Is Olivia Rodrigo Good?

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • I don't usually talk about pop music on here, because as we all know, none of us particularly like it. However Olivia Rodrigo is currently one of the biggest pop stars in the world right now and she seems to be drawing a lot of influence from rock and indie bands. What does this mean? Are the masses actually craving guitars and riffs? Is she the gateway music to draw more people into the light? What do you think?
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Комментарии • 607

  • @petersmith2112
    @petersmith2112 Год назад +615

    As Mark and Lard always said "when you're older every song can sound like a something you've heard before. But that doesn't mean it's not great"

    • @jamesfurfaro4950
      @jamesfurfaro4950 Год назад +4

      I agree with the last line. But there are definitely some songs that give me a feeling I’ve never felt before. Runaway by Kanye. Family Tree by Ethel Cain. Posing For Cars by Japanese Breakfast. Dust by Frank Ocean. I’m really not that old though, only 25, and maybe there are songs that already exist like them.

    • @PKFlex
      @PKFlex Год назад

      Is it worth owt? @googlemoderatorteam3995

    • @muzikkification
      @muzikkification Год назад +3

      It makes sense. Most forms of art are less original now because so much has already been done

    • @mrstaggerlee1975
      @mrstaggerlee1975 Год назад

      Cobblers

    • @peterpringle01
      @peterpringle01 Год назад

      Mushunt GrrrrrrrrrrrrumBALLLL!!!!

  • @megaascension2748
    @megaascension2748 Год назад +106

    I really love the humor in this song- like the lines "And I told my friends I was asleep/But I never said where or in whose sheets". It reminds me of Wet Leg as well.

    • @j-brain
      @j-brain Год назад +7

      it's so wet leg it would win a blindfold taste test for which leg is more wet

    • @All-ze9cl
      @All-ze9cl Год назад

      i LOVE wet leg

  • @michaelsharkey4255
    @michaelsharkey4255 Год назад +118

    I really like how she creates the song structures. It’s very unique and combines indie and alt rock together. She’s definitely got talent.

  • @kevlomax5925
    @kevlomax5925 Год назад +109

    My teenage daughters introduced me to Olivia Rodrigo's music. I really loved the song 'Driver's License' from the first album. I watched her do a Tiny Desk Concert and was really impressed by how she seemed to be so immersed in her own performance leaving nothing on the table. I listened to the new track yesterday with my daughters and I too thought of Icky Thump immediately, telling them excitedly about it and also what a stylophone is. I might let them drag me along to a gig 😉

    • @xtinaroma
      @xtinaroma Год назад +3

      I don't have kids but I also discovered Olivia Rodrigo via her Tiny Desk concert performance and was pleasantly impressed. I had heard her name dozens of time and I thought it was another teenage "artist" out of Disney channel, but that really changed my mind and I now consider myself a fan!

    • @dancingdaze
      @dancingdaze 11 месяцев назад

      She's touring next year and in some shows the Breeders are opening for her. Yes I know they have been around longer! But you and your kids can enjoy both 😊

  • @dmccoyny
    @dmccoyny Год назад +294

    As a 44yo w/ a 10yo daughter, I can tell you that Olivia Rodrigo is big in our house. She's one of the popstars that I truly don't mind hearing...even if it is more often than I mind. She's a real talent and uses interesting arrangements and vocals. Yes, it's all compressed to hell, but isn't everything these days (unfortunately)?

    • @fudbob5889
      @fudbob5889 Год назад +6

      I’m 77 with a 4 year old daughter and I totally agree

    • @chriss2412
      @chriss2412 Год назад +9

      Check out her “Tiny Desk Concert” performance… it’s somewhat acoustic (instruments still plugged in) but less pop/studio mixed after effects. It’s very musical and quite impressive; you’re going to love it!

    • @KYLETISZAI
      @KYLETISZAI Год назад

      @@chriss2412 ok

    • @angiepanaexx
      @angiepanaexx Год назад

      Not everything, check out REN. (From the UK) "Hi Ren" to start with.😊
      But I do get your point in general.
      Olivia is very talented though.

    • @allllll5609
      @allllll5609 11 месяцев назад

      You're such a pick me.

  • @ginazeuli4649
    @ginazeuli4649 Год назад +33

    I am a grandma and I love Olivia! Her first album was wonderful. My 25 year old daughters don’t like her but I think her music is so much fun!

  • @giorgia.m
    @giorgia.m Год назад +82

    I don’t think Deja Vu sounds anything like Cruel Summer despite having a shouty bridge which isn’t musically quantifiable really. She gave credits to quash the issues surrounding it but I don’t think it would have held up if it went to “court” or something, on further analysis.

    • @msvolleyball321
      @msvolleyball321 Год назад +31

      Agreed. I think she could have easily won in court but her team probably didn't want her to be stuck in a court case so early in her career. I really think it was a bunch of people that took advantage of an extremely young naive teenage musician at the time. Which sucks. Hopefully she gets better lawyers

    • @eclipsewaves
      @eclipsewaves Год назад +7

      Olivia did credit Taylor's music for inspiring her early released music. It's so easy to see Deja Vu is incredibly inspired by Cruel Summer, and I think she even talked about it herself. She used to talk alot about Taylor Swift in the past, but due to the controversies saying she is copying Tay's music and people literally started calling her the "wannabe Taylor Swift", she just dropped everything about her ( atleast in public domain ), and start exploring more music genres that Taylor doesn't really touch so people can actually stop criticizing her. I can't think of one Taylor song that sounds like an early 2000's angsty song ( because like duh, everyone knows she writes exceptional lyrics even when she first started, and she started out as a country, not a pop singer or whatnot ) except maybe Haunted, but that's probably because the overall vibes, music and instrument gives off massive Avril Lavigne vibes.

    • @interstate1049
      @interstate1049 Год назад +2

      I think a few tracks on Speak now have an emo-rock vibe. As you, say, 'Haunted' is just Evernescence, but Innocent and Better than Revenge lean that way too. Thankfully she got over her imitation phase quickly@@eclipsewaves

    • @giorgia.m
      @giorgia.m Год назад +8

      @@eclipsewaves Yeah giving credit in conversation in a discussion by saying I’m so inspired by Taylor Swift or this song is inspired by Cruel Summer is different than actually giving writing credits that give Taylor Swift money. A lot of people say songs are inspired by other songs without having to credit them. Taylor didn’t deserve the writing credits because she didn’t write the song and the songs don’t sound similar enough. I’d say better than revenge was heavily inspired by Misery Business and gives a 2000s angsty vibe but at the time, it wasn’t as popular to criticise artists for inspiration. Regardless, I hope Olivia can manage to establish her own name without people thinking she isn’t a real artist.

    • @eclipsewaves
      @eclipsewaves Год назад +1

      @@interstate1049 Good point but I think Speak Now is more of a pop country album, if that makes sense. A suitable comparison would be her next album, Red. So tracks like Haunted or Innocent gets overshadowed by songs like Dear John or Enchanted. Though now that you said it, Innocent, Haunted and Better than Revenge does give off massive Evanescence vibes.

  • @SeanDring
    @SeanDring Год назад +125

    I like her music. I'm not even close to the target audience and TBH she made me kind of question my musical "snobbery". There's a lot of talented pop artists out there and it's easy to lob bombs over originality and influences. She writes good songs with devices that keep my toes tapping. The fact that I've been on this planet for 54 years means I've listened to a lot of music and Olivia Rodrigo if anything has bought me back to enjoy the current crop of pop singers. Like you say, we're not the target audience, but talented artists shine in whatever genre you discover them in, and a renowned artist can shine across many genres. I think she has the chops to do that. Now time for a bit of Penguin Cafe Orchestra...

  • @erinmoriarity4775
    @erinmoriarity4775 Год назад +122

    That opening guitar is reminding me of the Beatles' Lady Madonna!
    And, like you, when I first heard this song yesterday (my 18 year old nephew played it for me and asked me what I thought of it) the thing that struck me the most was that distinctly "dissonant" element - and very forward metal sound - being injected into what is clearly an upbeat pop song. Very cool.

    • @le_th_
      @le_th_ Год назад +7

      I wouldn't have made that connection had you not mentioned it here, but now that you have, I can hear it.

    • @hightensionlabs
      @hightensionlabs Год назад +2

      See I went with the Peter Gunn Theme. All good stuff though

    • @BikepackingAdventures
      @BikepackingAdventures Год назад +8

      I hear it, it also reminded me of Oh Blah De Oh Blah Da Life Goes On.

    • @lornakarimjee
      @lornakarimjee Год назад +1

      ​@@BikepackingAdventuresyes I got Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da too 👍

    • @JerGol
      @JerGol Год назад +3

      The Beatles track was my immediate first thought.

  • @apollion888
    @apollion888 11 месяцев назад +13

    Vampire is the first pop song this 59 year old male has liked in years, she is a gift

  • @JimboSRP
    @JimboSRP Год назад +58

    That riff reminds me of the first part of the baseline to the Beatles' Lady Madonna. Her music sounds pretty good to me - I'm about 40 years too late for the lyrics to mean anything profound, but I guess that's just how things go as you age. Now if she wrote a song about negotiating finance on a new car lease, I'd be on board.

    • @Laynestaley455
      @Laynestaley455 Год назад +1

      Ha ha love your comment never should close your mind personally how I see it that's when you get old I like last dinner party even if I really don't relate too it all.

    • @JimboSRP
      @JimboSRP Год назад +1

      @Laynestaley455 definitely agree. I love and listen to all sorts of music, but I'm in my 50s now and some lyrics just don't relate anymore. Doesn't mean it's not a cool song, or that I don't respect the talent and skill though.

    • @staszewaM
      @staszewaM Год назад

      @@JimboSRP Having heard it for the first time, I immediately thought 'sounds like something Weezer would put out', but after hearing the riff played by Justin on the acoustic, it reminded me of 'Pretty Woman' by Roy Orbison :)

  • @shammerHammer
    @shammerHammer Год назад +58

    Wtf I have been saying for years that I've been missing a guitar solo in mainstream music. Good for her to bring that back. Super excited about that...

  • @redamaher3400
    @redamaher3400 Год назад +30

    Her parents are Gen Xers so she grew up listening to Pixies, Afghan Whigs etc. So I consider her stuff laying that over the contemporary indie and pop influences. Been saying for a while she’s the only of the super mainstream pop-pop artists worth the time of day

  • @JoshBruin77
    @JoshBruin77 11 месяцев назад +9

    I'm 38, and I really dig Olivia Rodrigo's work. She is a truly talented little lady, and I actually go out of my way to listen to her stuff once in awhile. She's one of the few pop artists that I actually like. I'm primarily a 1970s-2000's rock guy.

  • @Jack2729o
    @Jack2729o Год назад +11

    I don’t know I like Billie Eilish music more because it’s something original and fresh. So many genres that jazzy 20-60s Julie london vocals Etc something more interesting for my taste! But I like Olivia too, but for me millennial , who grew up in the rock era of the 80/90s what Olivia is doing is nothing new but I still like it because it reminds me of that time

  • @roberttaylor2058
    @roberttaylor2058 Год назад +5

    I guessed it was Olivia Rodriguez from the vid title - she's on the radio a few times a day atm with 'vampire'. its brilliant

  • @thebluestgiraffe7160
    @thebluestgiraffe7160 Год назад +22

    I’m definitely hearing other eras threading through this-great if she cracks the pop door open to more variety. Here’s hoping!

  • @stiksandstones
    @stiksandstones Год назад +20

    Not the OR demographic either (52m) but, her music doesn't annoy me, I dont hit next when she comes on a spotify playlist. My daughter (17) is a big fan, her music makes her happy-so all I give a shit about. I find it odd the critics over analyzing things or comparing, why? if something is enjoyable to you or others, let it go?

  • @richard6704
    @richard6704 10 месяцев назад +2

    I’m 54, I was introduced to her music by a younger friend in their 20’s, Olivia is pretty talented, she has a great voice, can play an instrument or two, and writes good songs, what’s not to like!

  • @stustustu
    @stustustu Год назад +14

    Cracking tune! The bassline reminded me of 'Warning' by Greenday and 'Hash Pipe' by Weezer - but surely the vocal layers over a descending progression (the prechorus when she's lying in the truck) is a nod to the master of guitar pop production - Jeff Lynne (of ELO/Travelling Wilburys/George Harrison)?

  • @Hardiarm
    @Hardiarm Год назад +12

    I have to say I am always impressed by the breadth of your musical references Justin. Not that I would expect anything less, but when you mentioned Fatima Mansions that was pushing the envelope again man.

  • @scottiequality1981
    @scottiequality1981 Год назад +19

    I feel like she just has hip Gen X parents and maybe got a good dose of things like Romeo Void, Suburban Lawns, Adam Ant, Missing Persons, Elvis Costello..there’s a LOT of 80s vibes in there. Not my demographic either, as a 42 year old man, but I kinda dig what she’s doing. It’s got an old school punk snottiness at times. It’s youthful and playful. Could be worse🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @cherryllcooper679
      @cherryllcooper679 Год назад +1

      Romeo Void was the first thing that came to mind!

    • @willjam465
      @willjam465 Год назад

      @@cherryllcooper679thought the same thing.

  • @afterforever2765
    @afterforever2765 Год назад +29

    There are lots of good hooks on that first record. Sure, a few of those songs are derivative but there is no denying her skills.

  • @axelmans9802
    @axelmans9802 Год назад +7

    I feel if you like it it's supposed for you and I really like Rodigro's songs. I don't see an issue with her and her cowriter finding inspiration in bands and artists from the past. Everyone has done that and at least she has a major part in writing her songs. Not many pop acts who can say that nowadays

  • @angiehh516
    @angiehh516 Год назад +13

    I don’t know that I’d consider them fully pop, because their genre is all over the place. …but I’ve been sucked in by twenty one pilots. A lot of people judge them by a few of their commercial hits but Tyler Joseph started in his parents’ basement in Ohio and he still lives there today. His voice is unique and he writes every lyric and plays multiple instruments and produces most of their music. Best live shows I’ve ever seen. Such a musical talent. I like Olivia okay but I haven’t been fully sucked in yet.

    • @indecisive.325
      @indecisive.325 Год назад +2

      I was a huge Twenty One Pilots fan back in their blurryface and trench eras. I loved how their music was all over the place genre wise, but you could ostensibly tell how much effort Tyler Joseph puts into the creative process. I think that's what also draws people like me to Olivia Rodrigo

  • @lifetripping
    @lifetripping Год назад +8

    …also hearing a bit of Cocteau Twins and The Breeders in her vibe. Listening to music is considered practicing in the classical world and it’s part of a musician’s daily ‘practice’. It’s good to hear you encouraging everyone to do what all my teachers have told me thru the years. Deep listening and focused attention are some of the muscles that get strengthened. So, for me, listening to music is not a form of passive entertainment or consumption. It’s an act of work. Over the years, I’ve also noticed that kids trained on string instruments (within a classical education) are better able to concentrate and have a centered calmness to their demeanor as opposed to their non-musical peers. What instrument is your daughter learning?

  • @bazookatooth
    @bazookatooth Год назад +20

    I rate her a lot. Her glasto set a couple years ago was one of the highlights that year imo

  • @richardlewis1639
    @richardlewis1639 Год назад +6

    That riff is basically ‘In the Midnight Hour’ by Wilson Pickett, from the 60s. Roxy Music did a cover, in the 80s.

  • @swannee1975
    @swannee1975 11 месяцев назад +3

    She's got talent, it's funny that I was asking myself last week "Why do I like this song? I'm 48? This isn't pop music right?" The truth is it reminds me of when I started to like the Beastie Boys when the released Check Your Head. It's not a lazy album, you can feel that a lot of work was put into it by the artist. Plus, anyone that writes their own music, can play an instrument and can carry a tune without a voice trainer should be given a chance. Like a few people have commented, the lyrics are poppy 20yr old lyrics but you can feel that the music is more evolved.

  • @noneofyourbusiness4616
    @noneofyourbusiness4616 Год назад +74

    Allie X, Marina Diamandis, Annie, Christine and the Queens, Dorian Electra, Girl Ray, Caroline Polachek, Yelle, Magdalena Bay, many other pop artists who aren't sh asterisk t.

    • @Terra4568
      @Terra4568 Год назад +2

      Also, Zella Day ❤

    • @Alfire_Davies
      @Alfire_Davies Год назад +1

      Idk, christine and the queens suck a bit

    • @scarzgg
      @scarzgg Год назад +15

      I don’t doubt you but I think the main dif is that Olivia rodrigo is one of the most mainstream pop stars on the planet rn. In no way disrespecting the work of the artists you’ve listed, I don’t know 90% of those names. They don’t have nearly as much mainstream influence as someone like Olivia rodrigo

    • @667neighbourofthebeast
      @667neighbourofthebeast Год назад +1

      Solly Mento, Gravity 7even, Pill Poppa, Mumbai Mayhem, Liberty Gemini, Azmuss, Hunter Denari, Lil Lillian. Add them to your sh*t list.😊😂

    • @suites.74
      @suites.74 Год назад

      Any men?

  • @KeepCalmAndTravelOn
    @KeepCalmAndTravelOn Год назад +89

    My 10 year old daughter and I found our musical common ground in Olivia Rodrigo.

    • @X3MAntics
      @X3MAntics Год назад +3

      That's so sweet really.

  • @eily_b
    @eily_b Год назад +3

    Congratulations to 450.000 subscribers! I remember it being a few thousand only a year ago! 500.000 are on their way! 🥳

  • @chrisspellman8545
    @chrisspellman8545 Год назад +4

    42 years old here and I really like some of her music! Especially vampire✌️

  • @seanohalloran384
    @seanohalloran384 7 месяцев назад +1

    I’m a rocker and I love it. There’s a lot of fun and personality in her music but it’s not too pop. I can envision Rodrigo becoming a serious rock artist down the line. Even The Beatles were pop in the beginning. PS I think Dave Stewarts son is the guitarist on this track. Great video!

  • @pasqualeminichillojr831
    @pasqualeminichillojr831 Год назад +40

    I would love someone to find one song by any artist that doesn't have a similar beat or melody to another song. All the music out there has shared sounds of earlier music. The problem is Olivia's music is very popular, so people are looking to make money off of her.

    • @ClearSky81-mb5ph
      @ClearSky81-mb5ph Год назад +3

      This explains why Ed Sheeran is moving from Pop to country music. Ed Sheeran has been subject to many lawsuits because many of his songs became extremely popular

  • @Alan_Duval
    @Alan_Duval Год назад +1

    The point you make at 3:45 reminded me of a quote from Axl Rose, where he was talking about writing music, and he said something like, 'I'll write something, and think it sounds really good and say to myself, 'Yeah'! That's better than Zeppelin.' Then, I'll be in my car listening to the radio and go, 'Oh! It IS Zeppelin.'
    It's funny, the intro reminds me of something, but I can't quite put my finger on what (ironic). Weirdly, it sounded even more like the thing I was thinking of when Justin played it on the guitar without the rest of the musical ornamentation. It'll come to me.
    On a related note, story time:
    I watched the NetFlix series Painkiller (I can't recommend it enough, really good), and a song played in one episode, and I said to my partner, 'That voice is familiar.' A few seconds later, I said, 'I reckon that's Iggy Pop... but the backing vocals are by the B-52s, so that's weird.' I was well-chuffed as the song was 'Candy', by Iggy Pop, with Kate Pierson from the B-52s - not one I'd ever heard before :D

  • @olliewest7124
    @olliewest7124 Год назад +4

    I would love for you to review any song by Laufey, a very interesting artist that is breaking into the pop world with a unique sound that's a throwback to the old school! Love the content Justin

    • @bargainhuntermama
      @bargainhuntermama Год назад

      My 12 year old just introduced me to her music today. She said I think you're going to love this mommy. I was pleasantly surprised.

  • @BrendanAshton
    @BrendanAshton Год назад +7

    I loved the first album and enjoy what I have heard on the second. I enjoyed the super pop it’s for me and I’m 52

  • @stevenclubb7718
    @stevenclubb7718 Год назад +6

    I loved Brutal even if it was overly familar (i knew one version from a Doctor Who episode, not the Elvis Costello original). So far, I've enjoyed both Vampire and Bad Idea Right from the new album. One of the few mainstream pop acts i enjoy, the other being Billie Eilish who often gives me Alice Cooper vibes as she slips into horror territory here and there.

  • @eweng903
    @eweng903 Год назад +8

    Olivia Rodrigo's song "Bad Idea" is in the key of E Mixolydian, which gives the song a rock feel. It is a sophisticated pop rock effort. Rodrigo was a Disney teen actress, and her musical transition likely owes a lot to record producer Dan Nigro. It is probably too early to tell whether Rodrigo will significantly contribute to the pop rock genre, as she has only just stepped out of her teen actress and singer period.

    • @SuziQ.
      @SuziQ. Год назад +4

      @@creamwobbly, I have guitarist friends who have talked about Lydian, Locrian, and other musical scale terminology for decades. (It’s not all from Beato.)

    • @eweng903
      @eweng903 Год назад +1

      Human brain seeks patterns in music, and because of that the musical key is critical when composing a song because it effects the mood, feel, and overall sound of the song. L.A. Woman by The Doors is in a Mixolydian scale, and if you recall that song it does have a bluesy rock sound and feel to it.@@creamwobbly

    • @christopher9152
      @christopher9152 Год назад

      She's a muppet/puppet like Britney Spears and all the other Disney creations. Her "artistry" is mainly in the hands of her producers and managers. NOT an "organically" derived artist in any way, shape, or form.

    • @ClearSky81-mb5ph
      @ClearSky81-mb5ph Год назад

      @@christopher9152 Olivia is NOT with Disney Records or Hollywood Records.

    • @soaribb32
      @soaribb32 Год назад

      ​@@creamwobblywho hurt you?

  • @batmanslarynx
    @batmanslarynx Год назад +6

    I had never actually listened to her before because I just thought it was just another young girl pop star. Which I guess she is? Regardless as you put this video out, I thought I would check out something from her. Good 4 U came up (444M views on here btw, fucking ridiculous) and I thought, eh, I guess it's okay but it sounds too autotuned and stuff so I looked for a live version. There's a performance of it on SNL, I was proved wrong. The girl can really sing and she was backed by a full band, love to see it.
    Maybe I will give her a proper chance in the future, who knows.

  • @Forever_weird
    @Forever_weird Год назад +4

    Definitely heard the Jack White/ The White Stripes vibes on the guitar solo, you’re right it was a lot like Icky Thump

  • @fredfred2363
    @fredfred2363 Год назад +1

    "I like it because I'm not supposed to...". Such a rebel 👍🏻🇬🇧

  • @Briandnlo4
    @Briandnlo4 Год назад +2

    “Grid Rock” is an highly useful addition to the nomenclature.

  • @wutknut82
    @wutknut82 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think Olivia do a real good job. she’s funny, entertaining and girls, like my daughter can relate to the topics.
    The comment, that you (Justin) read nailed it: so cool to see kids discover rock. Maybe we are heading to a knew gilded age of rock.
    Also her style feels beasty boyish, which is also an argument to listen to her music

  • @raquelsnt
    @raquelsnt Год назад +3

    It's not for someone like me neither!
    But love to watch your videos!

    • @SuziQ.
      @SuziQ. Год назад +1

      Ditto!

  • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
    @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Год назад +4

    The lick is, among other things, 'and she was' by Talking Heads
    Like deployed 👍

  • @davelanciani-dimaensionx
    @davelanciani-dimaensionx Год назад +12

    It is definitely the riff from "I'm Your Venus" by Shocking Blue (1968), which was covered by Bananarama in 1986. But given a modern twist.

    • @Michael-mm3fm
      @Michael-mm3fm Год назад

      The original much better btw

    • @fromchomleystreet
      @fromchomleystreet Год назад +1

      Not really. It’s in a major key for a start, which puts it much more firmly in the territory of “midnight hour” and “Lady Madonna”. “Venus” is resolutely in a minor key.

    • @RCbeastly
      @RCbeastly Год назад

      The Banjo Song?
      @@Michael-mm3fm

  • @NinStardust
    @NinStardust Год назад +2

    6:05 😂 how long were you stuck in that dut-dut-dah-dum duh-duh-da-dah loop? NGL it’s going to be stuck in my head all day now too! 😂😂😂

  • @shayasims
    @shayasims Год назад +4

    well you’ll be glad to know olivia and her producer dan are very keen on using live instruments !

  • @Nicolasmondragon707
    @Nicolasmondragon707 Год назад +5

    Justin Fucking Hawkins Rides Againnnnn!!🎶🎶🎷🥁🕺🏽

  • @timsarai
    @timsarai Год назад +2

    I know it’s for the clicks but I hate it when people say pop artists are shit. A lot of pop artists are artists that are at the absolute pinnacle of musicianship or the most phenomenally talented singers. Genuine talent that some indie artists could only dream of. I’m a big darkness fan and of Justin FYI.

    • @dirkda2451
      @dirkda2451 Год назад +2

      I’m totally with you 👍also every artist is influenced by what came before them (as they should be)not everything is plagiarism

    • @crisvelundertale2159
      @crisvelundertale2159 Год назад +1

      you know that's not true, contemporary pop artists can barely play instruments, if anything they do some chords and strum the songs in the guitar, or play the chords on the piano to accompany the vocals, and that's it, it rarely goes further than that. There is little to no virtuosity and real musicianship in the pop artists themselves now, that's just a fact, people blow up and get big in the industry for other reasons and different talents that are not being at the pinnacle of musicianship, they usually just get other people to take care of it. On the top of my head i can only think of just one contemporary pop artist that I've seen doing really impressive and intricate things on the piano, that being Lady Gaga, can you think of more examples?

    • @timsarai
      @timsarai Год назад +1

      @@crisvelundertale2159 there’s a lot of bias in this response in my opinion. And you are stating things as fact when in reality it is your opinion. I don’t mean this in a mean spirited way, but I really disagree with you. It is true of a lot of manufactured pop “bands” I think. But I think most solo pop artists are phenomenal talents. A lot of the top performing vocalists are usually very talented musicians and have a deep, core understanding of musicality. People like Ariana Grande, Taylor Swift, Adele for instance. A prime example is someone like Charlie Puth. Puth puts out probably the most pop sounding pop music going at the minute and he has a phenomenal musical talent and understanding. Gaga you mention is another great example. I appreciate the fact it isn’t for everyone though and I’m not a fan of some of these pop artists myself. I just think people can be unfairly critical of pop artists

  • @Stefarooh
    @Stefarooh Год назад +2

    I think if we are looking at the main charts Justin then yes...what gets picked up by radio is abysmal but there are artist out there doing brilliant things - Just take Jessie Ware. Not a single song from her "What's your Pleasure?" or her latest "That! Feels! Good!" was ever played on the radio and both albums are filled to the brim with intelligent, danceable, hugely enjoyable songs. I hightly suggest you give her a listen . An interview with her would even be great 😯

  • @cwize
    @cwize Год назад +1

    I like that the underpinning bass/guitar riff is actually 1,4,5 instead of 1,3,5 - just a wee bit different and used a lot less than 1,3,5 from the ol’ rock days. I have to concur with the commenter you highlighted, that it’s “not for me” (I’m 59 but still a new music junkie) but c’mon, guitars are back! 🎉

  • @ltlbuddha
    @ltlbuddha Год назад +4

    I don't know that I completely buy the idea that music should be segregated by age. I grew up listening to music by people who were dead long before I was born and weren't writing for children even in their time. I listened to the Beatles long before I understood the meaning behind their songs. I'm not generally into the pop written for a younger audience, because much of it deals with subjects I've matured past (well, mostly), but if a song is a banger, then it is a banger.

  • @Daniel_Batal
    @Daniel_Batal Год назад

    I hear Wilson Pickett's Midnight Hour in the Good 4 U verse riff, but with more of a Weezer Hash Pipe vibe.

  • @kevinkorenke3569
    @kevinkorenke3569 Год назад +4

    Part of me is amused reading people pile on her misic as crap, all the while just repeating the vitriol we had to put up with in our youth. I was around for the Satanic Panic and the PMRC hearings, a lot of complaints I hear today are the same just without all the fainting couches.
    We arent the demographic any more guys and gals. The sooner you accept that the sooner you can start to listen to the music out there objectively and truly discuss it on its own merits.
    "New music is shit" is just older people unwilling to accept that they arent the center of attention any more. A lot of the pop music out there IS forgettable garbage, just like the pop music of our youth. A good portion of it is just like our pop music of the day, screaming out against the things that worried and frightened us in our youth as we were trying to figure out how to grow up as well.

  • @DeniseCMS
    @DeniseCMS Год назад +1

    Sour cd is amazing! I love every single song and I’m 49.

  • @RokDAWG1
    @RokDAWG1 Год назад +2

    It reminds me of early 80’s new wave. That sound coming right off of the punk sound. Like it could have easily been a the Talking Heads, Adam Ant or something in that style.

  • @amplifiedlight
    @amplifiedlight Год назад +3

    Angelina Jordan could have been a Disney princess, many offers arrived after she won Norway's Got Talent at 8. Her family denied Disney and many others, giving preference to a balanced childhood.
    At 17 the brakes have been released. She is truly crazy bananas talented, musically, lyrically and vocally! Her stardom is simply inevitable.

  • @joexkid9059
    @joexkid9059 11 месяцев назад +1

    I’m honestly obsessed with her atm, new album is so good!

  • @zedohe172
    @zedohe172 Год назад +1

    Being at the cusp age of liking Olivia's music and also being fan of Elvis Costello. His response to someone who said her song brutal was very similar to pump it up was PERFECT. "This is fine by me, X. It’s how rock and roll works. You take the broken pieces of another thrill and make a brand new toy. That’s what I did." I think a lot of artists should learn a lesson in not being overtly litigious specially with up-and-commers. Specially if it's just like a few seconds of a 3 mins song. Specially if you're already a huge star who's like a billionaire. I understand about asking for a share, if the artist being ripped off wasn't able to profit off of it or is a much smaller musician.

  • @shahanahsan05
    @shahanahsan05 Год назад +12

    Dan & her are an amazing duo
    She’s an amazing song-writer and is proving to be one of the best song-writers of our time

  • @theresae6071
    @theresae6071 Год назад +1

    I am going to agree with others who have mentioned Romeo
    Void, The Breeders, And She Was by The Talking Heads. I hear all three and all three are great influences to have.

  • @fernandooliveiralino
    @fernandooliveiralino Год назад

    Subscribed to the channel! I had a pal in high school that loved The Darkness so much. Also, I used to sing your falsettos in college and folks would be like: "Wow, you can do that?".
    Great video, by the way.

  • @runmickrun
    @runmickrun Год назад +2

    That riff sounds a lot like Elvis Costello's "Waiting for the End of the World" but I do like her music 🙂

  • @buzzbomb67
    @buzzbomb67 Год назад +1

    Main riff reminds of a Beatles song, but I cant put my finger on it. Oh, Lady Madonna. Def same riff. But that’s a fairly common progression.
    Certainly nothing wrong with sounding familiar… people tend to react better to familiar. People get up and dance to familiar… they tend to sit down and soak in (or ignore… ) something they don’t recognize.

  • @musicisfree91
    @musicisfree91 Год назад +2

    This song, and the genre isn't my cup of tea, but it you're right it isn't shit. I'm glad to see that there is still some pop music that is interesting.

  • @MariaFrancesca
    @MariaFrancesca Год назад +2

    My birthday is coming up in three days and it's a muuuuch higher number than I would have liked, so... in my pre-birthday depression fog, in which there aren't enough clouds to shout at, I will refrain from saying anything about this song 🙂 I will feel better on Thursday.
    The happiness of the thumbnail sheered me up, though, love those glasses!

    • @raquelsnt
      @raquelsnt Год назад +1

      Happy next bday, mine is in two days...15th august!

    • @MariaFrancesca
      @MariaFrancesca Год назад +1

      @@raquelsnt Oh, your birthday is the day before mine? 🙂 How funny! Congratulations to you, too!!! 🙂

    • @SuziQ.
      @SuziQ. Год назад +2

      I feel your pain. I hit a scary, high number recently, and it’s too scary to say. Enjoy the days anyway, girls. We only get one per year. 🎉🥂🎂

    • @MariaFrancesca
      @MariaFrancesca Год назад +2

      @@SuziQ. Belated Happy Birthday to you! 🙂Yeah, I should really pull myself up by my boot straps, shouldn't I? 🙂
      And you can't possibly be older than I am? 🙃

  • @soulproprietor
    @soulproprietor 11 месяцев назад +1

    Both Olivia Rodrigo records feature very well written and very well performed songs. There is a long history in popular music of records that somehow managed to be simultaneously commercial, corporate, calculated as fuck and also great. I'm not sure if "Sour" or "Guts" are any of those things, but the songs connect - even if you are multiple decades past the emotionally charged time of life she is living through and singing about. This jaded old indie rock dude loves both albums. Music first.

  • @vinskeeter
    @vinskeeter Год назад +1

    Off the subject here, but I recently discovered "Holding my Own" from Permission to Land. Magnificent! I'd say, it's a rare.....perfect rock song.

    • @chriss2412
      @chriss2412 Год назад

      Good call, that song is incredible

  • @le_th_
    @le_th_ Год назад +12

    In some ways, Rodrigo's attitude on her first album (not this album) hints back...ever so slightly...to when Alanis Morrisette came on the scene in the 90s. Gorgeous voice, ripping the men to shreds who have the audacity to use her and toss her out like tissue.
    I don't buy a lot of CDs anymore like I did in the late 80s, 90s, and early aughts...but I did buy OR's first album because it was good. She's young enough to be my daughter. lol I can't imagine it being a classic I'll listen to forever, but it reminded me of Liz Phair in some ways and one or two of Morisette's songs on Jagged LIttle Pill.
    I rarely, if ever, listen to Liz Phair anymore (I've outgrown it), but I still listen to Jagged Little Pill.

  • @raycochrane3971
    @raycochrane3971 Год назад +1

    Starts with The Midnight Hour bass.

  • @gregcharlton8633
    @gregcharlton8633 Год назад +6

    Would love to see Olivia cover Dinner Lady Arms as it’s a classic, a must play on the darkness uk tour 🎉

  • @georgibogdanov
    @georgibogdanov 27 дней назад

    If you never heard any of her songs, Breeders opening for her concerts should tell you she is really big and highly appreciated already, incredible rare talent

  • @TheMRBOSS899
    @TheMRBOSS899 11 месяцев назад

    Roy Orbison, Pretty Woman. First thing I hear ..
    Love it ❤

  • @aodhancollins
    @aodhancollins Год назад +1

    a comment on your point on her copyright credit situation: good for u is OBVIOUSLY inspired by misery business and there’s no denying that, olivia is well aware of paramore and would site them as influences easily. but imo it shouldn’t warrant a songwriting credit.
    it’s not a sample, and i wouldn’t even consider it an interpellation. it’s a similar melodic contour with similar lyrical themes. i think we can acknowledge influence while not having to resort to copyright claims.
    and same applies with deja vu and cruel summer which i feel the credit is even less needed. just a similar two note motif on the bridge that has been done countless times before, and olivia gives it a different rhythm anyway.

    • @jamesdeich6102
      @jamesdeich6102 Год назад +1

      I listen repeated. There is no notable similarity to "Misery Business". They just ripped her off because "Good 4 U" hit number 1.

    • @ClearSky81-mb5ph
      @ClearSky81-mb5ph Год назад

      True. Reading music sheets of Good 4 U and Misery Business, it is not the same...the melody are different, lyrics and feels of the songs are miles apart. It will not stand in court.
      The only similarity between Good 4 U and Misery Business - both songs are Pop Punk, same music genre, same vibes.
      Similar chords and vibes are NOT subject to copyright.
      Ed Sheeran case proved it.

    • @aodhancollins
      @aodhancollins Год назад +1

      @@ClearSky81-mb5ph i’m forever grateful that the ed sheeran case put an end to this madness, but i don’t even think he had won it by the time hayley and josh were added as songwriters, and before that the blurred lines case had effectively destroyed music copyright for the rest of the decade.

    • @ClearSky81-mb5ph
      @ClearSky81-mb5ph Год назад

      @@aodhancollins same. The blurred line case was a nightmare. It was killing musicians and the music industry in general.

  • @Life-Is-Random
    @Life-Is-Random 11 месяцев назад +1

    Elvis Costello handled the comparison the best. Serious class act.

  • @rebeccaroberts4919
    @rebeccaroberts4919 Год назад +1

    I'm a big Taylor Swift fan and Deja Vu sounds nothing like Cruel Summer! Massive reach there. I don't think Taylor should have taken the credit on that one!

  • @Courtneyburns90
    @Courtneyburns90 Год назад +26

    I don’t listen to most modern stuff but Olivia Rodrigo is the one modern day artist who I like and I think it is because of the early 00s influences. I couldn’t tell you a single recent song from Taylor Swift or Lana de la ray or billie elish or anyone else.

    • @jsequine927
      @jsequine927 Год назад +5

      That's shame, not really in the pop space so much anymore but Lana's latest album is an absolutely masterpiece. Her last few albums have been excellent.

    • @eclipsewaves
      @eclipsewaves Год назад +3

      Anti-Hero by Taylor Swift is like, literally everywhere.

    • @Courtneyburns90
      @Courtneyburns90 Год назад

      @@eclipsewaves I know the chorus (or two lines) because of the Tv show you and silly Tik toks videos but wouldn’t know the rest of the song.

    • @Courtneyburns90
      @Courtneyburns90 Год назад

      @@jsequine927 probably would like her more. Was just one of the first examples that came to mind, since I don’t know the name of a lot of artists 😂

    • @horsehollerer
      @horsehollerer Год назад +1

      Shame, Billie Eilish is an incredible talent. I'm in my 50s btw. Check out her music video to "Happier than ever" ... it's a multi-part song about the moment she realised she was in an abusive relationship (true story). She writes and directs all her own videos as well. There's always a plot twist lol. Cheers.

  • @fromchomleystreet
    @fromchomleystreet Год назад

    I’m always amused at times like this by the people in the comments section who invariably appear to declare that the (highly generic) riff in question has been “directly lifted” from the particular (highly generic) song that they happen to know and like that did something similar once.
    Guys, it’s a basic 4/4 vamp in a major key, going back and forth between the “I” chord and the “IV” chord. Your guy didn’t invent it. It appeared in thousands of songs before your guy was even born.

  • @TheErazar
    @TheErazar Год назад +1

    Sounds a bit like Wet Leg, which I discovered through your channel

  • @nsalas02
    @nsalas02 7 месяцев назад

    The song you’re looking for is “Subacultcha” by the Pixies. Not the same baseline but the whole spoken word verses and song structure, has to be an influence in this song.

  • @sheridanwands439
    @sheridanwands439 Год назад +1

    Another great video,thanks Justin.

  • @juliehartley3652
    @juliehartley3652 Год назад +2

    Yes I liked it too and all those songs it sounded like. I could learn a lot about music couldn't I? Thank you Justin.

  • @stewartmitchell8007
    @stewartmitchell8007 Год назад +1

    A touch of walkie talkie man by steriogram in the riff and vocal flow too.

  • @kilgoretrout2918
    @kilgoretrout2918 Год назад

    Off topic a little but about songs sounding alike. You mentioned "Pump It Up" by Elvis Costello-did you ever notice how much the verses sound like the verses of "Wild Wild West" by the Escape Club?

  • @kopper7509
    @kopper7509 Год назад

    I really enjoy these comments mentioning some old classics.

  • @foxdenham
    @foxdenham Год назад

    62 year old-but-valid gentleman here! 😂
    I think this track is fab. I let the lyrics wash over me of course, but the Pixie’s-meets-Garbage, rock stylings, hooked me like they should. If this pulls the ‘Yute’ into the ballsiness of rock then, done deal.
    Respect - As they probably don’t say anymore 🤔

  • @dooley9621
    @dooley9621 Год назад

    Good day to you Mr Hawkins, thanks for the video buddy have a great rest of your day.

  • @patricklanglois2197
    @patricklanglois2197 Год назад

    GOOD EAR AND OPENED TO ALL GENRE,,,,MY KIND. I LOVE ROCK FROM ROCK N ROLL TO METAL BUT I LIKE TO BE OPENED TO ALL GENRE,,,,THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN CREATE GOOD MUSIC. MIXING ALL STYLE GIVES MAGIC !!!!

  • @KeithOlson
    @KeithOlson Год назад

    I can remember the bit at 6:10 from when *I* was her age, though which song it came from escapes me.

  • @Rocksarum
    @Rocksarum Год назад +1

    I appreciate she has those influences...👍 Now I need to listen to Icky Thump😊 🎶"Redhead señorita looking dead
    Came and said, "Need a bed?" in Español..."🎶😉
    Conquest is also another banger from that album!👍
    Nice!🫶

  • @michaeloxman3820
    @michaeloxman3820 11 месяцев назад

    58 year old here! Totally love her music.

  • @karlmar2
    @karlmar2 Год назад

    I teach guitar for a job, and I’ve had students request songs, every time I’ve got a kick out of her music, and I really like it. One of my students (11yr) asked me who I prefer her or Taylor Swift I said G.R. I’m 47

  • @Eluarelon
    @Eluarelon Год назад +1

    I think there's still a lot of pop artists that aren't shit, but generally those artists don't get much publicity because they aren't industry-made. Now this song I like well enough, though it probably still won't make me turn on the radio again (I was a huge pop fan in the 80's and part of the 90's, but that time is over).
    No regarding any similarities to be found in music, I really think that's not exclusive to pop music. I'm a metalhead and I'm listening to new stuff all the time, which very often means band I didn't listen to before and most of the time, I hear some similarities to artists I already know. Part of it is probably because the human brain is wired to find patterns in the unknown, but more often than not, it's just that you hear the artists the new ones took inspiration from (which you can find out if you're reading a bit into the bands background). It has always been this way, and as long as it isn't blatant copyism, I like artists honoring their sources of inspiration.

  • @Alex_19XC
    @Alex_19XC Год назад

    Same as a few other comments on here, I'm not exactly the target audience for this but I dig it. Reminds me a little of Baby Queen, someone else who I think is excellent.

  • @cholomite
    @cholomite Год назад +1

    That riff is Space Cowboy (among others) by Steve Miller. Verses remind me of Elastica or Romeo Void. All of which are not bad. Every song I've ever written has sounded like something else... mostly Action by The Sweet😅.
    The first time I heard I Believe in a Thing Called Love, I thought that's Rob a Bank by Renée Berg. Not a criticism. After over 70 years of western rock and pop, every possible combination and permutation of notes has been recorded.

  • @eliseintheattic9697
    @eliseintheattic9697 Год назад

    The intro reminded me of Roy Orbison's Pretty woman.
    I'm with you on pop music. I don't like most of it, and I don't like this either. It's better than most, just not my cup of tea.

  • @paultaylor1812
    @paultaylor1812 Год назад +1

    The little guitar/bass riff reminds of a faster Beatles - Lady Madonna