How Layton Forever Changed Ace Attorney
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- This is a video where I talk about the development history of Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney and how its creation affected the future of the Ace Attorney franchise.
I have been a fan of Ace Attorney for a long time and I've always thought that Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright was one of the most interesting installments in the franchise, due to its general weirdness and surprisingly important place in AA's history. After hearing rumors that The Great Ace Attorney series was finally going to be localized last year, I started thinking about this crossover again. In many ways The Great Ace Attorney is a spiritual sequel to the Layton crossover so I decided to make a video illustrating this while also talking about the game's history and overall impact on the AA franchise. Hope people enjoy it.
Special thanks to the “Gyakuten Saiban Library” which hosts dozens of translated Ace Attorney interviews and was an amazing resource while making this video.
If I got any facts wrong, please let me know.
----Chapters----
00:00 - Prologue
03:14 - Chapter 1: How It All Began
07:16 - Chapter 2: Worlds Collide
11:22 - Chapter 3: Troubles in Labyrinthia
16:23 - Chapter 4: Dual Development
20:39 - Chapter 5: End of the Story
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15th Anniversary Gyakuten Saiban Special Talk Session: Yamazaki Takeshi X Iwamoto Tatsurō (2017)
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3DS Gyakuten Saiban 5 Special Long Interview (2013)
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Ace Attorney 4 Criticisms
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Ace Attorney 5 Announced in 2007 (kind of):
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A Collaboration Between Level-5 and Capcom's Flagship Titles Come True With Layton Kyōju VS Gyakuten Saiban (2012)
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Creator Interview - Yamazaki Takeshi (2012)
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Dai Gyakuten Saiban - Special Discussion With The Developers To Celebrate Completion & Release (2015)
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Dai Gyakuten Saiban 2 - A Romantic Adventure Of Reminiscence With The Development Staff Vol. 1 (2017)
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Iwata Asks: Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
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Correction: I accidentally said that The Great Ace Attorney takes place in the early years of the 19th century but it actually takes place near the end of the century.
EDIT (2022): I would also like to add that I overlooked an important aspect of Ace Attorney's history in my video. After completing Ace Attorney 3 in 2004, Shu Takumi tried to move away from the franchise at the time and develop what would eventually become Ghost Trick. Takumi was not initially planning to work on AA4 and was hoping to only supervise a new team that would direct the title. However, that new team ran into development troubles and Takumi ended up becoming the 4th game's writer regardless. So you could say that the "dominion effect" I mentioned in the conclusion actually began in 2004. You can read more about this period in the franchise's history in this interview: gyakutensaibanlibrary.blogspot.com/2021/07/a-long-interview-with-developers-core.html
I believe it takes place like around 1902 or 1903. Because of a certain historical figure that shows up in chapter 4. So it would be the beginning of the 20th century.
@@andrewfarrenkopf3408 I actually couldn't find an exact date the game takes place in but the official product page on Nintendo's eShop says "late 19th century".
@@bowloflentils Strange, the reason I said it was early 20th century was because of the defendant in chapter 4. He's a real person, and was only in London from 1901-1903. But it is a fictional story, so these dates could have been moved around etc.
@@andrewfarrenkopf3408 Case 3 of TGAA2 is confirmed to be "at the turn of the century", so TGAA1 would be 1899 and TGAA2 (at least Cases 3 to 5) would be 1900.
@@thepapermask2102 They mention TGAA 1's placement in the first case
My favorite part of the game is that Ace Attorney and Professor Layton are canonically set in the same universe despite being owned by different companies.
I mean it's canon in that game, but no other game in both series
@@ryanm8529 But I mean, there's not really anything contradicting it in the mainline titles for either game? And both companies had a say in the development of this.
So unless one company (likely Capcom) says it's non-canon, it's canon.
@@Rot8erConeX The Professor Layton series stands its roots on the "magic/supernatural doesn't exist" and instead finds a "scientific" explanation for the bizarre events that happen in the series (ok, sometimes even these 'scientific' explanations are quite over the top, like in Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box or even in Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright itself, but it still mantains this position).
On the other side, Ace Attorney embraces some supernatural elements, like Maya and Pearl Fey being able to channel the spirits of the dead, Phoenix being able to see the lies in someone's statements in the form of Psyche Locks, and many others (Athena, Apollo, Trucy... just to name a few).
It looks really implausible that both series could be canon in the same universe.
It's officially non canon, but at the same time there's nothing about the game that really contradicts the extablished timelines of either series. In fact, Great Ace Attorney feels so much like the crossover that i dont mind considering it canon at all.
@@Emboarbof professor layton is a bit weird with that because itll be like "oh time travel isnt real" but then turn around and go "ok it kind of is." honestly i think it just depends on whether the plot requires magic to be real or if it can be reliably explained with science lol
Despite everything, this crossover is still one of the most ambitious and incredible project coming from both Capcom and Level-5. I still remember the day I bought and played this game for the first time, it was incredible. I grew up as a Layton fan, since in my country AA never reached as much popularity as the former, but now I want to try some instalments of the franchise, I’ll probably buy the bundle of the trilogy + the great ace attorney
While the crossover was undoubtedly a major venture for Level-5, it was fairly normal for Capcom. The company basically set the precedent for Video Game crossovers, having multiple crossover franchises under their belt at the time like Marvel vs Capcom or Project X Zone; not to mention smaller scale crossovers in their games like Dante in SMT3:Nocturne. Besides, AA is a relatively low-priority franchise among Capcom’s library - not that they treat their more successful IPs much better.
In retrospect, Level-5 was likely willing to take the risk at the time because the Layton series was floundering after the conclusion of Layton’s arc in Unwound Future and the series had seen a sharp decline in sale after the move to 3DS. Level-5 was already looking for another IP to set as their flagship franchise; one of the big candidates being Yokai Watch which was in development at the time and was set for a major franchise release complete with an anime and manga.
I think if this game was financially successful and the story-puzzle genre was truly ambitious , we would have seen a crossover between Layton, AA and one of Spike Chunsoft’s murder mystery games since Chunsoft already have frequent crossovers through their Mystery Dungeon series.
I was basically the same. I’d played Layton a ton, but never tried AA when I played the crossover. The trial segments got me hooked. I actually really enjoyed all the newer 3ds games. And the crossover itself is always going to be a favorite for its story and soundtrack. Hope they get their own rereleases eventually. I’ve had enough of the original gba trilogy, good as it is.
There's a reason the original trilogy of Ace Attorney is among one of the best trilogy of all video games ever on almost any top 10
just watch them make resident evil vs yokai watch
Yup, I'd say the trilogy + The Great Ace Attorney series are probably the best games in the series.
Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright, despite its shaky development, and admittedly slightly mediocre climax, is honestly an incredible title, with excellent music, visual style, puzzles, and trials throughout it's entire run time, while keeping a strong pace and introducing interesting elements throughout. It's probably my 2nd favorite title for each franchise respectively.
I agree. My only issue is that the climax doesn't really make any sense, but everything before that was golden. I really like it.
I liked it and the great ace attorney learned from it and used the cool features, most importantly multiple witnesses on the stand
What are your favorites btw?
@@JJLiew
Last Specter and a tie between the first game and Investigations 2
DGS or The Great Ace Attorney: Chronicle’s is its spiritual successor
It was still absolute genius to use a crossover to explain the uncanny art style as the AA team struggled to adapt their art style into 3D, and outright admitted as such in the developer notes. Putting the early AA models next to Layton characters instantly creates a feeling of No Man's Land that just helps sell the art style.
I'm inclined to think it also provided a relatively safe testing ground to ensure the models in the main series could be better. ❤
it's really funny bc growing up i was a PL fan, and i hadn't really heard of AA until i heard about the crossover. so my first ever AA game WAS the crossover, and ever since then i've been hooked on the series. AJAA is also my favorite mainline AA game, and i was always bummed that it never got the true continuation i thought it deserved, but this video really shed light on a lot of curious questions i had, so thank you for this!!
This!!! I have been into AA ever since the anime's release, and it's kind of a shame that AA4's threads were left hanging.
I like AA5 and 6 as individual games, or taken as split entries with no connections to the past ones. But adding them to AA4, they do not hold up very well story-wise.
@@julianthegamer6539 The crossover was my first AA game too ! Someone just gave it to me and my sister for some reason on chrismas, i knew what PL was but AA, not really. 🤷 Now AA is one of my favorite game franchise. ^^
This will sound like a drag but of the main series AJAA was my least favorite because while the story was godlike.... it just wasn't that funny. Like for me an AA game needs both a good story and funny characters and AJAA just wasn't that funny.
My case was kinda opposite, I was a AA fan and never heard of PL series until I saw the first trailer of the crossover.
Luckily the game took a long so I had enough time to play all PL games ajajaja (until then)
It was the opposite for me
The fact the DD team were told they didnt have to follow up on any story threads from 4 explains a lot but is also infuriating if the series is supposed to be a continuous story
I mean, it's because of the cross over that I ever got into Ace Attorney, and now I love it just as much as professor Layton - i just hope the great ace attorney chronicles sell well enough to rejuvenate the series in the west--
I have only played the first of the two and I can tell you that I was not expecting anything, since the last ace attorney games already had me tired but I can tell you that it is one of the best ace attorney games and that for what they told me on the 2nd is even better so I hope it can revive the franchise in the west.
@@marcomunoz4741 did you beat the first or not, because there's a character that's literally called eggy benedict.
@@vikinggamer7727 yeah the one who tried to take the coat from the pawn shop well that was not his name that was his alias
@@marcomunoz4741 yeah, i forgot his real name and he is my favorite character from the first game.
@@marcomunoz4741 I am playing the second one currently and so far it's amazing. Didn't care too much for the first one honestly.
man i miss both these franchises like crazy. i remember the crossover being fun for what it was but was hoping for a more 50/50 experience but remember it being more of a layton game than an ace attorney one. so hyped up to finally play the dai gyakuten games in a few days!
Wait till you get to part 2 the feels oh the feels xD
Really? I remember it being more of an ace attorney game than a layton game because the focus was on the trials and the puzzles were few and far between (and really easy too).
The plot was definitely Laytonesque but there was about as much Ace Attorney content as there was Layton. Puzzles simply replaced the Investigation segments which make it feel more streamlined.
Level 5 was the developer rather than Capcom, so that feeling makes sense.
@ it had a part 2
I also like how Phoenix is the Goku to Layton's Superman in the crossover.
I remember being SUPER blown away by the advancement for the series this game provided. The 3D graphics looked great, awesome new mechanics and an AMAZING OST.
Shu Takumi's involvement was definitely the deal sealer for the game. Only thing that's unfortunate is that he wasn't involved in the mainline AAs in DD and SoJ ..
he wasn’t? no wonder DD had somewhat of a weak plot. SoJ was amazing tho imo
@@patricetan No, he wasn't. He left AA for a bit after Apollo Justice and then came back just to work on the Great Ace Attorney because since it is set in 1900 he could create a new cast of characters without worrying about inserting Phoenix Wright like he was forced to do in Apollo Justice.
@@thephoenixxm4160 How about Miles Edgeworh Investigation?
Did Shu Takumi was in charge of the game?
Nope! After Apollo Justice, Shu Takumi wanted to take a break, so a B team was made to create the spinoff games Ace Attorney Investigations and Investigations 2. However, after those games were released, Shu Takumi was still busy, so this B team was then moved onto the mainline games, to make Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice.
@realtimeentertainment7079 i really liked it. The chronological structure of things is weird, but yeah very fun title. I think part of the disdain might just come from Takumi not being the writer alone, and sure a major thread from AJ wasn't followed up on. But the knowledge that its a new writing team that was encouraged to not stress it actually makes that more excusable than just thinking the same guy forgot or didn't feel like following up on something he wrote lol. And as someone else said, SoJ was AMAZING, both definitely in my top 3 of the main line id say.
I really hope Nintendo still has the distribution rights for the Professor Layton games in Europe. Now that we're getting more Ace Attorney games for the Switch, we also need some remasters like they did for mobile.
I agree. The port of Katrielle's game was good, but the original six need to be brought over, especially since the older DS games are not as easy (or cheap) to come by.
that's surprising to hear, because there's always at least a couple of the first four Layton games in any second hand game shop I've visited
I absolutely adore the Professor Layton games, I really want a new game (even if it is just a remake collection).
@@14akamaru The 3ds games ( physical copies) are even more expensive (at least in belgium)
There's going to be a new Layton game on Switch! New World of Steam will have Layton and Luke return
I did feel that the Ace Attorney series were going in a state of change and hibernation between '07 to '12 with releases like Investigations 1 & 2, Ace Attorney 4, and the aformentioned Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright.
I believe the change was good for the series because it made the games going foward more fresh, expressive and enjoyable, with your statement on the fans opinion of The Great Ace Attorney 1 & 2 showing high quality presentation, music and gameplay an example of the change that Shu Takumi and the capcom graphical teams experienced when developing PL vs PW with Level 5. While the other team made a fresh new way of presenting the mainline titles that I enjoy very much.
I loved Professor Layton as a child and this game was the introduction for me to Ace Attorney, so i will always love it.
Same here. I had the whole Layton collection, and then I discovered this crossover and learned about ace attorney... and I fell in love instantly
I was the exact opposite! I played Ace Attorney in middle school and I had never even heard of Professor Layton until the crossover. I have a few Layton games and I’m LOVING the series so far!
The Layton games (but mostly all Level 5 games) always had an Italian localization, with voice actors and everything, and Layton Vs Wright was no exception. From AA1 to 4, these also had an italian localization, but after that italy was never to be seen again as an available language in Ace Attorney games. Layton Vs Wright would never had an italian localization if it weren't for Layton
E che cavoli...
The Italian copies for PLvsPW are also extremely hard to find nowadays. One of my friends has got one, and he says that he regularly sees them going on Ebay for like 100+€
Same thing happened with spanish :/
Great Ace Attorney 1 & 2 along with Edgeworth investigations 2 are my three favorite ace attorney games.
Shu Takumi's decision has proven to be a gold!
@@vintprox yeah I reply love what he did. And I'm glad he took things he learned from the crossover and implemented them.
In 2015 and 2017 the AA franchise: rest in spaghetti
In 2021: they never forgetti’d
This was super interesting to hear about. I never knew that Layton VS Ace attorney never had this much of an impact
I did in fact forget this game existed. It’s currently downloading to my 3DS so thanks for the reminder.
What a weird thing to have been made. That reveal trailer is kind of amazing.
Hope you enjoy. The middle cases of layton vs ace attorney are my favourite.
@@yoshimario40 It's been great so far. I realize it wasn't exactly panned or anything at the time but I am surprised by the somewhat lukewarm reception it received.
It's incredibly charming.
ok so the lesson here is everyone needs to go play ghost trick
ironically I didn't play AA until after I played ghost trick and heard AA was made by the same guy lmaoooo
pretty sure I'm in the minority with that
man i wanna play ghot trick on my computer so bad but i cant
Ghost trick is so epic
@@evilartise8912 it’s available on iOS as far as I know for all the chapters at $10
@@evilartise8912 Do you know about this thing called "emulator"?
I also got into AA because of Ghost Trick
Man I really wish Proffesor Layton vs Phoenix wright was on steam right now
Has it been ported to *anything* but 3DS? My 3DS died last year and I'd like to replay it.
I guess there's always Citra.
@@andyenglish4303 it may get ported to mobile
@@andyenglish4303 It does play very well on Citra.
I think porting Layton in general is difficult because Nintendo has or had publishing rights to it in some territories. It's kind of the reason Layton Brothers ended up on mobile instead of a proper Layton game some years back.
This crossover was actually my first introduction into the Professor Layton series! I've never officially played any of the PL or AA games, since my parents could never really afford handheld consoles, but I loved watching playthroughs of the AA games on RUclips, because I thought the story was pretty neat. A few years after I had finished watching someone play Apollo Justice, I saw some MLP fanart of the crossover game and was like "there's an entire game I missed?!" Decided to check out the PL series before I saw the crossover and fell in love with it! Would've loved playing as a kid.
Hmmmmmm....
Yeaah..
Same.. Playthrough AA watcher myself since UMVC3 introduced me to Ace Attorney and since I learned of the new PL game coming to Switch in 2025 Im getting into the Layton trilogy myself.
The change was probably for the better. These are great games but a bit of new blood and ideas helped keeping the series fresh. I love every single game this series has to offer.
Awesome work here! As an aside, I hope Ghost Trick gets a touch up sometime soon
Yeah, Ghost Trick is an awesome title that deserves to be on more platforms. While it isn't quite a remaster, the iOS version does have higher resolution graphics from what I understand and Capcom recently updated the title to work on modern Apple devices.
@@bowloflentils I recently played and beat ghost trick on my iPhone 12 Pro Max and it was a great experience
It was my first play through too!
I cried when I heard the Announcement for the first Time because both were my favourite Game Series. This was a dream that came true to me.
Having played DGS1 (haven't started 2 just yet) the influence from the Layton crossover shines through incredibly strong and it does so at every level. The crossover itself was a very fun experience that totally went beyond my expectations- I was expecting something way less big in scale, I suppose- but the effect its had on the series really can't be understated. I wasn't aware of the circumstances of GS5 and GS6s development, but in hindsight that only makes them more impressive to me. It's sad that we've yet to see any conclusion to the story threads dropped in GS4, a game I personally love, but GS5 and 6 both have so much fresh air to them I worry the franchise would've stagnated if Shuu Takumi would've been the sole writer and creator in charge, considering his "conservative" style. I know the originally trilogy was developed under extreme circumstances with very little time and limited hardware, and is very beloved, but personally I think that by the third entry, the characters and concepts were starting to grow old. I don't share the common idea that the trilogy is the flawless masterpiece everyone praises it to be, the games have flaws, just like all the other entries in the series, and there was a lot to be improved on; and in my opinion the "lower-pedigree" main line sequels have both refined and expanded on the formula in many ways.
I'm sad the jury system didn't appear in the main line of games after Apollo and Phoenix fought so hard to get it implemented. That most of all feels like a plot hole. But other than that, I don't know, I feel like overall it was maybe for the best. Waiting impatiently for GS7, though.
Wow, this was really insightful and interesting. I never thought about the jury system in GAA being a direct continuation from Apollo Justice. Was really cool to hear about the development of this game and how it affected the course of the series, well done
Thank you for putting this together, it was so informative!
Takumi: we don't add what we don't need
Penny: am i a joke for you
that's because they needed Penny...
I'm forever appreciative for this game. I was just browsing the E-Shop since I had enough for a game and the puzzles caught my eye. I knew about both Layton and Phoenix but not really what the games were about. Even if it's a bit watered down, I didn't know that at the time and got hooked. Ended up buying the AA trilogy soon after and now it's my favorite game franchise. Glad to see DGS getting the localization it deserved finally.
The PL VS AA trailer still gives me chills like the first time i saw it. The music was phenomenal too. Im playing Great Ace Attorney now, and i can really tell how much better the writing is compared to AA5 and AA6.
Great insightful video
I feel like the time off since the 3DS era has really allowed the fandom to mature, grow, and foster appreciation for previously overlooked and sometimes disliked titles thanks to the rereleases of nearly all of them. I hope it lets them really do something creative when they eventually make their return whether Takumi is the one to bring the series back or they get another new team to inject their own blood into the franchise.
Been playing The Great Ace Attorney ever since midnight on release, I was relatively uninformed on how the game worked (only knowing about the Dance of Deduction and general premise), I was pleasantly surprised when I saw that the multi witness cross-examinations made a return. I did love playing the Crossover, after all.
Also I know Ghost Trick isn't in focus here but I must take the opportunity to say, it's an amazing game that more people should play. I really hope there could be a remaster eventually, as a DS copy can be hard to track down and the mobile version is iOS only for whatever reason.
I really love Professor Layton vs Phoenix Right, is fun, funny, creative, pretty, dark at times, and a very enjoyable with a great cast. I'm glad they made it.
Thank you for making this video! As for my personal experience, I actually played the first Dai Gyakuten Saiban game (fan translated, of course) directly after finishing the Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney game, so it was quite surprising how similar it felt to PLVSAA. The general feel of everything being covered in tea bags, and the use of multiple witnesses in a cross-examination were some of my favourite bits! Truly, Ace Attorney and Professor Layton are my favourite game franchises of all time, and I am so thankful that I can enjoy them.
I came to Ace Attorney through the Layton crossover, playing AA1-3 and AA5 with dropping AA4 after the first case after I enjoyed the crossover (I have yet to play AA6 but I will in 2 months when it releases on PC). Personally I don't like it when Adventure games consist of independent episodes being thrown together (like Layton's Mystery Journey did) so naturally I preferred PLvsPW:AA over the mainline Ace Attorney games. Atm I'm playing The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles (7/10 chapters finished) which is why I came back to this video. I love how much this game feels like the crossover, I still find the investigation parts to be a bit lacking, but they certainly improved over the mainline games and reusing the mechanics first introduced by the crossover made me feel really nostalgic. The overarching story spanning over the entirety of the two games is obviously something I was hoping for and what I am most exited about. I hope the game finishes as grand as it is setting itself up for.
10:25 That one jury member from great ace attorney: "Did somebody say stereoscopic?!"
This game should be ported to the Switch.
0:30 thought that was a Smash letter at first XD
One of the best video essays I’ve seen on RUclips in a while! Great job!
awesome video - thanks for sharing the behind the scenes.
Great video-fascinating to hear how everything came about in the end. Well done.
This is a really well documented and edited video, the audio is also spot on.
I'm not a content creator or video editor, the fact that a regular person can notice these intricacies, says a lot. Love your work.
As a fan of the Ace Attorneys series, it gave me chills when you started to introduce the Great Ace Attorney chronicles.
Ghost Trick is criminally underrated and every adventure game fan should play it! Also - had NO IDEA it was the same creator. That is the best thing.
I was originally a fan of the Layton trilogy on the DS. I found out about the Ace Attorney series by watching the original teaser of the crossover. I bought the original AA game and the rest was history. Finally, when the game was finally localized in the West, I was already a big fan of both series, and I loved every second of the crossover. So, all in all, it was thanks to that teaser if I became a big AA fan
Im so lucky I managed to get PV VS AA while I still could. Its a brilliant game that will likely never be remastered or remade.
This was so well put together! Well done.
PLvAA is one of my favorite games of all time, glad to see it talked about! I had never played an ace attorney game, but i was already a massive layton fan, so i remember the puzzles feeling fun but kind of easy, and fighting for my damn life in the courtroom segments... loved every second lol
Documentry quality! Thanks for your works.
Great video. I truly hope that AA comes back in full force after the successes of these ports and localizations.
Really nice information about the behind-the-scenes stuff I wasn't aware of. As a fan of the AA games, this was a really cool video, well done Bowl!
I loved your video, and I learned a lot of things about this game, the studios and that stuff that i couldn't imagine so thank you a lot.
This video makes me so hyped to play the great ace Attorney chronicles. I can't even express how happy this video made me. Both these game series were very important to me while growing up. Knowing they were always interconnected makes me so happy. Thank you. You've given me a gift today.
Very well made video, thank you!!
This video was so informative, thank you!
I wonder if this affected the Professor Layton series as well. We don't see much of Hershel Layton anymore as one game was on phone staring his son doing criminal investigations (Layton Brothers Mystery Room) while another was also on phone before ported to Nintendo consoles starring his daughter and doing more light-hearted mystery solving (Layton's Mystery Journey)
Honestly the QOL improvements in this game over the game before it, Azran Legacy, left me wanting more.
Kinda sad that Lady Layton is basically it, but at least it wasn't Layton 7.
This video managed to make me emotional quite a few times.
This truly is a bittersweet story, I love the research and the thought put into this little documentary.
This game is such an important turning point for both franchises and I'm glad this argument was well delivered.
Great video I’ve been meaning to get into this series and I’m glad to know more about it
Very well done video!
I never knew how much impact PLvPW had on the Ace Attorney franchise, beyond how some of its concept were re-used in DGS/TGAA
Loved this video, learned a lot about a series I absolutely love.
Looks like both Ace Attorney AND Level 5 have been struggling in recent years. The former declined in sales and popularity and the latter failed to follow up on the flash-in-the-pan success of Yokai Watch, with Ni no Kuni 2 reportedly underperforming and causing Level 5's North American branch to eventually close.
I don't know about the former. The hd trilogy sold pretty well and introduced alot of new fans to the series, and now not only Is the seventh entry in the main series being developed but the great ace attorney series Is finally getting localised. I don't know about you but I think we might be entering A renisaince era of Ace Attorney. The same however can't be said for Level-5, unfortunately...
@@savvassavvides6681 Uh...no, there is no evidence to AA7 being a thing.
We know it was being considered at one point, but all evidence points to the project, and the 20th anniversary celebration as a whole, being effectively cancelled.
@@rainspectre3153 I don't know, according to the big capcom leak, they are planning on making aa7 at some point...
@@savvassavvides6681 That document from the leaks is outdated. Later ones from the same leak make no such mention.
I feel like Ace Attorney could come back strong if the games released on steam. Even the most recent Switch release of ace attorney chronicles bothers me because I can't be bothered to download ANOTHER game on my switch id rather just buy it on steam or something. The only Ace Attorney game I bought was the Trilogy for that reason.
Excellent video! It's great to see that LvW is being recognized for what it's done for the series and this was a generally great watch and i could tell you put a lot of research into it!
With how massive LvW's development was and everyone putting their all into it despite its hiccups, it's a damn colossal shame that it didn't sell all that well. You'd think it would sell like hotcakes with how popular both IPs are and how amazing the novelty of them crossing over was!
I do hope that Chronicles sells really well so that the work and passion that went into it can be recognized along with what it represents.
Thanks man for this very exciting video! So cool too see all these titles being connected and interwoven into an interesting development story. Play all of them is my final statement!
Great video. Very well written, argued and researched.
This video was very informative and I look forward to watching (or rewatching) more of your videos. Also the team A and B switch is so hilarious. Can’t believe the creator of Ace Attorney was put in a position were he was making spin offs to his own series. It’s just crazy!
Neat analysis! Thanks for uploading!
Very interesting video, great job!
What a great video I feel so satisfied now that I know all the backstory. Thank you.
This explanation was amazingly detailed! It's interesting how the PL and PW crossover had such a big effect on the ace attorney series in general. I'm also very happy to have been able to play TGAA in the officially localised version, this game so far is most definitely one of my favourite Ace Attorney titles too, so I really do hope to see the rumoured Ace Attorney 7 as you've talked about in the video, to actually be developed!
This video was great from the start to the end, thanks for shedding some light on this!
I learned alot from this. Thanks for presenting it all so well. Gave me alot of insight into why some of the games seemed so different in style.
Isn't it interesting how they all inspire each other? Ace Attorney was inspired by Famicom Detectives. Danganronpa was inspired by Ace Attorney. Not just that, many other franchises such as Professor Layton, Zero Escape, etc were made by developers who were big fans of Ace Attorney. I enjoyed going through The Great Ace Attorney 1&2, and I never thought I'd like such a prequel spinoff as much as I did. I hope there's an AA7 next. I never liked PL x AA, but your video definitely makes me appreciates it more, and this is certainly leagues above other Japanese crossovers like the so-called FE x SMT. I never realized Takumi made Ghost Trick, no wonder that game is so good.
And "Famicom Detective Club" itself was also inspired by "The Portopia Serial Murder Case" created by Yuji Horii (who also created the "Dragon Quest" series) for Enix on PC-6001 and Famicom, that game being sometimes considered as the first Japanese ancestor of Visual Novels. :)
Indeed, "Ghost Trick" is fantastic.
This is a really great video! Thank you for more focus on a game that is revolutionary!
This was such an informative video! I’ve been a fan of AA since its DS games, and I remember being so excited about the crossover game, since I liked the Layton games as well. I was personally kind of let down by it, since it felt to me like a Layton game featuring Phoenix Wright, with some of the best parts of the AA series getting swallowed up by Level 5, and I wish in that sense the game felt more balanced. I didn’t know about the delays that happened as a result and it makes a lot of sense, since AA 5 felt very isolated from every other title. I agree though- Spirit of Justice is one of my favorite mainline titles despite being helmed by a different production team, and while I’m still nostalgic for the sprites and midis of yore, I’m glad the series is experiencing a comeback!
Well done that was clear and pleasant to watch ! :)
Great video! I've fallen in love with both franchises because of this crossover and I'm glad to see more people talking about it!
This is really well done. Your channel deserves a ton more subscribers.
Great video! I never even knew how PLvsPW had affected the series. Also, like another user mentioned, a video about Ghost Trick perhaps? :)
Cyropynical what are you doing here, you should be making Cetspop 2
I gotta say, each time I replay this game I find myself appreciating it a bit more.
that extra filled me the right way
I am here before this blows up
Seriously good material, it does deserve to blow up. Fingers crossed.
This video is amazing, it really shed some light in the hundreds of lose ends ive noticed in the series.
Started playing in 2020 and i find it so strange that AA5 just basically ignores all concepts and basically all characters in AA4, and then why TGAA expanded on AA4 idea that was so many years before it (that btw i just love having multiple witnesses and the Juri system. I hope they cross it over to the main series as well).
Also the Investigation Games existence was always kinda weird without knowing the context of their creation, really good video that makes everything clear!
This was an amazing watch, thanks so much for sharing! I've always loved Ace Attorney and when PL vs PW:AA came out, I got hooked on the Professor Layton franchise as well. I personally loved the Great Ace Attorney the most, so I have no idea why it wasn't that popular. Can't wait for the next AA game!!
Oh my gosh. This video has been recommended to me for a long time but I was hesitant to click on it. Now I have and this is like...INCREDIBLE OH MY GOD. Your editing and source usage makes this a full on documentary! How do you not have more subs??!
Also your voice is soooo gentle. It’s so perfect for a video like this.
PLxPW was flawed (the court twists didn't live up to the usual highs) and the game ended with layton's trademark variants of 'it was all some kind of dream/illusion'. But man was it a wild fun ride. And the soundtrack is stunning.
The ironic thing is that, by all accounts, this game is now going to be lost to time, as the development contract for it expired in 2019, and Level-5 is now going through bankruptcy (they've already shut down their Western branch). The game which lead to perhaps the most important Ace Attorney game (TGAA) since the Trilogy, all but inaccessible.
wdym lost to time? are you saying it can't, like... be distributed anymore? If so, that sucks!
@@analysissel Well, yeah.
The game is still up on the 3DS shop technically, but once it's gone, that's it. Capcom doesn't even officially acknowledge the game now.
going through bankruptcy? source? it's been published that the offices outside Japan are shutdown
@@rainspectre3153 :(
There are still cartridges about
Fantastic video! I had no real understanding of the timelines or the switches in directors, but considering some of my favourite Ace Attorney games include Investigations 2, The Great Ace Attorney, T&T and Spirit of Justice... well clearly the team didn't matter too much because I seem to love them both! Thanks for the comprehensive guide
After all these years there's finally a video on this rather unknown game that I've loved, and I learned so much from this video. I'm a fan of both games, especially the music. I admittingly haven't played either of the franchises completely, but this game I remember in my teens being hooked by it. The music just gives me chills. The end credit music is just amazing music and such a great fan service; the way they combined both themes into one beautifully and epically. Listening to the soundtrack is a whole another experience. I think the live orchestrated approach of level 5's music has affected Ace Attorney afterwards as well, like Great Ace Attorney has amazing grand soundtrack like PL:PW.
Thanks for the video!
Fun Fact not mentioned in video: the voices for the ace attorney cast in PL:PW (in the original Japanese version) are the actors who portrayed them in the live action movie, so there was "celebrity" sell points as well, which raises bars for the voice acting. That is also Level 5's way of selling their games, for example voice for Layton is Yo Oizumi (my personal favorite actor) and Inazuma Eleven, the protagonist is voiced by Junko Takeuchi (Naruto).
Absolutely fine job
Great video!
I grew up as a PL fan, and got into AA much later in life at uni through friends recommending it, and THEN I found out there was a crossover and I was like ??!!!! This is the greatest day of my LIFE???!!!! It’s an outstanding game, I adore it. And now playing TGAA on switch, I can see the influences that the crossover had so clearly (such as witnesses reacting to other witnesses and getting more information from that).
Phoenix doing the Yu Narukami dance got me cracking up😂 also amazing video get up the good work 👍
It's really a great video ! GG
I’m so happy you’ve made another upload!! Being a huge fan on your Falcom vid I know the quality is top notch here! Please keep up the great work!! ^_^
great video! really interesting and informative, and well put together :^)
I replayed the crossover a few months back and I loved it way more than I remembered. Honestly it might even overtake investigations 2 as my favourite ace attorney game, but its hard to decide
Lentils with some new J-Adventure content and I'm here for it all day.
Amazing video dude! Please keep going! You earned a new subscriber!
I played Ace Attorney first on the switch and immediately fell in love, buying all the other games for my nintendo 3ds. I didn’t realise that the Great Ace Attorney was now on the switch, but I immediately got it after watching this video :3
This was a very interesting video thank you!
This is my favorite game on the 3DS
This is what a call GOOD CONTENT well done