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£12,000 rewire Price breakdown
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As a customer this is what I want. I dont want day rate. If you want to work late or finish early for kids, not my problem. If you find hard brick or steel lintel, not my problem. So long as you finish on time I would pay same day as I am expecting it.
That does not make sense.
"If you find hard brick or steel lintel, not my problem", if something unexpected is found the job will take longer so will not be finished on time.
Tradesmen make far more money working to a price. A carpenter can make a wardrobe in a day, £300 labour and £200 materials, thats cheaper than Ikea, way below market rate, double that is market rate for off the shelf, so you will be quoted £1400.00 as it is bespoke.
There is so much work around due to the skills shortage and the big boys will quote £3500.00 even with their "50% off deal", take it or leave it or ask on a day rate.
NB I never work on a day rate
As someone looking to make the shift to finding my own work, I always appreciate you doing price-breakdowns
No such thing as too much CAT6!! 😁 Got singles in every room, feed in the attic, couple of ceiling drops and I've still ended up with multiple switches & doing a couple of DIY runs 😇
Man, on you're own. Ballsy fella. I'd be knackered with that on my own.
Great video, lovely and honest.
Be great to have a beer with you and discuss issues.
What you price is correct. These days, to be a sparky you've done the apprenticeship, paid loads extra in exams, paid your dues to whatever scheme you're with. Paid you're insurances.......
I don't know another profession that needs so much CPD just to work another week..... Great work fella. Keep doing what you do!
And lastly, how on earth can you get a pension, pay your mortgage, go on holiday and sort your kids for a better life when the numbers don't match.....!
Nice vid mate , You missed pricing in 10mm bonding cables unless there existing
This is very handy! I'm in the process of buying a place and it's quite likely I'll want to get a rewire before starting on decorating. Gives me a ballpark idea of what sockets actually cost!
Great video Nick. I’m new to electrical engineering and I understand how much can be involved and what things cost.
Love the honesty. 👍
Great video bud. Some of the prices seem a little conservative, cat6 to HDMI rather than bury hdmi as if customer chews the ends up it can be replaced easily👍 Don’t forget the cat6 from meter cab or cu for the solar and battery ct 👌🏼
That's a good shout with the cat 6 mate, I'm running back in tomorrow, so might stick a cap cable next to it just in case, and I am chucking to cat six is now across to the outhouse from everyone's comments off the last video. So thanks mate
Yup, never ever run HDMI in a wall unless it’s in conduit that you can pull a replacement through.
When we were heavily into audio visual we used to run a 40mm flex conduit with white brush faceplates so they can pull whatever combination of cables they could ever wish for through it:
When we installed distributed HDMI matrix systems they were always HD-BaseT Ethernet systems, normally always ran a dual Ethernet feed in case another trade damaged a cable, which we had a few times on earlier installs.
Also, if you’re running Ethernet to the outhouse, remember to get external grade, or even SWA Cat6 if needs be, we used that a few times for remote home office buildings.
Make sure you take a data cable over to the outhouse for the solar
That 8pm prime time upload. Tricks of the trade
I would like to know how you feel about someone running the wires in for you to cut the price down a bit I think you would be against it. due to the problems and overhead if anything goes wrong but in my case, I used to be an electronics engineer. doing huge work for M.O.D and dater centres for about 7 yrs who has run in 1000s of meters of cables including fibre and mains. so I have an excellent understanding of what I need to do but have never wanted to be a spark so am not certified to do my own electrics when it comes to a full rewire but I am very much a person who likes to do everything himself I would just like your thoughts on the matter?
Yes electrical has loads of the Earthsure cable in 👍
Can you not run a 3 core to the switch as that will give you live, neutral and switch wire
Why change the price on a single or double socket?
Surely it is because it is twice the size and requires more effort to install the back box in the wall.
@@garybaine8818 But it doesn't take significantly more time to install and he even said he doesn't like singles (I can't see the point either) so just charge the same which will encourage the customer to go for doubles as that's obviously a better deal.
I would charge more for DS they take longer and are a pain in the arse. Don’t understand anybody fitting singles
I find singles more of a pain to chop out.
Thanks for the price breakdown Nick. I guess as a customer I would want to understand how long the job would take as I’m guessing for most, people still have to live in the properties and this is very intrusive work.
What are people charging for a 3 zone fire alarm on a hmo?
why charge less for single sockets? same price in materials just 50mm less in the wall to knockout. i give customers the option & say they are the same price & they they always choose doubles
got to also remember different overheads for a 1 man band to a professional company with accreditations etc . wheras the 1 man in accredited guy will be mega cheap .. all depends on what standard the customer wants
Always appreciate the "real talk" videos! Don't worry about animations haha!
Testing my own understanding here: How long is the run on the 15mm SWA? Guessing the voltage drop is the reason for such a large cable on 40A?
12 sockets in the box office? the dude is running his own data-center or growing some green!
Is there a reason you take 50% before works begin. Wouldn't it be fairer system to charge customer for materials + your time in getting the materials before works begin. Then you can bill customer in stages of works completed i.e room by room. That way you're not at a loss if customer is a bad customer, equally customer isn't at a loss if you're a rogue tradesman(ps I know you're not rogue) I just think this way is completely fair for both.
I thought that you deregistered for VAT? what about the cost of the plaster bonding also testing? Do you not worry that other electrical contractors will not take advantage of you being open on your pricing.
Good breakdown but it's crazy how the demographic changes the price so much. In London I couldn't secure a 4 bed house rewire for £6k because there's people doing the same job for £3-4k. Always confuses me how they made profit 🤷🏻♂️
Not paying taxes, not using good materials, not sparks, just blagging it.
@@ryanfoley187 That and much more for sure
by doing s dodgy job and putting people at risk?
@@ryanfoley187what are good materials please
They make money by having apprentices or labourers doing the hard work
12 grand ??? what are you using gold wire ? Podolsk polak only charges two grand all in including artisan amounts of silicone
You have no idea how long it takes to video it all! 😂
@@TheWebstaff thats true i dont have a camera crew crew bus and catering for a rewire
Hi nick great video would also be good to hear what profit you make out of this also keep it up
As a home-owner I like these videos.
It makes me feel even better how much money I’m saving by doing all my electronics DIY!
(Joke)
Is it costly to add neutral wires to switches? Does it need to be all or could some just have neutral?
Another informative video Nick thanks 👍👍
£75 for double socket Nick… MK gear ??
Great video Nick! How much would you price for certificates ?
Hello Nick, can you please recommend the best value chasing tool?
12 double sockets in a box room sounds insane
Nice video Nick not too many mentions of Adams Mum are you feeling alright 😂😢😅😊
Hmm my comments aren’t showing up? Is there some sort of filter?
Just swear words mate I think Reply to my comment that might work
@@NBundyElectrical ah, will try again, thanks)
Nice vid, but please stop saying CO2 03:04 CO2 is what makes fizzy drinks fizz Carbon Monoxide is written as CO. Thanks Nick🙂
I've seen HETAS engineers still call it a CO2 alarm, seems like an easy mistake to make 😅😂
@@MarcusNailor Yes, it is an easy mistake, BUT if they are not told it is wrong, they will continue to be in error.
You'd win no work in the north east of england house bashers are 10 a penny . Good break down though thanks for the process
I priced a new socket at £70 all in with a mountain of chasing around a room (concreted floors below and tiled above) for a family friend and was told I was far too expensive. That’s the northeast for ya
No way is a single socket £10 cheaper than a twin, same amount of work and only penny's in material difference, I charge the same for both.
Single socket for the washing machine another single for the dryer.
As a none sparky who is looking to get my house rewired, why did the customer ask for a neutral to be ran to each switch? Is it for smart lighting?
Yes, mate, they did request it
@@NBundyElectricalthanks for the reply. I don't know much about smart lighting, but I think I'll ask for the same in the living room and dining kitchen, but I don't see the advantage in the bedrooms, bathroom or hallway.
Good video I’m a gas engineer interested why tradify helps with potential non payers
Interesting video Nick-
How much do you charge to bond the chases?
VAT, what do you think about reform saying they will increase the VAT threshold to £150,000
They can't because Northern Irelands limit it €100k euros and we have to be the same. Brexit, hmmmm
@@jamiebourne8047 They Can, because of Brexit. we no longer have to be the same.
@kentmccroskey3712 I believe it's still the case, that's why they could only increase to 90k this year and no more.
@@jamiebourne8047 your are 100% correct, so we have not really left the EU, they are still telling us what we can and can't do. like trade for example, they still dictate how we can trade. what was the point of Brexit if we didn't really leave, we need to complete the job. if we went back I can assure you we will be worse of than before, we would lose what little of our industry we have. we need to rebuild our industry and make the "Made in Britain" sign worth something again.
TLC direct stock the earth sure cable if you mind shopping elsewhere
Another excellent video. When you say Cat6, do you mean cat6a? Because 6a is a higher speed, might as well run the better cable? Thoughts?
same transfer rate - but 6a can transfer it over longer distance 100m
@@warnerpaul 6a is better at lots of things, hence the question. I'm hoping that he's using 6a, but I'm guessing it depends on the client.
Got a full re wire inc all switches/ fittings , for £1680 . ( only small house - 3 bed terrace ) don’t get robbed . Electricians get the kit for peanuts.
Well done for getting it that cheap, Hope the work was up to my standard because at the end of the day that is what you’re paying for knowledge and experience on the job, hope you got all certification and building control notification for your house insurance 👍
Many Years ago I priced sockets at $25 he wanted six it would have taken about 2 hours. It was a good price as there was a recession so probably half price at the time he asked how much per socket I said $25 then he said I will just take one, I laughed and refused the job. I was also charging 800 for rewire small house which was about half price.i also priced another 800 for alarm so I would make money as alarm only took me an hour.he found some one cheaper for rewire but I got the alarm job.i could not figure out how you could rewire house for 800 ,I found out the person did not rewire the house he just changed out the sockets, the owner wanted me to run the wires for electrical in the joists in attic as he wanted to put in floor I just laughed and told him to bring back person who put in the outlets
Demographic..area..london etc...cable is cable...screwing the costomer..../ if materails dear...buy up north...sell / install down south
Depends where I guess. I recall a Thomas Nagy video where he talked about the parking, and he’d just price in an extra £70 a day in London to pay the parking ticket he’d inevitably get on his van.
Though material prices do change by region, that's not the reason for a London job costing more than an equivalent Wigan job (for example).
All the other cost of living stuff means that the labour part inflates - fuel for travel, accommodation (whether a hotel or rent/mortgage), parking, the business' yard/unit/office. If it costs more to live somewhere, that means a labourer will require a higher wage to live there, so their wage will need to be higher, and that is reflected in the price per job of each job they job.
Even just your example of buying from the cheapest wholesalers you can find and transporting it to site, that takes someone taking the time to drive it there. If that's 4 hours away, immediately we have to cover 8 hours of work time for that. For a great example of this principle, try to get your courier of choice to deliver something to the Scottish Highlands - it will cost more, even though it's just a few hours up the road from Glasgow.
Nick I’m based in Liverpool but working on a job In Whitchurch. I could jump on with you if you want?
Available to give you a hand Nick
Price is king 👍
C0 not C02
12 000 ÷ 85 quid / hour = 141 hours = 17 days of work .... materials and labour + tax van food kaka etc .... and maybe you have to pay ànother worker..... im not sur on your quote but you should be at least 150 quid / hour..... Just a thought😮
I was confused when you said 'the customer requested that I run a neutral to every single switch' - is that not standard in the UK? It's been standard practice in Canada, and most of North America, for a couple of decades.
More people doing 2 plate wiring now. A lot of people still do 3 plate. Some people do a hybrid
Yeah it’s not the standard, traditional we do all the junction stuff in the pendant, makes senses until you cover the ceiling with Downlight like bad acne.
Just a note that if you were installing co2 detectors they would be going off non stop. Thats carbon dioxide
A old client quickly stopped me in my track's and said I thik you mean "Co" not Co2.
Dosnt sound as cool though does it 😂
Thanks for the vids
Co2 monitors are now a thing as high co2 makes you sleepy.
So you can open trickle vents.
@@TheWebstaff are these installed by electricians ? Never heard of them. Makes sense it would make you sleep though. Thanks for the reply
I meant carbon monoxide alarms 👍
Fml i shouldve been an electrician
👍👍👍👍👍👍
Nick serious question. I know you're too nice to ever say anything, but do you ever feel a bit let down that everything you done for Adam & for him to skedaddle as soon as he qualified was quite hard to take.
Quite the opposite to be honest mate, I pushed him to go self-employed and to get his homework so he can have more money and it gives me more free time to make RUclips videos, I'm super proud of him for what he's achieved so far
Who on earth is still getting cat cables fitted in. Your better of getting a mesh system that supports wifi 6e. Problem is laptops and portable devices are still connected wireless, so you can make good use of wifi 6e bands and you can move it to another house if you ever moved.
Wifi is still a hellscape. If you can wire it you wire it. If you are like me and have gigabit then my wired devices are properly able to take advantages of those speeds as most of my devices and I am sure that's the same with most too don't have Wifi 6e compatibility. I have a Unifi setup and its insanely good but wifi is still wifi and its still a PITA...
Nonsense, you’ll get much better and
more reliable performance with your APs wired. Madness to not wire them in during a refurb. Yeah I wouldn’t pull cat6 to every room, I’d prob take it to every TV tho as I tend to keep my WiFi security at the latest standards and often things like tvs won’t support it, it’s just less hassle to just plug the thing in.
@@edc1569 Yes but are you really going to be using the whole bandwidth all the time that you need maximum bandwidth. Unless your streaming and downloading 24/7, have a huge house or really care about latency, it is very very unnecessary. Modern wifi standards are now much more better and suit most cases, this is not 2005 anymore, especially with Wifi 7 around the corner.
How do you do POE over WiFi?
i wish i had Cat6 so i could plug my wifi6 enabled phone, and tablet into the wall🤣😂.
it will be like having a landline again🤙☎️,
bring back the good old days😂
(this comment will age well 📆⏰⏳)
How do you plug in your POE gear on WiFi?
@@TheWebstaff
im 100% wireless.
ill be honest, i havent used physical cable in about 20yrs, and im not about to take that retrograde step in 2024
i have around 25 devices all connected over wifi 6 to an ax-1100 (may seem expensive to some, but an ax82 can do the job for £100
most isps supply a wifi5 router which starts to lag after 8 devices begin a tug of war for bandwidth.
wifi6 gives all 25 devices 100% of my available bandwidth and is built to cope with 50+ devices.
why do people who run their own business think their customers are responsible for paying their high overheads.
Not sure they do, they’ve asked for a price from the person and it’s been provided then they have choice.
What a stupid comment. If the overheads didn’t get paid then there would be no business and the company would go bust leaving the tradesman skint 😂 tell me you know nothing about business without saying it.