? Sports are not education. Sports are activity.
We just shouldn't have allowed to communists to take over education. Joe McCarthy was right he warned everyone that the Communists were taking over. Taking over academia after taking over Hollywood taking over the government taking over the internet.. He warned everyone and nobody listened. If you had Americans teaching education instead of communists they would be more proficient in math science and reading and they would know basic history and they would learn how to do their taxes instead of learning critical race theory and had to switch their gender
Bill is a brilliant voice for our times!
Thank you Bill . You have a lot of listeners hopefully some impact !
Dead on Bill. But important correction:
The U.N. 1947 Partition Plan that you mentioned at 5:35 didn't allot just the West Bank to the Arabs. All of today's Jordan
(referred to as Trans-Jordan during the British Mandate period) plus the West Bank was to go to the Arabs. What was left to the Jews was an army general's nightmare but the Jewish population of the Mandate accepted it. What the Arabs would've gotten would've been an area about 4 times the size of today's Israel and about 15 times bigger than today's West Bank.
Also what history neglects to say is that many of today's palestinians moved into today's Israel in the early 20th Century as economic conditions improved from the British being there after WW1 and also from the first wave of Jews entering the land at the end of the 19th Century. Lastly it's important to note that Jews have always lived in Israel from ancient times to the present day.
You should also note that on ancient Egypt, the old kingdom ruled that land long before Hebrew was invented from 2500-1800 bc.
The best propaganda the Muslim Arabs ever produced was the idea that 'all the Jews' just suddneley appeared in THEIR LAND in 1948 ...
There has been an Arab population in Israel/Palestine at least since the 7th century AD (Jews have been there longer, but still, it's a substantial historical period). But the notion that Arabs living in Israel/Palestine form a separate nation is much more recent. Arguably, so is the notion of Syrian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Iraqi nations. All these countries were created by the British and the French when they took over a large part of the former Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I. IIRC, prior to that, the Arabs perceived Palestine as part of Syria, not as a separate ethnic/national entity. It was the Jews who perceived the Land of Israel as a distinct historical-geographic-national unit
Was it bad editing or bad writing? He went from the nativity to 86% Christian in 0.35 secs instead of 1,950 years!
@@ugolomb Quite right. In fact the capital of Ottoman Palestine was Damascus. It is an interesting point of history that in all the centuries of invasion and occupation only the Jewish people ever called Jerusalem our capital. (There were always Jews living in the (former) land of Israel, even when not in control and Jerusalem was and still is the holiest place and the place to turn towards in prayer.)
Back to capitals: Romans had Caesarea, Mamlukes had Cairo, Muslims had Ramla, Crusaders had Acre ...
Thank you Bill but please acknowledge the Armenian too, we’ve been kicked out of our land so many times
Including 100,000 from Nagorno Karabakh just a few months ago. And the world didn't even say a thing.
Which the Armenian people always dealt with peacefully, never firing a shot. Right?
All the money raised on their behalf in the 20th century made them rich in America, huh?
Tell 'em!
Turkey needs to take responsibility for the Armenian genocide!
Turkey’s insistence a in whitewashing this crime against humanity is a travesty
I don’t get why this is so hard to grasp.
You can realize how broken a modern society is when comedy shows become more credible in telling the truth than news.
Even as a comedian, Bill Maher explained the situation better than you would get in most college classrooms. Hopefully, our misled young people are paying attention.
If you have the IQ of a teenager? Historically inaccurate apologies for genocide masquerading as comedy are only suitable for two audiences: idiots and genocide enthusiasts. Which one are you, I wonder?
💯 agreed
Nah they’ll just go full speed into the wall until life teaches them better, just like the rest of us did as younger people 😂
U can be sure they are NOT.... but hey, what else is new
If they were paying attention, they wouldn't have let themselves get indoctrinated by their looney tunes professors in the first place.
This is the most eloquent statement about the reality of the existence of Israel I've heard that really helps me to clarify my thinking about the issue. Palestinians must accept Israel's right to exist and it would work much more towards a viable two-state solution instead we have this horrible conflict.
Why didn't the west accept Israel's "right to exist" and make them a homeland somewhere in the western world? Perhaps "not in their backyard" ?
Israel does NOT want a two state solution and that is the whole basis of this mess. The Zionists believe that all of Palestine belongs to them because their little book tells them so.
Bro, the Palestinian ambassador to the uk just came out and said that Israel will never accept a two state solution.
Most Palestinians don't want Israel to not exist, they want Israel to obey international fucking law and stop carpet bombing their homes
Eloquent, yes; but also one-sided as it completely ignores the Palestinian perspective. Mr. Maher and all advocates for Israel ignore the fact that this untenable situation came about when in 1917 the British Empire promised to establish a homeland for the Jews and ignored the views of the people who already lived there. But this was an all too typical "generous" gesture of the British Empire - namely to promise something which did not belong to them to someone else. (Promising in 1915 to give Dalmatia and South Tyrolia to Italy is another example.) If Britain wanted to be so generous and establish a Jewish Homeland they should have given the Jews some land which was British, a couple of their own home counties. And as for the UN Partition Plan, were the Palestinians consulted? Of course, not. As Bertrand Russell pointed out at that time, "No people anywhere in the world would accept being expelled en-masse from their own country; how can anyone require the people of Palestine to accept a punishment which no body else would tolerate?" There are now some 7 million Palestinians and 7 million Jews who live in the territory of the former Palestinian mandate. The two state solution is long dead, as the West Bank settlements make a Palestinian state non-viable. The only solution now is a one state solution in which both Palestinians and Jews share the territory. As Tony Judt warned in his 2003 essay in the New York Review of Books, if Israel continued with its settlements policies in the West Bank it would destroy any possibility of a two state solution. Israel then would have to choose between being a Jewish state or a democratic state. It could not be both. Under the Netanyahu it has clearly chosen to be the former by disenfranchising the vast majority of the 7 million Palestinians who live under Israeli control.
His entire argument is basically shit happens and Arabs are the bad guys. Nothing eloquent whatsoever.
I live in Utah...and I teach United States history to eighth-grade students...and I remind them that Utah was Mexico...which was New Spain...which was taken from the Native Americans. Should we feel bad about ANY of that? No. I have only lived in Utah for fifteen years. I didn't conquer ANYONE and I didn't steal ANYTHING -- and my students didn't kill anyone or take any land either.
And the indian tribes living there during the time of the Spanish had taken the land from earlier tribes who in turn had taken the land from even earlier tribes, going all the way back to prehistoric cavemen crossing the ice bridge 10-20,000 years ago. Thank god the Indians were illiterate with no way of transmitting memories of ancient grievances.
He puts everything perfectly in to persoective.
As a Kurd, I stand with Israel against Arab imperialism and Islamofascism.
Since my great grandmother was Kurdish herself and Jewish moved to Israel /ottoman Palestine
We strongly support you too
why are all Kurds such sellouts? 😂
Some Kurds are just bitches for the west. You know Israel and Turkey are military partners right?
Egypt was one of the countries that went to war with Israel 3 times. And now they live in peace thanks to the Camp David Accords. Egypt didn’t just suddenly become overrun with Zionists. The leadership in Egypt simply realized that Israel wasn’t going anywhere, and attacking Israel was in fact detrimental to Egypt. Jordan followed suit in the 90s. And UAE and Morocco followed suit in 2020.
going somewhere does not necessary to other countries. Besides that Israeli expansion went from Akka and now is going to Gazza, it already took Aljoulan from Syria and Kafar Shouba from Lebanon, and now is intending to take Sanai desert from Egypt as well.
@@user-vt1hf9cm7l Israel has no intention of ruling Gaza again (it ethnically cleansed all Jews from it in 2006) and Israel and Egypt have peace. Israel gave Egypt Sinai back years ago... I guess facts won't help your wild imagination but I thought I'd give it a try 🤷♂
@@user-vt1hf9cm7l...These lies wouldn't help save your beloved palestine😅
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If israel wanted Sainai, they had a right to annex it in 1970s.
But they gave Sainai back to you and in return, you signed a peace treaty.
Omg.. You guys shouldn't learn history in madrassa
Because of this deal they do not have the power to use their border crossing to bring aide to Gaza. Israel controls every border of Gaza completely. That is why Israel is responsible for the starvation of Gazans.
Bill is basically saying “Peace is better than war, and two states will be better for everyone”
Reactionaries “How dare you”
Bill forgot to mention that every year palestine proposes the two state 1967 borders solution but Israel rejects it every year. He didnt meantion that one did he? because bill hates muslims so he does israel propaganda, simple as that. If you knew anything about the matter, you wouldnt make your generic comment.
yeah NO
Sorry Bill, but with this war, the western myth of a two state solution is gone. Not going to happen. In fact, Israel refuses to discuss it further. Somebody tell Joe and his Secretary of State. You fantasize for a two state solution, but over in Paly Land, they dream of your death and a one state solution, and say it loudly, but you are deaf.
Unfortunately the Israeli government have made it clear that they do not want a 2 state solution.
No what he's saying is Israel is here to stay and Palestinians best get used to it. Having said that, Palestinians foolishly expect Israel to just disappear with zero leverage. It's just a sad situation all round.
Thank you Bill Maher for your brilliant explanation of the truth. Even the comments said in jest, were real and on target
Worst apology for genocide I have ever heard. 'From the Euphrates to the Mediterranean': Ariel Sharon.
If there is a genocide occurring, then why didn't the ICJ order a ceasefire as South Africa had requested?
@@user-fx5tm1ll4k I give up. Why didn't they?
Good to see that there are a few people with common sense left on the left.
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The left is the only side that has common sense since people don’t like to be told what to do with their lives and you can’t massively lower taxes and massively increase spending on the military and police.
Common sense to accept ethnic cleansing that continues today?
Oh,come on!!
The left would never vote for a Clown like Trump!!🤣
What could possibly make more sense than billy making excuses for geno-side during the holiday season. Happy holidays everyone.
While good sense on the right is in negative numbers...