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PLEASE do one on Corpse Bride as a metaphor for marrying after your spouse dies - like Emily really was Victor's first love, the movie opens with him painting a blue butterfly, and she and Victoria are so different but both perfect for him. We aren't supposed to forget the dead, everyone celebrates when they recognize them at the wedding, and he's supposed to honor his dead wife (Emily) but it's wrong for him (or Victoria) to refuse to remarry since they have living love and both their spouses are dead
@@hannahbrennan2131 That's exactly what I mean, probably the only movie/franchise where both Johnny Depp and Helena acted but it's not a Tim Burton film
Back in the 90s he was considered too weird. Nowadays he might have a better chance, but sadly basically everyone agrees (at least i have never heard of anyone saying differently) that his movies nowadays a far from his prime. In my opinion, he and Caroline Thompson should have won Best Original Screenplay for Edward Scissorhands
@@benbrennan4953 not mainstream? really? he makes Disney remakes. what is more mainstream than that? If you think Burton is not mainstream, you need to watch more variety cinema sweetheart
He's not fond of musicals, you know. He did Sweeney Todd because Helena wanted to star in a musical film and be Mrs Lovett. Look at most of his films. "Musical" does not represent your average TB film.
@@TheNotverysocial but music is always absurdly important for his work, it's not a coincidence that a vast majority of his movies feature the same composer. He cares deeply about using music as a narrative tool - whether it is in actual musicals like The Chocolate Factory and Sweeney Todd or just helping establish the tone as in Edward and Pee Wee. I don't think he is opposed to directing another musical or adapting Addams Family with less diegetic music.
@@mariaah3073 I never denied Danny Elfman's heavy involvement in writing the scores from most movies, save Sondheim's Sweeney Todd. But beyond instrumentation, he rarely directs actual musical films with lyrical songs in them, as he doesn't like them very much, as he clearly said in the interviews for ST, so says Helena to whom the film was a favor for. I think it would take her or Johnny to get him to do another one. Unless they are involved, he would likely turn it down or try to avoid making it another musical.
And Winona Ryder is in it as well. I feel like every time he comes up with an idea he asks all of them if they can be in it and he takes whoever is available
Likewise, it's like a "Choose your Own Character". "Beetlejuice"? I was Lydia. "Edward Scissorhands"? Edward, sometimes Kim. "Nightmare before Christmas"? Sally. Frankenweenie? Victor and Sparky The list goes on!😅
Danny Elfman really deserved more than an offhand mention when talking about casting. He's as important to the success of Tim Burton's movies, as John Williams is important to Steven Spielberg. Especially in the more emotional moments.
No, he's not, watch a Tim Burton film with the sound down, it makes no difference, the same emotion and feelings are there, anyone could have done it, Howard shore would have done the same job, but I am glad its Elfman he is a genius, Elfman's other films he scored are not as memorable like the frighteners, no-one cares, he gets commercial props for the Simpsons but that's it, John Williams, eats him alive but it is Tim burtons imagery 100% please don't get it twisted
There is something about Tim Burton film's aesthetic that speak to my soul since I was a very little kid. My mom told me that when I was less than a year and still in the playpen, I love watching Edward's scissorhands that ran on a cable TV very often during that time (I was born 94). And when I became 3-4 years old this time I remember that I love watching nightmare before Christmas, it is the first film that I watch an entire film from the beginning until its very end. when I was a kid I didn't care or know who direct these films or pretend to like it because someone said it's cool. I really like them because I like them. Thorough out years my favorite movies are corps bride, alice in wonderland, dark shadow, big fish etc. mainly because the vibe these movies are giving.
I dont care if people look down on me for saying this, but tim burton is my favorite director. I just love staring at his films, they are so beautiful to me
+Anita “The Dick” Sarkeesian Oh, please! The only time he could be considered the way you portrayed him (like the hater you are) is with the live-action Disney remakes (I can’t mean live-action remakes in general because Sleepy Hollow, Sweeney Todd and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory are pretty freakin’ awesome)!
PLEASE do one on Corpse Bride as a metaphor for marrying after your spouse dies - like Emily really was Victor's first love, the movie opens with him painting a blue butterfly, and she and Victoria are so different but both perfect for him. We aren't supposed to forget the dead, everyone celebrates when they recognize them at the wedding, and he's supposed to honor his dead wife (Emily) but it's wrong for him (or Victoria) to refuse to remarry since they have living love and both their spouses are dead
Mark Anthony Sangalang huh, there was also a graveyard near my old school. We once went to do a math practice by taking the dates people had died, each duo counting a road. It was pretty but also sad, there was a grave that only had one date because the baby died shortly after being born.
I completely understand the cemetary thing. Even as a child cemeteries were only scary in movies. In real life, to me, they have always been peacful and even comforting.
The ones more aimed at children aren’t that bad or scary aside from Charlie and the chocolate and wonderland in my opinion which are somewhat disturbing and I’d say the same for the home for percular children to some degree. The adult movies are somewhat scary I guess like Sweeny Todd and sleepy hallow to some degree scary but not that much. I’d say that batman 89 is scary more for younger children because Nicholson’s joker is creepy for everyone.
I didn't know that Tim Burton normally had a lo budget until this video. Some of his older stuff like Bettlejuice isn't the best special effects but it stills holds up surprisingly well in some moments. He is one of the few people who make movies just because he loves the ideas and has so much passion behind it and I think that is why his movies are great and why people love them it's not just for money
DON'T YOU DARE SPEAK ILL OF BEETLEJUICE. also your right, but the rest of the film totally amazing, even the ...*clears throat* raunchy parts... and f-bomb
@@Abby-vs9un I was not trying to speak ill of Bettlejuice because I love that movie. I was just saying some of the quality is not the best compared to today but the did the best they could at that time
big fish is so good. i don't actually know if its underrated or not but none of my friends or family have seen it, except my mom, who showed it to me in the first place.
If you want the difference between Tim Burton and Henry Selick, Selick's horror isn't combined with childlike wonder. Selick makes films that are often harrowing but majestic.
You Know It's a Tim Burton Film IF... . 0:09 - It's Burtonesque . 2:39 - It's set in a Gothic Suburbia . 4:01 - The protagonist is a misunderstood outcast . 6:11 - It looks like a Tim Burton film . 7:27 - It has the nightmare face . 7:35 - There's a dark blonde . 8:08 - It's a kids' movie... That's too scary for kids. . 8:46 - It's through a child's eyes . 10:19 - It's a low-budget blockbuster . 12:06 - The past is haunting . 14:24 - There's a character-defining symbolic object . 15:52 - You recognise the cast . 16:25 - It's an adaption with a twist . 16:45 - It plays on fairy-tale character types . 18:40 - There's a found family . 18:53 - It has emotional range I counted 16, am I missing anything?
@@MarkFilipAnthony What's Betelgeuse based on? His stop motion films are clearly inspired by Halloween and Day of the Dead, Corpse Bride especially, but those aren't novels or TV series, so anyone can use them if they wish. But what about the first film I mentioned?
I think you should have explored more the fact that he tends to work with the same people. It seems to me that he is always working with his friends. Couple that with the low budget and the child-like aspects you mentioned earlier, and it almost seems like a kid doing movies in his house with all his friends
Ah, yes, Tim Burton movies are just the ticket for a quirky, introspective watch, especially at Halloween. 🎃"Beetlejuice" and "Edward Scissorhands" were always key favourites, as much like Lydia, "I myself was strange and unusual". 👻💀
Fun fact when I first watched Charlie and the Chocolate factory when I was 4 my assumption at hearing the disturbing line, "Even I'm edible." was not that it was cannibalism. I'm not sure I even knew what cannbalism was then. No my first thought was "Willy Wonka is made of candy." like after living in a candy factory for so many years he somehow became candy, and that if I ate him I would taste choclate or butterscotch not human flesh. It sounds disgusting and gross hearing that now that I'm an adult, but honestly it wouldn't be impossible in a Burton film, and that's what I love about Burton he captures a child's love for the strange, unusal, and sometimes even profane. 2 things I also beileved as a child; that if I flushed the toilet a sewer monster would come out and eat me, and that if you drank lemonade without sugar your face would turn into sour frown permantely.
I always watch Corpse Bride every Halloween! Awesome analysis of the one and only Tim Burton!! I’ve always related to his movies or characters, and maybe it’s because it’s completely different than anything anyone has done.
reecord2 well technically Roald Dahl's family agrees with you up to a certain point - I can't remember where I read this, I believe in one of the anniversary editions of the book, but they mention Burton visiting Roald Dahl's family (since they were very hesitant to allow anyone else to touch the material due to the extreme disagreements he had over the original), yet as soon as Burton walked into Roald Dahl's writing shed he proclaimed "my God it's the bucket house!" to which Dahl's family immediately thought, "he gets it he really gets it!" which is why they let him touch the material in the first place. I *do not* know how happy they would have been about the dentist father storyline he added since one of the main things that upset Roald Dahl about the original was them changing things(and the way) Willy Wonka said and acted which is why he essentially included in his will that no one was ever allowed to make a film adaptation of the sequel Great Glass Elevator.
Talking about the outcast protagonists in his movies, I think, The Penguin from Batman Returns should be mentionend, as well. Even though Batman is the titular main character of that movie, it's actually The Penguin looking for answers about himself, but also for acceptance of society.
Shaun M a lot of people mistakenly believed that Addams Family -(the Christina Ricci as Wednesday Addams version) and Addams Family Values were done by Tim Burton or that he at least had a hand in it. (Ironically furthered by the fact that she was later in Sleepy Hollow YEARS later)
Lark_ Lore I'm sad to say I haven't had a chance to see the new version of it yet, especially as a huge "Chaz" Addams fan, (and of Chloë Grace Moretz - The "moody" teenage daughter from Tim Burton's Dark Shadows, and voice of Wednesday in the latest incarnation) Your idea is great but it took them between approximately three years to make Nightmare (once it was finally approved) - and they started work on Corpse Bride in 2003 and it didn't release until fall of 2005 (and that is after Burton and his team won the argument/convinced the studio to let them use digital cameras to take the pictures instead of traditional film snapshots) which is why it was done so much faster. As for my not seeing Addams Family... It's is ultra ironic because I ended up finding out about the film being in production before any official press-releases. I blew up newsfeeds with *every* update IMDB had about casting and the *very first* - potentially leaked trailer - almost a year in advance. Then because of a series of crappy events, my advance tickets were stolen. ***Please don't ruin it for me!*** I swear I will be more hardcore than game of thrones fans about spoiling the final season!
Orionsend I haven't seen it either, haven't been all looped up into what I can only name as the decade of remake nonsense. I do know all the hard work it takes to make stop motion films and how long, like Coraline or Kubo. I just love watching the finished product it gives such a great personality to them.
Lark_ Lore if you enjoy stop motion get your hands on a physical copy of ParaNorman. If you aren't familiar with the story/plot - you will genuinely enjoy it. Even if you are you can try your local library or Redbox to get ahold of a DVD (luckily my library has a copy) - because the stop-motion is *flawless*... It's almost too perfect! The first time I saw the film I honestly thought it was CGI. But the DVD extras are amazing because the people who put it together were *so* meticulous it ~flows~. There are I believe over 10x the amount of frames per second than Nightmare Before Christmas / Corpse Bride! If you see it, watch the artistry behind the making of ParaNorman and like it - please buy it! this company should really stay in business for a long long time! Especially since everybody is doing CGI because it's cheaper/faster than anything else. I enjoy *good* stop motion, but I also miss good old-fashioned artistic hand-drawn animation. Watching the holiday classics that started in the 60's-80's... Made me realize that we aren't going to make anything like that again. Works that transcend age, generations, technological advances, and cultural "development"/change. What was accomplished with the animated How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Charlie Brown, Rudolph (and the various other stop motions made in that time), Nightmare Before, ect... Because CGI is always going to become more advanced and therefore anything made a decade previous is always going to look shabbier and shabbier. This is alsotrue of most live action films (classic Muppets excluded) with any "effects", because it's the same. ---- I think this is why Hollywood is so obsessed with doing remakes - it started with George Lucas "improving" the original Star Wars trilogy by destroying all known original copies (literally - he was buying them for incredibly high amounts on eBay ect to try to "erase" their existence) then releasing them with the newer technologies. So they take a look at films like Pet Sematary and think, "well that was good but there was a lot they didn't show because they couldn't pull it off then..." So they do it again... (PS I have not even bothered to watch the new one. I don't bother watching remakes/reboots unless it's to heckle or if, say it was an adaptation of a novel and the writer was not happy with the first and this time they are including them in the script process.)
He's deeply influenced by Edward Gorey too he's never mentioned it but looking at the art you can see it. I liked his older stuff Vincent is one of my favorite Tim Burton cartoons
Once again I want to go on a Tim Burton film marathon, but, again, I don't know which one to rewatch. I love all of them in such a special way I cannot choose!
I’m so extremely happy you ladies chose to do a Tim Burton video today instead of a Pennywise or Joker one because I am burnt out on that trope this season.
I actually grew up on Tim Burton’s movies and art. His style has frightened me for sure but it’s always been there in the background as something my entire family will sit down together to watch.
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Alice in Wonderland, Alice through the Looking Glass, Sleepy Hollow, Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children Planet of the Apes, James and the Giant Peach are my favourite films by Tim Burton, at least the ones ive watched. James and the Giant Peach was my first Tim Burton film, i felt scared, weirded out, but i absolutely loved it and the feeling of watching it. It really does feel like dream. I always feel so immersed when watching his films, love the characters so much. I am so grateful to be alive during the release of his works, being able to watch and enjoy his films are one of my greatest savouries *Edit* i just realised James and the giant peach is by Henry Selick, who made Coraline as well... I really have a taste for this kinda movies huh. I love Coraline to the level where i learnt its ending song, which lyrics are literal gibberish, not even joking.
I just love tim burton and his work. when I was younger I almost watched coraline,nightmare before Christmas and corpse bride every day. He inspired me to create my own stuff it doesn’t matter how weird or obscure it is
When she was talking about "You recognize the cast" and she was talking about Winona Ryder she forgot Elsa Van Helsing from Frankenweenie, Winona does her voice. :)
Tim Burton has a thing for- High contrast Shadows Dull colors Gothic style Top hats Odd shapes Dreamscape Black & white stripes Stop motion/claymation Pale skin Heavy makeup Outcasts
I love Tim Burton because he reminds me of me. I am always treated like a freak because I love the theorys and ideas of death. I know it sounds morbid but it is fascinating to learn about the ways cultures deal with death because it says a lot about the cultures in general. Not only that but I love the same kind of art style as Tim Burton. Note: Yes I know I kind of went on a mini rant.
No matter how popular he gets I feel like Tim Burton is always a little underrated. Although recently his movies haven’t been as good, but that might be due to the massive budgets and companies and material he’s working with. When he does his own stuff it’s always fantastic.
This is probably the best series on RUclips regarding the diverse style and techniques of filmmaking. Great for the casual fan. Now can we please get one on Scorsese, he's probably the only big name director left untouched
I love this video and all of your observations! You've clearly put a lot of time, talent, and care into this and into your grasp of film that has representations of elements from literature, too. Just one thing, there is no stepmother in 'Alice in Wonderland', that is her mother. She's the stern mother to the indulging whimsical father archetype (serious vs silly) which isn't as much a fairytale trope as it is a hallmark of many writers, particularly those from the UK.
Also those angular spirals. I saw an episode of Faerie Tale Theatre once (the Aladdin episode) and there were angular spirals, and I thought, "Huh. That looks like a Tim Burton thing. Oh well." And then the credits came up... and the episode was directed by Tim Burton.
Nightmare before Xmas and Corpse Bride were some of my favorites and still are. Theyre much more memorable because they're different compared to many other things kids watch.
OMG I am OBSESSED with BEETLEJUICE, BEETLEJUICE, BEETLEJUICE the movie, the series the musical. I love Winona Ryder and Michel Keaton's chemistry as well as Sophia Anne Caruso and Alex Brightman's chemistry it's adorable(the second, not the first) I REALLY want to go see Beetlejuice on Broadway before it closes or if(when) it goes on tour, just to meet the cast and see the show. My life would be complete, ir that happened, but my mom does NOT want to see it and dad's not quite sure.
How AWESOME is this video? I clicked here expecting a "curiosities" list, but what I found was an accurate in-depth analysis of a life's work. Thank you! ^_^
you know it's a Tim Burton movie if the score is by Danny Elfman, the colors are desaturated, Johnny Depp, Helen Bonham Carter and the inclusion mention of death from the past, that happened sometime before the main plot starts or when it's gonna come up soon on the main character or the people around them, friends or enemies
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PLEASE do one on Corpse Bride as a metaphor for marrying after your spouse dies - like Emily really was Victor's first love, the movie opens with him painting a blue butterfly, and she and Victoria are so different but both perfect for him. We aren't supposed to forget the dead, everyone celebrates when they recognize them at the wedding, and he's supposed to honor his dead wife (Emily) but it's wrong for him (or Victoria) to refuse to remarry since they have living love and both their spouses are dead
You know that it’s a Tim burton film when it’s advertised as a kid movie when in reality it should be an 18+ psychological horror movie.
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Do you mean 'psychological'?
For real.
You know it's a Burton film if it stars Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter.
And Winona Ryder or Michael Keaton
Except for Harry Potter! haha
@@MikaMoonlight The Harry Potter movies weren't directed by Tim Burton.
@@hannahbrennan2131 That's exactly what I mean, probably the only movie/franchise where both Johnny Depp and Helena acted but it's not a Tim Burton film
@@MikaMoonlight Ah. I see.
I don't understand why Tim Burton hasn't won an Oscar yet.
Back in the 90s he was considered too weird. Nowadays he might have a better chance, but sadly basically everyone agrees (at least i have never heard of anyone saying differently) that his movies nowadays a far from his prime. In my opinion, he and Caroline Thompson should have won Best Original Screenplay for Edward Scissorhands
He’s not mainstream enough, far from it. That’s why he’s awesome.
Oscars are also bought. If he doesn't spend a lot of money on his movies, I doubt he'd spend money on winning an Oscar.
If i was him I'd take it as a compliment
@@benbrennan4953 not mainstream? really? he makes Disney remakes. what is more mainstream than that? If you think Burton is not mainstream, you need to watch more variety cinema sweetheart
No one :
Not a single soul:
Child Tim Bruton : Ah yes the graveyard a prefect place to think!
Haha, even from a young age, Burton had cemented his trademark quirks which permeates the vast majority of his films!😅👻
Well, it is nice and quiet.
Cemetaries are quiet and usually very beautiful places. I like to read the headstones and look at the trees.
these types of comments are getting old, might be time to move on
It’s a graveyard tho. Of course there’s bunch of souls.
I'm still waiting for the day Tim Burton does a live action Addams Family musical movie. It's just too perfect of an idea.
He's not fond of musicals, you know. He did Sweeney Todd because Helena wanted to star in a musical film and be Mrs Lovett. Look at most of his films. "Musical" does not represent your average TB film.
@@TheNotverysocial but music is always absurdly important for his work, it's not a coincidence that a vast majority of his movies feature the same composer. He cares deeply about using music as a narrative tool - whether it is in actual musicals like The Chocolate Factory and Sweeney Todd or just helping establish the tone as in Edward and Pee Wee. I don't think he is opposed to directing another musical or adapting Addams Family with less diegetic music.
@@mariaah3073 I never denied Danny Elfman's heavy involvement in writing the scores from most movies, save Sondheim's Sweeney Todd. But beyond instrumentation, he rarely directs actual musical films with lyrical songs in them, as he doesn't like them very much, as he clearly said in the interviews for ST, so says Helena to whom the film was a favor for.
I think it would take her or Johnny to get him to do another one. Unless they are involved, he would likely turn it down or try to avoid making it another musical.
And then please have Eva Green be Morticia Addams
I'd love to see him take on The Wizard of Oz too 💜
How can you tell if it is Tim Burton?
Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham carter
The Irish Realist and if Helena Bingham Carter dies
And Winona Ryder is in it as well. I feel like every time he comes up with an idea he asks all of them if they can be in it and he takes whoever is available
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I'd love to see Tim Burton and Guillermo Del Toro work on a project together
I would die
That would be amazing.
The dream team!!
THIS, the power it would hold
They NEED to do this!!!
I’ve always liked Tim Burton’s film’s because I’ve always had a character to relate to.
Likewise, it's like a "Choose your Own Character". "Beetlejuice"? I was Lydia. "Edward Scissorhands"? Edward, sometimes Kim. "Nightmare before Christmas"? Sally. Frankenweenie? Victor and Sparky The list goes on!😅
@Spencer Hastings With that movie, I was usually Emily, occasionally Victor. 👻💍
love his movies😍😍
Danny Elfman really deserved more than an offhand mention when talking about casting. He's as important to the success of Tim Burton's movies, as John Williams is important to Steven Spielberg. Especially in the more emotional moments.
And he was the singing voice of Jack Skellington
Probably because he casts the same people all the time.
Danny and Tim are a match made in heaven
No, he's not, watch a Tim Burton film with the sound down, it makes no difference, the same emotion and feelings are there, anyone could have done it, Howard shore would have done the same job, but I am glad its Elfman he is a genius, Elfman's other films he scored are not as memorable like the frighteners, no-one cares, he gets commercial props for the Simpsons but that's it, John Williams, eats him alive but it is Tim burtons imagery 100% please don't get it twisted
There is something about Tim Burton film's aesthetic that speak to my soul since I was a very little kid. My mom told me that when I was less than a year and still in the playpen, I love watching Edward's scissorhands that ran on a cable TV very often during that time (I was born 94). And when I became 3-4 years old this time I remember that I love watching nightmare before Christmas, it is the first film that I watch an entire film from the beginning until its very end. when I was a kid I didn't care or know who direct these films or pretend to like it because someone said it's cool. I really like them because I like them.
Thorough out years my favorite movies are corps bride, alice in wonderland, dark shadow, big fish etc. mainly because the vibe these movies are giving.
So good
Big Fish is an underrated masterpiece, and Burton's most underrated film.
did you know that miley cyrus was in it?
Pandora unfortunately, yes I did.
Quaintrelle why is that unfortunate
Pandora not a fan of hers
No to mention an amazing musical
I dont care if people look down on me for saying this, but tim burton is my favorite director. I just love staring at his films, they are so beautiful to me
you need to watch more cinema
@@Anita_Dick how do you know if they haven't watched more cinema than you did?
@@mariaah3073 because if they did, they would realise what a copycat and unoriginal burton is.
@@Anita_Dick Why are you here then? Surely you would enjoy watching a different video if you dislike him so much.
+Anita “The Dick” Sarkeesian Oh, please! The only time he could be considered the way you portrayed him (like the hater you are) is with the live-action Disney remakes (I can’t mean live-action remakes in general because Sleepy Hollow, Sweeney Todd and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory are pretty freakin’ awesome)!
PLEASE do one on Corpse Bride as a metaphor for marrying after your spouse dies - like Emily really was Victor's first love, the movie opens with him painting a blue butterfly, and she and Victoria are so different but both perfect for him. We aren't supposed to forget the dead, everyone celebrates when they recognize them at the wedding, and he's supposed to honor his dead wife (Emily) but it's wrong for him (or Victoria) to refuse to remarry since they have living love and both their spouses are dead
NEVER looked at it like that! I love your take on it!
I absolutely adore this movie but I never thought if it that way. Your take is wonderfully brillaint💙.
Corpse Bride was a childhood favorite!!
Ditto, although I was very young when it came out, and the stop motion animation scared me a little!😁😱
oh, too be as young as you :) all his are my adult fav's
I never realized the "dark blonde" characteristic or that most protagonists have that one symbolic object. Thanks, I learned something. :)
I used to go to a graveyard near my school to do my homework. Its a quiet and peaceful place indeed
Mark Anthony Sangalang huh, there was also a graveyard near my old school. We once went to do a math practice by taking the dates people had died, each duo counting a road.
It was pretty but also sad, there was a grave that only had one date because the baby died shortly after being born.
@@mslightbulb that sounds pretty dope actually
Dude, you're a Tim Burton protagonist
Ezel Francisco lmao. That could be a story in itself
I completely understand the cemetary thing. Even as a child cemeteries were only scary in movies. In real life, to me, they have always been peacful and even comforting.
Ive feel the same way as well. I particularly love small town cemetery’s. They are so quiet and have so much history.
YES.
That cannibalism line in Willy Wonka is one of my favorite lines in all of cinema 8:28
Too scary for children? I’ve grown up watching just about every atom Burton movie. All I can say is that they are absolutely brilliant.
The ones more aimed at children aren’t that bad or scary aside from Charlie and the chocolate and wonderland in my opinion which are somewhat disturbing and I’d say the same for the home for percular children to some degree. The adult movies are somewhat scary I guess like Sweeny Todd and sleepy hallow to some degree scary but not that much. I’d say that batman 89 is scary more for younger children because Nicholson’s joker is creepy for everyone.
I didn't know that Tim Burton normally had a lo budget until this video. Some of his older stuff like Bettlejuice isn't the best special effects but it stills holds up surprisingly well in some moments. He is one of the few people who make movies just because he loves the ideas and has so much passion behind it and I think that is why his movies are great and why people love them it's not just for money
DON'T YOU DARE SPEAK ILL OF BEETLEJUICE. also your right, but the rest of the film totally amazing, even the ...*clears throat* raunchy parts... and f-bomb
@@Abby-vs9un I was not trying to speak ill of Bettlejuice because I love that movie. I was just saying some of the quality is not the best compared to today but the did the best they could at that time
@@maem7462 Yeah, I know I was kidding like I said I am obsessed.
big fish is so good. i don't actually know if its underrated or not but none of my friends or family have seen it, except my mom, who showed it to me in the first place.
Alexandria love that movie 😌
Madison Controversial the book is great as well, each “chapter” is a different story and some are really short but others are really long. it’s cool.
Alexandria I didn’t even know there was a book. I’m going to go out and read it now
You know it's Tim Burton film if it's fantastically magically mysteriously dark.
" But that is called cannibalism, my dear children." LMAO
You know its Tim Burton, if Johnny Depp is the lead character and he's pale white lmao
"... and since they never found the body, my client - Tony Tromboni - has been making films under the name Tim Burton ever since!" - Princess Carolyn
Haha, I'd forgotten that quote from Bojack!😆 Hilarious as ever!😊
While watching this video i imagined how the harry potter saga would've looked if directed by Tim Burton😭
If you want the difference between Tim Burton and Henry Selick, Selick's horror isn't combined with childlike wonder. Selick makes films that are often harrowing but majestic.
CORALINE
You Know It's a Tim Burton Film IF...
. 0:09 - It's Burtonesque
. 2:39 - It's set in a Gothic Suburbia
. 4:01 - The protagonist is a misunderstood outcast
. 6:11 - It looks like a Tim Burton film
. 7:27 - It has the nightmare face
. 7:35 - There's a dark blonde
. 8:08 - It's a kids' movie... That's too scary for kids.
. 8:46 - It's through a child's eyes
. 10:19 - It's a low-budget blockbuster
. 12:06 - The past is haunting
. 14:24 - There's a character-defining symbolic object
. 15:52 - You recognise the cast
. 16:25 - It's an adaption with a twist
. 16:45 - It plays on fairy-tale character types
. 18:40 - There's a found family
. 18:53 - It has emotional range
I counted 16, am I missing anything?
I prefer when Tim Burton does his original films and not stuff based on pre existing IPs. 👍
Ip??
Rob Fab Videos
Intellectual property
You know his films are all based in pre exisiting IPs? U just havent seen them
MarkFilipAnthony not true.
@@MarkFilipAnthony What's Betelgeuse based on? His stop motion films are clearly inspired by Halloween and Day of the Dead, Corpse Bride especially, but those aren't novels or TV series, so anyone can use them if they wish. But what about the first film I mentioned?
My favorite Tim Burton movies are Corpse bride, Sleepy Hollow, Edward scissorhands, and nightmare before Christmas
You know it's Tim Burton if characters wear a lot of black eyeliner
@Crow dudee that's so accurate ahaha
I love Tim Burton, his movies are wholesome
Crow lmaooo ok true, I wasn't thinking of that
Ah yes Batman and Batman Returns were totally wholesome
I need a "You know it's Guillermo del Toro if..."
YES PLEASE
When everything looks vaguely familiar to 'The cabinet of Dr. Caligari' (1919)
and Paul Barry animation.
I think you should have explored more the fact that he tends to work with the same people. It seems to me that he is always working with his friends. Couple that with the low budget and the child-like aspects you mentioned earlier, and it almost seems like a kid doing movies in his house with all his friends
Ah, yes, Tim Burton movies are just the ticket for a quirky, introspective watch, especially at Halloween. 🎃"Beetlejuice" and "Edward Scissorhands" were always key favourites, as much like Lydia, "I myself was strange and unusual". 👻💀
Mine too! My mom says when I was a little kid I would watch them all the time and she was so sick of them hahaha
Fun fact when I first watched Charlie and the Chocolate factory when I was 4 my assumption at hearing the disturbing line, "Even I'm edible." was not that it was cannibalism. I'm not sure I even knew what cannbalism was then. No my first thought was "Willy Wonka is made of candy." like after living in a candy factory for so many years he somehow became candy, and that if I ate him I would taste choclate or butterscotch not human flesh. It sounds disgusting and gross hearing that now that I'm an adult, but honestly it wouldn't be impossible in a Burton film, and that's what I love about Burton he captures a child's love for the strange, unusal, and sometimes even profane.
2 things I also beileved as a child; that if I flushed the toilet a sewer monster would come out and eat me, and that if you drank lemonade without sugar your face would turn into sour frown permantely.
You know it's a Tim Burton film if his wife and Johnny Depp are both in it!
My Halloween tradition is to have a Tim Burton movie marathon
Same
YES
I do that on my birthday, but I should do it on my friend's birthday (Halloween) as well. I think she would enjoy that.
Favorite. Director. Ever. 🖤
Fun fact: the tim burton rendition of willy wonka Was more accurate to the book. Yes the original movie was based on a book
I always watch Corpse Bride every Halloween! Awesome analysis of the one and only Tim Burton!! I’ve always related to his movies or characters, and maybe it’s because it’s completely different than anything anyone has done.
I took a quiz and the character I got was Lydia Deetz from BEETLEJUICE, BEETLEJUICE, BEETLEJUICE.
3:15 damn. And I thought I had crazy person hair. This guys on another level.
Look for some screenshots of Eraserhead
No one*
Not a single soul
Child Tim Bruton ; ah yes the graveyard a perfect place to think.....
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I love Lydia's line because it's true but very subtly depressing if you REALLY think about what she is saying.
I prefer Tim Burton's Charlie and The Chocolate Factory over the Gene Wilder one, fight me
reecord2 well technically Roald Dahl's family agrees with you up to a certain point - I can't remember where I read this, I believe in one of the anniversary editions of the book, but they mention Burton visiting Roald Dahl's family (since they were very hesitant to allow anyone else to touch the material due to the extreme disagreements he had over the original), yet as soon as Burton walked into Roald Dahl's writing shed he proclaimed "my God it's the bucket house!" to which Dahl's family immediately thought, "he gets it he really gets it!" which is why they let him touch the material in the first place.
I *do not* know how happy they would have been about the dentist father storyline he added since one of the main things that upset Roald Dahl about the original was them changing things(and the way) Willy Wonka said and acted which is why he essentially included in his will that no one was ever allowed to make a film adaptation of the sequel Great Glass Elevator.
Ya same
Me too, I felt like the Tim Burton one had more depth to it
Burton's version of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was a childhood favourite of mine!!
Talking about the outcast protagonists in his movies, I think, The Penguin from Batman Returns should be mentionend, as well.
Even though Batman is the titular main character of that movie, it's actually The Penguin looking for answers about himself, but also for acceptance of society.
Tim Burton would be perfect for an Addams Family movie.
Shaun M a lot of people mistakenly believed that Addams Family -(the Christina Ricci as Wednesday Addams version) and Addams Family Values were done by Tim Burton or that he at least had a hand in it.
(Ironically furthered by the fact that she was later in Sleepy Hollow YEARS later)
Shaun M that's who I think should've done the newest animated film, he should've done it with stop motion 😍
Lark_ Lore I'm sad to say I haven't had a chance to see the new version of it yet, especially as a huge "Chaz" Addams fan, (and of Chloë Grace Moretz - The "moody" teenage daughter from Tim Burton's Dark Shadows, and voice of Wednesday in the latest incarnation)
Your idea is great but it took them between approximately three years to make Nightmare (once it was finally approved) - and they started work on Corpse Bride in 2003 and it didn't release until fall of 2005 (and that is after Burton and his team won the argument/convinced the studio to let them use digital cameras to take the pictures instead of traditional film snapshots) which is why it was done so much faster.
As for my not seeing Addams Family...
It's is ultra ironic because I ended up finding out about the film being in production before any official press-releases.
I blew up newsfeeds with *every* update IMDB had about casting and the *very first* - potentially leaked trailer - almost a year in advance.
Then because of a series of crappy events, my advance tickets were stolen.
***Please don't ruin it for me!*** I swear I will be more hardcore than game of thrones fans about spoiling the final season!
Orionsend I haven't seen it either, haven't been all looped up into what I can only name as the decade of remake nonsense. I do know all the hard work it takes to make stop motion films and how long, like Coraline or Kubo. I just love watching the finished product it gives such a great personality to them.
Lark_ Lore if you enjoy stop motion get your hands on a physical copy of ParaNorman.
If you aren't familiar with the story/plot - you will genuinely enjoy it.
Even if you are you can try your local library or Redbox to get ahold of a DVD (luckily my library has a copy) - because the stop-motion is *flawless*... It's almost too perfect!
The first time I saw the film I honestly thought it was CGI. But the DVD extras are amazing because the people who put it together were *so* meticulous it ~flows~.
There are I believe over 10x the amount of frames per second than Nightmare Before Christmas / Corpse Bride!
If you see it, watch the artistry behind the making of ParaNorman and like it - please buy it! this company should really stay in business for a long long time!
Especially since everybody is doing CGI because it's cheaper/faster than anything else.
I enjoy *good* stop motion, but I also miss good old-fashioned artistic hand-drawn animation.
Watching the holiday classics that started in the 60's-80's...
Made me realize that we aren't going to make anything like that again. Works that transcend age, generations, technological advances, and cultural "development"/change.
What was accomplished with the animated How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Charlie Brown, Rudolph (and the various other stop motions made in that time), Nightmare Before, ect...
Because CGI is always going to become more advanced and therefore anything made a decade previous is always going to look shabbier and shabbier.
This is alsotrue of most live action films (classic Muppets excluded) with any "effects", because it's the same.
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I think this is why Hollywood is so obsessed with doing remakes - it started with George Lucas "improving" the original Star Wars trilogy by destroying all known original copies (literally - he was buying them for incredibly high amounts on eBay ect to try to "erase" their existence) then releasing them with the newer technologies.
So they take a look at films like Pet Sematary and think, "well that was good but there was a lot they didn't show because they couldn't pull it off then..."
So they do it again...
(PS I have not even bothered to watch the new one. I don't bother watching remakes/reboots unless it's to heckle or if, say it was an adaptation of a novel and the writer was not happy with the first and this time they are including them in the script process.)
Tim Burton was always my favourite director as a kid, I mean, my favourite film for most of my childhood was Nightmare Before Christmas. Just 😤👌
He's deeply influenced by Edward Gorey too he's never mentioned it but looking at the art you can see it. I liked his older stuff Vincent is one of my favorite Tim Burton cartoons
12:46 i always love the flashback scenes
Once again I want to go on a Tim Burton film marathon, but, again, I don't know which one to rewatch. I love all of them in such a special way I cannot choose!
I’m so extremely happy you ladies chose to do a Tim Burton video today instead of a Pennywise or Joker one because I am burnt out on that trope this season.
I actually grew up on Tim Burton’s movies and art. His style has frightened me for sure but it’s always been there in the background as something my entire family will sit down together to watch.
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Alice in Wonderland, Alice through the Looking Glass, Sleepy Hollow, Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children Planet of the Apes, James and the Giant Peach are my favourite films by Tim Burton, at least the ones ive watched.
James and the Giant Peach was my first Tim Burton film, i felt scared, weirded out, but i absolutely loved it and the feeling of watching it. It really does feel like dream. I always feel so immersed when watching his films, love the characters so much. I am so grateful to be alive during the release of his works, being able to watch and enjoy his films are one of my greatest savouries
*Edit* i just realised James and the giant peach is by Henry Selick, who made Coraline as well... I really have a taste for this kinda movies huh. I love Coraline to the level where i learnt its ending song, which lyrics are literal gibberish, not even joking.
Corpse Bride and his rendition of Sleepy Hollow are my favorites. Although I love all of his movies
I've seen comments saying Tim Burton ruined "Alice in Wonderland." I LOVE Tim Burton's "Alice in Wonderland," he BROUGHT IT TO LIFE.
For the dark blonde there is also Michelle Feifer’s character and Caroline in Dark Shadows.
I just love tim burton and his work. when I was younger I almost watched coraline,nightmare before Christmas and corpse bride every day. He inspired me to create my own stuff it doesn’t matter how weird or obscure it is
Coraline is not a Tim Burton movie tho, it's Henry Selick who made that movie, he was also the director of nightmare before christmas.
When she was talking about "You recognize the cast" and she was talking about Winona Ryder she forgot Elsa Van Helsing from Frankenweenie, Winona does her voice. :)
Tim Burton has a thing for-
High contrast
Shadows
Dull colors
Gothic style
Top hats
Odd shapes
Dreamscape
Black & white stripes
Stop motion/claymation
Pale skin
Heavy makeup
Outcasts
And nobody told my 5 year old self that Edward Scissorhands was a psychological thriller, I swear I couldn’t speak for a week!
I was today years old when I realized Helen Bonham Carter played the witch in Big Fish
Tim Burton was my favourite director growing up
I love Tim Burton because he reminds me of me. I am always treated like a freak because I love the theorys and ideas of death. I know it sounds morbid but it is fascinating to learn about the ways cultures deal with death because it says a lot about the cultures in general. Not only that but I love the same kind of art style as Tim Burton.
Note: Yes I know I kind of went on a mini rant.
Horror brings something dark out of us. Burton’s horror brings out the light and the dark within us.
No matter how popular he gets I feel like Tim Burton is always a little underrated. Although recently his movies haven’t been as good, but that might be due to the massive budgets and companies and material he’s working with. When he does his own stuff it’s always fantastic.
I wouldnt call mrs deetz an evil stepmother. She may be self absorbed but I do believe that she does care about lydia.
16:24 she looks sooo different with blonde hair. It's crazy
Incorrect quotes:
"We also see the gothic influence in his love of Johnny Depp."
Burton always portrays clowns as scary and crazy as nightmare villains, which is the way he portrayed the joker in batman!
Edward Scissorhands was my favourite childhood movie & even today Tim Burton is still doing stuff I enjoy. Vigorously.
This is probably the best series on RUclips regarding the diverse style and techniques of filmmaking. Great for the casual fan. Now can we please get one on Scorsese, he's probably the only big name director left untouched
I love this video and all of your observations! You've clearly put a lot of time, talent, and care into this and into your grasp of film that has representations of elements from literature, too. Just one thing, there is no stepmother in 'Alice in Wonderland', that is her mother. She's the stern mother to the indulging whimsical father archetype (serious vs silly) which isn't as much a fairytale trope as it is a hallmark of many writers, particularly those from the UK.
Thank you for helping me decide which archetype I'll focus on for my final English paper: the outcast
"...his creations could be too dark for young kids"
um...I enjoyed frankenweenie and chocolate factory as a 9 year old 👀👄👀
Chocolate factory and Alice in wonderland were my favorites when I was like 10
Also those angular spirals. I saw an episode of Faerie Tale Theatre once (the Aladdin episode) and there were angular spirals, and I thought, "Huh. That looks like a Tim Burton thing. Oh well." And then the credits came up... and the episode was directed by Tim Burton.
I always love the “you know it’s a BLANK film if” videos, my introduction to Screenprism/The Take
Tim Burton's movies creeps me way more than any modern jumpscare
No mention of Lisa Marie🙁 Ioved her in Ed Wood and Mars Attacks
Burton himself looks Burtonesque. It makes...it makes his story and stories more wonderful.
This was so astute and sharp as are all your Takes on directors.
Well done👍
You know its a Burton film if the main character is pale and has dark hair.
Why is Burton always hurting himself, he had a finger cast, then an arm sling like you okay lol
You should hear about the things he did while working on The Fox and the Hound.
Nightmare before Xmas and Corpse Bride were some of my favorites and still are. Theyre much more memorable because they're different compared to many other things kids watch.
I'd love to see The Take's take on Lars von Trier
They've done that last year. I think it's called "Lars von Trier: Deconstructing cinema"
i truly hope that we will spend many more years with Tim Burton giving us more fantastical movies and rewatching all the movies he already gave us
OMG I am OBSESSED with BEETLEJUICE, BEETLEJUICE, BEETLEJUICE the movie, the series the musical. I love Winona Ryder and Michel Keaton's chemistry as well as Sophia Anne Caruso and Alex Brightman's chemistry it's adorable(the second, not the first) I REALLY want to go see Beetlejuice on Broadway before it closes or if(when) it goes on tour, just to meet the cast and see the show. My life would be complete, ir that happened, but my mom does NOT want to see it and dad's not quite sure.
Tim Burton has a knack for making creepy but beautiful movies.
I love both versions, but I really wish I could thank Tim Burton in person for remaking Willy Wonka. 🙏
You know its a Tim Burton film if the blackest thing on screen are the outfits
My mom used to tell a story that a lot of people thought I was weird when I love watching Tim Burton films
How AWESOME is this video? I clicked here expecting a "curiosities" list, but what I found was an accurate in-depth analysis of a life's work. Thank you! ^_^
Video: it's a kids movie but too scary for kids me :has loved all these movies since I was three
You know it's a Tim Burton film if there's a noticeable lack of POC b/c they don't fit his aesthetic
@Crow I don't see why a movie director would be incapable of writing a person of color.
he made it that way so poc wouldn't be in his movies lol
Its darker or has a dream like state along with music that sounds like a music box.
you know it's a Tim Burton movie if the score is by Danny Elfman, the colors are desaturated, Johnny Depp, Helen Bonham Carter and the inclusion mention of death from the past, that happened sometime before the main plot starts or when it's gonna come up soon on the main character or the people around them, friends or enemies
Johnny depp and tim burton are the Best collaborations it’s crazy that both of them didn’t won an oscar