Hi! Don't be fooled, a public hospital in Argentina may not be as aesthetically beautiful to look at, and you probably would have had to wait a little longer, but the attention and professionalism would have been exactly the same. Welcome to Argentina!
it would have been more than a little, also, as a foreigner in the country, good thing they decided to go to a private hospital and pay for a service, instead of taking avandtage of the public system, not for the money alone, but taking time away from local pacients that cant afford private attention.
@@andressousa9006 Ocurre que hay una gran diferencia de "criterios" la Salud en USA o el Helathcare, que es un sistema estrictamente Comercial (US National Library of Medicine) así, por ejemplo el costo promedio para dar a luz es de aprox. 18.000 dolares, esta claro que estoy hablando de " dar a luz" no? hago hincapié porque "dar a luz" es uno de los procesos naturales mas comunes de la Vida. En cambio acá la Salud es un Derecho consagrado en la Constitución Nacional. Yo creo que hay derechos mínimos de los cuales está bien que Estado se haga cargo y es una cuestión mínima de Solidaridad, aún cuando quien lo utilice tenga los medios para recurrir al Sistema Privado. Pero no me interesa debatir, solo creo que esto aporta a entender porque te resulta "chocante" o "sorprendente" los costos.
@@andressousa9006 you didn't "take advantage", we pay for everyone who wants to use it because is in our Constitutional motto...well, some people understand this and some don't. 50% + percent of it to be more precise...
The best specialists are actually in public hospitals. In private hospitals, you don’t necessarily get better care, but you get more comfort: less waiting time, a room to yourself, and nicer amenities, etc. However, the medical care itself is the same. As a matter of fact, many times you’re directed to public hospitals for high-complexity treatments, especially for children, or surgeries. My father was redirected from our private hospital to a public one to get the best neurosurgeon for his case.
Hay mu has quejas de muchas partes del país en que la atención pública es tardar y varias veces de poca calidad, si es un resfriado o cosas simples okey pero cosas más serias mejor uno privado.
@@holms2849justamente porque los públicos son gratuitos y atienden a todos (sean de Argentina o extranjeros de manera gratuita!). Se termina colapsando, desabasteciendo y eso deteriora la calidad y el tiempo en el que se puede atender a los pacientes. Mismo en las unidades sanitarias, los turnos se acaban rápido (la mayoría son para personas de otros países).
We have some important things that actually work. People who never were abroad think Argentina is the worst in every aspect, but that is not true, and it's a good thing people like you remind us about those things. Thanks!
Miguel, as an Argentinian that has lived more thant 20 years abroad, and in more than one place, I can tell you that our country, even with all the problems it has, is one of the best places to live in the World... Saludos!
Hello, it is nice to know that you have chosen my country to live. As for hospitals in Buenos Aires, the Garrahan Pediatric Hospital is first class and public. In case of an extreme emergency it has to be your first option, I hope this comment helps you.
El Garrahan es un hospital de alta complejidad, atienden casos de enfermedades muy graves y extremas y tambien enfermedades altamente contagiosas , el hospital Gutierrez y casa cuna ( pedro erizalde) son también hospitales de niños.
@Economic_Front hi!, an usual mistake from the use of G Translator ...better use something like "te agradezco"[singular] or " te lo agradecemos"[plural] rather than "Te apreciamos" We appreciate this! > ¡Apreciamos esto! it's wrong or not good for spanish speakers. Welcome to Argentina, btw Argentina is not only Buenos Aires city, if you can try to travel, explore and know the interior of the country
Your feedback is good, I am happy that you enjoy Argentina but what for you was cheap for an average Argentine is not. The minimum wage in Argentina is around 250 dollars (and that changes all the time because we have a lot of inflation). So your visit to the hospital is equivalent to 12% of the minimum wage. The prices are low because they adjust to the purchasing power of an Argentine and also because they are subsidized by the state and the medical insurance of Argentines. You are not to blame for this situation but in my opinion tourists should have a mandatory medical insurance (as requested by most European countries, in the United Kingdom and the US) that covers their expenses in case they have an accident with costs that are without state subsidy or other money that comes from citizens. This would be fairer and would prevent people from coming to the country to get free treatments and would alleviate the tax burden for those of us who have to live here.
A ver...si vos dependes de un salario mínimo es porque nunca quisiste a ser algo mas...sos de la generación que siempre viviste de la esclavitud del Estado...o sea...los que viven del salario mínimo es porque nunca trabajaron en relación de dependencia ni trataron de mejorar su situación...creo que si medianamente lista sabrás a qué me refiero...sl2.
Argentinian here, I live in New Zealand, but every time I visit my family in Arg. all of us, husband, my 2 sons and myself we visit a dentist there because it’s a lot cheaper, and much better service and quality, my sons needed new teeth retainers, in Arg, was us$20 including the visit, and NZ us$100 only the retainer, the visit it’s around us$80. My dad had eye surgery for cataracts for both eyes for the same price that my father in law in NZ did only for one eye, without multi focal lenses, my dad doesn’t need reading or progressive glasses anymore. Medical tech in arg, it’s not behind, you get better care. I don’t know how they do things in USA, but before a surgery in arg, you have to do blood test, check your heart, etc. so there are not surprises during surgery, but it shocks me here that you go to surgery without tests, you just fill some papers and they ask if you have any medical conditions, if you don’t know, I guess it’s a risk. By the way, my husband and kids are moving to arg. next year. We can have better life there than NZ. it’s to expensive to leave here, and we get better health care too, my husband loves Argentina, we all do. Good luck to you and enjoy your stay. There are so many beautiful places to visit. Patagonia, Iguazú falls, and much, much more.
“Hablando a tu corazón” from Charly García sounding in the background while you walk down the street in Buenos Aires, nothing more Argentinian than this moment right here 😂
Uno de los mejores hospitales privados del país , es el Hospital universitario Austral.En el suburbio de Pilar.Atencion y médicos excelentes.Un hermano.mio fue operado allí. Para cardiología sin duda el Sanatorio Favaloro.
I am a doctor in Argentina and as such I can say something about the video, and that is that with some exceptions, the fees of doctors (even specialists) are just below the average income of the general population. For example, last week a surgeon colleague told me that for a pancreatectomy the module (amount that his patient's health insurance pays for the procedure) was around 500,000 pesos (about 350 dollars). This amount had to be distributed between the surgeon himself, the anesthetist, the instrumenters, the material, etc. In the end, the surgeon had an income of 80,000 pesos (a little more than 50 dollars) for his fees. This for a pancreatectomy... in the USA for $50 a surgeon doesn't even touch the patient's abdomen
I really appreciate your experienced response and information. This is a complex topic and I only know what goes on from the customer side. Also, In the USA we are scammed and taken advantage of by predatory insurance companies and centralized hospital networks.
Basically doctors and specialists are so underpaid as the rest of the people (of this country) who cannot access to private attention, as said for example, if you have kids, waiting with them for 8 hours (or more) to have attention in public hospital is not something pleasant also as an adult that need to go work is more complicated. So ok, the tourist find "cheap" to have attention here but this is completely unfair for those who studied for years and maybe had masters and such and work for more than 8 hours/ day and still cannot afford having dinner out with their family, or have nice vacations because they're so underpaid. Now the question is, are the doctors well paid on the US? because if they pay 1000usd for attention and they give their best and they are also well paid I see some justice there.
I can add some numbers: Two years ago my wife had an emergency c-section to give birth to my twin daughters. We paid 1.5k USD for the operation only because we wanted our obstetrician to handle it and he was out-of-network. My girls spent two and a half months at a NICU that many doctors have told us is among the best in the area. We paid 0. Insurance also covered baby formula (including premature baby formula that's pricier) for the girls first six months, which would've cost us about 50 USD a month. I was paying about 70USD/month for the whole family. That is for two babies and two adults well over 30. Of course salaries of Argentinians are much lower but even adjusting for that it's still more affordable. The price of healthcare in the US is absolutely crazy, even compared to other first world countries. You can also go to a public hospital and it will be absolutely free, even if you are a foreigner. If you have insurance please let them know so they can charge the insurance company. Public hospitals will tend to be much more crowded and the rooms will not look like a five star hotel, but the medical attention is good.
El hospital público no es gratuito lo pagamos con nuestros impuestos, con el esfuerzo que hacemos todos, con nuestros ingresos devaluados. Si el que viene a Argentina no paga un seguro medico y necesita atención médica va al Hospital Público y recibe atencion médica de excelencia a costo cero para ese paciente pero con una sobrecarga para el sistema de salud argentino, y el costo lo paga el ciudadano. Dsspues tenemos médicos explotados, con mil horas de guardia y mal pagos. No parece muy justo.
@@user-rb7bv1lt5midea de libertario la salud pública es derrame al pueblo y no como otros paises el reviente aseguradoras de salud que te estafan como a el le paso en su país!! Nada es gratis pero debe ser accesible para TODOS no para su presidente y la jungla de aplasta pobres
@@user-rb7bv1lt5m pero aca el muchacho vino a vivir, paga alquiler, compra en el super, paga los servicios, y todo eso tiene sus impuestos, asi q tranquilamente puede usar cualquier servicio publico. aparte al no contratar prepaga/obra social, todo lo q le cobre el hospital el chabon lo esta poniendo al contado ahi mismo en el momento. no veo motivo de queja
Éxitos. Te deseo la mayor de las suertes. Que la gente buena y trabajadora como vos venga acá y triunfe, será una de las bases para que el futuro de Argentina sea prospero y bello. Bienvenido a Argentina. Éxitos y bendiciones a tu familia.
Here 300 dollars is a lot. That's why unless you have an "obra social" or "prepaga" in Argentina, nobody uses private hospitals. In ANY hospital, private or otherwise, they should treat you like a patient, NOT a costumer.
Thanks for the information. And I agree, I misspoke. I was trying to explain how they treat you like an inconvenience in the USA. And that the Argentina experience was so much better!
@@Economic_Front I prefer to be treated like a costumer haha also, if you need drugs from the pharmacy many times you can get them without prescription you just have to try going to different pharmacies
@@basiliusnaaninga7512 Igual si pasara un accidente el SAME lo llevaría a un hospital público... la otra opcion era haberse atendido y donar a la cooperadora los 30 dólares y ayudar al hospital. He visto extranjeros en el Hospital Argerich dejar U$S 100 claro para ellos por lo que cuenta este señor es el 10% de lo que le cuesta una consulta en su país y para la cooperadora cien dólares es un montón. Saludos
As an Argentinian I don't like Hospitals being free for foreigners. We're a poor country and we can't really afford to treat foreigners for free. As long as you pay for it be my guest. Welcome brother!
@@user-sz2mw3bp7o stop with this nonsense, foreigners that use the healthcare system DO NOT compensate via the couple hundred dollars MAX they would be "spending" in taxes. If you have to travel thousands of kilometers just to exploit the good will of a country that has "free" (no such thing) healthcare then you deserved to be charged.
@@user-sz2mw3bp7o no he is not, stop spreading this blatant lie. It's more than likely that 0 of the foreigners dollars you claim is being used to pay for the service actually end up in the hands of the health professionals.
Muy cierto,todos hacen su carrera y ganan experiencia en hospitales públicos,y eso lo sabemos todos.La mayoría trabaja x la mañana en hosp.públicos,unos luego atienden sus consultorios y otros van a clínicas privadas.PERO TODOS PASAN POR LOS HOSP. PUBLICOS!
How good that you value and respect my Beloved Country! Success and may God bless you in everything you want to do in our country. Fraternal hugs from Tucumán. (New subscriber)
Welcome to Argentina My friend! Beautiful to see how foreigners value my country 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷 New follower here. I saw you in "Astro recargado" RUclips profile
Lots of comments about the public hospitals in Argentina here, but I haven’t seen anyone mentioning that one problem the last few years is that LOT of people from other south American countries (literally MILLIONS) are freeriding and that is putting a strain on the system, especial people from Bolivia, Paraguay and Peru. One example is AIDS patients that only come to Argentina for "free" (taxpayer funded) service that they world never get in their home country. That is one reason many chose private hospitals, the service may be the same, actual often better in public hospitals, but it can be overcrowded by foreigners. (I had several operations here and can attest to getting faster and better treatment than I would have in my native socialist utopia in Scandinavia).
Es cierto lo que dices. Algunos hospitales públicos, sobre todo en provincias fronterizas, están empezando a cobrar atenciones a los extranjeros. Hay mucho abuso.
Come on guys... the problem is not (and never was) the immigrants. Being for a poor or a rich country. The problem is the low budget, the parasitic companies (like SwissMedical, owners of AméricaTV). If the patient (patient, not customer) is like the host says as a "cow milk", welcome... at the moment it begins to be deficit... to the public health system. They even have a term "tornillo" (screw) because it is worse than a "clavo". Almost all major entrepreneurs in Argentina support whoever promises to reduce public spending. In lawful and ethical ways... or in lawful ways... or they support. They are fundamentalists, fanatics of that. But make no mistake, they are reasonable and intelligent people. The subsidies they receive, the multiple aids they get... that, on the contrary, should be increased. And of course, the infrastructure they need is paid for by the state and must be ideal. Many, the majority of the big ones, perceive themselves as libertarians, but they live off the state’s teat. ("viven the la teta (teat, breast) de Fulano" is the argentinean way of saying "John Doe is the cow milk of them... I love how similar and different the expression are!) My mother (82 years old) had a surgery... not covered by the "insurance" (la prepaga, SwissMedical)... she pays 600 dollars a month (it a lot of money here, specially for a retiree). She had to undergo surgery covered by the social health insurance. Surgery, hospitalization, pathological tests, food, and the kindness of a lovely nurse... zero pesos. A social health insurance is a society where workers of a specific industry, such as transportation, metallurgy, etc. (not necessarily, but that’s how it started), pay a monthly fee for medical coverage in institutions that have an agreement with it (or that are directly owned by the social health insurance). The difference (positive according to my way of thinking, though it might not be according to yours) is that if you are in a higher position and earn more, you pay more. If you are not and earn less, you pay less. They are not necessarily limited to that. They also often have hotels (open to everyone, very affordable for members... But really ridiculously affordable. I will always remember the magnificent croissants at the Campsic hotel in Cosquín. But speaking of immigrants. First: They are people, if they are ill, they need treatment. I do not care if they have money, come from a poor country or from Sweden. White skin, brown skin, purple with green dots skin... I don't care. Second: France. Third: They are already paying taxes. You can argue that some came from countries.... ok. Donations are always accepted, but to create a bureaucratic structure for this... could be more loosing than winning. And fills with mud, something that should be (it is not) spotlessly clean. My way of thinking is veeeeery different from yours. I see the world in an entirely different way. But you are not only welcome, I am happy you are here. The Constitution of Argentine begins with a paragraph known as "the Preamble," which outlines the context, foundations, and objectives of the supreme law. Its current text is as follows: "We, the representatives of the people of the Argentine Nation, assembled in General Constituent Congress by the will and election of the provinces that comprise it, in fulfillment of pre-existing pacts, with the purpose of constituting national unity, ensuring justice, consolidating internal peace, providing for common defense, promoting general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty for ourselves, our posterity, and all men in the world who wish to inhabit Argentine soil: invoking the protection of God, source of all reason and justice: do ordain, decree, and establish this Constitution for the Argentine Nation." The constitution was inspired by Alberdi. A man that Milei worships (anyway, I respect Alberdi a lot). I am sure you notice how similar to the beginning of the US constitution, but ours makes explicit one point... "and all men in the world who wish to inhabit Argentine soil".
Freedom in Argentina has been around since 1984. Some people think that it is something recent. NOT TRUE!! DON'T LET THEM KID YOU!! Restrictions n freedom and repression are back!!
Freedom in Argentina has been around since 1984. Some people think that it is something recent. NOT TRUE!! DON'T LET THEM KID YOU!! Restrictions n freedom and repression are back!!
I'm an Argentine American Cabify (like Uber) driver in Buenos Aires, I know there is something called Medical Tourism where Americans and European people travel to Buenos Aires to get procedures done (hair transplant, teeth, miscellaneous other surgeries) and travel around Argentina a little enjoying the savings.. =)
Thanks for sharing that information! I didn’t realize this. But I have been seeing a lot of people with bandages from procedures. Maybe this is what I’ve been seeing.
@@Economic_Frontit’s really not that common. It’s usually Argentinians living abroad that will come back, travel a bit, visit their families and have some procedure done (usually odontology, or cosmetic surgery)
@@Economic_Front the full combo includes bringing some tech gadgets from your country of origin to sell here at great profit (they're stupid expensive here) to cover part of the fare, stay and whatnot
00:47 Oooohhhh Dame tu amor a mí! Le estoy hablando hablando hablando a tuu coorazón! Despite this channel was thought to help the new comer and those who want to come, you're goint to have a lot of argentines suscribers when they notice you. We love the people who love our country and is always interesting and fun to know how they see us and their experiences here. I hope you can help many of future expats/new argentinian citizens (and not just watched by argentines haha, although everybody can see by the comments that we receive you gladly and warmly, perhaps that could be a topic for a future video). My best wishes for you and your family.
Regarding health, I`m not sure in Argentina, but in Uruguay (next door country) apart from health insurance companies, you have also "mutualistas" and they are hospitals with a membership monthly fee (like if it was a club or a gym). This is a good system because they get to know their clients, and they keep track of them. It is also in their interest to do preventive care, since they will spend less money. They will do cancer check ups, for example, so they can find it at early stages and remove it by surgery instead of expending a tons of money in a patient doing quimio during years. With the insurance system, hospitals just make more money the more sick you are.
New subscriber, want to follow your experience living in Argentina. I'm from the US, being to Argentina a couple of times and I love the country, the people, the food, and the culture.
I’m so glad you’ve experienced it! It’s so insanely friendly here in comparison. Very happy to have you subscribing. If you ever have questions please message or ask me on X. I’d love to help more immigration.
I am very glad that you made this video, it is very informative. I have seen comments on videos from other American professionals that degrade the professionalism of other countries just because they are not from a "first world"... making excuses like "they don't speak the same language, it could be a scam or there is no follow-up afterwards" which seems very hypocritical to me, since scams happen in any country, it is racism and enormous selfishness. Doctors from countries like Argentina study for many years, have a lot of experience and are even more professional than a doctor who only seeks his own benefit, charging a lot for something as simple as an x-ray in USA. Thank you so much for this and greetins from Argentina 💕
You should have tried a Public Hospital... I worked as an MD at a Public Hospital over 40 years and gosh I am PROUD!!! Health care is al least as good as in a private clinic OR STILL FAR BETTER!!! And you wouldnt have paid anything at all, not even a nickel!!!
We are paying our public health through our taxes, that still are one of the highest in the worlds. The Argentine State, the State in general does not give anything for free, all is given by us, the citizens of good will (not the leftists) through our taxes.
A friend from Barcelona had an emergency because he's a diabetic. The treatment and cost of the room for one week was free. He was treated at the Zubizarreta Hospital in Buenos Aires last August
Mi hermano vive en Florida. Cada vez que viene a la Argentina, visita al dentista y a los médicos especialistas para hacerse estudios. Sus cirugías han sido aquí también. Creo que en EEUU además sde sobre medicar a sus pacientes, les convierten en "enfermos" consumidores de drogas, tratamientos, terapias, etc. De por vida... todo un gran negocio de los Hospitales, aseguradoras y empresas farmacéuticas...
Medical care here really is something else! It’s unfair how underpaid the profession is (on average) though. New subscriber, welcome to Argentina and have a nice stay! 🫶🏼🇦🇷
En un hospital público, la calidad de la atención hubiera sido exactamente igual. Quizas el edificio no sea moderno, pero los médicos en Argentina son muy profesionales y la atención es muy buena.
Tengo amigos argentinos en California que suelen venir a visitar a sus familiares y hacen un tour medico que les sale super barato. Por ej se operan una rodilla y se hospedan como en un hotel...o se arreglan los dientes, todo por el 10% que en EEUU
Public health system is horrible. We have to go before 6 a.m to see if we have luck to get an appointment with a doctor, and if you didn't get one, you have to wait till next month and repeat the process. It's impossible, they're full of immigrants who treat you bad for being argentinian. It's just all horrible. I hope things change.
El hospital público habria estado probablemente menos prolijo, estéticamente menos bello y hubiera esperado un poco mas, pero habrías obtenido exactamente la misma atención y gratuitamente.
@@basiliusnaaninga7512 Si el turista tiene seguro médico, yo creo que el hospital publico les cobra la atención, como hace cuando tenés obra social. Y bueno si no tiene nada que se lleve una buena imagen ese gasto es una inversión para que hable bien del país. Como al pobre estadounidense que perdió la pierna en un robo y acá le salvaron la vida. Dijo que igual volvería porque se sintió cuidado no todo es $$$$ en la vida. Es importante pero no lo es todo. Nunca fuimos una sociedad interesada y ojala no nos transformemos en eso es horrible
ok, I'm hooked on your channel!!! I’m Argentinian living in the USA and love your views on different aspects. They are different and well treated. Nice to hear more from your adventures.
@@pablorey9203 Los médicos del hospital que hagan lo que quieran con el dinero que ganan libremente. Ellos cobran un sueldo que viene de nuestros impuestos. En fin, el hospital público sirve para que nosotros le paguemos a los kirchos y a los zurdos por la medicina con nuestro esfuerzo capitalista.
No no no, a private hospital is the same as a public hospital. In fact, all the best averages for the entrance exam for residencies are in public hospitals, all the best medical professionals worked in a public hospital.
El servicio médico y educativo en la Argentina es “world class”!! Ni un país del “1er mundo” como USA pueda llegarle al talón .. pero bueno, ese costo lo pagamos entre todos, y el beneficio lo gozan hasta los extranjeros 🤷🏽♀️
Greetings from Peru. Saw your video announcing moving to Argentina on El Clarín a news channel on IG. Great choice you guys made. Argentina is showing the world how things actually have to be made. How the job has to be done. Wish you guys the best. New follower here🙋🏻♂️
Hello, welcome to Argentina. I hope you enjoy your life here. I don't know what medical care is like in the United States. There are many people commenting on health in our country regarding public hospitals versus private hospitals. Not everyone has the means to receive care in a private hospital. Public hospitals have two opposite poles, one is the infrastructure and the other is the staff. The medical staff of a public hospital is much better by far than that of a private hospital. but they lack supplies and building maintenance. And since it is free, there are always many people attending, which results in more waiting to be attended to.
welcome to Argentina bro! i will follow your channel now and watch your videos as i can, i am from Argentina too, i live in Bahia Blanca which is part of Buenos Aires! it makes me happy you are having a nice experience! apologies for any mispelling as well, i taught english myself haha
If you're going to live here, you are going to benefit more to have a "prepaga" which is an insurance you just pay monthly like cable, they dont add aditional fees if you visit an hospital like in the us. And that includes everything you need to give birth and your future child care. You just pay a monthly fee x family member according to your plan. It only gets adjusted to inflation
It's great to hear that you had a positive experience with the healthcare system here in Argentina. The first-rate care you received in the private hospital can be attributed to the high-quality free education provided by institutions like the University of Buenos Aires (UBA). The UBA educates many of our doctors and healthcare professionals, for "free" through state-funded programs, ensuring that everyone has access to top-tier medical training. Additionally, the reduced cost of your medical attention is a result of the socialist policies implemented over the past 100 years. These policies have aimed to regulate and subsidize healthcare, making it more affordable and accessible to everyone, regardless of their economic status. This is a testament to the values of solidarity and social welfare that have been at the core of our society. However, if the inhumane policies of the conservative (not libertarian!) Milei succeed, public health services will become much more expensive, and our country will start to follow the path of the USA. This could lead to a system where only those with significant financial resources can afford quality healthcare, undermining the inclusive and equitable principles we've built over the years. Welcome to Argentina, and I hope you continue to enjoy and appreciate the unique blend of our social and cultural heritage!
@@Economic_Front You are welcome. It's great to hear that you had a positive experience with the healthcare system here in Argentina. What you and your family are enjoying now in Argentina was built through a state-regulated capitalism, which has fostered a morally sound country. This healthy blend of 19th-century liberal traditions and a strong work culture institutionalized by Peronism incorporates the anarchist and socialist leftist traditions from Europe. It's this unique combination that has shaped our nation's moral and social fabric.
What do you mean "treat us like a customer"?? Doctors and nurses treat us as a human being not matter what. If you go to a public hospital will not make any difference,.
I was comparing to the USA experience. In the USA you’re treated like cattle. You’re also treated like an inconvenience. I’m happy to hear that! Argentine culture is incredible.
$30 lol. That’s amazing. We’re getting robbed left and right here in the US. No reason we should be paying hundreds or thousands of dollars a month in insurance to get treated like crap by the healthcare here. It’s horrible.
I'd like to say our Health Care System is not perfect at all. Indeed it has many flaws and not everyone is happy, including patients and health staff for several good reasons. However, I think we are still very lucky and I can get you because I know the problem you have in US with this matter. You must pay a fortune if in need of medical care and treatment and many Americans just can't. I watched Michael Moore's film, Sicko some years ago. I remember what happened with Obama Care. It's not a model to imitate. Anyway... Don't expect most people here to understand it because the grass is always greener in the US. They'll assume that absolutely everything must be better since it's part of the first world while at the same time they'll tell you without a blink that Argentina is the best country in the world and they may truly think so! These are some of the peculiar mysteries of the Argie nature. Welcome to our dearest Argentine land. You'll never get bored.😁
Public hospitals are as good or better at some thing than private ones. My brother was redirected to the children's public hospital after 2 failed surgeries to fix his kidney malformation as a child. The top pediatric nephrologist in the country took his case and fixed the problem in one go.
Buenos Aires city hospitals are great bro, so glad that people like you choose my country to live. Wish you the best, and I would love to be your friend
Back in 2018 I went to the US with my family for an exchange program. We had to take our kid to a hospital in Missouri for the same reason as you guys, they charged us 250 dollars for an x-ray!. In 2020 our daughter was born here in Argentina, in a public hospital. We didn't pay a single cent.
Welcome to Argentina! Te deseo éxitos a vos y tu familia, y mucha suerte en la decisión y camino a recorrer que tendrán. And in case you're still learning Spanish, I wish sucess to you and your family, and the best of fortunes. See you soon.
4:40 i know you're talking about private hospitals prices but birth and g section is completely free in public hospitals here, other stuff like for example abortion is free too(since 2020 a law passed), contraceptive treatments like vasectomy or tubal ligation are free also in public hospitals.
It can be said that Argentina is slowly recovering what made it great before, what it once represented in the world. I hope that your life here is the best possible and that your family can be happy in this beautiful country!
Just heard of your channel on Twitter. Watched the video of you telling you're moving here. Let me welcome you to my beautiful country, hope you find a home in it. Saludos y buena vida! :)
Welcome to Argentina. Whenever you have a chance, I would suggest to visit some of the provinces. I was born near the Iguazú falls, which is an incredible popular place to visit, but it gos way beyond that. Argentina's interior is beautiful.
Please note that Argentinians salary is not comparable to USA at all, therefore that price for the citizens there is high. iT IS TRUE THAT THERE ARE FREE HOSPITAL WHERE YOU MAY PAY BANDAGE AND MEDICINE ONLY. YES, SO FAR DOCTORS ARE EXCELLENT AND i SAY SO FAR, BECAUSE IT IS VERY NOTICEABLE THAT DOCTORS THAT WENT TO STUDY MEDICINE THERE ARE NOT APPLYING THE SAME CRITERY AS THE LOCALS. iT IS KIND OF "TITLE MATTER", THEREFOR THEIR MEDICAL SERVICE IS NOT AS GOOD AS THE NATIONALS. Bue in general there are many doctors that even visit their patients at home, not expecting a sick person travel to their clinic.
Hola, la gente se muestra tan agradecida con tu actitud, porque lamentablemente la mayoría de los extranjeros que vienen de paises vecinos vienen a vivir de nosotros, usurpan terrenos, colapsan nuestros servicios, viven sin trabajar con planes que pagamos los argentinos que trabajamos y critican el pais. Lo mejor es tener obra social y atenderte en clinicas privadas. Antes iba por necesidad a hospitales públicos, y aunque te atienden bien, siempre esta saturado de extranjeros a los que les dan prioridad, y yo como argentina teniendo que esperar mucho para todo. Incluso siempre faltan materiales y no alcanzan, porque se gasta todo en esa gente. No debería ser gratuito para extranjeros, vivan o no en el pais, es muy injusto para el nativo
A los que dicen que la guardia de un hospital público es buena, les pregunto si alguna vez se hicieron atender o fueron a la guardia del hospital Argerich o Santojanni por ejemplo
Yo fui a la guardia del hospital de clinicas San Martin y fui atendido a nivel de excelencia, vivo en el Reino Unido y la atención acá deja mucho que desear
@@ggl2947 Tuviste suerte, yo la llevé a mi mamá de 80 años con bronquitis y no la querian atender, yo creí que se moria de la tos, empecé a gritar como un loco que hasta vino la policia y recién ahí se dignaron a atenderla. Eso fue hace años, ya en el 2022 mi mamá tuvo un ACV y la trataron mal y allí falleció. Una golondrina no hace verano, yo me atendí en los hospitales públicos toda mi vida y la atención es horrible, lleno de gente, la mayoria extranjeros y te tratan muy mal y de muy mala gana
Hello, welcome to Argentina. I'm from Venezuela, have been here for 5 years. Hope you keep posting videos. And also if you need to ask any question don't hesitate... Regards
Hi, i got recommend your video yesterday and i didn't watch it, now RUclips recommend me it again, i had to see it haha, im glad you like Argentina, im argentinian and I've been living my whole life here, never been overseas to another country, so i dont know much how healthcare and other things really work besides what i watch on internet or heard, i didn't know that in USA doctors treat you as costumer instead that as a person, that's bad and i can imagine that's a bad feeling to have when actually you need to go to a hospital to feel better, not to get your bank account empty of money, i always like when foreigners come here and say good things about my country, be careful though with your phone in the street because of robberies,in buenos aires city there is a lot of areas where robberies and crime is not that bad and the police is better compared to my city ( i live in the southern part of the "conurbano" we call it, its a huge part with many cities that surrounds buenos aires city to the south, east , west,north if you see it on a map). I hope you liked the trip, un saludo👍
Hi, I just want to settle a bit of a myth. I you were to go to any of the public hospitals around the country, which is vast, you would receive the same treatment for free!, please do not be hesitant! The same doctors and nurses who work in them are dedicated and serious professionals who take there job at heart. The buildings my be in a bit of disrepair, thanks to years of lack of maintenance. You mentioned in one of your first videos, when on duty for the last time as a cop back in the US, we have suffered years of mismanagement. Just wanted to set slate clear if in an emergency your only option is a public hospital, rest assured they are trustworthy and efficient! Again welcome to Argentina!i
If you land in a public hospital in an emergency it would count too, they ask for your private health insurance too, but the idea in general in the country is that in an emergency the treatment is not that costly as in USA. You wouldn't get short in treatment, the problem we have is the medicine and lab material that comes from overseas, that is really expensive ( but covered in part for the insurance). The idea of the new government is to extend a payment for procedures begining at 250 dls for foreigners ( done now in certain areas of the provinces limiting other countries as an experiment, because the government cut he funding on small health centers). It would be very hard to implement in national hospitals, as the free health is coded in the laws of the land. In my opinion the quality of life of everyone depends in a big part in the low rate in medical treatments, I hope it keep this way.
The health insurance companies are milking people here in Argentina, too! What a limited view you have of the situation. And yes, do come to Argentina with an insurance because if something more serious than a crushed finger happened to you, you would get taken to a public hospital where, unlike the USA, you would be treated for free in perhaps a less nice atmosphere, with less "fit" (!!!!) nurses, but still with great efficiency. The thing is, public resources here are unfortunately way too limited and they should be ideally destined for local people, not for tourists who decide not to buy travel insurance because it's "scam". PS: I'd much rather be treated as a person, not a customer, when in need of help.
Hi! Don't be fooled, a public hospital in Argentina may not be as aesthetically beautiful to look at, and you probably would have had to wait a little longer, but the attention and professionalism would have been exactly the same. Welcome to Argentina!
it would have been more than a little, also, as a foreigner in the country, good thing they decided to go to a private hospital and pay for a service, instead of taking avandtage of the public system, not for the money alone, but taking time away from local pacients that cant afford private attention.
Totally agree
@@andressousa9006 Ocurre que hay una gran diferencia de "criterios" la Salud en USA o el Helathcare, que es un sistema estrictamente Comercial (US National Library of Medicine) así, por ejemplo el costo promedio para dar a luz es de aprox. 18.000 dolares, esta claro que estoy hablando de " dar a luz" no? hago hincapié porque "dar a luz" es uno de los procesos naturales mas comunes de la Vida. En cambio acá la Salud es un Derecho consagrado en la Constitución Nacional. Yo creo que hay derechos mínimos de los cuales está bien que Estado se haga cargo y es una cuestión mínima de Solidaridad, aún cuando quien lo utilice tenga los medios para recurrir al Sistema Privado. Pero no me interesa debatir, solo creo que esto aporta a entender porque te resulta "chocante" o "sorprendente" los costos.
@@andressousa9006 you didn't "take advantage", we pay for everyone who wants to use it because is in our Constitutional motto...well, some people understand this and some don't. 50% + percent of it to be more precise...
Falso, abrazo.
The best specialists are actually in public hospitals. In private hospitals, you don’t necessarily get better care, but you get more comfort: less waiting time, a room to yourself, and nicer amenities, etc. However, the medical care itself is the same. As a matter of fact, many times you’re directed to public hospitals for high-complexity treatments, especially for children, or surgeries. My father was redirected from our private hospital to a public one to get the best neurosurgeon for his case.
Thank you for sharing!
Hay mu has quejas de muchas partes del país en que la atención pública es tardar y varias veces de poca calidad, si es un resfriado o cosas simples okey pero cosas más serias mejor uno privado.
@@holms2849 how the f would u know that if you'r not even argentinian? lol
@@holms2849justamente porque los públicos son gratuitos y atienden a todos (sean de Argentina o extranjeros de manera gratuita!). Se termina colapsando, desabasteciendo y eso deteriora la calidad y el tiempo en el que se puede atender a los pacientes.
Mismo en las unidades sanitarias, los turnos se acaban rápido (la mayoría son para personas de otros países).
Mmmm de enserio ? Eso es ya una leyenda urbana.
We have some important things that actually work. People who never were abroad think Argentina is the worst in every aspect, but that is not true, and it's a good thing people like you remind us about those things. Thanks!
Yes!! I hope I can open their eyes!
Miguel, as an Argentinian that has lived more thant 20 years abroad, and in more than one place, I can tell you that our country, even with all the problems it has, is one of the best places to live in the World... Saludos!
Hello, it is nice to know that you have chosen my country to live. As for hospitals in Buenos Aires, the Garrahan Pediatric Hospital is first class and public. In case of an extreme emergency it has to be your first option, I hope this comment helps you.
Thank you for the great information! We appreciate this!
El Garrahan es un hospital de alta complejidad, atienden casos de enfermedades muy graves y extremas y tambien enfermedades altamente contagiosas , el hospital Gutierrez y casa cuna ( pedro erizalde) son también hospitales de niños.
@@maryzacheo6498 gracias por esta muy buena informacion! Te apreciamos.
Es un hospital y centro de investigacion, hasta vienen de otros paises a atenderse.@@Economic_Front
@Economic_Front hi!, an usual mistake from the use of G Translator ...better use something like "te agradezco"[singular] or " te lo agradecemos"[plural] rather than "Te apreciamos"
We appreciate this! > ¡Apreciamos esto! it's wrong or not good for spanish speakers. Welcome to Argentina, btw Argentina is not only Buenos Aires city, if you can try to travel, explore and know the interior of the country
Your feedback is good, I am happy that you enjoy Argentina but what for you was cheap for an average Argentine is not. The minimum wage in Argentina is around 250 dollars (and that changes all the time because we have a lot of inflation). So your visit to the hospital is equivalent to 12% of the minimum wage. The prices are low because they adjust to the purchasing power of an Argentine and also because they are subsidized by the state and the medical insurance of Argentines.
You are not to blame for this situation but in my opinion tourists should have a mandatory medical insurance (as requested by most European countries, in the United Kingdom and the US) that covers their expenses in case they have an accident with costs that are without state subsidy or other money that comes from citizens. This would be fairer and would prevent people from coming to the country to get free treatments and would alleviate the tax burden for those of us who have to live here.
Thank you and thanks for sharing those details!
A ver...si vos dependes de un salario mínimo es porque nunca quisiste a ser algo mas...sos de la generación que siempre viviste de la esclavitud del Estado...o sea...los que viven del salario mínimo es porque nunca trabajaron en relación de dependencia ni trataron de mejorar su situación...creo que si medianamente lista sabrás a qué me refiero...sl2.
Argentinian here, I live in New Zealand, but every time I visit my family in Arg. all of us, husband, my 2 sons and myself we visit a dentist there because it’s a lot cheaper, and much better service and quality, my sons needed new teeth retainers, in Arg, was us$20 including the visit, and NZ us$100 only the retainer, the visit it’s around us$80. My dad had eye surgery for cataracts for both eyes for the same price that my father in law in NZ did only for one eye, without multi focal lenses, my dad doesn’t need reading or progressive glasses anymore. Medical tech in arg, it’s not behind, you get better care. I don’t know how they do things in USA, but before a surgery in arg, you have to do blood test, check your heart, etc. so there are not surprises during surgery, but it shocks me here that you go to surgery without tests, you just fill some papers and they ask if you have any medical conditions, if you don’t know, I guess it’s a risk. By the way, my husband and kids are moving to arg. next year. We can have better life there than NZ. it’s to expensive to leave here, and we get better health care too, my husband loves Argentina, we all do. Good luck to you and enjoy your stay. There are so many beautiful places to visit. Patagonia, Iguazú falls, and much, much more.
Thank you for sharing all your experiences! I appreciate that!
“Hablando a tu corazón” from Charly García sounding in the background while you walk down the street in Buenos Aires, nothing more Argentinian than this moment right here 😂
Uno de los mejores hospitales privados del país , es el Hospital universitario Austral.En el suburbio de Pilar.Atencion y médicos excelentes.Un hermano.mio fue operado allí.
Para cardiología sin duda el Sanatorio Favaloro.
*nothing more Porteño *cof cof*
Era "Tu amor" la canción, no "Hablando a tu corazón".
@@zappertxt Spot on!
@@alejomdpehhh no. Es Hablando A Tu Corazón. Googlealo.
I am a doctor in Argentina and as such I can say something about the video, and that is that with some exceptions, the fees of doctors (even specialists) are just below the average income of the general population. For example, last week a surgeon colleague told me that for a pancreatectomy the module (amount that his patient's health insurance pays for the procedure) was around 500,000 pesos (about 350 dollars). This amount had to be distributed between the surgeon himself, the anesthetist, the instrumenters, the material, etc. In the end, the surgeon had an income of 80,000 pesos (a little more than 50 dollars) for his fees. This for a pancreatectomy... in the USA for $50 a surgeon doesn't even touch the patient's abdomen
I really appreciate your experienced response and information. This is a complex topic and I only know what goes on from the customer side. Also, In the USA we are scammed and taken advantage of by predatory insurance companies and centralized hospital networks.
Ay re triste 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@Economic_Frontpero en EEUU un médico gana bien! Comparado con argentina. Hay abuso de poder también si lo ves
Basically doctors and specialists are so underpaid as the rest of the people (of this country) who cannot access to private attention, as said for example, if you have kids, waiting with them for 8 hours (or more) to have attention in public hospital is not something pleasant also as an adult that need to go work is more complicated.
So ok, the tourist find "cheap" to have attention here but this is completely unfair for those who studied for years and maybe had masters and such and work for more than 8 hours/ day and still cannot afford having dinner out with their family, or have nice vacations because they're so underpaid.
Now the question is, are the doctors well paid on the US? because if they pay 1000usd for attention and they give their best and they are also well paid I see some justice there.
Que verguenza
I can add some numbers:
Two years ago my wife had an emergency c-section to give birth to my twin daughters. We paid 1.5k USD for the operation only because we wanted our obstetrician to handle it and he was out-of-network.
My girls spent two and a half months at a NICU that many doctors have told us is among the best in the area. We paid 0.
Insurance also covered baby formula (including premature baby formula that's pricier) for the girls first six months, which would've cost us about 50 USD a month.
I was paying about 70USD/month for the whole family. That is for two babies and two adults well over 30.
Of course salaries of Argentinians are much lower but even adjusting for that it's still more affordable. The price of healthcare in the US is absolutely crazy, even compared to other first world countries.
You can also go to a public hospital and it will be absolutely free, even if you are a foreigner. If you have insurance please let them know so they can charge the insurance company.
Public hospitals will tend to be much more crowded and the rooms will not look like a five star hotel, but the medical attention is good.
Thanks for sharing this
El hospital público no es gratuito lo pagamos con nuestros impuestos, con el esfuerzo que hacemos todos, con nuestros ingresos devaluados. Si el que viene a Argentina no paga un seguro medico y necesita atención médica va al Hospital Público y recibe atencion médica de excelencia a costo cero para ese paciente pero con una sobrecarga para el sistema de salud argentino, y el costo lo paga el ciudadano. Dsspues tenemos médicos explotados, con mil horas de guardia y mal pagos. No parece muy justo.
"Ni Is GratuiTi Li pAgaMis Entri ToDis"
@@user-rb7bv1lt5midea de libertario la salud pública es derrame al pueblo y no como otros paises el reviente aseguradoras de salud que te estafan como a el le paso en su país!! Nada es gratis pero debe ser accesible para TODOS no para su presidente y la jungla de aplasta pobres
@@user-rb7bv1lt5m pero aca el muchacho vino a vivir, paga alquiler, compra en el super, paga los servicios, y todo eso tiene sus impuestos, asi q tranquilamente puede usar cualquier servicio publico. aparte al no contratar prepaga/obra social, todo lo q le cobre el hospital el chabon lo esta poniendo al contado ahi mismo en el momento. no veo motivo de queja
Éxitos. Te deseo la mayor de las suertes. Que la gente buena y trabajadora como vos venga acá y triunfe, será una de las bases para que el futuro de Argentina sea prospero y bello. Bienvenido a Argentina. Éxitos y bendiciones a tu familia.
Thank you so much!
Here 300 dollars is a lot.
That's why unless you have an "obra social" or "prepaga" in Argentina, nobody uses private hospitals.
In ANY hospital, private or otherwise, they should treat you like a patient, NOT a costumer.
Thanks for the information. And I agree, I misspoke. I was trying to explain how they treat you like an inconvenience in the USA. And that the Argentina experience was so much better!
@@Economic_Front I prefer to be treated like a costumer haha also, if you need drugs from the pharmacy many times you can get them without prescription you just have to try going to different pharmacies
En la guardia de un hospital público te hubieran tratado igual de bien .Que disfrutes tu estadía..❤🇦🇷
¡gracias por la información! También he estado viendo hospitales públicos muy recomendados.
No tendría que ir a un hospital público porque eso se deja para atender a los que realmente lo necesitan.
@@basiliusnaaninga7512 Igual si pasara un accidente el SAME lo llevaría a un hospital público... la otra opcion era haberse atendido y donar a la cooperadora los 30 dólares y ayudar al hospital. He visto extranjeros en el Hospital Argerich dejar U$S 100 claro para ellos por lo que cuenta este señor es el 10% de lo que le cuesta una consulta en su país y para la cooperadora cien dólares es un montón. Saludos
@@leocuello66en todo caso el arancel debe ser calculado en proporción al salario y el costo de salud en su país de origen.
@@Economic_Front Tal cual.
As an Argentinian I don't like Hospitals being free for foreigners. We're a poor country and we can't really afford to treat foreigners for free. As long as you pay for it be my guest. Welcome brother!
he's literally paying for the service just by paying VAT taxes (IVA)
I couldn’t agree more. That would be a very bad policy. Thank you for the warm welcome!
@@user-sz2mw3bp7o stop with this nonsense, foreigners that use the healthcare system DO NOT compensate via the couple hundred dollars MAX they would be "spending" in taxes. If you have to travel thousands of kilometers just to exploit the good will of a country that has "free" (no such thing) healthcare then you deserved to be charged.
@@user-sz2mw3bp7o no he is not, stop spreading this blatant lie. It's more than likely that 0 of the foreigners dollars you claim is being used to pay for the service actually end up in the hands of the health professionals.
Who told you that we are a poor country? Milei? Sounds so damn weird, how are we poor?
Los médicos en los hospitales públicos son excelentes
I believe this also!
Muy cierto,todos hacen su carrera y ganan experiencia en hospitales públicos,y eso lo sabemos todos.La mayoría trabaja x la mañana en hosp.públicos,unos luego atienden sus consultorios y otros van a clínicas privadas.PERO TODOS PASAN POR LOS HOSP. PUBLICOS!
How good that you value and respect my Beloved Country! Success and may God bless you in everything you want to do in our country. Fraternal hugs from Tucumán. (New subscriber)
Wow, thank you! Very grateful to be here and to have you following along!
Hello, guys! A new subscriber here. Welcome to Argentina!! 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷 Hope you feel great and happy here ❤
Thank you so much! Also thank you for following along.
Para que vengan a atenderse casi gratis en nuestro sistema y seguir chupando del estado que está en banca rota? Bienvenidos??
Welcome to Argentina My friend! Beautiful to see how foreigners value my country 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷 New follower here. I saw you in "Astro recargado" RUclips profile
So happy to have you! Thanks for finding me.
Lots of comments about the public hospitals in Argentina here, but I haven’t seen anyone mentioning that one problem the last few years is that LOT of people from other south American countries (literally MILLIONS) are freeriding and that is putting a strain on the system, especial people from Bolivia, Paraguay and Peru. One example is AIDS patients that only come to Argentina for "free" (taxpayer funded) service that they world never get in their home country. That is one reason many chose private hospitals, the service may be the same, actual often better in public hospitals, but it can be overcrowded by foreigners. (I had several operations here and can attest to getting faster and better treatment than I would have in my native socialist utopia in Scandinavia).
Thanks for sharing this!
Es cierto lo que dices. Algunos hospitales públicos, sobre todo en provincias fronterizas, están empezando a cobrar atenciones a los extranjeros. Hay mucho abuso.
@@AugustoNicolai y como resultado de eso, los hospitales que estaban colapsados ahora se ven como hospitales normales y no como terminal de autobuses.
Come on guys... the problem is not (and never was) the immigrants. Being for a poor or a rich country. The problem is the low budget, the parasitic companies (like SwissMedical, owners of AméricaTV). If the patient (patient, not customer) is like the host says as a "cow milk", welcome... at the moment it begins to be deficit... to the public health system. They even have a term "tornillo" (screw) because it is worse than a "clavo".
Almost all major entrepreneurs in Argentina support whoever promises to reduce public spending. In lawful and ethical ways... or in lawful ways... or they support. They are fundamentalists, fanatics of that. But make no mistake, they are reasonable and intelligent people. The subsidies they receive, the multiple aids they get... that, on the contrary, should be increased. And of course, the infrastructure they need is paid for by the state and must be ideal.
Many, the majority of the big ones, perceive themselves as libertarians, but they live off the state’s teat. ("viven the la teta (teat, breast) de Fulano" is the argentinean way of saying "John Doe is the cow milk of them... I love how similar and different the expression are!)
My mother (82 years old) had a surgery... not covered by the "insurance" (la prepaga, SwissMedical)... she pays 600 dollars a month (it a lot of money here, specially for a retiree). She had to undergo surgery covered by the social health insurance. Surgery, hospitalization, pathological tests, food, and the kindness of a lovely nurse... zero pesos.
A social health insurance is a society where workers of a specific industry, such as transportation, metallurgy, etc. (not necessarily, but that’s how it started), pay a monthly fee for medical coverage in institutions that have an agreement with it (or that are directly owned by the social health insurance).
The difference (positive according to my way of thinking, though it might not be according to yours) is that if you are in a higher position and earn more, you pay more. If you are not and earn less, you pay less.
They are not necessarily limited to that. They also often have hotels (open to everyone, very affordable for members... But really ridiculously affordable. I will always remember the magnificent croissants at the Campsic hotel in Cosquín.
But speaking of immigrants.
First: They are people, if they are ill, they need treatment. I do not care if they have money, come from a poor country or from Sweden. White skin, brown skin, purple with green dots skin... I don't care.
Second: France.
Third: They are already paying taxes. You can argue that some came from countries.... ok. Donations are always accepted, but to create a bureaucratic structure for this... could be more loosing than winning. And fills with mud, something that should be (it is not) spotlessly clean.
My way of thinking is veeeeery different from yours. I see the world in an entirely different way. But you are not only welcome, I am happy you are here.
The Constitution of Argentine begins with a paragraph known as "the Preamble," which outlines the context, foundations, and objectives of the supreme law. Its current text is as follows:
"We, the representatives of the people of the Argentine Nation, assembled in General Constituent Congress by the will and election of the provinces that comprise it, in fulfillment of pre-existing pacts, with the purpose of constituting national unity, ensuring justice, consolidating internal peace, providing for common defense, promoting general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty for ourselves, our posterity, and all men in the world who wish to inhabit Argentine soil: invoking the protection of God, source of all reason and justice: do ordain, decree, and establish this Constitution for the Argentine Nation."
The constitution was inspired by Alberdi. A man that Milei worships (anyway, I respect Alberdi a lot). I am sure you notice how similar to the beginning of the US constitution, but ours makes explicit one point... "and all men in the world who wish to inhabit Argentine soil".
nobody mentions that because that idea has no specific data support, its just an idea
Welcome to Argentina bro. The true land of the free❤
Thank you so much! I feel the freedom here! It’s a breath of fresh air!
Freedom in Argentina has been around since 1984. Some people think that it is something recent. NOT TRUE!! DON'T LET THEM KID YOU!!
Restrictions n freedom and repression are back!!
Freedom in Argentina has been around since 1984. Some people think that it is something recent. NOT TRUE!! DON'T LET THEM KID YOU!!
Restrictions n freedom and repression are back!!
Tierra de boludos, querrás decir. Que vienen y se quieren llevar todo gratis de un país en banca rota
Except I’m trapped in my house cause I have bars on my windows. Lol
I'm an Argentine American Cabify (like Uber) driver in Buenos Aires, I know there is something called Medical Tourism where Americans and European people travel to Buenos Aires to get procedures done (hair transplant, teeth, miscellaneous other surgeries) and travel around Argentina a little enjoying the savings.. =)
Thanks for sharing that information! I didn’t realize this. But I have been seeing a lot of people with bandages from procedures. Maybe this is what I’ve been seeing.
@@Economic_Frontit’s really not that common. It’s usually Argentinians living abroad that will come back, travel a bit, visit their families and have some procedure done (usually odontology, or cosmetic surgery)
@@Economic_Front the full combo includes bringing some tech gadgets from your country of origin to sell here at great profit (they're stupid expensive here) to cover part of the fare, stay and whatnot
@@agme8045oh a flight attendant said he/she was doing the dental work done in Argentina.
00:47 Oooohhhh Dame tu amor a mí!
Le estoy hablando hablando
hablando a tuu coorazón!
Despite this channel was thought to help the new comer and those who want to come, you're goint to have a lot of argentines suscribers when they notice you. We love the people who love our country and is always interesting and fun to know how they see us and their experiences here. I hope you can help many of future expats/new argentinian citizens (and not just watched by argentines haha, although everybody can see by the comments that we receive you gladly and warmly, perhaps that could be a topic for a future video). My best wishes for you and your family.
Great video idea!
Le dio un re toque Charly de fondo 😂
Regarding health, I`m not sure in Argentina, but in Uruguay (next door country) apart from health insurance companies, you have also "mutualistas" and they are hospitals with a membership monthly fee (like if it was a club or a gym). This is a good system because they get to know their clients, and they keep track of them. It is also in their interest to do preventive care, since they will spend less money. They will do cancer check ups, for example, so they can find it at early stages and remove it by surgery instead of expending a tons of money in a patient doing quimio during years. With the insurance system, hospitals just make more money the more sick you are.
Thanks for the information!
Great update!
Is The same public hospitals . People Is very nice and good atentions . Good look
I’ve been hearing this! We are glad to learn this.
Welcome to Argentina! I hope you spend a beautiful time among us.
I will! Thank you
Vaccines are obligatory in Argentina for children, but it is mostly enforced by the schools.
Las pseudo vacunas que causaron trombos y millones de efectos secundarios para la farsa del 2020-2021 también?
Are there excemptions out of it? I do not believe in vaccines for children.
It's Nice to hear how people treate You. Make me Proud of My country
Awe poor Bridge❤️ Also, it looks and sounds amazing so far! Cant wait to see more updates!!
New subscriber, want to follow your experience living in Argentina. I'm from the US, being to Argentina a couple of times and I love the country, the people, the food, and the culture.
I’m so glad you’ve experienced it! It’s so insanely friendly here in comparison. Very happy to have you subscribing. If you ever have questions please message or ask me on X. I’d love to help more immigration.
I am very glad that you made this video, it is very informative. I have seen comments on videos from other American professionals that degrade the professionalism of other countries just because they are not from a "first world"...
making excuses like "they don't speak the same language, it could be a scam or there is no follow-up afterwards" which seems very hypocritical to me, since scams happen in any country, it is racism and enormous selfishness. Doctors from countries like Argentina study for many years, have a lot of experience and are even more professional than a doctor who only seeks his own benefit, charging a lot for something as simple as an x-ray in USA. Thank you so much for this and greetins from Argentina 💕
Thank you for such a wonderful comment! I love this country and people! It’s the best choice we ever made!
You should have tried a Public Hospital... I worked as an MD at a Public Hospital over 40 years and gosh I am PROUD!!! Health care is al least as good as in a private clinic OR STILL FAR BETTER!!! And you wouldnt have paid anything at all, not even a nickel!!!
Thank you for your service! We have always respected and appreciated medical personnel
For yhe tourists as well
We are paying our public health through our taxes, that still are one of the highest in the worlds. The Argentine State, the State in general does not give anything for free, all is given by us, the citizens of good will (not the leftists) through our taxes.
@@MariaBelenSeyssInquart and we respect that
A friend from Barcelona had an emergency because he's a diabetic. The treatment and cost of the room for one week was free. He was treated at the Zubizarreta Hospital in Buenos Aires last August
Hola! Me alegra que disfruten de nuestro hermoso pais.A los 58 seg mas o menos:Charly hablando a tu corazon!
Thank you! It’s wonderful
Mi hermano vive en Florida. Cada vez que viene a la Argentina, visita al dentista y a los médicos especialistas para hacerse estudios. Sus cirugías han sido aquí también. Creo que en EEUU además sde sobre medicar a sus pacientes, les convierten en "enfermos" consumidores de drogas, tratamientos, terapias, etc. De por vida... todo un gran negocio de los Hospitales, aseguradoras y empresas farmacéuticas...
Wow! You are 100% correct. Thank you for sharing your story and making this point!
Viva la Salud y educacion publica!
And freedom!!
Q tipo de freedom?
Medical care here really is something else! It’s unfair how underpaid the profession is (on average) though.
New subscriber, welcome to Argentina and have a nice stay! 🫶🏼🇦🇷
Thank you so much
I stumbled upon your channel and it makes me so happy to see that you're happy with your decision to kove to Argentina. Keep the good stuff coming!🎉
Thank you so much!
4:59 hi to the one on the back 🤣
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En un hospital público, la calidad de la atención hubiera sido exactamente igual. Quizas el edificio no sea moderno, pero los médicos en Argentina son muy profesionales y la atención es muy buena.
Thank you for sharing this
Bienvenido al mejor país del mundo 🇦🇷
Yes! Thank you
0:50 SAY NO MORE LOCO, AGUANTE CHARLY
lol
I'm happy for you. I live in Canada but I'm from Argentina. I recommend you to get health insurance nevertheless but up to you.
Appreciate your advice! Thank you
Tengo amigos argentinos en California que suelen venir a visitar a sus familiares y hacen un tour medico que les sale super barato. Por ej se operan una rodilla y se hospedan como en un hotel...o se arreglan los dientes, todo por el 10% que en EEUU
Thanks for sharing this!
Hey glad to have you here buddy, things are just going to get better and better.
Yes! Thank you
Welcome to Argentina, man. Congratulations on the baby :)
Thank you! We are very excited!
Public health system is horrible. We have to go before 6 a.m to see if we have luck to get an appointment with a doctor, and if you didn't get one, you have to wait till next month and repeat the process. It's impossible, they're full of immigrants who treat you bad for being argentinian. It's just all horrible. I hope things change.
That’s horrible! Thank you for sharing this story.
El hospital público habria estado probablemente menos prolijo, estéticamente menos bello y hubiera esperado un poco mas, pero habrías obtenido exactamente la misma atención y gratuitamente.
Si tiene poder económico, no debería usar un hospital público, mantenido con nuestros impuestos.
@@basiliusnaaninga7512 no le estoy diciendo lo que tiene que hacer o no, le estoy contando, para que sepa, que hubiera pasado.
@@basiliusnaaninga7512 Si el turista tiene seguro médico, yo creo que el hospital publico les cobra la atención, como hace cuando tenés obra social. Y bueno si no tiene nada que se lleve una buena imagen ese gasto es una inversión para que hable bien del país. Como al pobre estadounidense que perdió la pierna en un robo y acá le salvaron la vida. Dijo que igual volvería porque se sintió cuidado no todo es $$$$ en la vida. Es importante pero no lo es todo. Nunca fuimos una sociedad interesada y ojala no nos transformemos en eso es horrible
Thanks for the great information!
No es gratis,lo pagamos los argentinos con nuestros impuestos y ya estamos sobrepasados ..así q paguen como nosotros debemos hacerlo en su país
ok, I'm hooked on your channel!!! I’m Argentinian living in the USA and love your views on different aspects. They are different and well treated. Nice to hear more from your adventures.
So glad to have you!
Welcome to Argentina. Thanks for your comments.
Thanks! 😃
La salud en Argentina 🇦🇷 es GRATUITA, hubieran ido a un hospital público; allí nadie debe pagar para ser atendido ni tampoco para dar a luz.
that is socialism (according to him)
No es gratuita, la pagamos los argentinos de bien a través de los impuestos. El Estado no te da nada gratis.
@@MariaBelenSeyssInquart y los médicos del hospital la fugan la plata? la mandan a Panamá u otra guarida fiscal?
@@MariaBelenSeyssInquart La plata se la roban y la reparten entre rugbiers; son todos chorros ustedes corruptos
@@pablorey9203 Los médicos del hospital que hagan lo que quieran con el dinero que ganan libremente. Ellos cobran un sueldo que viene de nuestros impuestos. En fin, el hospital público sirve para que nosotros le paguemos a los kirchos y a los zurdos por la medicina con nuestro esfuerzo capitalista.
Sin lujos, pero excelentes profesionales
Yes was great!
Que un medico recomiende vacunarte no es crap, es cuidarte. 🙄
No no no, a private hospital is the same as a public hospital. In fact, all the best averages for the entrance exam for residencies are in public hospitals, all the best medical professionals worked in a public hospital.
Thank you for sharing this!
Welcome to Argentina ! New subscriber
Thank you! So happy to have you
El servicio médico y educativo en la Argentina es “world class”!! Ni un país del “1er mundo” como USA pueda llegarle al talón .. pero bueno, ese costo lo pagamos entre todos, y el beneficio lo gozan hasta los extranjeros 🤷🏽♀️
It’s great here
Así és...Vivamos y dejemos vivir!
Hi, welcome to Argentina, greetings
Thank you!
visit also Tigre district, and northern zone of Buenos Aires. here is the best quality of life in the zone.
Thanks for the tip!
Greetings from Peru. Saw your video announcing moving to Argentina on El Clarín a news channel on IG. Great choice you guys made. Argentina is showing the world how things actually have to be made. How the job has to be done. Wish you guys the best. New follower here🙋🏻♂️
Love to have you following! Thank you and I’m so glad more people are seeing this incredible time for Argentina.
Hello, welcome to Argentina. I hope you enjoy your life here. I don't know what medical care is like in the United States. There are many people commenting on health in our country regarding public hospitals versus private hospitals. Not everyone has the means to receive care in a private hospital. Public hospitals have two opposite poles, one is the infrastructure and the other is the staff. The medical staff of a public hospital is much better by far than that of a private hospital. but they lack supplies and building maintenance. And since it is free, there are always many people attending, which results in more waiting to be attended to.
Thank you for sharing all the details! I think it helps to hear everyone’s views on this topic! Appreciate you .
Te viniste a la Argentina nomas..!! 🎉❤
Love it here
Charly sounding in the background Viva mi 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
:)
New follower, I hope you have a great life in Argentina! Greetings from Buenos Aires!
Thank you so much!
bienvenido a la ARGENTINA EL MEJOR PAÍS DEL MUNDO
YES!!🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
welcome to Argentina bro! i will follow your channel now and watch your videos as i can, i am from Argentina too, i live in Bahia Blanca which is part of Buenos Aires! it makes me happy you are having a nice experience! apologies for any mispelling as well, i taught english myself haha
Your English is great! Thank you so much
🙂 welcome to all of you!
Thank you!
If you're going to live here, you are going to benefit more to have a "prepaga" which is an insurance you just pay monthly like cable, they dont add aditional fees if you visit an hospital like in the us. And that includes everything you need to give birth and your future child care. You just pay a monthly fee x family member according to your plan. It only gets adjusted to inflation
Thank you for the Information!
Happy 4th of July 🎉 !! .Poor little guy ..
It's great to hear that you had a positive experience with the healthcare system here in Argentina. The first-rate care you received in the private hospital can be attributed to the high-quality free education provided by institutions like the University of Buenos Aires (UBA). The UBA educates many of our doctors and healthcare professionals, for "free" through state-funded programs, ensuring that everyone has access to top-tier medical training.
Additionally, the reduced cost of your medical attention is a result of the socialist policies implemented over the past 100 years. These policies have aimed to regulate and subsidize healthcare, making it more affordable and accessible to everyone, regardless of their economic status. This is a testament to the values of solidarity and social welfare that have been at the core of our society.
However, if the inhumane policies of the conservative (not libertarian!) Milei succeed, public health services will become much more expensive, and our country will start to follow the path of the USA. This could lead to a system where only those with significant financial resources can afford quality healthcare, undermining the inclusive and equitable principles we've built over the years.
Welcome to Argentina, and I hope you continue to enjoy and appreciate the unique blend of our social and cultural heritage!
Thank you for the welcome! Also thank you for sharing your information and point of view.
@@Economic_Front You are welcome. It's great to hear that you had a positive experience with the healthcare system here in Argentina. What you and your family are enjoying now in Argentina was built through a state-regulated capitalism, which has fostered a morally sound country. This healthy blend of 19th-century liberal traditions and a strong work culture institutionalized by Peronism incorporates the anarchist and socialist leftist traditions from Europe. It's this unique combination that has shaped our nation's moral and social fabric.
What do you mean "treat us like a customer"??
Doctors and nurses treat us as a human being not matter what.
If you go to a public hospital will not make any difference,.
I was comparing to the USA experience. In the USA you’re treated like cattle. You’re also treated like an inconvenience.
I’m happy to hear that! Argentine culture is incredible.
$30 lol. That’s amazing. We’re getting robbed left and right here in the US. No reason we should be paying hundreds or thousands of dollars a month in insurance to get treated like crap by the healthcare here. It’s horrible.
You nailed it!!!
I'd like to say our Health Care System is not perfect at all. Indeed it has many flaws and not everyone is happy, including patients and health staff for several good reasons. However, I think we are still very lucky and I can get you because I know the problem you have in US with this matter. You must pay a fortune if in need of medical care and treatment and many Americans just can't. I watched Michael Moore's film, Sicko some years ago. I remember what happened with Obama Care. It's not a model to imitate. Anyway... Don't expect most people here to understand it because the grass is always greener in the US. They'll assume that absolutely everything must be better since it's part of the first world while at the same time they'll tell you without a blink that Argentina is the best country in the world and they may truly think so! These are some of the peculiar mysteries of the Argie nature. Welcome to our dearest Argentine land. You'll never get bored.😁
Thank you so much! And for the information
Public hospitals are as good or better at some thing than private ones.
My brother was redirected to the children's public hospital after 2 failed surgeries to fix his kidney malformation as a child. The top pediatric nephrologist in the country took his case and fixed the problem in one go.
That’s amazing story! Thanks for sharing this.
Glad that you had have a good health assistant here in argentina, hope your son is doing fine.
Thank you!
Buenos Aires city hospitals are great bro, so glad that people like you choose my country to live. Wish you the best, and I would love to be your friend
Thank you!
Welcome to Buenos Aires, i love the 80s synth music playing in the back. I hope you already know the name of those artists!
Happy to know you have been treated well on a medical emergency.
Id like to meet people like you! I have been following Jeff Berwick since 2020 and he mentions Mr Casey a lot. I am curious about this as its hard sometimes to connect with people with similar ideas.
Cheers from San Telmo ©
i wish to you and your family the best of luck in this amazing country
Thank you!
Back in 2018 I went to the US with my family for an exchange program. We had to take our kid to a hospital in Missouri for the same reason as you guys, they charged us 250 dollars for an x-ray!. In 2020 our daughter was born here in Argentina, in a public hospital. We didn't pay a single cent.
Thank you for sharing this!
New subscriber here! Welcome! And I do recommend you plan a visit to the Patagonia region in the summer.
Great advice! And thank you for the warm welcome.
Welcome to Argentina! Te deseo éxitos a vos y tu familia, y mucha suerte en la decisión y camino a recorrer que tendrán. And in case you're still learning Spanish, I wish sucess to you and your family, and the best of fortunes. See you soon.
Thank you for the warm welcome!
4:40 i know you're talking about private hospitals prices but birth and g section is completely free in public hospitals here, other stuff like for example abortion is free too(since 2020 a law passed), contraceptive treatments like vasectomy or tubal ligation are free also in public hospitals.
Thanks for the information
It can be said that Argentina is slowly recovering what made it great before, what it once represented in the world. I hope that your life here is the best possible and that your family can be happy in this beautiful country!
Thank you so much!
nadie diria eso nunca
@@facundomolli3089 que cosa?
Vaccines are obligatory here - they are provided at the medical centers - there are required when you sign up for school
Good information. Hopefully this changes.
Just heard of your channel on Twitter. Watched the video of you telling you're moving here. Let me welcome you to my beautiful country, hope you find a home in it. Saludos y buena vida! :)
Thank you for the warm welcome!
Welcome to Argentina, and Welcome to the forces of heaven!
"...and Wellcome to the forces of hell". There I fixed it for ya.
Enjoy healthcare while it last. They already Fired doctors. The same they calles "heros" on pandemy.
Thank you!
Welcome to Argentina. Whenever you have a chance, I would suggest to visit some of the provinces. I was born near the Iguazú falls, which is an incredible popular place to visit, but it gos way beyond that. Argentina's interior is beautiful.
Looking forwards to it! Thank you
Welcome !!!
Gracias!
Please note that Argentinians salary is not comparable to USA at all, therefore that price for the citizens there is high. iT IS TRUE THAT THERE ARE FREE HOSPITAL WHERE YOU MAY PAY BANDAGE AND MEDICINE ONLY. YES, SO FAR DOCTORS ARE EXCELLENT AND i SAY SO FAR, BECAUSE IT IS VERY NOTICEABLE THAT DOCTORS THAT WENT TO STUDY MEDICINE THERE ARE NOT APPLYING THE SAME CRITERY AS THE LOCALS. iT IS KIND OF "TITLE MATTER", THEREFOR THEIR MEDICAL SERVICE IS NOT AS GOOD AS THE NATIONALS. Bue in general there are many doctors that even visit their patients at home, not expecting a sick person travel to their clinic.
Thank you for the information
hello New suscriber here!
Welcome! Thank you
Los hospitales públicos son muy buenos
Thanks for this info!
Hola, la gente se muestra tan agradecida con tu actitud, porque lamentablemente la mayoría de los extranjeros que vienen de paises vecinos vienen a vivir de nosotros, usurpan terrenos, colapsan nuestros servicios, viven sin trabajar con planes que pagamos los argentinos que trabajamos y critican el pais.
Lo mejor es tener obra social y atenderte en clinicas privadas. Antes iba por necesidad a hospitales públicos, y aunque te atienden bien, siempre esta saturado de extranjeros a los que les dan prioridad, y yo como argentina teniendo que esperar mucho para todo. Incluso siempre faltan materiales y no alcanzan, porque se gasta todo en esa gente. No debería ser gratuito para extranjeros, vivan o no en el pais, es muy injusto para el nativo
I agree with what you’re saying. It’s not a sustainable the way things are going. Really appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
Tal cual!! El padre de una amiga que vive en EEUU se vino a hacer la dentadura postiza aquí,la pagó pero menos que allá.Y muy feliz!!
A los que dicen que la guardia de un hospital público es buena, les pregunto si alguna vez se hicieron atender o fueron a la guardia del hospital Argerich o Santojanni por ejemplo
Yo fui a la guardia del hospital de clinicas San Martin y fui atendido a nivel de excelencia, vivo en el Reino Unido y la atención acá deja mucho que desear
I’m curious to learn more about this too. Thanks for the comment.
@@ggl2947 Tuviste suerte, yo la llevé a mi mamá de 80 años con bronquitis y no la querian atender, yo creí que se moria de la tos, empecé a gritar como un loco que hasta vino la policia y recién ahí se dignaron a atenderla. Eso fue hace años, ya en el 2022 mi mamá tuvo un ACV y la trataron mal y allí falleció. Una golondrina no hace verano, yo me atendí en los hospitales públicos toda mi vida y la atención es horrible, lleno de gente, la mayoria extranjeros y te tratan muy mal y de muy mala gana
@@davealone1798 Que triste tu historia, lo lamento, pero también hay muchísima gente diciendo que la atendieron muy bien. De qué localidad sos?
@@aphewtxin CABA
Hello, welcome to Argentina. I'm from Venezuela, have been here for 5 years. Hope you keep posting videos. And also if you need to ask any question don't hesitate... Regards
Thank you!
Hi, i got recommend your video yesterday and i didn't watch it, now RUclips recommend me it again, i had to see it haha, im glad you like Argentina, im argentinian and I've been living my whole life here, never been overseas to another country, so i dont know much how healthcare and other things really work besides what i watch on internet or heard, i didn't know that in USA doctors treat you as costumer instead that as a person, that's bad and i can imagine that's a bad feeling to have when actually you need to go to a hospital to feel better, not to get your bank account empty of money, i always like when foreigners come here and say good things about my country, be careful though with your phone in the street because of robberies,in buenos aires city there is a lot of areas where robberies and crime is not that bad and the police is better compared to my city ( i live in the southern part of the "conurbano" we call it, its a huge part with many cities that surrounds buenos aires city to the south, east , west,north if you see it on a map). I hope you liked the trip, un saludo👍
Thank you so much! It’s funny how that RUclips algorithm works.
Welcome to Argentina!
Thank you!
Hi, I just want to settle a bit of a myth. I you were to go to any of the public hospitals around the country, which is vast, you would receive the same treatment for free!, please do not be hesitant! The same doctors and nurses who work in them are dedicated and serious professionals who take there job at heart. The buildings my be in a bit of disrepair, thanks to years of lack of maintenance. You mentioned in one of your first videos, when on duty for the last time as a cop back in the US, we have suffered years of mismanagement.
Just wanted to set slate clear if in an emergency your only option is a public hospital, rest assured they are trustworthy and efficient! Again welcome to Argentina!i
Thank you for sharing this!
If you land in a public hospital in an emergency it would count too, they ask for your private health insurance too, but the idea in general in the country is that in an emergency the treatment is not that costly as in USA. You wouldn't get short in treatment, the problem we have is the medicine and lab material that comes from overseas, that is really expensive ( but covered in part for the insurance). The idea of the new government is to extend a payment for procedures begining at 250 dls for foreigners ( done now in certain areas of the provinces limiting other countries as an experiment, because the government cut he funding on small health centers). It would be very hard to implement in national hospitals, as the free health is coded in the laws of the land. In my opinion the quality of life of everyone depends in a big part in the low rate in medical treatments, I hope it keep this way.
Thanks for all the information!
great info,
Glad it was helpful!
Sube mas videos porfa. Buen contenido. Bienvenido a argentina y saludos!!!
Will do! Thank you
welcome!! un argentino nace donde se le de la gana!
The health insurance companies are milking people here in Argentina, too! What a limited view you have of the situation. And yes, do come to Argentina with an insurance because if something more serious than a crushed finger happened to you, you would get taken to a public hospital where, unlike the USA, you would be treated for free in perhaps a less nice atmosphere, with less "fit" (!!!!) nurses, but still with great efficiency. The thing is, public resources here are unfortunately way too limited and they should be ideally destined for local people, not for tourists who decide not to buy travel insurance because it's "scam".
PS: I'd much rather be treated as a person, not a customer, when in need of help.
The Public Hospital also are very good in Buenos Aires
Thank you