This whole video is full of strawman arguments. Easy to pick someone's argument apart when you willfully misunderstand it. Hamas are terrorists but so is Benjamin Netanyahu and his illegal seizing of land from innocent Palestinian citizens for "settlements".
And bastions of opinionated liberal thought where undergrads believe only their voice matters and are opposed to contradicting viewpoints. They’re young nazis who grow to be the future leaders of the (democ)Rat party!
The Maher staff who wrote this video's dialogue are stupid. They had this liberal yap about how a number of Republicans went to Yale...MANY YEARS AGO. Yale today is not what Yale was 30 years ago. DUH. And Maher is old enough to know this. But he refuses to know this because he wanted to attack Republicans. What a JERK he is.
As an immigrant from Italy with a 3rd grade education, my father was one of the smartest people I've known. He could build anything, fix anything, got a job in a rubber factory building tires, was promoted to job setter, was offered a supervisory job but hesitated simply because he couldn't write well in English. All this with a 3rd grade education! A college degree doesn't make one smarter, it just makes them officially smart.
@@Beefnhammer "Educated doesn't mean intelligent. You're born either smart or not. Genetics seems to play a sizable role, from my own observations." Yes, however. Intellect is great, but it's also very important to use whatever intellect you have to learn. It doesn't matter how "smart" you are. If you don't learn anything valuable. How are you going to function. The real problem with America and places like it, isn't that people aren't smart. I mean that is a factor too, but a bigger problem is this. Forget Higher education. Education in general is pitiful here in the states. Getting an advanced education will help you not to get taken advantage of. I'll tell you one thing though. Thank Christ for the internet. I personally have learned so much just constantly reading and looking up things, and even just sitting back and watching videos. Lastly, Just as important as Bill Maher here is actively trying to mislead people into not getting a higher education, and yes your going to learn bullshit that isn't true, but you're also going to learn valuable skills on various other subjects. For example: Things like math, calculus, algebra, English, and so many other things aren't as up for debate as history, and I agree that we need to keep history as factual as we can. I just think saying "No" to collage isn't the smartest way to go about it.
Sounds like my father, but he did go through high school. He could quote anything and anyone. He built our home and taught my brother and sister to do all the things he did. We all went to college, but we learned a lot from my father.
@@jeffreymcquillen1208 I majored in Environmental Science and at this point I think there are three serious conversations that need to happen regarding school/college in America. 1. The student debt that's out there has to be forgiven for most students. I can't even afford to even live on my own, even if I had a job in the field that math wouldn't change on that. 2. We need to look at why our high school system has fallen apart. I feel like a lot of high school's problems have been offshored to colleges. My gut tells me that a huge part of the problem is the sheer number of Americans living in poverty or experiencing financial hardship. I think shortening high school to three years, while at the same time making community college free is one solution. 3. If a job is going to require a college degree, the minimum wage said can pay is $25 an hour, full time time 32+ hours a week. Community College should be free for everyone, as they offer the first two years of a BS.
My company president once said “there are 30% of us in this company that went to college and we can’t sell anything, fix anything, build anything and we don’t know our products intimately enough to help with the supply chain or negotiate delivery and prices.” He later went on to say “when we need to cut costs our first thoughts are cut employees at the bottom, charge employees more for their portion of healthcare and take away overtime, it’s never been the people with college degrees that have kept this company going.”
I would swap "don't go to college" with "don't go to an expensive college". So many jobs require a Bachelor's at minimum, but they don't really care where you went or what you majored in. They're usually much more interested in your work experience.
I would swap it with “only go to college for certain things and only at certain places”. College has become broad and only 15% of degree have real career paths and use.
Exactly. I have two IT degrees... perhaps 5% of what I learned applied to actual jobs I held over the last 30 years. Most college is nothing more than a business to make money and employ staff (like all other businesses). Every graduating high school student should get a free 2 year enrollment into their choice of a community training school that teaches trades. If nothing else, to learn basic skills so people can fix things around their house. LOL
people go to expensive colleges, preferably Ivy league, for the networking and the reputation you can then show off in your job applications. obviously if all you do is go to college, no extra curricular activities that compound to your future job interests AND the degree itself isnt much of a qualification for a specific job, then you are in a bad spot. Especially if you have a lot of debt thanks to tuitions.
Thank you! I'm getting sick of all this rhetoric of shitting on people for going to college. As a first-gen college student, I went bc I had a career in mind and I knew I needed a degree to do it, and LEARN about it. I never learned what I needed to learn for my career in high school, hell, you don't learn much of anything in high school, unless you go to a career-tech one. The difference is, I went to a state college that was cheap and close to home, and a fraction of the cost of some dumb elite university. Same education, and still learned the skills I needed, NOT something you can just teach yourself from an Internet search, which many people seem to think you can do to become an expert in something
I agree but I’m sorry. I’m tired of college educated ppl telling others not to go to college. How is that any different than what they claim colleges are doing to students? They’re literally telling you what to think also. I’m personally big on education and I think it very important for those who want it. Definitely don’t need to go to an expensive college unless you have a full ride scholarship. Definitely go to community college first then a university if it’s cheaper. Not everyone has to go to college but telling kids that they shouldn’t is irresponsible especially when you can just teach them to be steadfast in their beliefs.
My father is a blue collar worker and my mother is a home maker. My grandmama is a woman of God. They all support Palestine 🇵🇸. All my family supports Palestinians. We are Mexican Americans and we all know colonialism when we see it. And white supremacy.
I taught a masters level ethics class before I left academia, and students would approach me privately to share their peer-unapproved thoughts. Students know they will be shunned, and their peers can affect their longterm career prospects. The incentives aren't there for honest, open discussion. But the problem goes all the way up to the tenured faculty having a hive mind and looking for reasons to reject tenure proposals from professors who don't fit in. And it starts early when new professors are still at the tenure-track level, where hiring decisions are decided primarily by faculty vote, further leading to the homogenization of 'academics.' Lecturers and teaching professors are barely even acknowledged as existing and serve only to pick up the work loads of the tenured and tenure-track faculty. As they are particularly dependent on student evaluations of their teaching, rocking the boat is an even greater risk. So however bad it is now, it's only getting worse.
@@katharinephipps1637 The shame is on those of you who leap to assumptions. This was not a comprehensive list of everything I taught in that course nor of my efforts to stir open discourse--merely a bit of insight from someone who has been in a position to which few are privy. You can use it to learn and grow or you can do as intractable small minds are apt to do: pretend you are in a position to wag your finger at someone for their supposed failure when you clearly lack the intellect for basic reading comprehension.
I'M sorry but I have to agree with A-Nonnie-Mouse on this one. I also taught, and still do, a master class but for foreign students and you are given a list of things/topics you are not allowed to discuss. @@katharinephipps1637
Man Bill, thank you so much! I see demonstrations of ignorant students shouting from the river to the sea and I guarantee you they can't find any of them on a map (Mediterranean Sea, Jordan River BTW). I have also been in Israel all my life and no one claims that it is a perfect country, far from it, but I studied at the university with Arab friends and voted with them on the same ballot, my child's kindergarten teacher is an Arab woman and my colleagues at work. Since the establishment of the state there have been Arab members of parliament and in the previous government an Arab party was in the government. It just doesn't happen in apartheid. This only happens in a democracy. Ignorance and lies are a real problem, they just feel they are supposed to shout their nonsense without realizing that it really affects other people's lives.
It's interesting here at UCSB. The pro-Palestinian crowd scheduled what they thought was going to be an all-campus walkout of class this week. Out of 25K -30K students only 200 participated so I think that this is really overblown in terms of what the participation really is on these campuses. I don't think it's not some big number.
@nogagazal9851 you seem like the type of ignorant person who doesn't know how Israel came to be and thinks everyone who disagrees with you is a PRO TERRORER! Imagine everyone who hates the Jews and denies the Holocaust and thinks Jews run the world under threat of space laser support Israel and you still come up with "If you say Free Palestine you're antisemitic!" Lulz
It's not about arab Israeli. It's about Palestinians, living in the West Bank. They can be murdered at will by the settlers, they can be arrested or killed at will by the army, spend months and years in prison without process. They can be dispossessed of their home on a whim if the settlers wants to steal it. They can't use the roads reserved to the settlers, they can be shot while working in their fields or travelling from their homes. And that happens every single day. That's apartheid and ethnic cleansing at the same time. Of course, Maher never speak about them, as he has been dehumanizing Palestinians since forever, content to spread racism and untruth about their plight at every opportunity.
Exactly what they said about Americans who wanted civil rights and an end to segregation. A life long Bill Maher fan, but he is completely wrong, there are extremists anywhere but college makes one an informed voter, open to ideas, and a critical thinker and someone with a sense of history and the mistakes made over centuries.
@@mecha-sheep7674 I totally agree. Did you see Maher's show a couple of weeks ago, when he went on a rant about how morally superior Israelis are to Palestinians? 🤨 Anybody who doesn't agree with him on this issue, he attacks aggressively. Talk about cancel culture‼️🙄 he wants to cancel certain ppl by permanently eliminating them😐 And I also think this "Don't Go to College" thing he's spewing, is related to this same issue, as well. Mainly bcz most of the ppl here in the US, who were actively protesting what the Israeli Government is doing, are an overwhelming amount of Jewish Scholars, and Rabbis. Maher is the one trying to indoctrinate ppl, NOT Colleges. And he's always bitching on his show, about 'Cancel Culture", while he wants to cancel "certain" ppl in the most extreme and inhumane manner.🫤
False. My buddy graduated from Harvard and he is very open minded. You might as well say "all white folks are racists and all blacks are thugs." Neither is true. Do not judge an entire group with the most loudest among them.
4 all idiots and book dummies bragging about how they went to harvard and trying to prove how they were smarter than everyone else ... seen hundreds on tv though and they always manage to do the complete opposite of common sense and eff things up for the world @@bryanmachin3738
In German we say: Handicraft has golden soil. My recommendation to all young people in the world. Learn a craft, then you can always go on to a second education in another field. If that doesn't work out, you always have a reassurance in your first education. Craftsmen like carpenters, plumbers, electricians etc. are always needed.
This 1000% I have a bachelor's in communications yet have made more money than most of my peers working a trade and getting good at it over the last 12 years
Yes, but the different between normal college and the "elite" university is the connection to all the jobs and firm you will get. However, that changes now since many "elite" universities with many billionaires, CEO and firm will have second thought now.
I got a BA back in the 80s and that was friggin hard. I actually had to study and work my butt off to get that degree. Sleepless nights, fingers worn raw from taking notes (see kids, there used to be these things called 'pen and paper' and they were essential to college life). People flunked out all of the time, and the attitude in the college was 'don't want to work? don't let the door hit you in the ass'. I went back for my Masters in 2015 and I couldn't believe how it had changed. Nobody worked, no professor challenged anyone's ideas or introduced ideas that weren't 'coddled child friendly'. People in grad school who didn't know the difference between their, there and they're. Teachers who didn't care that they didn't know, and never marked off for basic mistakes these students should have learned in 7th grade. It was nothing but a diploma mill. None of those kids were learning anything. It was really quite sad.
I graduated in 1987. I thought to take a few years off and work, then get my MBA at night. Then I saw the quality if students colleges were turning out just a few years later. I supervised graduates that couldn't solve simple business problems, but were getting straight A's in graduate school. Decided it wasn't worth going back for an advanced degree.
@@user-ok6ht5bk3e I dont really use either of my degrees for my actual job, but I do get paid more for having them so it was worth it for me but I get your point
I’m a retired RN and my training was essential to caring for patients but in 1983 started out $8.65/hr and would be maxed out at $17. But at Christmas we were given $600 bonus (LPN $300). Then INTEGRIS bought out the hospital and it was a nightmare going to corporate greed control. Christmas bonuses then went to a $25 gift certificate to the hospital gift shop where a candy bar was doubled the price at the grocery store. They picked on & tried to fire the experienced nurses to avoid them being there 10 years to qualify for pension. They stopped rolling over time off into the “bank” for use at a later date but would refuse time off saying we were a specialty unit and couldn’t be filled with agency nurses. They teamed with OK Unemployment to refuse benefits. Corporate hand in hand with political corruption. At our orientation at the buyout the woman demanded no tolerance for missed days of work. At the end when she asked if any questions an employee asked what about calling in if we’d died. He was grinning and she puffed up, turned red face and hatefully said “Then you BETTER have someone call in for you!” All of us looked shocked at each other, sadly hit with the stark reality that this brand of healthcare was NOT a good thing. Needless to say I worked sick many days.
I needed my master's degree (from a private college) to practice in my field. But every time I hire a plumber, roofer or electrician, they all are earning way more per hour than I am.
That's because these colleges focus way too much on theory and abstract crap rather than real applications. I mean...my own opinion is this. Most college students are just lazy, and college administrators know it. Students would rather get an easy degree in philosophy or psychology or something like that, rather than study something really hard like biology or chemistry or physics, or some other area of study where a real brain is required and you have to study like 12 hours a day just to pass! It's really shameful what's going on in these schools. The teachers suck. They are very lazy. They teach stuff that students won't use in the real world. Most math majors for example should be able to pass the first two or three actuarial examinations after getting their math degree, but that's usually not the case! Why not? Because colleges don't care! They don't prepare math students for the actuarial examinations BUT THEY SHOULD. Most computer science majors know the merge sort algorithm really well, but can't figure out how to design a website from scratch! That is just shameful! And these days if you go to a college you're going to drown in all the DIE crap. (Diversity, Inclusion and Equity) If you dare to speak out against it, you'll probably get censored and have to leave the college. It's a damn joke. It really is. And in the long run it's going to send a lot of potential students away. They will either join the military or go to a trade school or something like that, but I predict that if things don't change, then we're going to see colleges and universities in America with RECORD LOW STUDENT ENROLLMENTS within the next couple of decades. It's going to get bad, and I predict that eventually some of the smaller colleges and universities will just close their doors and fold. And that's because they really don't care about learning and teaching. All they care about is sucking money from the students so that the administrators can get their six-figure salaries. Totally shameful that this is going on in what is supposedly the greatest country in the world.
The necessary education for a plumber or electrician is surely much higher than nearly all degree requirement jobs… They just learn on the job. You should switch careers, it’ll only take 15 to 20 years for you to become a master electrician… That’s if you study hard…
Man comes home from work, his wife tells him the plumber was there for 15 minutes, the bill is $300. Man calls plumber, tells him that's ridiculous and says "That equals $1200 an Hour! I'm a lawyer and I only charge $400 an hour". Plumber says: "Yeah that's what I used to charge too when I was lawyer".
When I went to college in the 80s, it was actually affordable. You got value out of the degree because you were not in debt for years afterwards. I could see possibly attending for a highly specialized field, such as medicine, engineering or law, but outside of those professions, the cost benefit is no longer a wise decision. Stanford, as an example is about $80k per year if you live on campus and eat in the cafeteria. Even state schools are $15k and up. My daughter, when asked about college, did not see going for the cost involved, which made a lot of sense to me. She is preparing for a career in a very affordable profession that is usable in the real world.
That's awesome. Plenty of super high earners don't have degrees. I know tons of union skilled tradesmen. All making $150,000-ish a year. Now I'm sure someone will comment how that's not much. Uh huh. Almost no one in this country makes that much. 5%? 7%? If that.
Highest earners i know went to trade school for 2 years and started early working there way up in the buisness. By 30 they were pretty well set in life.
@@trailertrish2587 don't forget the colleges themselves offering no-value degrees as well just to get kids to sign on for something that sounds cool but is totally worthless in the real world- like gender studies, art history or liberal arts degrees. Those degrees are only good for getting low paying teaching jobs in those fields. Then you have the fact that some places have black listed certain colleges from their applications. They know if they hire someone who got their degree from College X, they'll need to spend more time training that person to do the job they are supposed to know how to do right out of school than they would from College Y or a trade school.
Heck one can argue or question the value of going to college for medicine, engineering, or law. You have to take a bunch of extra gen ed courses and other questionable classes that cost a bunch of money and like you wrote you have to pay for the on campus housing and meal plans. Heck even if you go for those things you mentioned you'll still probably have to end up learning a bunch of different things on the job site or in the work force that the school didn't prepare you for. I know someone who went to school for respiratory therapy and there was a bunch of extra stuff they had to learn up learning and adapting to working at the hospital that the college either didn't prepare them for they didn't focus on it enough.
Never more embarrassed to call myself a liberal than the past couple of months. Never felt so old than this new generation chanting 'to the river to the sea'
Well, all republicans anyway. At the same time giving a glowing review of one of the architects of today's "I hate everything about America" movements: Barack Obama.
I think he's saying don't go to a college that indoctrinates you in any way. That's not the purpose of higher education anyways. It's literally to get a higher, more specialized education before entering the work force. Not to be brainwashed.
Literally heard a masters student say they were surprised we learned about Freud and his theories based on how exclusionary they were for the queer community and people of color. This is in a social work class where understanding psychodynamic approaches is important and it’s helpful to learn about a pivotal figures in their development. Just because you don’t agree with someone’s opinions - especially a historical figure - or how they conducted themselves personally does not mean their work should be negated or that their entire character was this way. (For the most part. As always there are exceptions to the rule.) and, in any case, we shouldn’t ban topics or people to learn about. Knowing history is important so it’s not repeated or, selfishly, so you’re not horribly uniformed/misinformed.
While you may disagree with a historical figures beliefs or ideas, it is always important to learn about them so you don’t repeat them, something that is somehow being forgotten in younger generations.
The advice here should be don't overpay for your education, because just graduating from a decent school is good enough to open up opportunities. The rest of your success is up to how well you work in the real world. EDIT: Yes, it's obvious that the chosen degree and career path matter too. I thought that was completely obvious and didn't need mentioning, but everyone really wants to argue in this comment section.
@@MrGriff305 your leading people astray with that Boomer " open doors " nonsense. If you have a fluff degree all the doors will remain shut. If you have obtained in demand marketable skills you will be receiving multiple offers.
I’m a small business owner…it’s a technical service we provide….I will not be hiring any “university” students as they will most certainly not mesh with the culture I’ve started…I will be hiring trade’s people with some technical background and will train them myself to ensure they can do the job….I can teach people stuff…but if you have a mind virus…I have no cure.
Bill Maher is a Boomer of the highest order. He cherry picks & paints with a broad brush. He also tends to ignore the youth of America's past and that the state of the US is what boomers manifested.😂
None of the Republicans he listed support the woke nonsense that Bill spend the first 6 minutes ranting about, none of them support Hamas, gender ideology, safe spaces, etc.
I found it very interesting that he was very quick to throw the republican names in there, when it is actually the liberal Democrats who are supporting HAMAS and calling for segregation and protesting.
My brother runs a large company. He literally does not hire college grads with exception of the ones which require specific skills, such as the accountants. He’s told me the employees who do not have college degrees seem to be sharper and better employees. His belief is that those without college degrees feel the need to prove themselves. Those with college degrees don’t feel as compelled to have to prove themselves and so often do not, particularly those from the “Ivy League” schools. He prefers hires from state colleges and junior colleges.
@@wreckim College degrees are necessary for certain jobs. Many jobs and careers just require the degree to get you in the door, and your taught the specific skills by the company.
@@davidmeadows5627 You can call folks that clean and lock up whatever you want. You can hire IT people with no degree as well. Duh. The simple math tells you that if you have a degree, a bonafide 4-year degree from an accredited univ., you will earn much more than those that don't. Maher has been harping on the worthlessness of degrees for decades now...and it's true many degrees appear to offer nothing for the money. I don't believe that is completely true, even with art degrees or poli sci degrees etc...there are many benefits to finishing what you start. And that's part of what a degree proves. You are incredibly unlikely to end up asking people 'paper or plastic' with a college degree, it basically sets a floor, and during those years you might find that something else is in you, some hidden or latent talent. I do not know of an unsuccessful college graduate...a truly worthless soul that is lost with one. I do know many of my old HS friends, that are living through hell, and yes, some that didn't graduate from anything that are living a good life, and one is a millionaire. That's not a recipe for success, it's luck.
As a plumber I urge everyone to go to college, get a degree in whatever I don’t care and never learn anything useful let alone a trade. Become a streamer, influencer, instagram model or whatever. Because soon a massive swoop of trade masters will retire which will make us construction workers, handymen and technicians even more valuable. Then people can either pay me my $500 an hour or drown in their shit lol
It is easy for Bill Maher to tell kids not to go to college. He is one of the most privileged people in this country. But for those kids less privileged a college education is a way out of poverty. They don’t have to go to the most expensive school to get a college degree. Plenty of good state and city schools.
The best education I got was at my local community college. I went to a major university after that, and the quality of education was abysmal. Professors didn't give two craps about undergrads, and besides my calculus classes, everything was really easy.
That is your personal experience and others will disagree with you. But at your local community college you have a much smaller population of students so teachers have more time for students. At the major university where you have population sizes up to 10 times more you have to understand the teachers do not have the same time to give each student.
My experience was just the opposite. Community college was anonymous but cheap which was so important to me. Transfer to a university was shocking. I went on academic probation, had to learn to study for the first time, had to repeat some courses I had taken at the previous school and the ones they did accept did not really prepare me for the next ones in sequence at the new school requiring lots of time learning what I should have known when I transferred. Community college was just a continuation of high school for me.
@@HLJeter1966 Sure but a private university also has more money and they pay their teachers larger salaries, they should be able to have better teachers and more of them.
I used to be upset because I didn't get accepted into any Ivy League schools; now I'm relieved! I attended a small school with a healthy student to faculty ratio where I could chat with faculty over coffee and nurture my intellectual development.
AniJan....🇦🇲, My Sister in Ararat Motherland , I live on the campus of an ivy league university. The library is easy to walk into and you'll get much further by learning the most about what you are interested in and good at doing. Love,LD ⚓
My father is a blue collar worker and my mother is a home maker. My grandmama is a woman of God. They all support Palestine 🇵🇸. All my family supports Palestinians. We are Mexican Americans and we all know colonialism when we see it. And white supremacy.
Maybe your school, but at mine we protested, and engsgedxin non-violent actions to bring awareness to global warming, deforestation, acid rain, and CFCs. We understood the science and we're willing to be arrested because of the importance of these issues. But bacl then Starbucks and Chipotle werent part of the meal plan and your dorm was a small cinderblock room with bunkbeds, not the luxury apartments you find today. Students these days want to be part of something if they dont have to do anything that separates them from their phone.
"The whole point of a college degree is to show a potential employer you went somewhere four years straight and completed a series of tasks reasonably well and on time. When they see that, they know there's a semi-decent chance you'll show up every day and not fuck their business up." -Tulsa King
Nope. The point of going to college is to get an education, to become more knowledgeable, to learn about the world, to learn how to think carefully. Job training is job training. It is not education.
@@ouagadougou4672 Sure, but some people can also do that without going to college. In Tulsa King, Sly was specifically talking about how the degree itself shows you're "trainable." Hope I explained that right.
Sort of correct someone who sticks to a half baked education and finishes it says something about that person work ethic. Those who disagreed don't or haven't hired anyone in their life.
@@michaelwalters3970it depends. I hired men in construction for over forty years and never went to college. And I know many that did also. Try your thinking somewhere else 😂😂
And your mode of thinking is any better funny because all I was saying is how some employers look at education. I hire also and never demanded a degree but knowing some sticks to something does say a lot about their character. Do you hire someone who rarely makes it past a year and has had a dozen jobs in 10 years? I surely don't your logic is flawed.@@3fsw3
As a Liberal and fellow 60 something I couldn't agree with Bill more. Part of the reason we lose elections is that our crazies make the other sides crazies seem sane by comparison.
A key part of going to a competitive school is/was meeting people of different backgrounds and debating ideas, hearing different view points, arguing (civilly) with people, etc. etc. If people are afraid of stating their opinions, then really what's the point of going to college? It's sad to think there's less free speech in colleges now than 20 years ago. Political correctness and cancel culture is also part of the problem, we need to get over it. And yeah, don't let the students run the schools.
I even see this with my brother and his wife. They're nice, very smart young people but are immovable when it comes to some issues and won't even engage no matter how calmly and rationally we try to explain our points of view. They just chalk up different opinions that I and my mom have to the fact that we're older and not so enlightened. It drives me a bit nuts.
Odd, I didn't learn anything from the other students through debate, but rather in the classroom from my professor and through self study. Seems like the people that think they know the most about the college experience, show they never even went. You start by saying the students should be "debating", unless you think you should be debating the professor on the subject matter, and then say "And yeah, don't let the students run the schools". You clearly have cognitive dissonance issues here.
@@FrancisGo. You nailed me troll. Another person that thinks you debate the classroom material being presented by the professor. And yeah, there is self study that goes along with lectures. Are you really this dense?
I just quit my job as an English professor because of this (plus AI papers). I'm too white and not liberal enough and encouraged too much critical thinking.
Real. As an aspiring trade worker I agree with the idea that college is overrated but israel is the problem and you being a condescending rich person doesn’t help.
@@slavyslav ...what's an aspiring trade worker? Is that like an aspiring garbage man? And, if you think Israel is the problem, then being uneducated and uninformed really is YOUR problem!
We've been saying it for years - more tradespeople, more thinkers, more city planners, more gardeners, more people who don't HAVE to work in a 60 hr / week job just to make ends meet. More people who don't start their adult life deep in debt making minimum wage. Someone like you Bill who has the ears of millions would do well to keep pounding this message. Colleges have become big business afraid of change, controversy and end up wrecking more minds than they freed.
Most people would love to do that. But how do you afford to raise a family in this world as a gardener? I would choose a simple life with a simple job if I could...
Yeah, because Will was a well-adjusted, precocious teen with great social aptitude. Great movie, but they didn't have to make intelligence and education a character flaw.
The sad thing is, years ago, Bill Maher literally ridiculed conservatives on his show for predicting what "a certain amount of foolishness" would eventually lead to. They figured that "in for a penny, in for a pound" would also apply to identity politics, intersectionality etc., but he, his liberal guests and the audience would have none of that nonsense. Today at least Bill Maher apears a little wiser.
@@glassjester Yeah, Hawley would have made more sense later in the anti-elite hypocrisy part when he was roasting Republicans who all graduated from ivy league colleges. Clunky transition there.
In my opinion, universities shut out professors and ideas they did not like. They filled it with administrators that work for the students because college became big business. So education became secondary. Religion and making money became primary.
The administrators also work for "corporate partners" and other major donors. All this at the expense of educating students and making them better people.
Religion? I don't think so. LOL You won't find much religion on most campuses. You are right that they shut out more conservative profs, after about the 80s. But there are plenty of Leftist radical profs that run the show, believe me. They have too much power because they are popular with students - gullible young people who like a rebel no matter how immoral and stupid he/she may be.
Its always nice to hear someone like Bill Marr tell it like it is so that you know its not just you that feels that way. In college, you arent allowed to disagree or even just to not feel as passionately about something as they do. Apparently youre just not even allowed to live your own life anymore. Fuck that college is low key useless ngl
Don’t let him fool ya Bill is also a product of the a**hole factories. Cornell is just as bad as Harvard as on full display past couple of weeks. Notice ALL the Harvard graduates he put up except Obama are conservatives. He won’t put a dem on his wall of shame, hypocrite
I took a PhD-class in French history at Texas Tech - admittedly one the lowest ranked universities in the country, but nevertheless. At the end of the class, the girl next to me, when asked to find Bretagne on the map - was trying to find it in Spain.
Agree. The free college for all 8:29 by Bernie Sanders is bs. Instead highschool should be four years of trades reading graduates for apprentices. It would eliminate young men not suited for college or not able to afford it to get good paying jobs. And eliminate bankruptcy from college debt. Where are Democrats on this. They would win with it.
@@firstlast8258 according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Additionally, demand has been greatly outpacing the supply in the United States, with no signs of slowing down. It's estimated that more than 3 million skilled trades jobs will remain open by 2028 Articles all over the internet. Maybe read a bit. You know put that amazing college degree to work.👍
I really was against Bill Maher for a few years, but he has shown how fair his thinking truly is and enough is enough. I will say…. I’m a fan again and appreciate his words of truth.
Thankfully, we had debating groups at university. Issues were discussed and we learned from each other. Now we have shouting societies where no one hears anything.
My favorite part of this is the audience sitting there short circuiting, not knowing what to do like Robby the Robot after he's been given an illegal command
He had a great first half (one of his best). Still, he contradicted himself by listing all the right-wing politicians and media influencers he hates, contradicting his original opinion that Ivy League colleges weren't that bad two generations ago. Conan O'Brien, John Lithgow, Matt Damon, and Natalie Portman are also Harvard graduates.
Indeed. He describes the reprehensible things the far left are doing, then praises Obama and says "all these Republicans are punchable" in order to placate his own predominantly left-wing audience.
Of course, this nonsense happens at subsidized institutions. People who actually produce, who add value, are busy creating, working, investing or running a business.
JUST SAY IT - IVY LEAGUE - . Bill - I think you are still a voice for the people. People need to hear other people say the thruth, and you do that. Keep speaking, it will eventually come out. We hear you, we do respect you.
My daughter is in nursing school. Four years at community college plus 1 year at a state college for a bachelor’s, all while working as a CNA in a nursing home to get some experience in the ground. She’ll be obscenely employable with virtually no debt. And she’s as well read and articulate as any liberal arts grad with a six figure debt they expect us to pay for. Here’s a thought. Don’t forgive college debt. Pay kids to go to nursing and trade schools.
@Thund3rstruk2 You're ridiculous. Those schools are the elite of the elite. They breed _privilege,_ not "progressivism," lol. If they were "progressive" they would do away with their legacy systems, which allowed the likes of Josh Hawley to coast in and complete his elite prep-school upbringing with a rich-boy ivy-league degree, paid for by his father with ties to Boatmen's Bancshares. Hawley was bred to be a conservative corporatist from the cradle to the Senate. You have no concept of what "progressive" means if you think the goal of those schools is to indoctrinate students with progressive beliefs.
For all the whacked out nonsense on the left, at least they didn’t try to overthrow democracy, undermine the peaceful transfer of power. He sees through that. TDS my ass
As a history major who is graduating in two weeks, I feel the need to rephrase an often repeated expression: Those who fail history force us all to relive it.
I went to college. I took computer science. Not much social justice in math. I do okay. There are things we need college educated people to do, like engineers and doctors. Could probably do with fewer lawyers though.
@@seveglider8406 Law is a self propagating profession, the more lawyers we have the more we need. Also I'm kinda joking about that. More lawyers don't increase the general public's legal knowledge, just makes it more confusing, so they need to hire more lawyers.
"college educated" could easily be "internet educated" if people have the discipline. All the info anyone needs is out there for free. The idea that we have to go to a physical place to be taught by only a handful humans is such an ancient idea. Even if you pay for premium online courses, it's tens of dollars instead of hundreds of thousands. Still trying to figure out why colleges still exist.
@@Cryptic808not if you want to be professional at disciplines like chemistry, physic, medicine or any other that require to work in laboratories and learn to know scientific methods and research.
College's are suppose to be areas where various beliefs are flowing. Exposed to various ideas and you yourself develop the critical thinking skills to decide what is right or wrong. Not someone telling you how to think.
College is supposed to be where your beliefs get challenged and in a big way. If you can't withstand Socratic method and having your reasoning questioned by someone more able, then you aren't prepared for college work.
Funny. I went to college in 09 and graduated in '15. I was a history major and dance minor. I didn't have any debt after graduation, but I can't say that I saw any "indoctrination" as has been posited and claimed by so many people as much as simple apathy and indifference. That is to say, the professors couldn't brainwash the students even if they wanted to, cause so often in my classes, the students didn't even GIVE A SHIT. In my polisci class, only the same 4-5 hands (including my own) went up (this was International Politics 200) whenever my professor would ask questions. And make no mistake, he made a point of actually asking the students THEIR opinion. Not his fault 90% couldn't be bothered to give a shit. I remember one of the students in my Astronomy class admitted she's just there to get a degree, nothing else. If Bill is saying they shouldn't go to colege. He's half-right. They shouldn't go if they're just gonna waste their time and money. But for those who had a goal and career in mind, it's invaluable. Also, the real problem is that colleges were always supposed to just make you a"more well-rounded human being", and that it's the American economy, corporations, and society that decided that colleges should become glorified trade schools, but without the actual skills to back it up. Maybe he should criticize the government, Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, and college loans for devaluing the education based on how much money people spend vs what they actually get out of it.
I did the basic education only decided to learn the cooking trade with a 3-year apprenticeship and attached Hotel school. Worked in 20 different countries and learned about different cultures, adaptation, flexibility and respect for each country and always behaved like a Guest! Now I'm close to 75 years and my home is in Bali. I had many amazing experiences on my journey and never regretted my decision (which I made at a very young age)in regard to the profession I chose! It seems most young people missing guts and want to play safe!
Best to take a holiday trip to Bali and look for yourself if it is was you looking for>Bali has so many faces places and location that suits certain people . Coastwise depends on what is your budget. You can find areas that are full of nightlife etc. Areas that are more relaxed, or further out quiet village life.@@RealityCollapseTheory
Thank you. I’m an old Jewish woman with most of my family in Israel. My grandparents are buried in kfar Blum next to the Jordan. My aunt and uncle established the kibbutz. Their children and their children’s children have worked and studied and played alongside of the Arab people since the 1940’s. I am heartbroken
My life would not have been as good without a college education. I went to a community college first, very excellent instruction, and then to a state college, also excellent. The best thing to get out of college, besides the degree which opens many many doors, is the ability to become a Critical Thinker and to learn how to learn anything. It also allows you to live in a community and engage with other students and teachers...helps you to grow as a person. I would recommend to anyone to get some kind of college education, community colleges are great and you can transfer your credits to a state college and finish your degree at a reasonably low cost...it is well worth it... by the way , I studied Engineering, so I have a high regard to those that can think analytically and solve problems...and have a high regard for the Scientific Method of evaluating evidence and observations.
"...The best thing to get out of college, besides the degree which opens many many doors, is the ability to become a Critical Thinker ...." That may have been commonly the case in the past. But it's the exact opposite of what the vast majority of students are experiencing today.
@@wpriddy NO...I think YOU are missing the point...I did not say that you can only learn how to think critically in college, but the truth is, that odds are, college is the best place to learn how to think critically. Many times parents, relatives, friends, etc.... are not the best teachers...I say that from experience.
@@livethemoment5148I agree with you 💯 percent. I went to a small Methodist College, then transferred to Harlaxton College in England. It was the best education and opened my mind. Then I came home and got my Vocational education and became a Scientist. Now I can travel the World and get a job anywhere. I feel I had the best of EVERY experience. I went to school to learn, not to party. I believe in all young people to do two years in the service. We need some discipline taught to these younger folks.
He highlights the stupidity of woke, “progressive” Ivy League students who support Hamas, then thinks he’s reinforcing his point by bashing a group of conservatives who support Israel and actually share Maher’s own views on the importance of free speech? Am I missing something here?
First he says that there is no freedom of ideas at elite schools, and then proceeds to recite a long list of individuals who graduated from elite schools who hold views diametrically opposed to those he claimed the schools reinforced.
Being paranoid just hurts YOU. When you deal with crooks all the time and you manage to come out as clean as Biden that is saying a lot. @@Propersciguy
My kid graduates from URI in late May despite him telling me for 4 years that its been bs. They try to indoctrinate & essentially train you to become a worker to do what we say you are, independent thought doesn't exist here. More grateful he's seen that than him graduating college. That's sad.
@@super8mate the best engineers, lawyers and financial folks never graduated. Elon Musk, Bill Gates Warren Buffet, Abe Lincoln…and the list is too long. College education teaches you to all think the same…with limitations. It teaches you to be an arrogant culture warrior, which is useless…and Ivy League schools are the worst. Ivy League schools teach you to exploit other people…sad.
Why is it everyone here seems to think the only important thing is to find a job that will make you a lot of money? If we all thought that this would be a very sterile world indeed. What would it be like with no poets, no writers, no artists, no musicians, no philosophers, no historians? What about people who have absolutely no interest in computer programming or business? Are we all useless people? My husband and I are classical musicians, our children are as well. We make half as much, maybe even a quarter as much as my brother and sister, both with their own businesses. But we have a nice life, when you have less, you need less. We make other people happy with our music...children, the elderly, the disabled. I love teaching children about beauty, the beauty in a melody that feeds your soul.. And I'll warrant we are happier than a lot of you guys chasing after business deals. " Money isn't everything" may be a worn out cliche' but it is very true. If I was stuck in am office or running a business I think I'd shoot myself. We are all different, maybe people who don't understand that and think trade schools are the answer for everyone would benefit from a little culture..
I work at a place near USC and have to sell stuff to their students. They are some of the dumbest kids ever, but they will go on to success because their parents were rich enough to send them there and their network of friends from USC will keep them employed in great jobs their whole life.
Aw, another pathetic man that needs to break people down to feel good about themselves. That is the whole point of this, "You don't need to go, you are better than everyone all on your own. Smarter in fact." It is a sad and pathetic charade that only works on the Dunning Kruger people of the world
It is amazing how most of the issues with the left are from privileged kids. You see them marching in protest for the poor while destroying poor neighborhoods with their $1000 phones out to record all the “ good “ they are doing.
"Elite schools should no longer be called elite. Just call them expensive." Keep speaking truth to power, Bill.
This whole video is full of strawman arguments. Easy to pick someone's argument apart when you willfully misunderstand it. Hamas are terrorists but so is Benjamin Netanyahu and his illegal seizing of land from innocent Palestinian citizens for "settlements".
I dunno; I’ve been to a small uni and an Ivy. Most at the small uni would not pass at the Ivy.
@@petermarshall7352 I think that's in the past
And bastions of opinionated liberal thought where undergrads believe only their voice matters and are opposed to contradicting viewpoints. They’re young nazis who grow to be the future leaders of the (democ)Rat party!
it's a special place where people who save money go to get robbed by people with trust fund interest.
_"Never let schooling interfere with your education"_ - Mark Twain.
How do you intend to use the million dollar research facilities that these schools have and which allow you to expand your knowledge?
The Maher staff who wrote this video's dialogue are stupid. They had this liberal yap about how a number of Republicans went to Yale...MANY YEARS AGO. Yale today is not what Yale was 30 years ago. DUH. And Maher is old enough to know this. But he refuses to know this because he wanted to attack Republicans. What a JERK he is.
@@ricomajestic Shhhhh! You're going to break this snowflakes bubble and she'll cry.
Says the person who didn't even have an AA.
Cause it is a rich persons collage and there all shelf intiled pricks😂
“Never confuse education with intelligence."
-- Richard Feynman
Indeed.
So true in the case of Bill Maher.
@kpaul4041
Is there something he said here that untrue, or unintelligent?
@@user-tz7vd9ri3r Yes, both untrue and unintelligent....I refer you to my previous comment for explanation.
As an immigrant from Italy with a 3rd grade education, my father was one of the smartest people I've known. He could build anything, fix anything, got a job in a rubber factory building tires, was promoted to job setter, was offered a supervisory job but hesitated simply because he couldn't write well in English. All this with a 3rd grade education! A college degree doesn't make one smarter, it just makes them officially smart.
Educated doesn't mean intelligent. You're born either smart or not. Genetics seems to play a sizable role, from my own observations.
@@Beefnhammer "Educated doesn't mean intelligent. You're born either smart or not. Genetics seems to play a sizable role, from my own observations." Yes, however. Intellect is great, but it's also very important to use whatever intellect you have to learn. It doesn't matter how "smart" you are. If you don't learn anything valuable. How are you going to function.
The real problem with America and places like it, isn't that people aren't smart. I mean that is a factor too, but a bigger problem is this. Forget Higher education. Education in general is pitiful here in the states. Getting an advanced education will help you not to get taken advantage of. I'll tell you one thing though. Thank Christ for the internet. I personally have learned so much just constantly reading and looking up things, and even just sitting back and watching videos.
Lastly, Just as important as Bill Maher here is actively trying to mislead people into not getting a higher education, and yes your going to learn bullshit that isn't true, but you're also going to learn valuable skills on various other subjects. For example: Things like math, calculus, algebra, English, and so many other things aren't as up for debate as history, and I agree that we need to keep history as factual as we can.
I just think saying "No" to collage isn't the smartest way to go about it.
Also when it comes to false information. There are so many ways to fact check now days ya know?
Sounds like my father, but he did go through high school. He could quote anything and anyone. He built our home and taught my brother and sister to do all the things he did. We all went to college, but we learned a lot from my father.
I could tell people how to become a multi-millionaire..... but nobody would ever listen anyway. Everyone wants their college. Your Dad had it right.
The principal benefit of a Harvard degree is never again having to be impressed by anyone with a Harvard degree. -Thomas Sowell.
Notice that he only knows that now because he went there.
And he uncovers the irony. Love Sowell!!
True!
Yes, I'm sure he'd be an accomplished conservative intellectual if he had gone to a community college.
Thomas Sowell foreseen all this nonsense. Sowell 2024!!
I am a college professor, and this is all so true. Universities cow-tow to hothouse-flower students. It's absolutely nauseating.
Scary. Can you not hold them to higher standards anyway or is that not tolerated because too many would fail?
kowtow
I, too, am a college teacher and I couldn't disagree more. SOME schools might do that, but let's not make it sound like an epidemic.
You are full of shit, truegrit. KOWTOW: I rest my case.
@@jeffreymcquillen1208 I majored in Environmental Science and at this point I think there are three serious conversations that need to happen regarding school/college in America.
1. The student debt that's out there has to be forgiven for most students. I can't even afford to even live on my own, even if I had a job in the field that math wouldn't change on that.
2. We need to look at why our high school system has fallen apart. I feel like a lot of high school's problems have been offshored to colleges. My gut tells me that a huge part of the problem is the sheer number of Americans living in poverty or experiencing financial hardship. I think shortening high school to three years, while at the same time making community college free is one solution.
3. If a job is going to require a college degree, the minimum wage said can pay is $25 an hour, full time time 32+ hours a week. Community College should be free for everyone, as they offer the first two years of a BS.
I spent six years at three universities and from the look of things my generation was the last to be graduated with an education not a mental illness.
My company president once said “there are 30% of us in this company that went to college and we can’t sell anything, fix anything, build anything and we don’t know our products intimately enough to help with the supply chain or negotiate delivery and prices.” He later went on to say “when we need to cut costs our first thoughts are cut employees at the bottom, charge employees more for their portion of healthcare and take away overtime, it’s never been the people with college degrees that have kept this company going.”
I would swap "don't go to college" with "don't go to an expensive college". So many jobs require a Bachelor's at minimum, but they don't really care where you went or what you majored in. They're usually much more interested in your work experience.
I would swap it with “only go to college for certain things and only at certain places”. College has become broad and only 15% of degree have real career paths and use.
Exactly. I have two IT degrees... perhaps 5% of what I learned applied to actual jobs I held over the last 30 years. Most college is nothing more than a business to make money and employ staff (like all other businesses).
Every graduating high school student should get a free 2 year enrollment into their choice of a community training school that teaches trades. If nothing else, to learn basic skills so people can fix things around their house. LOL
people go to expensive colleges, preferably Ivy league, for the networking and the reputation you can then show off in your job applications. obviously if all you do is go to college, no extra curricular activities that compound to your future job interests AND the degree itself isnt much of a qualification for a specific job, then you are in a bad spot. Especially if you have a lot of debt thanks to tuitions.
Thank you! I'm getting sick of all this rhetoric of shitting on people for going to college. As a first-gen college student, I went bc I had a career in mind and I knew I needed a degree to do it, and LEARN about it. I never learned what I needed to learn for my career in high school, hell, you don't learn much of anything in high school, unless you go to a career-tech one. The difference is, I went to a state college that was cheap and close to home, and a fraction of the cost of some dumb elite university. Same education, and still learned the skills I needed, NOT something you can just teach yourself from an Internet search, which many people seem to think you can do to become an expert in something
I agree but I’m sorry. I’m tired of college educated ppl telling others not to go to college. How is that any different than what they claim colleges are doing to students? They’re literally telling you what to think also. I’m personally big on education and I think it very important for those who want it. Definitely don’t need to go to an expensive college unless you have a full ride scholarship. Definitely go to community college first then a university if it’s cheaper. Not everyone has to go to college but telling kids that they shouldn’t is irresponsible especially when you can just teach them to be steadfast in their beliefs.
'In every disaster throughout American history, there always seems to be a man from Harvard in the middle of it.'
-Thomas Sowell
There's always a rich kid who doesn't study but uses his Harvard degree to get into high places of power and mess up the world.
...or a not-so-rich kid who is intelligent but was indoctrinated with a lot of wokeist shit that he/she plans to destroy the world.
My father is a blue collar worker and my mother is a home maker. My grandmama is a woman of God. They all support Palestine 🇵🇸.
All my family supports Palestinians.
We are Mexican Americans and we all know colonialism when we see it. And white supremacy.
@@MayaMaya-tj7kwI’m Jewish and half Mexican. I know antisemitism and ignorance when we see it.
❤🤣
I taught a masters level ethics class before I left academia, and students would approach me privately to share their peer-unapproved thoughts. Students know they will be shunned, and their peers can affect their longterm career prospects. The incentives aren't there for honest, open discussion.
But the problem goes all the way up to the tenured faculty having a hive mind and looking for reasons to reject tenure proposals from professors who don't fit in. And it starts early when new professors are still at the tenure-track level, where hiring decisions are decided primarily by faculty vote, further leading to the homogenization of 'academics.'
Lecturers and teaching professors are barely even acknowledged as existing and serve only to pick up the work loads of the tenured and tenure-track faculty. As they are particularly dependent on student evaluations of their teaching, rocking the boat is an even greater risk.
So however bad it is now, it's only getting worse.
So you didn't bother teaching them how to argue an unpopular idea? Shame on you.
@@katharinephipps1637 The shame is on those of you who leap to assumptions.
This was not a comprehensive list of everything I taught in that course nor of my efforts to stir open discourse--merely a bit of insight from someone who has been in a position to which few are privy.
You can use it to learn and grow or you can do as intractable small minds are apt to do: pretend you are in a position to wag your finger at someone for their supposed failure when you clearly lack the intellect for basic reading comprehension.
I'M sorry but I have to agree with A-Nonnie-Mouse on this one. I also taught, and still do, a master class but for foreign students and you are given a list of things/topics you are not allowed to discuss. @@katharinephipps1637
Cheers for the insight. What field are you in now?
@@HDracer At large book can and might have already been written on just this topic.
Man Bill, thank you so much! I see demonstrations of ignorant students shouting from the river to the sea and I guarantee you they can't find any of them on a map (Mediterranean Sea, Jordan River BTW). I have also been in Israel all my life and no one claims that it is a perfect country, far from it, but I studied at the university with Arab friends and voted with them on the same ballot, my child's kindergarten teacher is an Arab woman and my colleagues at work. Since the establishment of the state there have been Arab members of parliament and in the previous government an Arab party was in the government. It just doesn't happen in apartheid. This only happens in a democracy. Ignorance and lies are a real problem, they just feel they are supposed to shout their nonsense without realizing that it really affects other people's lives.
It's interesting here at UCSB. The pro-Palestinian crowd scheduled what they thought was going to be an all-campus walkout of class this week. Out of 25K -30K students only 200 participated so I think that this is really overblown in terms of what the participation really is on these campuses. I don't think it's not some big number.
@nogagazal9851 you seem like the type of ignorant person who doesn't know how Israel came to be and thinks everyone who disagrees with you is a PRO TERRORER! Imagine everyone who hates the Jews and denies the Holocaust and thinks Jews run the world under threat of space laser support Israel and you still come up with "If you say Free Palestine you're antisemitic!" Lulz
It's not about arab Israeli. It's about Palestinians, living in the West Bank. They can be murdered at will by the settlers, they can be arrested or killed at will by the army, spend months and years in prison without process. They can be dispossessed of their home on a whim if the settlers wants to steal it. They can't use the roads reserved to the settlers, they can be shot while working in their fields or travelling from their homes. And that happens every single day. That's apartheid and ethnic cleansing at the same time.
Of course, Maher never speak about them, as he has been dehumanizing Palestinians since forever, content to spread racism and untruth about their plight at every opportunity.
Exactly what they said about Americans who wanted civil rights and an end to segregation. A life long Bill Maher fan, but he is completely wrong, there are extremists anywhere but college makes one an informed voter, open to ideas, and a critical thinker and someone with a sense of history and the mistakes made over centuries.
@@mecha-sheep7674 I totally agree. Did you see Maher's show a couple of weeks ago, when he went on a rant about how morally superior Israelis are to Palestinians? 🤨 Anybody who doesn't agree with him on this issue, he attacks aggressively. Talk about cancel culture‼️🙄 he wants to cancel certain ppl by permanently eliminating them😐 And I also think this "Don't Go to College" thing he's spewing, is related to this same issue, as well. Mainly bcz most of the ppl here in the US, who were actively protesting what the Israeli Government is doing, are an overwhelming amount of Jewish Scholars, and Rabbis.
Maher is the one trying to indoctrinate ppl, NOT Colleges. And he's always bitching on his show, about 'Cancel Culture", while he wants to cancel "certain" ppl in the most extreme and inhumane manner.🫤
“You can always tell a Harvard grad, but you cannot tell them anything…”
no need ... they tell you within 5 seconds of meeting them
False. My buddy graduated from Harvard and he is very open minded. You might as well say "all white folks are racists and all blacks are thugs." Neither is true. Do not judge an entire group with the most loudest among them.
@@willpower-rc1wq How many of them have you met? I've met ONE my entire life.
4 all idiots and book dummies bragging about how they went to harvard and trying to prove how they were smarter than everyone else ... seen hundreds on tv though and they always manage to do the complete opposite of common sense and eff things up for the world @@bryanmachin3738
In German we say: Handicraft has golden soil. My recommendation to all young people in the world. Learn a craft, then you can always go on to a second education in another field. If that doesn't work out, you always have a reassurance in your first education. Craftsmen like carpenters, plumbers, electricians etc. are always needed.
Yeah but college is Germany is free. It’s harder to go to school later in life because the costs are prohibitive. In American society at least.
I think you should learn as much as possible in every field of study!
This 1000% I have a bachelor's in communications yet have made more money than most of my peers working a trade and getting good at it over the last 12 years
@@briansounalath It's free for those who can qualify to get in.
@@briansounalath you don't need to be qualified in usa, just throw enough money at it and afterwards complain that others should pay your debts.
The problem is that the majority of jobs require a college degree, which in many cases is ridiculous.
No, sales jobs or trade jobs dont
Yes, but the different between normal college and the "elite" university is the connection to all the jobs and firm you will get.
However, that changes now since many "elite" universities with many billionaires, CEO and firm will have second thought now.
@@Joshpower57 You’re right. I had said the majority, not all. But there are a lot of jobs that shouldn’t require a degree but do.
That is because those that hire have degrees , gotta pay your dues if you want to join the club 😉
A lot of people do not use the degree they earned, but the degree itself is kind of a pass the gate keepers like to see.
I got a BA back in the 80s and that was friggin hard. I actually had to study and work my butt off to get that degree. Sleepless nights, fingers worn raw from taking notes (see kids, there used to be these things called 'pen and paper' and they were essential to college life). People flunked out all of the time, and the attitude in the college was 'don't want to work? don't let the door hit you in the ass'.
I went back for my Masters in 2015 and I couldn't believe how it had changed. Nobody worked, no professor challenged anyone's ideas or introduced ideas that weren't 'coddled child friendly'. People in grad school who didn't know the difference between their, there and they're. Teachers who didn't care that they didn't know, and never marked off for basic mistakes these students should have learned in 7th grade. It was nothing but a diploma mill. None of those kids were learning anything. It was really quite sad.
I graduated in 1987. I thought to take a few years off and work, then get my MBA at night. Then I saw the quality if students colleges were turning out just a few years later. I supervised graduates that couldn't solve simple business problems, but were getting straight A's in graduate school. Decided it wasn't worth going back for an advanced degree.
I got my masters in 2012. I never really used it. I am still not sure today if going to college was worth it at all for me.
@@user-ok6ht5bk3e I dont really use either of my degrees for my actual job, but I do get paid more for having them so it was worth it for me but I get your point
I’m a retired RN and my training was essential to caring for patients but in 1983 started out $8.65/hr and would be maxed out at $17. But at Christmas we were given $600 bonus (LPN $300). Then INTEGRIS bought out the hospital and it was a nightmare going to corporate greed control. Christmas bonuses then went to a $25 gift certificate to the hospital gift shop where a candy bar was doubled the price at the grocery store. They picked on & tried to fire the experienced nurses to avoid them being there 10 years to qualify for pension. They stopped rolling over time off into the “bank” for use at a later date but would refuse time off saying we were a specialty unit and couldn’t be filled with agency nurses. They teamed with OK Unemployment to refuse benefits. Corporate hand in hand with political corruption. At our orientation at the buyout the woman demanded no tolerance for missed days of work. At the end when she asked if any questions an employee asked what about calling in if we’d died. He was grinning and she puffed up, turned red face and hatefully said “Then you BETTER have someone call in for you!” All of us looked shocked at each other, sadly hit with the stark reality that this brand of healthcare was NOT a good thing. Needless to say I worked sick many days.
@@user-yy4jo9pk2b Yikes!
I needed my master's degree (from a private college) to practice in my field. But every time I hire a plumber, roofer or electrician, they all are earning way more per hour than I am.
That's because these colleges focus way too much on theory and abstract crap rather than real applications. I mean...my own opinion is this. Most college students are just lazy, and college administrators know it. Students would rather get an easy degree in philosophy or psychology or something like that, rather than study something really hard like biology or chemistry or physics, or some other area of study where a real brain is required and you have to study like 12 hours a day just to pass! It's really shameful what's going on in these schools. The teachers suck. They are very lazy. They teach stuff that students won't use in the real world. Most math majors for example should be able to pass the first two or three actuarial examinations after getting their math degree, but that's usually not the case! Why not? Because colleges don't care! They don't prepare math students for the actuarial examinations BUT THEY SHOULD. Most computer science majors know the merge sort algorithm really well, but can't figure out how to design a website from scratch! That is just shameful! And these days if you go to a college you're going to drown in all the DIE crap. (Diversity, Inclusion and Equity)
If you dare to speak out against it, you'll probably get censored and have to leave the college. It's a damn joke. It really is. And in the long run it's going to send a lot of potential students away. They will either join the military or go to a trade school or something like that, but I predict that if things don't change, then we're going to see colleges and universities in America with RECORD LOW STUDENT ENROLLMENTS within the next couple of decades. It's going to get bad, and I predict that eventually some of the smaller colleges and universities will just close their doors and fold. And that's because they really don't care about learning and teaching. All they care about is sucking money from the students so that the administrators can get their six-figure salaries. Totally shameful that this is going on in what is supposedly the greatest country in the world.
Try being a plumber once your back starts hurting.
The necessary education for a plumber or electrician is surely much higher than nearly all degree requirement jobs… They just learn on the job. You should switch careers, it’ll only take 15 to 20 years for you to become a master electrician… That’s if you study hard…
Man comes home from work, his wife tells him the plumber was there for 15 minutes, the bill is $300.
Man calls plumber, tells him that's ridiculous and says "That equals $1200 an Hour! I'm a lawyer and I only charge $400 an hour".
Plumber says: "Yeah that's what I used to charge too when I was lawyer".
did you figure where you screwed up?
When I went to college in the 80s, it was actually affordable. You got value out of the degree because you were not in debt for years afterwards. I could see possibly attending for a highly specialized field, such as medicine, engineering or law, but outside of those professions, the cost benefit is no longer a wise decision. Stanford, as an example is about $80k per year if you live on campus and eat in the cafeteria. Even state schools are $15k and up. My daughter, when asked about college, did not see going for the cost involved, which made a lot of sense to me. She is preparing for a career in a very affordable profession that is usable in the real world.
That's awesome. Plenty of super high earners don't have degrees. I know tons of union skilled tradesmen. All making $150,000-ish a year. Now I'm sure someone will comment how that's not much. Uh huh. Almost no one in this country makes that much. 5%? 7%? If that.
Highest earners i know went to trade school for 2 years and started early working there way up in the buisness. By 30 they were pretty well set in life.
Thanks to expensive, no-value administrators for devaluing college to the point where you're better off not going
@@trailertrish2587 don't forget the colleges themselves offering no-value degrees as well just to get kids to sign on for something that sounds cool but is totally worthless in the real world- like gender studies, art history or liberal arts degrees. Those degrees are only good for getting low paying teaching jobs in those fields.
Then you have the fact that some places have black listed certain colleges from their applications. They know if they hire someone who got their degree from College X, they'll need to spend more time training that person to do the job they are supposed to know how to do right out of school than they would from College Y or a trade school.
Heck one can argue or question the value of going to college for medicine, engineering, or law. You have to take a bunch of extra gen ed courses and other questionable classes that cost a bunch of money and like you wrote you have to pay for the on campus housing and meal plans.
Heck even if you go for those things you mentioned you'll still probably have to end up learning a bunch of different things on the job site or in the work force that the school didn't prepare you for.
I know someone who went to school for respiratory therapy and there was a bunch of extra stuff they had to learn up learning and adapting to working at the hospital that the college either didn't prepare them for they didn't focus on it enough.
Never more embarrassed to call myself a liberal than the past couple of months. Never felt so old than this new generation chanting 'to the river to the sea'
So true Electrical Engineer a STEM nerd
Those people aren't real liberals.
Nailed it again! A “college education” Is not what it used to be.
As an ivy league graduate, Bill called out nonsense that is ALL progressive nonsense, good! But then he gives names of ALL conservatives as examples.
Exactly.
I was about to make that exact point.
He can’t help himself, he has to play to his audience of progressives. His monologue is a total contradiction of itself.
Well, all republicans anyway. At the same time giving a glowing review of one of the architects of today's "I hate everything about America" movements: Barack Obama.
It's his right as a comedian to work his audience and cherry pick facts. Yea, so much for an impartial monologue.
He's not saying don't go to college. He's saying don't go to a college that indoctrinates you without educating you.
So all of them
So it's ok to be indoctrinated, as long as you get an education, too?
I think he's saying don't go to a college that indoctrinates you in any way. That's not the purpose of higher education anyways. It's literally to get a higher, more specialized education before entering the work force. Not to be brainwashed.
But his argument works against.........his own argument.
Sorry for you if you think Maher has got charisma.@@dianes.6814
This is brilliant. Thank you. Scary how little room there is for nuance or the free exchange of ideas on college campuses.
Nothing is free
I think you need to go back and learn how to use the "Nothing is Free" phrase. @@firstlast8258
@@firstlast8258 and greedy fuks aint gonna get checked if we all act like you
The world envisioned in Fahrenheit 451 is happening right now. It is much earlier than what I expected
Literally heard a masters student say they were surprised we learned about Freud and his theories based on how exclusionary they were for the queer community and people of color. This is in a social work class where understanding psychodynamic approaches is important and it’s helpful to learn about a pivotal figures in their development. Just because you don’t agree with someone’s opinions - especially a historical figure - or how they conducted themselves personally does not mean their work should be negated or that their entire character was this way. (For the most part. As always there are exceptions to the rule.) and, in any case, we shouldn’t ban topics or people to learn about. Knowing history is important so it’s not repeated or, selfishly, so you’re not horribly uniformed/misinformed.
While you may disagree with a historical figures beliefs or ideas, it is always important to learn about them so you don’t repeat them, something that is somehow being forgotten in younger generations.
Please, using the word ‘literally’ is unnecessary, almost all of the time. It IDs you as a naive zoomer.
Freud was 10x smarter than all of his detractors put together
The advice here should be don't overpay for your education, because just graduating from a decent school is good enough to open up opportunities. The rest of your success is up to how well you work in the real world.
EDIT: Yes, it's obvious that the chosen degree and career path matter too. I thought that was completely obvious and didn't need mentioning, but everyone really wants to argue in this comment section.
It's not just the education - you can educate yourself if you're motivated. It's the connections. Those are invaluable.
That's outdated advice. Only go if you are getting a degree in an in demand field. Also don't overpay as you said.
@@chrisbentsen1 Your advice is more outdated. Thanks for the attempted correction. It was really necessary.
@@MrGriff305 your leading people astray with that Boomer " open doors " nonsense. If you have a fluff degree all the doors will remain shut. If you have obtained in demand marketable skills you will be receiving multiple offers.
The degree does not make the person. It is what the person does with the degree and work ethic that matters.
Did he really say in the same breath that Josh Hawley is a "Box checking brown-noser" while Barack Obama is not????? Seriously?
I’m a small business owner…it’s a technical service we provide….I will not be hiring any “university” students as they will most certainly not mesh with the culture I’ve started…I will be hiring trade’s people with some technical background and will train them myself to ensure they can do the job….I can teach people stuff…but if you have a mind virus…I have no cure.
A community college can give you the same education for thousands of dollars per year less. Community colleges are the way to go.
The good old days of college when a student went to school for the right reasons like finding customers to sell weed, like Bill did.
Bill says he sold weed, but he was really just going to gay bars.
That must be why he smacks his lips between words when there is a gay man next to him. Like last week.@@bartmix8994
Bill Maher is a Boomer of the highest order. He cherry picks & paints with a broad brush. He also tends to ignore the youth of America's past and that the state of the US is what boomers manifested.😂
@@bartmix8994 you do realize that you give off the vibe of the dumb demented douce HS bully from every 80's movie
As though a useless stoner like Bill would have ever made it anywhere had he not gone to college.
Maher saying all those Republicans have punchable faces even though they all agree on this issue.
He had to do that to avoid losing his fan base.
None of the Republicans he listed support the woke nonsense that Bill spend the first 6 minutes ranting about, none of them support Hamas, gender ideology, safe spaces, etc.
@@ralphdise4748 because he's gutless.
I found it very interesting that he was very quick to throw the republican names in there, when it is actually the liberal Democrats who are supporting HAMAS and calling for segregation and protesting.
Yeah. Weird. Not lol
Thank you Bill Maher for telling the truth!
You'll never see stupidity of this caliber in trade schools.
“College life today is a day spa combined with a North Korean reeducation camp. It’s a day care center with a meal plan.” - so on point here.
Indeed
Yes, and of course Bill then transitions to criticizing the people who managed to escape the reeducation camp without being brainwashed by it.
When he likened it to the Wuhan wet market, that didn't work because covid didn't come from the market, it came from the lab.
You left out John Fetterman, Bill.... He got a free ride at Harvard from rich mommy and daddy Fetterbucks.
I wonder if he was intentionally left out. Fetterman is nuttier than a payday.
Fetterman is a Democrat. Somehow Democrats were left off of the list of names he mentioned.
LIES
If you go to college, go to a community college if you are trying to find a career or a trade school.
This has aged well.
My brother runs a large company. He literally does not hire college grads with exception of the ones which require specific skills, such as the accountants. He’s told me the employees who do not have college degrees seem to be sharper and better employees. His belief is that those without college degrees feel the need to prove themselves. Those with college degrees don’t feel as compelled to have to prove themselves and so often do not, particularly those from the “Ivy League” schools. He prefers hires from state colleges and junior colleges.
If I was hiring custodians, I wouldn't want degrees either.
@@wreckim Who’s hiring custodians?
@@wreckim College degrees are necessary for certain jobs. Many jobs and careers just require the degree to get you in the door, and your taught the specific skills by the company.
@@wreckim First, they're called janitors. Stop using Marxist language. And second, when did the original poster say anything about hiring janitors?
@@davidmeadows5627 You can call folks that clean and lock up whatever you want. You can hire IT people with no degree as well. Duh. The simple math tells you that if you have a degree, a bonafide 4-year degree from an accredited univ., you will earn much more than those that don't. Maher has been harping on the worthlessness of degrees for decades now...and it's true many degrees appear to offer nothing for the money. I don't believe that is completely true, even with art degrees or poli sci degrees etc...there are many benefits to finishing what you start. And that's part of what a degree proves. You are incredibly unlikely to end up asking people 'paper or plastic' with a college degree, it basically sets a floor, and during those years you might find that something else is in you, some hidden or latent talent. I do not know of an unsuccessful college graduate...a truly worthless soul that is lost with one. I do know many of my old HS friends, that are living through hell, and yes, some that didn't graduate from anything that are living a good life, and one is a millionaire. That's not a recipe for success, it's luck.
“If ignorance is a disease, Harvard Yard is the Wuhan wet market.” 🤣
And the upshot is the virus didn't come out of the wet market.
Wait. Is he implying that Covid came from Chyna?
@@hjung5579of course it did wake up
As a plumber I urge everyone to go to college, get a degree in whatever I don’t care and never learn anything useful let alone a trade.
Become a streamer, influencer, instagram model or whatever.
Because soon a massive swoop of trade masters will retire which will make us construction workers, handymen and technicians even more valuable.
Then people can either pay me my $500 an hour or drown in their shit lol
It is easy for Bill Maher to tell kids not to go to college. He is one of the most privileged people in this country. But for those kids less privileged a college education is a way out of poverty. They don’t have to go to the most expensive school to get a college degree. Plenty of good state and city schools.
The best education I got was at my local community college. I went to a major university after that, and the quality of education was abysmal. Professors didn't give two craps about undergrads, and besides my calculus classes, everything was really easy.
Yep, I went to a public ivy after community college and it was the easiest school I went to
That is your personal experience and others will disagree with you. But at your local community college you have a much smaller population of students so teachers have more time for students. At the major university where you have population sizes up to 10 times more you have to understand the teachers do not have the same time to give each student.
My experience was just the opposite. Community college was anonymous but cheap which was so important to me. Transfer to a university was shocking. I went on academic probation, had to learn to study for the first time, had to repeat some courses I had taken at the previous school and the ones they did accept did not really prepare me for the next ones in sequence at the new school requiring lots of time learning what I should have known when I transferred. Community college was just a continuation of high school for me.
@@HLJeter1966 Sure but a private university also has more money and they pay their teachers larger salaries, they should be able to have better teachers and more of them.
How were the paintball tournaments?
I used to be upset because I didn't get accepted into any Ivy League schools; now I'm relieved! I attended a small school with a healthy student to faculty ratio where I could chat with faculty over coffee and nurture my intellectual development.
Same.
Bill dear, bears don’t eat humans.
Bears eat berries and salmon…and other fish they catch.
Princeton is more than good other IVY schools
AniJan....🇦🇲, My Sister in Ararat Motherland ,
I live on the campus of an ivy league university.
The library is easy to walk into and you'll get much further by learning the most about what you are interested in and good at doing.
Love,LD ⚓
My father is a blue collar worker and my mother is a home maker. My grandmama is a woman of God. They all support Palestine 🇵🇸.
All my family supports Palestinians.
We are Mexican Americans and we all know colonialism when we see it. And white supremacy.
It's about time Bill Maher figured this out. I knew it 30 years ago.
Maybe your school, but at mine we protested, and engsgedxin non-violent actions to bring awareness to global warming, deforestation, acid rain, and CFCs. We understood the science and we're willing to be arrested because of the importance of these issues. But bacl then Starbucks and Chipotle werent part of the meal plan and your dorm was a small cinderblock room with bunkbeds, not the luxury apartments you find today. Students these days want to be part of something if they dont have to do anything that separates them from their phone.
Awesome stuff Bill- keep it up! Love your show.
“The principal benefit of a Harvard degree is never again having to be impressed by anyone with a Harvard degree.”
-Thomas Sowell.
cant imagine how painful life must have been for him at harvard in 1940s
@@siamcharm7904 He got an education not protesting for terrorist groups.
I love hearing Sowell say that line.
@@siamcharm79041950s
damn, never heard that quote before but that is money. Perhaps you could take the word Harvard out and it would equally applicable.
"The whole point of a college degree is to show a potential employer you went somewhere four years straight and completed a series of tasks reasonably well and on time. When they see that, they know there's a semi-decent chance you'll show up every day and not fuck their business up."
-Tulsa King
Nope. The point of going to college is to get an education, to become more knowledgeable, to learn about the world, to learn how to think carefully. Job training is job training. It is not education.
@@ouagadougou4672 Sure, but some people can also do that without going to college. In Tulsa King, Sly was specifically talking about how the degree itself shows you're "trainable." Hope I explained that right.
Sort of correct someone who sticks to a half baked education and finishes it says something about that person work ethic. Those who disagreed don't or haven't hired anyone in their life.
@@michaelwalters3970it depends. I hired men in construction for over forty years and never went to college. And I know many that did also. Try your thinking somewhere else 😂😂
And your mode of thinking is any better funny because all I was saying is how some employers look at education. I hire also and never demanded a degree but knowing some sticks to something does say a lot about their character. Do you hire someone who rarely makes it past a year and has had a dozen jobs in 10 years? I surely don't your logic is flawed.@@3fsw3
As a Liberal and fellow 60 something I couldn't agree with Bill more. Part of the reason we lose elections is that our crazies make the other sides crazies seem sane by comparison.
Bill Maher is on another level of comedy
Had me in the first half, but that second half "heel turn" was truly something.
Tells you a lot about his *real beliefs...
BILL IS RIGHT ON. SICK OF THE FREAK WOKES AND THE REST.
A key part of going to a competitive school is/was meeting people of different backgrounds and debating ideas, hearing different view points, arguing (civilly) with people, etc. etc. If people are afraid of stating their opinions, then really what's the point of going to college? It's sad to think there's less free speech in colleges now than 20 years ago. Political correctness and cancel culture is also part of the problem, we need to get over it. And yeah, don't let the students run the schools.
I even see this with my brother and his wife. They're nice, very smart young people but are immovable when it comes to some issues and won't even engage no matter how calmly and rationally we try to explain our points of view. They just chalk up different opinions that I and my mom have to the fact that we're older and not so enlightened. It drives me a bit nuts.
Odd, I didn't learn anything from the other students through debate, but rather in the classroom from my professor and through self study. Seems like the people that think they know the most about the college experience, show they never even went. You start by saying the students should be "debating", unless you think you should be debating the professor on the subject matter, and then say "And yeah, don't let the students run the schools". You clearly have cognitive dissonance issues here.
@@christopherallen9476You just agreed with him. He said students were no longer learning through debate. 😂
How much did that self study cost you?
@@FrancisGo. You nailed me troll. Another person that thinks you debate the classroom material being presented by the professor. And yeah, there is self study that goes along with lectures. Are you really this dense?
@@christopherallen9476 what year did you get your degree?
that delayed clap hahah
It's looking like college degrees are no more than participation trophies
I just quit my job as an English professor because of this (plus AI papers). I'm too white and not liberal enough and encouraged too much critical thinking.
Bill thinks he is somehow different from other Ivy League graduates. 😂
strue
Ya, it is somewhat amusing.
Because of what he believes, HE IS! Cornell was a bit different back in 1978... only a bit. Now it's a definitely an "asshole factory."
Real. As an aspiring trade worker I agree with the idea that college is overrated but israel is the problem and you being a condescending rich person doesn’t help.
@@slavyslav ...what's an aspiring trade worker? Is that like an aspiring garbage man? And, if you think Israel is the problem, then being uneducated and uninformed really is YOUR problem!
We've been saying it for years - more tradespeople, more thinkers, more city planners, more gardeners, more people who don't HAVE to work in a 60 hr / week job just to make ends meet. More people who don't start their adult life deep in debt making minimum wage. Someone like you Bill who has the ears of millions would do well to keep pounding this message. Colleges have become big business afraid of change, controversy and end up wrecking more minds than they freed.
Most people would love to do that. But how do you afford to raise a family in this world as a gardener? I would choose a simple life with a simple job if I could...
Bill, I've been following your slow-motion maturation from lefty liberalism to thoughtful conservatism. You go, man! Keep it up!
“thoughtful conservatism” is an oxymoron
“You dropped 150 grand on a degree where you could have learned the same things by paying $1.50 in late fines at the local ibrary.” - Will Hunting
Yeah, because Will was a well-adjusted, precocious teen with great social aptitude. Great movie, but they didn't have to make intelligence and education a character flaw.
or for free on the internet... It's a disgrace that college tuition isn't LOWER today than 20 years ago.
The sad thing is, years ago, Bill Maher literally ridiculed conservatives on his show for predicting what "a certain amount of foolishness" would eventually lead to. They figured that "in for a penny, in for a pound" would also apply to identity politics, intersectionality etc., but he, his liberal guests and the audience would have none of that nonsense. Today at least Bill Maher apears a little wiser.
Why's he making fun of Josh Hawley when literally everything else he said before that, Josh Hawley would agree with - and probably has said first?
@@glassjester Yeah, Hawley would have made more sense later in the anti-elite hypocrisy part when he was roasting Republicans who all graduated from ivy league colleges. Clunky transition there.
He still had to try and pull it back to republicans in this rant instead solely focusing on the cesspool the left has created.
No, he's just come to agree with conservatives. These arguments, if that's what they can be called, were literally made by Reagan proxies in the 80s.
@@glassjester
Wanted to like your comment a whole lot more.
"Graddy issues" man this is the best title ever 😂😂😂
So glad we have Bill Maher - we need his voice of reason now more than ever.
In my opinion, universities shut out professors and ideas they did not like. They filled it with administrators that work for the students because college became big business. So education became secondary. Religion and making money became primary.
This is exactly what the author states in the book. The Coddling of the American Mind. Great point you made.
Universities were founded by Catholics, so…
The administrators also work for "corporate partners" and other major donors. All this at the expense of educating students and making them better people.
Religion? I don't think so. LOL You won't find much religion on most campuses. You are right that they shut out more conservative profs, after about the 80s. But there are plenty of Leftist radical profs that run the show, believe me. They have too much power because they are popular with students - gullible young people who like a rebel no matter how immoral and stupid he/she may be.
this is why I continue to come back to Bill
Don’t go to college, you may learn something the media didn’t want you to know
Its always nice to hear someone like Bill Marr tell it like it is so that you know its not just you that feels that way. In college, you arent allowed to disagree or even just to not feel as passionately about something as they do. Apparently youre just not even allowed to live your own life anymore. Fuck that college is low key useless ngl
Don’t let him fool ya Bill is also a product of the a**hole factories.
Cornell is just as bad as Harvard as on full display past couple of weeks. Notice ALL the Harvard graduates he put up except Obama are conservatives. He won’t put a dem on his wall of shame, hypocrite
I took a PhD-class in French history at Texas Tech - admittedly one the lowest ranked universities in the country, but nevertheless. At the end of the class, the girl next to me, when asked to find Bretagne on the map - was trying to find it in Spain.
Ya look at what class you're in XD. Come check out lyles college of engineering. Smart people dont take classes like French history for a PHD
Marriage material.
imma guess spain isn't france?
Excuse me?
Gawd bless Texass
It's a shame that no one really promotes the trades anymore.
Agree. The free college for all 8:29 by Bernie Sanders is bs. Instead highschool should be four years of trades reading graduates for apprentices. It would eliminate young men not suited for college or not able to afford it to get good paying jobs. And eliminate bankruptcy from college debt. Where are Democrats on this. They would win with it.
Indeed! Supposedly over 3 million job openings by 2028. A lot of the old timers are retiring.👍
@@thesimulations8900 the numbers don’t lie but liars use numbers
Speak for yourself
@@firstlast8258 according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Additionally, demand has been greatly outpacing the supply in the United States, with no signs of slowing down. It's estimated that more than 3 million skilled trades jobs will remain open by 2028
Articles all over the internet. Maybe read a bit. You know put that amazing college degree to work.👍
I really was against Bill Maher for a few years, but he has shown how fair his thinking truly is and enough is enough. I will say…. I’m a fan again and appreciate his words of truth.
LMFAO he’s terrible now. He’s literally become a right wing grifter
Thankfully, we had debating groups at university. Issues were discussed and we learned from each other. Now we have shouting societies where no one hears anything.
I'm glad the writers are back
My favorite part of this is the audience sitting there short circuiting, not knowing what to do like Robby the Robot after he's been given an illegal command
Ayyy shout out Chico State! Go wildcats! Lmao
He had a great first half (one of his best). Still, he contradicted himself by listing all the right-wing politicians and media influencers he hates, contradicting his original opinion that Ivy League colleges weren't that bad two generations ago. Conan O'Brien, John Lithgow, Matt Damon, and Natalie Portman are also Harvard graduates.
He took his oath of hypocrisy seriously. He couldn’t even control himself. His eyes rollback and he spews hate and bullshit. Dude sucks.
Indeed. He describes the reprehensible things the far left are doing, then praises Obama and says "all these Republicans are punchable" in order to placate his own predominantly left-wing audience.
So what
Havard stinks
Things can go sour in short order. They could clean house , enact rules and fix it shortly too. For now. It’s a defunct organization
I couldn't agree more. Did he even mention the Unibomber?
He gives out an amazing half of a monologue… Then goes straight back to RDS mode.
What's rds?
@@rajshah5022 Try guessing.
@@SomeBlankBullets Robert Downey Smith
@@rajshah5022 Try again… If you are going to fail more than 5 times I’m going to assume you have RDS as well.
@@SomeBlankBullets no need. I'll ask your mom tonight when I see her.
Of course, this nonsense happens at subsidized institutions. People who actually produce, who add value, are busy creating, working, investing or running a business.
JUST SAY IT - IVY LEAGUE - . Bill - I think you are still a voice for the people. People need to hear other people say the thruth, and you do that. Keep speaking, it will eventually come out. We hear you, we do respect you.
My daughter is in nursing school. Four years at community college plus 1 year at a state college for a bachelor’s, all while working as a CNA in a nursing home to get some experience in the ground. She’ll be obscenely employable with virtually no debt. And she’s as well read and articulate as any liberal arts grad with a six figure debt they expect us to pay for.
Here’s a thought. Don’t forgive college debt. Pay kids to go to nursing and trade schools.
The bigger problem is the debt we forgive when Investments firms and banks create a mess. We privatize the gains and socialize the losses!
There are more people who want to go to nursing school than nursing spots available. Need to solve that first..
There are a lot of educated kids who are still not working and living with their parents. Lazy.
Don't forgive the debt?? Uh...whhat?!
Just know that many of those liberal arts grads write the jokes you enjoy. It's a weird irony.
Josh Hawley getting through Stanford and Yale with his beliefs intact is actually pretty impressive..
@@maxpassion4550 It's not. At all. Bill just had to find a way to insult Republicans. Those schools are wildly progressive.
Wasn’t Like that when he Went !This was Pre TDS !
@Thund3rstruk2 You're ridiculous. Those schools are the elite of the elite. They breed _privilege,_ not "progressivism," lol. If they were "progressive" they would do away with their legacy systems, which allowed the likes of Josh Hawley to coast in and complete his elite prep-school upbringing with a rich-boy ivy-league degree, paid for by his father with ties to Boatmen's Bancshares. Hawley was bred to be a conservative corporatist from the cradle to the Senate.
You have no concept of what "progressive" means if you think the goal of those schools is to indoctrinate students with progressive beliefs.
I love Josh Hawley.
For all the whacked out nonsense on the left, at least they didn’t try to overthrow democracy, undermine the peaceful transfer of power. He sees through that. TDS my ass
what we learnt was:
- they forgot to ask if Palestine has the right to exist
- In America you can criticise God, but you cannot criticise Israel.
As a history major who is graduating in two weeks, I feel the need to rephrase an often repeated expression:
Those who fail history force us all to relive it.
I went to college. I took computer science. Not much social justice in math. I do okay. There are things we need college educated people to do, like engineers and doctors. Could probably do with fewer lawyers though.
Fewer Attorneys? Have to disagree with You. We need more people to know the Law because we have too many people who are ignorant of the law!
@@seveglider8406 Law is a self propagating profession, the more lawyers we have the more we need. Also I'm kinda joking about that. More lawyers don't increase the general public's legal knowledge, just makes it more confusing, so they need to hire more lawyers.
Math is racist..didn’t you know that ? 😂😂😂
"college educated" could easily be "internet educated" if people have the discipline. All the info anyone needs is out there for free. The idea that we have to go to a physical place to be taught by only a handful humans is such an ancient idea. Even if you pay for premium online courses, it's tens of dollars instead of hundreds of thousands. Still trying to figure out why colleges still exist.
@@Cryptic808not if you want to be professional at disciplines like chemistry, physic, medicine or any other that require to work in laboratories and learn to know scientific methods and research.
I've known 3 guys who went to Harvard... and they made sure I knew they went to Harvard within the first 3 minutes of knowing them.
drooling, mumbling, and out of control flatulence is an instant giveaway of a Harvard grad
When he put Hawley and Obama on screen and started the scathing description, I wasn't sure which he was talking about.
They didn't bother reading their loan agreements either.
Higher education abandoned the education part when they became a business, with the goal of making money.
College's are suppose to be areas where various beliefs are flowing. Exposed to various ideas and you yourself develop the critical thinking skills to decide what is right or wrong. Not someone telling you how to think.
Exactly.
College is supposed to be where your beliefs get challenged and in a big way. If you can't withstand Socratic method and having your reasoning questioned by someone more able, then you aren't prepared for college work.
You hear that doctors? Don’t go to college!
Funny. I went to college in 09 and graduated in '15. I was a history major and dance minor. I didn't have any debt after graduation, but I can't say that I saw any "indoctrination" as has been posited and claimed by so many people as much as simple apathy and indifference.
That is to say, the professors couldn't brainwash the students even if they wanted to, cause so often in my classes, the students didn't even GIVE A SHIT. In my polisci class, only the same 4-5 hands (including my own) went up (this was International Politics 200) whenever my professor would ask questions. And make no mistake, he made a point of actually asking the students THEIR opinion.
Not his fault 90% couldn't be bothered to give a shit. I remember one of the students in my Astronomy class admitted she's just there to get a degree, nothing else. If Bill is saying they shouldn't go to colege. He's half-right. They shouldn't go if they're just gonna waste their time and money. But for those who had a goal and career in mind, it's invaluable.
Also, the real problem is that colleges were always supposed to just make you a"more well-rounded human being", and that it's the American economy, corporations, and society that decided that colleges should become glorified trade schools, but without the actual skills to back it up.
Maybe he should criticize the government, Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, and college loans for devaluing the education based on how much money people spend vs what they actually get out of it.
I did the basic education only decided to learn the cooking trade with a 3-year apprenticeship and attached Hotel school. Worked in 20 different countries and learned about different cultures, adaptation, flexibility and respect for each country and always behaved like a Guest! Now I'm close to 75 years and my home is in Bali. I had many amazing experiences on my journey and never regretted my decision (which I made at a very young age)in regard to the profession I chose! It seems most young people missing guts and want to play safe!
Off topic I know but should I move to Bali? Cost of living stuff like that... Only if you feel like sharing no pressure.
Best to take a holiday trip to Bali and look for yourself if it is was you looking for>Bali has so many faces places and location that suits certain people . Coastwise depends on what is your budget. You can find areas that are full of nightlife etc. Areas that are more relaxed, or further out quiet village life.@@RealityCollapseTheory
Thank you. I’m an old Jewish woman with most of my family in Israel. My grandparents are buried in kfar Blum next to the Jordan. My aunt and uncle established the kibbutz. Their children and their children’s children have worked and studied and played alongside of the Arab people since the 1940’s. I am heartbroken
If Israelis want to redraw geographic lines to 3000 years ago, then Iran now owns Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkey and parts of Europe. LOL
Community and regional colleges are great. Go online. The college doesn’t matter, it really doesn’t.
We have great word for face-punchable in German: Backpfeifengesicht 😂
My life would not have been as good without a college education. I went to a community college first, very excellent instruction, and then to a state college, also excellent. The best thing to get out of college, besides the degree which opens many many doors, is the ability to become a Critical Thinker and to learn how to learn anything. It also allows you to live in a community and engage with other students and teachers...helps you to grow as a person. I would recommend to anyone to get some kind of college education, community colleges are great and you can transfer your credits to a state college and finish your degree at a reasonably low cost...it is well worth it... by the way , I studied Engineering, so I have a high regard to those that can think analytically and solve problems...and have a high regard for the Scientific Method of evaluating evidence and observations.
If you think that the ability to critically think comes from a college education, today, you may have missed the point.
"...The best thing to get out of college, besides the degree which opens many many doors, is the ability to become a Critical Thinker ...."
That may have been commonly the case in the past. But it's the exact opposite of what the vast majority of students are experiencing today.
@@wpriddy NO...I think YOU are missing the point...I did not say that you can only learn how to think critically in college, but the truth is, that odds are, college is the best place to learn how to think critically. Many times parents, relatives, friends, etc.... are not the best teachers...I say that from experience.
@@livethemoment5148I agree with you 💯 percent. I went to a small Methodist College, then transferred to Harlaxton College in England. It was the best education and opened my mind.
Then I came home and got my Vocational education and became a Scientist. Now I can travel the World and get a job anywhere.
I feel I had the best of EVERY experience.
I went to school to learn, not to party.
I believe in all young people to do two years in the service. We need some discipline taught to these younger folks.
@@thatguy6054
And you know what the vast majority are getting out of college...
please wise one tell us what the majority are getting out of college.
He highlights the stupidity of woke, “progressive” Ivy League students who support Hamas, then thinks he’s reinforcing his point by bashing a group of conservatives who support Israel and actually share Maher’s own views on the importance of free speech? Am I missing something here?
nope. Even though BM is beginning to see the light, he has to stop short of actually siding with any republican, or even 'gasp!!' Trump.
Bill thank you!!! You say what we’re all thinking!!! Lol 👍
First he says that there is no freedom of ideas at elite schools, and then proceeds to recite a long list of individuals who graduated from elite schools who hold views diametrically opposed to those he claimed the schools reinforced.
They graduated _years_ ago when there actually was some freedom of ideas.
It's both terrifying and sad that this is our next generation of leaders.
Yeah, they were. You aren't speaking russian, chinese or german and you are free to spew such nonsense.@@TooMuchDramaInTheMilkyWay
If you cherry pick an ideology of the youth today, you could come up with almost anything.
I feel no leader we’ve had over the past several decades hasn’t had dirty laundry. It’s a big club….and we ain’t in it.
Being paranoid just hurts YOU. When you deal with crooks all the time and you manage to come out as clean as Biden that is saying a lot. @@Propersciguy
@@TooMuchDramaInTheMilkyWay Exactly they can't even govern
My kid graduates from URI in late May despite him telling me for 4 years that its been bs. They try to indoctrinate & essentially train you to become a worker to do what we say you are, independent thought doesn't exist here. More grateful he's seen that than him graduating college. That's sad.
My florist is so lucky, he was eaten by a bear and still came out smelling like roses
Absolutely correct…as a college professor, it is difficult to find logical colleagues. Go to a trade school and start a business.
Sorry next gen: no engineers, doctors, attorneys, vets, accountants for you!
did that , worked great.
@@super8mate the best engineers, lawyers and financial folks never graduated. Elon Musk, Bill Gates Warren Buffet, Abe Lincoln…and the list is too long. College education teaches you to all think the same…with limitations. It teaches you to be an arrogant culture warrior, which is useless…and Ivy League schools are the worst. Ivy League schools teach you to exploit other people…sad.
Self-employment is the only true path to success in an increasingly automated world.
Why is it everyone here seems to think the only important thing is to find a job that will make you a lot of money? If we all thought that this would be a very sterile world indeed. What would it be like with no poets, no writers, no artists, no musicians, no philosophers, no historians? What about people who have absolutely no interest in computer programming or business? Are we all useless people? My husband and I are classical musicians, our children are as well. We make half as much, maybe even a quarter as much as my brother and sister, both with their own businesses. But we have a nice life, when you have less, you need less. We make other people happy with our music...children, the elderly, the disabled. I love teaching children about beauty, the beauty in a melody that feeds your soul.. And I'll warrant we are happier than a lot of you guys chasing after business deals. " Money isn't everything" may be a worn out cliche' but it is very true. If I was stuck in am office or running a business I think I'd shoot myself. We are all different, maybe people who don't understand that and think trade schools are the answer for everyone would benefit from a little culture..
I work at a place near USC and have to sell stuff to their students. They are some of the dumbest kids ever, but they will go on to success because their parents were rich enough to send them there and their network of friends from USC will keep them employed in great jobs their whole life.
Aw, another pathetic man that needs to break people down to feel good about themselves. That is the whole point of this, "You don't need to go, you are better than everyone all on your own. Smarter in fact." It is a sad and pathetic charade that only works on the Dunning Kruger people of the world
It is amazing how most of the issues with the left are from privileged kids. You see them marching in protest for the poor while destroying poor neighborhoods with their $1000 phones out to record all the “ good “ they are doing.
Stupid is as stupid does