The thing that actually matters when picking a class in Fire Emblem is maximizing how many Wyverns you can have in order to make an army of dragons. XD
Mate, this is not game of thrones.... they are not breath fire! I can have an army of white and black magic or an army of archers, or an army of paladins.
Good video, I hear lots of people trash the master classes for "bad growths" so this helps disprove that. Another thing to consider is movement. Even though the mounted horse classes all give -Spd when mounted, you get extra movement. Up to you whether or not that movement is worth the loss in Spd.
Who need growthrates anyway when you are lvl 30? Growthrates are only relevant for the first 10 to 15 levels (depending on your basestats). Even if you had bad luck with your growthrates the promo bonuses will balance it out.
I'd argue that Mortal Savant deserves a bit of a thrashing (in the case of Felix, anyway) Mortal Savant gets one more movement compared to SW which is good, but theres actually a gap of 30 between Savant and SM when it comes to speed growth, which is pretty huge imo. Savant doesn't even give Felix anything special, you can give him a Levin Sword+ for 1-3 range, he only gets Thoron and Thunder lol
@@xXOldCampXx My opinion on this has somewhat changed since I posted that. I agree Mortal Savant is definitely one of the weaker master classes. I think the ideal users for that class are actually Dorothea, Marianne, Ingrid, and Lysithea (though those last 2 are probably better off in other classes). It's more of a side grade mage class than a physical one. Assassin should honestly be promoted to master class status. It has the 6 Mov while also keeping Swordfaire. It just loses SM's Sword Crit which isn't that big of a deal.
@@sdw4527 You can always dismount after you move to get that speed back at the cost of being ability to canto that turn, also helps protect against movement weaknesses.
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It is...but between the stride and dancer classes, it's not the end all be all. If you have someone that can move anywhere on the field but is screwed because they lack the other important stats like speed, strength, res, dex...then they're nothing but a sitting duck. I personally value those four stats more highly than movement since there are so many ways to add movement to every battle simply through a dancer and gambits. I had stride gambits on two people and a dancer for movement in my last playthrough and I had no issue at all covering the map very quickly. Add on the fact that gambits don't require rng, either...just training your authority (unlike the stats).
sj4iy most high movement classes aren’t as statistically deficient as people say they are. The video compares Paladin to High Lord, which is fine for the point he was making, but is not a reflection of the quality of mounted units. High lord has one of the best speed modifiers in the game and is a personal class to Dimitri. Paladins in particular are bemoaned for the deficient speed modifier and growth, but most units who are good in those classes, either won’t be super fast even in other classes or have high enough speed for it to not matter. Ferdinand and Sylvain are not going to be speed demons even on other class paths and Leonie and Ingrid have high enough speed for the class stats not to matter. And then you have fliers, which just break the natural order completely with good stats, high movement, and completely ignoring all terrain. Even when utilizing stride or dancers, mounted and flying units still come out on top because they can make more efficient use out of those one turn boosts. In short, mounted units do not have shitty enough stats to be worse than their infantry peers.
100% why I'm keeping my Dimitri in the Lord class family even though Lord is kind of a meh class in Three Houses. His bling is OUTSTANDING and is actively making me upset that I can't make him wear his combat outfit in the monastery (despite the game letting us wear the Monastery outfit for combat... why can we have one and not the other TT_TT)
What actually matters when picking a class is making your eye look at Macedon, Thracia, Bern, Grado (kinda) and Daein, and look at how glorious they are, because of their wyverns.
Great thoughts! I have been struggling when comparing growth stats. I did the whole spreadsheet thing looking at all classes growth rate and all characters base, but now need to look at the increases.
There is definitely cases where classes matter like warrior Ingrid changes her from a speed master with no hp and str to an actual well rounded character. But the lords have 375-380 base growth rates there going to be fine regardless.
Alexander Luna Ferdinand is the best dodge tank. Ingrid gets seraphim too I’m going from a warrior line for hp to a mage end game line to be a dark knight with cadues staff
@@christopherholfeld8137 im just now playing black eagles so dont know about ferdinand, but ingrid, as well as other pegasi, have been great evade attackers as well. ive never made her into a mage so i dont know but if she has seraphim she can be a great monster killer.
Ingrid as a falcon knight can literally run rings around her enemies...she can't be touched at all. Who needs high hp and strength when enemies can't hit you?
Most physical females really benefit from deathblow. But darting blow can be superfluous on some units who are already fast enough to double attack. That being said, it’s still a great skill on anyone!
I was grateful for teaching me a few things for this great game so I liked the video. However, you said subscribing to you will make your day so ... here I go. I hope it makes your day lol. Thank you for the tips and for letting me know where I can get access to those numbers myself. I hope to see keep growing. Good luck
I would argue that increasing growths on a characters key stats are important if said key statgrowth is low. Ashe and Ignatz really need strength, so Brigand is most likely the best intermediate class for them (of course the main reason would be death blow, which is amazing for them) but even a few points of STR can make a huge difference if that character is quick. It improves their damage output and eve helps them be faster, because higher str allows them to weild weapons with less speedloss. 35% str seems like too much of a gamble for me, 45% is workable on the other hand IMO.
Could have been slightly more precise with better examples, such as a unit bad in one stat with a class "supposed" to fix his stat, or taking all stage into account. Still I appreciate the effort of pushing growth rates out of people main concern. Even I, despite being well aware of it sometimes fall into this pitfall.
Nice song on the background. I'm pretty old school myself, so I still have growth rates in high regard... but in FE3H I just pick class for the mastery 8/10 times
You should of done lvl 41 as that would yield whole numbers. Level 1 base stats plus 40 levelups. For each 5 points of growth, you will get on average 1 stat point per 20 levelups.
Well done I most agreed it bassicly what I was saying in an other comment (yah sure growth rate aren't super important but still in the end game if you stay as a cav that give -10 % for 30 lvl or something + there -2 SPD or something the classe give it just had up to about 10ish overtime.) Also yah Basse stats could be nice to show how it work (basse stats of a classe.) For exemple does it worth it to go get forteress knight 17 basse DEF or it doesn't things like that could be nice too look at what Classe give what good basse stats like what Warlock give 17 magic or so? like it may help a raphael that want to go whit a mix of magic / physical for some reason :D
So, to answer everything, yes if you compare 2 classes with completely different focuses on just 1 stat, on the (very) long term, the difference will start becoming meaningful, but even then you end up neglecting advantages covering most of the game for small late game gains in a game with no online battle. When it comes to promotion bonuses, those are mostly there for making anything "viable" you can easily take advantage of thief and armored knight, but for advanced classes it would mean investing a ton of learning into useless skills. Getting A in magic for anyone not being a mage is basically unthinkable, for forteresse knights, it still ask for "B" in heavy armor, an axe user may be able to pass it with only a C and a bit of luck but it's hardly ever worth to hunt those promo bonuses outside of NG+
There's also the stat bonuses upon promotion you get if you don't meet the minimum stat requirements for the class. Which is great since they're permanent.
Yeah. I had my Lysithea at S+ Reason, S Faith, A Authority, C Lance, and A Riding, planning on making a dark knight, so I certified her in paladin making her 7 strength stat for me at level 25 into 19. Which she leveled up at 26 into 20.
Fire Emblem Discussion - Can you do a Video on Min-Maxing Stat Bonus ? E.g. Promoting Mage to Fortress Knight for added Base Defence and Promoting say Sylvain to Mage for added Base Magic and to utilise his budding talent. Thanks for the great videos both of you!!
Moving from mage to for. Knight for a base defence isn't really the way to go, going for min-max stats may seem like a beautiful thing but I'd suggest against it but you do you. Moving from mage to most physical classes hinders you since most physical, if not all, prevent you from using your magic spells so jumping Lindhart to a knight just makes it so you have a character with low str and Def playing a tank role with a dead magic stat (I haven't used fort. Knight so idk if it prevents magic use like peg. Knight) also you might get class stat bonuses, for example a fort knight might give +3 def, but you'll lose that or have it adjusted when moving to another class, especially one outside that promotion line. There is a way to min max stats and that's probably game manipulation. But not many are going to hit max stats unfortunately.
As for the topic of budding talents, use serenes forest, any budding talent that is a combat art is niche and not as good as a budding talent that is an ability, i.e. Marianne's budding talent in Lance is frozen Lance combat art. Hilda's budding talent in heavy armor is seal speed ability.
Dyl C I don’t think you get my point - in FE 3 Houses you can pass a certification exam, get the base stat bonus from that class and revert to your monk/mage class via reclass. You only lose class modifiers on class change, but some classes increase your base stats too and you keep base stat increases no matter what.
@@AnimePigeon if that's the case then my apologies and pardon my ignorance. Again you do you but at some point bouncing from class to class for base stat gains will probably slow some characters down in some areas. I'm not sure if enough testing has been done still so as far as I know you may be onto something. But taking that path leads to a lot of teaching grinding. Of course weekend seminars can help with chunks of experience being handed out but do you really need to invest in heavy armor for characters like Lindhart for a few def stats? Considering some have a negative affinity for some skills you'll spend most if not all of the game getting people to c/c+ skills and what kind of pay out are you looking at then since you're taking focus from making them what you need. Again, you do you. Anything can work in this game, you might be onto something but it might require more grinding then I see necessary. Maybe you're onto something, I'll keep it in mind as I watch videos and try things out
I don’t think it’s worth going as far as fortress knight since that requires a heavy focus into armor and axes on a mage to pass which can hinder them in learning spells but it could be worth it to at least do armor knight depending on the character since I think that still brings it up to 14 or something like that. That being said in ng+ certainly worth it.
Training Dimitri for Wyvern Lord is a total pain in the Axe. Bow Knight Dimitri all the way! Anyway, yeah, I get it, overvaluing Growths is a pitfalls, but since you asked, what exactly is the difference between a classes' base stats and its class-change bonuses?
Class base stats are the minimum stats a character who has learned that class can have meaning that if someone with 15 strength (without class bonuses) were to pass the warrior exam which has a base of 19 they’d gain 4 strength and that is done for every stat that is under the base of the class learned (used warrior and strength since that’s one I know off the top of my head) where class change bonuses are added to a unit’s base stats as long as they’re in that class
TazTheYellow glad to help, I only bothered figuring it out because lysithea with an axe is very much an experience I put myself through at one point which naturally made warrior an outstanding option
Lethality is not very useful, it's rarely gonna be helpful because of it's low activation rate. If you want to use bernie at her best make use of her personal skill and the combat art she gets at C+ lance (vengeance) to do a lot of damage when she's at low hp. For class you can either make her into cavalier to paladin to bow knight for the mobility and better combat with lances or you can go archer and so on to attack far away from danger. Also get her budding talent to pass through the ennemy lines
They seem pretty important, rng seems to make a huge difference in this game. My caspar and Petra are as good or better than byleth and edelgard and I've seen others say that's happened to other characters instead for them.
@@louiesatterwhite3885 she has on all 4 paths for me. Shes a mainstay on any route for me. I've had some say she didnt do as great and alot of people day caspar is total shit but he was a monster for me..but Petra is inclined to be a monster for sure caspar I guess I got lucky. Some have said their Ferdnand Von Aegir was like that for them he was very decent for me but not Petra or caspar good. They were both better than byleth or edelgard on that run.
I wonder if 0% growth runs are possible. I mean all your Students start out weak and miserable. Recruiting the right people into your army would be a must for such a challenge because I dont see someone killing a boss like Claude, Dimitri or Edelgard with just basestats.
Uhh I don’t think it would be as bad as you think, you could get everyone to mid 20s in a lot of stats from class certification bonuses, endgame would be either bait and chip or a solo run with whoever got the stat boosters but I can see it being a fun struggle
I've had two charaters end up in the 60s. It's harder to reach it but it can be done if you are okay with an unequal team to level up a few characters more or just really love spending most of the game just grinding.
Growths matter a little less in same cases and with ng+ compared to previous fe titles. Mortal savant lysinthia doesn't care about that -10 speed growth since her base str is about 35 to begin with so she's only doubling knight class characters and those affected by -speed mods (seal speed, swarm, etc.) Of course there are always ways to optimize characters but also keep in mind depending on one's route you're looking at 18 ~ 22 chapters so you won't need as many level ups seeing as the max or "required" level will be lower. People will most likely be on par. I've only played hard/classic but apparently on normal one can farm aux battles? If that the case it's even more a moot point. Since the level ups are rng and someone can see an rng screwed Lorenz, like I did, people will drop some characters since you get about 17 units (route depending) outside of house recruited characters. Point is some will be good and others won't be. I ran my last 4 ~ 6 chapters with a critical heavy byleth with wo dai+ looking at 55+crit on hard classic. Sometimes hitting 87 crit w/ windsweep. So even if all characters get rng screwed buff your avatar, get s swords and forge that dai.
Who needs a speedblessed Lysithea anyway? My S+ Swordrank Mortal savant Lysithea one hits boses with her Thundersword/Lewynsword. Another secret tip from me: wrath Vantage on a killer axe Wyvern-knight/Lord.
@@Stachelbeeerchen wrath/vantage has been the way to go since path of radiance. But that was a partial point. Some characters don't need some stats to perform or Excell in some classes
Lysithea has a base speed growth of 50%. The base 35% str isnt great, but if you build her towards dark knight you'll be able to certify her in paladin to get a stat improvement. My level 26 Lysithea has 20 strength, and around 35 in magic, speed, and dex.
Pretty sure the level cap is 99. I say this due to datamined information on infernal difficulty which is just capped enemies with stats scaled based on their growth rates atm
I'd still rather have the +2 movement than a measly 4 speed increase ANY day. Whaddya know, more bad advice in a FED video. Am beginning to think this channel was made solely to mislead fans with poor suggestions.
You're being a bit harsh, even if you're not wholly incorrect. I think the issue with this video is the examples given, Dimitri is arguably the best character in the game when it comes to growth rates so using him as a comparison to prove a point leads to biased information. It's only made worse by comparing an infantry class to a cavalry class and discrediting how important movement is in a tactics game like this. But there's a kernel of truth to this, despite all of that. Growth rates aren't the end all be all for some units, and choosing classes just to get a 5 or even 10% growth rate isn't the way to go. Where this video definitely went wrong is by not mentioning (at least in a way that matters) what should actually be making you consider classes: Mastered Skills such as Death Blow and movement types.
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The thing that actually matters when picking a class in Fire Emblem is maximizing how many Wyverns you can have in order to make an army of dragons. XD
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Glory to Thracia!
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Mate, this is not game of thrones.... they are not breath fire! I can have an army of white and black magic or an army of archers, or an army of paladins.
Good video, I hear lots of people trash the master classes for "bad growths" so this helps disprove that. Another thing to consider is movement. Even though the mounted horse classes all give -Spd when mounted, you get extra movement. Up to you whether or not that movement is worth the loss in Spd.
Who need growthrates anyway when you are lvl 30? Growthrates are only relevant for the first 10 to 15 levels (depending on your basestats). Even if you had bad luck with your growthrates the promo bonuses will balance it out.
I'd argue that Mortal Savant deserves a bit of a thrashing (in the case of Felix, anyway) Mortal Savant gets one more movement compared to SW which is good, but theres actually a gap of 30 between Savant and SM when it comes to speed growth, which is pretty huge imo. Savant doesn't even give Felix anything special, you can give him a Levin Sword+ for 1-3 range, he only gets Thoron and Thunder lol
@@xXOldCampXx My opinion on this has somewhat changed since I posted that. I agree Mortal Savant is definitely one of the weaker master classes. I think the ideal users for that class are actually Dorothea, Marianne, Ingrid, and Lysithea (though those last 2 are probably better off in other classes). It's more of a side grade mage class than a physical one.
Assassin should honestly be promoted to master class status. It has the 6 Mov while also keeping Swordfaire. It just loses SM's Sword Crit which isn't that big of a deal.
@@sdw4527 You can always dismount after you move to get that speed back at the cost of being ability to canto that turn, also helps protect against movement weaknesses.
@@mavoc3094 you can get about 3 points of speed back by dismounting, but you still suffer the -Speed% growth rate on level up.
I like how the background music is from octopath travellers
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Only problem is almost all the advice he gives is bad.
Two words: Movement good.
It is...but between the stride and dancer classes, it's not the end all be all. If you have someone that can move anywhere on the field but is screwed because they lack the other important stats like speed, strength, res, dex...then they're nothing but a sitting duck. I personally value those four stats more highly than movement since there are so many ways to add movement to every battle simply through a dancer and gambits. I had stride gambits on two people and a dancer for movement in my last playthrough and I had no issue at all covering the map very quickly. Add on the fact that gambits don't require rng, either...just training your authority (unlike the stats).
sj4iy most high movement classes aren’t as statistically deficient as people say they are. The video compares Paladin to High Lord, which is fine for the point he was making, but is not a reflection of the quality of mounted units. High lord has one of the best speed modifiers in the game and is a personal class to Dimitri. Paladins in particular are bemoaned for the deficient speed modifier and growth, but most units who are good in those classes, either won’t be super fast even in other classes or have high enough speed for it to not matter. Ferdinand and Sylvain are not going to be speed demons even on other class paths and Leonie and Ingrid have high enough speed for the class stats not to matter. And then you have fliers, which just break the natural order completely with good stats, high movement, and completely ignoring all terrain. Even when utilizing stride or dancers, mounted and flying units still come out on top because they can make more efficient use out of those one turn boosts. In short, mounted units do not have shitty enough stats to be worse than their infantry peers.
OR I COULD USE THE STRIDE GAMBIT
This is why i like Dedue. Yeah he has terrible movement but having Def +4 (or 7 i think), for every wait turn makes him more good for me in my book
The only thing that matters is the aesthetic
100% why I'm keeping my Dimitri in the Lord class family even though Lord is kind of a meh class in Three Houses. His bling is OUTSTANDING and is actively making me upset that I can't make him wear his combat outfit in the monastery (despite the game letting us wear the Monastery outfit for combat... why can we have one and not the other TT_TT)
i see growth rates more as bonus protection for getting RNG screwed * looking at you ingrid with 26 strength at the end of blue lions run *
AsbakNL SAME. I beefed her up with stat boosting items so she could actually kill people on the final map in one turn.
the thing that matters is which two units get placed into flying group task first to max wyvern riding skills before the rest of the party
What actually matters when picking a class is making your eye look at Macedon, Thracia, Bern, Grado (kinda) and Daein, and look at how glorious they are, because of their wyverns.
Great thoughts! I have been struggling when comparing growth stats. I did the whole spreadsheet thing looking at all classes growth rate and all characters base, but now need to look at the increases.
There is definitely cases where classes matter like warrior Ingrid changes her from a speed master with no hp and str to an actual well rounded character. But the lords have 375-380 base growth rates there going to be fine regardless.
no hp doesnt matter when you can just put an evasion ring on her and she never gets hit lol.
Alexander Luna Ferdinand is the best dodge tank. Ingrid gets seraphim too I’m going from a warrior line for hp to a mage end game line to be a dark knight with cadues staff
@@christopherholfeld8137 im just now playing black eagles so dont know about ferdinand, but ingrid, as well as other pegasi, have been great evade attackers as well. ive never made her into a mage so i dont know but if she has seraphim she can be a great monster killer.
Ingrid as a falcon knight can literally run rings around her enemies...she can't be touched at all. Who needs high hp and strength when enemies can't hit you?
sj4iy she’s good at evasion but I’m playing a new game and she got str screwed and does worse chip damage than a lvl5 archer
Thanks for explaining this so well! I understand how classes influence character growth :)
I have a question, would you consider it a trap to send all physical units through Brigand for Deathblow? That's what I do, lol.
Deathblow is one of the best skills in the game. So not a terrible idea
@@AdamWithFED Thanks :) How about the Death/Darting Blow combination for female units?
Most physical females really benefit from deathblow. But darting blow can be superfluous on some units who are already fast enough to double attack. That being said, it’s still a great skill on anyone!
thank you for this so much dude ive been playing since awakening and have always wanted to find a vid explaining stuff like this. Cheers
Stats can be easy fixed if you farm a lot of seeds. I generaly get 1 or 2 stat upgrades per farm.
Didnt get Shoes of the Wind from farming yet tho.
That would be busted!
I was grateful for teaching me a few things for this great game so I liked the video. However, you said subscribing to you will make your day so ... here I go. I hope it makes your day lol. Thank you for the tips and for letting me know where I can get access to those numbers myself. I hope to see keep growing. Good luck
I would argue that increasing growths on a characters key stats are important if said key statgrowth is low. Ashe and Ignatz really need strength, so Brigand is most likely the best intermediate class for them (of course the main reason would be death blow, which is amazing for them) but even a few points of STR can make a huge difference if that character is quick. It improves their damage output and eve helps them be faster, because higher str allows them to weild weapons with less speedloss. 35% str seems like too much of a gamble for me, 45% is workable on the other hand IMO.
Also, Ignatz has budding potential in reason, so you can take a dip in dark mage for poison strike.
Could have been slightly more precise with better examples, such as a unit bad in one stat with a class "supposed" to fix his stat, or taking all stage into account.
Still I appreciate the effort of pushing growth rates out of people main concern. Even I, despite being well aware of it sometimes fall into this pitfall.
Xakuray hey, he said the thing!
Nice song on the background. I'm pretty old school myself, so I still have growth rates in high regard... but in FE3H I just pick class for the mastery 8/10 times
You should of done lvl 41 as that would yield whole numbers. Level 1 base stats plus 40 levelups. For each 5 points of growth, you will get on average 1 stat point per 20 levelups.
Well done I most agreed it bassicly what I was saying in an other comment (yah sure growth rate aren't super important but still in the end game if you stay as a cav that give -10 % for 30 lvl or something + there -2 SPD or something the classe give it just had up to about 10ish overtime.)
Also yah Basse stats could be nice to show how it work (basse stats of a classe.) For exemple does it worth it to go get forteress knight 17 basse DEF or it doesn't things like that could be nice too look at what Classe give what good basse stats like what Warlock give 17 magic or so? like it may help a raphael that want to go whit a mix of magic / physical for some reason :D
So, to answer everything, yes if you compare 2 classes with completely different focuses on just 1 stat, on the (very) long term, the difference will start becoming meaningful, but even then you end up neglecting advantages covering most of the game for small late game gains in a game with no online battle.
When it comes to promotion bonuses, those are mostly there for making anything "viable" you can easily take advantage of thief and armored knight, but for advanced classes it would mean investing a ton of learning into useless skills. Getting A in magic for anyone not being a mage is basically unthinkable, for forteresse knights, it still ask for "B" in heavy armor, an axe user may be able to pass it with only a C and a bit of luck but it's hardly ever worth to hunt those promo bonuses outside of NG+
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Well thx for the input
Hey man, just getting into the game, this helps a lot.
There's also the stat bonuses upon promotion you get if you don't meet the minimum stat requirements for the class. Which is great since they're permanent.
Yeah. I had my Lysithea at S+ Reason, S Faith, A Authority, C Lance, and A Riding, planning on making a dark knight, so I certified her in paladin making her 7 strength stat for me at level 25 into 19. Which she leveled up at 26 into 20.
Fire Emblem Discussion - Can you do a Video on Min-Maxing Stat Bonus ?
E.g. Promoting Mage to Fortress Knight for added Base Defence and Promoting say Sylvain to Mage for added Base Magic and to utilise his budding talent.
Thanks for the great videos both of you!!
Moving from mage to for. Knight for a base defence isn't really the way to go, going for min-max stats may seem like a beautiful thing but I'd suggest against it but you do you. Moving from mage to most physical classes hinders you since most physical, if not all, prevent you from using your magic spells so jumping Lindhart to a knight just makes it so you have a character with low str and Def playing a tank role with a dead magic stat (I haven't used fort. Knight so idk if it prevents magic use like peg. Knight) also you might get class stat bonuses, for example a fort knight might give +3 def, but you'll lose that or have it adjusted when moving to another class, especially one outside that promotion line. There is a way to min max stats and that's probably game manipulation. But not many are going to hit max stats unfortunately.
As for the topic of budding talents, use serenes forest, any budding talent that is a combat art is niche and not as good as a budding talent that is an ability, i.e. Marianne's budding talent in Lance is frozen Lance combat art. Hilda's budding talent in heavy armor is seal speed ability.
Dyl C I don’t think you get my point - in FE 3 Houses you can pass a certification exam, get the base stat bonus from that class and revert to your monk/mage class via reclass. You only lose class modifiers on class change, but some classes increase your base stats too and you keep base stat increases no matter what.
@@AnimePigeon if that's the case then my apologies and pardon my ignorance. Again you do you but at some point bouncing from class to class for base stat gains will probably slow some characters down in some areas. I'm not sure if enough testing has been done still so as far as I know you may be onto something. But taking that path leads to a lot of teaching grinding. Of course weekend seminars can help with chunks of experience being handed out but do you really need to invest in heavy armor for characters like Lindhart for a few def stats? Considering some have a negative affinity for some skills you'll spend most if not all of the game getting people to c/c+ skills and what kind of pay out are you looking at then since you're taking focus from making them what you need. Again, you do you. Anything can work in this game, you might be onto something but it might require more grinding then I see necessary. Maybe you're onto something, I'll keep it in mind as I watch videos and try things out
I don’t think it’s worth going as far as fortress knight since that requires a heavy focus into armor and axes on a mage to pass which can hinder them in learning spells but it could be worth it to at least do armor knight depending on the character since I think that still brings it up to 14 or something like that. That being said in ng+ certainly worth it.
Training Dimitri for Wyvern Lord is a total pain in the Axe. Bow Knight Dimitri all the way!
Anyway, yeah, I get it, overvaluing Growths is a pitfalls, but since you asked, what exactly is the difference between a classes' base stats and its class-change bonuses?
Also, excellent choice in background music, right there!
Class base stats are the minimum stats a character who has learned that class can have meaning that if someone with 15 strength (without class bonuses) were to pass the warrior exam which has a base of 19 they’d gain 4 strength and that is done for every stat that is under the base of the class learned (used warrior and strength since that’s one I know off the top of my head) where class change bonuses are added to a unit’s base stats as long as they’re in that class
@@wolftamerwolfcorp7465 Fascinating! I'd have initially suspected it of being the other way around somehow, but thank you!
TazTheYellow glad to help, I only bothered figuring it out because lysithea with an axe is very much an experience I put myself through at one point which naturally made warrior an outstanding option
My army mostly like 2 dark knights, 2 bow knights...the rest? Get the wyverns ready!
I'm so confused...
So how does one level?
Is my lethality Bernadetta useful, or did I mess up?!
Lethality is not very useful, it's rarely gonna be helpful because of it's low activation rate. If you want to use bernie at her best make use of her personal skill and the combat art she gets at C+ lance (vengeance) to do a lot of damage when she's at low hp. For class you can either make her into cavalier to paladin to bow knight for the mobility and better combat with lances or you can go archer and so on to attack far away from danger. Also get her budding talent to pass through the ennemy lines
Thought: do formula base+class stat buff+class growth
They seem pretty important, rng seems to make a huge difference in this game. My caspar and Petra are as good or better than byleth and edelgard and I've seen others say that's happened to other characters instead for them.
then that's RNG, not Growths
growths are statistics
RNG is chance
Petra has really good growths in speed, strength, and hp. She naturally ends up very good.
@@louiesatterwhite3885 she has on all 4 paths for me. Shes a mainstay on any route for me. I've had some say she didnt do as great and alot of people day caspar is total shit but he was a monster for me..but Petra is inclined to be a monster for sure caspar I guess I got lucky. Some have said their Ferdnand Von Aegir was like that for them he was very decent for me but not Petra or caspar good. They were both better than byleth or edelgard on that run.
@@tonymack on my church playthrough my caspar got a lot of speed, on my current crimson flower playthrough caspar is level 20 with like 7 speed.
I wonder if 0% growth runs are possible. I mean all your Students start out weak and miserable.
Recruiting the right people into your army would be a must for such a challenge because I dont see someone killing a boss like Claude, Dimitri or Edelgard with just basestats.
Uhh I don’t think it would be as bad as you think, you could get everyone to mid 20s in a lot of stats from class certification bonuses, endgame would be either bait and chip or a solo run with whoever got the stat boosters but I can see it being a fun struggle
Can someone tell me what the point is in giving gifts to the other professors? Thanks!
Raises support level with them. I don’t think there are other benefits.
I think the level cap is 60. My characters went up to level 52 53
James Phillabaum it’s 99
I've had two charaters end up in the 60s. It's harder to reach it but it can be done if you are okay with an unequal team to level up a few characters more or just really love spending most of the game just grinding.
Growths matter a little less in same cases and with ng+ compared to previous fe titles. Mortal savant lysinthia doesn't care about that -10 speed growth since her base str is about 35 to begin with so she's only doubling knight class characters and those affected by -speed mods (seal speed, swarm, etc.) Of course there are always ways to optimize characters but also keep in mind depending on one's route you're looking at 18 ~ 22 chapters so you won't need as many level ups seeing as the max or "required" level will be lower. People will most likely be on par. I've only played hard/classic but apparently on normal one can farm aux battles? If that the case it's even more a moot point. Since the level ups are rng and someone can see an rng screwed Lorenz, like I did, people will drop some characters since you get about 17 units (route depending) outside of house recruited characters. Point is some will be good and others won't be. I ran my last 4 ~ 6 chapters with a critical heavy byleth with wo dai+ looking at 55+crit on hard classic. Sometimes hitting 87 crit w/ windsweep. So even if all characters get rng screwed buff your avatar, get s swords and forge that dai.
Who needs a speedblessed Lysithea anyway? My S+ Swordrank Mortal savant Lysithea one hits boses with her Thundersword/Lewynsword.
Another secret tip from me: wrath Vantage on a killer axe Wyvern-knight/Lord.
@@Stachelbeeerchen wrath/vantage has been the way to go since path of radiance. But that was a partial point. Some characters don't need some stats to perform or Excell in some classes
Lysithea has a base speed growth of 50%. The base 35% str isnt great, but if you build her towards dark knight you'll be able to certify her in paladin to get a stat improvement. My level 26 Lysithea has 20 strength, and around 35 in magic, speed, and dex.
The level cap in this game is 50, not 40.
ZimonZieClown The level cap is 60
@@jamesphillabaum1970 Is it? Alright, my mistake.
Pretty sure the level cap is 99. I say this due to datamined information on infernal difficulty which is just capped enemies with stats scaled based on their growth rates atm
@@wolftamerwolfcorp7465 Infernal difficulty likely isn't finished yet. I don't think Level 99 Edelgard in the mock battle is legit, man.
ZimonZieClown I know they’re placeholder entities but the fact that they are that high leveled implies it to be the level cap
There is no "pick a class" in this game. Each unit can have 5 classes if you pay enough attention to tutoring them
I'd still rather have the +2 movement than a measly 4 speed increase ANY day. Whaddya know, more bad advice in a FED video. Am beginning to think this channel was made solely to mislead fans with poor suggestions.
You're being a bit harsh, even if you're not wholly incorrect. I think the issue with this video is the examples given, Dimitri is arguably the best character in the game when it comes to growth rates so using him as a comparison to prove a point leads to biased information. It's only made worse by comparing an infantry class to a cavalry class and discrediting how important movement is in a tactics game like this.
But there's a kernel of truth to this, despite all of that. Growth rates aren't the end all be all for some units, and choosing classes just to get a 5 or even 10% growth rate isn't the way to go. Where this video definitely went wrong is by not mentioning (at least in a way that matters) what should actually be making you consider classes: Mastered Skills such as Death Blow and movement types.