maybe should have gotten first -- seemed like more work went into it, perhaps more outstanding music, more platforming (not simple mini-games) ... but it was creepy, and perhaps "being enjoyable" is ultimately more important for a game, hence it got second.
@@AetheriusLamiayes, but you see, "being enojoyable" is a completely subjective index and therefore it's not well suited to be the core of any type of serious decision metric. Try to put yourself in the place of the creator, where the product of you toil was rejected by a mere matter of personal preference because your taste didn't align with the "collective" one, that would be quite frustrating. And yes, one could say that the creator "know what they were doing, and chose to produce a level like these despite knowing that many people would find it weird", however that is just an assumption. If the creator was actually ignorant about the possible reception that their level could have, by being bashed and penalized for their taste they would then learn an anti-lesson about limiting one's creativity in order to appeal to the public which is, quite frankly, sad.
I don't really get why every thinks it's so uncomfortable, it's just funny randomness. I don't see how this is any worse than something like Courage the Cowardly Dog.
It makes me think of when I was a kid and would spend an entire week hand-drawing a maze for a friend, but the start and end were directly connected. You could actually beat it by drawing a 1-inch line. But there was a hugely complex maze that was beatable all around it. To me this idea was fascinating, and it compares to the idea of finishing a genius romhack like this with a deliberately horrible "non-ending" where it falls on its face. It's just so hilariously deflating and subversive! But that's just me. I like weird isht.
Cursed as it may be, the mechanics in the last one were brilliant, and the music selection and execution were perfect! The first one was fun and hilarious. I love the fun ideas it brought! These definitely deserved to be #1 and #2!
Man this rom is SO creative and fresh ! It's such an interesting idea, and its so different from what we're used to with Mario world roms. Also, the music selection was pure heat. LOVE that concept
I think we'll see some indie games inspired by the mechanics of this hack in a year or two. It's a really creative blend of lateral thinking puzzle solving and platforming. The only trick would be to find a way to do it as an original IP, but surely there are people creative enough to find a way to do that. It's fantastic.
In the part after Mario is "unhanded", the pixely enemies with brooms are Rollercoaster Tycoon Handymen. It's a very "interesting" crossover for the sake of pun.
I absolutely DIED laughing when Paul McCartney's Temporary Secretary started playing after mario got his hands cut off. That hack maker is a freaking artist istg
referring to the science talk at the end. Someone once told me before, as you've said, that proving something looks better than disproving something. Now that one of the recent Physics Nobel Prizes (I think it may still be the latest one) was for disproving a long-standing assumption in Quantum, I hope that publishers start seeing the benefits of disproving things.
The music for the lava world at 15:10 is a remix of Hot Drinks, a song created for an old Wendy's training video. I STRONGLY recommend checking it out, it absolutely slaps.
37:32 it took a a while to figure out what these guys were , then i thought ,they're this guy's from rollercoaster tycoon, the sweeping guys ... no.. they're the HANDYMAN !!!
The idea of little mini challenges on the world map makes me think of Just Shapes and Beats. I don't know Carl's opinions on bullethells or rhythm games, and the music is probably not copyright safe for streams anyway, but it does fulfill that desire for "platforming", or at least creating a continuation of the main gameplay, on the world map, including a boss on the overworld even
@@CarlSagan42 Maybe you could try moving your facecam up a little and having like 5 or so lines of chat below it? Or have chat above your face? Personally I really enjoy seeing chat since it can give the same vibes as lurking in a stream (i.e. more inclusive than just watching a YT video). I think it might be worth a shot for a video or two and see how people like it, but obviously you're in charge and I'll watch either way
@@CarlSagan42 could you maybe alter the layout to have you and chat too the side, offscreen from the game. like you are here but altered to fit a widescreen game beside you? maybe thats not feasible due to MM being widescreen
@@CarlSagan42 There is actually a separate browser plugin called ChatReplay. I don't know how it's setup, but a speedrunner going by the moniker ZFG uses it to add twitch chat to his VODs that are uploaded to RUclips. You need to have said browser plugin to make use of the functionality, and I imagine only a small fraction would use it, but it would retain the fact that chat is still not present for people who prefer it that way, and people who want it could use the plugin and get what they want too! EDIT: thinking about it, I'm not sure if it would work with a cut and edited video, but figured it was at least worth a mention
@@RanEncounter You have 1 life when you finally reach the level in the overworld ROM Hack! Carl died to the enemy and game overed, forcing him to start the game over, but what happens if you don't die and beat that level?
@@gremlingirlsmell Ah, I see! It still does make me curious though, what would happen if you actually did beat the level, since beating levels could unlock something new in the overworld... I wonder if the dev's left a secret message or somethong if you cheated past that wall of munchers somehow 🤔
I thought there was no way the first one would be even close to matched, and it was. That second level may be silly but the way it plays reminds me of Braid. Super clever and I am genuinely amazed that people are building these for zero money.
I was so hoping the journey's end segment would have a thwomp come down from off screen at the top and kill Mario, that you'd have to run away from by going back down. Next years level creators, you know what to do.
27:00 chat member saying, "Help, it's again." I see you. Then when there's janitors from Roller Coaster Tycoon and someone said, "This reminds me of Mario's Mystery Meat." While Temporary Secretary is playing. This is a wild romhack... Why do I understand these references?
Oh hey, the song at around 37:43 is Temporary Secretary. Also, the hand walls/platforms look very similar to stuff from Mario's Mystery Meat, did they use the same tileset?
There's a strong resistance to publishing reverification of other studies too. That's supposed to be an important part of double checking work to guard against only publishing statistically significant results(which can lead to things that don't work looking like they do because 5% of the time it does by luck but if only those 5% are published then it gives a false impression of success).
Love the science bonus content. There is a lot to discuss about that particular subject. The bonus science bits were one of the draws for me. Silly fun and random facts at the end. Reminds me of some of the cartoons I watched in the 90s. Knowing is half the battle, Go Joe! 😂
That song you didn't know was Wendys Hot Drinks (but you probably know that now). 😂 This has a banger soundtrack between that and the Ice Cap Zone inspiration (Hard Times).
So, since Carl was in panic mode a lot of the time, I had to watch this video @1/2 speed so I could catch all the area titles that popped up. The music was prolly the most perfect vaporwave track I've ever heard.
The, Roller Coaster Tycoon custodian triggered some nostalgia in me. I played that game for far to long without knowing I could assign tasks and areas to them. It was always so fun to discover your park is disgusting and all 20 custodians are mowing the back 40.
I guess you would classify these hacks as "chocolate". They were still really cool, though. Thanks for the content, Mario and otherwise. You really helped my wife and I through COVID times, just in getting reliable info. Shit was scary. Thanks again.
Yeah, Ren&Stimpy was a good example of the cursed animation style. I also found it off putting, both the shows and the level. But it was creative enough that I'm really glad that you included it. Thanks!
We need mooore this is so awsome. I'm genuinly in love everytime I get to see another side of the Mario community, especially one with this much potential
Everyone has that kinda thing that they associated incorrectly as a kid. I always thought the rotating strobe light thing from SMB3 looked like a magical waffle.
Just to address the title, it may not be Mario, but there's a 2D platformer called Eryi's Action where there's a couple times you can die on the world map.
The main melody of the song that plays at some point (like around 13:00 for instance) sounds a ton like Ice Cap Zone from Sonic 3, I wonder if that's intentional
Found it. Thanks to twitch chat, I was tipped off it might be from Sonic CD which I absolutely loved as a kid. After digging a bit, I found it’s “Collision Chaos - “P” mix”. Hope it was bugging someone else too & hope this helps & brings back a fond memory as it did for me ☺️
Damn, didn't know the system around publishing papers was so messed up. I mean, science doesn't exist in a vacuum, but still sad to hear. We kinda live in a society. Cool ROM hacks tho
Carl, idk if you noticed but you only had 1 life on the first romhack so I think it was a joke that if you didn’t move right away you died in the level and had to restart because it was game over. Does anyone know if there was an actual end to the level?
Was it the fridge section that reminded you of Mario's Mystery Meat? I know that definitely made me think of it immediately. Edit: Ok I just watched further into the hands level, that is also very reminiscent of it lmao
at 14:50ish when the level starts playing a new music track, it's a midi version of that one meme fast food training video about making drinks. wendy's maybe??
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I love that Carl takes a bit to understand a mechanic, then he really gets it for a few minutes, then completely forgets about the mechanic
Just like all my favorite Mario rom hack let's players!
Average microbiologist
Bro I was like "how are you not getting how the stars work"
This is both amazingly hilarious and also suuuuper frustrating, lmao
Literally the reason I watch less, the charm of streamers pretending to be stupid for content wore off years ago
For as cursed and uncomfortable that last level was, it was incredibly well designed platforming.
maybe should have gotten first -- seemed like more work went into it, perhaps more outstanding music, more platforming (not simple mini-games) ... but it was creepy, and perhaps "being enjoyable" is ultimately more important for a game, hence it got second.
@@AetheriusLamiayes, but you see, "being enojoyable" is a completely subjective index and therefore it's not well suited to be the core of any type of serious decision metric.
Try to put yourself in the place of the creator, where the product of you toil was rejected by a mere matter of personal preference because your taste didn't align with the "collective" one, that would be quite frustrating.
And yes, one could say that the creator "know what they were doing, and chose to produce a level like these despite knowing that many people would find it weird", however that is just an assumption.
If the creator was actually ignorant about the possible reception that their level could have, by being bashed and penalized for their taste they would then learn an anti-lesson about limiting one's creativity in order to appeal to the public which is, quite frankly, sad.
I don't really get why every thinks it's so uncomfortable, it's just funny randomness. I don't see how this is any worse than something like Courage the Cowardly Dog.
It makes me think of when I was a kid and would spend an entire week hand-drawing a maze for a friend, but the start and end were directly connected. You could actually beat it by drawing a 1-inch line. But there was a hugely complex maze that was beatable all around it.
To me this idea was fascinating, and it compares to the idea of finishing a genius romhack like this with a deliberately horrible "non-ending" where it falls on its face. It's just so hilariously deflating and subversive!
But that's just me. I like weird isht.
Cursed as it may be, the mechanics in the last one were brilliant, and the music selection and execution were perfect!
The first one was fun and hilarious. I love the fun ideas it brought! These definitely deserved to be #1 and #2!
I agree with both. I want to see more done with both of those concepts, which is a brilliant sign.
Any idea where I can find the OST? Or at least the music during the "unhanded" section.
Man this rom is SO creative and fresh ! It's such an interesting idea, and its so different from what we're used to with Mario world roms.
Also, the music selection was pure heat. LOVE that concept
I think we'll see some indie games inspired by the mechanics of this hack in a year or two. It's a really creative blend of lateral thinking puzzle solving and platforming. The only trick would be to find a way to do it as an original IP, but surely there are people creative enough to find a way to do that. It's fantastic.
To whoever spent all the time putting explanations for all the symbols on maps,
You're a legend 🤓
Booooooooo! What a disgusting pun, I love it lol
You always stream when Im about to sleep :(
These jokes are off the charts!
So few people use maps nowadays that I'm sensing not many are getting this particular joke 🗺 😄
I don’t think I got the key to this joke. Can you navigate me in the right direction?
Wow... that was maybe the coolest concept for a mario world hack i've ever seen! And the execution was arguably even better! Awesome stuff! :D
Holy shit it's spesta's brother (REAL)
the gd community and its consequences
Hey pesta instead of making an unfuny joke I just wanna say thanks for your content, it's genuinely gotten me through hard times
Nepsta
In the part after Mario is "unhanded", the pixely enemies with brooms are Rollercoaster Tycoon Handymen.
It's a very "interesting" crossover for the sake of pun.
I noticed too, what the hell?? 😂
absolutely vile pun
5:36 That level being named "OH SH*T TURN BACK" is beautiful.
34:44 Literally the most perfect "Stay back Satan!" usage.
19:00 I'm loving the Shutterstock watermark on the bg
These mechanics are so damn clever, the level moving one could be its own game
honestly the first one was kinda crazy, didn't thing something like that was possible
I absolutely DIED laughing when Paul McCartney's Temporary Secretary started playing after mario got his hands cut off. That hack maker is a freaking artist istg
Wendy’s hot Drinks Import song is flawless, such a banger. I applaud the creator of the hack and song importer 👏
ruclips.net/video/_ZXeFPpPJeI/видео.html
I'm glad somebody else noticed it. As soon as it came on, I was very happy.
referring to the science talk at the end.
Someone once told me before, as you've said, that proving something looks better than disproving something. Now that one of the recent Physics Nobel Prizes (I think it may still be the latest one) was for disproving a long-standing assumption in Quantum, I hope that publishers start seeing the benefits of disproving things.
38:00 Never expected to see the cleanup staff from Rollercoaster Tycoon in a Mario ROM hack. IMPORTANT EDIT: THEY'RE HANDYMEN
44:10 and of course the editor had to change the music to mario n64 mockery of anti softlock
The music for the lava world at 15:10 is a remix of Hot Drinks, a song created for an old Wendy's training video. I STRONGLY recommend checking it out, it absolutely slaps.
37:32 it took a a while to figure out what these guys were , then i thought ,they're this guy's from rollercoaster tycoon, the sweeping guys ... no.. they're the HANDYMAN !!!
I love that the cursed level used "Temporary Secretary" by Paul McCartney :D
Honestly, a perfect fit :D
It was a surprise, but a pleasant one
The idea of little mini challenges on the world map makes me think of Just Shapes and Beats. I don't know Carl's opinions on bullethells or rhythm games, and the music is probably not copyright safe for streams anyway, but it does fulfill that desire for "platforming", or at least creating a continuation of the main gameplay, on the world map, including a boss on the overworld even
JSAB would be cool to see him play.
Oh my god as soon as temporary secretary started playing I freaked out
Both the world map and the moving background ones were really good and innovative!
I really like the addition of being able to see the chat. Would love to see this added in next videos!
There's no place to put it for mario maker except covering the game though...
@@CarlSagan42 Maybe you could try moving your facecam up a little and having like 5 or so lines of chat below it? Or have chat above your face?
Personally I really enjoy seeing chat since it can give the same vibes as lurking in a stream (i.e. more inclusive than just watching a YT video).
I think it might be worth a shot for a video or two and see how people like it, but obviously you're in charge and I'll watch either way
@@CarlSagan42 could you maybe alter the layout to have you and chat too the side, offscreen from the game. like you are here but altered to fit a widescreen game beside you? maybe thats not feasible due to MM being widescreen
@@CarlSagan42 There is actually a separate browser plugin called ChatReplay. I don't know how it's setup, but a speedrunner going by the moniker ZFG uses it to add twitch chat to his VODs that are uploaded to RUclips. You need to have said browser plugin to make use of the functionality, and I imagine only a small fraction would use it, but it would retain the fact that chat is still not present for people who prefer it that way, and people who want it could use the plugin and get what they want too!
EDIT: thinking about it, I'm not sure if it would work with a cut and edited video, but figured it was at least worth a mention
But what if you beat the actual level that you got at the end? Does the ROM hack still have something else if you beat the level?
How do you beat it?
@@RanEncounter You have 1 life when you finally reach the level in the overworld ROM Hack! Carl died to the enemy and game overed, forcing him to start the game over, but what happens if you don't die and beat that level?
when i played it, i checked with savestates, theres just a death wall at some point xD
@@Finnyan Again how do you beat it?
@@gremlingirlsmell Ah, I see! It still does make me curious though, what would happen if you actually did beat the level, since beating levels could unlock something new in the overworld... I wonder if the dev's left a secret message or somethong if you cheated past that wall of munchers somehow 🤔
I thought there was no way the first one would be even close to matched, and it was. That second level may be silly but the way it plays reminds me of Braid. Super clever and I am genuinely amazed that people are building these for zero money.
The sheer look of despair on Carl's face @39:54 sent me. XD
21:09 The elevator music from SNES Jurassic Park, nice!
Surprised nobody recognized it live, Jurassic Park is the best FPS on the SNES after all 🤣
I was so hoping the journey's end segment would have a thwomp come down from off screen at the top and kill Mario, that you'd have to run away from by going back down.
Next years level creators, you know what to do.
I watched Juz’s and Geek’s perspectives, and I was waiting to see if Carl would play these as well. Did not disappoint!
Not sure if it was said anywhere but for those wondering the one song playing around the 40 minute mark is “Temporary Secretary” from PaulMcCartney
Amazing song btw
Using "Collision Chaos (past version)" is VERY clever considering the context of the hamburger hell level.
Don't know why you might not have put this on youtube, but its presence is much appreciated!
27:00 chat member saying, "Help, it's again."
I see you.
Then when there's janitors from Roller Coaster Tycoon and someone said, "This reminds me of Mario's Mystery Meat." While Temporary Secretary is playing. This is a wild romhack... Why do I understand these references?
Oh hey, the song at around 37:43 is Temporary Secretary.
Also, the hand walls/platforms look very similar to stuff from Mario's Mystery Meat, did they use the same tileset?
Mario gets his hands sawed off and I'm too distracted by hearing the opening bars of "Temporary Secretary."
Been a while since we had a ROMhack video, much less a contest! Always nice to see the "cursed horrifying" stuff they make.
The Hamburger Hell intro cutscenes is basically the plot of most Kirby games
There's a strong resistance to publishing reverification of other studies too. That's supposed to be an important part of double checking work to guard against only publishing statistically significant results(which can lead to things that don't work looking like they do because 5% of the time it does by luck but if only those 5% are published then it gives a false impression of success).
Always great to see a warning. Especially when that warning says "Warning the following level is cursed"
Love the science bonus content. There is a lot to discuss about that particular subject. The bonus science bits were one of the draws for me. Silly fun and random facts at the end. Reminds me of some of the cartoons I watched in the 90s.
Knowing is half the battle, Go Joe! 😂
:)
From the cursed-ness of Mario Romhacks to the cursed-ness of science journals.
I know I've heard that song at 3:23 before and I have no idea where or when.
ruclips.net/video/mcT6kSkuWGo/видео.html
It's the Pokemon X/Y Boutique theme.
That song you didn't know was Wendys Hot Drinks (but you probably know that now). 😂
This has a banger soundtrack between that and the Ice Cap Zone inspiration (Hard Times).
Thanks for uploading the cursed level, it was great!
These levels were absolutely unhinged, and dare I say... Questionable
0:00
We need a SMW ROM hack where this is the theme song.
This is so cool and creative 😳 fun to see new concepts and ideas on Mario.
So, since Carl was in panic mode a lot of the time, I had to watch this video @1/2 speed so I could catch all the area titles that popped up. The music was prolly the most perfect vaporwave track I've ever heard.
In fact can anyone record this games soundtrack for me?
The, Roller Coaster Tycoon custodian triggered some nostalgia in me. I played that game for far to long without knowing I could assign tasks and areas to them. It was always so fun to discover your park is disgusting and all 20 custodians are mowing the back 40.
I really want to know what all of these songs are, some of them sound really familiar but I just can't place them.
What an amazing idea.
Carl: I want those coins.
Blinded by the *Shiny* even on the world map.
I didn’t expect to hear Temporary Secretary today, but here we are 💀
I guess you would classify these hacks as "chocolate". They were still really cool, though. Thanks for the content, Mario and otherwise. You really helped my wife and I through COVID times, just in getting reliable info. Shit was scary. Thanks again.
Thank you for uploading the cursed hamburger hell levels. They were pretty glorious.
Idk why but I thought my screen got glitched out at the start 😅
On one hand it was incredibly cursed, but on the other hand, incredibly, cleverly sinister! 😈
Yeah, Ren&Stimpy was a good example of the cursed animation style. I also found it off putting, both the shows and the level. But it was creative enough that I'm really glad that you included it. Thanks!
37:27 I cannot BELIEVE they used Jerry Temporary as the music here, wth
What's next? Take On Me?
THAT'S WHAT IT IS!! THNK YOU!!!
Why did Carl just stand still and waited for the death in the first level? He only had one life and got a game over :(
He was mesmerized by what he was seeing.
We need mooore this is so awsome. I'm genuinly in love everytime I get to see another side of the Mario community, especially one with this much potential
First one was delightful, second one was an attack on the senses.
Nice, it's been a while since we've had romhacks here
I always thought SMW bats looked like chicken nuggets as a kid, can't unsee the resemblance now
Everyone has that kinda thing that they associated incorrectly as a kid. I always thought the rotating strobe light thing from SMB3 looked like a magical waffle.
Just to address the title, it may not be Mario, but there's a 2D platformer called Eryi's Action where there's a couple times you can die on the world map.
aw i'm sorry you were so worried to upload the cursed level, i personally fucking loved every second of it!!
2:10 “what if you had platforming on the world map?”
5 minutes later:
Has platforming on the world map
Man these levels were so creative!
21:38 tbh that should have been game over right there
I was there live, and these two were certainly a trip to watch in person
I love the first one because it's an actual turn-based platformer
20:35 what’s a name of background music?
Popcorn
@@jhsevsthanks
what's the song that starts at 14:13? thanks in advance
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Hot drinks.... Wendy's training video. ruclips.net/video/_ZXeFPpPJeI/видео.html
The main melody of the song that plays at some point (like around 13:00 for instance) sounds a ton like Ice Cap Zone from Sonic 3, I wonder if that's intentional
Song is Hard Times by the Jetsonz
@@evbev4708 Huh! Thanks for the ID on the song, hilariously even the comments on the song point out how much it sounds like Ice Cap
The song at 25:04 is so familiar but I can’t place it. Help.
Found it. Thanks to twitch chat, I was tipped off it might be from Sonic CD which I absolutely loved as a kid. After digging a bit, I found it’s “Collision Chaos - “P” mix”. Hope it was bugging someone else too & hope this helps & brings back a fond memory as it did for me ☺️
Well Hello there, this is prolly the earliest i’ve started watcving a video in a while
Damn, didn't know the system around publishing papers was so messed up. I mean, science doesn't exist in a vacuum, but still sad to hear. We kinda live in a society.
Cool ROM hacks tho
that hands level was one of the best, hands down.
Some cool rom hacks nice.
Can't help but feel that the last level isn't cursed enough though...
I would've died laughing if the end had been Thwomp Suc.
These are some of the highest-effort shitposts of all time.
BTW the levels starts at 19:50
the build-up and pay-off for the first level definitely got me good. good shit, through'n'through 🤣
Man, that MIDI of the Pokemon X and Y boutique theme was fire
EDIT: so is that midi of The Jetzons Hard TImes
Never in a million years did I expect to hear the Wendy's Hot Drinks song in a mario romhack
I never hoped for you play this amazing hack since I saw it over at juz. So glad you did and especially how you could see your brain work
16:16 he just Blue-Scadooed right into that level
Carl, idk if you noticed but you only had 1 life on the first romhack so I think it was a joke that if you didn’t move right away you died in the level and had to restart because it was game over. Does anyone know if there was an actual end to the level?
I saw another comment that mentioned there was a wall of munchers a little ways into the level so there's no way to beat it.
Temporary Secretary is NOT what i expected from a Mario Hack
15:10 Somebody just did a chiptune out of that Wendy's training video, eh?... 😂
lol I was looking for this comment for too long
I'd love to see Carl play Mario's Mystery Meat.
Was it the fridge section that reminded you of Mario's Mystery Meat? I know that definitely made me think of it immediately.
Edit: Ok I just watched further into the hands level, that is also very reminiscent of it lmao
he needs to use the correct emulator to fully experience Sunday Stream
i like how they used Sonic theme for IceCap zone and another sonic theme from Sonic CD.
23:22 best I could find on the houses is they are part of a "weirdcore" quiz from years back... Still not sure who the original image creator is
Oh, I love Mario World rom hacks. Especially the ones with a sense of humor.
This level is a gaze into the between-worlds that push the boundaries of comprehension.
The level at 39:00 is really difficult to understand, I don;t know how you managed
at 14:50ish when the level starts playing a new music track, it's a midi version of that one meme fast food training video about making drinks. wendy's maybe??
I never thought I would see the overworld used liked this before.
What was the song carl was playing before he started the 2nd romhack? At 20:40
Is there a song list for all of the music in these rom hacks?
Is this the weird hand level music “temporary secretary” by Paul McCartney?