Are our phones listening to us? - BBC News
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- A mobile security company has carried out a research investigation to address the popular conspiracy theory that tech giants are listening to conversations.
The internet is awash with posts and videos on social media where people claim to have proof that the likes of Facebook and Google are spying on users in order to serve hyper-targeted adverts.
Videos have gone viral in recent months showing people talking about products and then ads for those exact items appear online.
Now, cyber security-specialists at Wandera have emulated the online experiments and found no evidence that phones or apps were secretly listening.
Joe Tidy reports.
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there is a large difference between playing a phone adverts and it listing to what is conversation between groups of people. btw who paid for this study, it seems strange they did not use "real world" style tests
yeap, i couldn't figure out why RUclips keeps serving baby formula ads. No infant or toddler or pregnancy in my household.
Then it occurred to me, I've been calling my cat "crybaby" because he's been doing mating calls at night and when he sees me he wont stop meowing until i cradle and rock him like a baby in my arms.
im assuming my phone also caught the physical motion of me rocking while saying sweet things to my cat.
"come here cry baby."
"who's my good boy?"
"hey handsome boy whatcha doing?"
"you ok my baby boy."
as i cradle and rock him in my arms andy phone in my pocket.
My parents were asking me why I spoke very softly at home
I told them I was afraid Mark Zuckerberg was listening...
They laughed. I laughed.
Alexa laughed. Siri laughed
I saw this somewhere else though.😂😂
I am lauhhing
Hahahah....hol up
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Only 4 phones for the study?! Best high school dissertation ever...
What they were testing had nothing to do with the phone itself. It was the software running on them. Whether you check it in 4 phones or 1000, it's the same result.
Next: Are our Politicians Listening To Us?!?! 🤔
J K politicians NEVER listen to us! This would actually be helpful for politicians! LOL
That's a no I can believe.
Lol
Nice topics
Talk about something with your phone nearby, and see how it pops up in Android news feed
Facts always happens!
There are multiple occasions where my boyfriend and I talked about a topic we have not talked about for a long while then all of a sudden, my feed and recommendations were shoving the topic in my face. I wholeheartedly believe this.
Still feel this way? Lol.
Yep
If they're not listening, then why are most phones batteries now unremovable?🤔 Of course they're listening, especially if I'm seeing ads pop up consisting of the very things I talk about.
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@YoshiPeach Mario they do listen to us tho because let's say you have a conversation about an expensive jumper you wanted but you couldn't afford it if u were to turn on your phone theres a chance an add about that jumper would show up I know this cause it has happened to many times to me
It is a fact that every telephone conversation in the world is listened to and has been since before mobile phones existed. Software then sifts through the conversations looking for key words and eventually some of the calls are listened to by people and many more are saved. I even remember that fact being on the tv once in the '90s.
They're listening alright
What is there intension?
Did you watch the video or do any of your own research?
@@mariacirocas always, to make more money.
@flightlessboy4040 testing 4 phones in one app for one specific spike is not research. There can be a million other clever ways to gain the information.
Plus you have never taken a DNA test to see if your mother's you're mother right? The why do you believe it.
Because of loads of other information and evidence that is not put under a microscope.
In the way you think, that science and testing and research has all the answers is wrong and if you think it's right the you don't even know if your mother's your real mother. You've never tested it.
Well, they have gotten away with watching what we do on the internet, so why not listen in?
I'd say yes. My phone was off, I had it charging and I asked my wife something Google assistant then activated and answered. Eavesdropping,
It's definitely going on.
Marxam 66 why because some people can’t handle their phones ?
@@jaronmeshileichenbaum9934 Edward Snowden had everything to lose by revealing American surveillance techniques. We'd be fools to ignore him.
Some phones turn back on when they are charged. Maybe that’s it ?
@@shamelwatson7362 my Samsung doesn't, although many do.
Believe it or not, a few days ago I was talking to my brother about buying a treadmill, that night various treadmill ad started to coming on my Facebook and RUclips feed. I'm just speechless!!
I can say with certainty that I have never searched for a treadmill or anything about it before. I am 100% sure they r listening us all the time.
Last night a friend wanted to stay privately at my bnb. As I discussed these dates Air BnB sent a mobile request for themselves for these same dates within 90 seconds of our discussion. THis has never happened before as we are almost without bookings. UR correct.
But Facebook just ADMITTED that it transcribes data from Messenger AND passes the recordings to 3rd parties. The issue is not IF they're listening, but what they do with that data.
Mat Broomfield they collect it for youre own safety
@@jaronmeshileichenbaum9934 You're being sarcastic I assume?
Mat Broomfield no absolutely cereal
@Acticus Twaaticus lol
George Orwell
1984
Every time you speak into a telephone it is recorded. This is a fact.
Not quite. The storage required to record every call would be larger than any cloud solution could offer. However there is a list of monitored citizens.
@@LivingLifeSlower you don't understand, it listens to show ads and then the conversation itself gets deleted but the profile ad data of you does not
Problem is, the experiment phones were not "consumers" therefore of no interest to the dataminers. This is a great example of misinformation.
Only 4 phones??
I was talking about shoes and coffee with the phone off. Next thing I know I have a lot of commercials about SHOES and COFFEE.
Yes they fully are listening and know what your on, last week I like pockets by easylife (a song) and listen to it on RUclips and I went on Instagram this morning and a ad came up from easylife. Then this morning I also was listening to rover on RUclips, then went onto Instagram and was scrolling through stories and another ad came up, this time of the song rover. This is so random as it was released in November 2019 it’s now april 2020
Yes. This is perfect. That's what happening. They are listening. Such channels are purchased.
Short and obvious answer is duh
You cannot convince me that because of my past searches on homemade recipes it's now going to predict out of the blue what toothpaste brand I should buy.
It's definetly listening to our conversations. Something's going on, it's too crazy.
Definitely crazy. These smart phones, TV's, laptops are all just tracking devices.
Yes, the government is, and tracks everywhere you go, and you are paying for it.
From what I've seen on other videos investigating this, it's not individual apps that are listening. it's something separate on our phones that the companies then use to advertise to you. it looks like not all sites use it, but it's not just apps, so it's something separate that they are utilizing.
It’s the phones themselves.. no one reads the terms and conditions before pressing I accept
@@AlexGonzalez-ye9pc you really think even otherwise they're gonna say we listen to you on terms and conditions
A Friend said that he like guns and he wants a desert eagle
When I got home opened RUclips
The first video was about the gun desert eagle
If you read carefully t's and C's you can turn off personalized ads and at least feel like they are not tracking down everything we do
This morning I found a video recommendation which so happen to match a very specific topic that I had with my co-workers at work "The Indian Head Wobble". We spoke in great detail. I've never googled the topic before either through Google or on RUclips. My cell phone was on mute, and not on my body, but placed on the counter near by. I believe my phone was "listening" to the conversation. Seriously.
They are not "listening", as in native OSs like Android or iOS are not surreptiously turning on the microphones of your phones to record audio... because there are tons of independent security and privacy experts checking if this isn't being done all the time, and further, it's a very ineffective way of collecting data on people. It's not only a risk for the image of the company, though they always seen to escape unfazed when something does happen, it's just too costly and too ineffective when people are voluntarily giving away relevant and already filtered information all the time.
Audio recordings generates big files that would come at high costs for mass storage. For now at least, the math doesn't add up. Analysing random recording from people also doesn't pay off. It's too expensive and automated ways of doing it is not quite there just yet... but this is changing, and one day may become extremely profitable. Just be aware of that.
They are definitely listening in several other manners though, in ways you don't even realize. Every type of online purchase, credit cards registering every purchase you do and selling the data, ISPs tracking every website you visit and selling that info also, Google recording every search you do, going through every photo you backup, social networks monitoring every post you make, apps including ones made by those very companies leveraging any usage you do on them to collect and interpret information on you, this comment that I'm making, this is all being stored and either interpreted and recorded right now, or just set aside for later analysis.... that's entirely leaving out malware and spyware, we're talking only about legal stuff here.
If we open the illegal and exploitive can of worms, then all bets are off. Everything with a microphone could be listening on you. Specially Internet connected devices, but not limited to.
With all those different sources of information combined, plus research on averages and on characteristics of your demographic, you can make extremely accurate pictures about people. No one is as unpredictable as they think they are, and if you really is, who cares? Advertising networks only cares about the average, about selling more, about putting the right ads in front of the majority of people.
Oh, btw, if you are using a smart assistant, yes, they are listening in. Because then, there's a real logical economic motivation for it. It's to improve their voice recognition tech that gives them a leg up against the competition. And you are voluntarily letting your device microphone be open at all times, so there is nothing that can be done by security and privacy experts. You are letting it listen in to you because you want to. There is no way for a device to respond to your command prompt - Alexa, Hey Google, Siri, or whatever - without them listening in all the time. And none of the current major smart assistants work without being connected to some central server by the company that provides the service, so it's just out there, and you have to consider it out of your control - much like any other sort of thing you type or send through the Internet.
I've had multiple instances like this, however, I finally decided to look into it after today, I was watching a TV show, and a character made a joke about edible arrangements, no less than 20 minutes later, I get an ad for exactly that. Something which I have never even thought about or considered buying. Words I have never said using my own mouth. simply, an ad that is unrelated to any other advertisements I receive, something that could have only been known by listening.
It doesn't really matter if they are listening to us.
What can they possibly hear anyway
EVERYTHING? 💀
Why on earth are you playing advertisements to the phone instead of real-life talking? Your phone is going to think you’re watching TV or something.
Today a friend verbally recommended I search for an acoustic song video I'd never heard of. We were at work and I was busy so I promptly forgot the name of the song and as such never searched for it. Guess what? About six hours later it showed up in my RUclips feed. It isn't even a popular song. It's from 50 years ago, early 1970's.
Smart phones do listen to you and there is no doubt about it.
Corbett report 911. Building 7. New findings....,
Of course they are
I don't believe, somebody is still listening
Yes! And I thought this was common knowledge by now..
Just ditch all of your other devices and get a proper Samsung one if you need it, then install Lineage OS or cyanogenmod on it and never go back to the Google android which sucks.
Google is definately listening, I've had way too many coincidences especially with RUclips recomendations. A couple of days ago for example I was talking to my GF about an old 80s cartoon I sometimes watched as a kid called Ulysess. Neither of us went online searching for it at the time, she had actually never heard of it and until then I hadn't even thought about it for years let alone searched for it myself. But the very next morning I open RUclips and there amoungst all the usual reccomended videos related to things I watch is a video on Ulysess. A pretty big coincidence and it happens far too often considering the odds.
Exactly
I hope so I need witnesses right now
It's not the companies it's the government
it’s not the listening guys it’s the hereafter
Have they only just realised this have a conversation near your phone and it will start putting ads up in relation to your conversation.
If the phone responds to "hey siri" then of course they're always listening
Always listening but not necessarily storing the information.
ALRIGHT THIS IS CRASY!
I was listening to a podcast the other day that had a song in it and after i was done listening to it i went to youtube and clicked on a video. The ad on the video had the exact same song i had just listen to 1 minute ago. Is this something that is possible that the phone does. Does your phone listen to everything or was it just a huge coincedence. I have never seen that ad before and never after that first time. Please help!
Yes our cell phones listen to us and are tracking devices.
Bbc: creates informational video that debunks the majority of "your phone is listening to you" theories.
Comments under this video: "omg my phone is listening to me through this one off chance example!!!!!"
Yes they are...............
They know whats being played on your phone vs whats being said by a human being
Says government, corporate media
Who cares if phones are listening to us anyway, which they are because when you say “hey Siri” she pops up; but us as normal people aren’t important enough for the people listening to actually care what goes on to our day to day lives. I don’t get why people get so scared about this crap.
Of course they are listening
It's now listening to my thoughts
Alexa is not listening to you........ but starts listening when u SAY her wake up word......
Why doesnt Google Ads help me out when I search for 'bombs'?
There was a time when we were paranoid that our phones were watching us so users covered the front camera; manufacturers then opted for the Face ID feature instead of finger unlock.
All done for advertising, but I don't watch adverts and none show on my phone or laptop or tablet
I said ok google and instantly popped up
Once I was talking w my mother about some celebrity and the next day I get notifications from RUclips "the life of -" from someone I never watched before. I'll say yes.
I guess that we will have to agree to disagree.I still don't change my mind about the whole thing.
That research has to be the most flawed possible. Phones can tell the moisture from the fingers typing. They can manipulate electromagnetic signals to generate certain needs in the brain. The phone can even guess when it's user is sleeping. Come on now. Put these tech conglomerates into a box.
Listening & watching...get out of my life! I miss home phones & beepers
It's just your cookies, he must of had a webpage open at some point with this trainers and Instagram later retrieved that from his cookies.
of course
Guys If I Search up iPhone I Will Get IPhone Ads Simple
BBC are you on her side😡😡😡😡
Most ridiculous research I've heard of. The people carrying it out are a mobile security firm, If people suddenly stopped using mobiles because of security risks they'd be out of a job.
US said dont buy huwaei phones cuz China is using that to gather intel from various nations. Does that mean their iphones dont do the same? Im so confused which to trust 😔
Earl Ollsen trust no-one, especially a company that makes money. Your privacy interests and freedoms are not their concern, money is.
Well that’s a bad way to start the week.
Like why would they wanna hear an ordinary person like me? All I do is eat , sleep.😂😂 call my parents sometimes...
I know they are because i can hear y phone dialing whan i am on the phone.
Ninteen Eighty Four spoke of a large Telescreen listening to our conversations.... Well now we have our own listening devices.
Basic answer
No they’re not why tf would they listen
Yes our cell phones listen to us and they are tracking devices.
@@KericBurleson your paranoid
Your phones maybe, not mine, because i'm not stupid enough to be so trusting of big tech and government.
The answer is yes. Me and my wife will think or talk about something. Almost immediately it the items will pop up in our feeds without ever searching the item. To many instances to be coincidental.
Even when you think about something? Wow, they are really tuned in!
Even my phone too in japan
My phones listening
Heh they're obviously not sending audio data though. That would be too obvious. But taking transcripts and sending the tiny handful of bytes required to a data centre would be very easily hidden.
Garbage. My wife asked me one day who was going to go blueberry picking that afternoon, and the RUclips video I was watching immediately cut to commercial and advertised guess what? Blueberries. I'm ready to build a cabin in the woods and throw the technology away. Somehow they even managed to link my work computer searches to my wife's Facebook account. If you're not feeling scared or violated, you should be.
a text doc, 10pgs long takes less than 10KB... if I compress that doc, it shrinks down to 5KB.
if I take proper notes of your long talk with your doctor, I don't need 10pgs.
:} just a thought
hey i wouldnt snitch on my biggest customers either...good way to lose work...butter and bread
If the government is watching us isn't that a good thing ?
But in India it's happening if I talk about a movie then after if I open RUclips I see the same related suggestions
Don't trust that these studies are thorough enough or deep enough. Many developers are naive about this possibility. Google aps like RUclips together with an Android OS may indeed make eavesdropping-driven ad selection possible. It is not a mere "conspiracy theory."
I have so many times complaint that nobody pays attention to what I say... Does someone is really interested in listening to me now? :) :) :)
Absolute bullshit test. I know my phone listens to my conversations and pushes both advertisements and videos based on collected data.
The mear possiblity is enough to scare me. If there was an alternative to google, apple, facebook etc. I'd choose it. I dont want their shit.
ABSOLUTELY FALSE! You would be totally dumb to believe that a real voice data would be sent over to their servers. Anyone would notice this in no time on their data plan or whatever they are on. We have come so far with AI and speech recognision, cmon, phone itself just simply listens (or some hidden apps or whatever), and does speech recognision, highlighting the main key words. Then they are sent as a text of some kind, consuming almost zero data thus being not noticable. This is the ''all the other things'' apps use the data in background for. And they were called experts...
They clearly do. I can say anything and It’ll be on instagram within the hour even if it’s not been mention before
I'm 100% sure some one is listening.....nd they are using my conversation to harrass me mentaly...
Check this out. I quit shaving for a week on vacation and I started getting all these shave club razor ads. also ads for beard combs. I shaved and the ads went away. A bit creepy really
Wow
But of course. I personally not trying to hide tho. Use it. I HOPE Google is listening to me sometimes, I have some good ideas. I am not out to hurt Google and they need to know it.
Is this true, or did you hear the denial on the BBC?
can someone can write the sous titre please?
Isn't this a bit misleading? Sure we know our phones are most likely not listening to us in the background of our conversations, but the clip of Facebook hearing the question is if they use any of that audio obtained from phones. What do they do with the audio that is uploaded to Facebook via voice clips or videos? All the digital assistant companies are in hot water lately with contractors listening to voice data, but no one is asking for the full transparency of how companies use that data.
So even bbc is in on it 😂
US is wiretapping on your phone everyday
How does it appear on my wife's phone after I mentioned that I found a coat I liked out aloud and where it was from and then half an hour later it appeared on my wife's phone she has iPhone 12 Pro max and I have Samsung galaxy s21 ultra 5g and there is no way that should be possible but it happened
Mr yoworsky class
02:25 We can now predict what you’re interested in based on your past searches and past behaviors……that scares me😂
I feel like my phone listens to me but I guess I give enough information about myself in what I search🙈
I don’t believe this. It’s not conspiracy.
@ferkemall not sure what you mean. What I mean is that the phones are actually listening, for me it's not consipiracy theory. It happened to me a million times with facebook and youtube. As far as I know this study could have been paid by big tech companies.
Yes they are. Always.
One day me and my friend were talking about Mountain Dew and how it’s very unhealthy with the yellow 5 or whatever and literally the next day I started getting ads while watching RUclips videos about Mountain Dew for like a week straight and it even was on my instagram.