Honda Goldwing :- Clutch Fluid Change.
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2024
- Service Schedule: Changing the Clutch Fluid on a Honda GL1500 Goldwing.
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As everyone has stated below, Excellent job of teaching old and young alike the easy and foolproof method of bleeding a hyd clutch 👍😎. IF (big if) IF I were to add anything it would to add some anti-seize to the threads of the cover screws. As stated, water ~ moisture invades brake fluid at a molecular level and H2O is readily available anyways. Steel and Aluminum are dissimilar metals with the presence of the most common electrolyte, electrons will flow and well, you know the rest. Once the cover is off and the reservoir is empty, clean the screw threads, and then coat with a small amount of anti-seize. Run them in & out of the housing body a couple of times, and clean off the excess anti-seize that can get everywhere. Screws and housing are now ready to go back together when the bleeding is done, without worrying about getting anti-seize in the fluid reservoir. I like to use anti-seize on a number of steel/AL thread match ups. Things what I consider Not Critical Torque wrench values. Lubrication of any sort on threads can have an effect on actual torque applied to bolts and such. Just my .02 cents only. Great video as usual 👍😎🤠
Hi buddy, thanks for your input, just something that might interest you with your sensibilities on anti-seize, some time ago I discovered Wurth AL1100, often referred to as Alluslip, it's a silvery white in colour and just the aluminium version of regular copper anti-seize, works really well and combats some of the issues of galvanic corrosion!
@@Moonfleet41 Cool, thanks (great channel, and you've been doing it awhile :-) Thank you )
Can you use dot 4 car brake fluid (synthetic) from auto zone?
it's working fine so far..
Gordon Ramsay if he worked on motorcycles.
simple job, but still satisfying. I know the conventional way works but i have to say that i've developed a great preference for bleeder wrenches that have a one way check valve in them. Just crack the bleeder valve and work the lever and/or pedal and when you're done close it and done. Super easy making an easy job even quicker! :)
Good call on the bleeder, there are some great products we can use now, but I do like to pass on the old school analogue method for those who may not have the gadgets... thanks for your constant support, it's always good to hear from you buddy!
Some clutches don’t use brake fluid but instead use hydraulic mineral oil so virtually never need to be changed.
Quite right, standard on Harley Davidsons and some BMW's now.. with all the conscience of environment these days i imagine it'll become industry wide eventually..!
Thanks so much I followed your tutorial and repaired my clutch especially about bleeding repeat repeat and repeat again and it finally gain pressure.
Most welcome, glad to help.
Thanks, appreciate your methods and positivity from Tucson Az.
My pleasure Sir, thank you for your feedback!
Always love the basic maintenance videos Dell, hope the recovery is going well. Cheers Dave in Canada
Hey Dave, thanks buddy, I'm certainly on the mend now, and making progress... thanks so much for your kind support.
@@Moonfleet41 Is the '07 GL1800 done the same way??
@@seatime674 I can't confirm that as ive never done one.. but i imagine it's not much different as long as it's not DCT..!
@@Moonfleet41 Just found out it's a little more complicated you have to take the lower front cowling off and remove the vapor canister and it's a tighter working area but the concept is the same
Great video, keep them coming! I have a 1994 GL1500 and a 2000 GL1500F Valkyrie. Cheers from Massachusetts USA.
Hey Larry, thanks for your feedback, it's great to hear from you and glad you enjoyed the video!
I just done my brakes with new pads on my Goldwing 1500.. just getting to my clutch!! Done clutch on my 1986 Honda 1100 , fluid just dried out and out in new seals in it… month ago! 1986 Honda 700 was completely done in spring but this winter, going do forks rebuild.
Hey buddy.. if the clutch fluid vanished (as is not uncommon), then it doesn't "dry out", it usually indicates a leaking slave cylinder seal and the fluid is going into the engine oil... if you've replaced the seals in the slave cylinder then you've already fixed it, but if you only changed the master seals then maybe keep an eye on the fluid level ?!, if it drops again then you know what it is... also helps to change the oil of this has happened, but im sure you already did that too.. Just saying, i know you know your stuff, hope you don't mind.!
@@Moonfleet41 … I don’t mind at all!! What you said made sense.. I certainly keep my eye on the fluid level.. I was boggled why sudden the clutch quit.. there’s no leak external so assuming internal… decided do the seals while at it.. it is mind boggling. Reason I said dried out is cause many fluids is mixed with water in factories, cut the cost. Years ago, when this crap started, I found couple brakes froze when left outside. Since then I’m always skipical when I buy more brake/clutch fluids. You make lot more sense though, I been watching my oil and clutch fluid . I love that bike as it’s classic and powerful. Doesn’t hurt repeated advice as class 101!! We do forget… Lol
Thanks for sharing. I have a 1985 golden wing that has sat for years. The clutch feels like a brake lever. I'm hoping bleeding will do the trick. Otherwise I'll wait for rebuilding video.
Questions: why does this fluid and brake dito really need changing? What happens to it over time? Where does the water contamination really come from? what does a "bad" fluid do, or don't do?
So clutch/brake fluid is hydroscopic, it absorbes water. The more water it injests the lower the boiling temperature becomes, if it gets too much water it will start to rust your entire brake system from the inside out
I had a Kawasaki Nomad that the fluid got so bad in hot weather my clutch would not work until it cooled.@@dfrmotorsports4591
Thanks!
You are most welcome, thank you for your kind support.
Bravo Well Done !!!! again another great Video that will help me and my Goldwing !! Cheers
Brilliant once again Del !
Thanks Cliff!
You may know, my old man has a 1985 Gl1200 and the clutch works great until the bike is hot and he stops goes to drive off after maybe 30 minutes and the clutch won't engage
Ah, the old clutch-rubbers-leakdown test eh? - central London, two up, luggage, ten pumps to find a gear & 3 secs 'til your 'auto launch' jumps the lights - whether you like it or not'. Fun on a Guzzi T3 (the shame, the shame) even better on a 1500 Wing! Go for it my son, the 'FRO Vid' could well win an Emmy for 'sound, language & Pen's freestyle 'ed 'ittin : ) xx
Auto launch? You've been there too aye brother?! You get it just right if you can time the lights, like a giant twist and go!
Ah, so true. The nicely timed 'twist & go's are indeed a great buzz; but it's usually the 'Oh shi - too late' - cough, phut, wet-dog wobble & stop with freestyle splits' that tend to remind you that old pumper jet diaphragms are rarely your best friend in dense traffic : )
As always Del another common sense approach to a basic maintenance job.
Keep safe
Nick Australia
Hey Nick, good to hear from you mate, it's raining and cold here this week with forecast for more rain and wind over the next couple of weeks, so it looks like we've parceled up the summer and sent it on it's way back to you down under! So enjoy mate and don't get too sunburnt!
Now I've got my wing these videos will be VERY useful
Great to hear, congratulations mate!
Between Delboys Garage and Fort9 , you’ve got heaps of quality content.
Thank you so much for your kind words, and I'm honoured to be associated with Fort9, that's a great Channel!
I cannot imagine riding something that big and heavy!
It's fine, as long as you don't look down..!
Turning sharply at low speeds is one of very few handling problems.
It was helpful
ありがとう！
That looked easy, nice video... My old VF400 had a hydraulic clutch. I had that bike for many years and never even changed the oil or filters. Those were the days :)
Hello Del, cancerous dave "not a stunt rider" Coates here, excellent video as always.. The bandit is no more. Now with a hyosung gv650 (sv650 in drag) very underrated bike. Current project is to fuel inject it (later ones were, this is carbs) using throttle bodies from an sv, and a speeduino... I'll keep you apprised... 😂
Blimey mate.. i didn't know you had one of those, i saw one at a bike meet a few years back and the chap told me what he paid for it brand new, the guy next to him had just paid the same money for a 7 year old Gladius.. had a good sniff round it for a while and was amazed at the build quality for the price.. it's no worse than bike built maybe 20 years ago, most of which who are still on the road today...!!! love the fact you can rob SV and Gladius parts ! Good luck with it and let us know how you get on mate..! Hope you're feeling well and we're both thinking of you with the difficulties you're going through. D&Pxx
@@Moonfleet41 the sad misconception is they're Chinese... Korean, like Samsung LG and hyundai...Suzuki gave them free reign over the parts bin after they wanted to up the unit price they charge suzuki for building their engines...it is what it is, goes well enough and much easier for a short arse like me.. 😂 😂
Thanks so much. Bloody awesome!
You're welcome!
Hello I have 2014 honda valkyrie 1800. Where can I find clutch bleeder valve or slave cylinder located?
Tensioning the levers after bleeding is a new one on me, good point, thanks :)
Cool video Del.. Clutch fluid was nasty.. I need to get another motorcycle lift. My lift is a Handy air lift but I'm thinking about getting an electric one this time like yours.
Good idea mate, you won't regret the purchase, I've always worked on large bikes so a decent quality lift is essential!
@@Moonfleet41 I agree that's why I bought the (brand) Handy S.A.M. 1200 air lift. Here Handy is the top of the line brand. I had a Titan brand and it was that good.. But it's time for a second one so I'm thinking electric this time.
Great video as always. These gave me the confidence to do my own on my ‘96 Trophy. What came out was filthy black! One thing though, whenever I pulled in the clutch lever, a literal fountain would shoot up out of the reservoir. I ended up having to put the rubber gasket cover back in place every time so I didn’t get fluid on everything. That didn’t happen with either of the brake reservoirs. Is that normal, or am I in for a more in-depth rebuild?
No, that's not uncommon, brake and clutch reservoirs are the same thing, just a fluid pump...they can all squirt up fluid when you pump the lever too.. that's why i covered the bike with a blanket.. as long as the system is operating normally once the caps are all back on and buttoned up it should be fine.. check the fluid after maybe a month and see if it's black again.. if so, it looks like your seals are wearing out, so time to chuck a seal kit in the master, (then may as well do the slave to..! )
@@Moonfleet41 Oh yeah, the brakes are nice and crisp, and the clutch seems a bit easier, too! I know it had been several years between fluid changes, so I had planned to do another change this winter to make sure it’s all clean. Looking forward to your clutch reservoir system rebuild videos!
Great vidio looking forward to the rebuild video.
Thanks again for the Valkyrie compliment . I thought the float was to minimize the sloshing , decreasing bubbling. I have to say, I like your well ridden stealth fighter Wing. Cheers.
Thanks mate, am glad you like the ShedWing, it does get some looks and not all of them amused, specially the GoldWing Owner's Club!!
@@Moonfleet41 Smile and say, "Ride 'em, dont wear 'em!"
very helpful thanks a lot 😊👌🏍
Great vid and perfect timing i need to do this on my bmw r1200rt mu but aparently i need to use mineral oil in my clutch but not got a clue what oil to buy
Hi Mark, the mineral clutch and brake fluid (also used in Harleys) is generally referred to as DOT5 so take a look on the reservoir cap, if it says use DOT5 fluid stamped in it, then that's what you buy... it's easily identified visually as it's generally purple in colour or a shade of blue, rather than yellowy clear.. but if it says DOT5 on the reservoir cap, and DOT5 on the bottle, then you're good to go!
@@Moonfleet41 thanks buddy 👍
When you press clutch in to flush fluid, do you cover their reservoir every time or leave it open?
No point in covering it?
Well if the clutch doz fail del .....you have plenty rope on bike for a tow...😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉atb👍
Very true!
Hola amigo qué gran información nos das felicidades !!
Tengo una pregunta
El clutch de Mi goldwing 1500 cuando estoy en el tráfico después de unos 20 min usándolo se pone muy suave
Y debo parar para que se enfríe
Me detengo 10 min y vuelve a funcionar
Qué problema piensas que tenga ?
Ojalá puedas ayudarme con un consejo Gracias
Hola, no dejaste tu nombre! Los síntomas que usted describe podrían estar relacionados con el contenido de agua en el líquido del embrague.
El líquido de frenos y embrague absorbe el vapor de humedad del aire, esto significa que cuando el motor se calienta, el líquido del embrague cerca de las partes calientes del motor comenzará a hervir. Esto produce microburbujas de vapor en el líquido del embrague y la palanca se ablanda.
La solución es simplemente lavar y cambiar el líquido del embrague... esto probablemente solucionará el problema.
Todos los líquidos hidráulicos de frenos y embragues deben cambiarse cada dos años durante el servicio por este motivo.
Espero que eso te ayude. Buena suerte.
Del.
G'day Del, I bled the clutch on my GL1500 yesterday and I bled using your method. I left the lever cinched to the bar overnight, but I find very little pressure builds up, certainly not enough to disengage the clutch. Could the nipple be naffed and allowing air back in or just still needs more bleeding?
Hi Steve.. if you have a problem with the bleed valve sealing then it would let fluid out, not so much let air in... so it's more than likely you have air in the system still.. and clamping the lever in over night is for brakes not clutch... pulling the clutch in for long periods could be damaging to the clutch springs over time... so just bleed it through again and see if you can get some more air out.. if it's still a problem then you could try reverse bleeding it from the bleed valve upwards using a syringe... that always works well.! If you don't have a big syringe for that, i used one of there.. Here's a buy-now link... www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/oil-and-brake-fluid-inspection-syringe-200ml-120826?search=VS404&description=true Good luck with it buddy, hope you can get it sussed !
Everyday is a learning day Del. Love watching your top tips mate 👌 👍
Glad you enjoyed it mate!
Greetingz from the Netherlands 👍👍
" If I put E10 in clutch fluid, will it remove moisture "
But seriously, would be interested in a Video " E5 to E10 & mobilybikes".
Do those speed bleeders work for this?
You definitely need to rebuild the slave cylinder.
Great video Del and a good description of fluid entropy. It is so easy to forget about how old that fluid is. That is the first time I have heard of loading the brakes overnight for crispness tomorrow, I will try that, cheers!
Yeah, give it a try, it doesn't only work after servicing, you can do it any time.. strap the brake lever in over night, then feel it in the morning, it'll almost always feel crisper and more defined. !
hope all is well, D & P. From Colorado with love and respect.
Hey Richard, great to hear from you brother, thank you for your kind words, always good to hear from you!
Nice, how to video Del & Penny. Hope all is well, have a great week. Cheers
Thanks, you too mate, always good to hear form you, soon be summer for you so lots of riding in the sunshine..!
How do you dispose of that jar of dirty clutch fluid?
Im lucky enough to have a local recycle centre that takes old sump oil and automotive fluids, so i bottle up anything like that until i have a few gallons and take it over there.
Save it in a jar, great for starting fires in the fire pit... 😂
Always usefull information.
Thanks.👍🏼🇵🇹🇬🇧
Our pleasure!
Well I need to do it on my GL1500, too. Btw, I love your videos, i've just got a Scrambler too, that's how I found your fantastic channel. Is this your own bike Delboy?
Welcome aboard Dan, congratulations on your scrambler, and yes, the Wing is mine..
Best thing about Tuesday mornings? A vid from Del and Penny! 🏍👍🏍
Thanks Gary.. Hope you enjoyed it mate!
@@Moonfleet41
Most certainly, my friend. BTW, disposing of the old used fluid is never a problem in our house… I just sprinkle it in my mother in law’s cornflakes. Keeps her regular!
Hope you both are feeling ok there. Am fiddling with our helmets to fit new liners and blue tooth systems this week. You’d never think it would present so many fitment challenges. 🙄. Have a great week!
@@garya3056 Ha ha, good luck with that, i hare fitting anything (other then my head) into crash helmets, the bloody liners never go back in properly... be careful with the fluids on the MIL, specially if they're flammable and it's a Sunday.. a few sprouts and the old Doris walks past a naked flame (or walks past a flame naked), and you could have a very embarrassing fire department incident to explain..!
@@Moonfleet41 😂- doh! What’s the best way to get coffee off my laptop screen? Have a great week there.
I totally agree. It's like waiting for the next episode of your favourite tv series.
That old fluid needed a change. Ever so easy, even on a Gold Wing. That reminds me of my Triumph Trident 900: When was the last change?
Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
Sure thing, clutch is dead easy on these, which cannot be said for the brake fluid unfortunately the split system makes is a two person job.. that'll be coming soon and it is a bun fight..!
@@Moonfleet41 Looking forward how you manage the brake fluid on such a long bike, Del.
I tried alone with my longish scooter (Honda Silver Wing 600) and Combined Brake System, but my arms were way too short. In the end I got air into the system, as expected. With the help of another person it all worked perfectly again. New owner is happy.
Did my Bandit clutch(reverse bleed), it's SOoo smooth, just like new.
Lol I was like what? Clutch fluid every 2 years. Go out to my XSR900 and there's no clutch fluid reservoir. haha
Always fun remembering the sequences with clutch and brake bleeding 👍🏻☮❤
Cheers buddy.. hope it stops raining soon or ill be fitting some floats like a seaplane !
@@Moonfleet41
goose wing 😉
Dell in a previous video you put a lube on break piston to make it easier to pop them back in what was this please
Hi mate, generally the best if red rubber lube, it comes supplied in the kit if you buy your seal kits from Wemoto, but of course you can also use clean fresh brake fluid mate, works perfectly well and does the job!
@@Moonfleet41 Dell many thanks to you and Penny for your advice.
Keep up the great work ride safe
@@matthewelsey1782 You're most welcome Sir!
Lovely job, all ready for Sunday now :-)
Yep, ready for a day in the rain, wind and hail if it's anything like it is outside right now.. can't naffin wait.!
Hi Del if you do not use all the new clutch fluid will it keep on the shelf for a time mate
Hi Dean, Yes it will mate, it can only absorb moisture when the lid is off, so just keep the lid on tight when on the shelf and it'll be fine..
Great video and advice Del! Appreciated as always.
Glad you enjoyed it mate!
That's amazing...I've always heard that the first step of any maintenance to a Goldwing, is to remove the seat...and you were able to do all of this without!!! 😅👌🏼
That's about right buddy, but there are a few jobs you can get away with it..lol!
Good job, thanks for sharing!
G’day Del. The goldwing is needing more work and no one wants to take on the work. I want to do it myself but not confident in mechanical things. I could really use some advice….
Ok Steve.. great to hear you're gonna tackle it.. how can i help mate ?
@@Moonfleet41 it’s a question of confidence really. It’s my dads bike he left me when he died. A tidy and clean unit but with some mechanical issues needing attention. Any advice before I pick up the tools? I have a stuck calliper piston on the front and busted fork seals. A new reverse lever switch needs installing and a rear brake master cylinder rebuild kit. Your videos are amazing, but picking up the tools is another beast altogether.
@@stevevesotsky6849 Hi mate, ok, a simple list of jobs to do, what was your actual question?
@@Moonfleet41 I have a locked caliper piston which is keeping the right front brake applied, and want to remove my forks at the same time for the seals to be replaced. Is it better to replace the whole caliper or just get a new seal set and clean out the existing locked caliper piston? Would I need to bleed out the brake line first? Thanks heaps for the advice too, mate.
I must have watched three or four bleed videos of yours by now Del, and they always make me remember to do mine! Spot on mate as always!
Thanks buddy, keep pit maintained..
You make learning a pleasure Del. Simple, straightforward and to the point. What's the point of the float I'm curious. 🇸🇪🇬🇧👋🏻😊
Thanks Paul 👍 Glad you enjoyed it, simple periodic task that keeps everything working smoothly..
@@Moonfleet41 Just looked up the reason for the float. Apparently it's to stop moisture being absorbed into the fluid....but I bet you knew that lol. Thanks again Del. 👋🏻😊
Ive only ever seen it once before in all my time, i guess that makes sense though !
Nice work del, I changed clutch fluid on a vtx1800 last week and noticed it had a float also but didn't put it back in as I couldn't see the point of it. what is the purpose of it?. Thanks
Hi mate, like you I've only ever seen the float a couple of times, both times on Hondas... it seems it was an attempt to prevent moisture from reaching the brake fluid, which I don't quite understand how it would work because there's no seal there, the moisture can just weep down the side of the float, as it just bobs around on top of the fluid, there's no mechanical reason it's in place, so there's no harm in removing it and as you could see by my fluid, there was plenty of water in it, so evidently it doesn't work that well anyway!... but I popped mine back in because Honda put it there so why not!
Excellent presentation as well as production and editing mate! Personally, I especially like seeing you demonstrate these simple tasks, with the little tips and techniques you share. The advanced skills like metal fabrication, lathing, etc are interesting, and maybe preferred by many viewers, but I like the simpler tasks. Hi to Penny!
Thank you so much Byron, we're glad you enjoyed it, we are mindful of these comments as it indicates literally what our viewers want to see. It is difficult to bring small maintenance tasks on a constant basis without customers rolling through like a commercial shop, sadly we only have the bikes we own available to us to work on, so when their relevant maintenance tasks come up, we are sure to bring them to the screen! With the projects, they do involve some fabrication, but there are always repairs and upgrades included in those too, the current Husqvarna project will still involve some of this, even though it's a make-over, it'll get some wheel bearings, chain and sprockets, brake pads and an engine service... so, hopefully, we can tie that variety together... Thank you again for your kind, generous and loyal support Byron, we hope you're all keeping safe and well over there, D&Px
Always the best my friend!!!
Thank you most kindly!
Wat type of fluid is best
You will find the type of fluid required written on the top of the brake fluid reservoir cap ! use what it says on there sir.
'Bleeding' ., eck . , 😉 .
Great job buddy
Thanks 👍
Another great video Dell, I just give thumbs up before I watch now, always brilliant education and enjoyable video. Never disappointed from your content. Watched your older upside down forks seal replacement video a few times now, feel ready to tackle the forks on my yzf750 now, using your vid as a constant guide. Thanks Dell for these vids, great to see you well after your recent health scare. Nice one. 👍👍👍 Vinny.
Hey Vinny, thanks for your kind words mate, and your support in watching the videos... if I could perhaps respectfully recommended to get yourself a manual for your YZF as it would be really handy for torque settings and any little specific procedures that your Yamaha needs... that's presuming you don't already have one, which you probably do! Best of luck with it, hope it goes well for you!
@@Moonfleet41 yer, have a handbook Dell, Haines and workshop. Neither as clear as your videos, 😊 both seam to recommend taking stuff off for no reason, same goes for most car manuals too, so not just a bike thing. Was gonna buy at 89 pounds the compression tool for seperating upside down forks until I watched your video. 👌👌👌Much more straight forward way of doing things. Have done various right way up forks including my ZZR1100 forks, had the stanchions hard rechromed while in bits, much better than standard finish. A tip for testing the anti dive mechanism on gpz900r forks and such like is to sit on bike, press rear brake peddle and bounce the front end up and down, feel and see how much front forks compress, now grab the front brake fully on, bounce front forks again, should be far less compression now, good indicator of the anti dive condition. 👍 I tested all the rear linkage on my gpz900r and ZZR1100 by when on full stand lean over seat, grab the rear wheel and lift up and down, any play other than solid slight movement of suspension shows one of the many suspension components is slightly worn. Love your vids and your wisdom Del, have said before how I replaced clutch on yzf750 after you replaced I think a kawasaki clutch. 👍👍👍👍😉
Thank you sir
Good job
Excellent video, Great information. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice
You did not clean the flange of the clutch reservoir.
And no one likes a dirty flange...
Great tips video, Del. As always, top notch planning, scripting, filmography and editing are in evidence. Go team DBG... stay safe and be well.
Thank you kindly for your generous words John, it's very much appreciated.
If you haven’t been a lecturer you should have been colleges are cry out for people like you.
Again, thank you so much Mick, I have been told that a few times, im towards the end of my working life now, so that's a direction that wouldn't happen, but certainly one i would have followed if the opportunities have come up years ago. !
great video brother, very informative! is that your goldwing ? keep up the good work brother , stay safe guys cheers from new york 🥂🥂🥂🤟🤟
Hey Brother, good to hear from you, yes the old girl is mine, we bought it a year ago in the pandemic as a personal project, it was a total bargain, been left forgotten in the back of a bike shop for 10 years, panels and parts had been robbed, but we put it back together, new tyres, cam belts, replaced the old rotted out exhaust, fork seals, steering head bearings, and a full service... it's a low mile bike, just 63k so just nicely run in for a Goldwing, but as we had to replace some panels, the bike ended up three colours, plus lots of scuffs here and there, so flatt black was the best way.. It's the perfect touring bike for both of us to do lots of miles in any weather.. she'll never be for sale, who would want a raggedy old hound like this... but we love it.! Keep safe and smiling both brother.. D&Pxx
(P) That certainly did need a change and yeah, never seen a float in one before 👍🏻 say hi to PP.
Cheers mate, good old Honda always going a little further... see you Sunday mate! PP says Hi and hugs to you all!
Some clutches don’t use brake fluid but instead use hydraulic mineral oil so virtually never need to be changed.