Swede here, Since the early 80s I have used the Trangia cookers when on hikes/camping, perfect if you do a 10 day trek in northern Sweden, I am a regular in and around the Helags glacier, and my newest Trangia is the 27
Also whilst I’m on a roll I know that Alcohol stoves generate much debate on whether they’re lighter or heavier options compared to a gas stove but for me when I hike I like to keep things simple and I’m not interested in rushing everything. An alcohol stove is slower but so is the pace of life and who doesn’t want that in the back country, it’s part of the point of being there at least for me. I could take my jet boil or the pocket rocket and basically rip the air apart when I light them up, but I prefer to be quiet and peaceful and wait a little for my coffee.
Lid on always, save fuel and boils quicker, logical. 😊 brought a Alpkit windshield to keep the crazy movement of the flame, and I agree the handle should be melt proof.
Yeah, hard to believe that someone with his experience would even think about boiling water in a pot without a lid. Waste of time and fuel, as you've said.
From Scandinavia here. I think there was a bit of misunderstanding the product, resulting in a somewhat unfair test here. Great to hear you're safe and well and recovering. All the best
Trangia makes good stuff usually, I have the 2 person storm cooker set, and although it isn't as fast as a gas stove, it still boils water way faster than this micro set. This micro set looks really cheap, nowhere near the quality of their storm cooker sets.
I would hardly call boiling without the lid on “ideal conditions” … also no mention of the lid when talking about factors which influence the boil time?
At 11:56 it was stated that higher altitudes will increase boil times. It actually is the opposite. Water will boil quicker the higher you get, but at a lower temperature.
2 mistakes: 1. Never smash the match into the alcohol stove. This avoids that the stove burns correctly 2. Always put the lid on the pan, water will boil much faster. Trangia isn't as bad as it may appear in this video.
Just buy the Mini. When I saw this kit I knew the Mini would just be better. It weighs a little bit more, but the pot is larger and it comes with a non-stick pan as well. Yes the wind shield and burner holder does not block wind very well, so you have to pick a good spot when cooking your food. I've had mine for nearly 10 years now and never had an issue. I've cooked tons of meals on it and yes, it's slow. But it is quiet and taking 5-10 mins longer to make your meal compared to the people who bring gas stoves is really not a big deal. We are rarely if ever in a hurry when out on a hike. Also, this test was not a test done in "ideal conditions". Ideal conditions would be a spot completely out of the wind and with the pot lid on, you lose a surprising amount of heat to the air when you don't use the lid. On a hike two years ago, we did a 3 nighter and hiked to the second tallest mountaintop in Norway. My Mini was used to cook my meals for all 3 days. Hot chocolate in the morning, boiled water for freeze dried meals, cooked a simple meal from dried meats and instant mashed potatoes, made pancakes on the small frying pan on day 2 etc etc.
Thank you for this review 👍🏻 In my opinion, it is not necessary to explicitly mark 3/4, 2/4 and 1/4 of 500ml. I think it is enough to put a mark. Personally, I find it amazing to get a product, produced in Sweden, for such a low price. I believe we should keep in mind that this burner system was invented and developed by Trangia and copied by many companies. Kudos to Trangia for this, I would never buy a copy. Hope you can understand my point of view, I really appreciate your reviews and cheers, Martin 🤜🏻🤛🏻👋🏻
Another RUclipsr called PaleoHiker gave a similar review. I think Trangia, although they make other good products, missed the mark on this one. Thanks for the review. I hope and pray that you and your family are continuing to stay safe in such difficult circumstances.
I ordered a Trangia 37 not a 27, it's a special edition in all black and came with non stick pans and a gas burner and alcohol stove. very happy with it
I bought the gel version and use solid fuel in it, it works well enough. The plastic handles did melt but trimming off an inch made the problem stop. The 28 mini is a better value.
I see a lot of people using the mini on youtube, but hardly any using the micro. The pot holder/windscreen doesn't do either job well, and that's hyper critical with alcohol. I think cooking on it, as far as the stove, works quite well. I've made pancakes on it and they're hard to do, but that's with the frypan for the mini. I like the design of the stove because you just leave the leftover alcohol in the stove. Super easy not pouring it back into a container. I bought the frypan separately for 10 dollars. Well worth it so far. No problems with the no stick surface. Alcohol is actually better to cook on because the heat is distributed better on the surface. Simmer ring works fine. You really only have about 2 or 3 settings with it, but it's enough. Best off just to buy the stove and the frypan, but the mini is an adequate deal. Throw away the stand and make a shield out of aluminum flashing.
I’m quite happy with my Micro, although the stand doesn’t work as a full windshield. When I want to be fast when brewing my coffee, I’ll pick my Toaks 550 & PocketRocket DLX set, but half of the time I just want to enjoy the silence and for those occasions this had been a good and compact set.
My first alcohol stove was an original Swedish military issue Trangia, it's still a favorite. It's heavier than modern hiking gear, but like all military surplus gear, it's super rugged, and I'll be able to pass it down to the grandkids.
Caldera cone is lighter and more efficient if you are boiling water for freeze dried meals. My Jetboil burner wouldn’t work on a cold spring morning. Glad I brought my diy cone
The 'windshield' only works in a draft free shed. It is really just a stove stand with pretentions, like the mini trangia, on which the system is based. A folding windshield would dramatically improve the performance of this stove.
From South Africa the trick is to file a notch at the top uf the 4 points of the stove support, 2 opposing notches deeper than the othe two. Lay 2 pieces of wire across the top, then it will accommodate a smaller cup. The wire cross pieces protrude +- 70 mm on each side of the potstan,d. Bent over @ 90 deg so they don't slip sideways. I've got the mini which has the same potstand The 2 deeper notches are obviously 1 wire thickness deeper
What? Why all that work? Just put a Cross stand on the Trangia and the knockoff and /or use the Evernew Ti Stove and knockoff with or without the cross stand.
@@nickcasolino8903 because here in South Africa we only have the option of inventiveness not 5000 different gear options, so, over time, we get hellish clever
@warren6899 No. That's in the US. Here, in Canada, we use our brains. We don't carry 1001 gismos to boil water. We use a lighter to build a campfire for cooking and for heating. Just one item
@@nickcasolino8903 gotit ! Like I said, we only get imited Chinese junk, so we also get inventive... I'm a modest collector of vintage camp stoves & cookware... my coffee kit is either a gaz globetrotter self modded for a 190g cannister, or a Dakota firehole depending on the excursion duration...
@warren6899 A Globetrotter? Did you modernize it? I did mine. They discontinued the gas canisters a year after. A campfire is as ancient as the cavemen.. I did that, done that, and I bought the T-shirt. The best is a cross stand which you can make it. Now, I swear by the military canteen stove. I use it as a twig stove. The fuel is free. Available as far as your eyes can see. Have a nice day.
In this day and age, stand up companies are making products to gain market share. This kit is to compete with other, lightweight kits out there. I'm sure it has appeal to some.
My kit for 3 seasons: nano stainless steel, Trangia spirit burner, trangia 1L tea kettle(bail insulator removed), homemade windscreen from a recyclable turkey roasting pan. The wide bottom nature of the tea kettle allows it to capture all flames from either wood fire in the nano or flames from the spirit burner. Windscreen is essential. Yea…. This totally looks like an afterthought.
You have to remember that Trangia 25 and 27 are 'war equipment', they can withstand hard use and fair cooking. Minitrangia is an emergency backup for every home in case of a disaster. A hand longer if the electricity goes out. All can also be used for camping as needed.
I have two of the bigger versions 25UL and 27UL, very versatile and practical, but a bit heavy and spacious, but they are made for more than just heating water, you can actually cook with them, I don’t use the alcohol burner that is included, a bought a gas burner, much cleaner
These stoves have been around forever in different sizes over the years. They were used by the Swedish army in different designs. However, they are to slow and useless in windy conditions that's why I will aways use my Soto Wind-Master gas stove its amazing and highly recommend the Soto Wind-master stove. The benefits of alcohol stove is fuel is easy to obtain anywhere in the world and there are many BushCraft RUclips channels dedicated to cooking with the Trangia alcohol stove and cook sets. ( History)....In 1951, they launched the first prototype of the Trangia stove; a complete cooking system with a burner, pot and windshield. They decided to use liquid fuel due to its efficiency and user friendliness. Trangia has since become one of the leading outdoor industry brands, both in Sweden and around the world. Generations of scouts, mountain hikers and outdoor enthusiasts have cooked their meals on a Trangia stove, still made in the village of Trångsviken, in northern Sweden.
Useless in windy conditions? Trangia stoves are known for, in scandinavia at least, to be able to handle almost every weather. Made dinner on my 25 yesterday in 11 ms/25 mph/40 kmh winds without a problem
Luke, thanks for the Triangia video. I guess the stove kit is fine. I use the tomato paste can, wrapped in welder cloth, inside a cat food can. I have a one liter titanium pot, a double wall stainless coffee cup and a small, heavy bottom Teflon (cheap) skillet. Most of the time I use wood in G2 Nano Firebox. Sometimes, if I use alcohol, my stove sets inside the Firebox for a wind shield. It works well. Thanks for the heads up on the Triangia kit. I hope you and your people are okay. I know the storm hurt you and I’m sorry…from an old man in the mountains of east Tennessee.
Distance from stove to pot is another variable. Glad you covered this micro. So far, my favorite set up is with trangia, heet, titanium stamped metal 2 piece locking potstand, a diy soda can simmer ring and an olicamp xts cookpot. I dont recall the time to reach boil but its way less than 14 minutes. Uses less fuel so I get further along on a budget. Pretty lightweight too with enough room to cook anything.
This kit looked different before. The pot was bigger and the handle was a loose tool, like for the other stoves. Probably made smaller to take less space and new handle to keep the lid in place.
I'm glad you had a constant yellow flame, I'm always seeing people on RUclips having blue flame. I've never achieved a blue flame with my trangia stove.
Luke, how are you and the family with the storms?? We all love the reviews, but live and care for you and your family even more. Praying for your safety.
I'm a big fan of Trangia cookware and I started hiking with a Trangia 27 cookset. I bought the Trangia Mini kit a couple of years ago. It has the same stand as the one in this video and mine had no sharp edges. I use a Trangia Triangle and titanium pot for quick overnighters. The burner holds enough fuel for a dinner and coffee in the morning.
Hi Luke and Susie! How’s lone wolf doing? We have been worried about you guys, strength and honor my brother hang in there be well!! Jenelle sends love and prayers your way!!👍🏽💯❤️
I just discovered Trangia a few years back. I have quite a few other products now and love using them. Even though they’re slower, I appreciate the silence. I have to agree with you, though. I really hate that windscreen. It looks like some kid in art class tried to make something out of tinfoil. Instead of that windscreen, I use two cross supports that fit over the burner or I use the Trangia triangle. There isn’t a lot of wind protection, but it is much more functional I really wish they would come up with something different though for that set up. Hopefully they will listen to reviewers like you and make the necessary changes.
I've never been a Trangia fan, but I am an alcohol stove guy. It looks like the problem here was that stand. The burner and the pot weren't too bad, even the handles getting melted, that's more a function of not having a real windscreen and the flame dancing all over the place because of those large gaps on the stand. For someone seriously considering this purchase, I would say get another stand and a proper windscreen, and cover the pot when boiling water. I agree with Luke that you can put together a better kit for cheaper.
Basically a good kit. Most importantly, Alcohol or household spiritus is widely available (cheap) all over the world. It has pleasant odor and does not irritate the skin or airways if spilled. Many prefer this way of cooking, even inside a vestibule of a tent if you use a bigger windscreen that folds up. The price is even acceptable considering the gas-options. Maybe a titanium version would be an upgrade. Weight does matter. 0.5 liter is sufficient, not bad for a new product.
I'd like to see a comparison of the newer alcohol stove designs. Gas + i.e. a brs3000 is certainly faster, but also quite a bit noisier. Gel stoves are interesting, since you can use hand sanitizer in them, which can be found everywhere, while gas cannisters can be a bit more challenging to find.
@@henningratjen4364well that’s a problem. Performance depends on the lid being on it . The windshield is apiece of crap tho. I use the triangle with the mini and love it. You get a 800 ml pot and small frying pan.
I've had a Trangia 27 hard anodized complete set for many years, cooked on it hundreds of times with no problems. Used correctly, the alcohol stove cooks just fine, it's all in the timing/setup. Agreed, this micro set would be of no use for me and it does look a bit shoddy.
I think that alcohol stoves are a bit of a Marmite system. I’m a fan of both Trangia and gas stoves but each has it’s place. Generally, if I’m camping, I’m not in a huge rush and I’m not too bothered if my brew takes 10mins to boil. I do think that those alu pot holders need a bit of rubbing down to take those edges off. As for the volume markings, it does make sense to stamp in some additional graduations, even if they’re only in metric. They’re great for cooking on, but not if you’re in a major rush, in which case, just don’t stop at all ;-)
Thank you. When I first saw these, I thought they were making a nock off of the awful Redcamp knock off… what was the market they aimed for with this??? PS, your reviews DO save us some bucks we don’t have!
More alcohol in your stove actually increases boil time. I only fill my homemade stove with enough alcohol to achieve a boil plus a couple of minutes to cook the food that I might need to cook. Using your stove stove to carry fuel actually wastes it after the flame is snuffed, because the hot alcohol left behind evaporates into the air until the stove cools. I had this kit before they added the attached handle, but the pot also had a stepped bottom which fit inside the pot holder - it was a better design - unless you lost the (flimsy) unattached handle.
I went through an alcohol/ can stove phase. Built dozens of different designs. With common roof flashing for wind screens and wire pot stands. I keep a kit in the van. I have liquid, gas, and solid fuel burners. Liquid fuels, Coleman or alcohol will always be a problem. I have wanted a Trangia. I really only need the burner, but this wuality issue is distressing.
I have the Mini which looks like a better option, for my use anyway. Slightly bigger pan at 700ml and has the frying pan too. The potstand/windshield is not great, more often I'll use the burner in my Honey Stove if I'm somewhere I can't get twigs to burn (E.g. coastal walks) and I carry a piece of carbon felt with the Honey to use as either a windshield or to protect the ground in really dry conditions
I never had that issue with the windscren when I owned my mini. It was sturdy enough- it just wasn't adequate as a windscreen as it doesn't block wind. I can see issues with it though if you used a heavy cast iron frying pan on it. I lost the bowl though when trying to melt snow for water- I didn't pay enough attention and melted the bottom of the bowl (it was on a fire pit and not on it's stand).
They make multi fuel stoves not just alcohol. I have a isobutane and a white gas and alcohol which I use on bike tours. It is a bulky setup but does work. 5:03
I agree about the wind screen feeling cheap. I got mine in 2018 in a set that just had the burner and the wind screen. The edges were sharp and the texture on the outside just made it look like it was made out of cheap materials. The gel burner just feels and looks like an altoids can. While I would buy the alcohol burner again, I wouldnt buy the set or the gel burner.
I've had the stoves for years, and I use them when the power goes off for a flat out flame if I need one. I've never purchased the options that go with the stoves, they seem way too expensive, and that's before I saw this video;
I have to say that I am a huge fan of Trangia gear, but not of the mini cook set. The 27 and 25 series have seen me through decades of ultralight hiking, both for full meal cooking including baking bread. The mini isn't a great representative of the rest of the Trangia range, sadly. Not being able to use the burner ring inside the mini stove stand is also a bit useless. Stick with a 27 series or go gas I'd say.
The pot support/windscreen is too large for the pot. If it wasn't for that ridge in the bottom of the pot, that pot can easily fall over. Must be made by the "Church of Trangia, reformed". That is a joke by non-Trangia people to refer to Trangia fanatics.
I agree with you on all but one thing, the Trangia stove is rather good (at least compared to other alcohol stoves). That’s why I only use the alcohol stove and the flask you are using in this clip for alcohol storage (those things are amazing, got a 0,33 l for lamp fuel and a 1l for alcohol). Personal I use the Pathfinder series product for all the rest of the cook set, both the Canteen version and the M40 cook set (a copy of the Swedish one). Also, I’m not comfortable when it comes to cooking in aluminium containers so even, thou its heavy I go with stainless steel. In short, get the stove (if you use alcohol) and the fuel bottles from Trangia, get the rest of the cook set somewhere else.
That looks like an older army Trangia stove sold with new lid and flame adjuster. I've had the mini version for years but hardly ever used it. It looks good, and I get the idea behind it, but I wasn't too impressed with it, to be honest.
Everybody knows that Alcohol Burners take time to boil water, a known fact but Lukey Boy ( who knows everything ) doesn’t even put the lid on the Pot which would help the water boil faster. Also, try using a Windshield if you’re moaning about the Wind, also bend the stand supports in if it concerns you that much, quite a simple modification but would rather moan about it instead. Gel fuel works well, that’s why many Countries Armed Forces use it in their Ration Packs, but as usual he totally dismisses it , he’s even used it in many of his Videos so it must be fine then!! Granted, Trangia make great stuff but this set must be doing well as it’s very popular in the Outdoor Community. But moaning about 11 minutes to boil half a Litre of water without putting the lid on is something else, the burners aren’t made to be quick but they should be according the Gospel of Luke, he’ll be wanting a whistle sound on them next when the water gets to boiling point…….🤣😂🔥☕️
Ur right Upgrade overall design would be lot better 👍Dont like stove either dont think pass a saftey test Sharp edges melting plastic cover Slow heating 😕
Good review! Looks like DIY burners are starting to make the Tanga look distinctly old hat, and the wind shield, goodness, maybe the accounts departmant gets more say than R+D
Hi Luke, I hope you're doing well, I was just wondering if you could do a video on some backpacking stove systems that use multi fuel options such as sticks and butane/propane etc. But big enough to use two decent pots or pans on it at the same time. Or do you have any recommendations. I am into prepping and have been in search of a well-rounded stove just in case the butane/propane canisters are hard to find in a SHTF situation. Thanks so much for the help and / or response
Lid on mate. I agree re quality. It seems these past 4 years everything has dropped off re quality. I have a Sigg stove system and its marvelous re materials and the way it works but its old
At first it looked a lot like my kit. I use the old aluminum Evernew pot, but used the 1 liter pot. Trangia mini stove or the Esbit clone stove. I don't like those one piece Trangia windscreen/stand things because they don't pack well and have difficulties with small pots, so I use the Esbit Triangle that packs flat and handles a wide range of pan sizes. Then I add on a full heavy foil windscreen, which cuts boil times down to 8.5 minutes. It doesn't fit in the pot, but it folds flat and packs well in my mess kit. With full protection, the alcohol stove works well regardless of the wind. If your stove pushes orange flames, you're not set up right. Almost everything fits in the pot : the burner, triangle stand, lighter, spices, soap/scrubber and some esbit solid fuel. Everything but the windscreen. The Evernew pot has been fine for 40 years and even has a tight synthetic zip bag, so everything is safely contained. The Esbit Triangle stand keeps the stove suspended off the ground for less heat loss and also works with fuel cubes because it has a little circular plate that you pop in (instead of the stove) that has a cube shaped indent. None of these packaged micro solutions come close to my cobbled together kit. The Evernew pot is the middle pot in a 3 pot set, so I can switch to a larger or smaller pot depending on how many people I'm feeding. I am suspicious of one-vendor solutions because they are rarely best in class for all of the parts. Trangia makes a great stove. They make a great full sized, integrated, all weather cook set. Esbit makes a better mini-stand. Evernew makes a better pot. Most of the wind screens are a rip off. A big sheet of heavy foil and 2 large paper clips work better.
Hi Luke, thanks for sharing this experience, also noticed the discoloration of the pot inner bottom after cooking, wondering if that is normal or might be a potential health issue, i have the same pot.. i remember my parent's old Trangia set when we went camping 30 years ago and i am sure the pots did not look as bad as this one after short use.. also asked Trangia about this and no answer.. and there goes committment right after the purchase 😕
Got a mess kit, was difficult to remove the lid, was sharp, had to use a nail file to take of the sharpe edge, and so to make the lid move on and off easily.
Just a heads up fellow outdoor gear revieweers, most if not all of the out door gear sold in America is mass produced in China and branded to what ever company sells it in the US.
I have the storm cooker series 27 with the gas stove version, happy with it but I agreed Trangia is a bit lazy at their designs sometime...like the kettle's lid plastic holder...
As a Swede I feel it keeps with the times really, as shameful as the quality is most things over here are slipping down a slippery slope.. One thing I've learned the easy way from watching a wide host of different YT channels covering the outdoor space it is that if you want good quality items at an actually affordable price point, military surplus is your one and only friend! I've been thinking about getting myself a old military "Snuskburken" but then again I'm also always late with starting cooking so I think I'm gonna go with a butane/propane burner instead of alcohol burner! Love your content Luke, keep on keeping on my man and cheers from Sweden 🇸🇪🙏
Dude! I know you're in the affected area of North Carolina, I keep waiting to hear how you're doing? I mean obviously you're still north of the daisies, but is your house OK? Your family? Was the cabin on Lone Wolf Mtn affected? Two videos now since and no word! Been worried about you!
Trangia 27 can cook many meals. 11 minute boil time for 2 cups of water is at the high end. Please name the modern alcohol stoves that outperform the spirit burner. The spirit burner goes for about $17-20 dollars. Is $40 for this kit still unreasonable? Your criticism of the look of the windscreen is subjective…not really helpful.
Just a thought, was the wind screen supposed to be turned upside down? There are several "wind/air holes", maybe the sharp edges were meant to be the bottom to dig into ground to keep the pot from falling over? I know that would keep "direct fire" from reaching the pot, maybe that's the idea?
Swede here, Since the early 80s I have used the Trangia cookers when on hikes/camping, perfect if you do a 10 day trek in northern Sweden, I am a regular in and around the Helags glacier, and my newest Trangia is the 27
Also whilst I’m on a roll I know that Alcohol stoves generate much debate on whether they’re lighter or heavier options compared to a gas stove but for me when I hike I like to keep things simple and I’m not interested in rushing everything. An alcohol stove is slower but so is the pace of life and who doesn’t want that in the back country, it’s part of the point of being there at least for me. I could take my jet boil or the pocket rocket and basically rip the air apart when I light them up, but I prefer to be quiet and peaceful and wait a little for my coffee.
Igen. Télen is működik az alkoholos. A gáz nem mindig. 😊
You forgot to put the lid on! 😅
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perhaps the instruction manual was missing or instructions written poorly?
@@Jonathan-jp4zz It's called common sense. Boiling water with the lid on is much more efficient than without.
So half that time with the lid on 😂
Lid on always, save fuel and boils quicker, logical. 😊 brought a Alpkit windshield to keep the crazy movement of the flame, and I agree the handle should be melt proof.
Yeah, hard to believe that someone with his experience would even think about boiling water in a pot without a lid. Waste of time and fuel, as you've said.
@@BeDoHave-so8nr dude set it up to do bad by not putting the lid on come on Stevie Wonder could see dat lol
@@BeDoHave-so8nr at home as i cook with a pan without a lid, i add tinfoil over it.
@@andrew-ij1or That should work just as well.
I agree...always use the lid. Maybe Luke only uses the lid to hold the pot handle in place ;)
From Scandinavia here. I think there was a bit of misunderstanding the product, resulting in a somewhat unfair test here. Great to hear you're safe and well and recovering. All the best
Could you elaborate on the misunderstanding?
I think it looks like a cute cook kit, but it does seem to have quite some flaws.
Trangia makes good stuff usually, I have the 2 person storm cooker set, and although it isn't as fast as a gas stove, it still boils water way faster than this micro set. This micro set looks really cheap, nowhere near the quality of their storm cooker sets.
I would hardly call boiling without the lid on “ideal conditions” … also no mention of the lid when talking about factors which influence the boil time?
A so called agenda free review 🤣🤣🤣
Does everything to make the item look bad, he’s done this many times on other reviews.
The difference would be 30 to 40 seconds, he uses the same methodology for each so the tests are all valid
@@wynwilliams6977 I don't think sooo....Put a lid on it !
That is not a windscreen, just a simple potstand same as in the mini set.
At 11:56 it was stated that higher altitudes will increase boil times. It actually is the opposite. Water will boil quicker the higher you get, but at a lower temperature.
2 mistakes: 1. Never smash the match into the alcohol stove. This avoids that the stove burns correctly 2. Always put the lid on the pan, water will boil much faster. Trangia isn't as bad as it may appear in this video.
Just buy the Mini. When I saw this kit I knew the Mini would just be better. It weighs a little bit more, but the pot is larger and it comes with a non-stick pan as well. Yes the wind shield and burner holder does not block wind very well, so you have to pick a good spot when cooking your food. I've had mine for nearly 10 years now and never had an issue. I've cooked tons of meals on it and yes, it's slow. But it is quiet and taking 5-10 mins longer to make your meal compared to the people who bring gas stoves is really not a big deal. We are rarely if ever in a hurry when out on a hike. Also, this test was not a test done in "ideal conditions". Ideal conditions would be a spot completely out of the wind and with the pot lid on, you lose a surprising amount of heat to the air when you don't use the lid.
On a hike two years ago, we did a 3 nighter and hiked to the second tallest mountaintop in Norway. My Mini was used to cook my meals for all 3 days. Hot chocolate in the morning, boiled water for freeze dried meals, cooked a simple meal from dried meats and instant mashed potatoes, made pancakes on the small frying pan on day 2 etc etc.
Agree. The Trangia Mini is indeed very good! I have used it a lot.
Yes the MIni is far superior.
Thank you for this review 👍🏻 In my opinion, it is not necessary to explicitly mark 3/4, 2/4 and 1/4 of 500ml. I think it is enough to put a mark. Personally, I find it amazing to get a product, produced in Sweden, for such a low price. I believe we should keep in mind that this burner system was invented and developed by Trangia and copied by many companies. Kudos to Trangia for this, I would never buy a copy. Hope you can understand my point of view, I really appreciate your reviews and cheers, Martin 🤜🏻🤛🏻👋🏻
Another RUclipsr called PaleoHiker gave a similar review.
I think Trangia, although they make other good products, missed the mark on this one. Thanks for the review.
I hope and pray that you and your family are continuing to stay safe in such difficult circumstances.
I ordered a Trangia 37 not a 27, it's a special edition in all black and came with non stick pans and a gas burner and alcohol stove. very happy with it
Ooh, gotta look that one up but I'm guessing it came with a hefty price tag attached eh? 😅
I bought the gel version and use solid fuel in it, it works well enough. The plastic handles did melt but trimming off an inch made the problem stop. The 28 mini is a better value.
I see a lot of people using the mini on youtube, but hardly any using the micro. The pot holder/windscreen doesn't do either job well, and that's hyper critical with alcohol. I think cooking on it, as far as the stove, works quite well. I've made pancakes on it and they're hard to do, but that's with the frypan for the mini. I like the design of the stove because you just leave the leftover alcohol in the stove. Super easy not pouring it back into a container. I bought the frypan separately for 10 dollars. Well worth it so far. No problems with the no stick surface. Alcohol is actually better to cook on because the heat is distributed better on the surface. Simmer ring works fine. You really only have about 2 or 3 settings with it, but it's enough. Best off just to buy the stove and the frypan, but the mini is an adequate deal. Throw away the stand and make a shield out of aluminum flashing.
I’m quite happy with my Micro, although the stand doesn’t work as a full windshield. When I want to be fast when brewing my coffee, I’ll pick my Toaks 550 & PocketRocket DLX set, but half of the time I just want to enjoy the silence and for those occasions this had been a good and compact set.
Test the Trangia Triangle instead. It's much better. In fact it's my favorite stove an I keep it on all my tours.
Or Esbit's triangle stand/stove.
@@martinhafner2201No thanks, the original trangia one would suffice
My first alcohol stove was an original Swedish military issue Trangia, it's still a favorite.
It's heavier than modern hiking gear, but like all military surplus gear, it's super rugged, and I'll be able to pass it down to the grandkids.
Caldera cone is lighter and more efficient if you are boiling water for freeze dried meals. My Jetboil burner wouldn’t work on a cold spring morning. Glad I brought my diy cone
The 'windshield' only works in a draft free shed. It is really just a stove stand with pretentions, like the mini trangia, on which the system is based. A folding windshield would dramatically improve the performance of this stove.
I believe the Mini has the same pot stand. I've had one for decades and never gotten a cut.
From South Africa the trick is to file a notch at the top uf the 4 points of the stove support, 2 opposing notches deeper than the othe two.
Lay 2 pieces of wire across the top, then it will accommodate a smaller cup.
The wire cross pieces protrude +- 70 mm on each side of the potstan,d. Bent over @ 90 deg so they don't slip sideways.
I've got the mini which has the same potstand
The 2 deeper notches are obviously 1 wire thickness deeper
What? Why all that work? Just put a Cross stand on the Trangia and the knockoff and /or use the Evernew Ti Stove and knockoff with or without the cross stand.
@@nickcasolino8903 because here in South Africa we only have the option of inventiveness not 5000 different gear options, so, over time, we get hellish clever
@warren6899 No. That's in the US. Here, in Canada, we use our brains. We don't carry 1001 gismos to boil water. We use a lighter to build a campfire for cooking and for heating. Just one item
@@nickcasolino8903 gotit ! Like I said, we only get imited Chinese junk, so we also get inventive... I'm a modest collector of vintage camp stoves & cookware... my coffee kit is either a gaz globetrotter self modded for a 190g cannister, or a Dakota firehole depending on the excursion duration...
@warren6899 A Globetrotter? Did you modernize it? I did mine. They discontinued the gas canisters a year after. A campfire is as ancient as the cavemen.. I did that, done that, and I bought the T-shirt. The best is a cross stand which you can make it. Now, I swear by the military canteen stove. I use it as a twig stove. The fuel is free. Available as far as your eyes can see. Have a nice day.
Glad you stated it's an HONEST REVIEW. Puts my mind at rest.
Those of us who use alcohol stoves have windscreens, but I agree with you that Trangia did cheap out on this one.
In this day and age, stand up companies are making products to gain market share. This kit is to compete with other, lightweight kits out there. I'm sure it has appeal to some.
My kit for 3 seasons: nano stainless steel, Trangia spirit burner, trangia 1L tea kettle(bail insulator removed), homemade windscreen from a recyclable turkey roasting pan. The wide bottom nature of the tea kettle allows it to capture all flames from either wood fire in the nano or flames from the spirit burner. Windscreen is essential. Yea…. This totally looks like an afterthought.
You have to remember that Trangia 25 and 27 are 'war equipment', they can withstand hard use and fair cooking. Minitrangia is an emergency backup for every home in case of a disaster. A hand longer if the electricity goes out. All can also be used for camping as needed.
I have two of the bigger versions 25UL and 27UL, very versatile and practical, but a bit heavy and spacious, but they are made for more than just heating water, you can actually cook with them, I don’t use the alcohol burner that is included, a bought a gas burner, much cleaner
These stoves have been around forever in different sizes over the years. They were used by the Swedish army in different designs. However, they are to slow and useless in windy conditions that's why I will aways use my Soto Wind-Master gas stove its amazing and highly recommend the Soto Wind-master stove. The benefits of alcohol stove is fuel is easy to obtain anywhere in the world and there are many BushCraft RUclips channels dedicated to cooking with the Trangia alcohol stove and cook sets. ( History)....In 1951, they launched the first prototype of the Trangia stove; a complete cooking system with a burner, pot and windshield. They decided to use liquid fuel due to its efficiency and user friendliness. Trangia has since become one of the leading outdoor industry brands, both in Sweden and around the world. Generations of scouts, mountain hikers and outdoor enthusiasts have cooked their meals on a Trangia stove, still made in the village of Trångsviken, in northern Sweden.
Useless in windy conditions? Trangia stoves are known for, in scandinavia at least, to be able to handle almost every weather. Made dinner on my 25 yesterday in 11 ms/25 mph/40 kmh winds without a problem
Luke, thanks for the Triangia video. I guess the stove kit is fine. I use the tomato paste can, wrapped in welder cloth, inside a cat food can. I have a one liter titanium pot, a double wall stainless coffee cup and a small, heavy bottom Teflon (cheap) skillet. Most of the time I use wood in G2 Nano Firebox. Sometimes, if I use alcohol, my stove sets inside the Firebox for a wind shield. It works well. Thanks for the heads up on the Triangia kit. I hope you and your people are okay. I know the storm hurt you and I’m sorry…from an old man in the mountains of east Tennessee.
Distance from stove to pot is another variable. Glad you covered this micro. So far, my favorite set up is with trangia, heet, titanium stamped metal 2 piece locking potstand, a diy soda can simmer ring and an olicamp xts cookpot. I dont recall the time to reach boil but its way less than 14 minutes. Uses less fuel so I get further along on a budget. Pretty lightweight too with enough room to cook anything.
This kit looked different before. The pot was bigger and the handle was a loose tool, like for the other stoves. Probably made smaller to take less space and new handle to keep the lid in place.
I'm glad you had a constant yellow flame, I'm always seeing people on RUclips having blue flame. I've never achieved a blue flame with my trangia stove.
Use 99.9 methanol, blue flame
@@fromtheflightdeck252 are you saying that the metho I buy at the hardware store isn't pure? TBH I wouldn't be surprised.
Luke, how are you and the family with the storms?? We all love the reviews, but live and care for you and your family even more. Praying for your safety.
Did you not have the lid on when boiling to reduce boil time ?
Exactly...
He doesnt use a lid in a his tests, its to make it comparable and otherwise you cant see the exact time when it boils.
@@henningratjen4364 Cant really compare the time them, the environment have to much of an influence
I'm a big fan of Trangia cookware and I started hiking with a Trangia 27 cookset. I bought the Trangia Mini kit a couple of years ago. It has the same stand as the one in this video and mine had no sharp edges. I use a Trangia Triangle and titanium pot for quick overnighters. The burner holds enough fuel for a dinner and coffee in the morning.
Hi Luke and Susie! How’s lone wolf doing? We have been worried about you guys, strength and honor my brother hang in there be well!! Jenelle sends love and prayers your way!!👍🏽💯❤️
Said they are doing well, water was high on the house and lost some gear but are thankful, especially cos their neighbors died in a mud slide
@@davids5006 good Lord, I am so sorry to hear that someone passed away due to a mudslide however thank you so much for keeping us updated🙏🙏🙏😞
@@davids5006 - Where exactly did they say that? Link? Why no video posted about Helene?
@@johngalt6929 it wasn't a video, he posted it in words on RUclips to his page
@@johngalt6929 look on his page and click the community page for it, I had to go look
I just discovered Trangia a few years back. I have quite a few other products now and love using them. Even though they’re slower, I appreciate the silence. I have to agree with you, though. I really hate that windscreen. It looks like some kid in art class tried to make something out of tinfoil. Instead of that windscreen, I use two cross supports that fit over the burner or I use the Trangia triangle. There isn’t a lot of wind protection, but it is much more functional I really wish they would come up with something different though for that set up. Hopefully they will listen to reviewers like you and make the necessary changes.
I think the windshield has that apperance since it is also for insulation of the ground to not get too hot. So basically 3 layered. Or not?
I've never been a Trangia fan, but I am an alcohol stove guy. It looks like the problem here was that stand. The burner and the pot weren't too bad, even the handles getting melted, that's more a function of not having a real windscreen and the flame dancing all over the place because of those large gaps on the stand. For someone seriously considering this purchase, I would say get another stand and a proper windscreen, and cover the pot when boiling water. I agree with Luke that you can put together a better kit for cheaper.
I carry a minimal Triangia cook set while elk hunting. It is wonderful to stop and have warm meal when you are miles from camp.
Trangia apparently has to stamp each volume in numbers next to level markers so Americans don't get confused.
I'm American and was thinking, "I see the markers, obviously they are .1 per." This thing has issues, but that's not one of them
American here too. Me too figured it out right away! Imagine
Thanks for the honest review. I've made my own alcohol stoves that I feel work better and safer than the one in your video.
That is only a stove stand. To call that a wind block/shield is a lie. Aluminum foil would correct that cheaply, though.
Basically a good kit. Most importantly, Alcohol or household spiritus is widely available (cheap) all over the world. It has pleasant odor and does not irritate the skin or airways if spilled. Many prefer this way of cooking, even inside a vestibule of a tent if you use a bigger windscreen that folds up. The price is even acceptable considering the gas-options. Maybe a titanium version would be an upgrade. Weight does matter. 0.5 liter is sufficient, not bad for a new product.
I'd like to see a comparison of the newer alcohol stove designs.
Gas + i.e. a brs3000 is certainly faster, but also quite a bit noisier.
Gel stoves are interesting, since you can use hand sanitizer in them, which can be found everywhere, while gas cannisters can be a bit more challenging to find.
The cook set comes with a lid, so you should use the lid for the boiling test.
He doesnt use a lid in a his tests, its to make it comparable and otherwise you cant see the exact time when it boils.
@@henningratjen4364well that’s a problem. Performance depends on the lid being on it . The windshield is apiece of crap tho. I use the triangle with the mini and love it. You get a 800 ml pot and small frying pan.
@@henningratjen4364 Then he is unfair to the products.
A great episode would be comparing the different fuel sources for camp stoves and the advantages and disadvantages of each.
I've had a Trangia 27 hard anodized complete set for many years, cooked on it hundreds of times with no problems. Used correctly, the alcohol stove cooks just fine, it's all in the timing/setup. Agreed, this micro set would be of no use for me and it does look a bit shoddy.
I think that alcohol stoves are a bit of a Marmite system. I’m a fan of both Trangia and gas stoves but each has it’s place. Generally, if I’m camping, I’m not in a huge rush and I’m not too bothered if my brew takes 10mins to boil. I do think that those alu pot holders need a bit of rubbing down to take those edges off. As for the volume markings, it does make sense to stamp in some additional graduations, even if they’re only in metric. They’re great for cooking on, but not if you’re in a major rush, in which case, just don’t stop at all ;-)
Thank you. When I first saw these, I thought they were making a nock off of the awful Redcamp knock off… what was the market they aimed for with this??? PS, your reviews DO save us some bucks we don’t have!
Thanks for another GREAT vid!
More alcohol in your stove actually increases boil time. I only fill my homemade stove with enough alcohol to achieve a boil plus a couple of minutes to cook the food that I might need to cook. Using your stove stove to carry fuel actually wastes it after the flame is snuffed, because the hot alcohol left behind evaporates into the air until the stove cools.
I had this kit before they added the attached handle, but the pot also had a stepped bottom which fit inside the pot holder - it was a better design - unless you lost the (flimsy) unattached handle.
I went through an alcohol/ can stove phase. Built dozens of different designs. With common roof flashing for wind screens and wire pot stands. I keep a kit in the van. I have liquid, gas, and solid fuel burners. Liquid fuels, Coleman or alcohol will always be a problem. I have wanted a Trangia. I really only need the burner, but this wuality issue is distressing.
Perhaps you need to take some outdoor lessons I use that lovely stove already for a few years it never fails love it. But i'm not payed by Coleman
I have the Mini which looks like a better option, for my use anyway. Slightly bigger pan at 700ml and has the frying pan too. The potstand/windshield is not great, more often I'll use the burner in my Honey Stove if I'm somewhere I can't get twigs to burn (E.g. coastal walks) and I carry a piece of carbon felt with the Honey to use as either a windshield or to protect the ground in really dry conditions
If it is the same windscreen as the mini (28) the aluminium are extremely soft, you have bend the tabs back about every time you use it.
I never had that issue with the windscren when I owned my mini. It was sturdy enough- it just wasn't adequate as a windscreen as it doesn't block wind. I can see issues with it though if you used a heavy cast iron frying pan on it. I lost the bowl though when trying to melt snow for water- I didn't pay enough attention and melted the bottom of the bowl (it was on a fire pit and not on it's stand).
They make multi fuel stoves not just alcohol. I have a isobutane and a white gas and alcohol which I use on bike tours. It is a bulky setup but does work. 5:03
I agree about the wind screen feeling cheap. I got mine in 2018 in a set that just had the burner and the wind screen. The edges were sharp and the texture on the outside just made it look like it was made out of cheap materials. The gel burner just feels and looks like an altoids can. While I would buy the alcohol burner again, I wouldnt buy the set or the gel burner.
I'll stick with my original Trangia 27 set. If I need a second burner, the Trangia Triangle is probably better.
I've had the stoves for years, and I use them when the power goes off for a flat out flame if I need one. I've never purchased the options that go with the stoves, they seem way too expensive, and that's before I saw this video;
I have to say that I am a huge fan of Trangia gear, but not of the mini cook set. The 27 and 25 series have seen me through decades of ultralight hiking, both for full meal cooking including baking bread. The mini isn't a great representative of the rest of the Trangia range, sadly. Not being able to use the burner ring inside the mini stove stand is also a bit useless. Stick with a 27 series or go gas I'd say.
Nice review, thanks.
The pot support/windscreen is too large for the pot. If it wasn't for that ridge in the bottom of the pot, that pot can easily fall over.
Must be made by the "Church of Trangia, reformed". That is a joke by non-Trangia people to refer to Trangia fanatics.
I agree with you on all but one thing, the Trangia stove is rather good (at least compared to other alcohol stoves). That’s why I only use the alcohol stove and the flask you are using in this clip for alcohol storage (those things are amazing, got a 0,33 l for lamp fuel and a 1l for alcohol).
Personal I use the Pathfinder series product for all the rest of the cook set, both the Canteen version and the M40 cook set (a copy of the Swedish one). Also, I’m not comfortable when it comes to cooking in aluminium containers so even, thou its heavy I go with stainless steel.
In short, get the stove (if you use alcohol) and the fuel bottles from Trangia, get the rest of the cook set somewhere else.
That looks like an older army Trangia stove sold with new lid and flame adjuster. I've had the mini version for years but hardly ever used it. It looks good, and I get the idea behind it, but I wasn't too impressed with it, to be honest.
I have this, not overly impressed but you need to use the adjustable simmer lid on the stove itself to control the flame
Everybody knows that Alcohol Burners take time to boil water, a known fact but Lukey Boy ( who knows everything ) doesn’t even put the lid on the Pot which would help the water boil faster.
Also, try using a Windshield if you’re moaning about the Wind, also bend the stand supports in if it concerns you that much, quite a simple modification but would rather moan about it instead.
Gel fuel works well, that’s why many Countries Armed Forces use it in their Ration Packs, but as usual he totally dismisses it , he’s even used it in many of his Videos so it must be fine then!!
Granted, Trangia make great stuff but this set must be doing well as it’s very popular in the Outdoor Community.
But moaning about 11 minutes to boil half a Litre of water without putting the lid on is something else, the burners aren’t made to be quick but they should be according the Gospel of Luke, he’ll be wanting a whistle sound on them next when the water gets to boiling point…….🤣😂🔥☕️
I'm sure it is manufactured in China. Always put lid on to get a quicker boil. You can also dampen the heat source to prevent the handle from burning.
If there would be just half hook (or even extended hook) for the handle, it would be detachable but still work as a lock when packed away.
It looks like a very cheap product I wouldn’t buy thank you for illustrating this product
Great Honest review!
Ur right Upgrade overall design would be lot better 👍Dont like stove either dont think pass a saftey test Sharp edges melting plastic cover Slow heating 😕
Thanks for the heads up!
Good review! Looks like DIY burners are starting to make the Tanga look distinctly old hat, and the wind shield, goodness, maybe the accounts departmant gets more say than R+D
Hi Luke, I hope you're doing well, I was just wondering if you could do a video on some backpacking stove systems that use multi fuel options such as sticks and butane/propane etc. But big enough to use two decent pots or pans on it at the same time. Or do you have any recommendations. I am into prepping and have been in search of a well-rounded stove just in case the butane/propane canisters are hard to find in a SHTF situation. Thanks so much for the help and / or response
Cat food can stove , titanium foil wind screen , dynema storage bag , no stove system lighter , and a 3 or 4 oz Nalgene alcohol bottle
A good starter kit for a grandkid
The melting cover on the handle is a deal breaker.
just cut it back by an inch and all is good.
@@Ces1um exactly
You’d do best to use heet as a fuel source. Burns hotter and cleaner. Less boil time.
Lid on mate. I agree re quality. It seems these past 4 years everything has dropped off re quality. I have a Sigg stove system and its marvelous re materials and the way it works but its old
I’ve had a Trangia for a few years, but it collects dust, because I use my Pocket Rocket more often.
you’re literally my comfort person i love you kislux !
Hope you and Mama Bear made it thru the storm ok… let us know👍🏼
He posted few days ago that they are ok, water got high on their house and lost some gear. Far better than their neighbor who died in a mud slide
@@davids5006 VERY sorry for that news about his friend
It looks like Trangia nave taken their eye off the ball, much like Maglite did in the torch world many years ago.
I have the trangia mini and not a fan at all except for the stove part which is great because I love alcohol fuel.
At first it looked a lot like my kit. I use the old aluminum Evernew pot, but used the 1 liter pot. Trangia mini stove or the Esbit clone stove. I don't like those one piece Trangia windscreen/stand things because they don't pack well and have difficulties with small pots, so I use the Esbit Triangle that packs flat and handles a wide range of pan sizes. Then I add on a full heavy foil windscreen, which cuts boil times down to 8.5 minutes. It doesn't fit in the pot, but it folds flat and packs well in my mess kit. With full protection, the alcohol stove works well regardless of the wind. If your stove pushes orange flames, you're not set up right.
Almost everything fits in the pot : the burner, triangle stand, lighter, spices, soap/scrubber and some esbit solid fuel. Everything but the windscreen. The Evernew pot has been fine for 40 years and even has a tight synthetic zip bag, so everything is safely contained.
The Esbit Triangle stand keeps the stove suspended off the ground for less heat loss and also works with fuel cubes because it has a little circular plate that you pop in (instead of the stove) that has a cube shaped indent.
None of these packaged micro solutions come close to my cobbled together kit.
The Evernew pot is the middle pot in a 3 pot set, so I can switch to a larger or smaller pot depending on how many people I'm feeding.
I am suspicious of one-vendor solutions because they are rarely best in class for all of the parts.
Trangia makes a great stove. They make a great full sized, integrated, all weather cook set. Esbit makes a better mini-stand. Evernew makes a better pot. Most of the wind screens are a rip off. A big sheet of heavy foil and 2 large paper clips work better.
So glad to no you and Susie are alright, how is your brother ,Father and Mother? Prayer's for all your family ❤
"A rational man does not indulge in wistful longings for ends divorced from means."
-Ayn Rand-
I have used their alcohol stoves in the past with methyl hydrate and I was alarmed to see how much it flared up
Hi Luke, thanks for sharing this experience, also noticed the discoloration of the pot inner bottom after cooking, wondering if that is normal or might be a potential health issue, i have the same pot.. i remember my parent's old Trangia set when we went camping 30 years ago and i am sure the pots did not look as bad as this one after short use.. also asked Trangia about this and no answer.. and there goes committment right after the purchase 😕
Got a mess kit, was difficult to remove the lid, was sharp, had to use a nail file to take of the sharpe edge, and so to make the lid move on and off easily.
I wouldn't pay more than $20.00 for that kit. I really does look cheap. Cheers from Winnipeg.
Just a question. Have you ever been to manufacturing plant in America that produces the equipment you review? It would make for an awesome video.
Just a heads up fellow outdoor gear revieweers, most if not all of the out door gear sold in America is mass produced in China and branded to what ever company sells it in the US.
Amy thermal warm blankets worth less than 100 really need one for the minus weather midweek
I have the storm cooker series 27 with the gas stove version, happy with it but I agreed Trangia is a bit lazy at their designs sometime...like the kettle's lid plastic holder...
As a Swede I feel it keeps with the times really, as shameful as the quality is most things over here are slipping down a slippery slope..
One thing I've learned the easy way from watching a wide host of different YT channels covering the outdoor space it is that if you want good quality items at an actually affordable price point, military surplus is your one and only friend!
I've been thinking about getting myself a old military "Snuskburken" but then again I'm also always late with starting cooking so I think I'm gonna go with a butane/propane burner instead of alcohol burner!
Love your content Luke, keep on keeping on my man and cheers from Sweden 🇸🇪🙏
M40 is excellent, very well designed and sturdy. Can deep fry in the big pot!
C'mon Luke...!
Why not put the pot lid on while you boil the water..??
it will save time and' fuel..
Because of the same reason he didn't use a windscreen. He had to make it look bad because they didn't pay for a good review
He doesnt use a lid in a his tests, its to make it comparable and otherwise you cant see the exact time when it boils.
@@chado_outdoorsthey didn't pay at all 🤣 none of them pay him
@@chado_outdoors I am sure he won't take any money from any companies, but perhaps the instruction manual sucks or missing?
@@chado_outdoorsyeh but it’s an agenda free channel you must remember 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Always lid on
As others said...boil with lid on.
Luke what do you mean you have to rebuild please let us know
Dude! I know you're in the affected area of North Carolina, I keep waiting to hear how you're doing? I mean obviously you're still north of the daisies, but is your house OK? Your family? Was the cabin on Lone Wolf Mtn affected? Two videos now since and no word! Been worried about you!
Look at his Posts tab on his channel page
Trangia 27 can cook many meals. 11 minute boil time for 2 cups of water is at the high end. Please name the modern alcohol stoves that outperform the spirit burner. The spirit burner goes for about $17-20 dollars. Is $40 for this kit still unreasonable? Your criticism of the look of the windscreen is subjective…not really helpful.
You can get the kit in europe for ~30 €.
a toaks 500ml titanium cup costs that much.
But the mini kit (28t) might be the better option.
Just a thought, was the wind screen supposed to be turned upside down? There are several "wind/air holes", maybe the sharp edges were meant to be the bottom to dig into ground to keep the pot from falling over? I know that would keep "direct fire" from reaching the pot, maybe that's the idea?
Nope it was the right way up, he just didnt use the simmer lid on the stove itself which would have controlled the flame