Thanks for taking the time in doing these reviews. Great hearing how equipment would work in real life. There are too many on this platform who review kit for the home studio environment. Your no nonsense Australian style is what makes your channel great.
Great review as ever! You're invaluable Andrew. I've been second guessing my backordered Aputure 1200d, wondering if two 600d's wouldn't be a better fit for my needs (and more available). Then saw the godox and wondered if it might be a similar and cheaper option. Alas, that ~400usd price difference seems fairly worth it for crmx and weather proofing. Still, I'm always happy to have more competition in the market! Brings us more features at better prices in the long run.
Those 26v vmounts can get expensive. Are solar generators by companies like EcoFlow and Bluetti available in Australia? They both make models well over 2000w and they have more modern lithium technology that extends cycle life. Thanks again for your work. It's the Gold Standard.
My biggest issue with godox is needing 2 different apps to use lights in the same series, and zero way to contact support. All Aputure lights use the same app, which is a feature I assumed would be obvious to any company. Very much doubt we'll buy anymore of their products. Aputure seems like the safest bet.
Went and looked at his 600D review, the bare COB at 3m of the Aperture light gets 2767 lux vs the 2960 for the M600D (and 2173 for the Forza 500). So it looks like Godox wins.
Been waiting specifically for this review! And you doing it couldn't be any more perfect. Let's see if it's my next investment for my solo video production ☺️
After watching, this seems to be the light for me since i do mostly corporate and live-streams. Good price, good build, good case/transport, powerful and pretty accurate color. Will do great with my domes and softboxes 👍 Thanks for the review. Will pull the trigger on this one.
I never liked Godox before, but this device looks very interesting. Finally they made something well build. Also not heavy and low price compared to others.
I bought a couple sl200ii because of Andrew's videos and i absolutely love it ! It's as good as and as bright as the 300d mk2 and costs a LOT less, i couldnt be happier !
Thank you! Based on your findings, I'm going with the Nanlite Fresnel for the M600D. I hope the Nanlite can take the heat of the light. I'd definitely not use the projector on it!
Follow-up: The Nanlite Fresnel DOES work beautifully on the Knowled 600. Just for a little extra info, the same Fresnel on the Knowled 300 is not very good, hardly able to shape the light with barndoors. As you said before, the diameter of the COB makes a big difference from modifier to modifier. Thank you!!!
You said Godox has its own projection mount but which is it for M600D? VSA seems to be for VL300 and below. GP seems to be for MD1200. And then they have some for their cheaper (round) lights as well (SL/SZ/ML). I don't see for M600D? So I'll have to buy Aputure or other third-party? Seems odd.
Hey Andrew, you mention potentiometer dimming with some of the Godox gear. Is that coming from documentation or are you determining that from your testing?
I always pay attention to each review but I miss today an opinion from the one who tried everything and who knows extremely well the market. What would be your choice today for example to light an itw, or different scene. Which flags or accessories to use? The process of creating an atmosphere. And again thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Hey Andrew, Will the Nanlite fresnel work similarly on the Godox VL150? I'm looking to get a fresnel attachment and the Nanlite one is both cheaper and comes with barn doors compared to the godox fresnel.
Love the channel! I had a question. I’m looking to buy my first big boy video light during the holidays. Main purpose is for interviews but maybe small projects on the side. I’m between the Godox M600d 740W Daylight , or the GVM SD600D 600W bi-color . Between both which would you recommend be the better light ?
Damn, this light is on sale now for euro 1061, seems like a no brainer? Only thing that's stopping me right now is that I need a different kind of stand to hold it up, I only have c-stands. Maybe I don't even need 600 watts, but it's always nice to have more power... maybe 300w is the sweet spot for me. I don't do indie filmmaking stuff, mostly corporate video's.
Great review dude. I just found out from another youtuber (and page 28 of the manual) that the controller actually allows for charging of one battery (side with the YELLOW battery romoval does support CHARGING). Have you tried it out?
I don't like to advise people on what to buy as your work could be different to mine. It's frustrating not having modifiers available. It's stopping me from buying lights at the moment
Can these high wattage COB lights take the place of HMI lights? Assuming LEDs are 10x more efficient than traditional lights, a 600w COB light should be equivalent to a 5K HMI light. Does this work? Or am I asking the wrong question? What I am really asking is will high power COB lights replace big HMI lights? Or do big HMI lights have other advantages that COB lights don't?
LEDs are ~10x more efficient than incandescent lights. HMIs are about ~4x more efficient than incandescent lights. This is all under absolute perfect conditions, which is of course impossible. HMIs are also technically are "closer" to natural daylight spectrum in the blue range.
Generally LED and HMI are pretty close in terms of wattage vs. output in most practical tests. LED has other advantages like dimming and instant on / off Also a well designed traditional tungsten light like a Dedo is not usually 10x less efficient than an LED. A 650w tungsten Dedo puts out about 1100lux at 56 degree full flood at 3 meters. An aputure 300Dii with 2x fresnel attachment is 5000 lux at 3 meters but the beam angle is only 45 degrees. Long story short - a well designed tungsten may only be 4x less efficient than an LED Fresnel when both units are well designed and have matching beam angles. Of course the tungsten has pretty much perfect colour render and very nice shadow quality…. Just too many other drawbacks for most people to consider using hot lights these days…
What!! Your aputure 600d review shows with reflector the center measure 8933 lux at 3m. so this godox one is double the brightness than aputure 600d. That is crazy.
Do you think these bowens mount fresnels going to take the place of dedicated fresnel lights? For a small to medium size lighting truck they seem to make a lot of sense. They allow you to add a fresnel to any bowens mount light for relatively little cost. I have the Nanlight fresnel and it is quite nice. Two drawbacks are that it is heavy so the light needs a c-stand and the case is a drawstring bag which does not allow for stacking of units.
Hello your biggest follower from Kenya (Africa). Kindly have another review between godox m600 and apature 600d . Thank you
2 года назад
Awesome review! i whis you could do one on the jinbei lights too ... their 500w cob is only 800€ and their 400w bicolor panel is only 750€ i already have the panels and i have no color meter... so far it is nice, a bit on the magenta side. I compared it to the rayzr mc400 on set and it was a easy match but yea i simply can not decide if the 500 w is any good
2 года назад
Hello Andrew. Sorry if this has already been asked but I am curious to know if you plan on reviewing the entry level Aputure panel P60C ? I’ll need a kit of 2 1x1 quick and lightweight panels for low budget corporate and mini doc shooting and I am trying to find the best balance of usability, light quality and output/price. Luxli Timpani seem to be the perfect solution and better on every aspect but regarding the output, I am not so sure. In the meantime Lupo’s superpanels pack a punch but lack remote control and need above 160W batteries which is an issue for me, just as Gemini Hard which also draw 200W and is way overpriced for me anyway.
Godox makes bank selling accessories. Definitely makes you wonder how cheaply we could build a clone of this light or its accessories. Pitty the output is restricted with batteries. Though I also wonder about the quality of the sustained output when using batteries.
When comparing to the Forza 500 is worth noting the Forza 500 is over 3 years old… of course a newer light is going to be better suited to the markets needs right now
Thanks for this review. The output and build quality look very good for the money. Would that low R12 value present a problem? My only other concern would be using the light against a window / daylight situation - like you said a 1/4 +green Gel would be needed to get it up to the daylight curve
Thanks for taking the time in doing these reviews. Great hearing how equipment would work in real life. There are too many on this platform who review kit for the home studio environment. Your no nonsense Australian style is what makes your channel great.
thanks again for all your work
Great review as ever! You're invaluable Andrew.
I've been second guessing my backordered Aputure 1200d, wondering if two 600d's wouldn't be a better fit for my needs (and more available).
Then saw the godox and wondered if it might be a similar and cheaper option. Alas, that ~400usd price difference seems fairly worth it for crmx and weather proofing.
Still, I'm always happy to have more competition in the market! Brings us more features at better prices in the long run.
If you have other light to be more creative go for the power if you don't, well two give you more flexibility on different setups
Thank you for including the metered f-stop info.
Those tubes might be heat pipes, they do move a very small amount of fluid and steam up and down to distribute heat amongst the fins.
That is exactly what they are. They are taking design elements from high end cpu coolers. Pretty good idea.
0:15 My Man Flexing on that light ... Awesome light
Those 26v vmounts can get expensive. Are solar generators by companies like EcoFlow and Bluetti available in Australia? They both make models well over 2000w and they have more modern lithium technology that extends cycle life. Thanks again for your work. It's the Gold Standard.
Too many short cuts and lack of pro features on this light for me but i'm sure it will do fine. Thanks again for a great review.
Affiliate linking to the light would help both you and the audience. Thanks for the review!
My biggest issue with godox is needing 2 different apps to use lights in the same series, and zero way to contact support. All Aputure lights use the same app, which is a feature I assumed would be obvious to any company. Very much doubt we'll buy anymore of their products. Aputure seems like the safest bet.
Thanks alot Andrew! Looks nice
Between the Godox M600D and Aputure 600D which would you say is brighter?
Following
Went and looked at his 600D review, the bare COB at 3m of the Aperture light gets 2767 lux vs the 2960 for the M600D (and 2173 for the Forza 500). So it looks like Godox wins.
Godox, but only a fraction in it
@@gaffergear Thanks for the reply
@@DaCarnival Cheers dude
I love how informative your reviews are.
Between this and the aputure 600D what are your takes?
I have been using several of those v-mount accessories for a while now. Such a game changer! And super inexpensive.
Been waiting specifically for this review!
And you doing it couldn't be any more perfect. Let's see if it's my next investment for my solo video production ☺️
After watching, this seems to be the light for me since i do mostly corporate and live-streams. Good price, good build, good case/transport, powerful and pretty accurate color. Will do great with my domes and softboxes 👍
Thanks for the review. Will pull the trigger on this one.
I never liked Godox before, but this device looks very interesting. Finally they made something well build. Also not heavy and low price compared to others.
I have some godox ad 300 pro's and it's super nice build.
I bought a couple sl200ii because of Andrew's videos and i absolutely love it ! It's as good as and as bright as the 300d mk2 and costs a LOT less, i couldnt be happier !
I bout a couple of godox Sl200ii. And I.have no complaints. Been a little more than a year, but it still holds strong.
Thank you! Based on your findings, I'm going with the Nanlite Fresnel for the M600D. I hope the Nanlite can take the heat of the light. I'd definitely not use the projector on it!
The fresnel will work on the forza720. Just make sure it's the white fresnel housing, not the black one
Follow-up: The Nanlite Fresnel DOES work beautifully on the Knowled 600. Just for a little extra info, the same Fresnel on the Knowled 300 is not very good, hardly able to shape the light with barndoors. As you said before, the diameter of the COB makes a big difference from modifier to modifier. Thank you!!!
You said Godox has its own projection mount but which is it for M600D? VSA seems to be for VL300 and below. GP seems to be for MD1200. And then they have some for their cheaper (round) lights as well (SL/SZ/ML). I don't see for M600D? So I'll have to buy Aputure or other third-party? Seems odd.
Hey Andrew, you mention potentiometer dimming with some of the Godox gear. Is that coming from documentation or are you determining that from your testing?
@@Dfproductions865foryou testing, with the frequency meter I get no frequency, and no flicker on high-speed shutters.
Thank you. Great review as always
Epic review thanks!!! You're the best
I always pay attention to each review but I miss today an opinion from the one who tried everything and who knows extremely well the market. What would be your choice today for example to light an itw, or different scene. Which flags or accessories to use? The process of creating an atmosphere. And again thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks.
Hey Andrew,
Will the Nanlite fresnel work similarly on the Godox VL150? I'm looking to get a fresnel attachment and the Nanlite one is both cheaper and comes with barn doors compared to the godox fresnel.
Thanks brother.
Love the channel! I had a question. I’m looking to buy my first big boy video light during the holidays. Main purpose is for interviews but maybe small projects on the side. I’m between the Godox M600d 740W Daylight , or the GVM SD600D 600W bi-color . Between both which would you recommend be the better light ?
I don't like recommending one light over another. It really comes down to personal preference.
I was wondering what is the best way to change the temperature of the M600D.. what gels do you recommend ? and how to attach them?
Damn, this light is on sale now for euro 1061, seems like a no brainer? Only thing that's stopping me right now is that I need a different kind of stand to hold it up, I only have c-stands. Maybe I don't even need 600 watts, but it's always nice to have more power... maybe 300w is the sweet spot for me. I don't do indie filmmaking stuff, mostly corporate video's.
You can use c-stand. It has both baby and junior pin option.
Great review dude. I just found out from another youtuber (and page 28
of the manual) that the controller actually allows for charging of one
battery (side with the YELLOW battery romoval does support CHARGING). Have you tried it out?
I have sold the light already so can't test that.
Been waiting for this one. Thank You very much! Could You please test the new M600Bi. Thank You
They should put a small battery inside to keep the fan running even if powered off at mains
Great Review, I cannot get hold of a Godox fresnel for 6 weeks, Should I just buy the Nanlux 206 instead, or wait? Not sure if worth the wait.
I don't like to advise people on what to buy as your work could be different to mine. It's frustrating not having modifiers available. It's stopping me from buying lights at the moment
@@gaffergear Thanks for the reply I'm going to wait for the Godox one, seems silly to only have the light available.
Did you get a chance to try the Aputure fresnel? I wonder if it's any better. Great review as always!
Same, I'd like to know how this light performs with the F10 fresnel
Can these high wattage COB lights take the place of HMI lights? Assuming LEDs are 10x more efficient than traditional lights, a 600w COB light should be equivalent to a 5K HMI light. Does this work? Or am I asking the wrong question? What I am really asking is will high power COB lights replace big HMI lights? Or do big HMI lights have other advantages that COB lights don't?
LEDs are ~10x more efficient than incandescent lights. HMIs are about ~4x more efficient than incandescent lights. This is all under absolute perfect conditions, which is of course impossible. HMIs are also technically are "closer" to natural daylight spectrum in the blue range.
@@luisa9628 Thank you for the information.
Generally LED and HMI are pretty close in terms of wattage vs. output in most practical tests. LED has other advantages like dimming and instant on / off
Also a well designed traditional tungsten light like a Dedo is not usually 10x less efficient than an LED. A 650w tungsten Dedo puts out about 1100lux at 56 degree full flood at 3 meters. An aputure 300Dii with 2x fresnel attachment is 5000 lux at 3 meters but the beam angle is only 45 degrees.
Long story short - a well designed tungsten may only be 4x less efficient than an LED Fresnel when both units are well designed and have matching beam angles. Of course the tungsten has pretty much perfect colour render and very nice shadow quality…. Just too many other drawbacks for most people to consider using hot lights these days…
Great review. Thanks!
Andrew, any info on putting the Aputure F10 Fresnel on this unit? How does it perform against the Godox Fresnel vs Nanlite?
No way could this take that weight unfortunately
What!! Your aputure 600d review shows with reflector the center measure 8933 lux at 3m. so this godox one is double the brightness than aputure 600d. That is crazy.
Remember thou, not the whole bean is that bright, so not great for a wide shot, but a heap of light for close up high speed stuff
Do you think these bowens mount fresnels going to take the place of dedicated fresnel lights? For a small to medium size lighting truck they seem to make a lot of sense. They allow you to add a fresnel to any bowens mount light for relatively little cost.
I have the Nanlight fresnel and it is quite nice. Two drawbacks are that it is heavy so the light needs a c-stand and the case is a drawstring bag which does not allow for stacking of units.
Hello your biggest follower from Kenya (Africa). Kindly have another review between godox m600 and apature 600d . Thank you
Awesome review! i whis you could do one on the jinbei lights too ... their 500w cob is only 800€ and their 400w bicolor panel is only 750€ i already have the panels and i have no color meter... so far it is nice, a bit on the magenta side. I compared it to the rayzr mc400 on set and it was a easy match but yea i simply can not decide if the 500 w is any good
Hello Andrew.
Sorry if this has already been asked but I am curious to know if you plan on reviewing the entry level Aputure panel P60C ?
I’ll need a kit of 2 1x1 quick and lightweight panels for low budget corporate and mini doc shooting and I am trying to find the best balance of usability, light quality and output/price.
Luxli Timpani seem to be the perfect solution and better on every aspect but regarding the output, I am not so sure.
In the meantime Lupo’s superpanels pack a punch but lack remote control and need above 160W batteries which is an issue for me, just as Gemini Hard which also draw 200W and is way overpriced for me anyway.
The P60C is awesome, I was involved in the beta testing and was very impressed. But I won't be reviewing it because I have limited time.
@@gaffergear I understand, thanks anyway for the reply and all your great work.
I am waiting for the day we have that kind of power all in one unit. I don't need another spot that can fail overtime from use.
Godox makes bank selling accessories. Definitely makes you wonder how cheaply we could build a clone of this light or its accessories. Pitty the output is restricted with batteries. Though I also wonder about the quality of the sustained output when using batteries.
Anyone know the beam anlge for the included reflector?
Any plans to do the Nova P600C soon?
Waiting for final release firmware
@@gaffergear Is there an ETA?
@@jaylewis2611 probably closer to NAB.
When comparing to the Forza 500 is worth noting the Forza 500 is over 3 years old… of course a newer light is going to be better suited to the markets needs right now
Thanks for this review. The output and build quality look very good for the money. Would that low R12 value present a problem?
My only other concern would be using the light against a window / daylight situation - like you said a 1/4 +green Gel would be needed to get it up to the daylight curve
Not at all, unless you are filming something that exact colour. That seems to be the dominant low value on all LEDs this year in CRI
Where can I get one of those stands?
Almost anywhere. It may be called different things.
Baby combo.
Small combo.
sir this is new light
Very new
What are the downsides of PWM? I really dislike PWM anything, I'm highly affected by it...phones, overhead lights, etc.
Shooting high speed you can get flicker when dimmed very low
Just wanted to point out that 5.5kg is actually 12 lbs
tubes are heatpipes filed with gas...
plz tell me
12lbs. = 5.5kg
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