Thanks doc! And please do a Trangia play list. I've got a 25, 27, Mini, and a triangle. I personally really like buying directly from Trangia, the price is the same if not better, you know what you're getting, and I like to support a company that makes such great stuff. We all know you're not in this for the $, so it really means a lot that you are taking the time to do all the testing that you do and share it all with us. Thank you again.
Love the lighthearted ending to this one Ernie , as for the product its clearly Trangia's effort to drill down on size to create an ultra compact system for boiling enough water to make a hot drink or soup. However It could have been far more interesting had they made it more premium from Titanium with a lockable handle smaller Ti burner or Ti puck container , having never been a fan of aluminium for boiling water or cooking food this one stays in the amazon warehouse for someone else to buy.
I bought the Trangia Mini after your review. ( yes, you are an enabler! ) It has become my favorite cook kit. I could not help but compare it to my MSR Stowaway Seagull 775ml pot which had been my primary cook pot for many years. One thing I missed with the Trangia Mini cook kit was a replacement for the second half of my MSR Seagull cook kit, the MSR Seagull 445ml cook pot. I found the 445ml pot to be used almost as much as my 775ml pot. It was perfect for the single cup of coffee, grits, oats, rice, lentils etc. I replaced it with the .6 liter Trangia Kettle. While I like my Trangia kettle, I do not much like cooking in it. It was single handedly the reason I started eating instant grits, rice, and oats. When the .5 liter Trangia T-Cup became available I bought one immediately. I am very fond of it. I am again eating real food! I agree that the Trangia Mini is a much more versatile cook set, and I would not want the T-Cup to be my only cook kit, but I personally find the T-Cup to be a worthy addition to my kit. Granted, I only cook for one, but having the .5 liter cup to make that cup of coffee, or the side to my main dish while my main dish is cooking is very worthwhile. BTW, I very much enjoy your channel, my outdoor experience is greatly improved because of it. Thanks for introducing me to Trangia, Firebox Stove, and The Hidden Woodsmen!
A good honest review. The reality is even though you won't be using this unit... you've got one! All that matters is The Rule. The Rule states; 'whoever dies with the most toys... wins." You will win the stove category, I'm sure of it.
I agree with you Ernie, It’s to small and the mini isn’t much heavier. If you want a good alternative to the large bottle fire gel try (if you haven’t already) BBQ lighter gel. It works well too and comes in larger bottles.
Hi Ernie. I own Trangia T25, T27, the T28 Mini, mess tin and now the Micro UL Red button 😍 I use it for pouridge and Coffee early morning, when all my main gear already packed away. I've got the wool insulating things for it as well as the pouch. I flip the Handle upwards, when on the stove. I think they are much more price competitive here in Skandinavien compared to US products. Love your channel. Greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰 /Thomas
Just love these kitchens. A Optimus No:91 served me in my military. In extreme wind, rain and snow for a year down to -25 celcius sometimes. The burner with fliud inside i kept in my jacket so it was preheated when it was very cold outside.
I have to agree that there just isn’t enough bang for the buck on this one. It beats boiling water with hot rocks….but if you had to make a burnout bowl, you would make a larger one than the micro pot. As for the fire gel, I think that maybe a response to the UK criminalizing hexamine for the Crusader cup stoves and the good old Esbit stove. See also SAK that offer models without knife blades.
I watched the video because I don't have any Trangia products and have been trying to decide if I want some. I'm not a lightweight backpacker - any hiking I do are day hikes and would probably be considered 'walks' by most hardcore hikers. That said, because I'm not doing long hikes I usually just carry a haversack, belt pack ir day pack. I also like to have lunch while I am out so a small setup that fits well in a small pack along with a little food, water and 'just in case' emergency items interests me. I will say that there are cook/mess kits (without a stove) available at Walmart (I know - some people probably just cursed me) - in their Ozark Trail brand - that used to be made of aluminum but were upgraded to stainless steel a few years back and the design was improved a little. These kits come with a small, folding frying pan, a pot with bail that, although quite small, would still hold more than the pot in this video, a 7oz, plastic measuring cup and, covering the frying pan and keeping everything else together in the pan when it is folded up, a small, stainless steel, deep plate/shallow bowl. The price has gone up, recently but the kit is still less than $10. The pan does have the same type of non-locking handle as the pot you showed. Personally, although one would still need to buy the Trangia spirit or gel burner and buy or make a pot stand, that seems like a better value, to me. I usually use a small, gas stove but see some, possible advantages to a Trangia in some situations which is why I am interested in Trangia focused videos.
Depends what you intend to do with the stove - water, food. The unique advantage of Trangia is it goes from plain boiling water to carefully controlled simmering so you can cook real food. If you only intend to boil water it is overkill. Based on your words it seems like you shouldn't be looking at Trangia but a Ti small pot (375-450ml) a basic Alcohol burner+stand, use your other existing kit (e.g. your daysack) as windshield and a small 60ml fuel bottle. To light the fuel carry a ferrorod and use the knife you should already have.
Thanks Doctor Ernie for the review. I thought about picking up the mini or the micro, but decided to go with the Toaks 750 ml titanium and a Toaks Titanium Siphon Burner. Lighter, larger, and more efficient.
The Toaks POT-700-D115-L is shallower/wider 90g, the Toaks POT-750 is heavier 103g and less tolerant of wind. Alcohol burners are more easily distracted by wind. Also have the Siphon, it's a good water-boiling stove, the Trangia burner is more of an all-rounder with the simmer ring. I have both, depends on the food intended to cook. Trangia's own pots are wide+shallow and not heavier than Ti as they know an alcohol flame prefers to meander under a wider pot.
Love your shirt. My son is a poli-sci/pre-law student at Baylor. Sic em The reality on pots, even ultralight, is that 750ml really is the minimum capacity if you're eating rehydrated meals on trail.
Thanks, I enjoy your reviews. I like my T- Micro, and nest it inside to expand capability of my Mini kit. Can’t snap on the frypan, but: pan down first, protective insert, then pot, and nest the spiritburner- potstand in micro pot, and the lid clips on top. I also got the plain version micro pot/cup, for use with gel burner in daypack and solo overnights. About gel fuel, I’ve found “Sterno Green FireStarter” is available locally, and works okay.
Good review Ernie! Fixing the handle is easy. Wedge a small stick under the pot lip and inside the curve of the handle. Just make sure it is tight. This is the same remedy that fixes GI messkit handles from way back when. Our Grandads were clever when it came to go arounds.
I’ve got all the Trangia sets and many others, and for me this is the perfect size for coffee in the woods. I really like the form factor. I use the Mini for minimal cooking and the larger sets for ”real” cooking. The handle is non-locking, but after half a year of use, that hasn’t been any problem at all. Of course, this (the T-Cup) could also used be used with gas, as a small canister fits inside. But as you said - everybody has different needs when it comes to equipment. And that’s why it’s good to have options.
As always, a fair and accurate review. Go, Baylor. Not liking how much gel is left behind so I would prefer sticking with alcohol. The airplane engine sounded like it was a Continental O-470-R, probably in a Cessna 182, carrying a pilot, 2 passengers, and a large dog. You’re welcome.
Fully agree the mini is a lot more versatile. I still get that Trangia wanted something in their lineup for the "ultra light" crowd who just want to boil some water for their freeze dried meals, but I think most of those people would be happer with a titanium pot and a small canister stove. To me, the whole point of using Trangia's systems is that you can actually cook real food (even with the mini!), and that you let it take a bit of time. Especially with the spirit burner. Peace and quiet and just enjoying good food in the great outdoors. That said, I'm still excited for other recent Trangia product developments. Got the new "Storm" Gas Burner this week, which is now actually manufactured here in Sweden, has a slightly higher output (2300W) and comes with a wool sleeve. Every single part of it can also be ordered separately as a spare, which is super cool. It's still just available in the EU though... There's also an article (in swedish) on the Trangia website where they interview one of their product designers who confirmed an upcoming Hard Anodized (HA) version of the Trangia Mini!
Agree! Bought one just too check it out. Never used it after that. Titanium pot (750ml or 900ml) will do the same but better. I much prefer the Trangia mini or why not the Trangia triangel with the pot of choice. Great video as always!
I think the Micro is aimed for mountain marathons, which are obligued to carry cooking equipment on competitions. I agree the Mini might be a better option for hiking.
Fun video, especially the crazy noises at the end. I think you hit the nail on the head in this one. The mini is way more versatile. Thanks for the great videos. If I could subscribe twice, I would.
I honestly don't mind it but I only use it for rice and such usually teamed up with my mess tin or stick burner, I only bought the pot and gel burner (which I don't use) as I already have a mini. Worse part of the micro is the plastic on the handles gets a little bubbly with the flames licking around the pot in a mild breeze
I always enjoy your videos. My biggest gripe with this set and the mini is the pot-stand/wind screen. I do not think it is at all effective as a windscreen ,and a bit heavy/clunky as a pot-stand. I use both of these sets with the triangle, and for me it seems to work better. Also I tilt the handle up while on the flame to keep from melting the handle cover. YMMV. P.S If Trangia made a pot about this diameter with about 1.5 times the capacity, that had a locking handle similar to the Stanley adventure pot. then they would have a winner.
Man, I just enjoy watching your videos to see what new goodies are out there that I am unaware of. I purchased the Nitecore headlamp recently using your link. I don't know if you read your comments as I personally have never seen a reply, however as a predominately Paleo fellow who also has a fascination with stoves and gear; I would be interested to see more paleo cooking videos on equipment you test in the field. It might not fall into your process/format but I do think it would be interesting. Also, I don't see so many on how people clean their gear in the field after cooking. Personally, I just use an alcohol wipe in the field if I am coming home the same day and give it a good scrub at night. However, sanitizing is really important.
I’ve got one of those pot supports and don’t care for it. Mainly because of the four support spots, my pots/pans never sit flat and wobble. A minor thing maybe but it bugs the crap out of me. I much prefer the ones with three supports.
The mini is near perfection for my use even though I don't have one. I have the fry pan, sold separately, and a six inch pot, with a knock off burner. I'll probably try the Lixada aluminum burner after this one goes to shave off a few ounces. Might be good for a thru hiker or something. That's too small for even a total bag boiler.
Nah. Too small for either coffee or a morning ramen, which would be the only reason I’d add another burner. Your reaction to the plane overhead made me laugh😂
Yes I agree with your findings to better save the money for something else. The main reason to not to select this kit is for me that the pot would be a bit too small for my uses. Else I don't have so much of complaints. The missing pouch isn't an issue for me as I have many unused ones. Also the handle wouldn't be so much of a red flag for me as it makes it just a bit uncomfortable but I have also other pots with similar handles and could always manage (e.g. just use chopsticks or a spoon to keep it straight if you pour something out). That said, I would like to add that the stove stand could also be used with Hexamine and the gel burner can also be used with alcohol, means there is a bit more of functionality or variety if required.
Another con is that the Micro's (and Mini's) wind shield is pretty useless in my experience. I have the Mini and use a tiny twig stove as a wind shield which when collapsed fits in to the pot.
Yes, I have put some aluminium foil in the mini cook set to try to make the windshield a bit better. The other problem is that it will scorch any grass underneath it.
Thank you for sharing. As with the 28 Mini Hard Anodised and in Titanium would be nice options Micro with a locking handle essential, again in Titanium not stainless steel, can't be beyond their capabilities. And the pot stand is not a windshield, nor can you fully utilise the regulator, so a redesign needed there which will benefit the Mini too. Hay Ho £30 in UK so a premium price.
Love your vids, Ernie. Watched them all. Not sure but I think this is my first comment on yours. The pot holder is a copy of the Redcamp Never seen someone copy Chinese...usually the other way around. The top bends to hold the cup....my mod on the Redcamp pot holder are to needle file two slots on the little teeth and then laying three brass or steel rods in a triangle. Holds the Stanley cook set pot or the GSI stainless or the Ozark Trail cup. That Trangia pot holder is just wasted gilders. The Trangia spirit burner, of course, needs the China mods. Add the simmer wire handle. The pot, add a locking collar like an Opinel. Strip of 1" wide aluminum bent into a circle and then cut wide enough to fit that handle. To use, simply open the handle and rotate the collar. A steel ruler would work. Great vid, sir! Btw, you do know you can replace your own handles for the red color, right? Lol!
On second watching, how about just popping the handle off and round rat tail file a notch in the bottom of the handle attach tab on the cup? Squeeze the handle down tight and reattach it. Upon opening, it will snap into the new notches and lock it in place.
I'm glad I got the very last of the stainess steel original Swedish Army meskits; everything included--- beefier orignal spirit burner, windscreen. All fits together. I stripped the camouflage paint off it and restored it to like new condition. Lovely, and the original (mid-20th Century) best solution for expedient cooking. But alcohol stoves are the last resort in expedient methods because they are potentially dangerous. My first question watching this is, "Can the gel be used in the original burners?"
I love my Trangia 27. Small, light, configurable and versatile. For myself I don't see value in buying a smaller commercial product. If all I want to do is make a coffee on a day hike a cat can stove and a cup deal with that. Anything more interesting and there's no point not jumping straight to the 27.
I've been eyeballing that kit for several months now, but i can't justify it's existence in my collection. I just want one because it's got that big "T" stamped on the burner. The addiction is real.
Thanks for the video. I have the Triangia Mini, 27 , 25. The Mini has the issue with alcohol the flame is so keen to meander in any kind of wind it's easily able to burn you / your tent, the Trangia burner is too wide for that Mini stand+windshield+pot combo. However the Toaks Siphon may be more tolerant of wind? Wonder if a Mini Trangia kit but replacing their burner with a Siphon may be better combo? May be too hot a flame to cook so only boiling.
Great review! 👍 Candid and sensible. It is nice but yes, it's big and there's many better options to consider. My kit is a Soto Amicus(no big removable legs), a 750 Toaks pot with the long, Toaks titanium spork. I have a couple alcohol stoves including one I made from cat food cans BUT...I really don't camp in weather so cold that I can't use Isobutane, so this the system I always pack.
Really too small to be practical as anything but a "brew kit" for making a cup of coffee, tea, soup, etc. on a day hike. I agree that the mini would be a better choice for cooking on a longer trip.
It’s absolutely beautiful 😂😂😂😂 bought mine for a day hike coffee maker or to rehydrate my freeze dried lunch at which this excels! Now you know the handle doesn’t lock it’s no longer a problem 😂 Great video as usual, all the very best from across the pond in deepest Dorset 👍🇬🇧🇺🇸
Yeah, cant even make a pot of ramen, since you need two cups of water. I bought that little windscreen for another project, which I've yet to finish ;) Would Fire Dragon fuel work well with that cup?
🤔 .. I am not sure that it is that bad a buy. I have the 28 Mini into which I have 'stacked' a smaller Aluminium Bowl plus Accessories and then the whole lot into a Stainless Steel One Litre 'Quechua' Pot from Decathlon (the short and wide one). Together (when required) with an 18cm Tatonka SS Bowl, this gives me a cook set that meets practically all of my cooking needs .. and still not too heavy to boot. That Micro can be stacked into a larger, taller pot (the Quechua one Litre SS Pot .. the taller, narrower version comes to mind .. I have it). That should also make for a pretty versatile cook set. I currently use my One Litre Quechua Tall / Narrow Pot as a holder for two Aluminium Camping Bowls, Tuna Can Burner Holder .. for a Soda Can Burner, Folding Wire Tripod, Windscreen made from Beverage Cans, BIC Lighter and Matches, Folding Spoon and a Wash Rag. Works very well and thus I have no need for the Micro. The Tatonka Bowl is always hovering in the background, hoping to be invited to come along 😏. Always a pleasure Ernie, watching your posts .. for perhaps not always being in the market for new gear, but also for the lateral thinking and subsequent ideas they often generate. Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
I have used that pot support and the spirit burner with a 1 qt titanium pot. It was all I needed for summer backpacking. Looks like the pot is the weak point in this system.
People rave about Trangia because they’re glued to outdoor RUclipsrs who conveniently skip the part where they spend 20 minutes scrubbing that aluminium mess, burning through half their daily calorie intake. Let’s be honest: Trangia gear, including their so-called ‘non-stick’ range, is a complete nightmare unless you’ve got a river or lake nearby to provide the gallons of water you’ll need to clean up after every meal-unless you’re just boiling water for freeze-dried food. You’re ALWAYS better off with something like the GREY-coloured version of the GSI 'Soloist' or 'Dualist' (NOT the stainless steel one). It’s actually non-stick and comes with a bowl and pot lid that doubles as a sippy mug for hot drinks. Seriously, NEVER go long-distance hiking with stainless steel or uncoated aluminium pots or pans unless you’ve got a river next to your campsite or plan to stick to just boiling water.
This is the first time I hear someone has a sticking problem with Trangia. have had trangia for decades now . the nonstick versions really work, so I'm guessing thats not the ones you mean cause they work really well. Which I hear is not the case with titanium, they are a true nightmare to clean. Even so I think the non-non-stick work quite well cleaning when preparing like a stew. Are you referring to some special kind of food?
I have the aluminum, duossal, and nonstick. I carry the 27 kit with the smaller duossal pot and the larger non stick pot so the non stick is protected when packed up. Never had any issue with the non stick.
The biggest complaint with the micro is that the handle protective cover starts to melt because the flame comes up around the edge of the pan. Stupid design. I have found various issues with Trangia products I don’t think their engineering is all that great in many ways. Trust me.. they ain’t all that hunky-dory. Anyways, if you get one of these, and you don’t wanna burn your handle, very simply, raise the handle up into a straight vertical position until it boils. As far as that handle coming loose while pouring the liquid out, I haven’t had any issues with mine in that respect. But I agree 100%, the mini is the better value. I like this one because it’s small enough to add to my kit. When I cook on a mini, I need both the pan and the pot. There’s usually food in both, so this micro is very nice for boiling up hot water for a cup of tea, a cup of coffee, or if I wanna make some bannock bread, I like to use warm water to make the dough. In these aspects, I find it an advantageous piece of kit because it’s lightweight, it has a nice little cover to help boil water faster, and it’s not that big of a deal to add to my kit.
The gel stove really is ridiculously pointless considering any number of other containers that would suffice, boot polish tin being one of them. Seriously folks the only thing cooler than Swedish kit is Swiss kit, and the Notkocher should be your go to for gel stoves being refillable and you can stuff that in a small pot too.
As such it doesn’t fit, as the hight of the Micro is somewhat larger. But after quick testing it seems that when you remove the handle and the lid of the Micro pot (called T-Cup) you can fit it inside the Mini. But you have to store the small pot gripper somewhere else. But this could be a handy way to pack two pots and one frying pan into a Mini. Quite cool
It feels cheap… It also feels wobbly. I don’t like wobbly and tippy because I’m kind of a mishaps person. You don’t mess around with flammable liquids…😮 I use a Trangia Triangle kit for its stability and quietness.😊 I would suggest that anyone using this stove to set it on three small stones for stability
@@clivenewton7609 I’ve looked at this one since the initial rumours about it (when it had the stubby welded aluminum handle) and thought it would be a nice little piece of gear. I guess the big issue is it doesn’t offer anything more than an alcohol stove and a cup offers so if u own those there is no compelling reason to get one. If you don’t own those though, definitely something to consider. It’s a nice looking unit though.
You can buy the pot separately also without handle, so its doable 😃 And also remove the handle, if you want. But in practice, the handle is not a problem, so I wouldn’g do it.
I took it over the mini be cause the mini frying pan is useless for me. I need it to boil some water for tee or coffee while hiking or biking i usually have the small Swedish foldacup's with me and the micro allows me to boil water for up to 3 servings in those. And since I only use it with the spirit burner it never gets dirty on the outside so I have no problem with just packing it back in to my drybag (no extra storage needed)
Gonna edumakate you a bit, Ray. Lol! Old shirt, I like canvas Goodwill and $1 scrubs. Cut off the leg or the arm and turn it inside out. Sew across the bottom. Turn right side out. Instant cookware or stove bag.
@@JohnH-rd3xy I agree. I build all my 16th century clothing out of the canvas paint clothes from Home Depot, shirts and pants from canvas and build all my leather possible and shooting bags from elk, deer and bovine leather. Crown Royal bags are handy… but… I don’t drink, just have good friends who do
@raytribble8075 SCA, Ray? Same here but more mountain man rendezvous these days. We used $50 worth of assorted shopmedvet scrub pants turned into rave hats for a niece's Brownies sleep over. Added black light spray with cookie cutter designs. Whenever I find wool blankets, I pick them up. They become wool shirts, hats, socks, blanket coats etc. Tons of good ideas I'd love to share!
One of my favs was a brown leather skirt I picked up for $3 at Goodwill. Got a few weird looks. It became a really nice set of two belt pouchs. I've bought leather chairs and made viking (Scot highlander but close enough) shoes. Buy belts and make period straps and bracelets etc.
@@JohnH-rd3xy same here on Rendezvous… I lived in Wyoming for almost half of my 64 years on this Earth. As a hobby gunsmith and retired CEO… getting is touch with the past and building my flintlocks by hand… gets me closer.
I have two REDCAMP Chinese Trangia knock-offs with their potholders, and I love them. They can take a small (500 ml) to medium (900 ml) pot, and they're pretty stable. This system seems a bit wonky, mostly b/c that handle doesn't lock. Thanks for the review. Gonna Pass.
That product seems too small. Now, if you get suckered into having a tea party with your 5 year old daughter that includes her “imaginary friends “, then this pot might have some use….. lol
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Thanks doc! And please do a Trangia play list. I've got a 25, 27, Mini, and a triangle. I personally really like buying directly from Trangia, the price is the same if not better, you know what you're getting, and I like to support a company that makes such great stuff.
We all know you're not in this for the $, so it really means a lot that you are taking the time to do all the testing that you do and share it all with us. Thank you again.
Love the lighthearted ending to this one Ernie , as for the product its clearly Trangia's effort to drill down on size to create an ultra compact system for boiling enough water to make a hot drink or soup. However It could have been far more interesting had they made it more premium from Titanium with a lockable handle smaller Ti burner or Ti puck container , having never been a fan of aluminium for boiling water or cooking food this one stays in the amazon warehouse for someone else to buy.
I bought the Trangia Mini after your review. ( yes, you are an enabler! ) It has become my favorite cook kit. I could not help but compare it to my MSR Stowaway Seagull 775ml pot which had been my primary cook pot for many years. One thing I missed with the Trangia Mini cook kit was a replacement for the second half of my MSR Seagull cook kit, the MSR Seagull 445ml cook pot. I found the 445ml pot to be used almost as much as my 775ml pot. It was perfect for the single cup of coffee, grits, oats, rice, lentils etc. I replaced it with the .6 liter Trangia Kettle.
While I like my Trangia kettle, I do not much like cooking in it. It was single handedly the reason I started eating instant grits, rice, and oats. When the .5 liter Trangia T-Cup became available I bought one immediately. I am very fond of it. I am again eating real food!
I agree that the Trangia Mini is a much more versatile cook set, and I would not want the T-Cup to be my only cook kit, but I personally find the T-Cup to be a worthy addition to my kit. Granted, I only cook for one, but having the .5 liter cup to make that cup of coffee, or the side to my main dish while my main dish is cooking is very worthwhile.
BTW, I very much enjoy your channel, my outdoor experience is greatly improved because of it. Thanks for introducing me to Trangia, Firebox Stove, and The Hidden Woodsmen!
A good honest review. The reality is even though you won't be using this unit... you've got one! All that matters is The Rule. The Rule states; 'whoever dies with the most toys... wins." You will win the stove category, I'm sure of it.
I agree with you Ernie, It’s to small and the mini isn’t much heavier. If you want a good alternative to the large bottle fire gel try (if you haven’t already) BBQ lighter gel. It works well too and comes in larger bottles.
All said and done,,,,
The non-locking handle is a Dealbreaker for me,,,, Excellent video Ernie,,,, thanks for buying one for the Team,,,,
Hi Ernie. I own Trangia T25, T27, the T28 Mini, mess tin and now the Micro UL Red button 😍
I use it for pouridge and Coffee early morning, when all my main gear already packed away. I've got the wool insulating things for it as well as the pouch.
I flip the Handle upwards, when on the stove. I think they are much more price competitive here in Skandinavien compared to US products. Love your channel. Greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰
/Thomas
Just love these kitchens. A Optimus No:91 served me in my military. In extreme wind, rain and snow for a year down to -25 celcius sometimes. The burner with fliud inside i kept in my jacket so it was preheated when it was very cold outside.
I have to agree that there just isn’t enough bang for the buck on this one.
It beats boiling water with hot rocks….but if you had to make a burnout bowl, you would make a larger one than the micro pot.
As for the fire gel, I think that maybe a response to the UK criminalizing hexamine for the Crusader cup stoves and the good old Esbit stove. See also SAK that offer models without knife blades.
I watched the video because I don't have any Trangia products and have been trying to decide if I want some. I'm not a lightweight backpacker - any hiking I do are day hikes and would probably be considered 'walks' by most hardcore hikers. That said, because I'm not doing long hikes I usually just carry a haversack, belt pack ir day pack. I also like to have lunch while I am out so a small setup that fits well in a small pack along with a little food, water and 'just in case' emergency items interests me.
I will say that there are cook/mess kits (without a stove) available at Walmart (I know - some people probably just cursed me) - in their Ozark Trail brand - that used to be made of aluminum but were upgraded to stainless steel a few years back and the design was improved a little. These kits come with a small, folding frying pan, a pot with bail that, although quite small, would still hold more than the pot in this video, a 7oz, plastic measuring cup and, covering the frying pan and keeping everything else together in the pan when it is folded up, a small, stainless steel, deep plate/shallow bowl. The price has gone up, recently but the kit is still less than $10. The pan does have the same type of non-locking handle as the pot you showed.
Personally, although one would still need to buy the Trangia spirit or gel burner and buy or make a pot stand, that seems like a better value, to me. I usually use a small, gas stove but see some, possible advantages to a Trangia in some situations which is why I am interested in Trangia focused videos.
Depends what you intend to do with the stove - water, food. The unique advantage of Trangia is it goes from plain boiling water to carefully controlled simmering so you can cook real food. If you only intend to boil water it is overkill.
Based on your words it seems like you shouldn't be looking at Trangia but a Ti small pot (375-450ml) a basic Alcohol burner+stand, use your other existing kit (e.g. your daysack) as windshield and a small 60ml fuel bottle. To light the fuel carry a ferrorod and use the knife you should already have.
Thanks Doctor Ernie for the review. I thought about picking up the mini or the micro, but decided to go with the Toaks 750 ml titanium and a Toaks Titanium Siphon Burner. Lighter, larger, and more efficient.
The Toaks POT-700-D115-L is shallower/wider 90g, the Toaks POT-750 is heavier 103g and less tolerant of wind. Alcohol burners are more easily distracted by wind.
Also have the Siphon, it's a good water-boiling stove, the Trangia burner is more of an all-rounder with the simmer ring. I have both, depends on the food intended to cook. Trangia's own pots are wide+shallow and not heavier than Ti as they know an alcohol flame prefers to meander under a wider pot.
This is a fair review and glad you didn't cut out the ending.
Love your shirt. My son is a poli-sci/pre-law student at Baylor. Sic em
The reality on pots, even ultralight, is that 750ml really is the minimum capacity if you're eating rehydrated meals on trail.
Thanks, I enjoy your reviews. I like my T- Micro, and nest it inside to expand capability of my Mini kit. Can’t snap on the frypan, but: pan down first, protective insert, then pot, and nest the spiritburner- potstand in micro pot, and the lid clips on top. I also got the plain version micro pot/cup, for use with gel burner in daypack and solo overnights.
About gel fuel, I’ve found “Sterno Green FireStarter” is available locally, and works okay.
Good review Ernie! Fixing the handle is easy. Wedge a small stick under the pot lip and inside the curve of the handle. Just make sure it is tight. This is the same remedy that fixes GI messkit handles from way back when. Our Grandads were clever when it came to go arounds.
Good suggestion, however the product should have a locking mechanism included
I’ve got all the Trangia sets and many others, and for me this is the perfect size for coffee in the woods. I really like the form factor. I use the Mini for minimal cooking and the larger sets for ”real” cooking. The handle is non-locking, but after half a year of use, that hasn’t been any problem at all. Of course, this (the T-Cup) could also used be used with gas, as a small canister fits inside.
But as you said - everybody has different needs when it comes to equipment. And that’s why it’s good to have options.
As always, a fair and accurate review. Go, Baylor. Not liking how much gel is left behind so I would prefer sticking with alcohol. The airplane engine sounded like it was a Continental O-470-R, probably in a Cessna 182, carrying a pilot, 2 passengers, and a large dog. You’re welcome.
Fully agree the mini is a lot more versatile. I still get that Trangia wanted something in their lineup for the "ultra light" crowd who just want to boil some water for their freeze dried meals, but I think most of those people would be happer with a titanium pot and a small canister stove.
To me, the whole point of using Trangia's systems is that you can actually cook real food (even with the mini!), and that you let it take a bit of time. Especially with the spirit burner. Peace and quiet and just enjoying good food in the great outdoors.
That said, I'm still excited for other recent Trangia product developments. Got the new "Storm" Gas Burner this week, which is now actually manufactured here in Sweden, has a slightly higher output (2300W) and comes with a wool sleeve. Every single part of it can also be ordered separately as a spare, which is super cool. It's still just available in the EU though...
There's also an article (in swedish) on the Trangia website where they interview one of their product designers who confirmed an upcoming Hard Anodized (HA) version of the Trangia Mini!
Mini is small enough , improve the windshield and it would be awesome, micro not great at all , rubber on the handle can melt as well , nice viddy 👌
Agree. Better take the Mini.
Agree! Bought one just too check it out. Never used it after that. Titanium pot (750ml or 900ml) will do the same but better.
I much prefer the Trangia mini or why not the Trangia triangel with the pot of choice.
Great video as always!
Thanks for the great vid Ernie! I love trangia products - the 25, 27 and the mini, but your review of the micro is spot on. Keep up the good work bro.
I think the Micro is aimed for mountain marathons, which are obligued to carry cooking equipment on competitions. I agree the Mini might be a better option for hiking.
Fun video, especially the crazy noises at the end. I think you hit the nail on the head in this one. The mini is way more versatile. Thanks for the great videos. If I could subscribe twice, I would.
I honestly don't mind it but I only use it for rice and such usually teamed up with my mess tin or stick burner, I only bought the pot and gel burner (which I don't use) as I already have a mini. Worse part of the micro is the plastic on the handles gets a little bubbly with the flames licking around the pot in a mild breeze
I enjoy the Trangia Mini, makes more sense to have the pan for very small weight penalty
I always enjoy your videos. My biggest gripe with this set and the mini is the pot-stand/wind screen. I do not think it is at all effective as a windscreen ,and a bit heavy/clunky as a pot-stand. I use both of these sets with the triangle, and for me it seems to work better. Also I tilt the handle up while on the flame to keep from melting the handle cover. YMMV. P.S If Trangia made a pot about this diameter with about 1.5 times the capacity, that had a locking handle similar to the Stanley adventure pot. then they would have a winner.
Man, I just enjoy watching your videos to see what new goodies are out there that I am unaware of. I purchased the Nitecore headlamp recently using your link. I don't know if you read your comments as I personally have never seen a reply, however as a predominately Paleo fellow who also has a fascination with stoves and gear; I would be interested to see more paleo cooking videos on equipment you test in the field. It might not fall into your process/format but I do think it would be interesting. Also, I don't see so many on how people clean their gear in the field after cooking. Personally, I just use an alcohol wipe in the field if I am coming home the same day and give it a good scrub at night. However, sanitizing is really important.
I’ve got one of those pot supports and don’t care for it. Mainly because of the four support spots, my pots/pans never sit flat and wobble. A minor thing maybe but it bugs the crap out of me. I much prefer the ones with three supports.
I'm going to hold out for the angstrom
I am not planning to get this product, but always enjoy watching your videos!
The mini is near perfection for my use even though I don't have one. I have the fry pan, sold separately, and a six inch pot, with a knock off burner. I'll probably try the Lixada aluminum burner after this one goes to shave off a few ounces. Might be good for a thru hiker or something. That's too small for even a total bag boiler.
Nah. Too small for either coffee or a morning ramen, which would be the only reason I’d add another burner. Your reaction to the plane overhead made me laugh😂
thanks for the honest and detailed review
Yes I agree with your findings to better save the money for something else. The main reason to not to select this kit is for me that the pot would be a bit too small for my uses.
Else I don't have so much of complaints. The missing pouch isn't an issue for me as I have many unused ones. Also the handle wouldn't be so much of a red flag for me as it makes it just a bit uncomfortable but I have also other pots with similar handles and could always manage (e.g. just use chopsticks or a spoon to keep it straight if you pour something out).
That said, I would like to add that the stove stand could also be used with Hexamine and the gel burner can also be used with alcohol, means there is a bit more of functionality or variety if required.
Another con is that the Micro's (and Mini's) wind shield is pretty useless in my experience. I have the Mini and use a tiny twig stove as a wind shield which when collapsed fits in to the pot.
Yes, I have put some aluminium foil in the mini cook set to try to make the windshield a bit better. The other problem is that it will scorch any grass underneath it.
Thank you for sharing.
As with the 28 Mini Hard Anodised and in Titanium would be nice options
Micro with a locking handle essential, again in Titanium not stainless steel, can't be beyond their capabilities.
And the pot stand is not a windshield, nor can you fully utilise the regulator, so a redesign needed there which will benefit the Mini too.
Hay Ho
£30 in UK so a premium price.
I read somewhere that a HA version of the 28 (and Micro) is one its way soon.
Love your vids, Ernie. Watched them all. Not sure but I think this is my first comment on yours. The pot holder is a copy of the Redcamp Never seen someone copy Chinese...usually the other way around. The top bends to hold the cup....my mod on the Redcamp pot holder are to needle file two slots on the little teeth and then laying three brass or steel rods in a triangle. Holds the Stanley cook set pot or the GSI stainless or the Ozark Trail cup. That Trangia pot holder is just wasted gilders. The Trangia spirit burner, of course, needs the China mods. Add the simmer wire handle. The pot, add a locking collar like an Opinel. Strip of 1" wide aluminum bent into a circle and then cut wide enough to fit that handle. To use, simply open the handle and rotate the collar. A steel ruler would work. Great vid, sir! Btw, you do know you can replace your own handles for the red color, right? Lol!
Mucho grammar mistakes in that one. Sorry, guys! Never figured out how to edit a post.
On second watching, how about just popping the handle off and round rat tail file a notch in the bottom of the handle attach tab on the cup? Squeeze the handle down tight and reattach it. Upon opening, it will snap into the new notches and lock it in place.
I'm glad I got the very last of the stainess steel original Swedish Army meskits; everything included--- beefier orignal spirit burner, windscreen. All fits together.
I stripped the camouflage paint off it and restored it to like new condition. Lovely, and the original (mid-20th Century) best solution for expedient cooking.
But alcohol stoves are the last resort in expedient methods because they are potentially dangerous.
My first question watching this is, "Can the gel be used in the original burners?"
I love my Trangia 27. Small, light, configurable and versatile. For myself I don't see value in buying a smaller commercial product. If all I want to do is make a coffee on a day hike a cat can stove and a cup deal with that. Anything more interesting and there's no point not jumping straight to the 27.
I've been eyeballing that kit for several months now, but i can't justify it's existence in my collection. I just want one because it's got that big "T" stamped on the burner. The addiction is real.
Thanks for the video. I have the Triangia Mini, 27 , 25. The Mini has the issue with alcohol the flame is so keen to meander in any kind of wind it's easily able to burn you / your tent, the Trangia burner is too wide for that Mini stand+windshield+pot combo. However the Toaks Siphon may be more tolerant of wind? Wonder if a Mini Trangia kit but replacing their burner with a Siphon may be better combo? May be too hot a flame to cook so only boiling.
Another great review. I agree the mini is a more versatile solution.
Great review! 👍 Candid and sensible. It is nice but yes, it's big and there's many better options to consider. My kit is a Soto Amicus(no big removable legs), a 750 Toaks pot with the long, Toaks titanium spork. I have a couple alcohol stoves including one I made from cat food cans BUT...I really don't camp in weather so cold that I can't use Isobutane, so this the system I always pack.
Thanks !!
It would boil a bit faster with the lid fully closed, however the Doc needs his thermometer 😊
It's so cute. I already the little already.
Ty, good honest review
Really too small to be practical as anything but a "brew kit" for making a cup of coffee, tea, soup, etc. on a day hike. I agree that the mini would be a better choice for cooking on a longer trip.
That’s the whole point!!😂😂😂 it’s a BREW kit or to rehydrate freeze dried food😮
It’s absolutely beautiful 😂😂😂😂 bought mine for a day hike coffee maker or to rehydrate my freeze dried lunch at which this excels! Now you know the handle doesn’t lock it’s no longer a problem 😂 Great video as usual, all the very best from across the pond in deepest Dorset 👍🇬🇧🇺🇸
Good review, thanks for sharing, YAH bless !
You remembered to link the other videos, yeah !😇🤣
Yeah, cant even make a pot of ramen, since you need two cups of water. I bought that little windscreen for another project, which I've yet to finish ;) Would Fire Dragon fuel work well with that cup?
🤔 .. I am not sure that it is that bad a buy.
I have the 28 Mini into which I have 'stacked' a smaller Aluminium Bowl plus Accessories and then the whole lot into a Stainless Steel One Litre 'Quechua' Pot from Decathlon (the short and wide one). Together (when required) with an 18cm Tatonka SS Bowl, this gives me a cook set that meets practically all of my cooking needs .. and still not too heavy to boot.
That Micro can be stacked into a larger, taller pot (the Quechua one Litre SS Pot .. the taller, narrower version comes to mind .. I have it). That should also make for a pretty versatile cook set.
I currently use my One Litre Quechua Tall / Narrow Pot as a holder for two Aluminium Camping Bowls, Tuna Can Burner Holder .. for a Soda Can Burner, Folding Wire Tripod, Windscreen made from Beverage Cans, BIC Lighter and Matches, Folding Spoon and a Wash Rag. Works very well and thus I have no need for the Micro. The Tatonka Bowl is always hovering in the background, hoping to be invited to come along 😏.
Always a pleasure Ernie, watching your posts .. for perhaps not always being in the market for new gear, but also for the lateral thinking and subsequent ideas they often generate.
Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
Can you use the gel in the spirit burner?
No one expects the mosquito / airplane combo-attack! I wonder if you alcohol gel has an additive to make the flame visible?
I have used that pot support and the spirit burner with a 1 qt titanium pot. It was all I needed for summer backpacking. Looks like the pot is the weak point in this system.
People rave about Trangia because they’re glued to outdoor RUclipsrs who conveniently skip the part where they spend 20 minutes scrubbing that aluminium mess, burning through half their daily calorie intake. Let’s be honest: Trangia gear, including their so-called ‘non-stick’ range, is a complete nightmare unless you’ve got a river or lake nearby to provide the gallons of water you’ll need to clean up after every meal-unless you’re just boiling water for freeze-dried food. You’re ALWAYS better off with something like the GREY-coloured version of the GSI 'Soloist' or 'Dualist' (NOT the stainless steel one). It’s actually non-stick and comes with a bowl and pot lid that doubles as a sippy mug for hot drinks. Seriously, NEVER go long-distance hiking with stainless steel or uncoated aluminium pots or pans unless you’ve got a river next to your campsite or plan to stick to just boiling water.
This is the first time I hear someone has a sticking problem with Trangia. have had trangia for decades now . the nonstick versions really work, so I'm guessing thats not the ones you mean cause they work really well. Which I hear is not the case with titanium, they are a true nightmare to clean.
Even so I think the non-non-stick work quite well cleaning when preparing like a stew. Are you referring to some special kind of food?
I have the aluminum, duossal, and nonstick. I carry the 27 kit with the smaller duossal pot and the larger non stick pot so the non stick is protected when packed up.
Never had any issue with the non stick.
Watching the video, it appears that the gel fuel caused the pot to soot up. How bad was the pot to clean?
A very niche product, and I think it will only appeal to a small number of people.
And for that price, you could put together a much more useful kit.
Please Ernie dont say such painfull truths :( hahaha thanks for being honest ❤️
The biggest complaint with the micro is that the handle protective cover starts to melt because the flame comes up around the edge of the pan. Stupid design. I have found various issues with Trangia products I don’t think their engineering is all that great in many ways. Trust me.. they ain’t all that hunky-dory. Anyways, if you get one of these, and you don’t wanna burn your handle, very simply, raise the handle up into a straight vertical position until it boils. As far as that handle coming loose while pouring the liquid out, I haven’t had any issues with mine in that respect. But I agree 100%, the mini is the better value. I like this one because it’s small enough to add to my kit. When I cook on a mini, I need both the pan and the pot. There’s usually food in both, so this micro is very nice for boiling up hot water for a cup of tea, a cup of coffee, or if I wanna make some bannock bread, I like to use warm water to make the dough. In these aspects, I find it an advantageous piece of kit because it’s lightweight, it has a nice little cover to help boil water faster, and it’s not that big of a deal to add to my kit.
The gel stove really is ridiculously pointless considering any number of other containers that would suffice, boot polish tin being one of them. Seriously folks the only thing cooler than Swedish kit is Swiss kit, and the Notkocher should be your go to for gel stoves being refillable and you can stuff that in a small pot too.
Will the micro fit in the mini ???
As such it doesn’t fit, as the hight of the Micro is somewhat larger. But after quick testing it seems that when you remove the handle and the lid of the Micro pot (called T-Cup) you can fit it inside the Mini. But you have to store the small pot gripper somewhere else. But this could be a handy way to pack two pots and one frying pan into a Mini. Quite cool
It feels cheap… It also feels wobbly. I don’t like wobbly and tippy because I’m kind of a mishaps person. You don’t mess around with flammable liquids…😮
I use a Trangia Triangle kit for its stability and quietness.😊
I would suggest that anyone using this stove to set it on three small stones for stability
I would give you thumbs up, but the button is covered, and not accessible. Weird, it's like that across four browsers as well.
Luke over at The Outdoor Gear Review also recently reviewed this cook set , but the liquid alcohol burner. Both are garbage.
sounds like it's just a water boiler for dehydrated meals or a coffee only.
Hooray! Got it in one, that’s exactly what it’s for which it excels at👍
@@clivenewton7609 I’ve looked at this one since the initial rumours about it (when it had the stubby welded aluminum handle) and thought it would be a nice little piece of gear. I guess the big issue is it doesn’t offer anything more than an alcohol stove and a cup offers so if u own those there is no compelling reason to get one. If you don’t own those though, definitely something to consider. It’s a nice looking unit though.
So, no review for the product per se, just that it didn't fit your usecase?
Hello Ernie. Thanks for spending your hard earned money on this product. Great video. Poor application product.
Even though I'm a Trangia fan, I have to agree. This Micro UL is a miss. Thanks Ernie.
A lot of your videos cost me money. This video saved me money. Maybe hey should skip the handle and include the potholder from the Mini.
You can buy the pot separately also without handle, so its doable 😃 And also remove the handle, if you want. But in practice, the handle is not a problem, so I wouldn’g do it.
You can get a whole mini set of cookware in the children’s toy section of Walmart.
A lot of freeze dried or dehydrated meals require 16 ounces of boiling water. The Trangia Mini pot is just too small.
I took it over the mini be cause the mini frying pan is useless for me. I need it to boil some water for tee or coffee while hiking or biking i usually have the small Swedish foldacup's with me and the micro allows me to boil water for up to 3 servings in those. And since I only use it with the spirit burner it never gets dirty on the outside so I have no problem with just packing it back in to my drybag (no extra storage needed)
It looks like a child's toy cookset 😊
Nope, too small. MSR Alpine plus a Trangia every time.
I have scrambled eggs and fried bacon cut up in mine
The gel fuel was filthy. I'll take the Trangia with that fuel it had that burned way cleaner.
I am the same way about a carrying case… but then again… that is why God invented Crown Royal bags
Gonna edumakate you a bit, Ray. Lol! Old shirt, I like canvas Goodwill and $1 scrubs. Cut off the leg or the arm and turn it inside out. Sew across the bottom. Turn right side out. Instant cookware or stove bag.
@@JohnH-rd3xy I agree. I build all my 16th century clothing out of the canvas paint clothes from Home Depot, shirts and pants from canvas and build all my leather possible and shooting bags from elk, deer and bovine leather. Crown Royal bags are handy… but… I don’t drink, just have good friends who do
@raytribble8075 SCA, Ray? Same here but more mountain man rendezvous these days. We used $50 worth of assorted shopmedvet scrub pants turned into rave hats for a niece's Brownies sleep over. Added black light spray with cookie cutter designs. Whenever I find wool blankets, I pick them up. They become wool shirts, hats, socks, blanket coats etc. Tons of good ideas I'd love to share!
One of my favs was a brown leather skirt I picked up for $3 at Goodwill. Got a few weird looks. It became a really nice set of two belt pouchs. I've bought leather chairs and made viking (Scot highlander but close enough) shoes. Buy belts and make period straps and bracelets etc.
@@JohnH-rd3xy same here on Rendezvous… I lived in Wyoming for almost half of my 64 years on this Earth. As a hobby gunsmith and retired CEO… getting is touch with the past and building my flintlocks by hand… gets me closer.
Hate aluminum for cooking.
It looks to be too small, lacking versatility.
I have two REDCAMP Chinese Trangia knock-offs with their potholders, and I love them. They can take a small (500 ml) to medium (900 ml) pot, and they're pretty stable. This system seems a bit wonky, mostly b/c that handle doesn't lock. Thanks for the review. Gonna Pass.
I unfortunately bought it. Not happy with it
buy yourself a regular pot or pan from dollar general and make your own burner store from items at dollar general.
That gel tin is one of the worst things I ever bought and trangia should be ashamed to release such product, any other tin is much stronger than this
That product seems too small. Now, if you get suckered into having a tea party with your 5 year old daughter that includes her “imaginary friends “, then this pot might have some use….. lol
Not for me, too small, I want at least 16 oz for coffee, shy away from bare aluminum (but not anodized) due to possible health risk.
You should change the name of this channel to "The shitty outdoor equipment commercial", or maybe "outdoor commercials for idiots with money".
Bad design on the handle.