Craig Ogden (guitar) in conversation with Roopa Panesar (sitar)
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- Опубликовано: 10 янв 2012
- Guitarist Craig Ogden in conversation with Leicester-based sitar player Roopa Panesar. The two virtuosi compare instrumental techniques and find links between the Indian and western classical music traditions. This podcast also gives audiences an introduction to Rodrigo's Concierto de Aranjuez, which Ogden performed in Leicester on 1 February 2012. The project was a collaboration with Shruti Arts and Orchestras Live.
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Western classical music always teaches me to look outside myself & explore & enjoy !
Indian classical music always teaches me to look inside myself & explore & enjoy !
Exactly mate
Western is material nd indian is spritual
@@NishantSingh-qe7vv haven't heard a lot of classical guitar, have you?
Amazing way to put it
Both are beautiful forms of music. I have grown to love ALL kinds of music, from metal to jazz, classical to rap, there isn't many genres I really do not like. The beauty of classical is every country and culture has it's own sound and classical pieces. Indian classical music, Chinese classical music etc, they all sound of their country of origin, and are all beautiful to listen to. Music is what sets humans apart from our animal cousins, as no other living animal has been able to compose music, music is the collective voice of humanity x
No hard feelings for guitar, but Sitar sounds like it's from heaven
... what?
India's heaven ,,,,you mean?
Bhai swarg mai bajate hi honge naarad
You stole my comment 4 months back. I second you
@@tonmoydeka7319
No . All heavens my dear .
Listen to guitar and see the sweetness in it.
The Sitar is so majestic, the looks, the sound, the discipline, the everything...
Is the sitar disciplined?
The background music is driving me crazy
@@MykTheOccultist Beat me to it, I'm 3 months late.
cuz we respect our goddess of knowledge saraswati we have to be disciplined to show respect for music which is one of her ability 😉
@@randal7101 its tampura in banground used during yoga and meditation in india
Guitar sounds like chilling summer in Italian country side
Sitar has heavenly sound
Instead of language course we should made music classes mandatory at elementary schools.
Music is truly global language
And it is good for logical brain too
what an irony. your name😂😂🤣
Language also has its own beauty..you touch soul with music but touch heart when you speak someone's language.. my idea of it!😇
I think we need both
Yup, music makes you a better person.
Sadly this isn't quite the thing.
All the children's songs in the west are really just meant to pass on the whole 12TET V-I mindset that our ancestors have done. The arabic and indian 24TET sounds untuned to most westerners as it's not what's forcefully put into our brains at a young age. That's why I'm here actually, to get "un-used"
I love how the sitar seems to breathe, constantly.
Its tanpura playing in the background.
@@sagnik489 no the sympathetic strings vibrate passively creating an almost spooky "breathing" effect.
@@RobertSlover not for that long and the sympathetic strings aren't that deep. You cant see the speaker to her left
@@yessidolemerchant5143 how do you know tom?
@@RobertSlover I played guitar in a fusion band with a sitar, he could play the drone strings to create an accompanying sound but to get that continuous rich drone he would use a tanpura backing track. Just look how long Roopa Panesar is leaving the sitar without playing as the drone continues, strings don't reverberate for that long, its clear that the speaker right beside her is playing the tanpura drone
Sitar always brings my tears. Down. I don't know why but it is.
Amazing .
I love the sitar very much , and the sound its so heavenly !
Fell in love with the sitar
Her name is Roopa
Look at their eyes,pure respect towards the excitement of learning new things,without a pinch of arrogance or false pride.Even after they almost mastered their respective instruments,they still know how to listen to the other person. The world must be like this,do not think someone inferior,do not enforce one's beliefs on others.There is always something to learn in this life time. Love all and respect all and learn from the good things for humanity.
I have met both of these excellent musicians and they were both very interesting to talk to. It's always fascinating talking to someone about something they really understand deeply.
+Joshua Rosen Thanks for sharing Josh, great that you enjoyed the video.
LLP
She is very calm..i love that from an Indian. Because that is the real Indians ..♥️🇲🇻✌️😊
After watching this, I realised how very little I know of music and its technicalities... How artists throughout history have devoted their life to play, develop and evolve music and its study.
Sitar makes the most relaxing sounds that any instruments can't do it is difficult though there are many tempos
1)Alap ( Warm up Very Slow )
2)Jor ( Slow Composition )
3)Jhalla ( Solo Sitar )
4) Vilambit ( Normal Composition )
5)Drut Gat ( Faster Composition )
6)Ati Drut Gat ( Can't even see the hands of the sitar player ).
When Legends Talk, time stops and listens.
With you. What a pleasant experience listening to them.
I play both...guitar and sitar. Both instruments have their merits, especially when I want to hear a beautiful harmony of layered notes, guitar is amazing...when I want to hear a heavenly and soulful melody, I go to sitar
Lovely to hear both instruments played together.
Our pleasure. We're glad it evokes such positive memories.
Between 8:55 and 8:59, the blend of guitar and sitar just gave me goosebumps 😍
Make one on Sarangi plz
He is playing the Concierto de Aranjuez by Joaquín Rodrigo. It's the slow, second movement, Adagio.
Roopa Phean Ji is such an accomplished musician and plays the sitar so effortlessly..truely enjoyable to listen too.
Being a keen listener of both classical Indian and European music I can appreciate each genre and enjoy both.
Thankyou for this informative conversation. 🙏
Both artists were not just clearly informative and had great banter but are exceptionally talented I like
She's so good at her art and at simplifying complex concepts. So cool!
Pride of India, Nobody can touch Indian classical music.
@@uog293 Not bringing man,It was developed in india , Thanks to their music taste
@@uog293 lol music is haram in islam...
@@aishwaryaprakash229 Muslims appropriated and stole our culture
@@uog293 Tell me the musical traditions of the origin countries of these so called mughals....shithole central Asian countries gave india music... yeah right
Wonderful symphony of two sounds !! The Guitar sounds like the " western cousin" of Sitar in this conversation ... amazing conversation Roopa and Craig !!!
Indian instument players Don't really rely on written notes and bars...
Ears are enough...
Every good musician develops their ear...................
@@cyanhallows7809 but there is no concept of notes in Indian classical music.. Each and every musician has to learnthe Raaga by heart and to do that they spend hrs everyday for decades..
@@ChinmayLive raaga is the concept of notes, what are u talking about there is no concept of notes. loony
@@cyanhallows7809no need be rude. What's he's trying to say prob is that Indian music is mostly improvised and has an oral tradition. It's not "sheet" music as in the western classical tradition. It's never written down. Ragas are not written down, they have a fixed melody, some structure and mostly improvisation.
Both the instruments are beautiful in their own ways!
OMG.. she played Rodrigo's Concierto de Aranjuez on her sitar... that sound of combination of guitar and sitar is really beautiful..
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the beatles figured this out in 1967. i love the sitar. i believe a piece written for both by master of both would d well.
great interview ,love the two most beautifull instrument differences
Thank you for the lovely feedback.
Roopa is divine in every aspect of the word, she is truly a gift from the gods
johnny moses lol this isn't Roman gladiator times there isn't multiple gods
Tinjana iguana -------------Well said. It is time for philosophies like, those who wear only "JEANS" will go to heaven all those who do not, or wear casuals are going to "BURN IN ETERNAL HELL"
Tijuana iguana Exactly, and everyone know that the true god is the Flying Spaghetti Monster :)
Tijuana iguana You are aware that in the world there are a lot of polytheist religions and people practicing them (more than monotheists, in fact), don't you?
@@shiva_MMIV nah, there are more monotheists, Christianity has 2 billion people following it, and Islam has almost 2 billion too
Ogden refers to key changes in western music. A good example of a sitar doing this is found in the song "Folk Tune" by Kushal Das. It is on his Divine Soul album and also on YT.
that was an amazing explanation for a western guy like me ! thank you for this
Loved this exchange of music between three east and West. Need more of this.. beautiful
wow that sitar really drones on and on
She had a tambura drone on her phone. But definitely a beautiful made sitar.
It’s actually quite annoying to me on its own. It’s just one note sustained forever pretty much.
It’s actually quite annoying to me on its own. It’s just one note sustained forever pretty much.
More than the instruments it's the musician whom I appreciate and I respect their talent! I can listen to them for hours when they hit my chord 'cause I know it for sure that music is universal be it western or eastern! A harp can port me to an alternate reality and so can a Sarod. A Saxophone can crack me up and so can an Esraj!
Thank you Philharmonia for sharing a wonderful conversation. Roopa Panesar looks like a goddess playing the Sitar, and she plays like one.
Your response on Kirpal Panesar's video brought me here. Are they related? They both have similar style, brilliant musicians, extremely knowledgable, yet humble.
Not related, just talented musicians from UK
No hard feelings of guitar but sitar sounds like it’s from heaven
I love this type of stuff. Just hearing a knowledgeable musician discover the world of a new instrument is entertaining, it can be enjoyable to watch others learn what intrigues them.
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The sound of sitar is mesmerizing. I love guitar too, specially fingerstyle.
Life is amazing, when you see people at their best. I never cared for Sitar till I saw this video. Mind blown!
Ohhh myy godd... i am getting good suggestions from YT.
Great to watch this discussion between western and Indian classical musicians.Respect and love for both of them.❤️👌🏻
There is so much Humility and respect for each other and there styles of playing in the discussion. That give a real warmth and joy to the heart of anybody listening to this beautiful but informative discussion. I hope there is a video where they both play together. May both the musicians be blessed with long life and more fantastic music in there life.
The conversation was very informative. Great respect for all masters who have worked hard to reach the levels they are at, and growing.
Thanks for asking such basic questions, and explanations; Wish I found this a long time ago!!
Wow.... I love the conversation... Lots of love to you both
It's like guitar and sitar communicating with each other divine man
Thank you so much
I like Indian classical music very much
The Guitar faded in front of sitar
Thanks for making this one, interesting to see the conversation with guitarist and Sitarist, loving it!! ❤❤❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wonderful conversation
Informatively inspirational.
Thank you Philharmonic Orchestra.
Keep on.
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Her eyes have soul
Nice interview of two disciplines. Very informative.
Beautiful music and musician !!
I have watched this almost 10 times 🙂
Thank you so much PhilharmonialLondon for the Information, I used to hear this piece a lot on Kabul Radio when I was a child back home, they used to recite poetries and play soft music in back ground such as this one.
Thanks again!
Really fantastic video, I like play famous songs on guitar but want also learn to play sitar
I try to imitate sitar sound on classical guitar, a tough job but like the challenge
What a great video. Such great musicians both of them.
Superb Video .. Both Are just Amazing Players
In addition to what Roopa was saying about the structure of a raag/raga, it is a fascinating cultural experience to attend an Indian Classical Music concert - one which I highly recommend. I am talking about seeing a performer in the context of a concert put on by one of the many 'societies'/organizations devoted to Sangeet (vocals, dance and instrumental music) which are to be found all over the world. I have attended so many of these concerts, through the organization of which I am a member, that I find it strange to see Indian Classical Music performed in a predominantly Western context (e.g., with an audience that is not familiar with things such as the audience calling out their approval at various times).
Excellent. God bless both.
Classical guitarist Simon Thacker has been performing (and composing) Asian-style music with his group 'Svara Kanti' (including violinist Jaqueline Shave) in fine style - check them out.
mesmerizing..simply mesmerizing...
Awesome music with really elegant people
guitar: instrument of romance and passion
sitar :- instrument of feelings (spirituality )
@@musicworship4520 guitar It is recognized as a primary instrument in genres such as blues, bluegrass, country, flamenco, folk, jazz, jota, mariachi, metal, punk, reggae, rock, soul, and pop. And sitar is a traditional instrument and we can play most of the music types . In this video the sitar changes our mood that's what I meant by feelings and that feeling dosent mean it's love it's the spirituality which u told. But ha sitar sounds best in indian classical music . And guitar in western . So u can't compare them , I compared them with the feelings we get by listening to it
Classical guitar is excellent in the formation of beautiful music while Sitar is divine which can lead us to another dimension with its smooth vibrato. Thanks, Roopa, for this great presentation. I am from Assam.
Simply beautiful !
this was such a beautiful watch
Rupa Sister I like your veena vadan. I love music.Really You are Great for me.very Nice. please make more videos.
Really amazing I just excited to see
Fabulous channel, performers and music
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Both are superb :) Thanks for the video.
Jaw fucking dropping phenomenal sitar player I got so inspired
Very instructive
Super interesting! Thank you
Awsome much appreciation ,
any muscical instrument played with feeling is thank you
This is a brilliant video in many ways. Melodical Differences can be heard live on top of that Sitar sounds deep and full of life. 🎸 on the other hand is more of a light music instrument. Nothing against 🎸 in anyway. I love both instruments. She is amazing at what she is doing. I am glad you chose one of the best suitar players in the world to demonstrate it. Thanks
Such an absolutely superb and accomplished musician RoopaJi 👏 🙏🏽
Thank you!
Thanks for the wonderful feedback on this video.
How she played the Sitar in Teen Taal (16th note cycle) was mesmerizing
बहुत सुंदर so beautiful।
I wish this conversation went on for very long
I think there's a lot of unexplored territory with the sitar. Rock bands have used them. The Beatles of course, The Stones, Les Claypool. But, I'd like to see some fusion jazz with sitar. I think that would be cool.
God I hope I never hear jazz sitar fusion
Why? They've done every other instrument. Jazz violin, jazz synthesizer, then you got the vibes, flute, trumpet with effects, electric guitars and whatever else. It's as though they want to do jazz with every instrument. Everyone except one.
Hey look. I just found bagpipes jazz. ruclips.net/video/2nekk4tJoqo/видео.html
I guess my concern is that there's an increasingly higher inclination to seek extreme novelty in music rather than taking the time to build an interest from its primitive states. It's a low grade gratification for the viewer and it kinda just leads nowhere except to another messy cultural crossover. And it doesn't stop there!!
Extreme novelty? So what would that be? Whenever I think of novel approaches to music, I tend to think of artists who are highly respected. Bela Fleck comes to mind. The Beatles, Pink Floyd, György Ligeti. With music I always tend to think "why not?" rather than "should I?". There's no rules. You have incredible freedom to do whatever kind of crazy sound you want. Personally, I'd like to hear more extreme novelty.
Also, I found it. Someone is doing jazz fusion with a sitar. ruclips.net/video/E36mrhSaXT4/видео.html
Of course there's the freedom but why is that such a good thing? Take an existing discipline and bend a couple of subtle rules...then you're cooking with gas!
Two excellent artists.
what amazing skills ! Both of them
I don't know why but when i hear Sitar sound then I feel so relaxed n become stress free
sitar have so much feel in its sound... and guiter sounds exotic.
Great video. I learned a lot.
Very good Lec-Dem. 👍👏
What a wonderful video.
The way she is explaining is heaven in itself ..
What a lovely combination ❤❤❤
They are many great and dynamic musicians in the world.I do bow and respect all of them,but there are only a handfull of them who can touch your heart and soul.Roopa Panesar is one of them,very great dynamic and divine gem who has that art of touching people's heart and soul with her divine music.
More of these two please. It was pleasant, elevating, inspiring, and motivating.
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Loved it♥️
That was mesmerizing
Awesome video!
I love this
Ropa Panesar is beautiful
So?
youtube needs more of these
It is quite tight. Thank you.