I was on the crew that painted the ceiling in the early 80s. Interestingly we discovered in the space between the ceiling and the roof an attic. It was full of hundreds of remains in simple metal containers, each with a typewritten label of who and when. And they were sized appropriately for children or adults.
That is such a beautiful place! Thank you for taking us. So glad it was restored. So much like a museum as well. It would have been a tragedy to have been lost.
53 years ago...as a teenager, my brother, best friend, since Kindergarten, and I visited that place. We were 16, had our driver's license's, and we were on the go....all over the Bay Area. It was only open a few hours, on selected days, each week....and practically a derelict at that time. Cold....semi dark in places, though painted white inside....and Creepy...plaster falling out in various places....almost, but not quite a complete mess. The Neptune Society bought it...and have made it, probably, the most expensive place for the interment of cremains, in the Bay Area. At the time I didn't even know famous people were there. Now, with the additional buildings and gardens....the total restoration, and the colorful paint....that beauty of that place amazes me. I've even attended one funeral and one memorial there...in the past (the 1980's)....earlier in it's resurrection.
I imagine these 'holding places' will increase in numbers in the coming years. With the huge increase in creamations. This is a rare jewel in resting places, not to have anying comperable any time soon, Thank you for the tour,..😊
Thanks for the tour. I've visited this place before with a good friend who's fathers remains are entombed there. A very fascinating place to visit, if a bit creepy. The place reeks of history.
So glad to see you visit the Argo Room! My husband and I are to be inurned in the “porthole” wreath niche in the upper left which is visible for only two seconds, but I could see briefly a ghostly image of our photos on the left of the window, the corner of the label on one of our bottles of Cabernet Sauvignon we bottled back in 1991 on the right, and in the middle, a faint view of the one-gallon oak cask in which our ashes will be commingled. In front at the bottom, the shiny object is a cassette tape of the “Three Degrees” song “When Will I See You Again,” which was playing on the night we met. 49 years so far, and counting. Cheers!
I visited there back in the mid-90's. It didn't look anything like that. There were even regular pull open glass doors at the entrance! I went there on a weekday late morning. I was the only one in there (living!). There was a boombox in the middle of the floor playing creepy church organ music. The whole time I was in there, I felt like I was being "watched" and didn't feel alone in there! Very creepy. They've really fixed it up since I was there. And by the way, Chet Helms was a concert promoter and a good friend of Janis Joplin. He brought her from TX to San Francisco and introduced her around and she got in with Big Brother and the Holding Company thanks to him.
Thank you so much for taking us on this tour. I thoroughly enjoyed it and appreciate your efforts. The place is incredible! Thanks again, Tony and God bless you……🌝
I'm so glad you did this video. Ever since I was a little kid in the 1960s, I wondered what was inside. The stories we kids told each other about it only added to its mysterious creepiness.
Wow! Just...wow. This is architectural beauty at it's best. Absolutely stunning and mesmerizing. Every inch has been meticulously restored with every turn being equally as visually breathtaking as the last. A real grand beauty. Thank you for allowing us to accompany you and sharing this magnificent craftsmanship with all of us, good Sir. 😊
Another awesome vid! Thanks for mentioning the prices, its an interesting part of the equation of a niche.... To niche, or not to niche, that's the question! Thanks!
If you don’t know who Chet is then you definitely don’t know San Francisco or its counterculture. He was very loved . Thank you for sharing and showing his niche ❤
So beautiful and peaceful. I am sorry they have used so many of the lead light windows for spaces for people as those windows not blocked off seemed to reflect - a beautiful effect.
This was one place I considered for my eternity. I then considered Cypress Lawn in Colma. I finally settled on Cherokee Memorial Park in Lodi, CA. I have family buried there. I will be buried just steps away from my uncle. I spent my summer in Lodi when I was growing up. My grandparents lived there. I spent my summers with them. That town is still, and will always be, very special to me. I also opted against cremation. I am instead opting for a traditional ground burial.
It sounds like this place is open to the public, so just go there and ENTER, and you're entered!!! Now if you have a lot of money, when you die, you could be Intered there!!!
Hey Tyler❤️ I Don t know why this stuff happens but too plow this place under would have been a horrible mistake. The stained glass was amazing. The Urns were awesome. My fav was the one that looked like the building❤️ Must have cost a fortune🙂 Thanks for the tour❤️
I know someone in there. He was the in the convention center business. Brought a lotta people together in San Francisco from all over the world. He has a pyramid urn and a teddy bear. It’s a beautiful place. Been there a few times.
I grew up in SF at the other end of Stanyan. I took swimming lessons as a kid in the 70's at Rossi pool. Never knew it was the spot of the cremation building.
Thank you for this video. The Columbarium is certainly much nicer than when I visited. I believe the Neptune Society had just purchased the Columbarium. The inside was rather dark and foreboding. Don't recall the state of repairs, if any at that time. Walls seemed very gray. It was open only on certain days and limited hours. I had driven into the parking area on a whim to just look at the building. I had seen it several times in passing by and had no idea what the building was. It happened to be open that day. When I went inside and saw what the building was, my first thought was what a great place and idea. And the only "cemetery" still in the City. The Neptune Society has done a beautiful job of restoring this beautiful place, inside and out. Have really done the place proud. Question: Where can one get information about internment in the Columbarium?
Lovely building. Please please move the camera slower and more steady. Would love to be able to read, the reflections are a challenge already. This is a beautiful building, thankyou
I guess it is important enough to some people to be stored in a place like this. My family and i will be happy to feed the worms. I prefer to spend that money on me while i am alive were i can enjoy it.
Awesome, just totally Awesome! These older buildings definitely had class. Those older urns ⚱️ and bronze niche covers are really fascinating. $120,000.00 for a niche!!!??? Really? One question; I noticed a few of the older bronze niche covers, that had no names inscribed. Do you know if, there were no urns in those spots, or did the family requested anonymity? Awesome walking tour, thank you very much Tony, this was one of your best videos. Have a great day. 😊
I am from the east coast all my life and I never heard the story of the cemetery when they moved bodies seems like an interesting story maybe someone could do some investigation on the project, I am 76 years old, and I never heard of this!
the bodies being moved was years ago in San Francisco roughly 1900 - 1940. They wanted to start developing the city more so they outlawed new burials closed cemeteries and moved them to a city next-door to them called Colma. From what I understand there was a $10 relocation fee and families that didn't pay it or couldn't pay it. Their loved ones got put in mass graves in the city of Colma in one of the new cemeteries at the time. That columbarium was spared but the cemetery it was located in was closed and bodies removed from there. To this day there's only a couple of cemeteries left in the city of San Francisco. One of them is mission Dolores, and the other one is the national military cemetery in the Presidio. And from time to time people who are renovating old houses, they buy in San Francisco that are maybe digging up their basement, one time came across the coffin of a little girl left behind by mistake 100 years prior.
A friend of mine is inurned in there somewhere. Karl R. Mason. DOD June 9th 2020. I have contacted the columbarium several times to get the location of his niche. However, they never respond to my inquiries.
Yes, they keep adding spots. I don’t know if you noticed there was a couple spots in the video where you might see a random bank of glass niches.? And they building a whole new smaller building next to it for the future.
“Kings built tombs more splendid than the houses of the living and counted the names of their descent dearer than the names of their sons.” -J. R. R. Tolkien
Probably originally lit by gasolier lights so I doubt there are any plugins for a Glade plugins. I'm surprised the 1906 earthquake didn't damage the building.
Wow! Although I have no wish to be cremated, that is the most beautiful columbarium I have ever seen! So light, and with stunning stained glass here and there. The colour, attention to detail and design makes my head spin. I love how each cabinet has such lovely wood then really stunning gold writing on the glass. Someone has had their work cut out over the years to be sure it all matched the others! I think the bright green y blue vase was made out of brass? And then because it’s not cleaned verdigris has set in. Sad, but it does set it apart from the others. I like the man who had his cat with him. And why not? If that was the love of his life he wanted with him. I was horrified to read at the start how bodies were dug up and ashes removed….what was that in aid of? I’m in the U.K. so don’t know the history back then….was cremation not allowed? I know some Christians don’t/didn’t like it because they believe by burial the complete body will rise again on the day of Resurrection, Christ’s second coming.( I’m Christian spiritualist by the way) which is funny in a way as the burial service refers to us as having come from dust and so we go back to dust 🙄🤔…but then by the same token cremains are already dust, so I don’t see the problem!? But I don’t want to get into a religious debate, our ideas all change with each generation I think. I’m REALLY grateful to you both for sharing this glorious building and it’s residents. May they rest peacefully. Take care, and warmest wishes from across the pond! 🙋♀️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🥰💐👍🦉🦉🦋🦋🦋💐
Well, the bodies being moved was years ago in San Francisco roughly 1900 - 1940. They wanted to start developing the city more so they outlawed new burials closed cemeteries and moved them to a city next-door to them called Colma. From what I understand there was a $10 relocation fee and families that didn’t pay it or couldn’t pay it. Their loved ones got put in mass graves in the city of Colma in one of the new cemeteries at the time. That columbarium was spared but the cemetery it was located in was closed and bodies removed from there. To this day there’s only a couple of cemeteries left in the city of San Francisco. One of them is mission Dolores, and the other one is the national military cemetery in the Presidio.
@@helencheadle5285 there were bodies left behind by mistake. We’re not sure who or where but there was a story in the media, a few years ago of somebody who bought an old house in San Francisco, and was digging up the basement during a home renovation and came across a coffin of a little girl. So yes, some bodies were left behind by mistake and things built over them.
It's very impressive. Hope they get more help so they can catch up with their perpetual care of some of the niches. Anyway, these people that you randomly hovered over have very interesting stories. Aulerich-Sugai was an artist who succumbed to HIV and Botkin's mother was a convicted murderess who poisoned 2 women. Also, she named her son Beverly. Highly interesting. Thanks so much.
I was on the crew that painted the ceiling in the early 80s. Interestingly we discovered in the space between the ceiling and the roof an attic. It was full of hundreds of remains in simple metal containers, each with a typewritten label of who and when. And they were sized appropriately for children or adults.
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I wonder if those were unclaimed?
Harold, if you would like to talk about that experience I would love to have you on the channel sometime.
@@CryptDoor Sure. I'm obviously retired but can use Zoom. I don't know how interesting I can be, but I'll do my best.
That building is absolutely beautiful. I am so glad that it was saved and restored. Breathtaking!
I lived in San Francisco for about 4 years. How did I miss this? Such a beautiful place
So glad they restored it. It is truly a beautiful place.
It’s like a museum of lives, really love seeing how each unit is arranged and decorated. Great location, nice work!
Thank you very much!
I lived in San Francisco since 1986. I didn't know it has a columbarium. Thank you for making this video!
That was spectacular, I could be in there for hours. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
That is such a beautiful place! Thank you for taking us. So glad it was restored. So much like a museum as well. It would have been a tragedy to have been lost.
Yes, it would have.
Absolutely magnificent. A gem of Neo-clasic architecture. So pleased it has been restored. Thank you for this video tour.
Glad you enjoyed it
53 years ago...as a teenager, my brother, best friend, since Kindergarten, and I visited that place. We were 16, had our driver's license's, and we were on the go....all over the Bay Area. It was only open a few hours, on selected days, each week....and practically a derelict at that time. Cold....semi dark in places, though painted white inside....and Creepy...plaster falling out in various places....almost, but not quite a complete mess. The Neptune Society bought it...and have made it, probably, the most expensive place for the interment of cremains, in the Bay Area. At the time I didn't even know famous people were there. Now, with the additional buildings and gardens....the total restoration, and the colorful paint....that beauty of that place amazes me. I've even attended one funeral and one memorial there...in the past (the 1980's)....earlier in it's resurrection.
I was trying to find pictures of it in it’s abandoned state, but couldn’t find any amazingly
I imagine these 'holding places' will increase in numbers in the coming years. With the huge increase in creamations. This is a rare jewel in resting places, not to have anying comperable any time soon, Thank you for the tour,..😊
The building has a soul. Its so beautiful.
Thank you for showing us this marvelous location💜🏛🪦🥰
My pleasure 😊
That is really beautiful.
Glad it was able to be restored back to life.
Thank you for the tour.
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Thank you for watching.
@@CryptDoor Your welcome.
Cannot wait to see inside!
thank you so much and thanks to those who saved and renovated this beautiful resting place.
Thanks for the tour. I've visited this place before with a good friend who's fathers remains are entombed there. A very fascinating place to visit, if a bit creepy. The place reeks of history.
One of your most beautiful video!!
Thank you!
Let us thumbs up for him
So glad to see you visit the Argo Room! My husband and I are to be inurned in the “porthole” wreath niche in the upper left which is visible for only two seconds, but I could see briefly a ghostly image of our photos on the left of the window, the corner of the label on one of our bottles of Cabernet Sauvignon we bottled back in 1991 on the right, and in the middle, a faint view of the one-gallon oak cask in which our ashes will be commingled. In front at the bottom, the shiny object is a cassette tape of the “Three Degrees” song “When Will I See You Again,” which was playing on the night we met. 49 years so far, and counting. Cheers!
That is absolutely the coolest. Thanks Tony
Glad you like it
@@CryptDoor I think if I had bought a niche ahead of time my sign would say... attraction coming soon....lol
I visited there back in the mid-90's. It didn't look anything like that. There were even regular pull open glass doors at the entrance! I went there on a weekday late morning. I was the only one in there (living!). There was a boombox in the middle of the floor playing creepy church organ music. The whole time I was in there, I felt like I was being "watched" and didn't feel alone in there! Very creepy. They've really fixed it up since I was there. And by the way, Chet Helms was a concert promoter and a good friend of Janis Joplin. He brought her from TX to San Francisco and introduced her around and she got in with Big Brother and the Holding Company thanks to him.
Right on thanks for the info!
OMG. This is so beautiful. Glad it got resored.
Me too!
Thank you so much for taking us on this tour. I thoroughly enjoyed it and appreciate your efforts. The place is incredible! Thanks again, Tony and God bless you……🌝
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm so glad you did this video. Ever since I was a little kid in the 1960s, I wondered what was inside. The stories we kids told each other about it only added to its mysterious creepiness.
My pleasure I plan on doing a revisit at some point soon
Gorgeous, Tony! And what a story! Thanks,Tony!❤❤❤
what a beautiful place we have these in the UK 🇬🇧
Wow! Just...wow. This is architectural beauty at it's best. Absolutely stunning and mesmerizing. Every inch has been meticulously restored with every turn being equally as visually breathtaking as the last. A real grand beauty. Thank you for allowing us to accompany you and sharing this magnificent craftsmanship with all of us, good Sir. 😊
Another awesome vid! Thanks for mentioning the prices, its an interesting part of the equation of a niche....
To niche, or not to niche, that's the question! Thanks!
This place is just beautiful. Thank you for sharing. Wonder how much it is to be laid to rest here?
As little as $6000 and as much as 120,000. Just depends on what you get.
I missed it on the live chat thanks to my internet., But what I saw was fantastic thank you Tony.
Beau Travail comme d'habitude🔬🍀🌌Toujours un Moment de Détente🎬Alex France🙏🌌
Great video. I could spend a week in a place like this.
You and me both!
Some are spending a lot more than a week in there.
Stunning! Thank goodness it was saved! Really breathtaking architecture! A true treasure!!!
Yes it was! Thanks!
This is truly amazing! Never seen anything like it!
Absolutely amazing. One of the best you have filmed ❤
Thank you!
Cool place! Interesting urns, etc.
It sure is!
If you don’t know who Chet is then you definitely don’t know San Francisco or its counterculture. He was very loved . Thank you for sharing and showing his niche ❤
Absolutely beautiful….thank you
Absolutely a breathtaking trip!!!!
So beautiful and peaceful. I am sorry they have used so many of the lead light windows for spaces for people as those windows not blocked off seemed to reflect - a beautiful effect.
This was one place I considered for my eternity. I then considered Cypress Lawn in Colma. I finally settled on Cherokee Memorial Park in Lodi, CA. I have family buried there. I will be buried just steps away from my uncle. I spent my summer in Lodi when I was growing up. My grandparents lived there. I spent my summers with them. That town is still, and will always be, very special to me. I also opted against cremation. I am instead opting for a traditional ground burial.
A beautiful building. Thank you for showing it. To Ontario Canada
Such a beautiful and peaceful place.
Thanks again Tony!
Any time! And thank you!
It is such a beautiful place
It seems bigger on the inside i was surprised it is beautiful. Cool i like it
What a beautiful place, wow!
It really is!
Didn't know this even existed!
I never heard of a Calumbarium. What an interesting place. It looks like a building straight out of ancient Rome.
Breathtaking
I would love to just stand in there and sing! I bet the acoustics are amazing!!!
What an amazing place I would love to be entered there
It sounds like this place is open to the public, so just go there and ENTER, and you're entered!!! Now if you have a lot of money, when you die, you could be Intered there!!!
Absolutely Beautiful!!
Thank you!
Hey Tyler❤️ I Don t know why this stuff happens but too plow this place under would have been a horrible mistake. The stained glass was amazing. The Urns were awesome. My fav was the one that looked like the building❤️ Must have cost a fortune🙂 Thanks for the tour❤️
I think so too
Such a gorgeous building.
Can we have a part two of this amazing place? ❤
Yes, I’m going to go back at some point in the near future.
You have access to all these great places in Cali.They could make for some great videos.
Fascinating and historic. Thanks.
My pleasure!
what a beautiful resting community
WOW !
I sang at a couple of memorial services there during the 90s.
Amazing!! Thank you! 💓
You're so welcome!
Absolutely beautiful
So beautiful.. 👍
exquisite
Used to live on 2nd Ave, walked past it for years and never went in
It truly is a beautiful building
I know someone in there. He was the in the convention center business. Brought a lotta people together in San Francisco from all over the world. He has a pyramid urn and a teddy bear. It’s a beautiful place. Been there a few times.
How awful that they moved such a large graveyard..lovely building thanks for letting us see inside
As always, wonderful job
Thank you. 🙏
Very nice Tony 👍👍👍
I grew up in SF at the other end of Stanyan. I took swimming lessons as a kid in the 70's at Rossi pool. Never knew it was the spot of the cremation building.
Nice
Thanks
Beautiful place
It really is!
Absolu!ely beautiful!
Very!
Cypress Lawn is in Colma... The remains were transported back to San Francisco for final resting. Beautiful location... I know it well.
Thank you for this video. The Columbarium is certainly much nicer than when I visited. I believe the Neptune Society had just purchased the Columbarium. The inside was rather dark and foreboding. Don't recall the state of repairs, if any at that time. Walls seemed very gray. It was open only on certain days and limited hours. I had driven into the parking area on a whim to just look at the building. I had seen it several times in passing by and had no idea what the building was. It happened to be open that day. When I went inside and saw what the building was, my first thought was what a great place and idea. And the only "cemetery" still in the City. The Neptune Society has done a beautiful job of restoring this beautiful place, inside and out. Have really done the place proud.
Question: Where can one get information about internment in the Columbarium?
My mom, who chose to be out of my life, used to commonly swim at Rossi pool
Im glad i got to enjoy SF while it was still a nice place to visit. Now, even tourists are staying away. 😮
Really cool place. You could probably make a week of it or more.
Hey Tony
Hello! 😃
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Very nice place
It really is!
Where to watch Tyler's version? I want more of this place!)
He doesn’t have a channel. But is working on maybe getting some kind of social media
@@CryptDoor got it. Thanks
Lovely building. Please please move the camera slower and more steady. Would love to be able to read, the reflections are a challenge already. This is a beautiful building, thankyou
I guess it is important enough to some people to be stored in a place like this. My family and i will be happy to feed the worms. I prefer to spend that money on me while i am alive were i can enjoy it.
Awesome, just totally Awesome! These older buildings definitely had class. Those older urns ⚱️ and bronze niche covers are really fascinating. $120,000.00 for a niche!!!??? Really? One question; I noticed a few of the older bronze niche covers, that had no names inscribed. Do you know if, there were no urns in those spots, or did the family requested anonymity?
Awesome walking tour, thank you very much Tony, this was one of your best videos. Have a great day. 😊
Probably ones that we’re not marked Probably didn’t have anything but not positive.
@cryptdoor OK, just curious. Thank you very much for getting back to me. Have a great day 😀
I am from the east coast all my life and I never heard the story of the cemetery when they moved bodies seems like an interesting story maybe someone could do some investigation on the project, I am 76 years old, and I never heard of this!
the bodies being moved was years ago in San Francisco roughly 1900 -
1940. They wanted to start developing the city more so they outlawed new burials closed cemeteries and moved them to a city next-door to them called Colma. From what I understand there was a $10 relocation fee and families that didn't pay it or couldn't pay it. Their loved ones got put in mass graves in the city of Colma in one of the new cemeteries at the time. That columbarium was spared but the cemetery it was located in was closed and bodies removed from there. To this day there's only a couple of cemeteries left in the city of San Francisco. One of them is mission Dolores, and the other one is the national military cemetery in the Presidio. And from time to time people who are renovating old houses, they buy in San Francisco that are maybe digging up their basement, one time came across the coffin of a little girl left behind by mistake 100 years prior.
A friend of mine is inurned in there somewhere. Karl R. Mason. DOD June 9th 2020. I have contacted the columbarium several times to get the location of his niche. However, they never respond to my inquiries.
$100,000 ?...WOW !... You'd have to have money to burn... (no pun intended)
Haha yup.
I wonder if there is room for any new urns?
Yes, they keep adding spots. I don’t know if you noticed there was a couple spots in the video where you might see a random bank of glass niches.? And they building a whole new smaller building next to it for the future.
No mention of Emmett? The Columbarium owes so much to him.
@@sheltontodd8122 columbarium,gave Emmett a place in there,he sold it for $100,000 retired and moved somewhere in the south, they were not happy
“Kings built tombs more splendid than the houses of the living and counted the names of their descent dearer than the names of their sons.”
-J. R. R. Tolkien
I’ve never seen anything like this before. It’s just beautiful . We’ve always buried our dead. 6 feet down. Is that customary in California too?
All over the US
@@CryptDoor okay I wasn’t sure. Thank you
@@Persimmon-l7c you don’t have cremation where you’re at?
Chet Helms founded and managed Big Brother and the Holding Company, and signed Janis Joplin as the lead singer.
Are there some that have coffins?
That building is all cremations
Probably originally lit by gasolier lights so I doubt there are any plugins for a Glade plugins. I'm surprised the 1906 earthquake didn't damage the building.
Probably don’t need any glade plug-ins there since it’s all cremations.
Wow! Although I have no wish to be cremated, that is the most beautiful columbarium I have ever seen! So light, and with stunning stained glass here and there. The colour, attention to detail and design makes my head spin. I love how each cabinet has such lovely wood then really stunning gold writing on the glass. Someone has had their work cut out over the years to be sure it all matched the others! I think the bright green y blue vase was made out of brass? And then because it’s not cleaned verdigris has set in. Sad, but it does set it apart from the others. I like the man who had his cat with him. And why not? If that was the love of his life he wanted with him.
I was horrified to read at the start how bodies were dug up and ashes removed….what was that in aid of? I’m in the U.K. so don’t know the history back then….was cremation not allowed? I know some Christians don’t/didn’t like it because they believe by burial the complete body will rise again on the day of Resurrection, Christ’s second coming.(
I’m Christian spiritualist by the way) which is funny in a way as the burial service refers to us as having come from dust and so we go back to dust 🙄🤔…but then by the same token cremains are already dust, so I don’t see the problem!? But I don’t want to get into a religious debate, our ideas all change with each generation I think.
I’m REALLY grateful to you both for sharing this glorious building and it’s residents. May they rest peacefully.
Take care, and warmest wishes from across the pond! 🙋♀️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🥰💐👍🦉🦉🦋🦋🦋💐
Well, the bodies being moved was years ago in San Francisco roughly 1900 - 1940. They wanted to start developing the city more so they outlawed new burials closed cemeteries and moved them to a city next-door to them called Colma. From what I understand there was a $10 relocation fee and families that didn’t pay it or couldn’t pay it. Their loved ones got put in mass graves in the city of Colma in one of the new cemeteries at the time. That columbarium was spared but the cemetery it was located in was closed and bodies removed from there. To this day there’s only a couple of cemeteries left in the city of San Francisco. One of them is mission Dolores, and the other one is the national military cemetery in the Presidio.
Thankyou for that! Appreciated 👍🙋♀️
@@helencheadle5285 there were bodies left behind by mistake. We’re not sure who or where but there was a story in the media, a few years ago of somebody who bought an old house in San Francisco, and was digging up the basement during a home renovation and came across a coffin of a little girl. So yes, some bodies were left behind by mistake and things built over them.
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It's very impressive. Hope they get more help so they can catch up with their perpetual care of some of the niches. Anyway, these people that you randomly hovered over have very interesting stories. Aulerich-Sugai was an artist who succumbed to HIV and Botkin's mother was a convicted murderess who poisoned 2 women. Also, she named her son Beverly. Highly interesting. Thanks so much.
I looked up the artist u mentioned. He designed his own urn several years before his death. Fascinating art, too.