Building 1X Gravel Bike From Road Bike (2X7 to 1X10 Conversion)
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- I build a 1x10 gravel/cross bike using vintage road bike frame. The drivetrain is a single 36 tooth wide/narrow chainring on the front and a 11-40 tooth cassette on the back. I use a Shimano 105 (5701) rear derailleur and Shimano 5600 brake/shifters (brifters). I also converted the frame to use recessed mounted Tektro R316 brakes. The frame was from a Ross 290S Signature Model with Ishiwata triple butted tubing. The wheels are ALEXRIMS DM18 WHEELSET w/ Shimano HB-RM40 front hub, Shimano FH-RM40-8S rear hub. The finished bike weighed about 25.5lbs.
Solodrive 104BCD Single Chainring For 9/10/11-Speed(Narrow-wide):
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ZTTO MTB Wide Ratio Cassette 10 Speed 11-40t:
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ZTTO Rear Derailleur Hanger Extender:
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CST Cultivator Cycle Cross Tires 700 x 32
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43:18
q how many apples grow on a tree
a all of them
Hey RJ where did you get your grease gun from??
@@vicgravelrides That is a Dualco and you can get them at auto parts stores, hardwares and I got mine at my LBS. They are great.
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Would love to see you ride this one, please consider as this means a lot to us viewers!
In a world where every RUclips video about bikes is presented by someone in £3000 lycra riding gear... You are honestly just the best thing ever. The people's champion. Bike looks great!
Can't forget Trace Velo and his sketchy cheap carbon escapades
@@pepperstmm always respect Detective Trace
@@p504504 "Goddamit Trace you're still investigating that damn chinese crank piece of crap. Next time i see you opening this case again i'll have your badge and i'll put you to a goddamn desk job you hear me?? Now get the hell outta here!"
As a mechanic who is also a road biker and Lycra wearer, I don't really appreciate your comment. Nobody has $3,000 of lycra. Just a dumb comment
@@marktalbott3835 that's what you think my friend, some people do indeed spend hundreds of € to the thousands on lycra. it has been proven that expensive lycra weights 5g less than normal lycra from Decathlon.
Good stuff. I really like that you're not a snob like a lot of these bike guys lol and you're way more informative.
During the last 15 years i've serviced, created and customized literally hundreds of bikes from track bikes all the way to BMX and custom frames, but i was never able to acquire such knowledge as you. Your insight in mechanical perfectness is amazing, i learn from you each time you upload a new build. Thank you.
I don't understand how you could be a bicycle mechanic and customizer for 15 years and not know the techniques that guy is telling us. Weird. Ive been mechanic for 30 years. He's very good but there is nothing surprising here
Lol ive been a mechanic for two years nothing is surprising. You must suck
@@familyengineering5591 rude
@@marktalbott3835 owned lol
@@marktalbott3835 me neither.
i didnt even finish to watch the video but i have to say it... you are a genius! i love they way you work and the solutions you find. big thumbs up !
Dunno why, but watching this video was very therapeutic for me. Thanks, bro.
yeah me too buddy
Same here. I'm thinking, I'll never do this. But, I cannot look away.
RJ the bike guy,,,,,,,,,has done it again.....no need to buy a gravel ,,,, get and frame get the components from adinerado bike and whaaaaalaaaa
Je n'ai pas compris un seul mot des explications (bon, les images suffisent), mais cela produit le même effet chez moi aussi.
Ditto...
This is about the third time I watched this build. I like how you go through every detail of the build. Man, you're the best. Peace!!!
I've been working on bikes for about 4 weeks now and I'm constantly worried about messing something up and the idea of removing all the components to work on the bike is so terrifying that it's paralyzing almost but things are starting to make sense and those fears are becoming lesser. I have videos like these especially from RJ the bike guy to thank
I just want to say you are a breath of fresh air my guy! Love the simplicity, the math , the intelligence and the common sense . The approach is flawless!
RJ, you share a great deal of detailed knowledge here that is SO VALUABLE and not generally available on the internet. It appears so easy when you do it, but finding the correct parts and knowing what is possible with these older frames (which is what you help us with!) is the magic. Thank- you!!!
Awesome content as always RJ. You've helped me get 4 bikes on the road that were left for dead. Thanks a ton.
It’s a real pleasure to watch someone work who knows what he’s doing. Thanks so much.
I really enjoyed every minute of this thoughtful and practical build. Steel is real, and it will hold up well off road. I'm glad the frame wasn't modified. Some future owner might want to build it that triple-butted frame as a road bike again...but man, that'll be a fun ride in its current configuration! Thanks for your time RJ!
The Technium frame was an innovation - used aluminum main tubes and a steel rear triangle. It was "welded" using an epoxy.
@@fixieebro Yes, I had a Raleigh Technium, what a nice light responsive frame that was.
This frame however, has the rather rare (Ross Signature 290 S) triple-butted Ishiwata-tubing, which is even better no doubt!
RJ, You should post some footage of you riding your bikes when you are done with them.
Seconded! Or someone, anyone riding them.
Maybe RJ doesn't have any good trails near him or he isn't very good or something
It never ceases to amaze me how well old steel bikes can be adapted to modern trends and considerations. Sports tourer of the early 80's = worthy gravel & cyclocross contender of today.
Aye
So long as you don't try to stop in bad weather/ mud
I'd have upgraded my old bike if I had it. I now have the one I bought in 2013 brand new. Spent a while in some parts so it wasn't left outside to rust. I removed the seat and wheels. Lost a bearing. It's all good now. A few tweaks here and there still
Jock Alladrick steel bikes don't rust when the paint is good by your logic every car ever would be a pile of dust in minutes
Joey V. Also how much bespoke custom tourers resemble 1980s MTBs.
Jacob Westphal I think he's referring to disc brakes.
The real value of your video is the trial and error methods! Another masterpiece. I think I will get a rear extender to build my own gravel ride.
I've probably said this already in a previous comment but binge watching the full build videos again, this thing is a beast! Watching this again, 100% inspired me to build one myself, slowly getting into gravel bikes now, made a cheapy 'mock up' last year. A rough old Raleigh road bike frame mixed and matched some mountain bike parts, enjoyed it, awesome bike. I'm lucky enough to have gravel tracks right on my doorstep where I'm from. Only took me a couple of hours to put together the 'Frankenstein' rat bike but think I should now make a proper one like this, really take my time and build her properly 👍
So cool! Thank you for sharing this. Except for that I kept two front gears (but went compact) I did basically the same thing on my first custom frame, more or less. 32mm tires, old school centrepulls for tire clearance. Brazing the frame was the hard part tho... that and figuring the angles... so much math involved. I never knew how right Mrs. Anderson was in school when she said I might actually need it some day lol!
The irony is back in the day this setup (except the knobbies) would've been found on any "sports tourer" roadbike, a category that no longer seems to exist but encompassed both recreational road, light touring, and gravel road bikes as they are now seen.
You help us poor folks have a great fun on a budget. A lot of things that don´t work can with some experimentation. I have to applaud your ingenuity!!! Might as well change your name to RJ The Bike Robinhood
This is one of if not the most descriptive and detailed Frankenstein gravel builds on all of youtube
Ive been building 1x gravel ,mtb and cx bikes for 15 years and i found this video extremely useful informative and therapeutic too. Many thanks for an addictive and compulsive to watch video
Enjoy watching u explaining every details of the process from start to the end.
Beautiful bike, RJ! I may build something like that this winter when I run out of things to do! Thanks for the instruction; you are a gifted teacher!
Thanks RJ. I had an old steel road bike that was a good few inches too big for me but ran beautifully. Having watched a few of your videos I made the jump - I bought a small aluminium road frame and moved everything across. I had a few bloopers - spindle too short and pedals hitting the frame for example, or the gear mismatch with the newer shifters. I bought new headset, cables and rear derailleur. I learned so much and I love my new bike!!
I am no where near equipped to do a project like this but I just learned so much about the construction of my bike. Thank you!
Hi, I have an old 1995 Cannondale R400 (road bike) with the following original parts:
Shimano RSX 7-speed STI group with Hyperdrive-C
Mavic 195 silver rims with 700x23c tires.
I want to convert it to a gravel bike, but my first thought was to only replace the tires with 700x28c and the pedals to SPD click pedals.
Watching your video has motivated me to even try a couple of other stuff such as replacing the RSX STI group with the newer Shimano 105.
Thanks for the video, I subscribed to your channel because I think I will consulting your expertise to get me out of trouble... ride safely and stay healthy
Great timing as I just started doing something similar with a vintage Trek Elance. I had used your cold setting the frame video just the other day! I'm converting to 650b wheels though so I can use a slightly wider tire, but I have to use long reach rim brakes. I'm excited to go with a 1x10 drivetrain with a 11-42T cassette and a long cage derailleur. Thanks for the video!
Lita O. Monaghan can you tell me what 650b wheels you are using and which brake callipers. I have a road bike that fits a 30 mm cx tyre perfectly on the front but on the back it's rubbing the calliper a tiny bit so I might need some new ideas. Thanks
Outstanding discussion on gear numbers….along with a great chart! Probably the first time I’ve understood WTH all the numbers mean! I have five bikes in my basement…..I now have this compulsion to go down and “count teeth” on my gear cogs!
I watched it mostly for the rust cleaning and greasing. It's prolly why I love rebuilding old bikes.
This is exactly what I want to do with my bike. Thank you. Besides, it is a very well made video. We need such videos with affordable (and great) bikes.
This is excellent. I REALLY need to see a followup video of how this bike actually feels and handles, please! :D
You make these jobs look so easy. I would love to build a single speed bike out of an older bike, but I don't know where to even start. Great video!
These videos are brilliantly made. So easy to follow, explains the bits that need examining but doesn't waffle on and makes me want to do projects like these myself.
one of the best videos you ever made
Agree.
I wish I could download you're knowledge of bikes just like in the Matrix.
Me: "Whoa! I know bike fu."
RJ the Bike Guy: "Show me."
Thanks for sharing this. I'm about to start a build with my '84 Raleigh frame (more commuter/urban than gravel, but there will be some gravel too) and this was really helpful!
I love steel, for comfort and looks. Thanks for explaining every detail.
Really enjoyed this conversion process and learned a great deal about the parts and operations of a bike. Thank you. Bob C.
How about a video of you on the trail with the gravel bike?
TheDon1856, yup, totally agree, let's see rj on the trail
yes this!
I would like to see how it handles?! 🤔🙄😀
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RJ, I have watched several of your videos. Thank you for the large wealth of knowledge you share with the world. I'm a long-time tinkerer who is relatively new to the world of bike mechanics, and you have showed me countless tips and tricks that you have accumulated over your years of experience. This build is very inspiring. I hope to have a project like this with spare parts in the distant future. Thank you!!!
Uhj 2:15 I know if the td5gf
A great guide to converting an old bike RJ!
A couple of tips to help anyone watching the video:
1) 9 speed MTB derailleurs work with 10 speed road shifters which may provide enough range so you don't need to buy the hanger extender that you used. Note that 10 speed MTB derailleurs do NOT work with 10 speed road shifters.
2) You shouldn't have to remove the 'dust cover' from the cranks before installing them - they normally need a 10mm allen key but the crank installation bolt uses an 8mm. The dust cover is what allows the cranks to be self extracting - the 8mm bolt pushes against the cover and 'pulls' the non-drive side crank off.
Hopefully this helps someone out :-)
It depends on the cranks.
Great project. Its insanity that the Bike industry wants us to think we need to buy extremely specific new bikes for every little variation in riding surface.
It’s because they know that many bike enthusiasts loooove collecting. I have 5 bikes, road, mountain, fixed gear, BMX, and a nice cruiser. But the Mountain bike is the only one I bought new. I have maybe 1300 bucks in all 5. If I had bought all of them new I could have easily spent 4,000-10,000 bucks, which to me seems insane, thing is plenty of people can easily afford that.
There's a sucker born every minute. Fools are soon parted from their money! But Marketing is little more than propaganda and brainwashing! They count on your foolishness and lack of knowledge.
If you do research and are patient and careful with your money, great deals are out there, As are fix up projects.
Learning to do things yourself, investing in tools and USING WHAT YOU HAVE is actually very empowering and you might even save yourself a long walk!
The human body, fitness, skills and the power of your mind are what holds you back, NOT THE BIKE!! Its just a tool!
Try UNDERBIKING, the act of USING WHAT YOU HAVE!
Ive ridden steel racing, touring and 'cross bikes on dirt roads and singletrack since well before anyone ever heard of MTBs in the '70s!
Well, choice is nice. If you buy a good bike one time and never buy another bike for 30 years, it’s not a very profitable business model and you don’t get new tech. I appreciate people who have the disposable cash to buy disposable carbon bikes. Somebody has to keep R &D bills paid and the economy rolling. I also appreciate being “in the know” and not brainwashed by marketing. Love these kinds of videos.
DUH, just like gravel bikes ? Its planned obsolessence. Just like all the phone, and computer cables are all different now ! Its a conspiracy to sell us more stuff ! Updates are the most annoying thing I have ever encountered !
Great video! And great looking bike! Nice work, thank you! 👍
I cant speak for everybody, but I must say I appreciate your videos thoroughly. They get me jonesin to do the same project, cuz, hey, it's a lot of fun! Thank you!
nice build, although as a vintage bike lover I kind of consider it sacrilegious to sacrifice a so well preserved oldie. My only worry is the clearance between rear tyre and brake caliper, it sure looks marginal in the video, a little stone or twig and catastrophe looms...Tell us how it fares off road though...
43:20 if you pause it at the correct time and at the slowest playback speed, theres a text that flashes on the screen.
"How many apples grow on a tree?
All of them" wtf?
yep
How on Earth did you find that?
Powerful subliminal messaging. Illuminati mind control by RJ the Bike Guy.
Lol i saw some text fly by so i set my speed on 0,25x and finally got it and then i looked im the comments 🤦♂️
@Dick Fageroni I use > or < above the comma or the period. This gives you frame by frame advance or rewind.
Man I wish we had this kind of video info when I was a kid! I’da never been a chef! I’da been a bike guy! Absolutely amazing to watch! I’ve wasted 30 years! 😝
Thanks for the clear and concise directions on the build. This sure seems much easier than other conversion videos i have watched.
This is the way the first Mountain Bikes were made back in the 80's - very cool.
your videos are helping me alot with learning how to fix bikes :) thanks
Loved this conversion. I was a little misty eyed because I owned and loved the exact Ross almost 40 years ago. I would love to ride this one. :)
Gotta admit, this video was therapeutic to watch. Good job with this one.
52 minutes of bike love
wish you could by that from the back of a seedy magazine 😏
I really like your builds, would like to see you build a late 80s or early 90s race BMX with modern components
I learned how to ride a bike on my moms 10 speed when I was five, same color just different top tube. Brings back a lot of memories.
you just saved me from wasting money on overpriced gravel bike. I'll fix my old road bike from the 70's.
I don't think that bottom bracket could have been any drier when you removed it! Surprised it wasn't seized up. :)
I got thirsty watching that section it was so dry
I know, right. Freakinv deseet.
Liofa I noticed that too.😄
Nice build. Great use of old, but usable parts and frame.
Loved it, I am not a bike mechanic. Rostered a lot of old sports cars, I have a 79’ Benotto racer I want to restore. Will be fun learning experience. Thanks for the video man
First!
Haha, I love these kind of videos and your style
I jist make my 1x8 conversion it's works amazing, if you choose the right front chainring size!
Thanks the amazing tutorials!
RJ The Bike Guy I think that's the best looking build so far !!!!!
RJ The Bike Guy RJ sir ,
What kind of inexpensive bike stand do you recommend ?
My heaviest will be a stainless steel fendered 1962 Schwinn jaguar .
Thank you
Sonofa! >.
Q. How many apples grow on a tree?
A. All of them
Was gonna ask the same question, you beat me to it :D
I was wondering if I was the only one to see it.
That is the correct answer😂
I cant imagine another answer. Is it a stupidity test? 🤣🤣🤣
Great job, I love those old Ross bicycles. I remember when you could only get a Ross though mail order.
Fantastic. I could not fast forward because I learned something all along the way. Your narration is spot on. Not too little and not too much. You do make everything look easy but that is a reflection on you being a true craftsman. I look forward to watching more of your great projects. Nice you kept the patina of the old Ross frame.
Okay, this is what I'm talking about.
you should include test ride footage after these builds
Fascinating video. I learned a lot about general bike components along with the gravel specific nuances. TY.
Thankyou so much for learning us about all the small details, in assembling a bike like this. Now i need to go buy tools 😅
This would be an awesome touring bike. Great vid.
not with a 1x
no way...that geometry loaded with gear on a 300+ mile tour with elevation and mixed road doesn't sound that fun.
1x can be applied to
Right at 43:20 only one frame it says a text:
Q. How many apples grow on a tree?
A. All of them.
Thanks for that movie. Did the same conversion 1x10 with road 105 on my bike. Also works perfect.
I am restorating a Koga MIyata from the 90's and this Virdeo ghelped me out. Greetz from Germany
I love this. Thanks! Do you have a video on how to do the clear coat?
I just pulled off all the parts, cleaned the frame really well. Wiped it down with naptha and then spray light coats of clear on.
You should do some test ride videos.
This bike looks like a beast. I used to ride an old Specialized crossroads that was heavily modified. Called it the Chromium Falcon. I could take that bike anywhere and it looked like a heap of garbage but up close you could see the work put in. I'd love to get my hands on a bike like this again. Great work RJ!
This isn't as heavy duty as my trek 700 gravel bike conversion. It's lighter and fun to ride.
Tonight, on a whim, I slipped a pair of Chukkers with 35c Gravelking SK tires into my Bridgestone 200 frame. Wooo! Lots of clearance for those! I already have a set of longer reach brakes due to the 27" to 700c swap I did years ago, and they have plenty of room for the tires, though they'd need to be deflated to mount and dismount. That's fine.
nice i want to convert my classic road bike
amuro ray I'm in the process of doing this to my old road bike
29:50 - you don't need another chain, just add one extra master link. I've used two and three in series without problems.
Also - since you are using 'old' 10 speed shimano, why not just use MTB rear mech. The old style 'dual pivot' non-shadow designs should handle 40T without problem and without that fugly extension hanger.
To quote a Canuky youtuber, "you have to pee with the c*ck you got". The 105 was probably what he had avalible, besides the exercise was beneficial because it proves it is in-fact possible to mix those parts. Although it would be great to see some follow up on the status of the drivetrain after RJ puts some miles on the bike.
Because the Shimano mountain-bike and road derailers have different cable pull ratios. You would need a Shiftmate, which I'm sure is more expensive than that little derailer bracket.
Would love to see someone building a chain made completely of masterlinks!!!
Shimano road up to 10 speed has the same pull ratio as its mtb up to 9 speed. You can interchange them freely. The only exception is Tiagra 4700, which is 10-speed, but shares pull ratio with 11 speed road.
So many great tips, tricks, ideas and general knowledge in this video. I appreciate every minute of this video. Thank you!
such a sick build. Sickest vintage frame with the perfect choice of new age parts
183 dislikes. Probably from people who wear spandex on their $ 4k bikes
I never could understand 'dislikes' on good educational videos.
No man, not for people that uses spandex, the 184 dislikes maybe because this guy transform a classical perfect bike of 80's in a horrible ugly monster of actuallity, the worst work that I ever seen... PD: I have a colnago 1989 master, not a $ 4K bike.
The guy puts out good informative videos. He is talented. Even shows us how to make our own tools instead of paying outrageous prices for a seldom used tool. We ride our bikes. You probably just polish your bike with a diaper and look at it Andres Sierra
@@ralphpannone3391 You should not assure what you do not know, I do all the maintenance to my bikes, because I have 3, the video is good in that idea, it explains how to remove and put the pieces, nobody denies it, the problem is that the aesthetic is important I personally believe that the bicycle was much prettier and more valuable before the change that he made
@@andyharris313 I can "assure" you this:
Ive been watching these videos since around 2010 or 11 and have learned how to do everything from rapping handle bars(early video)to complete overhaul. He has taught me to make my own tools,put on braze-ons on bikes without them,and put tons of bikes back into use that would otherwise be in the landfill. Because you think its an ugly bike now does not warrant a dislike. He helps people avoid costly maintenance from bike shops and THAT puts people out on the road on their bikes who may not be able to otherwise. That ALONE deserves a like,man. Nobody forced you to watch his video
Newton's third law is: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
its called progress today
Watched this video in its entirety again. It's even more valuable during the pandemic.
Another great build....You should do a show and tell of all the bikes you have and talk about what you changed from the original build.
I dig it ! ,looks killer !! would be really cool if your name is Ross ! Big ol R on the head tube...I have one, I call it my Rolls Ross
I was about to sell an older bike similar to this but you have inspired me to go down the Gravel Bike route also. Thanks heaps. Great build!!!
so satisfying to watch someone build a bike
dude you gave this bike a second life! love it! i'm thinking about going GRX for my crankset 1x just because i dont want to change my road bike BB
A great build! and what a nice color! the 1X10 setup is very practical in shifting. I am still having a MTB with 3x5 and i am tired of the overlapping of the gears. Thanks to your videos i have managed to service the hubs and bottom bracket of my 1989 Raleigh Mustang, and my 1983 Raleigh Twenty (Stowaway). They run flawlessly, and i keep using more the Twenty than the Mustang. It has to do with the more comfortable driving position, and that i go faster with it.
Love this video. My 10 year old autistic son seems to be developing a taste for gravel. He doesn't communicate very well, so I often let him navigate. He's found gravel on his own. I don't know how, but he likes it. Thinking about looking for an old steel bike to do a conversion on.
Plenty of interesting pro methods here, really appreciated. Happened to fully disassemble regrease and rebuild my 5600 brifters ...wow... not easy but v.satisfying...lots of small highly tensioned parts inside. I actually buffed various plates inside with Autosol metal polish and in one introduced a small slim washer to introduce more precision. Not possible to do on the other due to clearance issues. Yet to use, fingers crossed!
I wish I would have seen these video last year when I converted my 1987 Schwinn World Sport to a gravel bike like this! I guess now the only thing to do is go rebuild my bike to make it better. Great video!
All of your videos has been very helpful. Thank you very much RJ. Much appreciated.
What a lovely steel framed bike. Maybe i am old fashioned but to me they have never been bettered when it comes to aesthetics.
That's beautiful. Turned out better than I thought is was going to. I didn't know a dual pivot road brake would operate around tires much larger than traditional road tires of 23-28mm. Been getting use to the tire freedom disc brakes give.
Great job👍
I now have the confidence to bend my old steel. Excellent rebuild RJ
Very well explained with a lot of different tricks about how to repair/retrofit a bike, thank you. Very clear pronunciation for non native English speakers!
I would never do that to that bike. I had one of those years ago and wished I still had it. I rode that bike for 22 years. Your components that you have on that bike look better than the stuff I had on mine too. You are killing some history there.
Then don't do it to yours. This was not a handmade Ross Signature model. It was made overseas. As it was, I bought it for the components anyway.
This was such a joy to watch! Sad that I came so late to this channel.
as a newbie I find your commentary extremely helpful. thank you.
its actually a gorgeous bike. this is an inspiration, for sure. this is one i'll have to watch several times to get all of the info i might need out of it. great job!