@@dominikpatrikmolnar5176 I'd say that Jing Yuan has it easier on the CV ratio, since his LC gives like 30+cdmg while his full traces give about 12+crate. In reality, he just needs a crate body piece to reach a good balance.
@kollie79 true, I'm asking only because past tl 40 is a real pain investing on a new character and I wanted to know if its worth the pain...although yeah i think it as well
If you didn't already know, 116 speed is the sweet spot. I think after that 141 speed is what you want... but you need perfect speed substats for that...
I just realized I wasted a lot of materials maxing his skill and ult. This video is really helpful. I'm about to reach e4 and I'll probably just level up the talent and the other traces on the sides
in the end, you're still going to want to max everything, the ones he mentioned are just the ones you want to focus first/ the most important ones because those are the core ones that make his kit work most effectively.
In my opinion they must do 2 things: 1 the talent must allow him to recover energy to ult more often like seele and dan heng and 2 all the buffs that Jing gets must be copied to the stand this would also enable buffers like bronya to buff jing's talent
If you have tingyuan in party then jingyuan no need regeneration energy. His lightcone is the best for all erudition classes cause this only one card which give critical dmg. After that is sevral for ultimate dmg lightcone and then herta because she gives follow attack which use jingyuan for your skill.❤ Important thing to increase regeneration energy asap you need improve tingyuan idelons. Because on e0 she gives you practicly half of energy which later after using skill you recharge ulti. Remember first look on ulti later on skill and last as basic. In erudition.
they really did the himeko light cone dirty. If they swapped it to "on weakness break gain x% dmg and y% atk stacking up to 5 times" it would be so much better.
@@twistedfate62 yes and no because her lightcone count a dot attackers, which is perfect match for himiko. Because she deal fire dot. To know what class deal dot dmg you need read describtions:) but not everyone want reading so it is what it is.
@@Igraphi7335 idk, they should just make it so the bloody thing doesn't get weaker as a fight goes on. Nearly all the 4* options perform the same if not better than her signature 5*.
@@Igraphi7335 No bruhh, What are you smoking, HImiko's Lightcone is shit, Period. No amount of Mental gymnastic is gonna help it, idk wtf you're talking about DOT this or DOT that...you do know that Erudition's gimmick is AOE damage, right? Not their DOT? And even then you're better off giving everyone Breakfast Lightcone which is better than Himiko's Lightcone for DOT's. I swear Bijjes come out of the woodworks to defend Himiko's Lightcone and Kit saying it's good...Like....
Best team for Jingyuan: Luocha - Tingyun - Jingyuan - Bronya, buff atk + energy + dmg outcome, decent amount of heal, remove debuffs (Jingyuan is stunned, Jingyuan is a dog trash). With Bronya, you dont even need speed boots. For guys dont have Luocha, you can absolutely use Natasha or Lynx (need E2 at least), and please, no Bailu, Bailu is stunned, Bailu is a dogshit as well :>
Only need 1 use of tingyun in MoC start, you will skill him up with her at start of round and technique + skill will give her full charge to use ult, no need to use the extra technique. Given you built her in such a way she has enough speed for turn priority anyway. She doesnt need full atk atk atk, should also use speed boots.
I hate when the video says "Dont make these mistakes" then he shows his not optimal build saying, i have crit dmg but u need crit rate... what is the point of the video. At least have the build that u are promoting as the "right build" and show it.
I did a full 4pc set for my seele and she did okay and stuff, but after i decided to go 2pc quantum dmg and 2 pc wild west (+12% atk) which had actually some broken sub stats. I got around 2.7k attack with an easy 60% crit rate and 160 crit damage although she was at 118speed. She does pretty decent (20k skill and 40-50k ult) considering that her light cone and she herself is just at 70 and her ult and skill are at lvl 6. I can do about the same thing with jinguan with the 4pc electro relic set cause i got a little lucky though the attack is a little low because of a trash planar sphere. Looking forward to roll on more in the future.
Serious question. Did you ever considered to use Jing Yuan with both Tingyun and Asta? It's a bit riskier, but so far seems really trong as an option to me.
i use asta and tingyun in virtual world once i get my abundance set going, as then i dont need my healer, and then i do lots of damage, but my jing yuan is also already at 132 speed, most my team is >120 spd.
I just got it today within 20 pulls and i dont even have him yet 😂 but im guaranteed so i will 100% get him before hes gone Update: I skipped him for Silver Wolf and as a "thank you"-gift she came home within my first 10 pulls. Now I'm saving for Lady Kafka next
i have an e1 bronya w her signature weapon and i use her instead of spd (he has 109). a pretty good combo but a little inefficient skill points wise (bronya skill and ultimate can give extra sp tho)
bruh… why people always try to build him or anyone deal hundred of dmg, u can just make him deal around 20-30k and maybe the highest dmg is 50k and it is good enough to play the game man. -it was my mistake when i play Genshin (spend all of my life for artifact)
İm using my jing yuan in a team like : bailu-march-asta-jing yuan but i dont know that should i replace asta with tinghyuan because if i do in the team there will be 3 lightning char???? Sorry if did write not understandable
@@jvrbwn6232 With bronya you need her to be slower than Jing but faster than LL so I reccomend the spd boots go to Jing. The optimal spd for Jing yuan is 145-115 spd so bellow 115 is good enough. Ting yuan should always be faster than Jing and is also able to get 2 turns but the attack stat also needs to be enough to get over 2k atk same goes for Jing yuan. If you do a hyper carry team comp with Jing yuan, Bronya, and Ting only use Ting yuan's buff after 3 turns you can build up enough SP for Jing yuan to attack 2x with bonya's skill to consitently get 10 stacks also make him as close as possible to your tank(Preferrably Gepard fire mc would watse to many skill points over the match) so he can take damage to recharge energy faster. If you decide to bring a healer instead this may sound crazy but do not use the skill often you need to have high energy recharge and hp on them so you can consitently use the ULT for heals instead of the skill this strat is very risky but you would be able to get 10 stack consitently.
Ohh damn!!! Same!!! Just one Tingyun.. that's all I'm asking for.. but nooooo.. hoyoverse will give me off-banner characters and a bunch of sushangs than a Tingyun. 😭😭😭😭 FML
youre using skill points just to move him up, mega expensive just to get the same outcome with tingyun, probably more damage coz her buff > atk boots and she gets 3 skillpoints back and fills his ultimate
@@SoraGachas You don't have to move him up every single time with Bronya though and Tingyun's benediction is longer than one turn so her and another character will be able to keep skill points up. Plus you'll get to a point to where lightning lord is at 10 and Jing Yuan has a turn so you don't need to use his skill especially since the atk buff from using it lasts 2 turns.
@@malsawmzela609 how is it possible tho? Jing yuan's energy is fixed at 120, and currently there is no way to buff this stat, so a1 battle pass LC should be fixed at 120*0.2 = 24% DMG buff. A5 breakfast also gives 24% DMG buff with no condition, PLUS 8% ATK buff for each enemy defeated, 3 stacks max.
@@mai_balls He has 130 max energy, so 26% at S1. Breakfast is still better though. That Prydwen statement is also incorrect. I checked their character builder, and it shows S5 breakfast as better than S1 Peaceful Day. It's probably already on par at S2, and slightly better at S3, but that's 4 months or so from now, if you decide to invest into that one LC.
You still have time to get him, hopefully the event rewards and stuff can make him appear for you Also based on genshins (inconsistent) rythm id say we get his rerun in like February ish next year?
@@NightAncez nice. I just pulled his lc within 20 pulls yesterday, and I dont even have Jing Yuan yet 😂 but my next character is guaranteed and I was like "okay IF I get his lc i will pull jing yuan, otherwise i will skip him." And then I just see the rainbow ticket and won the 75/25💀
just a though, but from my experience if you have bronya then you can use a hypercarry team and have jing yuan's spd be only a few higher than the rest, and have bronya forward his turn after he used his skill so he doesn't need to rely on spd to get more stacks. it consumes a lot of skill points but the point of a hypercarry team is to use the rest of the team as skill pt fuel, while buffing up jing yuan's lightning lord so he can wipe out the entire team
@@vanilla5930 ya it works but you'll be very tight on skill points and need certain speeds on certain characters, E1 Bronya would fix that issue tho for the most part
I have him at 125 spd now but i heard that he needs ~ 141 spd to use his skill twice 🥲 so should i build atk instead or continue using my 125 spd set ?
You can also place him beside tank/with a taunt so he can get hit with splash damage and gain energy fast 🙂
Nice idea 😁
bro has 150% crit dmg with 30% crit rate, i dont know what to believe anymore
@@dominikpatrikmolnar5176 I'd say that Jing Yuan has it easier on the CV ratio, since his LC gives like 30+cdmg while his full traces give about 12+crate.
In reality, he just needs a crate body piece to reach a good balance.
Clara?
Fire trailblazer :)
Imaging they buff him in the near future and they increase the max stacks on the Lord...
That should be a thing on his Eidolons
Maybe they would add an artifact set for additional ataccks instead of they clown electro set
they won't buff him becz he is a really good unit but his main pottential is locked behind his LC
@Utkarsh yeah ik ... although even without his lc and at e1 he is still pretty strong ...general question, is yanqing worth investing as a f2p???
@kollie79 true, I'm asking only because past tl 40 is a real pain investing on a new character and I wanted to know if its worth the pain...although yeah i think it as well
If you didn't already know, 116 speed is the sweet spot. I think after that 141 speed is what you want... but you need perfect speed substats for that...
The exact amount of Speed u need is 120 if u use the lightning set( look at the buffs u get from the 2-piece set
I just realized I wasted a lot of materials maxing his skill and ult. This video is really helpful. I'm about to reach e4 and I'll probably just level up the talent and the other traces on the sides
in the end, you're still going to want to max everything, the ones he mentioned are just the ones you want to focus first/ the most important ones because those are the core ones that make his kit work most effectively.
Skill is important too cuz yeah you're gonna use it every single time
In my opinion they must do 2 things: 1 the talent must allow him to recover energy to ult more often like seele and dan heng and 2 all the buffs that Jing gets must be copied to the stand this would also enable buffers like bronya to buff jing's talent
Battlepass one actually ends up doing more damage then FTP one since 2% more dmg is more than the ATK buff and its more consistent
If you have tingyuan in party then jingyuan no need regeneration energy.
His lightcone is the best for all erudition classes cause this only one card which give critical dmg.
After that is sevral for ultimate dmg lightcone and then herta because she gives follow attack which use jingyuan for your skill.❤
Important thing to increase regeneration energy asap you need improve tingyuan idelons.
Because on e0 she gives you practicly half of energy which later after using skill you recharge ulti.
Remember first look on ulti later on skill and last as basic. In erudition.
they really did the himeko light cone dirty. If they swapped it to "on weakness break gain x% dmg and y% atk stacking up to 5 times" it would be so much better.
@@twistedfate62 yes and no because her lightcone count a dot attackers, which is perfect match for himiko. Because she deal fire dot.
To know what class deal dot dmg you need read describtions:) but not everyone want reading so it is what it is.
@@Igraphi7335 idk, they should just make it so the bloody thing doesn't get weaker as a fight goes on. Nearly all the 4* options perform the same if not better than her signature 5*.
@@Igraphi7335 No bruhh, What are you smoking, HImiko's Lightcone is shit, Period. No amount of Mental gymnastic is gonna help it, idk wtf you're talking about DOT this or DOT that...you do know that Erudition's gimmick is AOE damage, right? Not their DOT? And even then you're better off giving everyone Breakfast Lightcone which is better than Himiko's Lightcone for DOT's. I swear Bijjes come out of the woodworks to defend Himiko's Lightcone and Kit saying it's good...Like....
Going for Tingyun BP light cone tells me you are a true man of culture.
Best team for Jingyuan: Luocha - Tingyun - Jingyuan - Bronya, buff atk + energy + dmg outcome, decent amount of heal, remove debuffs (Jingyuan is stunned, Jingyuan is a dog trash). With Bronya, you dont even need speed boots. For guys dont have Luocha, you can absolutely use Natasha or Lynx (need E2 at least), and please, no Bailu, Bailu is stunned, Bailu is a dogshit as well :>
Spending 80 star rail passes for before dawn but instead getting sleep like the dead
Only need 1 use of tingyun in MoC start, you will skill him up with her at start of round and technique + skill will give her full charge to use ult, no need to use the extra technique. Given you built her in such a way she has enough speed for turn priority anyway. She doesnt need full atk atk atk, should also use speed boots.
Really great guide!! Not sure if I’ll end up getting him but I’ll have this video if I ever do!
For speed for now and mid game with asta maybe or tinguyn edilon .U will need about 120-130 late game it might increase.
I hate when the video says "Dont make these mistakes" then he shows his not optimal build saying, i have crit dmg but u need crit rate... what is the point of the video. At least have the build that u are promoting as the "right build" and show it.
Keep up the good work, your vídeos are amazing
I did a full 4pc set for my seele and she did okay and stuff, but after i decided to go 2pc quantum dmg and 2 pc wild west (+12% atk) which had actually some broken sub stats. I got around 2.7k attack with an easy 60% crit rate and 160 crit damage although she was at 118speed. She does pretty decent (20k skill and 40-50k ult) considering that her light cone and she herself is just at 70 and her ult and skill are at lvl 6. I can do about the same thing with jinguan with the 4pc electro relic set cause i got a little lucky though the attack is a little low because of a trash planar sphere. Looking forward to roll on more in the future.
I'm using himiko light cone because it gives more stats and because I have to since the game forced it on me
Same bro…. Sad
my jingyuan: 3376 atk 129speed 38%cr 126.4%cd 123.9% BREAK = 130k+ ultimate
my seele: 3233 atk 161 speed 21%cr 126.4%cd 31.7% break = 100k ultimate
^with bronya, gepard and bailu. no other buffers.
That has to be the biggest thumbnail clickbait in HSR short history. Still, interesting guide
Serious question. Did you ever considered to use Jing Yuan with both Tingyun and Asta? It's a bit riskier, but so far seems really trong as an option to me.
i use asta and tingyun in virtual world once i get my abundance set going, as then i dont need my healer, and then i do lots of damage, but my jing yuan is also already at 132 speed, most my team is >120 spd.
That's what I do Jing, Ting, Asta, Natasha
I remember, u get ur first free one after defeating svarog for the first time
Wish me luck for his light cone, currently at 40 pity 😌
I just got it today within 20 pulls and i dont even have him yet 😂 but im guaranteed so i will 100% get him before hes gone
Update: I skipped him for Silver Wolf and as a "thank you"-gift she came home within my first 10 pulls. Now I'm saving for Lady Kafka next
Whats you jing yuan’s stats now. Im doing pretty good with an r3 4* lc.
Thanks for this! I like your style of explaining.
i have an e1 bronya w her signature weapon and i use her instead of spd (he has 109). a pretty good combo but a little inefficient skill points wise (bronya skill and ultimate can give extra sp tho)
i use jing, clara, march 7 and tingyun in a team- the comp is sooo weird but it kinda work tho (unlimited follow up attacks too)
This is my first team before switching March 7th with the Fire MC. This team comp easily can run through the Simulated Universe :)
Great video. I am still trying to get him but if I do I'll know how to make him stronger. Is it worth to on future reruns of him to go for Eidolons?
if u think a lil bit of increase is worth the value of 100 - 200 dollars then sure...
@@rolf1819 Thanks. Since it's just a little then it's a no for me.
Great video, subscribed
bruh… why people always try to build him or anyone deal hundred of dmg, u can just make him deal around 20-30k and maybe the highest dmg is 50k and it is good enough to play the game man.
-it was my mistake when i play Genshin (spend all of my life for artifact)
Why no one is talking about Geniuses Repose ????
i think its pretty good one as well i have it on A2
pls guide
İm using my jing yuan in a team like : bailu-march-asta-jing yuan but i dont know that should i replace asta with tinghyuan because if i do in the team there will be 3 lightning char???? Sorry if did write not understandable
I got himeko's light cone do i give it jing yuan,dont have max s5 on breakfast lightcone yet only s1 (can buy one from forgotten halls exchange)
I pair him with Bronya.
so long as Jing is faster than Bronya I'm good 😂
I have bronya. Should i use spd boots?
I also have tingyun
@@jvrbwn6232 who is your main dps?
@@Ilikegames804 jing yuan. Its okay i use atk boots
@@jvrbwn6232 With bronya you need her to be slower than Jing but faster than LL so I reccomend the spd boots go to Jing. The optimal spd for Jing yuan is 145-115 spd so bellow 115 is good enough. Ting yuan should always be faster than Jing and is also able to get 2 turns but the attack stat also needs to be enough to get over 2k atk same goes for Jing yuan. If you do a hyper carry team comp with Jing yuan, Bronya, and Ting only use Ting yuan's buff after 3 turns you can build up enough SP for Jing yuan to attack 2x with bonya's skill to consitently get 10 stacks also make him as close as possible to your tank(Preferrably Gepard fire mc would watse to many skill points over the match) so he can take damage to recharge energy faster. If you decide to bring a healer instead this may sound crazy but do not use the skill often you need to have high energy recharge and hp on them so you can consitently use the ULT for heals instead of the skill this strat is very risky but you would be able to get 10 stack consitently.
just got amazed that tingyun is better than bronya w jing yuan... if you use bronya well, she's better than tingyun
thumbnail be like
normal fight vs doomsday beast LOL
Good job. I learned a lot. I'm at TB 50 and wonder if running Serval with Jing Yuan is good.
I pulled Night on the Milky Way, and I will probably never use it.
My bailu out CRIT ting my main DPS has always been bothering me
What does Welt contribute to that party?
There's no way i just watch a 26minute video instead of farming.
💗
About breakfast buff, is it still active in multiple battle? For example 6 round of calyxes or double enemy in overworld..
No it doesnt
im 130 pulls in and guess what, still no ting yun.. FML
It could be worse trust me… 160 pulls on seele banner got me e2 seele, frickin e10 if notmore natasha … 0 pela
Ohh damn!!! Same!!! Just one Tingyun.. that's all I'm asking for.. but nooooo.. hoyoverse will give me off-banner characters and a bunch of sushangs than a Tingyun. 😭😭😭😭 FML
i have the same problem with the only 5 attacks, and i have 124 spd, so its 125 spd
I got both jing yuan and his lighcone f2p
I use jing, yanqing, gepard and bronnya is that good combo?
Is it good to run jy, tingyun, sw, luocha?
Is geniune repose good for jingyuan?
i got the geniuses repose at r5 can i use that for jing yuan ?
you need at least 120 speed on jing yuan
dude what about this team : SW / Jing Yuan / Tingyun / Bailu ?
thanks man!
How is bronya not good with him? Literally I can run him on attack boots and get 10 stacks every time thanks to her
Her damage buff on her skill doesn’t buff the lightning lord cause it only lasts 1 turn which ends right after jing yuan’s turn
Bronya ult though is a big boost for jingyuans talent
youre using skill points just to move him up, mega expensive just to get the same outcome with tingyun, probably more damage coz her buff > atk boots and she gets 3 skillpoints back and fills his ultimate
@@SoraGachas You don't have to move him up every single time with Bronya though and Tingyun's benediction is longer than one turn so her and another character will be able to keep skill points up. Plus you'll get to a point to where lightning lord is at 10 and Jing Yuan has a turn so you don't need to use his skill especially since the atk buff from using it lasts 2 turns.
The BP one is second best, but it's not F2P.
at s5 yeah
at s1 its worse than breakfast
@@SoraGachas according to prydwen, even at a1 the battlepass one is still better. I don't know if they're accurate though obviously.
@@malsawmzela609 how is it possible tho? Jing yuan's energy is fixed at 120, and currently there is no way to buff this stat, so a1 battle pass LC should be fixed at 120*0.2 = 24% DMG buff. A5 breakfast also gives 24% DMG buff with no condition, PLUS 8% ATK buff for each enemy defeated, 3 stacks max.
@@mai_balls I'm pretty sure Jing's ulti cost 130 energy.
@@mai_balls He has 130 max energy, so 26% at S1. Breakfast is still better though. That Prydwen statement is also incorrect. I checked their character builder, and it shows S5 breakfast as better than S1 Peaceful Day. It's probably already on par at S2, and slightly better at S3, but that's 4 months or so from now, if you decide to invest into that one LC.
THANK YOU
are your level 60 characters unascended or ascended and unlevelled?
Make a video of Himeko's controversy please
thank god i have enough speed
I lost my 50/50 at 90 and now I am 40 multiple in. I don't have enough gems 😢😢😢😢😢 when is the rerun.
You still have more than 2 weeks to get him, don't give up yet!
You still have time to get him, hopefully the event rewards and stuff can make him appear for you
Also based on genshins (inconsistent) rythm id say we get his rerun in like February ish next year?
@@envisionenvii3641 thanks bro
@@SoraGachas I hope I get it soon
keep your pity for silverwolf i guess
What about geniuses repose lightcone?
So, Tingyun, Jing,Sushang and Nat is good?
I would say no, Sushang uses to many skill points. Which jing needs
Big Big Daddy Lord Golden Susanoo LMAOOOOO
My mistake is i lost the 50/50
21:47 me too,man.. me too.. 😞
Does team dmg buff also apply to the lightning lord?
If the buff affects Jing yuan then yes
@@NightAncez ohhh. This enables some insane synergy
@@Justme-jp8ih idk at the moment all I can say is jy with his lc is so good
@@NightAncez nice. I just pulled his lc within 20 pulls yesterday, and I dont even have Jing Yuan yet 😂 but my next character is guaranteed and I was like "okay IF I get his lc i will pull jing yuan, otherwise i will skip him." And then I just see the rainbow ticket and won the 75/25💀
@@Justme-jp8ih cool , anywyas his lc is okay for himeko or Clara. I have to be honest the upcoming of loucha and blade.... Idk what I'm going to do
I want Bronya, i have her card but not her
Doesn't the lightning lord attack restore energy?
only on e4
@@SoraGachas aye I might have confused it with Tingyun's benediction at E2
not by default
but if it happens to defeat something u get energy from that
RIGHT!
140 speed, 139 will not work
I sadly have Hime Light Cone 😢
same but i have himeko so i combine him with himeko 😂😂
Build himeko ou hook?
Can anyone confirm how much speed is optimum for JY?
I was informed it's 134 if you wanna hit 10 on the first one and then be able to do double skills after
just a though, but from my experience if you have bronya then you can use a hypercarry team and have jing yuan's spd be only a few higher than the rest, and have bronya forward his turn after he used his skill so he doesn't need to rely on spd to get more stacks. it consumes a lot of skill points but the point of a hypercarry team is to use the rest of the team as skill pt fuel, while buffing up jing yuan's lightning lord so he can wipe out the entire team
@@vanilla5930 ya it works but you'll be very tight on skill points and need certain speeds on certain characters, E1 Bronya would fix that issue tho for the most part
@@SoraGachas so speed build is better than attck build right?
Get speed boots, thats what I did
I got jing yuan with 40 pulls
Now idk what to do with him
First
wtf the similar voice of genshin 😂❤
what are your thoughts on the geniuses repose lc?
very not good unfortunately, just get the s5 breakfast for free
@@SoraGachas okay, thank you!
Bro please just rank them from best to least best instead of of explaining it for like 5 mins 😭
try making a script when doing content
Which is good crit rate or crit damage?
Whatever you need most, crit rate generally speaking will benefit you more tho
If
bruh atleast show your run,
Speed or atk?
If you have tingyun bronya etc spd buffers go for atk. Nonetheless it depends on your relics mostly
@@LocalVani i do have both bronya and tingyun ty bro
Bronya worst? Whyy
Yuan and Bronya r skill point hungry
berhasil
😱 "Promosm"
I have him at 125 spd now but i heard that he needs ~ 141 spd to use his skill twice 🥲 so should i build atk instead or continue using my 125 spd set ?
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