The same Michael Gove who, as Education Secretary introduced a rule that any teacher who was found to have taken drugs would be struck off and then when it emerged during the leadership campaign that he himself had taken drugs remarked that 'no person should be defined by their worst mistake.' A hypocrite of the highest order.
Well if an old Tweet can be used to hurt a persons future employment now , then why shouldn't an old recording hurt a Tory MPs future position especially someone as loathsome as old Michael 'POB' Gove .
I firmly believe that bigots don’t change their deep-seated prejudices, they just get good at masking them. Gove simply looks like a horrible c, trust your eyes. Angela Rayner was spot on, she had nothing to apologise for.
@Ayy Leeuz Oh my! It explains a lot being a closet gay, hating and loathing himself thus reflecting that hate on those open guy because he hasn’t the courage! What a despicable and sad little man!
"Those of us who've spent hours in New York bath-houses"? The mere thought of gurner Gove cruising the corridors in nowt but a skimpy towel is enough to turn a gay man straight.
"It was a different time" We talk of the 80s and 90s as if it was the 17th or 18th Centuary. It was not acceptable then let alone now.. Only people who spoke like this was the National Front, the Ignorant and students at one of the Oxbridge elite universities. So this is what an Oxbrifge education gives you! Clearly his belifes hasn't stopped his career. Please don't say sorry I've changed. 1. Sorry is not a word to be used when you get caught out and used as a free pass or get out card. 2. No one changes those opinions or belifes so radically even with a eureka moment no matter how many years.
Bullshit on that. 80s and now are like 2 different worlds. And yes people can change their minds radically. That said he is a tw*t, no doubt about that.
@@bikerslow2598 Bullshit back at yeah! Maybe you have personal experience of this but I haven't. I totally disagree, I've never met a racist make a 90 degree change. Same with homophobia and sexism they just become more careful in their comments in public but behind 'closed door' there still the same . Once a sexist, racist, homophobe always maybe less homsphobe, racist and sexist but it's still there.
@@alandillon968 Yes this was racist talk even back in the 80’s, anybody say otherwise where either one themselves or to high on coke at that time. But it’s totally possible to make that U-turn, here in Sweden there’s been a couple of those, buuut those has been very outspoken about their change of heart often turning against that culture by working against racism. Clearly Gove hasn’t done either and that tells enough, he still is a bastard and a racist in the core!
@@andyhoward940 That's really impressive. What other non-snowflake things can you do to damage your prospects and those of everyone else? I'm sure everyone's in awe of you.
And again...the 'words-shouldn't-be-taken-out-of-context' argument raises its slippery head. This is pure sophistry. What possible context would make these recorded insults - made in such a denigrating tone - by Michael Gove morally acceptable?
The context of an audience of similar mind who like to kick homeless people to death under bridges and burn £50 notes in front of tramps Perfectly acceptable.
Well. In context, It could have been sarcastic irony ... but the tone of voice would have been different. It could have been provocative, ... The tone of voice however sounds serious. This was a speech in a familiar setting for him. It makes you wonder how bigotted the mentality of this type of person really is. 🤔
@Ayy Leeuz wow ! Free speech don't sit well with you lefties does it , someone expressed an opinion 35 years ago and now needs to 'suffer' what does the Marxist handbook suggest , Death ? Public flogging ?
Perhaps as a public servant, Laura Trott should enlighten us on the things she doesn’t want to be judged on now.. She literally dug herself a massive sink hole right there. It’s a shame there were no astute Journalists in the room to press her on it.
"Those of us who've spent hours in New York bath houses will realise that you can pack in 15 loving relationships and 300 one night stands and still be none the worse for wear." I'm still trying to fathom the "those of US" part...
Maybe he was talking about the English people as a whole when he said _"a bunch of fuzzywuzzies who can't look after themselves"_ and about his dear leader when he talked about _"300 one night stands"._
@@wodens-hitman1552 "a soldier's nickname for the typical Sudanese warrior, from his method of dressing his hair; hence as a slang term for a coloured native of other countries, such as Fiji and New Guinea" (Oxford English Dictionary)
We fuzzy wizzes we’re dam fine living in harmony with nature and our environment unit a declaration was made to take our resources, our wealth peoples and territories.
It's what the British soldier called the Hadendowa or Beja of Sudan as they teased their hair out. They were powerful warriors. Kipling wrote a poem about them.
@@BillOdyssey 'These days'? Odd that you think thirty years ago is 'these days', when your uber-wokeness creates the impression of you being about fifteen years old, at most. Love the way you condescend to people you think aren't half as clever as yourself, by addressing them as your social inferior...GUV.
@@BillOdyssey Indeed he was. And not only intelligent, but also right on important matters. Prescient, in fact. Sad to say, too much of Britain is a multicultural shithole. I mean... Savile Town. LOL Far from multicultural though it may be, it's not monocultural in a good way. LOL
Nobody can ever change. They will always be what the were. It is just more difficult to maintain a facade, in the beginning, but finally it becomes easier. Gove is what he was as a student and he will never change.
"Nobody can ever change". Is that off the top of your own head, or are you quoting one of history's great yet forgotten minds? Strangely, I googled it, and nothing came up.
The Slimy Gove seems to be have suggested that he has spent enough time in bath houses to have witnessed homosexual behaviour closely enough to have catalogued it. Is there something we should know?
Funny how Jeremy corbyn wasn't allowed the old it was 30 years ago routine... simply put he was of an age where he should apologies himself but these are toxic views and his brexit rhetoric seems to support this
While you snivelling Remoaners are complaining about every tiny little hic-up of Brexit that appears in the news, like a few pigs being chucked in the dumpster or a slight shortage of urgent blood tests, sewage flavoured happy fish or a Welsh port closing down etc. etc. etc., us heroic patriotic Brexit supporting farmers, fishermen and our courageous Brexiteer carworker brothers in Swindon are reaping the magnificent benefits of the fantastic success of our glorious Brexit triumph and we can now drag our perfect English knuckles on our uneven English pavements and mouth breathe all over the place, as maskless as we like. Why can't you just let us true blue pioneering Brexiteers wallow, knee deep in our delirious happiness that we won our fabulous Brexit and that you lost your freedom of movement, farms, factories, NHS, democracy and the enthusiastic European labour force needed to power our economy. Get over it Remoaners.
"Those of us who have spent...." The lady protests too much methinks. Michael Gove is an intelligent man who is an interesting thinker with ideas at times of merit - but these statements, even if one says they reflect their times, are repulsive. If Michael Gove does not abjure and apologise sincerely for such abhorrent statements, then he should he sacked.
They do not reflect the thinking of intelligent people of the time. Any child knows racism and classism is wrong. He is a reflection of Cambridge of the time which speaks vilumes.
Laura Trott talking about not judging people for their past mistakes. You know if this were a Labour MP who’d made these comments in their younger days, she’d be all over it condemning them and demanding they be dismissed.
I think the problem lies in the British educational system where the Eton and Harrow boys are conditioned to a point they actually believe themselves they are in a way superior to the rest and therefore other rules apply to them.
Laura Trott needs to educate and inform herself as to what Gove said and did. The speech extracts have been broadcast and published. She has no excuse for not doing so. A blanket stonewalling isn't good enough. Gove should explain himself, and repudiate his statements of opinion.
just shows how messed up the UK is. All following the same path - private school into oxbridge, into elite journalism and into the top of conservative party - this how leaders are developed in the UK.
Gove would have been around 26 in 1993. So not some teenage foolishness, then, as will no doubt be claimed. Nadia Whitthome is currently the youngest MP. She was 23 when elected and is 25 now. Mhairi Black was 20 when she was elected and is 27 now. Owen Paterson is 65. Does that get him off or is being a Tory the trick?
@Ayy Leeuz I've seen only the trashiest of speculation that Michael Gove is bi or gay, nothing to which I would lend a crumb of credence. He may be, but there is no information to that effect.
It was Gove who back in the 90s also suggested putting the numbers of HIV cases in a town on the signposts on motorways so that drivers would know where HIV was rife.
It could be instructive to think how the panellists would have reacted if there were recordings of Greta Thunberg, Gerry Adams, Jeremy Corbyn or Nicola Sturgeon saying exactly the same things.
Let’s not forget that Diane Abbott sided with the IRA against the UK government, and has refused to apologise. The most you can get out of her is that it was 30 years ago, alluding that she is a different person now. If she can do it, can others not?
@@lorenzobianchini4415 Ah, perhaps you don’t understand the context. Diane Abbott stated that every time the IRA conducted one of their terrorist bombings, it was a victory for everyone against the UK government. She said this while an MP. She should have resigned right there, and then. But instead she has held on to her seat, and any attack against her has been swatted away as racist. Even though she her herself has made very racist comments. She is a race baiting traitor without shame, or a moral compass.
@@hobanagerik I understand the comment clearly and disagree with your most recent one She is elected by her constituents with a massive majority. I need say no more.
@@lorenzobianchini4415 Yes, that doesn’t say a lot for her constituents, sadly. Condoning murder, or rather happy to re-elect someone who condones murder. Even now neither she, nor Corbyn can bring themselves to criticise the IRA. She does have her upsides though. She all but guarantees that Labour won’t ever see power again, and for that we can all be thankful for. If she ran for the Labour leadership, I’d back her. 😂
@@hobanagerik I am not a Labour supporter and moral conscience disallows me from supporting the most corrupt Conservative government in history.I would never ever vote Consrvative who are evil personified as far as am concened
Tory there, giving it the old "we can't be judged on our old mistakes". So, somewhere between being a teenage turd and being a grown turd he suddenly became an ally to gays, poc, and women? Yeah, RIGHT
And yet people get cancelled for perceived racist/sexist/offensive tweets they made years ago and maybe in different contexts. Why are these politicians above such things? 🙄
Quel surprise! Gove, a pantomime toff, showing his prejudices. If we can just think of him as “less than”, he will be more palatable when he is dispatched, cooked and eaten.
What's important to note here is that I don't think anyone regardless of their opinion on the man now is surprised by this. It doesn't matter anyway he's a tory and racism doesn't usually threaten your political career when you're on the conservative right.
Designed as jokes? The Cambridge Union as some kind of stand-up show? Designed to be provocative, yes. The cries of 'shame' make clear that Gove was trying to make people angry be being as obnoxious as possible. Why would someone want to behave like that, other than to make a name for himself?
Gove is a Northerner surely, or is Scotland now in the channel islands. His comments reveal the Tory attitude to the North of England, they must be insane (the Tories).
So Michael Goves own despicable crew have turned on him. The pricks outlived his usefulness. His recent strange solo-escapade at the Scottish night club was just the start of it.....
This could have been released anytime, why now, is the question that needs asked. Could this be a hatchet job by someone who sees him as a competitor to be next PM.
That's how they deal with old news. Like saying Saville is history and not relevant anymore so brush it under the carpet. Then on to the next disaster like Bashir.
In debating societies, participants are often called on to speak for viewpoints that do not necessarily align with their own true position. Arguing for ideas that you actually object to is intended to test and develop your debating skills. This is what Damian is driving at. I don't think this gets Gove off the hook, though. There was no need to use such vile condescending language, even if he was talking against his own viewpoints, and I'm not convinced he was at all.
The same Michael Gove who, as Education Secretary introduced a rule that any teacher who was found to have taken drugs would be struck off and then when it emerged during the leadership campaign that he himself had taken drugs remarked that 'no person should be defined by their worst mistake.' A hypocrite of the highest order.
A Tory behaving like a ….. Tory. How is this news?
I thought it was part of the interview examination. 🤨
Oh I'm sure Gove no longer holds those despicable views that led him to become a member of the Conservative party.
@@candyman5912 Thats why he's not Chancellor anymore.
@@candyman5912 hahahah
The Gent.........Do you think behaving like a scumbag is the preserve of Tories?
Well if an old Tweet can be used to hurt a persons future employment now , then why shouldn't an old recording hurt a Tory MPs future position especially someone as loathsome as old Michael 'POB' Gove .
im glad someone else sees his likeness to pob
Because you are pleb and he is not.
Accept it. If you haven't notice that in 21century you still have royals.
@@kanedNunable check out spitting image the resemblance to a certain appendage is alarminglying accurate 🤣
@@ConstructiveMinds100 True but believe me not by most peoples choice , bring on the republic.
@@kanedNunable me too! I thought I was the only one!
I firmly believe that bigots don’t change their deep-seated prejudices, they just get good at masking them. Gove simply looks like a horrible c, trust your eyes. Angela Rayner was spot on, she had nothing to apologise for.
People can change ...but frankly not seeing it with gove...I am surprised there isn't more stuff like this out there
BIGOT, HYPOCRITE, HES GUILTY OF EVERYTHING HE BLAMES OTHERS OF.
@des hewitt yea labourites are commies
So basically this will make Micheal Gove the most electable Tory once Johnson goes for the Gammonati.
@Ayy Leeuz he also loves the chang.
@Ayy Leeuz Oh my! It explains a lot being a closet gay, hating and loathing himself thus reflecting that hate on those open guy because he hasn’t the courage! What a despicable and sad little man!
"Those of us who've spent hours in New York bath-houses"? The mere thought of gurner Gove cruising the corridors in nowt but a skimpy towel is enough to turn a gay man straight.
Thank you for that. 🤣😂, it made my day!!
That's why they're called the nasty party. fuzzy wuzzies in the 1880's, maybe a free pass but not the 1980's?
Gove is still in the closet for sure
Maybe for the blind he is... Not for anyone with a little bit of gaydar.
"A master of dexterity at the cottage upright?"🤮
A closet "fuzzie wuzzie"??
Along with many alleged Skeletons
He so far in the closet he's in f***ing Narnia.
30 years ago, but when I was growing up I was always told, "A leopard never changes its spots."
"It was a different time" We talk of the 80s and 90s as if it was the 17th or 18th Centuary. It was not acceptable then let alone now.. Only people who spoke like this was the National Front, the Ignorant and students at one of the Oxbridge elite universities. So this is what an Oxbrifge education gives you! Clearly his belifes hasn't stopped his career.
Please don't say sorry I've changed. 1. Sorry is not a word to be used when you get caught out and used as a free pass or get out card. 2. No one changes those opinions or belifes so radically even with a eureka moment no matter how many years.
As they say Dillon by name Dillon by nature 😎
Bullshit on that. 80s and now are like 2 different worlds. And yes people can change their minds radically.
That said he is a tw*t, no doubt about that.
@@andyhoward940 You know what they say, If you don't have anything relevant to say then say nothing...
@@bikerslow2598 Bullshit back at yeah! Maybe you have personal experience of this but I haven't. I totally disagree, I've never met a racist make a 90 degree change. Same with homophobia and sexism they just become more careful in their comments in public but behind 'closed door' there still the same . Once a sexist, racist, homophobe always maybe less homsphobe, racist and sexist but it's still there.
@@alandillon968 Yes this was racist talk even back in the 80’s, anybody say otherwise where either one themselves or to high on coke at that time. But it’s totally possible to make that U-turn, here in Sweden there’s been a couple of those, buuut those has been very outspoken about their change of heart often turning against that culture by working against racism. Clearly Gove hasn’t done either and that tells enough, he still is a bastard and a racist in the core!
Nothing sticks to the Teflon Tories. Let's all vote them back in again at the next opportunity.
As library Red-Band in the Nick.
Let's not
I'm intending to do just that snowflake
@@andyhoward940 That's really impressive. What other non-snowflake things can you do to damage your prospects and those of everyone else? I'm sure everyone's in awe of you.
@@Fordnan 🛎 end
And again...the 'words-shouldn't-be-taken-out-of-context' argument raises its slippery head. This is pure sophistry.
What possible context would make these recorded insults - made in such a denigrating tone - by Michael Gove morally acceptable?
Precisely! Was Gove forced to make these comments?
The context of an audience of similar mind who like to kick homeless people to death under bridges and burn £50 notes in front of tramps Perfectly acceptable.
Different morality is one obvious answer to your question.
Well. In context, It could have been sarcastic irony ... but the tone of voice would have been different. It could have been provocative, ... The tone of voice however sounds serious. This was a speech in a familiar setting for him. It makes you wonder how bigotted the mentality of this type of person really is. 🤔
@@highdownmartin That pretty well puts it in a nutshell.
Bigotry at it's best from michael 'we had enough of experts' gove.
Laura Trott saying she did many stupid things when she was younger, now in her more mature years she just says stupid things eh.
How old is he here in his 30s. Not like he was some dumb student
He was at Oxford same time as one of my school friends so would have been 22 or 23 in 1987
@@juliejeavons6949 still not a dumb teenager though.
@@miamitten1123 like you were !
@Ayy Leeuz wow ! Free speech don't sit well with you lefties does it , someone expressed an opinion 35 years ago and now needs to 'suffer' what does the Marxist handbook suggest , Death ? Public flogging ?
@@andyhoward940 Why are you bothered by somebody expressing themselves if you're so pro freedom of speech?
1987...sounds more like 1887. They will now refer to 1987 as if it was 1887 in order proclaim that it was a very different time. It wasn't.
Lol
'It was a joke' I am so sick of hearing this excuse if it was a joke why was there no laughter?
Most leftists are too busy being offended to laugh
Haven’t seen any posts from you in a whileeeee ! Good to see you back x
Only posts when the blood starts boiling...
he's been a bit more active on Twitter, tho
I wouldn't judge someone on what they were like 30 years ago, but its not as if Gove is a changed man, I would say more dangerous now as he in power
Perhaps as a public servant, Laura Trott should enlighten us on the things she doesn’t want to be judged on now..
She literally dug herself a massive sink hole right there. It’s a shame there were no astute Journalists in the room to press her on it.
"Those of us who've spent hours in New York bath houses will realise that you can pack in 15 loving relationships and 300 one night stands and still be none the worse for wear." I'm still trying to fathom the "those of US" part...
Maybe he was talking about the English people as a whole when he said _"a bunch of fuzzywuzzies who can't look after themselves"_ and about his dear leader when he talked about _"300 one night stands"._
👍👍👍😂
@des hewitt An old colonial era racist name for Africans or even Melanesian peoples like Fijians or Papuans who have curly hair.
@@SirAntoniousBlock fuzzy wuzzy was a line from Dad's Army. Get your facts right before you go off on a lefty tantrum
@@wodens-hitman1552 Is that where you get your historical information from, Dad's Army? 😂
No wonder your country is so fucked up.
@@wodens-hitman1552 "a soldier's nickname for the typical Sudanese warrior, from his method of dressing his hair; hence as a slang term for a coloured native of other countries, such as Fiji and New Guinea" (Oxford English Dictionary)
"Be sure your sins will find you out" ~ Dot Cotton
We fuzzy wizzes we’re dam fine living in harmony with nature and our environment unit a declaration was made to take our resources, our wealth peoples and territories.
Hes all israel aint he, they all are, dont give a shit about this country
@@mightyobserver9899 Exactly
@@lamueldagon7618 i got nothing against gay people, its the hypocricey of these people that gets on my nerves, they are all satanists in my opinion.
He definitely wants f-ing off,in my opinion this shows him in is true light
Fuzzy-wuzzies was used by Clive Dunn on Dad's Army to describe a very specific group of warriors as I understand it.
It's what the British soldier called the Hadendowa or Beja of Sudan as they teased their hair out. They were powerful warriors. Kipling wrote a poem about them.
You know that Gove was not referring to that specific group of warriors.
Time to sack the government.
There’s no context to justify racist speech. Please!
Same the shite policemen sacked and exposed for his past
I cannot believe what I have just heard! One commentator said they were "jokes"! WTF! they were just so offensive, unbelievable!
Leftists usually do find everything offensive. thats why nobody takes you seriously anymore
@@wodens-hitman1552 You think?
They never put it into 'context' when they were smearing Jeremy Corbyn.
Next PM for sure now.
The true colours of the Gov? These are the sort of comments I would expect from the ERG Party.
Laura Trott argues that you can’t judge an old racist? Wow…
Love the way our Damian leads with a nice bit of 'it was a different time'
It was a different time, markedly. Didn't you know ?
@@patrickwalsh6873 Yeah, you can't get away with anything these days, eh guv?
@@BillOdyssey 'These days'? Odd that you think thirty years ago is 'these days', when your uber-wokeness creates the impression of you being about fifteen years old, at most.
Love the way you condescend to people you think aren't half as clever as yourself, by addressing them as your social inferior...GUV.
@@patrickwalsh6873 Tell you wot guv, I had that Enoch Powell in the back of me cab once. Verry intelligent man
@@BillOdyssey Indeed he was.
And not only intelligent, but also right on important matters.
Prescient, in fact.
Sad to say, too much of Britain is a multicultural shithole.
I mean... Savile Town. LOL
Far from multicultural though it may be, it's not monocultural in a good way.
LOL
Nobody can ever change. They will always be what the were. It is just more difficult to maintain a facade, in the beginning, but finally it becomes easier. Gove is what he was as a student and he will never change.
"Nobody can ever change". Is that off the top of your own head, or are you quoting one of history's great yet forgotten minds? Strangely, I googled it, and nothing came up.
@@GreenMorningDragonProductions Huh?
@@verybiased907 why did he need to 'Google' that?
@@bonosbones Some people do weird things. I will let them be......
300?! I'm coming up short. Must be old age. But let's face it, a guy that ugly at that age would be lucky to have one a year.
The Slimy Gove seems to be have suggested that he has spent enough time in bath houses to have witnessed homosexual behaviour closely enough to have catalogued it. Is there something we should know?
So you can run but you can't hide - even if you are Gove!!!!
a Leopard cannot change its spots no matter how hard it tries
Funny how Jeremy corbyn wasn't allowed the old it was 30 years ago routine... simply put he was of an age where he should apologies himself but these are toxic views and his brexit rhetoric seems to support this
While you snivelling Remoaners are complaining about every tiny little hic-up of Brexit that appears in the news, like a few pigs being chucked in the dumpster or a slight shortage of urgent blood tests, sewage flavoured happy fish or a Welsh port closing down etc. etc. etc., us heroic patriotic Brexit supporting farmers, fishermen and our courageous Brexiteer carworker brothers in Swindon are reaping the magnificent benefits of the fantastic success of our glorious Brexit triumph and we can now drag our perfect English knuckles on our uneven English pavements and mouth breathe all over the place, as maskless as we like.
Why can't you just let us true blue pioneering Brexiteers wallow, knee deep in our delirious happiness that we won our fabulous Brexit and that you lost your freedom of movement, farms, factories, NHS, democracy and the enthusiastic European labour force needed to power our economy. Get over it Remoaners.
@@alexanderromanov737 you got me for a few seconds :)
I don't think JC did anything wrong 30 years ago, did he?
Really? Both he, and Diane Abbott use that excuse now over their siding with the IRA. Don’t be a hypocrite.
@@alexanderromanov737 Brilliant
"Those of us who have spent...." The lady protests too much methinks. Michael Gove is an intelligent man who is an interesting thinker with ideas at times of merit - but these statements, even if one says they reflect their times, are repulsive. If Michael Gove does not abjure and apologise sincerely for such abhorrent statements, then he should he sacked.
They do not reflect the thinking of intelligent people of the time. Any child knows racism and classism is wrong. He is a reflection of Cambridge of the time which speaks vilumes.
Leave intelligent out of it and the fact you even brought it up clearly shows you hardly know the meaning of the word
Laura Trott talking about not judging people for their past mistakes. You know if this were a Labour MP who’d made these comments in their younger days, she’d be all over it condemning them and demanding they be dismissed.
Clearly she also has something to hide. The subject matter has pricked her nerves and I suspect she's had the same views at some point
The mainstream media quickly forgot about this.
I think the problem lies in the British educational system where the Eton and Harrow boys are conditioned to a point they actually believe themselves they are in a way superior to the rest and therefore other rules apply to them.
Laura Trott needs to educate and inform herself as to what Gove said and did. The speech extracts have been broadcast and published. She has no excuse for not doing so. A blanket stonewalling isn't good enough. Gove should explain himself, and repudiate his statements of opinion.
Thirty years ago even I knew that sort of stuff would be vile, phobic vitriol. Gove is a revolting human being - don't go giving him passes.
just shows how messed up the UK is. All following the same path - private school into oxbridge, into elite journalism and into the top of conservative party - this how leaders are developed in the UK.
Would you prefer it if CHAV'S running the country then?
This will probably get him elected.
Gove would have been around 26 in 1993. So not some teenage foolishness, then, as will no doubt be claimed. Nadia Whitthome is currently the youngest MP. She was 23 when elected and is 25 now. Mhairi Black was 20 when she was elected and is 27 now. Owen Paterson is 65. Does that get him off or is being a Tory the trick?
@Ayy Leeuz I've seen only the trashiest of speculation that Michael Gove is bi or gay, nothing to which I would lend a crumb of credence. He may be, but there is no information to that effect.
Is this why he seems to be in hiding.....
This sort of thing will only make English voters love him more.
Wow. A shitty thing to say. Oh the irony.
He made joke of Northers. They’d be foolish vote for him.
@Ben Parkes For the Scots he is just an outsider that happens by some fluke of history to govern them
I always considered Gove to be gay.
Like most of his mates, surplus to all requirements.
Creepy Gove
It's bred into them, there is no excuse for Torys.
Homophobic Slurs? It is a bit rich coming from Gove who is definitely a Homosexual.
Mike Gove is from Scotland he is not English guess, he was calling north of England the local council boys in Manchester or Liverpool fuzzy fuzzy
It was Gove who back in the 90s also suggested putting the numbers of HIV cases in a town on the signposts on motorways so that drivers would know where HIV was rife.
It could be instructive to think how the panellists would have reacted if there were recordings of Greta Thunberg, Gerry Adams, Jeremy Corbyn or Nicola Sturgeon saying exactly the same things.
@@williamdew7143 When you say "NO", I guess you mean for you it would not be instructive to think.
Without fantasising I can easily imagine that.
@@williamdew7143 What’s good for the goose ……
Wasn`t that when Gove was high all the time. He will blame the drugs no doubt!
Seems like M.Gove is well orientated when to comes to what activities are in progress, in public lavatories.
The Great British Education.
Tories really are just werewolves in pinstriped suites
Let’s not forget that Diane Abbott sided with the IRA against the UK government, and has refused to apologise. The most you can get out of her is that it was 30 years ago, alluding that she is a different person now.
If she can do it, can others not?
Why should she.?
@@lorenzobianchini4415 Ah, perhaps you don’t understand the context. Diane Abbott stated that every time the IRA conducted one of their terrorist bombings, it was a victory for everyone against the UK government. She said this while an MP. She should have resigned right there, and then. But instead she has held on to her seat, and any attack against her has been swatted away as racist. Even though she her herself has made very racist comments. She is a race baiting traitor without shame, or a moral compass.
@@hobanagerik I understand the comment clearly and disagree with your most recent one
She is elected by her constituents with a massive majority. I need say no more.
@@lorenzobianchini4415 Yes, that doesn’t say a lot for her constituents, sadly. Condoning murder, or rather happy to re-elect someone who condones murder. Even now neither she, nor Corbyn can bring themselves to criticise the IRA.
She does have her upsides though. She all but guarantees that Labour won’t ever see power again, and for that we can all be thankful for. If she ran for the Labour leadership, I’d back her. 😂
@@hobanagerik I am not a Labour supporter and moral conscience disallows me from supporting the most corrupt Conservative government in history.I would never ever vote Consrvative who are evil personified as far as am concened
Really wish we had media that wouldn't accept 'I haven't seen this thing that you've just explained to me' as an answer.
Fuzzy wussies is bad but is no one gonna mention the derogatory remarks about those from the north of England and of gay people?
They’re mentioning it all on the news love
Has somebody drawn a Adolf Chaplin / Charlie Hitler mustache on Goves 1987 photo or is it for real?
Gove is really loyal to Johnson. He was his rock when he went for the leadership of the Tory party. Loyal to a fault.
Tory is Tory. Breaking news.
Michael Gove just was making a point about himself, never about others.
Reptile! Shocking that this was acceptable then.
Spitting Image is going to have a field day with this little bit of news!!
And a cricketer is being castigated for racial banter!
How was this back in September and I've only heard about it now 😳
30+ years ago get a grip
@@jimelsey2381 september that this story broke
Tory there, giving it the old "we can't be judged on our old mistakes". So, somewhere between being a teenage turd and being a grown turd he suddenly became an ally to gays, poc, and women? Yeah, RIGHT
And yet people get cancelled for perceived racist/sexist/offensive tweets they made years ago and maybe in different contexts. Why are these politicians above such things? 🙄
Surely the Tories having nothing but contempt for the north, minorities & women is far from being a secret?
Even other tories can't stand Gove, their nickname for him is "Oikey".
Vile man.
So he’s a typical Tory
It's OK. He's allowed to. He's a Tory.
The REAL Alan B"stard!
Barely surprised….Leopards don’t change their spots.
No surprises a Tory prerequisite.
Quel surprise! Gove, a pantomime toff, showing his prejudices. If we can just think of him as “less than”, he will be more palatable when he is dispatched, cooked and eaten.
Let us reflect on two words and their exact meaning: the 1st is 'Stupid', and the 2nd is "Pragmatism'.
Need I say more?
Gove is Corporal Jones from Dad's Army "Fuzzywuzzies""
To me, Gove is the slimiest of this 'Parcel of Rogues'
What's important to note here is that I don't think anyone regardless of their opinion on the man now is surprised by this. It doesn't matter anyway he's a tory and racism doesn't usually threaten your political career when you're on the conservative right.
Could Laura Trott say that again in English, I wonder.
He needs to be asked the question as I think that he has not responded to this accusation and actually needs to be definitely for the record asked
anything publicly homophobic is going to come back to bite him in the years ahead...
"It may be moral to keep an empire because the fuzzy-wuzzies can't look after themselves."
What did we rule? Teletubbyland?
Designed as jokes? The Cambridge Union as some kind of stand-up show? Designed to be provocative, yes. The cries of 'shame' make clear that Gove was trying to make people angry be being as obnoxious as possible. Why would someone want to behave like that, other than to make a name for himself?
Gove is a Northerner surely, or is Scotland now in the channel islands. His comments reveal the Tory attitude to the North of England, they must be insane (the Tories).
Unfortunately there is a chance he is referring to the Scots.
Plenty of unionists proudly detest Scotland, and Gove is openly one of them.
Colour me shocked
300 one night stands in ONE NIGHT??? Impressive! 😀
Respect! The poppers must have been on special offer.
Brexit and Tory voters: Yeah, so what? We say all of those on a Tuesday.
So Michael Goves own despicable crew have turned on him. The pricks outlived his usefulness. His recent strange solo-escapade at the Scottish night club was just the start of it.....
Probably
This could have been released anytime, why now, is the question that needs asked. Could this be a hatchet job by someone who sees him as a competitor to be next PM.
….didn’t reflect his views? What a jerk.
Why is Damian Grammaticas trying to justify the remarks by saying it was 30 years ago and it was during a debate. Where is the context in that?
That's how they deal with old news. Like saying Saville is history and not relevant anymore so brush it under the carpet. Then on to the next disaster like Bashir.
In debating societies, participants are often called on to speak for viewpoints that do not necessarily align with their own true position. Arguing for ideas that you actually object to is intended to test and develop your debating skills. This is what Damian is driving at.
I don't think this gets Gove off the hook, though. There was no need to use such vile condescending language, even if he was talking against his own viewpoints, and I'm not convinced he was at all.