Craig Ogden (guitar) in conversation with Roopa Panesar (sitar)

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • Guitarist Craig Ogden in conversation with Leicester-based sitar player Roopa Panesar. The two virtuosi compare instrumental techniques and find links between the Indian and western classical music traditions. This podcast also gives audiences an introduction to Rodrigo's Concierto de Aranjuez, which Ogden performed in Leicester on 1 February 2012. The project was a collaboration with Shruti Arts and Orchestras Live.
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  • @shounakhinge8
    @shounakhinge8 5 лет назад +614

    Western classical music always teaches me to look outside myself & explore & enjoy !
    Indian classical music always teaches me to look inside myself & explore & enjoy !

    • @faizalkhan3042
      @faizalkhan3042 5 лет назад +4

      Exactly mate

    • @NishantSingh-qe7vv
      @NishantSingh-qe7vv 4 года назад +22

      Western is material nd indian is spritual

    • @user-ts2ny8jg9d
      @user-ts2ny8jg9d 4 года назад +6

      @@NishantSingh-qe7vv haven't heard a lot of classical guitar, have you?

    • @jakzilla95
      @jakzilla95 3 года назад +2

      Amazing way to put it

    • @thewr0ngchild
      @thewr0ngchild 3 года назад +3

      Both are beautiful forms of music. I have grown to love ALL kinds of music, from metal to jazz, classical to rap, there isn't many genres I really do not like. The beauty of classical is every country and culture has it's own sound and classical pieces. Indian classical music, Chinese classical music etc, they all sound of their country of origin, and are all beautiful to listen to. Music is what sets humans apart from our animal cousins, as no other living animal has been able to compose music, music is the collective voice of humanity x

  • @stechkadam3465
    @stechkadam3465 3 года назад +65

    Guitar sounds like chilling summer in Italian country side
    Sitar has heavenly sound

  • @SudeshChouhan
    @SudeshChouhan 4 года назад +602

    No hard feelings for guitar, but Sitar sounds like it's from heaven

  • @param888
    @param888 4 года назад +235

    Instead of language course we should made music classes mandatory at elementary schools.
    Music is truly global language
    And it is good for logical brain too

    • @JATIN-cm1gf
      @JATIN-cm1gf 4 года назад +11

      what an irony. your name😂😂🤣

    • @incognitome2314
      @incognitome2314 3 года назад +3

      Language also has its own beauty..you touch soul with music but touch heart when you speak someone's language.. my idea of it!😇

    • @tanmaygusain1316
      @tanmaygusain1316 3 года назад

      I think we need both

    • @ashwanikumarpasi5152
      @ashwanikumarpasi5152 3 года назад

      Yup, music makes you a better person.

    • @exenderlloyd7750
      @exenderlloyd7750 3 года назад +1

      Sadly this isn't quite the thing.
      All the children's songs in the west are really just meant to pass on the whole 12TET V-I mindset that our ancestors have done. The arabic and indian 24TET sounds untuned to most westerners as it's not what's forcefully put into our brains at a young age. That's why I'm here actually, to get "un-used"

  • @joshuarosen6242
    @joshuarosen6242 8 лет назад +288

    I have met both of these excellent musicians and they were both very interesting to talk to. It's always fascinating talking to someone about something they really understand deeply.

  • @autansh26
    @autansh26 3 года назад +47

    Indian instument players Don't really rely on written notes and bars...
    Ears are enough...

    • @cyanhallows7809
      @cyanhallows7809 2 года назад +5

      Every good musician develops their ear...................

    • @ChinmayLive
      @ChinmayLive 2 года назад +1

      @@cyanhallows7809 but there is no concept of notes in Indian classical music.. Each and every musician has to learnthe Raaga by heart and to do that they spend hrs everyday for decades..

    • @cyanhallows7809
      @cyanhallows7809 2 года назад +1

      @@ChinmayLive raaga is the concept of notes, what are u talking about there is no concept of notes. loony

    • @ericbana191
      @ericbana191 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@cyanhallows7809no need be rude. What's he's trying to say prob is that Indian music is mostly improvised and has an oral tradition. It's not "sheet" music as in the western classical tradition. It's never written down. Ragas are not written down, they have a fixed melody, some structure and mostly improvisation.

  • @RikthDcruze
    @RikthDcruze 6 лет назад +389

    The Sitar is so majestic, the looks, the sound, the discipline, the everything...

    • @MykTheOccultist
      @MykTheOccultist 6 лет назад +4

      Is the sitar disciplined?

    • @randal7101
      @randal7101 5 лет назад

      The background music is driving me crazy

    • @steefan2248
      @steefan2248 5 лет назад

      @@MykTheOccultist Beat me to it, I'm 3 months late.

    • @liw9991
      @liw9991 3 года назад +5

      cuz we respect our goddess of knowledge saraswati we have to be disciplined to show respect for music which is one of her ability 😉

    • @lll2282
      @lll2282 2 года назад +1

      @@randal7101 its tampura in banground used during yoga and meditation in india

  • @pipeman100
    @pipeman100 Год назад +8

    Lovely to hear both instruments played together.

  • @CraigMansfield
    @CraigMansfield 5 лет назад +222

    I love how the sitar seems to breathe, constantly.

    • @sagnik489
      @sagnik489 5 лет назад +26

      Its tanpura playing in the background.

    • @RobertSlover
      @RobertSlover 4 года назад +23

      @@sagnik489 no the sympathetic strings vibrate passively creating an almost spooky "breathing" effect.

    • @yessidolemerchant5143
      @yessidolemerchant5143 4 года назад +6

      @@RobertSlover not for that long and the sympathetic strings aren't that deep. You cant see the speaker to her left

    • @RobertSlover
      @RobertSlover 4 года назад

      @@yessidolemerchant5143 how do you know tom?

    • @yessidolemerchant5143
      @yessidolemerchant5143 4 года назад +4

      @@RobertSlover I played guitar in a fusion band with a sitar, he could play the drone strings to create an accompanying sound but to get that continuous rich drone he would use a tanpura backing track. Just look how long Roopa Panesar is leaving the sitar without playing as the drone continues, strings don't reverberate for that long, its clear that the speaker right beside her is playing the tanpura drone

  • @MJruling
    @MJruling 6 лет назад +130

    Fell in love with the sitar

  • @Sodhi.jaspreet
    @Sodhi.jaspreet 4 года назад +65

    Sitar always brings my tears. Down. I don't know why but it is.
    Amazing .

    • @andrek5008
      @andrek5008 Год назад

      I love the sitar very much , and the sound its so heavenly !

  • @parasrawat1174
    @parasrawat1174 3 года назад +34

    Sitar makes the most relaxing sounds that any instruments can't do it is difficult though there are many tempos
    1)Alap ( Warm up Very Slow )
    2)Jor ( Slow Composition )
    3)Jhalla ( Solo Sitar )
    4) Vilambit ( Normal Composition )
    5)Drut Gat ( Faster Composition )
    6)Ati Drut Gat ( Can't even see the hands of the sitar player ).

  • @altisgotours2440
    @altisgotours2440 4 года назад +41

    Look at their eyes,pure respect towards the excitement of learning new things,without a pinch of arrogance or false pride.Even after they almost mastered their respective instruments,they still know how to listen to the other person. The world must be like this,do not think someone inferior,do not enforce one's beliefs on others.There is always something to learn in this life time. Love all and respect all and learn from the good things for humanity.

  • @hansschetselaar1657
    @hansschetselaar1657 4 года назад +9

    Really fantastic video, I like play famous songs on guitar but want also learn to play sitar
    I try to imitate sitar sound on classical guitar, a tough job but like the challenge

  • @finalbreath15
    @finalbreath15 2 года назад +2

    I love this type of stuff. Just hearing a knowledgeable musician discover the world of a new instrument is entertaining, it can be enjoyable to watch others learn what intrigues them.

    • @philharmonia_orchestra
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  • @vincentdequiram1102
    @vincentdequiram1102 3 года назад +8

    Interesting how most of the Indian commentators here feel the necessity to say that the sitar is heavenly and divine and the guitar just somewhat OK. I love and play both instruments but would never say one is better or more divine than the other. I guess it’s more about some nationalistic pride and musical socialization, and I assume the people who write this comparisons are not musicians and have no clue what they are talking about. All the classical Indian musicians I met are very respectful and admire European classical instruments music. A friend of mine who was on tour with the great Ravi Shankar always tells the story that when he was with R.S. on a Long Trip in a Train and Ravi asked him to put some music on. He put Bach‘s Brandenburg Concerto on. Ravi said to everyone including his daughter Anoushka to be silent for the next 30 minutes and repeatedly said: „Listen to this! This is the absolute perfection!“ His words are usually the ones I say when I hear him playing the sitar.

    • @DipayanPyne94
      @DipayanPyne94 3 года назад +5

      You are right. It is just Nationalistic Pride. Most of those Indians know nothing about Music. I, as an Indian, recently had an argument with someone. He was saying that Melodies in Western Music are very Mediocre, Western Music has only 2 Scales and so on. I had to school his a**.
      Nationalism is like a disease, whether you agree with me or not. Countries, western or eastern, try to instill a sense of pride in their citizens by promoting their history and culture. This is sad because people should have only one Identity : Rationality. Everything else is less significant. This Realisation will stop people from making comments like the ones made by the Indians in this comment section.
      Anyway, from an Objective Standpoint, Western Music, in general, is Nearly Universal, not Indian. Why ? Coz Indian Classical Music has ALWAYS been NON HARMONIC. However, Indian Classical Music is Awesome just the way it is. Why ? Coz it has Evolved very Beautifully in a Non Harmonic Way, thanks to the Unique Approach to Melody and Rhythm in Indian Classical. The System of Raag and Taal make Indian Music the most Unique Non Harmonic Musical Tradition on this Planet and I say that with 100 % certainty. Legendary Indian Composers like Shankar Ehsaan Loy and A. R. Rahman have combined Indian Classical and Western Harmony so beautifully that their Music is one of the Finest in the world, at least according to me.
      Anyway, my point is that anything that is worthy of appreciation, because of it's Beauty and Uniqueness/ Originality, should be appreciated, without any kind of pride. Why ? Coz Pride clouds our judgement and makes us narrow minded. When I realised this, I started loving All Kinds of Music. That is what we should care about, as Rational humans ...

    • @vincentdequiram1102
      @vincentdequiram1102 3 года назад +2

      @@DipayanPyne94 Thank you for this wonderful response

    • @DipayanPyne94
      @DipayanPyne94 3 года назад +3

      @@vincentdequiram1102 No worries ! I always like to be factual or objective. It's the one thing that most people don't care too much about. That's why they end up saying all kinds of BS 😂

    • @kunjukunjunil1481
      @kunjukunjunil1481 2 года назад

      @@DipayanPyne94 What's "factual" about someone's personal opinion ? What's 'objective' about personal taste ? You are reading too much into peoples comments .Most of the time it's an acquired taste or conditioning ,not some "nationalistic" "chauvinistic " premediated attack on guitar 😆 .

    • @DipayanPyne94
      @DipayanPyne94 2 года назад +2

      @@kunjukunjunil1481
      There's nothing factual about people's tastes. That's right. That wasn't my point.
      My point was that people should be factual and objective. They are often not. Their subjectivity is reflected in their musical tastes. When they start judging others for different tastes, that's when the problem starts. That's what I am against.
      Now, even in music, there are certain objective standards. For eg, there is no concept of harmony in Indian music. This obviously makes Indian music incomplete from an educational standpoint. Indian music can NEVER be Universal. Western Music is Universal, only because it has Harmony.
      Finally, if it is really just acquired taste, then new tastes can also be acquired. For that, people need an open mind. The mind often becomes closed because of nationalism or cultural pride. That must stop. Simple ...

  • @HaharuRecords
    @HaharuRecords 3 года назад +27

    She is very calm..i love that from an Indian. Because that is the real Indians ..♥️🇲🇻✌️😊

    • @MJG70
      @MJG70 3 месяца назад

      From an Indian? she's British with Indian heritage

  • @mikhailyadav
    @mikhailyadav 5 лет назад +45

    After watching this, I realised how very little I know of music and its technicalities... How artists throughout history have devoted their life to play, develop and evolve music and its study.

  • @segovianity
    @segovianity 5 лет назад +5

    Classical guitarist Simon Thacker has been performing (and composing) Asian-style music with his group 'Svara Kanti' (including violinist Jaqueline Shave) in fine style - check them out.

  • @satyajitsahu
    @satyajitsahu 10 лет назад +93

    Thank you Philharmonia for sharing a wonderful conversation. Roopa Panesar looks like a goddess playing the Sitar, and she plays like one.
    Your response on Kirpal Panesar's video brought me here. Are they related? They both have similar style, brilliant musicians, extremely knowledgable, yet humble.

    • @Blissful_seeker
      @Blissful_seeker 4 года назад +1

      Not related, just talented musicians from UK

  • @apurba121
    @apurba121 5 лет назад +1

    Classical guitar is excellent in the formation of beautiful music while Sitar is divine which can lead us to another dimension with its smooth vibrato. Thanks, Roopa, for this great presentation. I am from Assam.

  • @matt134174
    @matt134174 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for asking such basic questions, and explanations; Wish I found this a long time ago!!

  • @abhibkp
    @abhibkp 6 лет назад +98

    When Legends Talk, time stops and listens.

  • @blazingax05
    @blazingax05 4 года назад +16

    I play both...guitar and sitar. Both instruments have their merits, especially when I want to hear a beautiful harmony of layered notes, guitar is amazing...when I want to hear a heavenly and soulful melody, I go to sitar

  • @Pranav9977
    @Pranav9977 5 лет назад +12

    both eastern & western music & instruments r majestic in their own rights & territory... but the associated ego & arguments resulting from it is sickening...& that too frm the people who dont even play or understand either kind of music fully... can we drop the identity & looks of it & solely dive deeper in the most important thing here which is "music"

  • @philharmonia_orchestra
    @philharmonia_orchestra  11 лет назад +17

    He is playing the Concierto de Aranjuez by Joaquín Rodrigo. It's the slow, second movement, Adagio.

  • @SudeshChouhan
    @SudeshChouhan 4 года назад +1

    I don't know why but when i hear Sitar sound then I feel so relaxed n become stress free

  • @cybeonic
    @cybeonic 3 года назад +22

    No hard feelings of guitar but sitar sounds like it’s from heaven

  • @freddiemercurybulsara3876
    @freddiemercurybulsara3876 5 лет назад +68

    Pride of India, Nobody can touch Indian classical music.

    • @aishwaryaprakash229
      @aishwaryaprakash229 Год назад +2

      @@uog293 Not bringing man,It was developed in india , Thanks to their music taste

    • @apoorvsalar9452
      @apoorvsalar9452 Год назад +3

      ​@@uog293 lol music is haram in islam...

    • @apoorvsalar9452
      @apoorvsalar9452 Год назад

      ​@@aishwaryaprakash229 Muslims appropriated and stole our culture

    • @apoorvsalar9452
      @apoorvsalar9452 Год назад

      ​@@uog293 Tell me the musical traditions of the origin countries of these so called mughals....shithole central Asian countries gave india music... yeah right

  • @Aasmraudio
    @Aasmraudio 5 лет назад +1

    sitar have so much feel in its sound... and guiter sounds exotic.

  • @PatrickJanka
    @PatrickJanka 11 лет назад +14

    Elevator music...sigh. Shows how much of her material you've actually heard. She has experience with both Carnatic and Hindustani. Heck, her mom was a Carnatic vocalist. But, as we've already discussed, she plays outside of the tired, centuries old cliches, and writes her own unique music. So why the constant link to Hindustani music when she's clearly a modern composer? Lastly you are not a musician. Real musicians do not trash talk fellow musicians, unless out of sheer jealousy. You'll learn.

  • @philharmonia_orchestra
    @philharmonia_orchestra  11 лет назад +40

    Our pleasure. We're glad it evokes such positive memories.

    • @goutamchatterjee3124
      @goutamchatterjee3124 6 лет назад +1

      Between 8:55 and 8:59, the blend of guitar and sitar just gave me goosebumps 😍

    • @FindGodPLZ
      @FindGodPLZ 6 лет назад

      Make one on Sarangi plz

  • @loboserpiente
    @loboserpiente 6 лет назад +21

    Ropa Panesar is beautiful

  • @chetalisamant6789
    @chetalisamant6789 6 лет назад +26

    Wonderful symphony of two sounds !! The Guitar sounds like the " western cousin" of Sitar in this conversation ... amazing conversation Roopa and Craig !!!

  • @MandeepHarmonicaMusic
    @MandeepHarmonicaMusic 6 лет назад +2

    Beautiful rendition- great talent , an inspiration for music lovers like me

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      @MandeepHarmonicaMusic 6 лет назад

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  • @MegaChamith
    @MegaChamith 7 лет назад +85

    OMG.. she played Rodrigo's Concierto de Aranjuez on her sitar... that sound of combination of guitar and sitar is really beautiful..

    • @philharmonia_orchestra
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    • @brucedavis191
      @brucedavis191 6 лет назад +3

      the beatles figured this out in 1967. i love the sitar. i believe a piece written for both by master of both would d well.

  • @s5utu
    @s5utu 3 года назад +10

    Roopa Phean Ji is such an accomplished musician and plays the sitar so effortlessly..truely enjoyable to listen too.
    Being a keen listener of both classical Indian and European music I can appreciate each genre and enjoy both.
    Thankyou for this informative conversation. 🙏

  • @ramanidpr40
    @ramanidpr40 5 лет назад +18

    great interview ,love the two most beautifull instrument differences

  • @hitmanlad
    @hitmanlad 12 лет назад

    What a fantastic interview conducted by Craig Oden. I would rate Roopa Panesar as the worlds second greatest feminine sitar player after Anoushka Shankar! Roopa is simply a phenomenon! She is so talented! Amazing to see someone who grew up in England become such a virtuoso. Usually great sitar players come from India but what a rare exception! G

    • @HummingBard
      @HummingBard 5 лет назад

      It is funny that you think Anoushka shankar is better than Rupa Panesar. In fact Anoushka is pretty ordinary, she used to be a lousy one, but improved recently. However, her skill and talent come nowhere near Rupa's.

  • @johnnymoses5450
    @johnnymoses5450 10 лет назад +121

    Roopa is divine in every aspect of the word, she is truly a gift from the gods

    • @tijuanaiguana190
      @tijuanaiguana190 7 лет назад +1

      johnny moses lol this isn't Roman gladiator times there isn't multiple gods

    • @brijray1773
      @brijray1773 7 лет назад +3

      Tinjana iguana -------------Well said. It is time for philosophies like, those who wear only "JEANS" will go to heaven all those who do not, or wear casuals are going to "BURN IN ETERNAL HELL"

    •  6 лет назад +14

      Tijuana iguana Exactly, and everyone know that the true god is the Flying Spaghetti Monster :)

    • @shiva_MMIV
      @shiva_MMIV 6 лет назад +5

      Tijuana iguana You are aware that in the world there are a lot of polytheist religions and people practicing them (more than monotheists, in fact), don't you?

    • @virnalinebrida-sunga7748
      @virnalinebrida-sunga7748 6 лет назад

      @@shiva_MMIV nah, there are more monotheists, Christianity has 2 billion people following it, and Islam has almost 2 billion too

  • @ranajoyshil
    @ranajoyshil 5 лет назад +22

    Guthrie Govan would be the middle man.

    • @LeeJCander
      @LeeJCander 5 лет назад +1

      He needs to do something like this!

  • @alurnataraj3915
    @alurnataraj3915 8 лет назад +8

    Very instructive

  • @gyaneshgaur3440
    @gyaneshgaur3440 5 лет назад +6

    I like Indian classical music very much
    The Guitar faded in front of sitar

  • @suhasinimadhuryachennubhot9342
    @suhasinimadhuryachennubhot9342 4 года назад +11

    Both the instruments are beautiful in their own ways!

  • @archer7199
    @archer7199 4 года назад +9

    More than the instruments it's the musician whom I appreciate and I respect their talent! I can listen to them for hours when they hit my chord 'cause I know it for sure that music is universal be it western or eastern! A harp can port me to an alternate reality and so can a Sarod. A Saxophone can crack me up and so can an Esraj!

  • @GuruGoBaDD
    @GuruGoBaDD 5 лет назад +11

    Both artists were not just clearly informative and had great banter but are exceptionally talented I like

  • @rgsd1969
    @rgsd1969 5 лет назад +21

    wow that sitar really drones on and on

    • @embercorleone2898
      @embercorleone2898 4 года назад +7

      She had a tambura drone on her phone. But definitely a beautiful made sitar.

    • @collecter3456
      @collecter3456 3 года назад

      It’s actually quite annoying to me on its own. It’s just one note sustained forever pretty much.

    • @collecter3456
      @collecter3456 3 года назад

      It’s actually quite annoying to me on its own. It’s just one note sustained forever pretty much.

  • @fowadkhan5938
    @fowadkhan5938 3 года назад

    what a beautiful sitar... sooo rich .... so close to human spirt... love it simply love it..

  • @JaySinghIsImmature
    @JaySinghIsImmature 5 лет назад +11

    She's so good at her art and at simplifying complex concepts. So cool!

  • @amrith_gn9862
    @amrith_gn9862 4 года назад +6

    guitar: instrument of romance and passion
    sitar :- instrument of feelings (spirituality )

    • @amrith_gn9862
      @amrith_gn9862 3 года назад +2

      @@musicworship4520 guitar It is recognized as a primary instrument in genres such as blues, bluegrass, country, flamenco, folk, jazz, jota, mariachi, metal, punk, reggae, rock, soul, and pop. And sitar is a traditional instrument and we can play most of the music types . In this video the sitar changes our mood that's what I meant by feelings and that feeling dosent mean it's love it's the spirituality which u told. But ha sitar sounds best in indian classical music . And guitar in western . So u can't compare them , I compared them with the feelings we get by listening to it

  • @orepstein
    @orepstein 5 лет назад +8

    that was an amazing explanation for a western guy like me ! thank you for this

  • @fusion-music
    @fusion-music 8 лет назад +20

    Nice interview of two disciplines. Very informative.

  • @aagantuk7370
    @aagantuk7370 6 лет назад +1

    Two excellent artists.

  • @Obsequie
    @Obsequie 3 года назад +7

    Her eyes have soul

  • @TreyYancy
    @TreyYancy Год назад +4

    Ogden refers to key changes in western music. A good example of a sitar doing this is found in the song "Folk Tune" by Kushal Das. It is on his Divine Soul album and also on YT.

  • @max269
    @max269 5 лет назад +31

    I wish he didn't interrupt her so damn much...

  • @satyapadma3326
    @satyapadma3326 11 лет назад +1

    Roopa Panesar you the divine Saraswatie Maata who is giving divine grace to the world in the form of your divine music.You are my favorite.

  • @PaulTheSkeptic
    @PaulTheSkeptic 6 лет назад +61

    I think there's a lot of unexplored territory with the sitar. Rock bands have used them. The Beatles of course, The Stones, Les Claypool. But, I'd like to see some fusion jazz with sitar. I think that would be cool.

    • @elSargent93
      @elSargent93 6 лет назад +7

      God I hope I never hear jazz sitar fusion

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 6 лет назад +1

      Why? They've done every other instrument. Jazz violin, jazz synthesizer, then you got the vibes, flute, trumpet with effects, electric guitars and whatever else. It's as though they want to do jazz with every instrument. Everyone except one.
      Hey look. I just found bagpipes jazz. ruclips.net/video/2nekk4tJoqo/видео.html

    • @elSargent93
      @elSargent93 6 лет назад +6

      I guess my concern is that there's an increasingly higher inclination to seek extreme novelty in music rather than taking the time to build an interest from its primitive states. It's a low grade gratification for the viewer and it kinda just leads nowhere except to another messy cultural crossover. And it doesn't stop there!!

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 6 лет назад +6

      Extreme novelty? So what would that be? Whenever I think of novel approaches to music, I tend to think of artists who are highly respected. Bela Fleck comes to mind. The Beatles, Pink Floyd, György Ligeti. With music I always tend to think "why not?" rather than "should I?". There's no rules. You have incredible freedom to do whatever kind of crazy sound you want. Personally, I'd like to hear more extreme novelty.
      Also, I found it. Someone is doing jazz fusion with a sitar. ruclips.net/video/E36mrhSaXT4/видео.html

    • @elSargent93
      @elSargent93 6 лет назад

      Of course there's the freedom but why is that such a good thing? Take an existing discipline and bend a couple of subtle rules...then you're cooking with gas!

  • @village_guy
    @village_guy 6 лет назад +91

    Sitar sounds more beautiful honestly

    • @ZeroSleap
      @ZeroSleap 6 лет назад +8

      Beauty is subjective,but it's nice to see that you like more of that eastern sound,it's really interesting and unique

    • @DanielOnFire101
      @DanielOnFire101 5 лет назад

      I guess opinions can be wrong too

    • @ssimms8995
      @ssimms8995 5 лет назад +6

      social currency i would actually agree with you. The sitar is so resonant. Combine it with the tabla, and you have all you need. Indian music is so relaxing

    • @superorangeish
      @superorangeish 4 года назад

      The beauty is the diversity.As they say..."It's ALL good"!

    • @nmo3148
      @nmo3148 3 года назад

      That can be a matter of taste. Indian classical music is certainly more complex . Its all about the moods

  • @tropicalstrings
    @tropicalstrings 5 лет назад +6

    more and more I understand why architects and musiciands where considered as gpds in ancient times.

  • @amritpatel3794
    @amritpatel3794 3 года назад +1

    I feel like Gitar is masculine & Sitar is feminine. So they are very complemantary.
    Their union would be a perfect Union.

  • @DOKOTV
    @DOKOTV 4 года назад +7

    from what I have understood till date, western music are more straight while eastern is everything but straight. did anyone understand what I meant?

    • @DipayanPyne
      @DipayanPyne 4 года назад

      It was quite confusing. Just explain what you mean ... (Edit: I got what u meant) ...

    • @rick1646
      @rick1646 3 года назад +1

      I would argue that ,western music isn't straight listen to paganini

    • @DipayanPyne
      @DipayanPyne 3 года назад

      @ Rick
      Compared to Eastern Music, particularly Indian Music, Western Music is very very straight. Given that I come from an Indian background and have listened to both Indian and Western Classical for a long time, it is obvious to me that Western Music barely makes use of Continuity like Indian Classical does. The reason for this is very simple: Piano. The Piano became the basis for Western Classical and everything that followed. So, the concept of utilizing 'Continuous' Forms of Melodic Ornamentation was barely explored. This 'Continuity' is so common in Indian Classical that if u remove it from any piece, it will instantly stop being Indian Classical. I just listened to Paganini for a few minutes, after reading your comment. I can still see minimal usage of 'Continuity'. The notes still sound very distinct. This doesn't take away the fact that Paganini was a genius. I already knew that before reading your comment. But anyway. The original comment is very much true. It just tells us that Music Theory is not universal. There is something unique about every tradition. That just means more diversity for us all to appreciate.

    • @rick1646
      @rick1646 3 года назад +1

      @@DipayanPyne as you said the continuity in notes is a part of indian music it's also depends on the instruments like tanpura if you pluck a string you can hear the sound for a long time because of its structure but in piano even if you play a major key the sound won't last that long.So yes they didn't explore long continuous notes because of the instruments.Both of our definition of straight sound might differ but what I've heard I found that there are specific keys for every raga to Express that specific emotion but in western you can use any key to make your musical composition. And there's another fact that I like in Indian music that they have characterised music based on feelings,seasons, materials, gods and many things which makes the count nearly 400000 ragas and that's very huge and amazing.

    • @DipayanPyne
      @DipayanPyne 3 года назад

      @ Rick
      Mate. I think u misunderstood what I meant by 'Continuity'. I was not referring to how long a note lasts, whether played on a Piano or a Tanpura or any String Instrument or any Instrument of any kind. By Continuity, I meant: SMOOTH CHANGE during change of note from one note to another. This change is abrupt most of the time in Western Music. In Piano, the change is ALWAYS abrupt, because you can not play anything from a semi-tonal interval. So, a Piano has to be instantly discarded, as far as Indian Classical Music is concerned (although you can somehow get the feel of a raag in a primitive form). You need to pick up a String Instrument for that, like a Sarangi or Veena or Sitar or Violin. Did you know that Violin, despite being a Western Classical Instrument, was adopted in the last century or so, for Indian Classical ? The Indian Classical Violin sounds stylistically quite different from the Original Western one. Funny how one can be useful for the other. Anyway. You do have 'Continuity' in Western Classical, such as a Glissando, but it is SO MUCH MORE in Indian Classical. Indian Classical actually thrives on 'Continuous Note Variation'.
      But anyway, you are right about Raags. It is a very sophisticated system with various types, categorized in multiple ways. However, I think you are mistaken about the idea of 'Keys'. Even in Indian Classical, as far as I am aware, any Key can be selected for a composition. It's just that once a key has been selected, it remains fixed during a performance. There is no modulation. The Tanpura actually maintains the Key in Indian Classical Performances. I think what one needs to understand is that once a Key and a Thaat (Scale) have been selected, specific notes are played for a specific raag. Also, u hv concepts like Aroha & Avaroha and a lot more. Raags truly Color the Mind, as it is rightfully said, quite often ...

  • @Chase_Myles
    @Chase_Myles 6 лет назад +7

    my dream...... to be high and listen to her play.....

  • @deepakbhatt8401
    @deepakbhatt8401 5 лет назад +4

    Rupa Sister I like your veena vadan. I love music.Really You are Great for me.very Nice. please make more videos.

  • @prabhakargundlapalli393
    @prabhakargundlapalli393 6 лет назад +2

    Very good Lec-Dem. 👍👏

  • @bacicinvatteneaca
    @bacicinvatteneaca 6 лет назад +4

    Funny how the classical guitar sings so much more powerfully its single notes, while the sitar sounds like a whole orchestra. Really instruments of different conception.

  • @abhigyandasgupta7730
    @abhigyandasgupta7730 2 года назад +1

    I wonder why this tune at 4:47 feels so majestic every time I hear it. Probably because Raga Yaman is structured that way :), and in sitar that is in a different league.

  • @a.k6839
    @a.k6839 6 лет назад +3

    sitar will sound more beautiful with tabla taal its like big brother singing and sister dancing both can overpower each other but with right swar and laay its the most beautiful verse you will hear any tabla player here.

  • @marionnepatrick7383
    @marionnepatrick7383 5 лет назад +4

    if I were doing that conversation. I'd probably have a crush on her after :D

  • @zazaa124
    @zazaa124 5 лет назад +9

    Fabulous channel, performers and music

    • @philharmonia_orchestra
      @philharmonia_orchestra  5 лет назад

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  • @user-wq2xu1rn2c
    @user-wq2xu1rn2c 6 лет назад +8

    Loved this exchange of music between three east and West. Need more of this.. beautiful

  • @Virag100ni
    @Virag100ni 6 лет назад +5

    Superb Video .. Both Are just Amazing Players

  • @AryaInk
    @AryaInk 6 лет назад +8

    The sound of sitar is mesmerizing. I love guitar too, specially fingerstyle.

  • @InTheMixReviews
    @InTheMixReviews 5 лет назад +5

    Life is amazing, when you see people at their best. I never cared for Sitar till I saw this video. Mind blown!

  • @badboyradhe
    @badboyradhe 3 года назад +1

    I am speechless

  • @arkapravadutta8319
    @arkapravadutta8319 5 лет назад

    It's crazy how k grew up around classical music and how little I know about it. I think imma get some lessons from ma

  • @drutgat2
    @drutgat2 6 лет назад +3

    In addition to what Roopa was saying about the structure of a raag/raga, it is a fascinating cultural experience to attend an Indian Classical Music concert - one which I highly recommend. I am talking about seeing a performer in the context of a concert put on by one of the many 'societies'/organizations devoted to Sangeet (vocals, dance and instrumental music) which are to be found all over the world. I have attended so many of these concerts, through the organization of which I am a member, that I find it strange to see Indian Classical Music performed in a predominantly Western context (e.g., with an audience that is not familiar with things such as the audience calling out their approval at various times).

  • @aajathakur2883
    @aajathakur2883 8 лет назад +5

    बहुत सुंदर so beautiful।

  • @jitendrapandey176
    @jitendrapandey176 4 года назад +4

    I have watched this almost 10 times 🙂

  • @sampritiroy9669
    @sampritiroy9669 3 года назад +5

    Guitar is great. But the sitar is heavenly

  • @tokyosurveillancecorporati9119

    She just absolutely Deliverance'd this dude.

  • @ilovegurusahib
    @ilovegurusahib 3 года назад +3

    This is a brilliant video in many ways. Melodical Differences can be heard live on top of that Sitar sounds deep and full of life. 🎸 on the other hand is more of a light music instrument. Nothing against 🎸 in anyway. I love both instruments. She is amazing at what she is doing. I am glad you chose one of the best suitar players in the world to demonstrate it. Thanks

  • @ajaychhettri
    @ajaychhettri 6 лет назад +4

    You play melodious Sitar .. just beautiful I have no vocabulary..

  • @svn2381
    @svn2381 9 месяцев назад +1

    Indian Lutes...Saraswati Veena, Rudra Veena, Chitra Veena are created to mimic human voice and hence can act as the main performer....Sitar can also be included but one clearly 'hears' it as an instrument or accompaniment.....Guitar is PURELY an accompaniment to the VOICE

  • @ChristianFS1
    @ChristianFS1 6 лет назад +7

    5:53 that's straight-up Django Reinhardt right there! Guess we know where he got the idea from now...

    • @mragunathan1627
      @mragunathan1627 6 лет назад +1

      that shows his genius, that level of vigorous sliding and fret movement on the guitars much heavier gauge strings are way harder on the hands!

    • @kharybdis
      @kharybdis 5 лет назад +2

      You might find it mildly interesting that Django Reinhardt was from the Romani or ‘gypsy’ community, which traces its origin to India.

    • @rjlchristie
      @rjlchristie 5 лет назад +3

      There is more to your observation than you might realise. You might be interested in watching the film Latcho Drom, 1993, which documents the connections of Romani musical styles from their roots in India and Central Asia through N Africa and Europe to its final (westward) destination within the flamenco styles of Spain.

  • @leeong_lepcha
    @leeong_lepcha 3 года назад +1

    A lot of viewers here are confusing the constant droid playing in the background as the voice of the sitar. I personally play the guitar the the droid playing in the background and partly enjoy both instruments.

  • @yasirabass7404
    @yasirabass7404 5 лет назад +6

    6:08 that look 😂

  • @philharmonia_orchestra
    @philharmonia_orchestra  11 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the wonderful feedback on this video.

  • @philharmonia_orchestra
    @philharmonia_orchestra  11 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the lovely comment! We're so glad you enjoyed the film!

  • @mansitambade6730
    @mansitambade6730 3 года назад +2

    Ohhh myy godd... i am getting good suggestions from YT.
    Great to watch this discussion between western and Indian classical musicians.Respect and love for both of them.❤️👌🏻

  • @nabanitrit3054
    @nabanitrit3054 4 года назад +3

    The like for Roopa's voice i heared 1st here.

  • @ariella_sisters_official8562
    @ariella_sisters_official8562 4 года назад +3

    Really amazing I just excited to see

  • @HammondB200
    @HammondB200 6 лет назад +2

    3:11 Phil said the same thing a couple of seconds earlier almost as he wants to hear the Western technique is better.

  • @gkspartans547
    @gkspartans547 4 года назад

    Music is Universal Language...😍

  • @Yasser229
    @Yasser229 11 лет назад +3

    Thank you so much PhilharmonialLondon for the Information, I used to hear this piece a lot on Kabul Radio when I was a child back home, they used to recite poetries and play soft music in back ground such as this one.
    Thanks again!

  • @samiralabed9232
    @samiralabed9232 6 лет назад +7

    Wonderful conversation

  • @tropicalstrings
    @tropicalstrings 5 лет назад +2

    On the guitar you have harmonicly more possebilletys.
    The sitar sounds fuller.
    Its a bit like theorbe
    I love the theorbe.
    First time I heard it, got goosebumbs.

  • @yeahhyouvish
    @yeahhyouvish 5 лет назад +2

    This reminded me of when Legendary Paco met Shri Pandit Ravi Shankar.

  • @chessguru900
    @chessguru900 6 лет назад +3

    She's a great musician. I wish I coulod join her in playing.

  • @asdfasdf464
    @asdfasdf464 2 года назад +1

    Vasant Rai (RIP), the disciple of the incomparable guru Ustad Allauddin Khan (Guru also of his son Ustad Ali Akbar Khan as well as Nikhil Banerjee, Annapurna Devi, Ravi Shankar, and many others) and who also was the last student to receive the Guru's complete musical training, emerging a virtuoso on the sarod, was experimenting with playing Indian classical music on his invention the Sur-Guitar, a classical guitar tuned BF#BF#BE, low to high, and the fret board replaced with a fretless sheet of stainless steel like a Sarod. There are very few recordings of him playing it, but I cannot recommend them enough. His other recordings on Sarod are incredible as well.