For a first time wood buyer like myself this is extremly helpful. I bought my first face cord a few weeks back and got ripped off. Seller said it was seasoned for 3 to 4 years and it was all Oak and Ash. WRONG! What I got was unseasoned WET Walnut and very little Oak with 1/4 of the face cord being unsplit branches several stumps and 22 to 28 inch long pieces that don't even fit in my fireplace. At the cost of $75.00. I have been watching your videos along with some research and have learned a lot about firewood. I have a fireplace in a modular home and wanted to use it to provide some heat to offset my gas bill. Well so far I have spent another $50.00 buying wood from the gas station to get a good fire going then putting in some of the wood this guy sold me and listening to it sizzle and watching the sap and water run out of it. Now I'm scared about buying another load. Thanks for the videos.
I've got a 1992 Chevy 1/2 ton W/T 1500 4.3L with a 5 speed transmission that my wife and I used to haul one cord loads with every day 6 days a week out in Centralia Washington. I had sideboards level to the cab that tied into a headache rack, air shocks in the rear and 8 ply tires all around. You can haul a full cord of wood like that safely no problems. It was rounded just a bit at the top and a few pieces at the tailgate. I always took it nice and easy out of the woods and did the speed limit. One guy we hauled wood to (a retired state trooper) couldn't believe it until we stacked it in his woodshed. he was so pleased he had finally met an honest firewood cutter he ordered 5 more loads. I would always hear the same thing from folks out there. "I ordered a cord but they only brought me rank and charged me for a cord" or "I ordered a rank and they brought me a pickup load that was thrown in and it didn't even come to 2/3rds of a rank". Folks there are a lot of bums that are only looking for a fast buck and could care less if they get your business again. My advice for what its worth. Ask around in your friends and neighbors that burn wood who they get their would from and if the person does firewood for a living or just a side hustle and are they honest. Not saying that all side hustle fire wood guys are bad but most are. Find one that does wood for his main bread and butter and you'll be better off in the long run. And don't be stingy, flip your cutter at least a $10 or $20 dollar tip. Cutting, splitting and hauling firewood isn't easy work and it cost money. If it was easy you would be getting your own. So be kind and take care of those who are taking care of you. The Little Red Wood Wagon
When I younger a teen, a friend and I used to cut and deliver firewood using an old Army 2-1/2 ton truck. Using the sideboards, we could barely get 3 honestly measured cords in the 8' (wide) x 12' long bed. At that time, we got $50/cord delivered and stacked. Definitely an all day job, especially if the customer made you unload by the street and carry it around to stack. Didn't take us long to see that it wasn't really a viable career option for us; especially considering that we had to drive about 50 miles each way to cut the wood, take it home to hand split, load it into the truck and deliver. Gave me a real appreciation for the old saying that "Firewood will hear you up 4 times-" once for cutting, once for splitting, once for delivery, and finally for stacking. I, for one, am just glad that diesel was only about 17 cents a gallon back then.
@@chuckpreston4981 sounds like you have a good appreciation for hard work. I'm a teen myself and bought a silverado in cash within the last year. One of the many things I do is sell firewood. It would be pretty nice to have a military truck, though. haha
@@timj5413 it's great until you figure in the cost of fuel at 6 mpg (downhill with a hurricane force tailwind...lol), the cost of maintaining the truck, cost of insurance as a commercial vehicle, and the cost of licensing. Add to that the hassle of needing a CDL and medical certification since it has dual driving axles... not really worth it anymore.
This visual demonstration is very helpful for those of us new to buying wood. Just moved to Maine and your videos have been very helpful as a wood stove is my primary heat - and I love it. Many thanks!
Find yourself a used F350 dually,pre 2003 with the old 7.3 Powerstroke and 8' bed. You'll get a full cord in there and,the 7.3 is plenty powerful and,bulletproof to boot. Wish i still had mine.
There is nothing wrong with the short not editing videos. Many people new at buying firewood have no clue of how much wood is in a cord. I think when we got our first fireplace we bought wood and they brought it out in a pick up. Doubt if it was as much as they said it was. Hope they your power back on soon.
I’m really enjoying these raw unedited videos. I think it’s because it’s so REAL. There’s no plan, and no script. Your just rolling with punches, and making the best of an unfortunate situation. Hopefully the power is restored soon.
Im glad u done this video. I have picked up alot of Buisness becausr i deliver an actual cord of wood and people realize they have been screwed in the past. I always tell people that it take 2 loads or 2 trips to deliver a cord in a Truck. Mostly i stack it on a trailer and deliver a full cord and they are surprised at the amout of wood it usually is. Great Video.
We've hauled a number of pickup truck loads of firewood for the "Woodbank" program in our town (donates firewood to families in need during the heating season). For a truck bed like yours, we've generally found the numbers to run right around 1/3 cord thrown in, and 1/2 cord stacked (We don't stack quite as high as you did, since we don't want to risk losing pieces in the road or getting pulled over for an unsafe load - the local police generally don't like to see the wood piled up above the side rails, unless you cover and strap it down, but we can get away with maybe 4-6" above without raising too many eyebrows.) For a smaller truck, like my Tacoma, we figure on about 1/4 cord thrown in, and maybe up to 1/3 (or a bit shy of that) when stacked.
Mike, regarding those cages you've been using for the 1/3 cord. I used to work for a precast concrete manufacturer and our form release oil came in those tote's. It's a vegetable oil and non-toxic. We always gave away those used totes to the plant laborers. They would sell them on Craigs List. If you know anyone at a precast concrete facility, you might be able to get the cages for free or cheap.
Thank you for this video. I'm new to buying firewood for my firepit, so this is extremely helpful. The load I just got was half a cord and when stacked is about 8ft x 3 x 4. Price was $150
In talking to someone that does not use firewood claiming a cord of wood will fit in his pickup. I usually say how tall are your sides. No matter their reply I then say do you know how much wood it takes to make a cord and how much it weighs. They most often do not know. I then tell them that a full cord of wood is 4X4X8 feet. In order to fit a cord into a pickup it must be stacked well above the cab but then it would be way over weight and into the dangerous category. I know because I once hauled a ton of wood pellets in my half ton and will not do that again.
Ya well a cord of green wood weighs about 5,000lbs... pretty sure a 1/2 ton pickup rated for 1,000lbs clearly isn't up to the task unless you wanna pop the leaf spring shackles and send the spring through the bed lol... but hey keep DOT busy
Nope, dont even have to watch, a full size pickup, neatly stacked, 1/2 cord, heaped up perhaps a bit more, 3/5th? No way they fit a full cord unless killing them springs.
I put a cord of firewood in a 1998 Dodge Ram 1500 8ft bed. I did it to just prove a point. It was stacked almost over the cab of the truck. I only drove it from my stack to the house through the yard very slow. No way would I been able to drive down the road with it. I have a picture of it have to try and find it. It must be a PA thing everyone claims they can get a cord of wood in a pickup load.
The video seems fine I enjoyed it I used to be able to haul a cord of firewood but I had a 3/4 ton pickup with an 8-foot bed and a topper shell on there but it was one heck of a load for a pickup
Mike I dislike having to call you out on the "Long Bed" description of your truck. I hate what the automotive industry has done to redefine bed lengths from what they were 20 years ago. 8' is a long bed. Yours is now called a standard bed and less than 6' is called a short bed. I prefer the old system that referred to 8' beds as standard or long bed, 6.5' as short beds and anything less than 6' as a golf cart. Like you I've been in construction all my life. Because of that I have used my trucks daily. Always 8' beds. If they made a 10' bed I'd trade my truck in so fast the dirt couldn't keep up with it. So many construction supplies are in 10' and being able to put those things in the bed, slam the tailgate and go would have saved me 100s of hours in securing crap to the ladder rack. Now 10' would be a long bed but would not have been a long vehicle had they made an Econoline (van) cab with a pickup bed. Thanks for allowing me to vent! Happy holidays to you and yours. VTY, Scott McCarter
In Summer 2018, I needed to replace my F-250, 8 ft bed. I opted to look at 1/2T - no 3/4T in standard cab models. I was going to buy an F-150, but discovered the "8 ft bed" is not 96", rather is 89". This means one cannot haul an 8ft piece of ply wood, or 8ft 2X4s, with endgate up. I ended with a Chev Silverado, 8 ft bed, standard cab. The bed is a full 96". My point is that "8 ft bed" is not always 96". This is misleading - to underscore you concern about "descriptions." I just assumed 8ft bed meant 8 ft bed - not so! I think so many buyers of F-150 are hobby consumers, or just needing a personal vehicle, and really do not care about dimensions. For those of us who want a full 96", beware.
At the beginning of the video he says that. He says he got the longer bed 6.5’ but not the long 8’. We all know there is a 5.5, 6.5 and 8’ beds available. 6.5 certainly is longer than 5.5. So what are you calling him out on?
@@supporterofsanity Thank you very much. I misheard him. Sorry Mike, I've been corrected. Mike did say he got the longer of the two short beds. Appreciate having that pointed out. Have a great Thanksgiving.
Sorry I apologise for not listening well enough. Mike said his truck has the longer (of the two short beds). I should have know that he wouldn't mess up when talking about trucks.
Hi Scott! Are you saying that we can no longer order extra long beds for a pickup? All I know is, at one time you would see them now and then. My guess is they were 10' beds. To me the down side is that the ones I saw were all step-side models. I prefer full width. In this place I will tell a short story. My late wife was British. When we happened to be behind a dually with fender extensions, she would always say, "Look that truck has big hips."
Just posted a video on my channel saying that I was going to go to a little more of a "run & gun" style. I haven't become really proficient with my editing work flow and it is a huge bottle neck at the moment because I tend to try to make them perfect before posting them...going to try a few other styles of filming and editing to really find what I like to do.
Excellent mike!!! Neatly stacked 4ft×4ft×8ft= 1 cord= 128sqft Ford 150 6.5ft×5ft×21in (1.75ft)= 56.8sqft (56.8sqft×100%)÷128sqft=44% Needless to say less than a half a cord in a ford 150 level to side rails.
Your videos are still great Mike. Hate that you are going thru this but you are prepared for these things. Sure glad you didn’t get any wind with all the ice on the trees it sure wrecks the woods. Keep safe and sorry about the double comments on this video, got carried away and whoosh the first one was gone. Thanks for sharing.
I used to cut wood on my parent’s farm and take it home to my house. One time I loaded up my 8 foot bed truck with green oak, ash and a little hackberry tight and above the bed about like yours. All I can say is thank goodness for 4wd as I was a little “floaty” in front on the way home. Never repeated the stunt.
Great video with some good, real world information. I need to get some gravel and I'm already worried I'm going to get shorted. I wouldn't have a clue if I ordered 10 tons and only get 7. Hope they get you guys back up soon.
An 8 foot bed can hold a full cord if you know how to stack it. I do it all the time. Suspension/tires are going to be the weak links. I just hauled 4 face cord home with my factory 8 ft bed yesterday. It was stacked a little taller than the cab. I normally carry at least a full cord. A load of wet oak weighs around 6,000 lbs.
So here in northern Ontario where I am they sell 1/2 ton loads as a single .So most people buy wood as noted singles usually 10 to 12 singles . If you buy it by the truck load ( log truck ) these come as full logs and you would get 18 to 20 singles , Just have to watch it's not 1/2 load season . I like your bush lot you have done lots of under brush clearing . I hope to do the same 100 acre wood lot . nice video
I love to see your wife work she reminds me of a lady that use to work with me I work for a man and he word at night so he had me to run his hen farm and cow farm and we had to cut fire wood for winter she was a very hard worker too they were great friends too I miss doing that kind of work and may y'all have happy happy merry merry and a happy happy I hope you get that for the 3 Holliday's comeing up. God bless yall for now.
Hey Mike. Glad you did this. Here in Louisiana, we buy by the “rick” which is 1/2 a cord. So I’m glad to see how much actually fits in 6.5’ bed. Thanks 👍👍
Glad you posted this, here in Tn. folks most often sell/buy a "rick" of fire wood and it's most often just an 8ft bed full front/back/side/side with a full hump risen in the middle of the bed. I never fully knew just how much it actually was, but is sounds about 2/3 a cord.
Yes, I have put 2/3 cord or 2 face (at 16" long) in many 8 foot truck beds, over the years. I got ripped off twice this year, Because I can't judge a 6x12 dump trailer (LOAD) DON'T (unless You are buying from Mr. Morgan) try to find wood after November. cuz the reputable sellers are sold out, witch opens the doors for lairs .Check out my latest rant. Not considering 10 inch length, Rot, Pine, Aspen (they are not fire wood--south of the Yukon) I was shorted 1 1/2 cord this Year. @@bigbigby4657
So... sitting here, Sunday morning, making out bills to be mailed tomorrow. Happen to check my phone... Oh, another video from the Morgans. The bills can wait...time for a break anyway😊 Again, good and useful information. Thanks, Mike.
Mike, in my area, not many folks selling fire wood are delivering in a truck like yours. Generally speaking, it would be an old 3/4 or one ton with an eight foot bed and side panels. A guy down the road from my place delivers with a dump bed trailer and you get 7'4" logs totaling 1.3 cord once you cut and stack. Not too bad.
This is a good and helpful video. I am in the Sierra Nevada mountains of rural California. Practically everyone here knows what a real cord is, and most of the truck purchases around here are of long bed, 3/4 ton trucks, whether it is the Ford F250, or another brand. I got the long (8') bed on purpose because I haul wood for family and sometimes sell or barter firewood. My most recent customer, a lady, knew they wanted 16" firewood. It's nice when people know what they are talking about. For other viewers here let me reiterate something. As Mike said, a cord is 128 cubic feet. You can stack or pile it any way you like. But think of it as equaling 4x4x8 feet. And that is what I use to show a cord in my pickup truck. And yes I do have high sides on my truck for that purpose. For our metric friends, I am told by Canadian forestry officials that firewood may be sold by the "stere", which is a cubic metre, a little larger than our half cord. Because firewood that is cut and split does not stack like bricks, my State, California, recognizes a 15% actual loss in that stacked cord. You may wish to find out what that allowance is in your area. Mark Twain wrote humorously about cheating firewood sellers. He indicated that their loose stacks of firewood had holes big enough to throw a dog through.
I searched online for the details and found so many mixed results that I needed to find out for myself. Using a 10' pallet as my base and then 4' pallets on the end I constructed a cage which I filled to give me a true cord or firewood, Once I was completed with filling the cage I stacked a face cord in my truck bed (2003 2500HD Silverado with a 6.5' bed) and I took a photo, then again with the truck bed stacked flush with the rails and finally with a half cord. In order to get a half cord SAFELY stacked I had to build some rails to ensure that any firewood would not fall out when I delivered it. All my customers received a photo after I filled my truck bed too so they knew they were getting their monies worth. For just starting out this year selling firewood I made some returning customers next year just because they liked how I was providing them with true details on what they were getting. I just wish I had more firewood because I the customer's neighbors wanted to buy from me too! The 5 1/2 cords I sold this year went to buy the MS441-C, the firewood I sell next year will go towards getting a fireplace insert installed in the living room. Oh the weight issue, even on my 2500HD my leaf springs were pretty straight!! Keep an eye out on the springs when you load up!! Thanks for sharing Mike. Hope the power is returned shortly for everyone.
@@BigGary79 That is the idea! I hope next year is better and my farm side business takes off. When we first moved to Missouri last year I bought a full cord of Oak for $250 and when they delivered and dumped it I told them that does not look like a full cord. They swore it was. So I gave them the benefit of the doubt and I went to stacking it on a pallet that was 3" shy of 8'. When I got everything stacked it was a little over a half cord. I was pissed. After trying to correct the discrepancy with the seller they said no. So I vowed never to get screwed again and started getting my own firewood. Every time I stacked for a customer I keep reminding myself to never be like the seller that sold me my shorted cord.
Flatus Antiquitous exactly! The couple I bought from, I told them to give me what was owed to me to correct the stack or give me $40 back. Very frustrating. After not getting anywhere I figured screw it, maybe they need the money more than I do.
@Flatus Antiquitous Luckily for me the five full cords were a delivery and the half cord was picked up here at my farm. I need to invest in a dump trailer so I am not making two trips.
Its actually called a midbed, in the ford.com options. 6'5" or just under. My uncle loaded his pickup with a full chord, for personal use. His bed was 8', stacked high with side boards. I think a 3/4 ton and still overloaded a tad. When i do dump runs in the 2002 f150 extended cab, with midbed it dont hold much junk. We put medium size boxes, approximately 2'x3' and about a dozen of them full of stacked paper. Over the top, 40 gallon bags of trash, app. 6 or 8 and i was full, heaped
great to see you talk about this... 128 cft is 4'x4'x8' of wood... so if your getting it by the truck an 8' bed stacked over the side you'd need two loads (approx)
I use my 8' X 5' trailer for hauling firewood, with 24" high sideboards, it takes 2 trips for me to safely haul 1 full cord...The trailer is a tilt bed so the axel is a little farther forward, so I have to taper it off to the back so it will stay properly balanced most of the weight to the front, ...and not start fishtailing on me. I had that happen 4 years ago, and now I have another car sense the Jeep I had ended up in the junkyard after the crash .....So far this season I have hauled 2 full cords and looking for 2 more before fall ...
I got a cord in a 99 f250 long bed. I built 18 inch side boards. I stacked most of it and tossed the rest on top. It hauled it well. I took 2 cords a week to a campground for 2 summers.
I fit a full cord in my pickup with 6.5 foot bed. It has to be dry oak, 10 ply tires and heavy duty shocks on half ton. The high sides is necessary. The measurements when I was done was 5 feet high above the cab, 4 feet wide and 6.5 feet long wich is 130 cubic feet over a cord. Absolutly able to be done but the must haves of the 10 ply tires, heavy duty shocks, high sides to get above cab and dry wood must be done or it gets realy scary😂 ill have to do a video so this can be put to rest easily by sharing of the video. Ive done 8 loads in two weeks with no issues. Even with all the above in place it sags the back end pretty good but for me its definatly not beiyond my comfort zone.
Here in Arkansas the only legal measure for selling wood is a cord I am told. However a lot of people sell wood by the rick, a half cord, or by the load and get by with it. I knew before you started you would never get a cord in a 6 1/2 ft box. I have hauled lots of wood and knew the answer. In my F150 hauling green wood about a half cord is all I am comfortable hauling because of the weight. And at 65 years old a pickup load cut and loaded in the truck is about my daily limit to get to the house with. LOL
Mike, be careful throwing wood in the truck. I sold firewood and I was throwing it in carefully but a stick bounced and broke the window. Just a helpful reminder. Could put a small thickness plywood piece to protect your window while loading.
Been there done that, my Dad trusted me and my sister (2 teenage girls at the time) with the task of loading up a pickup truck. One of us threw a log straight thru the back window 😂. He went Plexiglas after that with no problems.
It is possible in an 8-ft bed with side panels but it's a heavy load for a half ton. I wouldn't recommend driving on the road but it's doable around the property.
We have black/white oak, madrone, chinkapin, and eucalyptus for our main hardwoods over here on the west coast.....pinewood is for backyard fires and outdoor fire pits. You don't burn that crap to heat your home, at least not here on the west coast. You generally don't even waste your time cutting any kind of pinewood for home heating purposes.
These 2 videos are just fine . You have to make do with what you got . Any kind of video from " Outdoors With The Morgans " is better than none . Some fellows deliver the wood with it just being thrown in the truck . Not even near the amount of wood that you have neatly stacked in your truck. It would be interesting to see the remaining cord in your truck to see exactly how much of truck bed a full cord will take up when adding up the 2 truck loads .
New subscriber here, saw a couple of your videos in the suggestion boxes. This is the third video I've watched and I had to sub, I like your attitude and your no nonsense videos. Merry Christmas to you and your family, and I look forward to watching more of your videos.
Had a chevy stepside 4x8 inside the bed put up 2 4x8 plywood sides and 4x4 at front of bed one full cord stacked about 2/3 or 2 face cords just thrown in iunstacked a regular p/u bed no added sides is 1/3 one face cord
The firewood business sneaks in under the name of "Face Cord" to mean one side or face of a cord. A real cord as we all know is a tight stack 4 x 4 x 8 which is quantity of three 16" each wide. Love it that you guys are an above board business. Hey you know if people want to buy a face cord then that is fine, you just have to price it accordingly. You still need to do the drop off delivery, and it always is cheaper by the dozen. :-)
Thank you for the post. Informative for sure. So I found a local guy on c.l who's advertising for seasoned hard wood. Does three cords of wood for $600.00 with free delivery sound right you?
A small pickup bed loaded to the top is about 1/3rd. Piled up good is about 1/2. A medium pickup bed loaded to the top is about 1/2. Piled up good is about 2/3. A full length (8ft) bed loaded to the top is about 2/3. Piled up pretty good can just about fit 1 cord. So... if someone delivers an 8ft pickup bed piled up generously and packed pretty tight, that's an honest enough cord for most buyers and sellers.
@Outdoors With The Morgans holy cow! you guys are from Evans City? Mars High here, born and raised. Wondering if I might even know you guys. Got 40 acres up in Middlesex, all wooded. Ever need a hand with something..give me a shout!
Mike you need to invest into a generator LPfed there are many out there Genetic is what we have set it for get it ours is a 35K you can never have enough when it kicks on we dont even hear it its about 150 foot from the house we built a structure around it so it looks like a pump house blends right in to the property, but you dont have to wait for power to come back on when the power goes out look into it you might be surprised.
Thanks. Had a guy trying to tell me I needed to bring him 3 pickup truck loads for a full cord. I have the same truck and bed size as you. I do 2 loads and I stack it tight and just over flush. Guys a friend of the family and I'm already giving him the wood for 150 a cord delivered.
1 cord of wood is 128cuft. In a 6.5' x 5' bed (wheel wells not withstanding), you'd have to stack it approximately 4' high (at full length/width) to hit 128cuft. With some rails added to the bed, it could be done. However, you run the risk of putting wood through the back window without a headache rack, and (depending on the species of wood and moisture content), you'll be over GVWR in most 1/2T trucks - especially when you add in the combined weight of persons and gear.
You could put a stylish headacke rack on the back of the truck to protect your back window, there are many kinds out there I like the stainless steel wirh the louvered
Mike I know for a fact that an 8 foot bed on a Ford can hold a half cord. We have done it f250. God bless. Also just to let you know ford will not make a truck with a quad cab and 8 foot bed smaller than a f250.
I see alot of people get cheated by people saying they are selling you a cord of firewood and show up with a truck like yours. I guess the lesson to be learned is use common sense and know what your buying when I buy wood I buy by the pickup load and I ask what size bed and if its stacked in or thrown in then we will talk about the price of the wood
Yep... I have argued with forest guys who think a cord is stacked a foot above the bed rail in my 97 f 350 with an 8' bed. I stack mine above the cab... 👍👍
Funny you mention buying gravel and sand by weight. I always wonder when I buy fill by weight if I'm paying for a lot of water if it's been rainy weather, or conversely, if the weather has been dry, if I should by then, because especially with loam or clay there's a real difference in usable volume. Purchasing firewood by weight would incentive green wood sales. If I remember correctly Red Oak can be over 100 percent water by dry matter weight.
You may not consider the last two videos important; but I certainly do. If nothing else you just proved our lives can move forward despite what life throws at you. No power. Proved you slept better than ever a may not be a bad thing. No water you proved that their was other places to find water while remedy your lack there of. I have 4 Women at home and they like lots of hot water. I understand your concern for making that water well and hot water heater independent of an electrical grid. Your sanity might be dependent on it. Keep up the great work
In Australia we sell either by the tonne or the cubic metre which is 35.3 cubic feet. Weight is preferred but if you don't have scales, volume. The pick--up is 59cf to the bed rails. Two loads to full cord. Hope you get power soon, I would seriously consider a self contained solar set up if I lived there. Sounds like the power goes down a lot by the sound of things. 59 cf is 1.67m3 so with my old F100 I could safely and honestly deliver 1m3 but I don't anymore.
Before I even watch this film I am trying to work it out. A full cord is 3.6 cubic metres of wood or about 3.5 cubic yards. That's a lot of wood so I think it won't fit without side boards or straps. Here in France and I think generally across Europe these volumes are measured in one metre lengths, thus if you cut it to half metre lengths before delivery, the customer would actually get less wood because of course some is lost in cutting. BTW for those in the US a metre is 39 inches.
2. 4x8 piles would be 2/3 cord or 66% yet you stated .65 cord loaded. Still have approximate 1 foot high pile left on ground. So actually truck is loaded with approximately. 58 cord
6 foot bed and a trailer full is a full cord if you just throw it in not stacked in my set up. I'm wondering how much a cord is if you buy it prepackaged at the grocery store. I saw small bundles for $4.15 today. My guess is $350 a cord.
A pulp wood cord or full cord is 4'x4'x8' a face cord is 4'x8'x16" in an 8' pickup box you can toss in one face cord that will be level with the box, there are three face cord in a full cord we always throw in some extra peace to make sure there's no complaints
i used to haul a cord of wood (4x4x8) in an 82 chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 longbed, it had stock height bed sides with extra wooden walls built(2x4 construction) to make up height i needed.
Not sure about how much firewood I can fit in my truck, but this past summer I had 1.85 tons of white stone in my F350 and she rode nice and level. I was very happy.
I sell by the cord and i have an f150 with 5 1/2 box with side racks it take 3 full rows just a touch over cab height with the area around the tailgate filled up as well to haul a true half cord. I haul doug fir, hemlock, spruce, alder and maple.
Yeah typically most people can for around a 1/2 to 2/3 a cord in a 6 ft bed and around 2/3 to 3/4 a cord in a 8 ft bed, provided both are stacked up just over the top of the bedsides. People call it a full cord, when it's not. I have a firewood shed that is 16 ft long, and 8 ft high, if the pieces are 24 inches in length, you can get two cords on a wall stacked to the roof with one stack. I have marks at 4 ft high which would be 1 cord. Most the time we have 18 inch long pieces which would be 6 ft high for a cord. 16 ft long 6 ft high 18 inch pieces equals a cord.
All though not a official measure in Maine, We often use a 'thrown Cord= 175-180 cubic feet, when selling bulk loaded wood. This will give you a good 128 cu.Ft stacked...A honest measure will always have a repeat customer.
Around here unfortunately 80% of the wood sellers rip people off. Cord of wood mix or hard and soft,be they Elm and Pine run $300-$375 dropped and not stacked.
For a first time wood buyer like myself this is extremly helpful. I bought my first face cord a few weeks back and got ripped off. Seller said it was seasoned for 3 to 4 years and it was all Oak and Ash. WRONG! What I got was unseasoned WET Walnut and very little Oak with 1/4 of the face cord being unsplit branches several stumps and 22 to 28 inch long pieces that don't even fit in my fireplace. At the cost of $75.00. I have been watching your videos along with some research and have learned a lot about firewood. I have a fireplace in a modular home and wanted to use it to provide some heat to offset my gas bill. Well so far I have spent another $50.00 buying wood from the gas station to get a good fire going then putting in some of the wood this guy sold me and listening to it sizzle and watching the sap and water run out of it. Now I'm scared about buying another load. Thanks for the videos.
I've got a 1992 Chevy 1/2 ton W/T 1500 4.3L with a 5 speed transmission that my wife and I used to haul one cord loads with every day 6 days a week out in Centralia Washington. I had sideboards level to the cab that tied into a headache rack, air shocks in the rear and 8 ply tires all around. You can haul a full cord of wood like that safely no problems. It was rounded just a bit at the top and a few pieces at the tailgate. I always took it nice and easy out of the woods and did the speed limit. One guy we hauled wood to (a retired state trooper) couldn't believe it until we stacked it in his woodshed. he was so pleased he had finally met an honest firewood cutter he ordered 5 more loads. I would always hear the same thing from folks out there. "I ordered a cord but they only brought me rank and charged me for a cord" or "I ordered a rank and they brought me a pickup load that was thrown in and it didn't even come to 2/3rds of a rank". Folks there are a lot of bums that are only looking for a fast buck and could care less if they get your business again. My advice for what its worth. Ask around in your friends and neighbors that burn wood who they get their would from and if the person does firewood for a living or just a side hustle and are they honest. Not saying that all side hustle fire wood guys are bad but most are. Find one that does wood for his main bread and butter and you'll be better off in the long run. And don't be stingy, flip your cutter at least a $10 or $20 dollar tip. Cutting, splitting and hauling firewood isn't easy work and it cost money. If it was easy you would be getting your own. So be kind and take care of those who are taking care of you. The Little Red Wood Wagon
When I younger a teen, a friend and I used to cut and deliver firewood using an old Army 2-1/2 ton truck. Using the sideboards, we could barely get 3 honestly measured cords in the 8' (wide) x 12' long bed. At that time, we got $50/cord delivered and stacked. Definitely an all day job, especially if the customer made you unload by the street and carry it around to stack. Didn't take us long to see that it wasn't really a viable career option for us; especially considering that we had to drive about 50 miles each way to cut the wood, take it home to hand split, load it into the truck and deliver. Gave me a real appreciation for the old saying that "Firewood will hear you up 4 times-" once for cutting, once for splitting, once for delivery, and finally for stacking. I, for one, am just glad that diesel was only about 17 cents a gallon back then.
as a teen, how did you get the army truck?
@@timj5413 , I had a driver's license at 15, and paid cash for the truck at 16. Things were a bit more lax in the early 70s.
@@chuckpreston4981 sounds like you have a good appreciation for hard work. I'm a teen myself and bought a silverado in cash within the last year. One of the many things I do is sell firewood. It would be pretty nice to have a military truck, though. haha
@@timj5413 it's great until you figure in the cost of fuel at 6 mpg (downhill with a hurricane force tailwind...lol), the cost of maintaining the truck, cost of insurance as a commercial vehicle, and the cost of licensing. Add to that the hassle of needing a CDL and medical certification since it has dual driving axles... not really worth it anymore.
Chuck Preston wow that does sound like a lot. I like the basic idea though. It makes my current truck look like a Prius
This visual demonstration is very helpful for those of us new to buying wood. Just moved to Maine and your videos have been very helpful as a wood stove is my primary heat - and I love it. Many thanks!
Find yourself a used F350 dually,pre 2003 with the old 7.3 Powerstroke and 8' bed. You'll get a full cord in there and,the 7.3 is plenty powerful and,bulletproof to boot. Wish i still had mine.
Trucks rated for 2,000lbs hope you like overweight fines a cord weight about 5,000lbs
There is nothing wrong with the short not editing videos. Many people new at buying firewood have no clue of how much wood is in a cord. I think when we got our first fireplace we bought wood and they brought it out in a pick up. Doubt if it was as much as they said it was. Hope they your power back on soon.
I’m really enjoying these raw unedited videos. I think it’s because it’s so REAL. There’s no plan, and no script. Your just rolling with punches, and making the best of an unfortunate situation. Hopefully the power is restored soon.
Im glad u done this video. I have picked up alot of Buisness becausr i deliver an actual cord of wood and people realize they have been screwed in the past. I always tell people that it take 2 loads or 2 trips to deliver a cord in a Truck. Mostly i stack it on a trailer and deliver a full cord and they are surprised at the amout of wood it usually is. Great Video.
We've hauled a number of pickup truck loads of firewood for the "Woodbank" program in our town (donates firewood to families in need during the heating season). For a truck bed like yours, we've generally found the numbers to run right around 1/3 cord thrown in, and 1/2 cord stacked (We don't stack quite as high as you did, since we don't want to risk losing pieces in the road or getting pulled over for an unsafe load - the local police generally don't like to see the wood piled up above the side rails, unless you cover and strap it down, but we can get away with maybe 4-6" above without raising too many eyebrows.)
For a smaller truck, like my Tacoma, we figure on about 1/4 cord thrown in, and maybe up to 1/3 (or a bit shy of that) when stacked.
No problem with these videos...I myself are "simple and quick", so I'm not offended. Thanks for your work giving us good stuff to watch.
Mike, regarding those cages you've been using for the 1/3 cord. I used to work for a precast concrete manufacturer and our form release oil came in those tote's. It's a vegetable oil and non-toxic. We always gave away those used totes to the plant laborers. They would sell them on Craigs List. If you know anyone at a precast concrete facility, you might be able to get the cages for free or cheap.
Thank you for this video. I'm new to buying firewood for my firepit, so this is extremely helpful. The load I just got was half a cord and when stacked is about 8ft x 3 x 4. Price was $150
Sounds like you got a decent deal. A full cord measures 4x4x8
I Hope your smiling, Thomas, You did well.
In talking to someone that does not use firewood claiming a cord of wood will fit in his pickup. I usually say how tall are your sides. No matter their reply I then say do you know how much wood it takes to make a cord and how much it weighs. They most often do not know. I then tell them that a full cord of wood is 4X4X8 feet. In order to fit a cord into a pickup it must be stacked well above the cab but then it would be way over weight and into the dangerous category. I know because I once hauled a ton of wood pellets in my half ton and will not do that again.
Ya well a cord of green wood weighs about 5,000lbs... pretty sure a 1/2 ton pickup rated for 1,000lbs clearly isn't up to the task unless you wanna pop the leaf spring shackles and send the spring through the bed lol... but hey keep DOT busy
Nope, dont even have to watch, a full size pickup, neatly stacked, 1/2 cord, heaped up perhaps a bit more, 3/5th? No way they fit a full cord unless killing them springs.
The pickup i have can hold a cord, actually probably a little bit more but i never try and load it 100 percent
I put a cord of firewood in a 1998 Dodge Ram 1500 8ft bed. I did it to just prove a point. It was stacked almost over the cab of the truck. I only drove it from my stack to the house through the yard very slow. No way would I been able to drive down the road with it. I have a picture of it have to try and find it. It must be a PA thing everyone claims they can get a cord of wood in a pickup load.
The video seems fine I enjoyed it I used to be able to haul a cord of firewood but I had a 3/4 ton pickup with an 8-foot bed and a topper shell on there but it was one heck of a load for a pickup
"Simple and quick" video, nothing wrong with it pal. I actually quite enjoyed it. Sometimes less is more! Thanks very informative
Mike I dislike having to call you out on the "Long Bed" description of your truck. I hate what the automotive industry has done to redefine bed lengths from what they were 20 years ago. 8' is a long bed. Yours is now called a standard bed and less than 6' is called a short bed.
I prefer the old system that referred to 8' beds as standard or long bed, 6.5' as short beds and anything less than 6' as a golf cart.
Like you I've been in construction all my life. Because of that I have used my trucks daily. Always 8' beds. If they made a 10' bed I'd trade my truck in so fast the dirt couldn't keep up with it. So many construction supplies are in 10' and being able to put those things in the bed, slam the tailgate and go would have saved me 100s of hours in securing crap to the ladder rack.
Now 10' would be a long bed but would not have been a long vehicle had they made an Econoline (van) cab with a pickup bed.
Thanks for allowing me to vent!
Happy holidays to you and yours.
VTY, Scott McCarter
In Summer 2018, I needed to replace my F-250, 8 ft bed. I opted to look at 1/2T - no 3/4T in standard cab models. I was going to buy an F-150, but discovered the "8 ft bed" is not 96", rather is 89". This means one cannot haul an 8ft piece of ply wood, or 8ft 2X4s, with endgate up. I ended with a Chev Silverado, 8 ft bed, standard cab. The bed is a full 96". My point is that "8 ft bed" is not always 96". This is misleading - to underscore you concern about "descriptions." I just assumed 8ft bed meant 8 ft bed - not so! I think so many buyers of F-150 are hobby consumers, or just needing a personal vehicle, and really do not care about dimensions. For those of us who want a full 96", beware.
At the beginning of the video he says that. He says he got the longer bed 6.5’ but not the long 8’. We all know there is a 5.5, 6.5 and 8’ beds available. 6.5 certainly is longer than 5.5. So what are you calling him out on?
@@supporterofsanity Thank you very much. I misheard him. Sorry Mike, I've been corrected. Mike did say he got the longer of the two short beds. Appreciate having that pointed out. Have a great Thanksgiving.
Sorry I apologise for not listening well enough. Mike said his truck has the longer (of the two short beds). I should have know that he wouldn't mess up when talking about trucks.
Hi Scott!
Are you saying that we can no longer order extra long beds for a pickup? All I know is, at one time you would see them now and then. My guess is they were 10' beds. To me the down side is that the ones I saw were all step-side models. I prefer full width.
In this place I will tell a short story. My late wife was British. When we happened to be behind a dually with fender extensions, she would always say, "Look that truck has big hips."
Super helpful as I am new to wood buying. Thanks!!
Just posted a video on my channel saying that I was going to go to a little more of a "run & gun" style. I haven't become really proficient with my editing work flow and it is a huge bottle neck at the moment because I tend to try to make them perfect before posting them...going to try a few other styles of filming and editing to really find what I like to do.
Excellent mike!!! Neatly stacked
4ft×4ft×8ft= 1 cord= 128sqft
Ford 150
6.5ft×5ft×21in (1.75ft)= 56.8sqft
(56.8sqft×100%)÷128sqft=44%
Needless to say less than a half a cord in a ford 150 level to side rails.
Your videos are still great Mike. Hate that you are going thru this but you are prepared for these things. Sure glad you didn’t get any wind with all the ice on the trees it sure wrecks the woods. Keep safe and sorry about the double comments on this video, got carried away and whoosh the first one was gone. Thanks for sharing.
I admire honesty, thank you for posting this vid, and perhaps save a few people form getting ripped off the second time
I used to cut wood on my parent’s farm and take it home to my house. One time I loaded up my 8 foot bed truck with green oak, ash and a little hackberry tight and above the bed about like yours. All I can say is thank goodness for 4wd as I was a little “floaty” in front on the way home. Never repeated the stunt.
You had the wood stacked like a dry stone wall great job it looked beautiful 👍
4'x4'x8' been that way for ever.
If you cut and split that 4.X4'X4' it sill come around 93+/- sq.ft.
128 cubic feet is a cord, not necessarily 8x4x4
@@899jj gotta do it in cubic feet.
@@michaelhefford6420 its the industry standard,but as long as you get the correct cubic ft,you can stack it anyway you like.
Great video with some good, real world information. I need to get some gravel and I'm already worried I'm going to get shorted. I wouldn't have a clue if I ordered 10 tons and only get 7.
Hope they get you guys back up soon.
Ask for cubic yards and see what they say.
An 8 foot bed can hold a full cord if you know how to stack it. I do it all the time. Suspension/tires are going to be the weak links. I just hauled 4 face cord home with my factory 8 ft bed yesterday. It was stacked a little taller than the cab. I normally carry at least a full cord. A load of wet oak weighs around 6,000 lbs.
And I now realize I have been ripped iff for the last 5 years......
So here in northern Ontario where I am they sell 1/2 ton loads as a single .So most people buy wood as noted singles usually 10 to 12 singles . If you buy it by the truck load ( log truck ) these come as full logs and you would get 18 to 20 singles , Just have to watch it's not 1/2 load season . I like your bush lot you have done lots of under brush clearing . I hope to do the same 100 acre wood lot . nice video
I love to see your wife work she reminds me of a lady that use to work with me I work for a man and he word at night so he had me to run his hen farm and cow farm and we had to cut fire wood for winter she was a very hard worker too they were great friends too I miss doing that kind of work and may y'all have happy happy merry merry and a happy happy I hope you get that for the 3 Holliday's comeing up. God bless yall for now.
Hey Mike. Glad you did this. Here in Louisiana, we buy by the “rick” which is 1/2 a cord. So I’m glad to see how much actually fits in 6.5’ bed. Thanks 👍👍
Glad you posted this, here in Tn. folks most often sell/buy a "rick" of fire wood and it's most often just an 8ft bed full front/back/side/side with a full hump risen in the middle of the bed. I never fully knew just how much it actually was, but is sounds about 2/3 a cord.
Yes, I have put 2/3 cord or 2 face (at 16" long) in many 8 foot truck beds, over the years. I got ripped off twice this year, Because I can't judge a 6x12 dump trailer (LOAD) DON'T (unless You are buying from Mr. Morgan) try to find wood after November. cuz the reputable sellers are sold out, witch opens the doors for lairs .Check out my latest rant. Not considering 10 inch length, Rot, Pine, Aspen (they are not fire wood--south of the Yukon) I was shorted 1 1/2 cord this Year. @@bigbigby4657
Cripps A Rick is 1/3 of a cord
So... sitting here, Sunday morning, making out bills to be mailed tomorrow. Happen to check my phone... Oh, another video from the Morgans. The bills can wait...time for a break anyway😊
Again, good and useful information. Thanks, Mike.
Very good video Mike!! I would not have known that a truck that size could not hold a full cord. Thank you for the great videos!! 😊
This video is for people like me. Thank you!
Thank you for being such an honest person. Can't get that where I live.
Mike, in my area, not many folks selling fire wood are delivering in a truck like yours. Generally speaking, it would be an old 3/4 or one ton with an eight foot bed and side panels. A guy down the road from my place delivers with a dump bed trailer and you get 7'4" logs totaling 1.3 cord once you cut and stack. Not too bad.
This is a good and helpful video.
I am in the Sierra Nevada mountains of rural California. Practically everyone here knows what a real cord is, and most of the truck purchases around here are of long bed, 3/4 ton trucks, whether it is the Ford F250, or another brand. I got the long (8') bed on purpose because I haul wood for family and sometimes sell or barter firewood. My most recent customer, a lady, knew they wanted 16" firewood. It's nice when people know what they are talking about.
For other viewers here let me reiterate something. As Mike said, a cord is 128 cubic feet. You can stack or pile it any way you like. But think of it as equaling 4x4x8 feet. And that is what I use to show a cord in my pickup truck. And yes I do have high sides on my truck for that purpose.
For our metric friends, I am told by Canadian forestry officials that firewood may be sold by the "stere", which is a cubic metre, a little larger than our half cord.
Because firewood that is cut and split does not stack like bricks, my State, California, recognizes a 15% actual loss in that stacked cord. You may wish to find out what that allowance is in your area.
Mark Twain wrote humorously about cheating firewood sellers. He indicated that their loose stacks of firewood had holes big enough to throw a dog through.
Yes, you can fit in the truck just stack it up high, use cargo net to hold it in place 👍
Thanks for being honest. I appreciate you. I am a fellow Pennsyltuckian.
Going rate a cord is $150.00 Canadian in central Newfoundland. Thanks, So a pick up load as you have is $100.00 a load. Awesome video.
I searched online for the details and found so many mixed results that I needed to find out for myself. Using a 10' pallet as my base and then 4' pallets on the end I constructed a cage which I filled to give me a true cord or firewood, Once I was completed with filling the cage I stacked a face cord in my truck bed (2003 2500HD Silverado with a 6.5' bed) and I took a photo, then again with the truck bed stacked flush with the rails and finally with a half cord. In order to get a half cord SAFELY stacked I had to build some rails to ensure that any firewood would not fall out when I delivered it. All my customers received a photo after I filled my truck bed too so they knew they were getting their monies worth. For just starting out this year selling firewood I made some returning customers next year just because they liked how I was providing them with true details on what they were getting. I just wish I had more firewood because I the customer's neighbors wanted to buy from me too! The 5 1/2 cords I sold this year went to buy the MS441-C, the firewood I sell next year will go towards getting a fireplace insert installed in the living room. Oh the weight issue, even on my 2500HD my leaf springs were pretty straight!! Keep an eye out on the springs when you load up!! Thanks for sharing Mike. Hope the power is returned shortly for everyone.
That's some great customer service.
@@BigGary79 That is the idea! I hope next year is better and my farm side business takes off. When we first moved to Missouri last year I bought a full cord of Oak for $250 and when they delivered and dumped it I told them that does not look like a full cord. They swore it was. So I gave them the benefit of the doubt and I went to stacking it on a pallet that was 3" shy of 8'. When I got everything stacked it was a little over a half cord. I was pissed. After trying to correct the discrepancy with the seller they said no. So I vowed never to get screwed again and started getting my own firewood. Every time I stacked for a customer I keep reminding myself to never be like the seller that sold me my shorted cord.
Flatus Antiquitous exactly! The couple I bought from, I told them to give me what was owed to me to correct the stack or give me $40 back. Very frustrating. After not getting anywhere I figured screw it, maybe they need the money more than I do.
@Phil Perri For a half cord I charged $90. Delivery, unloading and/or stacking had additional fees.
@Flatus Antiquitous Luckily for me the five full cords were a delivery and the half cord was picked up here at my farm. I need to invest in a dump trailer so I am not making two trips.
Its actually called a midbed, in the ford.com options. 6'5" or just under. My uncle loaded his pickup with a full chord, for personal use. His bed was 8', stacked high with side boards. I think a 3/4 ton and still overloaded a tad. When i do dump runs in the 2002 f150 extended cab, with midbed it dont hold much junk. We put medium size boxes, approximately 2'x3' and about a dozen of them full of stacked paper. Over the top, 40 gallon bags of trash, app. 6 or 8 and i was full, heaped
great to see you talk about this... 128 cft is 4'x4'x8' of wood... so if your getting it by the truck an 8' bed stacked over the side you'd need two loads (approx)
I use my 8' X 5' trailer for hauling firewood, with 24" high sideboards, it takes 2 trips for me to safely haul 1 full cord...The trailer is a tilt bed so the axel is a little farther forward, so I have to taper it off to the back so it will stay properly balanced most of the weight to the front, ...and not start fishtailing on me. I had that happen 4 years ago, and now I have another car sense the Jeep I had ended up in the junkyard after the crash .....So far this season I have hauled 2 full cords and looking for 2 more before fall ...
I got a cord in a 99 f250 long bed. I built 18 inch side boards. I stacked most of it and tossed the rest on top. It hauled it well. I took 2 cords a week to a campground for 2 summers.
Awesome information!!👍👊
I fit a full cord in my pickup with 6.5 foot bed. It has to be dry oak, 10 ply tires and heavy duty shocks on half ton. The high sides is necessary. The measurements when I was done was 5 feet high above the cab, 4 feet wide and 6.5 feet long wich is 130 cubic feet over a cord. Absolutly able to be done but the must haves of the 10 ply tires, heavy duty shocks, high sides to get above cab and dry wood must be done or it gets realy scary😂 ill have to do a video so this can be put to rest easily by sharing of the video. Ive done 8 loads in two weeks with no issues. Even with all the above in place it sags the back end pretty good but for me its definatly not beiyond my comfort zone.
Hope they get the power back on tonight for you folks. Take a lesson from Hunter and enjoy the quiet time ;-)
Here in Arkansas the only legal measure for selling wood is a cord I am told. However a lot of people sell wood by the rick, a half cord, or by the load and get by with it.
I knew before you started you would never get a cord in a 6 1/2 ft box. I have hauled lots of wood and knew the answer. In my F150 hauling green wood about a half cord is all I am comfortable hauling because of the weight. And at 65 years old a pickup load cut and loaded in the truck is about my daily limit to get to the house with. LOL
I kinda like these "off grid" videos
Mike, be careful throwing wood in the truck. I sold firewood and I was throwing it in carefully but a stick bounced and broke the window. Just a helpful reminder. Could put a small thickness plywood piece to protect your window while loading.
Scrap hauler here. Replaced the rear window with polycarbonate a LONG time ago!
100% Wendell, Bin there done that , on a Buddys truck,,,,,,,Opps
Been there done that, my Dad trusted me and my sister (2 teenage girls at the time) with the task of loading up a pickup truck. One of us threw a log straight thru the back window 😂. He went Plexiglas after that with no problems.
Nice video thanks
It is possible in an 8-ft bed with side panels but it's a heavy load for a half ton. I wouldn't recommend driving on the road but it's doable around the property.
Thank you for doing true informative videos this one is one that I will recommend for my future costumers and all of my business friends
We have black/white oak, madrone, chinkapin, and eucalyptus for our main hardwoods over here on the west coast.....pinewood is for backyard fires and outdoor fire pits. You don't burn that crap to heat your home, at least not here on the west coast. You generally don't even waste your time cutting any kind of pinewood for home heating purposes.
These 2 videos are just fine . You have to make do with what you got . Any kind of video from " Outdoors With The Morgans " is better than none . Some fellows deliver the wood with it just being thrown in the truck . Not even near the amount of wood that you have neatly stacked in your truck. It would be interesting to see the remaining cord in your truck to see exactly how much of truck bed a full cord will take up when adding up the 2 truck loads .
New subscriber here, saw a couple of your videos in the suggestion boxes. This is the third video I've watched and I had to sub, I like your attitude and your no nonsense videos. Merry Christmas to you and your family, and I look forward to watching more of your videos.
a full cord weighs at least 4000 pounds, thats just too heavy for a f150 to haul. but you could easily tow a cord on a trailer with it
Had a chevy stepside 4x8 inside the bed put up 2 4x8 plywood sides and 4x4 at front of bed one full cord stacked about 2/3 or 2 face cords just thrown in iunstacked a regular p/u bed no added sides is 1/3 one face cord
The firewood business sneaks in under the name of "Face Cord" to mean one side or face of a cord. A real cord as we all know is a tight stack 4 x 4 x 8 which is quantity of three 16" each wide. Love it that you guys are an above board business. Hey you know if people want to buy a face cord then that is fine, you just have to price it accordingly. You still need to do the drop off delivery, and it always is cheaper by the dozen. :-)
your right Mike 4h 4' wide 4' high 8'long
Thank you for the post. Informative for sure. So I found a local guy on c.l who's advertising for seasoned hard wood. Does three cords of wood for $600.00 with free delivery sound right you?
A small pickup bed loaded to the top is about 1/3rd. Piled up good is about 1/2.
A medium pickup bed loaded to the top is about 1/2. Piled up good is about 2/3.
A full length (8ft) bed loaded to the top is about 2/3. Piled up pretty good can just about fit 1 cord.
So... if someone delivers an 8ft pickup bed piled up generously and packed pretty tight, that's an honest enough cord for most buyers and sellers.
I hear yah, we just have to be careful on who we deal with I guess, but it happens way more often then not .
I have been doing firewood since 1970, it takes an 8FT. bed an one heavy duty pickup to haul a FULL cord of firewood.
@Outdoors With The Morgans holy cow! you guys are from Evans City? Mars High here, born and raised. Wondering if I might even know you guys. Got 40 acres up in Middlesex, all wooded. Ever need a hand with something..give me a shout!
Mike you need to invest into a generator LPfed there are many out there Genetic is what we have set it for get it ours is a 35K you can never have enough when it kicks on we dont even hear it its about 150 foot from the house we built a structure around it so it looks like a pump house blends right in to the property, but you dont have to wait for power to come back on when the power goes out look into it you might be surprised.
I built side walls on my F-350. Gives me the capacity of 1.5 cord & wow is weight a factor! Gonna install air bag suspension to compensate.
Thanks. Had a guy trying to tell me I needed to bring him 3 pickup truck loads for a full cord. I have the same truck and bed size as you. I do 2 loads and I stack it tight and just over flush. Guys a friend of the family and I'm already giving him the wood for 150 a cord delivered.
1 cord of wood is 128cuft. In a 6.5' x 5' bed (wheel wells not withstanding), you'd have to stack it approximately 4' high (at full length/width) to hit 128cuft. With some rails added to the bed, it could be done. However, you run the risk of putting wood through the back window without a headache rack, and (depending on the species of wood and moisture content), you'll be over GVWR in most 1/2T trucks - especially when you add in the combined weight of persons and gear.
That's 128 cubic feet.
@@iveyq3843 Oops, you're right. I knew that!
You could put a stylish headacke rack on the back of the truck to protect your back window, there are many kinds out there I like the stainless steel wirh the louvered
Mike I know for a fact that an 8 foot bed on a Ford can hold a half cord. We have done it f250. God bless. Also just to let you know ford will not make a truck with a quad cab and 8 foot bed smaller than a f250.
I see alot of people get cheated by people saying they are selling you a cord of firewood and show up with a truck like yours. I guess the lesson to be learned is use common sense and know what your buying when I buy wood I buy by the pickup load and I ask what size bed and if its stacked in or thrown in then we will talk about the price of the wood
3/4ton truck
Sideboards
100 % full cord of maple
4000 lbs(approx.)
That's a good mornings work.
Yep... I have argued with forest guys who think a cord is stacked a foot above the bed rail in my 97 f 350 with an 8' bed. I stack mine above the cab... 👍👍
Full size 8ft pickup bed cord is 4-8 . by 3-4 ton Chevy with sides you can haul a cord. Been their done it. East PA.
Funny you mention buying gravel and sand by weight. I always wonder when I buy fill by weight if I'm paying for a lot of water if it's been rainy weather, or conversely, if the weather has been dry, if I should by then, because especially with loam or clay there's a real difference in usable volume. Purchasing firewood by weight would incentive green wood sales. If I remember correctly Red Oak can be over 100 percent water by dry matter weight.
In the area where I live, wood is sold by the rick which is what you call a face cord. Cord is hardly ever mentioned in this area.
You may not consider the last two videos important; but I certainly do.
If nothing else you just proved our lives can move forward despite what life throws at you.
No power. Proved you slept better than ever a may not be a bad thing.
No water you proved that their was other places to find water while remedy your lack there of.
I have 4 Women at home and they like lots of hot water. I understand your concern for making that water well and hot water heater independent of an electrical grid.
Your sanity might be dependent on it.
Keep up the great work
Last couple videos have been great mike
In Australia we sell either by the tonne or the cubic metre which is 35.3 cubic feet. Weight is preferred but if you don't have scales, volume. The pick--up is 59cf to the bed rails. Two loads to full cord. Hope you get power soon, I would seriously consider a self contained solar set up if I lived there. Sounds like the power goes down a lot by the sound of things. 59 cf is 1.67m3 so with my old F100 I could safely and honestly deliver 1m3 but I don't anymore.
I have pics of my half ton Chevy 8' box with a tic over 4,000lbs of oak blocks in back. Wish I cld post the pic. Steering was extremely light
The land owner had given me one last wknd to get as much dead oak as I cld before he started field work so I had to make it a payload!
Before I even watch this film I am trying to work it out. A full cord is 3.6 cubic metres of wood or about 3.5 cubic yards. That's a lot of wood so I think it won't fit without side boards or straps. Here in France and I think generally across Europe these volumes are measured in one metre lengths, thus if you cut it to half metre lengths before delivery, the customer would actually get less wood because of course some is lost in cutting. BTW for those in the US a metre is 39 inches.
Totally understand, not having power throws everything out of sorts. Hopefully it will be back on soon.
Great video! Very cool! How long will a cord last?
Great video! It’s hard not having power.
Great video !! Thanks for the help !
2. 4x8 piles would be 2/3 cord or 66% yet you stated .65 cord loaded. Still have approximate 1 foot high pile left on ground. So actually truck is loaded with approximately. 58 cord
6 foot bed and a trailer full is a full cord if you just throw it in not stacked in my set up. I'm wondering how much a cord is if you buy it prepackaged at the grocery store. I saw small bundles for $4.15 today. My guess is $350 a cord.
Do you have an APU for the house in case of power outages?
A pulp wood cord or full cord is 4'x4'x8' a face cord is 4'x8'x16" in an 8' pickup box you can toss in one face cord that will be level with the box, there are three face cord in a full cord we always throw in some extra peace to make sure there's no complaints
there are 3 face cords in 1 cord of wood. A face cord is 1/3 of a cord.
i used to haul a cord of wood (4x4x8) in an 82 chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 longbed, it had stock height bed sides with extra wooden walls built(2x4 construction) to make up height i needed.
Greatly Appreciated.
Not sure about how much firewood I can fit in my truck, but this past summer I had 1.85 tons of white stone in my F350 and she rode nice and level. I was very happy.
Yea F350 was just getting comfortable with that load!
I sell by the cord and i have an f150 with 5 1/2 box with side racks it take 3 full rows just a touch over cab height with the area around the tailgate filled up as well to haul a true half cord. I haul doug fir, hemlock, spruce, alder and maple.
Yeah typically most people can for around a 1/2 to 2/3 a cord in a 6 ft bed and around 2/3 to 3/4 a cord in a 8 ft bed, provided both are stacked up just over the top of the bedsides. People call it a full cord, when it's not. I have a firewood shed that is 16 ft long, and 8 ft high, if the pieces are 24 inches in length, you can get two cords on a wall stacked to the roof with one stack. I have marks at 4 ft high which would be 1 cord. Most the time we have 18 inch long pieces which would be 6 ft high for a cord. 16 ft long 6 ft high 18 inch pieces equals a cord.
Only if u have an 8ft bed shoot we hauled many loads out on a half ton ford . It would hold 2 ricks of green oak
All though not a official measure in Maine, We often use a 'thrown Cord= 175-180 cubic feet, when selling bulk loaded wood. This will give you a good 128 cu.Ft stacked...A honest measure will always have a repeat customer.
In Oklahoma it is common to sell a “rick”. 2x4x8. A half ton loaded max. A half cord.
Yes, you can fit 1 cord of wood in a 1/2 ton truck, but, that won't do your suspension, etc. any good
Up here, unless you specify a 'bush cord' you're buying a 'face cord'. If they show up with full pickup, you're stoked.
Around here unfortunately 80% of the wood sellers rip people off. Cord of wood mix or hard and soft,be they Elm and Pine run $300-$375 dropped and not stacked.