"A dying leader, led Humanity to the promised land." I wonder if you could argue that Galactica is that leader. They personified the Hell out of that ship and she was the Shepard of both Humanity and it's Fleet.
I believe it was Galactica. The scriptures say that the dying leader in question would be unable to enter the new land - if the definition of “enter” is to enter the planet’s atmosphere and/or land on the ground, then Laura died after having entered it, invalidating her part in the prophecy. Sure, the idea of a grounded Battlestar is possible, and probably done once or twice during the First Cylon War, but without the proper support, it’s highly dangerous and likely to fail - consider Galactica’s extensive damage as it was after the final jump on top of all that, and you’re looking at nigh impossible. That’s my theory, anyways.
@WildCharger There's this theory I read some time ago wich says that the source of the cycle was their technology, wich at some point got corrupted/infected by an unknown entity. It was in the roots of their civilization, like the song, dormant until they advanced high enough to develop sentient AI. At that point it would wake up/activate and make the machine destroy the master. It was like using malware as the OS for your computer, no matter how many antiviruses you use, it's impossible to get rid of a problem buried so deep in the source code. The only way out is to erase the OS completely and start from scratch.
They sure did. After their final jump, Tigh's reeling off the damage report in technical terms and then just trails off into "She's broke her back, she'll never jump again." He's got so much pain in his voice. He doesn't know where they are, they're vulnerable to attack, but he's not scared or worried, he's *grieving*. That line has been stuck in my head for years.
@@WildCharger Laura saw the "new land" where Adama was going to build the cabin but she was dead before they landed. She saw the vision of the serpents numbering 2 and 10, how could Galactica do that or be any leader?? She was a vessel under the command of Bill Adama. The show was an interesting fictional story but the REALLY interesting thing is that the real world events are happening EXACTLY as the King James Bible, namely Jesus Christ said they would! Believe on HIM and what HE did, sacrifice HIMSELF for us so that HIS Blood cleanses us from all sin, put your Faith in HIS Blood and be saved!
One of my favorite story arcs involving one of my favorite BSG characters - Starbuck's dark and deep journey into faith. I think I'm ready to rewatch the whole series again.
I literally just started my rewatch of this for the first time in 10 years, and now I'm getting recomended clips. I really wish Billy never had to leave =( his character was one of the best supporting roles.
Love it. One of the reasons why I love this show so much is because of the lessons of insubordination. Sometimes it's needed and sometimes it is not. Having the wisdom to know when you should go against orders and when not to is what is necessary to be a good and compassionate human being.
I noticed that too. If it was a directing or writing error it’s unfortunately noticeable, though I agree with the existing justifications made before my reply and I’m sure more will probably be found.
they're not running any more, because we are their descendants, where do you think all of these stories come from? that 6,000 years history tale they like to say is 100% BS
@@charlesmcgehee3227 Noooo! not me, they was running (Flying) for their lives, from some crazy sadistic religious robots, so Nope! count me out for that duty.
Starbuck. What a great role. When she first made that Cylon fighter fly, I thought it was great. That woman "president" turned against Starbuck later and I knew she would. She conned Starbuck and snitched on Commander Adama. Breaking a promise. It was Kara that found their new home. Not the President as she bragged she would.
The first 2 seasons were some of the most intense I've ever seen. Then, suddenly at the start of season 3, it felt like the writers just didn't have any idea what the frig they wanted to do with the show any more. Kind of like what happened to Game Of Thrones.
Before this show came out and they said that Starbuck was going to be played by a woman, I was upset, they're going to ruin another one of my childhood memories. But I was wrong about her, as far as I'm concerned now, the original Starbuck was good, but she is a much better fit and a extremely talented actress.
It doesn't hurt, that they didn't do what seems to be the modern trend of telling people you're a meany-doodoface for not liking that concept. They just let the show, speak for itself.
I did get a little frustrated with all the cylon religion and some of the other bits but I still enjoyed the show So if a show does that it’s a great series
I never understood that if they were able to interface with the Raider and actually control it, why were they not able to reverse engineer the FTL Drive and install them on the Viper Mark VII? I know the game BSG Deadlock isn't Canon, but Galen Tyrol was able to retrofit a Raptor FTL to the Stealth Viper and that ship is way less complex than the Viper Mark II and Mark VII. And with the compact nature of the Cylon FTL, it would have given Galactica's fighter wings a hell of a lot more reach and more devastating precision attacks against Base Stars. It seems this was necessary only to get the plot going. If it wasn't for that limitation, Vipers could have been used as well to reach deeper into the galaxy to find either an alternate home, find potentially other races, or even have found other Colonial Outposts, which DO exist in the old BSG. Colonies like Terra, Paradine, and the planet where the Satyr Ship was discovered and Count Iblis nearly killed Apollo.
Just because they know how to control it in a raider doesn't mean they know how it works well enough to install it in something else, let alone manufacture more
I would think it's more a lack of time and resources. Recall that they could not build new Vipers until Pegasus joined them, so their manufacturing capacity was somewhat limited. Though the idea of them having FTL capable scout Vipers is neat, and it would definitely represent a tactical advantage for them. Also, if I understand correctly, BSG Deadlock is considered canon. At least, that's what I recall from Spacedock's ship breakdown vids. If that's still the case, then Galen Tyrol's retrofitting would still be a viable plot point. The issue then would be the fact that Deadlock was released well after the show, so anything it introduced needed to be justified, retconed, or explained away for why we did or didn't see it later on.
The first two seasons of BSG were absolutely perfect. Riveting, heartbreaking, exciting. Awesome characters, brilliant plotting, fantastic cast. Then the writers rebooted their own reboot, throwing everything away and replacing it with pretentious, nonsensical drivel. The show rotted away before our eyes and shambled along, a zombie of its former self, until the ridiculous S4 finale. One of the biggest disappointments in sci-fi TV history.
I always hated this supernatural/mystic/theocratic nonsense they kept weaving into the storylines. You’d think a spacefaring people would have outgrown the need to believe in and worship non-existent divine beings.
Adama’s a master of answering questions in such a way nothing can be used
His dad was a lawyer
I'm criticized for being cryptic when I do it.
"A dying leader, led Humanity to the promised land."
I wonder if you could argue that Galactica is that leader. They personified the Hell out of that ship and she was the Shepard of both Humanity and it's Fleet.
I believe it was Galactica. The scriptures say that the dying leader in question would be unable to enter the new land - if the definition of “enter” is to enter the planet’s atmosphere and/or land on the ground, then Laura died after having entered it, invalidating her part in the prophecy. Sure, the idea of a grounded Battlestar is possible, and probably done once or twice during the First Cylon War, but without the proper support, it’s highly dangerous and likely to fail - consider Galactica’s extensive damage as it was after the final jump on top of all that, and you’re looking at nigh impossible.
That’s my theory, anyways.
@WildCharger There's this theory I read some time ago wich says that the source of the cycle was their technology, wich at some point got corrupted/infected by an unknown entity. It was in the roots of their civilization, like the song, dormant until they advanced high enough to develop sentient AI. At that point it would wake up/activate and make the machine destroy the master.
It was like using malware as the OS for your computer, no matter how many antiviruses you use, it's impossible to get rid of a problem buried so deep in the source code. The only way out is to erase the OS completely and start from scratch.
They sure did. After their final jump, Tigh's reeling off the damage report in technical terms and then just trails off into "She's broke her back, she'll never jump again."
He's got so much pain in his voice. He doesn't know where they are, they're vulnerable to attack, but he's not scared or worried, he's *grieving*. That line has been stuck in my head for years.
@@WildCharger Laura saw the "new land" where Adama was going to build the cabin but she was dead before they landed. She saw the vision of the serpents numbering 2 and 10, how could Galactica do that or be any leader?? She was a vessel under the command of Bill Adama.
The show was an interesting fictional story but the REALLY interesting thing is that the real world events are happening EXACTLY as the King James Bible, namely Jesus Christ said they would! Believe on HIM and what HE did, sacrifice HIMSELF for us so that HIS Blood cleanses us from all sin, put your Faith in HIS Blood and be saved!
One of my favorite story arcs involving one of my favorite BSG characters - Starbuck's dark and deep journey into faith. I think I'm ready to rewatch the whole series again.
I literally just started my rewatch of this for the first time in 10 years, and now I'm getting recomended clips. I really wish Billy never had to leave =( his character was one of the best supporting roles.
Had to leave? Was it a scheduling conflict with the actor or something?
Are you sure you did not figuretively just start to rewatch this?
Love it. One of the reasons why I love this show so much is because of the lessons of insubordination. Sometimes it's needed and sometimes it is not. Having the wisdom to know when you should go against orders and when not to is what is necessary to be a good and compassionate human being.
Yes exactly!
I just love the resigned way Lee reported it.
A voice that could also of said 'Gods damnit, Starbuck! Not again!'
Yep... like a Victorian age captain muttering, "Hell to pay and no hot pitch."
I noticed that too. If it was a directing or writing error it’s unfortunately noticeable, though I agree with the existing justifications made before my reply and I’m sure more will probably be found.
This show made a believer out of me. I’m convinced that there’s a human civilization on the run and looking for a new home.
There was - 150,000 years ago.
X-files theme intensifies.
Well they better keep running we got enough problems here 👀
they're not running any more, because we are their descendants, where do you think all of these stories come from? that 6,000 years history tale they like to say is 100% BS
hey during these crazy times I'd rather sign up for lifelong duty on the Galactica.
@@charlesmcgehee3227 Noooo! not me, they was running (Flying) for their lives, from some crazy sadistic religious robots, so Nope! count me out for that duty.
It must stink in that Raider.
I bought the whole series to this day I still rewatch it ! Best show ever !
Simply the best show ever.
So Say We All
Still the greatest show
So say we all.
@@NYCamper62
So say we all
Up until Season 4.
@@dwnkaomwn3953
Even Season 4. The first half of Season 4 was better than the 2nd half of Season 4. It was ALL good.
Its a insult to us who watched the original, but at least they found Earth.
The grief, regret, and fear for his daughter all encompassed in that single word: "Home".
EJO is a master of his art.
Starbuck. What a great role. When she first made that Cylon fighter fly, I thought it was great. That woman "president" turned against Starbuck later and I knew she would. She conned Starbuck and snitched on Commander Adama. Breaking a promise. It was Kara that found their new home. Not the President as she bragged she would.
Aaaah this show
I love Starbuck. She's one of my favourite tv characters ever.
This great show was rushed, it had condensed the stories, it needed another year. I loved this show.
Just started watching this. Mini series is down and it's gooood son, now on to s1.
"I want the dark saber" "This is the way"
The first 2 seasons were some of the most intense I've ever seen. Then, suddenly at the start of season 3, it felt like the writers just didn't have any idea what the frig they wanted to do with the show any more. Kind of like what happened to Game Of Thrones.
It's nothing like the Game of Thrones situation.
Old comment, but part of this was the Writers Strike which happened in the middle of Season 4 causing the Season 4 Part 1 and Season 4 Part 2 split.
Brilliant show 😊❤️
That must be so uncomfortable to fly the raider like that.
Before this show came out and they said that Starbuck was going to be played by a woman, I was upset, they're going to ruin another one of my childhood memories. But I was wrong about her, as far as I'm concerned now, the original Starbuck was good, but she is a much better fit and a extremely talented actress.
It doesn't hurt, that they didn't do what seems to be the modern trend of telling people you're a meany-doodoface for not liking that concept.
They just let the show, speak for itself.
Like how Billy standup to the president
I just started crying uncontrollably because I realized Dee is still alive.
I want another series? "SO say we all."
I did get a little frustrated with all the cylon religion and some of the other bits but I still enjoyed the show
So if a show does that it’s a great series
Crazy was giving up the pegasus that's where humanity died.
I wonder how small an FTL drive can be to fit into a Raider.
Isn’t it integrated into the Raider to begin with?
The FTL is biomechanical like most of the rest of the Raider, yes.
Cylon FTL technology is way ahead of the colonies.
Thai face Kara went back to New Caprica
I never understood that if they were able to interface with the Raider and actually control it, why were they not able to reverse engineer the FTL Drive and install them on the Viper Mark VII? I know the game BSG Deadlock isn't Canon, but Galen Tyrol was able to retrofit a Raptor FTL to the Stealth Viper and that ship is way less complex than the Viper Mark II and Mark VII. And with the compact nature of the Cylon FTL, it would have given Galactica's fighter wings a hell of a lot more reach and more devastating precision attacks against Base Stars.
It seems this was necessary only to get the plot going. If it wasn't for that limitation, Vipers could have been used as well to reach deeper into the galaxy to find either an alternate home, find potentially other races, or even have found other Colonial Outposts, which DO exist in the old BSG. Colonies like Terra, Paradine, and the planet where the Satyr Ship was discovered and Count Iblis nearly killed Apollo.
Just because they know how to control it in a raider doesn't mean they know how it works well enough to install it in something else, let alone manufacture more
I would think it's more a lack of time and resources. Recall that they could not build new Vipers until Pegasus joined them, so their manufacturing capacity was somewhat limited. Though the idea of them having FTL capable scout Vipers is neat, and it would definitely represent a tactical advantage for them.
Also, if I understand correctly, BSG Deadlock is considered canon. At least, that's what I recall from Spacedock's ship breakdown vids. If that's still the case, then Galen Tyrol's retrofitting would still be a viable plot point. The issue then would be the fact that Deadlock was released well after the show, so anything it introduced needed to be justified, retconed, or explained away for why we did or didn't see it later on.
Don't hurt my papaies mules
Starbuck was literally the harbinger of both races but she was the reason the Hybrid species was born
and galatica was the dying leader who take the people to a new home but die in the process
@@sword4005 didn't die in the process, they flew it into the sun after they got to earth. if cylons had come back humanity would have been dead lol
@@edwardcoomer5865 it died metaphorically, it back breaking on the last jump, the flying into the sun was it viking funeral
This is the way :)
Why can;t they clean up the inside of the raider a bit?
Yes, boss. Heard. See ya.
The Faith
Thus Adama got mad at Laura not because she was unfit for the presidency or any other B.S reasons.
The first two seasons of BSG were absolutely perfect. Riveting, heartbreaking, exciting. Awesome characters, brilliant plotting, fantastic cast. Then the writers rebooted their own reboot, throwing everything away and replacing it with pretentious, nonsensical drivel. The show rotted away before our eyes and shambled along, a zombie of its former self, until the ridiculous S4 finale. One of the biggest disappointments in sci-fi TV history.
"LOST."
Feel better now?
It is great, is it not ?
Yeah, this reminds me of why I disliked BSG so much.
thumbs down Starbucks an her swearing
I always hated this supernatural/mystic/theocratic nonsense they kept weaving into the storylines. You’d think a spacefaring people would have outgrown the need to believe in and worship non-existent divine beings.