2021 Polestar 2: E5 - Sandy's Final Take
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Sandy and the Munro Live team wrap up with some final thoughts on the Polestar 2.
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For us living in the colder climates (half the year is more or less icy), we love our door handles. The mechantronics just won't work reliably when things can freeze.
This! Tesla has a big issue with this in freezing weather. The PS2 worked perfectly last winter!
This is why Munro should stick to taredowns and not try to be a car reviewer as well.
@@thorsev6960 Or at least he should consider Volvo actually knows what they're doing regarding detail like these unlike some Californian company with engineers who've only seen snow on TV. Volvo although owned by the Chinese Geely is still practically a Swedish company with Swedish engineers designing these cars, who know very well what Nordic winters are like.
@@jammi__ As an Icelander I can very much relate to what Volvo is doing. But it's not only this point of his with the Polestar. In a typical $TSLA fan boy fashion he decides to focus on acceleration, software and frunks when comparing EVs. Cars like ID4 and Enyaq are selling like hot cakes here in Europe, despite of all his criticisms, because they are very affordable, practical and spacious (especially considering their dimensions). To sum it up, I don't think he has any clue to what the average car buyer wants from a vehicle.
@@thorsev6960 Yes, I'm from Finland myself and over here we value corrosion resistance, range/economy, reliability, practicality, longevity, and winter features. Things like performance are enough if it's meeting the basic expectations of normal cars.
Cars and everything car-related (such as fuels) are extremely heavily taxed, and since income is also extremely heavily taxed, a car is a major investment few private persons can afford as new. Most car owners never bought a new car, rather someone rich's used cars and used company cars. The average car age is over 10 years and the average car scrapping age is over 20 years.
If a car doesn't last 20-30 years with normal use, it'll get a very bad reputation and not sell much in the future. Kind of funny that Munro likes something as niche as Jeeps, which are deeply undesirable here due to bottom-tier reliability at least in annual inspection statistics, are very unpractical, uneconomic, and so forth.
Also I have to note that Sandy is one of those 'old guys' that doesn't virulently defend the status quo, and consistently looks towards the future in many different forms. Really inspiring. Really hope that I will get a chance to work under someone like that.
Super inspiring. I'm so tired of people who can't be bothered to learn or understand.
Sandy has the balls to say what he thinks, no matter what’s currently the cool opinion. He’s probably gotten himself into tons of trouble over the years because of that. :D
He's an engineer, I suppose he has to make statement based on facts.
The future of unable to get in your car if the battery is dead or it's winter or the electric motor died in the door or when there is a minor electrical problem? This is not progress.
@@sokacsavok You get the issues with ICE cars and as an ICE has thousands more working parts there are more failure point too. ICE cars have had no real progress at all as they are all built around ICE. Where as BEV's are still a maturing technology and getting better all the time, so I am afraid to say you have no argument.
What you’re saying needs to be heard, I remember the first Toyota’s , did like them,on principle. Then drove and worked on them. I just couldn’t believe how good they were.easy to work on and fun to drive.
I’m an old guy too. We have experience to draw on that the younger folks don’t have. I have the greatest respect for your investigation and opinion. Thank you.
Please keep on sharing it with the youngsters that care. You 'Old Guys' have more experience and grit than we will ever see again. Thank you both!
I am up to my third Volvo in 20 years and those Door handles will keep opening at -25 celsius, what about the Mustang?
Keep up your good work!
No doors should open at -25.
@@no_more_free_nicks I like to drive my car and -25 C is normal winter temp so the door handles have to work. Mach-e will not in snow and -25C I think. Looks like a good thing in warmer climate,but not in the nordics or alaska
But in the USA the temperature almost never drops that low and it rarely drops that low in Europe.
@@no_more_free_nicks door handles, as in they still function properly in extreme cold.
@@mamadouaziza2536 well it’s a Swedish car and that temperature is not uncommon in the winter in Sweden, Volvo always design for the Nordic climate.
You and Teslabjørn are the greatest on RUclips when it comes to videos about EVs. Good work! Cheers from Norway!
Teslabjørn is deep in the VW pocket, lol
At least in 2021, maybe also 2020, Teslabjörn has gotten quite a noticeable egocentrism. Some of his videos are hard to watch now because of that.
@@Groaznic He always has some car from VW wich he doesn't even film. Why should VW let him have a car for months without getting anything back? He always mentions VW
@@epoxy1710 Just curious, how do you know so many details about how long VW gives him cars etc.?
@@Groaznic he said it. He didn't need to buy a new car after he sold his Model 3 because VW wanted to give him a car for 3 months or what it was
3 quick things:
1. The cup holder is hidden to carry the used cups. It’s a very smart way.
2. The handles are because of the extreme winter climates.
3. The physical buttons in the interior make it such a good blend between advance technology and old school!
In the end "But I am still a tesla fan..."😂
IKR?! Rofl!
The biggest problem with the Polestar 2 is that it's very expensive compared to the Model 3 and has nearly 100 miles shorter range. Combine that with no Supercharger network. Really, how is it a competitor? The Model Y is even considerably less expensive than the Polestar 2.
@@StormyDog I guess there's a big market for the "anything but a Tesla" kind of people. And for those the Polestart 2 is arguably the best choice. So the Polestar may not compete by way of specs but by way of market volume.
@@StormyDog At the end of the day Range is only one parameter, and frankly the only one where the Polestar falls a little short. So if you do 95% of your driving in a 100-150 mile radius, then how would it matter?
I myself drive a 85D Model S from 2015, which gets comparable range to the Polestar 2. And frankly: It fulfills my needs perfectly.
I would still prefer Tesla because I like their UI more and the punch you get when flooring it is one of a kind.
But that is super subjective.
@@markusdd5 But range is a very important parameter for most people, especially people who never had an EV and have range anxiety.
Even the Standard Range + Model 3 has more range than the top Dual Motor Polestar.
It kind of shows in the sales statistics.
I like seeing competition. That will make Tesla better too. Charging is still going to be an advantage for Tesla
Like most big Corporations always do they fall back on the Government to subsidize their businesses ,the President is already proposing 500,000 charging station infrastructure program .
Tesla's charging advantage won't last long, they need to keep improving the vehicle if they want to stay on top.
Tesla is building 1 supercharger every day Worldwide. I hope they can speed this up. What is the most value out of superchargers except speed for Tesla is that: you don't need an app, you don't need to register, you don't need to press buttons, so that Is a good deal for me to travel around Europe.
@@heathwirt8919 they wont be in front for long,they will eventually be overtaken
The charging thing is mostly a Tesla advantage in America. In the EU CCS is standardized and the network is quickly catching up, as far as coverage goes it's arguably caught up already.
While Sandy did a great job in this review, what he didn't cover (unless I fell asleep) was the battery technology and motors. Both crucial to longevity, charging cycles, charging times and overall cost of ownership.
I agree with Sandy. Polestar should not be underestimated. This is basically a re-branded Volvo.
I love my 2021 Volvo S90. I am amazed how top notch the overall build quality is for being Chinese. Undoubtedly one of the best interiors in the segment too.
Rebranded Volvo. I'm not sure a lot of people get that. That's what Polestar is.
I love handles, very practical and intuitive. Your hands go there without watching or thinking.
But the reason for them being there is simple: It's a parts bin XC40 that was originally thought to be an S40... with all the little inconsistencies in the chassis reminding you of that.
But part of that is only because we're conditioned to look for handles. In design, that's called an "affordance". For example, when making a door that swings away from the user, a good designer won't add a handle on that side of the door, so it's obvious when looking at it that one has to push; pulling is not an option. It also saves money on unnecessary parts. We're just not yet conditioned to automatically go for the B-pillar (or whatever the new standard becomes).
@@MircoWilhelm Disagree, it was a deliberate design decision because we have winters in Sweden...and when it freezes you need something to yank the door open with. The stupid ModelX ice-breaker doodad is terrible.
Reason the trunk bucket can't be lowered is because there's a retractable tow hook option that allows it to be stored in that cavity.
Yet another great video, Sandy! I really really hope that American OEM's will heed your call and not ignore China as a serious competitor.
They have been ignoring Tesla for almost a decade right in their own back yard and Tesla makes over 70 % of all EVs in the world. And those EVs are the best EVs and the best cars in the world.
@@terrysullivan1992 Best cars? Really? They are really good with the electric part (the best) but to say they make the best cars, you clearly don't own one. They're hardly attached. Buy a new one and there's a 50/50 chance you have to see a service center a dozen times afterwards where half of everything you expect a new car to be is OK by tesla standard. The lowest standard in the industry.
@@Tafsern Spoken like someone who has no experience with Tesla. I live in San Francisco, and know dozens of folks with Teslas; only one had any issues, and Tesla came to his house and repaired it for him while he did remote work.
To my knowledge, Teslas are still the only cars tested by NHTSA to get a perfect five stars in every safety category, and they produce the fastest production cars in the world for a fraction of the supercar price. Sandy has marveled over their "Octavalve" and "military-grade" electronics. I could go on for days about how Teslas are better in most ways than the average car.
@@AMortalDefiant My Tesla has seen about a dozen problems, think 10 or 11 and will soon be out of warranty.
@@Tafsern Gee, I really got lucky with a March 2020 M3dm. Never been anywhere near a service centre yet. Not once! And I forgot to buy a Lotto ticket...
Sandy, in these product comparisons LATELY, both on your channel and others that you are guest on, you forget to mention the still quite strong SuperCharger advantage. The other charging networks at this time still leave a while lot to be desired, as you experienced and mentioned on your road trip EV videos.
I fully agree with Sandy's evaluation of the Polestar, it's a solid well built good looking EV.
The handle helps with opening the door when starting to slip on the ice.
That's ridiculous. I live in an area with heavy snow and ice. No one would ever attempt to open the door and steady themselves with the handle, you would rip it clean off. You position yourself with your hip up against the passenger door, crack the door open with the handle and then grab the upper door frame with your left hand (opening the door) and the A pillar with your right hand as you move forward to grab the grab handle or steering wheel to sit in the car.
If it's icy out you would never attempt to apply a force like that unsupported as you suggest.
@@otm646 and this....this RIGHT HERE having a standard operating procedure to get in your car. Is why i run from snow and snowy places...talkin bout hip on door imma pray for warmth for you.
Can't wait for Sandy's breakdown of the EV6
I think the Hyundai will win that one.
Sandy you’re reviews remind me of what my dad used to watch on tv and this is exactly what I want and what is missing now. It’s all changed in the name of entertainment but what I want is honest down to earth reviews of the cars in front of the expert. Excellent channel and excellent content. You and your team are phenomenal
Monroe has been bought and paid for by Tesla and mustang.
Facts stated as facts and opinions always pointed out as opinions; frank and clear. Sandy's the embodiment of honesty in the business.
Volvo/Polstar/Geely is also going to produce under 50,000 of these (globally) this year. The legacy automakers are hitting the battery constraints just now... they’re finally experiencing what Tesla figured out 5-10 years ago... it’s a real shame they woke up 10 years too late. Now Tesla is going to eat up the market share as it builds it’s battery supply chain 2-3x faster than anyone else.
@@deeperanddown In the original Battery Day presentation they said it will take 12-18 months to get to volume production of the 4680. They're also working with their partners (Panasonic and LG) to do 4680. Keep in mind that their plan is to complement (and match) outside production (from LG/Panasonic/CATL) with their own internal supply. VW which has the most ambitious plan for battery production (6 battery plants for a total of 240GWh in 2030) is less than the 10% of the 3TWh Tesla is planning to have by 2030. That means they'll be able to produce only 10% the number of electric cars that Tesla will be able to make - and this is when many countries will already mandate electric only cars... GM/Ford/FCA/Toyota are far behind VW in their plans... so it's not looking good...
@@ranig2848 VW will likely make more smaller cars like ID3 than Tesla, and also has no powerwall or grid powerpack products, so will likely make more cars per GWh battery production. The 240 GWh/year number is also specifically "in Europe" so not necessarily their only battery supply, I would therefore expect VW will actually produce 20-50% the number of electric cars Tesla will be in 2030.
Thank you! No one I’ve seen is doing the comparative analysis between these EV’s as you do.
Stay safe and healthy!
Great overview of the 2 competitors to TM3
Great comments. I always wonder how they can screw up cup holders. I would love to see a discussion on nationwide charging, beyond Sandy's general comments. It seems like cars like Polestar are coming fast that at least give the buying options but then the charging situation for non-Tesla isn't really close and the old Auto thinks someone else is going to take care of charging for them.
I think the discussion about cup holders is not the same in every country. I bought a Polestar in Germany a few weeks ago. The cup holder was not an issue at all for me and the family - we use it very very rarely. Mostly there are pens and notes in it :-)
"The next battery will fix it" (but Tesla has "the next battery" on the way)
Presidents already pushing a 500,000 charging station infrastructure program, (Subsidies for Corporations)
My GOD, its not 2016, we are half into 2021 there are public chargers everywhere.
@@mamadouaziza2536 no they are not
Thanks, as always, Sandy!
You are so welcome!
Killin it Sandy and crew!
For Polestar best presentation ever seen! Thx.
Tesla knows their strengths and weaknesses. I firmly believe Tesla’s new Texas manufacturing plant will resolve those weaknesses.
Competition is a win/win for consumers.
Electrifying times.
I think the German plant will make a world of difference.
@@esm7708 Living in Colorado I have been trained in German Manufacturing Quality Control Mechanical Engineering, and feel that Tesla’s German plant will likely set their global quality standards for all other manufacturing plants to follow.
I spoke to a mobile service guy here in the UK last week as he was fixing a rattling trim piece I had driving me insane.
I asked him "What's the quality like on the 2021 models from China?" (UK just switched from Fremont to China-built cars), he jokingly said something along the lines of "They're amazing, so much better, but I need these to be bad otherwise I'm out of a job". 😅
I truly believe that Elon's statement of "How do you change the wheels on the bus when it's doing 80mph?" is exactly the reason why quality is rather poor from the Fremont factory. Up until very recently it produced all Model 3 and Y, how do you find the time to shutdown to renovate the line? You really don't.
Teslas biggest problem now is poor service and they are doing nothing yet to fix it.
@@martialman.4563 Do we know how true that really is though? In my own experience I've had nothing but great service.
It's likely limited to some stores.
Remember, even if there's 100 people complaining, out of 1,500,000 cars that's a good ratio!
(I do hear that the service time can be an issue, but they usually provide a loaner car, roadside service and generally getting in touch with service through the app seems to be almost a none-issue)
I like this vehicle including the door handles. Glad it got the hood shocks in lieu of a darn metal broom stick.
Again, nice review Sandy! Please review a Model 3 with a solid casting in the future.
"same car but with a solid casting" there you go
@@experimental_av
"With a solid casting" (3?) which reduces
Complexity of manufacture.
Weight.
Part production time (a lot!)
Vehicle assembly time.
Factory size, cost *and* complexity (a lot!)
And increases
Torsional rigidity (better handing!)
Precision between components AND panels.
So, a completely *different* car in terms of:
Cost (profit!)
Quality
Handling (probably)
?
LOL...."I am still a Tesla Fan" .. like how he sneaked that in at the last moment
Payola
I'm sure Sandy's been watching their stock drop off with concern haha. Surprised he made no reference to the operating systems too, I've heard Polestar>Tesla on that front.
shows he has a bias
This channel deserves tons more subscribers.
His expertise is well appreciated.
Test drove one on Sunday here in Arizona. Loved the car, but that center console was also a killer for 6'1" me. Had nowhere for my right knee. Went and drove the Model Y later in the day and despite the 10 week wait, compared to 2 weeks for the Polestar. Chose to go that direction!
Love your videos Mr. Munro.
I have to vehemently disagree with Sandy about door handles, inside and out. The door latch is a vital component, and a manual, mechanical, physical connection is the safest, most reliable means of entry and exit, especially in an emergency. An electrical button is an unnecessary extra step. In 1968 the Chevy Corvette had the perfect solution to provide aerodynamically clean exterior door handles-a simple door you push inwards to then grab the latch and open the door.
Definitely agree the rear window is too small, making for poor visibility, other than that 100% happy with Polestar 2.
Thanks Mr. Munro
He is slowly getting better with the videos delivery.hope we get to see awesome project in the future
Great review of the Polestar 2. I love your honesty en great expertise.
Polestar and Mustang are amazing EV’s, it’s great to see more choices in the EV world. This is just the start, so many new EV’s in the pipeline from a diverse range of manufacturers. That said, I cannot wait to see what the new Model Y has to offer with all the new technologies, structural battery pack, Giga castings, 4680 cells, weight reduction and perhaps improved wiring loom too! I’m also intrigued to know which company has just ordered the 9,000 ton Giga press from Idra? I’m sure time will tell👍
Hello Sandy! Absolutely love your show! I wanted to add, you always say plead tip your cashiers, and I agree! Please mention to please be kind to your healthcare workers. We who are bot RN’s get paid less than most union workers (including cashiers), and we often get treated like dirt. Absolute dirt! We work with sick, lonely, hurting people and quite often they take their frustrations out on us! It’s a very very stressful job, yet we continue with it because we love our patients! Even though we get treated like total dirt sometimes because they are frustrated with the doctor running behind (who most of the time is working non stop, but sometimes is being lazy), yet the patient takes it out on us and treats the doctor so nice. Most of us are ruining our health by trying to keep our patients happy. We are dehydrated. Hungry, and have full bladders just to keep on time! Yet we are treated like crap! Please ask your viewers to be nice to us! Otherwise we’ll quit and becomes union sign holders who literally make Twice as much as we do, and have no stress! Thanks!
For the people who are complaining about the pricing: Polestar is currently selling these cars as fast as they can manufacture them, as long as that's the case, why on Earth would they lower the price? There are too many "internet experts" who have no idea how business works.
Well said ⚡️👍🏻
Those must be the same people that are waiting for Tesla's $25,000 car. If you can't afford an EV, you can always buy a conventional Toyota Corolla
EVs generally need to be cheaper, but Polestar is literally Volvos luxury/performance arm... they aint gonna make a cheap one. In about 5 years I expect to start seeing really affordable EVs.
@@patreekotime4578 Part of it is import taxes and other costs associated with getting the Polestar 2 from China to the US. Geely's new Zeekr 001 is their first car based on a pure EV platform, and that thing blows the Polestar 2 out of the water in terms of range, performance, styling, everything, and they'll be selling it in China starting at the equivalent of $45,000 USD, which is cheaper than what the Polestar 2 costs in the US.
@@tren133 I doubt it blows the Polestar 2 away in terms of some things as safety, quality, solidity and high-speed performance. I'm sure it's a nice car but let's not think that because Geely owns Polestar and makes cars that share a platform that they are of the same quality.
Nice reviews and all
One thing you are missing for the door handle
Up here and Canada and where they are designed in sweden. Polestar(Volvo)
We got snow and ice we need door handle
Tesla handle and jams in winter
I appreciate how matter of fact you are. Gives me confidence when I buy my EV this year that I’m making the best choice based on your insight. Thank you.
My 20 years old Focus ZX3 was made in R=Hermosillo and is a GREAT car. Many were made in W=Wayne Michigan.
Please please, love to see tear down of Polestar 2's motor and battery tech!!
Challenges to being an early adopter! My Polestar 2 EV was in the Volvo/Polestar service dept for the 2nd time in its short lease life, this time for 26 days, to try to fix software and possibly hardware issues. With the help/intervention of Polestar corporate, the car was finally returned yesterday afternoon with 45% remaining so I plugged it in and I couldn't immediately charge it. Back to the service dept today; the brutal saga continues! According to IHS Markit, forecasted expected volume for 2021 is only about 250 vehicles/month. Polestar corporate, its PS2 vehicle, the customer service team, vehicle repair services, and parts inventory are clearly not ready for prime time in the US! It is not like you can go to another dealer or repair shop; your are stuck with the one service location and team. Lesson learned?
Thank you!
You bet!
Attractive good car--as one with long legs for 6'-1" I think the mentioned complaint about driving position would be a deal breaker for me however, I've experienced a little of that sort of cramping before.
I have a friend who only considers buying Volvo vehicles. This is very good info, Sandy.
Polestar employees would have slapped you ! Not a Volvo :-D
Lol, i prefer the prop rod to the gas shocks. I tend to keep cars for awhile and the shocks go bad. The prop rod always works. This car is definitely competitive. It will be interesting to see 2021-2022 ev sales figures in Europe. I think this is a nice step up from the id3/id4 but not sure about the price difference.
I also have some 20 year old cars...the gas shocks cost about $20 and can be changed in less than 5 minutes at home. Just two clips hold them on.
My thoughts exactly! And I'm at the same age where I remember not thinking much about a few Honda civics and Toyota Corolla's :-)
:D
Door handles belong to car design as much like ears on the head..I love the look on polestar, just my opinion 😉
Brilliant, spot on!
It cool there is finally competition for Tesla in the Mustang, Polestar and Ioniq 5.
An honest opinion and fresh perspective from Mr. Munro. And thank you for calling out ignorant “Mexican Mustang” comments. My Nissan from Mexico was excellent.
At least it is made well and they are an near the US and an ally. The CCP wants to rule the world
Competition is good for everyone!
Maybe Tesla will look at Ford lightning and make some pivots on feature sets moving into production.
5:26 my cat when i feed her anything but her favourite deluxe wiskers
I beg to differ on the pricing ("they're all the same price"). The ID4 is significantly cheaper than the Polestar 2: low $30k vs low $50k after tax credit. Granted there are plans to release lower priced (lower content 2WD) Polestar 2s in the future.
THANKSGIVING
Polestar is Incredible for it's size. If someone is looking for such size car with a kick to it polestar is perfect. Great on snow, a fun to drive car, good to transport senior citizens , when you give it some gas their reactions are the best 😊😂😂 Like gasoline VW cars you get more features for the buck. Next one over polestar which I love would be xc40 recharge, if ever wanted an ev SUV xc40 recharge is the nicest one. But little pricey.
Can't wait to see the Ford F150 review. Wait they haven't made them yet. I bet the Cyber Truck will be produced first and the F150 price will increase substantially due to battery cost.
Wait let’s see each companies track record! The cyber truck will be fourth to market after Ford, Rivian and GMC. I am waiting for the semi, roadster and fed all years late.
Center console hitting my knee is deal-killer for me.
I follow another reviewer who had the car on long term and complained about hitting his knees on the center console too so I guess that it really is a problem.
I think they need to solve that asap. Maybe with a retrofit. However I hear they can't keep up with the demand.. so that's unlikely.
Canceled my order after testing the car twice. The console hitting my knee was the worst.
Same as for the hood. Mechanical opener beats mechatronics every time. Get some ice on or inside the opener, and they'll get stuck.
I live in the UK, and I see plenty of Teslas on the road. I now start to see Polestars as well. The other high vis car is the Porsche Taycan. Don't see many Renault Zoes or Nissans.
I saw what looked like one of those Honda EVs the other day. Are those out here now?
@@lassievision It looks like a model is available.
Hi Sandy, don't know if you read these comments, but there is one thing about Polestar I don't think you mention but is quite important:
Polestar, like most modern cars, are always connected to the net and to the manufacturers servers. Polestar is Chinese owned (Geely). With modern connectivity and integration of your phone and the cars computers, it's almost impossible to be sure what information is passed to the manufacturers server. But as Chinese law requires that all companies share all information with Chinese intelligence, any information passed on to the servers are available to the government of China. I work in quite a sensitive area, and has been told by my company security folks that Ford and Tesla are ok, but that if I where to purchase a Polestar I would not be allowed to connect my phone to the car.
This might not be a big deal for many people, and most companies would - at this stage - not worry about their staff connecting their phone to a car, but this is something anyone who considers purchasing a Chinese car should remember.
PS: I make this point, not as a "red blooded american", but as a social democrat Scandinavian, so please don't mix in american politics in this.
iPhones built for sale in China have government-mandated carrier restrictions. iPhones built for export do not. No reason PS can't follow this model, and they probably do. I guess you could research it, if you really care.
@@thecliff4838 it's the connection to servers owned by a Chinese company that makes this problematic. Doesn't matter if they have restrictions or not. Everything that goes on that server can be accessed by Chinas intelligence agencies. This is valid as long as the car is connected to the net.
Sandy, i agree I am also tesla fan, i would like to see Telsa succeed even more in all segments, truck, suv, car.
It is developed in Gothenburg Sweden.
Yes. It's a Volvo. I think a lot of people don't understand that the Polestar 1 and Polestar 2 are Volvos. Polestar, esssentially, is a spinoff company of Volvo after being Volvo's performance tuner and there are Polestar Volvo sleeper cars driving around on roads now.
Nice video.
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I hate gas shocks. They get weak and don't work well on inclines if your car is nosing downhill.
Love the prop rod, for small maintenance.
If I need to do more serious maintenance I get a garden rake or a stick or something.
Thanks for the review Sandy!
There is a door handle below the button, this not good looking black thing ✌️! I like the solid mustang door handle.
I have the performance pack (sport brakes and dampers) version of this car and it`s a joy to drive. One thing not mentioned is the great headlights, awesome in twisty roads in the dark cold winter months here in Norway. A not so positive thing is that i bump my head in the roof when i sit in the backseat.
Sandy, did your staff tell you the Polestar 2 has limited availability? Here are the states with number of dealers: AZ (1), CA (3), CO (1), TX (1), NY (1), MA (1). EPA range is 233 miles. Price, about $54k AFTER tax credit.
Did your dad tell you that Tesla’s are poorly built, bad paint, lack of customization, lack of infotainment options and the fraud of fsd
They need to tax the heck out of these invasion autos from Communist china
@@rmflyer1258 why? Because 'murcah would rather live in fear than try to innovate and compete?
That is the one point they are not bringing up. The charging infrastructure and how the supercharger network is light years ahead of the competition here in the US to use some of Sandy's terminology :)
The President already is Proposed a 500,000 Electric Vehicle charging program or scheme however you want to look at it .
Disagree...we have 150KW chargers for FREE in my hometown (all the Tesla's charge there too). And there's plenty of 300KW fast charges to take me to the north pole if I wanted to.
I have had frozen doors i needed to pull on with all my might to open..
So doorhandles are fine for me.
Thank you Sandy
Big Tesla fan here, but this Car looks great. I really like the look outside and the interiour looks also incredible. I also prefer to have a dashboard with some information.
It just needs more range. Tom Moloughney's steady 70mph range test, with the Polestar 2, he got only 226 miles out of 100% of the battery.
In the 2021 Model 3 Long Range, steady 70mph range test, he got 305 miles.
Great series.Thank you Sandy. It appears that pricing and suspension/equipment specs may be different in EU than in US. But range and charging should not be ignored. I wish polestar the best and hope that they make a better version next time. Range would be my concern with this car. And the cost of charging vs the tesla will not be trivial and should be mentioned.
I would love a teardown of it now so we can co.pare this version to their next version to see the upgrades in components.
Thank you for telling it like it is, I love your honest reviews Sandy! 👍
Love the ID.4
I tried Tesla and Polestar. Both great to drive. I bought the Polestar because it felt better and looked better for me. The paint on Tesla 3 seems to be weak and easily damaged.
Early Toyota car must have a supply problem
Dash speaker box was wood nailed together
My dad was impressed
They got the job done .
He predicted their quality would improve very fast
Hyundai / Kia also on the inflection point
I think volvo/polarstar will sell a lot of these cars but not in north america. This car is made for china/european markets in mind.
Why?
@@rogerstarkey5390 One reason is that it's expensive in America compared to Tesla. In Sweden the Polestar 2 costs exactly the same as a Tesla Model 3 LR.
Agreed. Polestar 2 has a bit of a brand recognition problem over there it seems as well. But price might also be a factor (in Sweden they are much closer).
👍 thank you !
Welcome!
It is a well made car, because its Swedish - just happens to be manufactured in China, like the iPhone.
You mean "a well *designed* car because it's Swedish House'"
If it's "well built" that's down to China.
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All made in a CCP Factory by the CCP nothing made in Sweden
@@rogerstarkey5390 And Volvos coming out of Gothenberg, Sweden; Ghent, Belgium; and heck, the USA aren't well built. It's not down to the factory's location. It's down to the way this thing is designed and the quality control that's across the board in all factories.
I don't agree with that "It's a Chinese car". It's owned and financed by the Chinese but is designed and realized in Sweden. It's still a Volvo, not a Geely.
Yeah, with that logic, All model 3 SR+ is "a chinese car"
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Ok, thanks.
@@JorgTheElder It's not absorbed at all. If you wanted to see absorption, then GM's ownership of Saab is absorbed. Volvo seems more Volvo under Geely than it did Saab. And I'm not just talking about the little flags on the seats. The whole design, concepts and Volvo-ness of Volvo seemed to come back more in the Geely-owned Volvo versus Ford. And I'm reading Volvo may buy itself out of Geely anyway and then only part of Polestar, about half, would be owned by Geely. Polestar gets financial backing from Chinese and Korean investors and they'll get it from other areas as well.
If I'm in a Volvo built in Belgium vs. one built in Sweden vs. one built in China, I can't tell the difference. Who designs and engineers it matters a lot more than where it is assembled.
Sandy is sounding the call! OEM in the USA and the EU... the competition is coming and it's not only Tesla. Look to the east!
Asia is west of the US. The internment camps in WW2 were moved away from the Pacific coast because of fear of a Japanese attack (and xenophobic suspicion).
Great insightful analysis and summary Sandy... thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
“It’s Chinese” - reality is what Geely did right was to fund Volvo but leave Volvo to develop its own cars (unlike Ford and Tata) in recognition that that IP would transfer through Geely group. Polestar is a direct transfer out of Volvo (eg design house). More Swedish than Chinese
cars that I wanna see Sandy to check out:
-Mercedes-Benz EQS
-Audi e-tron Q4
Audi is the same basis as the ID.4: there's not much more to learn. Differences interior and exterior design, use of materials, perhaps infotainment. But the whole undercarriage is the same.
Does not mean it can't be a better car than the ID.4. Just like the Enyaq is better (bigger, yet more efficient, easier controls and infotainment) than the ID.4.
I look forward to Sandy's review of the Kia EV6 whenever it hits town.
He badmouth mouthed the Kia and then opened the hood and found out it was a hybrid. What a joke.
Like the Japanese/Chinese comparison Sandy - spot on as I remember that attitude too and Toyota laughed all the way to the bank.
Can't wait for Nio to start showing up here and Jiffy Lubes convert to battery swap stations.
Great video! Please Sandy do your homework about the brand Polestar (Racing) and Volvos several years work with electrification of ice cars.🇸🇪
It's essentially a Chinese Vehicle geely purchased them in 2017 , Electric Vehicle Tech is not rocket science, the holdups are mainly on the battery and infrastructure side.
Please.
@@Gcanno Nope. Not at all. Polestar cars are reengineered Volvos. They're not a Chinese anything. They're not engineered or designed by Geely. They were done by Volvo and specifically Polestar's CEO Thomas Ingenlath and their Head of Design Maximillian Misonni. Both of them are formerly at Volvo and are now at Polestar.
The Polestar 1 is a production version of Volvo's Concept Coupe. The Polestar 2 is a production version of Volvo's Concept 40.2.
Polestar is a racing company and was associated with Volvo back in 1996, before Geely purchased Volvo.
Competition makes everyone of these companies better provided they want to compete!
After watching this video, and a few others and a test drive I bought a Polestar 2.
Did you lease it?
@@spl1011 yes, I leased it. The lease in my area was really reasonably priced. I'm about 2000 miles into the car and so far it has been perfect. Although, my mother broke the visor mirror cover off (damaging it), which apparently is not a robust design.
Wait, the Mustang Mach-E DOES have have a frunk, and it's bigger, and it DOES have air piston supports for the hood, and it DOES go fast.
Very good summary and insight.
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