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Por donde abby era "pluz size" abby era una obesa mórbida, una hamburguesa más en su dieta y la tía se moria de un paro cardíaco, una mujer pluz size al lado de abby se ve delgada, por favor
It's sad that Jojo Siwa, the literal child, was more mature than this woman. (For historical purposes, this comment will remain. Connor The Undying does not condone the actions of Jojo Siwa.)
it's really sad that jojo is so shamed now for acting like a kid (which she still is) and just living her life the way she wants, when people like abby stay intact.
@Radio Star 17 year olds are literally children. both the body and the brain aren’t fully developed until around age 25. one of the reasons 18 is the legal adult age in america is because they needed more people to draft. so yea 17 is a literal child because they are 8 years away form being fully developed edit: since some of you can’t understand that a child isn’t strictly 5 year olds here’s this. no i’m not saying a 17 year old an 5 year old have the same brain development. i’m saying we should keep in mind brain development when talking to/about humans under 25. a 18 is capable of living alone and voting even so they aren’t fully developed and are stil tencilcly a child and that should be kept in mind when dealing with them and for yourself you shouldn’t feel bad for not being able to do everything a 25 year old can when your 18 because ‘your both adults’ because you aren’t both fully developed so you don’t need to have everything together. and maturity and brain development aren’t the same thing.
Things that Abby is good at: - being mean to children - being mean to parents in front of their children - being on _two_ billboards - getting arrested - being edited to look better - throwing tantrums at little girls I mean, look how talented she is. No wonder she thinks so highly of herself.
A really hate it when adults call teenagers young adults during certain situations and call them CHILDERN with other situations. Like those are not the same words mate what do you really expect from teens!?
Yep! My own mother does that. Toxic parents really are fond of picking and choosing when their kids are “stupid kids” or “young adults” when it’s suitable for their argument.
A weird detail is that in the Latin American dub, she has the same VO actor as Cartman from South Park, and it fits her so much, because they are basically the same person.
@@midnight_rain Not everything. A lot of the times the parents and Ms. Abby fighting and yelling were real, along with the kids crying. Season 7 and 8 were kinda really staged though. Sometimes the costumes and props would be “missing” because the producers decided that stealing items that cost money was okay. They also would cut scenes out changing how the argument was seen. They would also control the parents and kid’s Twitter accounts, idk about Abby though. Ultimately, it still doesn’t change how it affected the kids.
This woman isn't a 'strict teacher', she's just a bully. Strict teachers don't need to yell at kids or pick on their appearance. Sometimes kids cry in competitive environments, but that's when you drop what you're doing and make sure they're okay before bringing them back in. What she does is she tries to make good reality TV, and good reality TV is incompatible with good teaching and childcare.
There is this movie s'eries here in Germany created decades ago about a ballet dancer named ''Anna'' in the movies she grew up from a kids dancer, many problems to actually a teenage competitive ballet dancer with a very strict teacher. I compare it, because it also wasn't really real :D And while as a kid I hated that teacher I also know the differences to ... Abby. Like. The teacher was correcting Anna harshly, kind of mean and wanted to have every detail perfect. But after all she never really bullied Anna. She showed her the truth of life in the show-world. Yeah I mean ... just a movie series but .... it was much more Drama than dance moms but at the same time so much more .... human.
@@carmenrider8216 No, there’s a difference. Strict Teacher: If you want to succeed, you need to work harder. Bully: You’ll never amount to anything. You’re the worst.
I just realized that ava, the girl that was kicked out because she was too tall, is the same girl that plays the role of jodi in "tall girl". Which is about the girl getting bullied for being tall.
Seriously! I have to get in an argument with people over the internet because they saw Abby doing one good thing and think she's amazing. "The media portrays her in a bad light" so THAT'S why they cut out the line that Abby made about Chloe's medical condition related to her eye right? Or why they weren't filming when Abby said she didn't want "any little Tooties" on her show? Or maybe that's why all girls showed signs of PTSD, anxiety, and other mental health issues following their time on the show.
One parent argued with her she was like "ArE yOu InSuLtInG mE bEcAuSe Of My DiSaBiLiTy?" when she insults kids based off of stuff they can't control all the time.
Not gonna lie I was like this when I was first watching the show. I thought she was doing what was best for the students. I stopped watching when Jojo first joined the show and when I googled it just now she joined in 2015 so I was 12/13. Wow looking back I was so wrong. I don’t know how I thought that was just a strict teacher.
"I can make a child cry in 30 seconds." Good for you Abby. Anyone else can slap a kid across the face and make them cry on 3 seconds, but you don't see them bragging about it. It takes a special kind of malicious narcissist to be proud of how good you are at inflicting psychological abuse on little girls.
I don't understand how lifetime got away with airing actual child abuse and child endangerment without any civil or legal repercussions. There are a lot of people that need to serve actual prison time for this show.
They - *_Lifetime Network_* - should be a LANDFILL by now; No employees, no money, their headquarters building a *_SMOLDERING pile of ashes,_* just.... Oh my God!!
I used to think Jojo Siwa was kind of cringe when I was 10 but now that i've matured a bit more, I realize she was just living the way she wants and nobody should be judge for that especially when you're not hurting anyone
the fact is: Abby is such a talented person for: -bullying children -throwing tantrums -getting edited -getting arrested -not having good arguments SUCH A TALENTED PERSON 😍👏👏
people saying “it’s okay because it’s Abby” is literally what shane dawson said when defending jeffree’s actions, “what do you expect? it’s Jeffree fucking Star” as if that’s an excuse. notice how Gordon Ramsay doesn’t treat kids that way on Master Chef Jr, because they’re just kids, in an already competitive environment....
Gordon Ramsey is a perfect example of being a true “tough teacher” he’s tough when he needs to be, and soft when he needs to be, yes you’ll see him yelling at contestants, but it’s only towards the food they make, he doesn’t yell for his own twisted satisfaction but to simply help them grow in the cooking industry, plus he will always later tell them what they did wrong kindly and tell them how to improve. It’s called “tough love” which is what Abby completely abused and said rude hateful disrespectful things and then covers it up by saying, “oh it’s just tough love deal with it”.
@@isabellemackwell2262 even then, Ramsey doesn’t yell at the kids and even with the adults he knows how to read the room. Like there was one guy who Ramsey accidentally triggered (bc he used a insult the dude associated with his abusive dad) and Ramsey immediately backed off and apologized.
I’m not exactly a fan of JoJo Siwa, but I am thoroughly entertained by the fact that she went on to have an immensely more successful and meaningful career than Abby
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@@bambithedambi6946 I think the difference in Gordon's attitudes towards adults vs children is that children are young and are still learning, while "most" adults should just know better (I say most because Gordon can be quite civil to chefs/staff etc who are clearly trying but just lack skill or are in a bind due to management)
Am I the only one who's really pissed off at the fact that the editors made all these people look like conceited, narcissistic assholes, but somehow made Abbey look better? What's worse is that they were basically slandering these people's names on national tv.
"I could probably make a kid cry in thirty seconds." Ooh, what a tough scary badass you are. You can make children cry. Because THAT'S really hard to do.
My ex-girlfriend is a dance instructor. She used to watch this show. We broke up because she became more and more like Abby. On what planet is it okay to arrange kids in a literal pyramid?!
I would go farther and cancel all the people who watches that garbage (if it was possible). That hag wouldn’t have a job if this kind of crap didn’t sell.
@@absolutelychampagne so are you planning to ignore all the trauma this woman caused these children? For God's sake, the OP specifically said that we should stop cancelling innocent people and focus on degenerates like Abby. Cancel culture as a tool of silencing and going after well-being of innocent people is disgusting. But it really triggers me when someone who made a questionable joke 10 years ago is being automatically cancelled, while people like her still have a career.
I remember my sister used to be obsessed, and I mean OBSESSED with this show. I didn’t like the amount of drama, but I never stopped to consider how truly atrocious it was.
so does mine and when ever i point out how bad abby is, her excuse is "well her mom died" or "well it's her studio" also i hate the intro of this show @@Cartoonist113
@. I feel so fucking bad for her. We all had a good laugh at the movie but seeing why she feels the way she does... it's so sad. None of those kids deserved what happened to them; it sucks they have to carry those insecurities and pain with them forever now. 😪
Why the hell were there children in what seemed to be bikini tops? Also I’m shocked how Jojo turned out. Kinda heartwarming how positive she turned out
Those outfits are useful for dancing alot, it doesn't catch on anything, allows movement without restraint and stops the dancers from overheating. I understand what you are saying though.
Jojo turned out well because she & her mom gamed Abby from the start. Like using her iconic bows to give her a "brand" that made Jojo stand out. They absolutely played Dance Moms & won
That’s actually pretty normal dance attire. It’s just easier to dance in and allows breathability. Younger kids especially tend to go for the bras and shorts, and as they get older usually transition more into leggings.
My emotionally and verbally abusive dad and his narcissistic wife really loved this show, huh its a mystery. But they used to actually use it as an excuse to treat me in a similar way
Honestly, it's interesting looking back at the show now. Including all the things you mentioned, there was so much racism, sexualization and exploitation of minors, and disregard for mental health. As someone who used to watch the show when I was younger, I feel disgusted when looking back. I'm glad that cast members like Jojo and Nia seem to be happy, but upsetting that most children cast members are obviously suffering mentally. I wish all of the children cast members the best.
Especially when she constantly type casted nia and never allowed holly to say something or else she’d take away her only roles. Yet the other moms get to scream and curse at her, which holly has never done. Its so gross on her part😒
SCREAMING i didn't expect to see an olivia hye profile picture here. and yes i totally agree so many microaggressions, racism, sexualization, and trauma. i feel so bad
“If you yell at me, i'm _gonna_ cry.” “Go. Out.” Jojo litterally is like, so calm and just spat logic, and Abby acts like a little girl I respect Jojo so much for staying collected while basically crying.
I can’t believe you all are comparing her to Gordon. Gordon isn’t that bad, come on. He only really insulted people who practically poisoned others while claiming to be a great chef. He treats kids good
Exactly. He only yells at the adults who claim to be “world class chefs” and they are making rookie mistakes or being lazy. They should already know better. It’s common sense to not store your poultry with fucking vegetables.
No one said he was bad. Thats why people are comparing him. Gordon understands kids unlike Abby. He s treats them like a father they never had,, while Abby just emotionally abuses her students. Though Gordon is harsh on the adults on hells kitchen because they come on the shows expected to be professional chefs and they think they can cook, tho a lot of them can't. Hes harsh on them because the are old enough to know better.
@@ChrisChras I meant people who say she's like Gordon or that they're similar/ not that different. They were comments like that when I wrote the original comment
When it comes to harsh teachers, I would like to point out that Gordon Ramsey, unlike Abby, never yells at kids, as he understands that they could be driven away from cooking due to a bad experience, so he encourages them to keep trying and get better. So no, Abby wasn't rude because she was a harsh teacher. She was just an asshole
Gordon is an absolute sweetheart to kiss the difference is mind blowing. Verbally abusing adults it’s still bad but at least he draws the line with little kids
Agreed, Gordon Ramsey is actually a very nice person. He’s just very strict with his adult chefs. It’s crazy that people try to excuse Abby by saying it was “tough love”. It was flat out abuse, period.
THIS👏 idk if abby has kids but gordon ramsey does and maybe that’s why, he realizes that yelling and degrading is really damaging to kids. i don’t ~love~ when he yells at adults but i feel like he knows they can handle it. Abby is just a bully
The biggest thing that makes Gordon's freak outs justified is that he is dealing with adults who are experienced enough to know better, see him work with children and it's easy to tell how much of a better person he is by how different his approach with them is.
@@nickelakon5369 or hes running basicallu a cheif themed game show with such a massive prize that him stressing the heck out of the chiefs is part of the challenge and in gordons words prepares them for the worst of the worst scenarios theyll face one day as cheifs
@@wilmagregg3131 I have friends working in gastronomical environments and I can say from their experience: Yelling and stress is kind of normal in the kitchen
Gordon only lashes out at adults who say they know what they're doing, but obviously don't. He's nicer to kids and starting chefs because they are still learning as they go.
Honestly if I was on dance moms and abby was my teacher saying stuff like that to me, my anger issues could NEVER. I would've been kicked off the show for cursing her out every episode😭🤚🏾
When I was younger I never really liked Jojo because I thought she was a bit cocky but now I'm way older I actually admire her. She's definitely become very successful and the fact she could hold her own so well is amazing honestly
She calls them young adults when she wants to point out immature behavior, but then belittles them and calls them children when they do anything else. Basically, she identifies them however she wants to suit her narrative
Remember the time she threw a chair at a little girl and started screaming that “she was fine” when the mother got upset. The camera was mostly focused on the adults but you could see her visibly scared and shaken the kid was.
@@elijahyes3110 don't be afraid to stand up to her. politely of course, don't give her the satisfaction of anger. you dont need to let her fragile ego hurt you if you dont want it to. rely on others in your family if your mother has proven to not understand what it means to be one. of course give her credit for where she does right, but don't ever feel obliged to submit to her if she's done you a lot of wrong.
@@elijahyes3110 you're wrong, she's an awful person. You just think that because you're abused. The psychology of abuse is very complex and tragic, and reading up on it would be very helpful for someone in your position. I wish you luck.
I actually knew Abby Lee when I was a kid. My sister danced at Maryen Lorrain Dance Studio in Abby's "Abby Lee Dance Company," and I had to be there a lot, so I know a little bit about how Abby Lee was in person. To be fair, she was nice to me, probably because I wasn't actually part of her whole dance domain. I was just some little kid who was always bumming around the place. Your assessment is pretty accurate about how she is to her students and parents off camera, though. She screamed at those kids often, and crying was pretty common. They were all terrified of her. She definitely did ridicule the kids for petty things that were out of their control. They had to have their hair in buns so tight it was painful, and my sister told me that for the older girls, they had to have leotards so tight that their was absolutely no jiggle in their chests, or they'd get torn a new one. The pyramid wasn't real, but there was a ton of political tension about who got solos and duets and stuff, so in spirit, it did kind of go down like that. The political stuff also created this whole cutthroat atmosphere, even with the parents. You definitely didn't need producers to create drama. It was way too much stress for my sister to have at such a young age.
Zack Peterson Is your sister doing okay now? That sounds like absolute Hell for a kid to go through. I’m no parent, but from watching some videos on mental welfare I know that it usually isn’t a good idea to subject young kids to toxic environments like Abby’s studio. How’s she doing now?
How is your sister😢is she ok cause i am genually worried for her i hope she is ok cause that studio is just not a great place for a kid to be and it can really damage someone mentally
@@katsukibakugou9519 Realistically, I don't think her experiences at the dance studio had a huge impact on her life. We all have ups and downs, and we've been through way worse than that. There were also positive experiences at dance. My sister is doing well now, on the whole. She's working as a landscape architect.
"I can't believe that a 14 year old, young adult-" Ah yes, 14 year olds. Young adults. The ones with the most definitely developed brains. You know, the adults. The 14 year olds are young adults. Yes.
My respect for JoJo just skyrocketed. I always appreciated her as fun, wholesome, positive content for my kids to watch on her youtube channel, even if she does sound like the real life version of Dora the Explorer. But this is amazing. And it further proves that JoJo doesn't give an eff what anyone thinks. She says and does what is right for JoJo.
She had some iffy moments on dance moms where she did mock other kids, and her mother straight up bullied a 12 year old to keep JoJo on the show (if the mums don't cause enough drama the kid gets kicked off), but it is good she stood up to Abby sometimes.
@@dylanhamilton1441 I didn't know any of this because I never watched dance moms. I only knew of her because I have little girls who used to watch her on youtube
@@heatherruth6734 Her own videos are good but just to watch out for that in case your kids come across the dance moms clips, they're quite upsetting to watch with JoJo's mother making a kid cry.
My niece was in dancing for part of her life and she was brilliant at it. Still is whenever she's on stage. But one day, one of the other dance moms literally came up to my six year old niece and told her "You gotta stop dancing so well. You're making Achleygh look bad." (I WISH I was kidding about the spelling of that name. I am dead serious, that's how it was spelled.) My sister immediately pulled her out of dance and left a scathing review on the website calling the woman out as well as the studio for the terrible treatment. Insanely, the lady tried to take her to court for slander and libel, but the case was dismissed because it's a business review which falls under Fair Use. My niece entered theatre and honestly was a hell of a lot happier. The world of dance is just INSANE.
Maybe these kids are all in the wrong dancing schools, there’s plenty of other schools that don’t sexualize minors or overly express feminine stereotypes.
Abby behaves like a kid herself. That is not how an adult behaves. Also according to some comments in her videos (which I think are now deleted) she doesn't even know much about dancing since she was teaching incorrect moves.
Ik this is a terrible situation but that one girl who just went “I’m sorry, I’m black ??” I love her, like bro she can’t really control what she looks like man and Abby really thought that shit was okay like ???
Exactly I feel bad for the poor girl. She just wanted some braids and Abby compared her hair to logs. I get it’s heavy but just tie it at the top so that the weight is balanced out
@@1fish146 ya, normally when you have thick curly/coily hair it can be heavy, trust me I would know. I hear that it’s a lot to deal with but still there’s nothing you can do about your natural hair except get used to it and learn to love ir
Exactly, I mean why is a middle-aged woman so pissy about a little girl’s hair? It’s *hair* and it doesn’t effect her dancing skill whatsoever, because it’s not on her feet or legs, it’s on her head. If Abby wasn’t literally abusing children, I would laugh at her ridiculousness.
I’m glad jojo got out of this mess and found her own claim to fame. Also something notable about dance moms is that In one of the earlier episodes, you can hear a cast member whispering lines to a child. I don’t remember the kid’s name, but she was the candy apple’s mom’s kid and it was a scene in the kid’s room.
As a big dance moms fan, this show should have never been made and is terrible. But IM a BIG dance moms fan, I have watched every episode, and always wish their was more episodes to watch (luckily their isn’t tho.)
My mum did the same thing and I always thought it was because she was so emotionally unaware (I recognized she was verbally abusing me a lot before that but not this particular thing). Wow. Thank you my mind is kind of blown
I honestly got a bit triggered by the "don't cry" tactic. Had abusive parents. I ended up developing borderline personality disorder which I'm sure was because of my upbringing. Having emotions from stressful situations then being totally invalidated over it. It fucking sucks.
I met a dance studio owner, last year, who knows Abby personally. And he basically said what Nia did. What you see is what you get. He said she is this way in real life.
21:30 “I’m sorry, I’m black” that literally put me to tears, it’s so sad to see these beautiful girls ashamed because of their skin color and ethnicity :(
she really is a beautiful, skilled girl and she deserved and still deserves so much better. People don't understand that a bad childhood stays with someone their whole life and shapes who they become and their self-worth. This is no question a bad childhood. Hurt by their teacher, exploited for money and fame of not even them but Abbey because no child walked away unscathed and weren't given a choice of whether they wanted to stay or not. Most of them say it wasn't worth it and its so tragic to me that their early years were shadowed with judgement from an adult woman who was supposed to be helping them. Bullying from other kids is one thing, kids don't know better unless they're taught and they can still change and become better people. Abbey will never get better because she doesn't want to. I'm really glad she got therapy and that her and her mom are doing much better. Nobody deserves to be made fun of about something they can't control, and its even more baffling that such a sweet and lovely girl could be bullied by that old, racist, childish hag on national tv and nobody batted an eye, it was even encouraged by the producers. Absolutely sickening humans if you can even call them that. My heart bleeds for these girls.
@Blu Cherries I think this more shows you what disgusting, unempathetic people are like. Most people in the world would look at a child treated this way and be appalled like everyone here. Tv producers are absolutely heartless to anyone. Anything for views, doesn't matter what they have to do or who they have to hurt. And putting out ideas like that on television lines their pockets because people for Abbey and against her will watch solely for the drama, they don't have to agree to be drawn in. Love or hate her, she makes money by being a racist, immature bitch.
I'm actually surprised that you didn't touch on how her favoritism to Maddie affected Mads and her relationships with the other dancers. That has to be a complex dynamic to experience bc you know your friends resent the treatment you get, but also have to juggle the fact that you cant just simply ask her to dial it back.
Someone said that she KISS HER withouth her consent, so that scream p3do behavior like crazy, just cuz she is a woman she gets a free pass to abuse kids boundaries ???? And then poor madie is given to another p3do woman ? Cuz ZIA IS WEIRDLY obsess with maddie too
“Oh so she’s a baby? She can’t handle talking from a little girl?” I don’t love a lot of what Jojo is up to as an adult but she will always be so real for this 👏🏼
Well, abby is a narcissist, like a legitimate narcissist. She literally shows all signs of narcissism. Being: 1. Insulting everyone to put herself on a pedestal and to make everyone submissive through fear 2. Gets borderline violent when confronted about their inflated ego 3. Cannot stand the idea of someone doing better than her in any way shape or form 4. Pitting dancers against each other to create division and to make the dancers fight for abbys affection creating division (either by picking favs or putting one down while glorifying the rest)
As a secondary school actor with a strict instructor, I can tell you for a fact she is not a strict teacher. She is a bully. Strict teachers push you to work harder, I have broken down before in the studio, but only when I was being a little shit and irresponsible. My teacher would push me only when necessary and after she would be one of the sweetest people alive. Pushing people to do better should not have long lasting harmful effects on them, it should encourage them to grow, not fear every action or word they say.
exactly this ^^^ i’ve worked with multiple strict instructors that, despite their harsh teaching style, have always made sure i understood that they believed in me and were pushing me to be the best performer i could be. i’ve definitely broken down multiple times in rehearsals under their instruction, but it was their expectations and support that helped me to keep going. huuuge difference between that and whatever bullshit abby is pushing
@@CyanideOwl I can tell ur white or at least non-black. To black girls and black women is general our hair is a very sensitive subject. We get made fun of it no matter what we do with it. There are certain things you shouldn’t say to certain races because of the discrimination we have faced because of our certain features.
@@CyanideOwl Yes it does. Ask a few black women and young girls about their hair and you'll see how sensitive of a topic it really is. A lot goes into the subject. I somewhat agree with you on how Abby said what she did because she had nothing else to insult, but for a different reason. It feels like her comment was like how non-poc will use the n-word against black people when they have nothing else to say to get a rise out of them. It's like dehumanizing them. But in this instance, it's more like saying she can't be as good because of her ethnicity. Which I guess is less awful to say? If that makes sense. But it's still pretty shitty and completely inaccurate.
I had a music teacher like Abby in 5th grade (not quite as bad), but she had definite, obvious favorite students and would scream at, bully, and mock the other students. I didn't at all feel comfortable enough to approach her with any questions which made it exceptionally difficult to learn how to play my instrument, especially because I didn't know anyone else who played it. I really felt that I had no one available to teach me effectively. .After that school year, I gave up the clarinet and didn't pick up another instrument until I was 18 and learned how to play the ukulele from family and neighbors. As it turns out, I am capable of learning how to play an instrument when I'm taught by a decent teacher.
I hate this show, Abby is highly abusive. But at the same time, some of the moments in dance moms are actual comedy gold, there was one time where one of the moms smacked Abby and Abby called the cops saying “the lady with the cool and trendy haircut hit me”, and that was a pretty funny part.
The clip of her wheeling off to a DQ after getting pissed at someone during a recital, and then the camera crew and producing just chasing after her not knowing what to do will forever live on as some of the funniest shit I’ve seen
@@idkman9696 dude I haven’t watched the show since like 2016 or something so I haven’t seen the recent seasons, I just heard one day she was going to jail for tax fraud or something and that was pretty cool to hear
Abby reminds me of those english or math teachers you had in school that were proud that no one liked their class. "If a kid likes the class, it's probably not challenging enough" - actual quote (maybe not word for word but the exact sentiment) Now, it probably is a bit sus if most of the students are excited to go to english or math class, but you shouldn't throw any enjoyment out the window. It was usually older and drained teachers who had this attitude.
Funny thing is that after how badly Abby treated Jojo, she's practically crawling back to her and tying Jojo's success to herself. Even Jojo points out sometimes how badly she was treated and how nice she has it now, but moreso in a playful way so she doesnt sound like she resents Abby or is trying to turn the narrative against her. Jojo seems like such a kind girl, I'm glad she found success in all that mess.
My kid went to a dance school. I can relate to this. The backstage mums were brutal. The day my kid said she didn't want to do ballet was the best day of my life in a long while. I hated the whole experience.
I feel like, unless the local authorities are *heavily* involved, minors should not be on any show what-so-ever. Sure, it'll be a huge inconvenience for producing content featuring kids, but if Daddy-o-five, Cuties and Dance Moms have taught us anything, it's that we can't trust producers around minors. :/
@@desisparta If "Logan" is the X-Men related movie, then I regret yo say I haven't seen it. Regardless, we're balancing out whether adults can have more and more access into the lives of children; it's a risk-reward kind of thing. We could have characters like you mentioned (which I didn't openly object to, as I said there was an exception in my original comment), but at the same time, we run the risk of other producers committing to pedophilia and child abuse. Personally, I think the risk is far too steep; time has shown we're currently too unregulated (entertainment wise) to work with children in environments lacking in domestic moderation.
Not sure, if we really need local authorities (unless with stuff like Cuties where it borders on a crime) but yeah, something like these shows need to be more controlled, if they treat the children right. It honestly should be a given, that this should only happen, as long as the child really wants to be part of a show (and not be moms/dads tool to live out their failed dreams) and the staff working on it does every so it feels comfortable. But then you sadly have these kinds of shows, where they make the children miserabel and you just wonder, how much it screws with their lives later on.
@@lamlelamatsiliza8550 TLC was always my guilty pleasure. Mostly looking at the dresses on Say Yes to the Dress or saying wtf to 600 Pound Life. It's trash TV, but don't touch my garbage!
That’s the thing I don’t think she can dance maybe when she was a kid but on this show? No way. She just yells out a move and the kids better know exactly what she’s talking about. Her physically dancing? Nah man. Gianna was the only adult I saw actually doing the moves.
Abby: will throw a tantrum when a child calmly asks if she can have a solo. Jojo: can stay calm while being on the verge of tears as abby is screaming in her face, telling her she deserves nothing. Now remind me who the child is and who the adult is?
the part about abby insulting chloe's medical condition really hurts me. my sister has silent sinus syndrome, and she gets bullied constantly because her eye is all janked up. it just destroys her self esteem.
"are u making fun of me cause im in a wheelchair and i cant stomp my feet" 1. that is an expression 2. When people start nitpicking random details rather than argumenting, you know you won.
Remember that one part in the show where Abby insulted Nias hair? I don’t know why people back then disregarded her actions and said that she was just being “strict” like no she’s straight up verbally abusing kids.
It really speaks to the horrible culture of competitive children's sports that so many people can excuse a woman screaming in a child's face until they cry as "just being strict" and a "tough teacher". Just because it's been normalized, it doesn't mean that it's okay. Fear may seem to be an effective way of motivating people in the short-term, but in the long-term, it actually leads to poorer performance due to anxiety, especially when you're doing it to CHILDREN, who will internalize that stuff for life.
Exactly!!! The sooner people realize this kind of toxicity is found in a lot of competitive children’s sports the better, it’s hidden behind gymnastics, behind soccer, behind dance, behind basketball. I think dance classes just adds as few pinches of body image issues and toxic femininity and theatricality to make it more “reality show worthy”
I always think of it like Gorden Ramsey. He's tough with kids but its in a you made a mistake that's okay I'm proud of you for trying let me show you how to do this so that you don't make the mistake again. He doesn't yell he doesn't judge or degrade he says its okay lets try again. I think that's what kids needs maybe don't coddle but be sweet
Agreed :0 and it drives children away from dance :( unacceptable behavior as a teacher. Im a choreographer now and I feel like rule number 1 is never throw your dancers under bus :( ☹
@@cryptid176 It's season 6 In dance moms. It's the episode when some girls had to do a dance with boys and they had to kiss. So when Abby Lee grabbed a girl she kissed a girl mouth to mouth it's disgusting because Abby held her cheek like they was making out.
The fact that woman abuse Chloe for so long just because she didn't like her mom is the most disgusting thing, she even make fun of her eye, admit she never wanted her to win, yell to her face she "will destroy her" seriously, how on earth is that nasty woman allow to teach to children
Chloe came out just fine. Abby can be a bitch, but keep in mind, you only see what the cameras want you to see, which is chaos & drama that Abby is usually in the middle of.
My friend’s mom is also friends with the mom cast of dance mom’s, and my friend told me that they heavily suggest not to go to the Abby Lee dance company. I was like “why won’t they let you go?” And now that I watch this video, I can definitely see why.
While it’s *amazing* Jojo had that self-awareness and empathy for the other girls, it’s so sad that her innocence had to be cut down to get to that point. Imagine traumatizing a child so much that they start examining the behavior of adults and questioning the people they have no choice but having to trust.
Yeah, it's really sad that Jojo could calmly say "if you yell at me, I'm gonna cry." Wonder how many times she's had to explain that to an adult to get that calm about it.
Abby telling Nia and her mother Holly that she couldn’t wear braids made me livid. She was allowed to change the style but not the cut- which she did. Abby still had a heyday. And the amount of times she called Holly a bad/absent mother for *working* and *getting her doctorate* instead of being at the dance studio? Abby can’t handle anyone who doesn’t conform to her exact standards and beliefs. Watching the show back as an adult instead of a child is just heartbreaking. Abby’s abusive tendencies are why my mom would never watch the show with me back in the day.
The way she treated Nia and Holly was absolutely appalling! I remember in a few episodes in which she actually excluded Nia and JoJo from group dances and group activities all because Nia was performing a concert and decided to have JoJo dance with her. As someone who has seen quite a few episodes (my mom LOVES the show) it always felt, if you weren't Maddie or Mackenzie or Kendall, you were nothing
It would piss me off the she looked down on the other mother's for not working, always making comments like "I don't have a husband to pay my bills," and saying things like "People used to just drop there kids off at the studio and let me do my job." Yet she said that shit to Holly about being absentee! There is no way to make her happy. Either way, you're slacking and you're less than her in her mind. She's crazy
11:07 I'm pretty sure this is considered slander, an actual crime, and she could (and absolutely should) sue for millions. That's literally defamation of character and I highly encourage everyone on that show to sue the absolute ever loving crap out of the scumbags on that show that were responsible for intentionally portraying her in such a light.
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@@Sghghost115 pp
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Abby also bodyshamed soo many girls while being plus size herself....
It’s like a hard core racist telling other racists that racism is bad
Like the fuck Abby? I was over weight until I was 13 and I ALWAYS body shamed myself every day, but doing that to others. No.
but she can because shes Abby and Abby can do whatever she wants with no consequences (sarcasm)
The Irony omg
Por donde abby era "pluz size" abby era una obesa mórbida, una hamburguesa más en su dieta y la tía se moria de un paro cardíaco, una mujer pluz size al lado de abby se ve delgada, por favor
It's sad that Jojo Siwa, the literal child, was more mature than this woman.
(For historical purposes, this comment will remain. Connor The Undying does not condone the actions of Jojo Siwa.)
I have respect for that girl
it's really sad that jojo is so shamed now for acting like a kid (which she still is) and just living her life the way she wants, when people like abby stay intact.
@@bellalalala3327 exactly!! she's a minor, people can't berate her for living her life as she and others do
@Radio Star she probably was 17 in this show
@Radio Star 17 year olds are literally children. both the body and the brain aren’t fully developed until around age 25. one of the reasons 18 is the legal adult age in america is because they needed more people to draft. so yea 17 is a literal child because they are 8 years away form being fully developed
edit: since some of you can’t understand that a child isn’t strictly 5 year olds here’s this. no i’m not saying a 17 year old an 5 year old have the same brain development. i’m saying we should keep in mind brain development when talking to/about humans under 25. a 18 is capable of living alone and voting even so they aren’t fully developed and are stil tencilcly a child and that should be kept in mind when dealing with them and for yourself you shouldn’t feel bad for not being able to do everything a 25 year old can when your 18 because ‘your both adults’ because you aren’t both fully developed so you don’t need to have everything together. and maturity and brain development aren’t the same thing.
“I can make a kid cry in 30 seconds”
....I'M SORRY WHAT-
Anyone can make a child cry easily, the problem is feeling like that's an accomplishment and bragging about it
that's her only achievement in life
the way she holds it as a point of pride too-
@Radio Star wow you’re so cool!16!!4
I mean anyone can but no one should brag
Things that Abby is good at:
- being mean to children
- being mean to parents in front of their children
- being on _two_ billboards
- getting arrested
- being edited to look better
- throwing tantrums at little girls
I mean, look how talented she is. No wonder she thinks so highly of herself.
Dat beeutch was and still is the perfect example of a Karen before the meme became popular with liberals and delinquents.
𝙻𝙼𝙰𝙾𝙾-
I mean honestly I watched dance moms and literally 90 percent of the episodes are kids crying and Abby having a tantrum
Well she's also good at using tacky jewelry imo
Were you trying to kill me?
_Because you fucking did it_
LMAO
“YoU dEsErVe nOtHiNg”
*jojo slowly becomes more famous than her*
She's ultra famous now and Abby.........
Who's Abby?
@@druzil9443 Mcdonalds meal on wheels
@@db5094 i Will never eat at Mcdonald's again;!!!!!!!!xD
@@druzil9443 shes a Karen
@@eveecat5198 she's done for......
No one cares about her anymore......
See, at least Mr. Gordon Ramsey understands kids are still learning and doesn’t except pErFeCtIoN from *children.*
Comparing Gordon Ramsay to this.....thing, is just ridiculous.
@@mageflame7477 gordon can be tough, but nowhere near compared to this...mutation
I know, Gordon’s great and his shows are awesome, but I wasn’t going to go as far and compare Abby- that THING, to Simon Cowell.
@@modernqueen9243 wait a sec i can’t tell if ur trying to say simon or abby are bad
@@cybercat360_ Abby is bad, Simon has limits, Abby doesn’t.
"Young adult" She's 14 that's not a young adult.
Ikr! 18 is a young adult. Not a teenager
A really hate it when adults call teenagers young adults during certain situations and call them CHILDERN with other situations. Like those are not the same words mate what do you really expect from teens!?
Yep! My own mother does that. Toxic parents really are fond of picking and choosing when their kids are “stupid kids” or “young adults” when it’s suitable for their argument.
Yea I genuinely hated it in primary school when the adults would tell us off saying "this is not acceptable you are young adults" (we were 11 and 12)
r o x a n n e .r e y e s yesssss as a teenager you have no clue how mad that makes me
A weird detail is that in the Latin American dub, she has the same VO actor as Cartman from South Park, and it fits her so much, because they are basically the same person.
That’s the most perfect voice casting I’ve ever heard of in my life.
Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
@triccele
I hope whoever was responsible for that dub casting got promoted because that is some genius casting. 😂
I like to think that was on purpose
The Latin American dubbers really knew Abby.
imagine being proud of having the technique to make children cry
That's ducked up..
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You just roasted a bunch of middle aged child abusers.
My stepdad
"I can make a kid cry! I'm a great person am I right?"
So Abby gets a pass to be verbally abusive towards children, because she’s Abby? Seems legit.
Everything is probably staged lol
@@midnight_rain
Doesn't change the effect it has on the children in the slightest.
@@midnight_rain
Not everything. A lot of the times the parents and Ms. Abby fighting and yelling were real, along with the kids crying. Season 7 and 8 were kinda really staged though. Sometimes the costumes and props would be “missing” because the producers decided that stealing items that cost money was okay. They also would cut scenes out changing how the argument was seen. They would also control the parents and kid’s Twitter accounts, idk about Abby though. Ultimately, it still doesn’t change how it affected the kids.
@@midnight_rain
Also, MackZBoss is where I got this information.
She has a permanent get out of jail free card
This woman isn't a 'strict teacher', she's just a bully. Strict teachers don't need to yell at kids or pick on their appearance. Sometimes kids cry in competitive environments, but that's when you drop what you're doing and make sure they're okay before bringing them back in. What she does is she tries to make good reality TV, and good reality TV is incompatible with good teaching and childcare.
There is this movie s'eries here in Germany created decades ago about a ballet dancer named ''Anna'' in the movies she grew up from a kids dancer, many problems to actually a teenage competitive ballet dancer with a very strict teacher. I compare it, because it also wasn't really real :D And while as a kid I hated that teacher I also know the differences to ... Abby. Like. The teacher was correcting Anna harshly, kind of mean and wanted to have every detail perfect. But after all she never really bullied Anna. She showed her the truth of life in the show-world.
Yeah I mean ... just a movie series but .... it was much more Drama than dance moms but at the same time so much more .... human.
Strict teacher is a fancy word for bully
@@carmenrider8216 Mmm not really lol.
@@carmenrider8216
No, there’s a difference.
Strict Teacher: If you want to succeed, you need to work harder.
Bully: You’ll never amount to anything. You’re the worst.
@@chaosincarnate7304 Many teachers who are played off as strict teachers are often just bullying their students into passing
I just realized that ava, the girl that was kicked out because she was too tall, is the same girl that plays the role of jodi in "tall girl". Which is about the girl getting bullied for being tall.
Just imagine being cut from something because of your height and later down the line got a main role in a movie where you get bully for your height.
i feel bad for disliking that movie
I think the story could've been written better
Fell hard
Ironically, most supermodels are tall
Jojo looks like 9 years old in that clip and she’s somehow calmer and more articulate than Abby WHILE CRYING
@@theorangedinosaur4098 Is your uncle actually a cop?
@@paradoxtatorstudios9681 No I just needed something to ryme
She’s 11 but I agree
Is that a jojo reference?
And more articulate than she is now
I love that people would just give her an excuse because she’s Abby so she’s aloud to be verbally abusive towards children-
In some states it’s illegal to do that and I’m pretty sure she has broken that law multiple times
BUt sHeS tEaChInG tHeM hOw tO dAnCe!!!1
Seriously! I have to get in an argument with people over the internet because they saw Abby doing one good thing and think she's amazing. "The media portrays her in a bad light" so THAT'S why they cut out the line that Abby made about Chloe's medical condition related to her eye right? Or why they weren't filming when Abby said she didn't want "any little Tooties" on her show? Or maybe that's why all girls showed signs of PTSD, anxiety, and other mental health issues following their time on the show.
One parent argued with her she was like "ArE yOu InSuLtInG mE bEcAuSe Of My DiSaBiLiTy?" when she insults kids based off of stuff they can't control all the time.
Not gonna lie I was like this when I was first watching the show. I thought she was doing what was best for the students. I stopped watching when Jojo first joined the show and when I googled it just now she joined in 2015 so I was 12/13. Wow looking back I was so wrong. I don’t know how I thought that was just a strict teacher.
"I can make a child cry in 30 seconds."
Good for you Abby. Anyone else can slap a kid across the face and make them cry on 3 seconds, but you don't see them bragging about it.
It takes a special kind of malicious narcissist to be proud of how good you are at inflicting psychological abuse on little girls.
Imagine If Roles Were Rersed Abby Are A Man What You Would Happened
@@prowrestingfanforlife8673 godzilla had a stroke trying to read this and fucking died
@@prowrestingfanforlife8673 sorry this comment made me laugh for no reason 😂🤣🤣
@@user-it5gh8w1l me too our humour must be really bad 💀
@@prowrestingfanforlife8673 what
I don't understand how lifetime got away with airing actual child abuse and child endangerment without any civil or legal repercussions. There are a lot of people that need to serve actual prison time for this show.
They - *_Lifetime Network_* - should be a LANDFILL by now; No employees, no money, their headquarters building a *_SMOLDERING pile of ashes,_* just.... Oh my God!!
“She can’t handle talking from a little girl?” Jojo coming in with the factsss
I used to think Jojo Siwa was kind of cringe when I was 10 but now that i've matured a bit more, I realize she was just living the way she wants and nobody should be judge for that especially when you're not hurting anyone
@@imp2389 it honestly cool since people her age do like smoking and stuff
@@isabeliio smoking? Oh shiver me timbers 😱😱😱🤯😱🤯🤯😱😱
@@max_punch shiver me timbers for your lungs 😱😱😱
Jojo is a better role model than Danielle Cohn.
Abby : *Verbally Abuses Children*
Children: *Cries*
Abby: 'No, no , no I will not have students crying.'
Me: I-
If you screams at a child they will cry that is just how it works-
@@imaginebeinglazyaboutyourn4964 if someone screamed at me I would cry and I’m nearly 26 haha. That’s how humans react to events around them.
yep she will be fine as a mother
@@aintgonnaletuknow5758 child services would be called every single day if she was a parent
@@littlebug6746 it's sarcasm cause many mom and teacher are like that :P
Jojo Siwa is the true protagonist of Dance Moms. Destroying Abby with facts & logic like she's in Danganronpa.
Bruh, I love that analogy.
PUNISHMENT TIME!
What’s her ultimate
Edit:I’m surprised no one said ultimate dancer
@@ailenegutierrez8189 POS
@@ailenegutierrez8189 ultimate reality show contestant
the fact is: Abby is such a talented person for:
-bullying children
-throwing tantrums
-getting edited
-getting arrested
-not having good arguments
SUCH A TALENTED PERSON 😍👏👏
nice comment
Such a talented clown ❤️❤️❤️
Let's not forget when Abby threw a chair at Paige
Wait a grown woman threw a chair at a child?
@@kristyraza6041 well, near her.
@@kristyraza6041 well... kinda search Abby throws chair at Paige
😱😱😤 WHAT???!!
*EXCUSE ME WHAAAAAT?????*
I've never cared about Jojo but that clip of her trying to hold herself together while a 40+ yo witch curses her into oblivion made my heart sink
While I personally don't like her I still understand she doesn't deserve that
@@avacadotoast5571 yeah I can agree no one deserves being yelled at Because of body size and other things
@@avacadotoast5571 what reason do you have to dislike her? she’s just a character for children
@@nctzen3to3 Personality
No child deserves that. Good on Jojo for being so mature in the face of this abuse.
people saying “it’s okay because it’s Abby” is literally what shane dawson said when defending jeffree’s actions, “what do you expect? it’s Jeffree fucking Star” as if that’s an excuse. notice how Gordon Ramsay doesn’t treat kids that way on Master Chef Jr, because they’re just kids, in an already competitive environment....
Gordon Ramsey is a perfect example of being a true “tough teacher” he’s tough when he needs to be, and soft when he needs to be, yes you’ll see him yelling at contestants, but it’s only towards the food they make, he doesn’t yell for his own twisted satisfaction but to simply help them grow in the cooking industry, plus he will always later tell them what they did wrong kindly and tell them how to improve. It’s called “tough love” which is what Abby completely abused and said rude hateful disrespectful things and then covers it up by saying, “oh it’s just tough love deal with it”.
@@isabellemackwell2262 even then, Ramsey doesn’t yell at the kids and even with the adults he knows how to read the room.
Like there was one guy who Ramsey accidentally triggered (bc he used a insult the dude associated with his abusive dad) and Ramsey immediately backed off and apologized.
@@carolinebilletdoux3091 what episode was that ?
@@peppito8408 It’s maybe been a week but I think I found which one they meant ruclips.net/video/aDtf0F9Bsow/видео.html
I mean, dogs will always be dogs, same thing goes with jerks. so I don't think we should be mad or something, just sad about them.
I’m not exactly a fan of JoJo Siwa, but I am thoroughly entertained by the fact that she went on to have an immensely more successful and meaningful career than Abby
Even Gordon Ramsay doesn't treat kids like this holy shit
Gordon Ramsay isn’t an asshole so of course not
Here's some Good JoJo MMD for those who saw Horrid Shit like Dance moms.
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Gordon Ramsay is an angel with kids !! not for adults but he is definitely so much better than abby
@@bambithedambi6946 I think the difference in Gordon's attitudes towards adults vs children is that children are young and are still learning, while "most" adults should just know better (I say most because Gordon can be quite civil to chefs/staff etc who are clearly trying but just lack skill or are in a bind due to management)
He's actually nice to kids.
It's where adults he acts like this.
Am I the only one who's really pissed off at the fact that the editors made all these people look like conceited, narcissistic assholes, but somehow made Abbey look better? What's worse is that they were basically slandering these people's names on national tv.
Nope you are not the first like Jesus the show there should be prosecuted for being a disgrace for hummanity
@@lamlelamatsiliza8550 I absolutely agree.
It just shows that the entertainment industry is just one big hellhole and the producers and celebrities are the demons
It's like making Darth Sidious look like a protagonist
@@deepfriedspaghetti982 it's mostly just the people who control it
"I could probably make a kid cry in thirty seconds."
Ooh, what a tough scary badass you are. You can make children cry. Because THAT'S really hard to do.
It's hard to make me cry and I'm 14. 😎
@@njyawndra8609 wowah so tough
I can make a child cry in thirty seconds as well, I just choose not to because it’s a C H I L D
Take it from me, a minor, it is very easy to make me cry
@@kattozilla74 I’m almost I not minor and literally existing makes me cry sometimes
My ex-girlfriend is a dance instructor. She used to watch this show. We broke up because she became more and more like Abby. On what planet is it okay to arrange kids in a literal pyramid?!
Obviously Tubby here, she has a pharaoh complex, but I'm pretty sure sphinxes would be ugly as hell with her Meat Canyon @$$ face on them.
Can we stop canceling people who don't actually need to be canceled and finally go after people like Abby ? She's been off the hook for way too long
Agreed.
I would go farther and cancel all the people who watches that garbage (if it was possible). That hag wouldn’t have a job if this kind of crap didn’t sell.
@@niki_bbb I, personally, wouldn't go this far, but at the very least I want to know: why the fuck do people watch this shit?
It's people like you who make the internet a toxic environment! How about we STOP cancel culture and focus on positive things for once!?!
@@absolutelychampagne so are you planning to ignore all the trauma this woman caused these children? For God's sake, the OP specifically said that we should stop cancelling innocent people and focus on degenerates like Abby.
Cancel culture as a tool of silencing and going after well-being of innocent people is disgusting. But it really triggers me when someone who made a questionable joke 10 years ago is being automatically cancelled, while people like her still have a career.
"Honey you're too tall!"
Abby: *Cuts off the girls leg*
Abby: Honey you're too short.
Do you have any idea what getting away from her mother would have done about that girl's height?
@@Author.Noelle.Alexandria Just a question, what would it have done? I know I'm 1 month late but please, inform me on that.
Pleasetellme
@@kanyewestfan4758 omg i knew i recognized her
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Basically yes
I never thought I’d say this but Jojo Siwa is kind of a badass
We stan Jojo
She's gone from annoyed disdain, to annoyed but respected. A lot better than most popular 'influencers' around today
Disagree. She is still defending Abby today and keeps saying she doesn't understand why the OGS won't talk to Abby
@@chichi3183 who tf is abby
@@papermind4010 The evil dance teacher. Are you even watching the video?
I remember my sister used to be obsessed, and I mean OBSESSED with this show. I didn’t like the amount of drama, but I never stopped to consider how truly atrocious it was.
My sister watches that show too and I get annoyed when I see her watching because I remember hearing about the drama
so does mine and when ever i point out how bad abby is, her excuse is "well her mom died" or "well it's her studio" also i hate the intro of this show @@Cartoonist113
Isn't this the show that gave that actress who spearheaded Tall Girl her "tall" complex?
Wait WHAT
Yea she’s Michelle’s daughter
yup, it's her
@. I feel so fucking bad for her. We all had a good laugh at the movie but seeing why she feels the way she does... it's so sad. None of those kids deserved what happened to them; it sucks they have to carry those insecurities and pain with them forever now. 😪
Yeah, it makes that movie a lot more understandable as she was really made to feel like a freak, i hope she's doing ok
Why the hell were there children in what seemed to be bikini tops? Also I’m shocked how Jojo turned out. Kinda heartwarming how positive she turned out
Those outfits are useful for dancing alot, it doesn't catch on anything, allows movement without restraint and stops the dancers from overheating. I understand what you are saying though.
Jojo turned out well because she & her mom gamed Abby from the start. Like using her iconic bows to give her a "brand" that made Jojo stand out. They absolutely played Dance Moms & won
I may not really care for Jojo Siwa, but I'm glad to see she turned out so sweet and positive after dealing with such a bitch
@@spinnyboination7830 same.
That’s actually pretty normal dance attire. It’s just easier to dance in and allows breathability. Younger kids especially tend to go for the bras and shorts, and as they get older usually transition more into leggings.
Honestly, even as a child I knew that this show was really wrong and pretty verbally abusive. I dunno why it was so successful. ;-;
My emotionally and verbally abusive dad and his narcissistic wife really loved this show, huh its a mystery. But they used to actually use it as an excuse to treat me in a similar way
It gives people drama to get swept up in.
@@BriarBeeBenson
Oh god that's horrible... I hope you're doing better!
@@BriarBeeBenson You need a Tickle Monster, buddy?
@Imani Alexander
Nice mate, me too! :3
Gotta love the mom who asked why Abbie doesn't stomp her feet during her temper tantrums. She knows how to cut *deep* 😂
Honestly, it's interesting looking back at the show now. Including all the things you mentioned, there was so much racism, sexualization and exploitation of minors, and disregard for mental health. As someone who used to watch the show when I was younger, I feel disgusted when looking back. I'm glad that cast members like Jojo and Nia seem to be happy, but upsetting that most children cast members are obviously suffering mentally. I wish all of the children cast members the best.
Especially when she constantly type casted nia and never allowed holly to say something or else she’d take away her only roles. Yet the other moms get to scream and curse at her, which holly has never done. Its so gross on her part😒
@@j1ung996 true! the type casting was just disgusting tbh. It seems like Abby just wanted to torture Holly & Nia for no reason
SCREAMING i didn't expect to see an olivia hye profile picture here. and yes i totally agree so many microaggressions, racism, sexualization, and trauma. i feel so bad
@@frogcheska6762 lol i didn't expect to see Jinsoul either 😂 but yeah, it's terrible
racism? can you give me an example of it? I'm genuinely curious bc I haven't seen the show
“If you yell at me, i'm _gonna_ cry.”
“Go. Out.”
Jojo litterally is like, so calm and just spat logic, and Abby acts like a little girl
I respect Jojo so much for staying collected while basically crying.
Yea
Yeah
@@oswiroa4973 why?
i don't watch jojo's video's but i think she's a really good human
jojo's been having a lot of rather bizarre adventures
I can’t believe you all are comparing her to Gordon. Gordon isn’t that bad, come on. He only really insulted people who practically poisoned others while claiming to be a great chef. He treats kids good
fr. he only insults the dishes of adults who should already know how to cook properly.
Exactly. He only yells at the adults who claim to be “world class chefs” and they are making rookie mistakes or being lazy. They should already know better. It’s common sense to not store your poultry with fucking vegetables.
Gordon treats people who are borderline poisoning people better than she treats kids.
No one said he was bad. Thats why people are comparing him. Gordon understands kids unlike Abby. He s treats them like a father they never had,, while Abby just emotionally abuses her students. Though Gordon is harsh on the adults on hells kitchen because they come on the shows expected to be professional chefs and they think they can cook, tho a lot of them can't. Hes harsh on them because the are old enough to know better.
@@ChrisChras I meant people who say she's like Gordon or that they're similar/ not that different. They were comments like that when I wrote the original comment
The only impressive thing about Abby is the fact that she somehow manages to represent the entirety of Twitter.
She goes on at people saying they hate her for being disabled, but then mocks a girl with a medical condition, wow.
Oh the HYPOCRISY she has!!!!!
She will call people out as long as it benefits her. As soon as she disagrees with someone, she will do the same thing to them. She is a hypocrate.
IKR shame on her!
Logic 999
“Why was I kicked out?”
“Because you talked back to her”
“Oh so she’s a little baby?”
Jojo is my favourite character of this show
Hmmm why do people talk about the Jojo anime?
@@mikeymladi9279 You joking?
@@yourtrashtalkingbro9118 yeah, it was a joke
@@mikeymladi9279 Siwa jojo
@@mikeymladi9279 jojo siwa's bizzare adventure
When it comes to harsh teachers, I would like to point out that Gordon Ramsey, unlike Abby, never yells at kids, as he understands that they could be driven away from cooking due to a bad experience, so he encourages them to keep trying and get better. So no, Abby wasn't rude because she was a harsh teacher. She was just an asshole
Gordon is an absolute sweetheart to kiss the difference is mind blowing. Verbally abusing adults it’s still bad but at least he draws the line with little kids
Agreed, Gordon Ramsey is actually a very nice person. He’s just very strict with his adult chefs. It’s crazy that people try to excuse Abby by saying it was “tough love”. It was flat out abuse, period.
@@susanalopez5052 He's only abusive when it's really awful. Like health hazard awful.
Gordon is actually the sweetest person ever around kids, it’s so cute 🥺
THIS👏 idk if abby has kids but gordon ramsey does and maybe that’s why, he realizes that yelling and degrading is really damaging to kids. i don’t ~love~ when he yells at adults but i feel like he knows they can handle it. Abby is just a bully
It’s crazy how calm Jojo is while literally crying. She’s calmer than Abby.
Abby seems like one of those moms who would make their kids cry and then say, "Keep crying. I'll give you something to cry about."
My mom says that..
Omg my dad literally just said that too my sister as I was reading this-
Bruh my mom says that.....
Yeah same. My mum says this but she's no bad parent. She yells only when times I deserve it like throw a ball at the TV screen
Mine does that
Dance Moms.
She's like Gordon Ramsay, but with none of the redeeming qualities that make his outbursts justified. Sounds great.
The biggest thing that makes Gordon's freak outs justified is that he is dealing with adults who are experienced enough to know better, see him work with children and it's easy to tell how much of a better person he is by how different his approach with them is.
@@nickelakon5369 or hes running basicallu a cheif themed game show with such a massive prize that him stressing the heck out of the chiefs is part of the challenge and in gordons words prepares them for the worst of the worst scenarios theyll face one day as cheifs
@@wilmagregg3131 I have friends working in gastronomical environments and I can say from their experience: Yelling and stress is kind of normal in the kitchen
But gordon is better
Gordon only lashes out at adults who say they know what they're doing, but obviously don't. He's nicer to kids and starting chefs because they are still learning as they go.
Honestly if I was on dance moms and abby was my teacher saying stuff like that to me, my anger issues could NEVER. I would've been kicked off the show for cursing her out every episode😭🤚🏾
My mom would've been throwing hands 😭
When I was younger I never really liked Jojo because I thought she was a bit cocky but now I'm way older I actually admire her. She's definitely become very successful and the fact she could hold her own so well is amazing honestly
Plus the fact that she went through that hell is just a testament of how much willpower she has
I heard she went on some bizarre adventures
While I couldn't care less about JoJo, I can still see that she had to deal with Abby the All-Evil and I can respect that.
@@Higglewoggle Ominous music in the background
@@thatonegaminglatias4345 agreed
"14 year old young adult." She's14, she's a teenager not an adult
Um regarding she’s approaching adulthood
Still neither of those are an adult
Preach
She calls them young adults when she wants to point out immature behavior, but then belittles them and calls them children when they do anything else. Basically, she identifies them however she wants to suit her narrative
I spat out my Cheez-Its when I heard that.
“I can make a child cry in 30 seconds”
I... don’t think that’s a skill-
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She said that so proudly.....
I mean, it a skill, but not a good one to have 😬
It is a skill
In damning yourself to hell
It’s insanely easy to make a kid cry, you just have to be an insane dick. And here she is treating it like a skill
She about lost it when Maddy said everyone cry's
Remember the time she threw a chair at a little girl and started screaming that “she was fine” when the mother got upset. The camera was mostly focused on the adults but you could see her visibly scared and shaken the kid was.
Why did she say “I can make a kid cry in 30 seconds” in such a proud way??? Who would be proud of that??
@@elijahyes3110 don't be afraid to stand up to her. politely of course, don't give her the satisfaction of anger. you dont need to let her fragile ego hurt you if you dont want it to. rely on others in your family if your mother has proven to not understand what it means to be one. of course give her credit for where she does right, but don't ever feel obliged to submit to her if she's done you a lot of wrong.
@@elijahyes3110 you're wrong, she's an awful person. You just think that because you're abused. The psychology of abuse is very complex and tragic, and reading up on it would be very helpful for someone in your position.
I wish you luck.
Karen.
@@arvo-noon I’m a Karen?
@@evaporatedwater7778 No I’m saying only a Karen would say that.
You know it's bad when the *6 year old contestants* are more mature than you.
Amen.
I’m sorry, *SIX*?! They’re like, 12-14.
@@mcpugh That’s the main group. There is a group of younger kids called “littles” I believe. It’s been a while since I watched it.
Exactly
@@mcpugh I've watched like the first 6 episodes of dance moms (season one) and there were two little 6 year old's
and the fact that everyone idolizes this show-
wait really ?
@Insert Name Here i lost Fath in humanity.
I never realized that. so they are idolizing a woman attacking children self asteem and confidence. WOW people are real trash
@@jurassicchicken1084 indeed.
As a kid one of my friends recommended watching this show. It horrified me
I actually knew Abby Lee when I was a kid. My sister danced at Maryen Lorrain Dance Studio in Abby's "Abby Lee Dance Company," and I had to be there a lot, so I know a little bit about how Abby Lee was in person. To be fair, she was nice to me, probably because I wasn't actually part of her whole dance domain. I was just some little kid who was always bumming around the place. Your assessment is pretty accurate about how she is to her students and parents off camera, though. She screamed at those kids often, and crying was pretty common. They were all terrified of her. She definitely did ridicule the kids for petty things that were out of their control. They had to have their hair in buns so tight it was painful, and my sister told me that for the older girls, they had to have leotards so tight that their was absolutely no jiggle in their chests, or they'd get torn a new one. The pyramid wasn't real, but there was a ton of political tension about who got solos and duets and stuff, so in spirit, it did kind of go down like that. The political stuff also created this whole cutthroat atmosphere, even with the parents. You definitely didn't need producers to create drama. It was way too much stress for my sister to have at such a young age.
Zack Peterson Is your sister doing okay now? That sounds like absolute Hell for a kid to go through. I’m no parent, but from watching some videos on mental welfare I know that it usually isn’t a good idea to subject young kids to toxic environments like Abby’s studio. How’s she doing now?
Tell us, how is your poor, poor sister. Idk her, but im sure shes a great person who doesn't deserve such treatment
Hope your sister is doing ok now after going through all that stress.
How is your sister😢is she ok cause i am genually worried for her i hope she is ok cause that studio is just not a great place for a kid to be and it can really damage someone mentally
@@katsukibakugou9519 Realistically, I don't think her experiences at the dance studio had a huge impact on her life. We all have ups and downs, and we've been through way worse than that. There were also positive experiences at dance. My sister is doing well now, on the whole. She's working as a landscape architect.
"I can't believe that a 14 year old, young adult-"
Ah yes, 14 year olds. Young adults. The ones with the most definitely developed brains. You know, the adults. The 14 year olds are young adults. Yes.
With very developed brain and can live by themselves and have very developed manners
And fourteen-year olds are very disipline, indeed.
I think alot of 14 year olds are more mature than abby
Who are able to drive and hold down jobs and live on their own.
You can’t even begin to say someone’s developed until they’re over 15
My respect for JoJo just skyrocketed. I always appreciated her as fun, wholesome, positive content for my kids to watch on her youtube channel, even if she does sound like the real life version of Dora the Explorer. But this is amazing. And it further proves that JoJo doesn't give an eff what anyone thinks. She says and does what is right for JoJo.
Jojo IS a good person just like the other kids.
Except Abby, Abby deserves hell.
Im a kid and i dont watch her, but i do respect her
She had some iffy moments on dance moms where she did mock other kids, and her mother straight up bullied a 12 year old to keep JoJo on the show (if the mums don't cause enough drama the kid gets kicked off), but it is good she stood up to Abby sometimes.
@@dylanhamilton1441 I didn't know any of this because I never watched dance moms. I only knew of her because I have little girls who used to watch her on youtube
@@heatherruth6734 Her own videos are good but just to watch out for that in case your kids come across the dance moms clips, they're quite upsetting to watch with JoJo's mother making a kid cry.
My niece was in dancing for part of her life and she was brilliant at it. Still is whenever she's on stage. But one day, one of the other dance moms literally came up to my six year old niece and told her "You gotta stop dancing so well. You're making Achleygh look bad."
(I WISH I was kidding about the spelling of that name. I am dead serious, that's how it was spelled.)
My sister immediately pulled her out of dance and left a scathing review on the website calling the woman out as well as the studio for the terrible treatment. Insanely, the lady tried to take her to court for slander and libel, but the case was dismissed because it's a business review which falls under Fair Use.
My niece entered theatre and honestly was a hell of a lot happier. The world of dance is just INSANE.
Maybe these kids are all in the wrong dancing schools, there’s plenty of other schools that don’t sexualize minors or overly express feminine stereotypes.
@@jasonmccool Nah, it’s a thing across the whole system. Some studios are just better at dealing with it than others
Theatre has its own issues but I think in general from my experience with it, and hearing about dance...it sounds a hell of a lot healthier
@@alim.9801 I agree, we can have some problems in theatre, but I know we don’t see nearly as much toxic drama as dance seems to
Abby behaves like a kid herself. That is not how an adult behaves. Also according to some comments in her videos (which I think are now deleted) she doesn't even know much about dancing since she was teaching incorrect moves.
It's American television, what do expect?
SHOULD be behave. Adults definitely behave that way anyway.
@Ok. true
“Don’t have an entitled attitude”
Check yourself lady
@@Whatareyoudoinnhere lol
@@Whatareyoudoinnhere 2 weeks passed.
@@Whatareyoudoinnhere "shut up stupid gacha" I said it
👍👍^_^
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Ik this is a terrible situation but that one girl who just went “I’m sorry, I’m black ??” I love her, like bro she can’t really control what she looks like man and Abby really thought that shit was okay like ???
Exactly I feel bad for the poor girl. She just wanted some braids and Abby compared her hair to logs. I get it’s heavy but just tie it at the top so that the weight is balanced out
@@katherine_queen5294 heavy????
@@1fish146 ya, normally when you have thick curly/coily hair it can be heavy, trust me I would know. I hear that it’s a lot to deal with but still there’s nothing you can do about your natural hair except get used to it and learn to love ir
Exactly, I mean why is a middle-aged woman so pissy about a little girl’s hair? It’s *hair* and it doesn’t effect her dancing skill whatsoever, because it’s not on her feet or legs, it’s on her head. If Abby wasn’t literally abusing children, I would laugh at her ridiculousness.
Let's just call it what it is, it's ræcist. Abby is ræcist.
I’m glad jojo got out of this mess and found her own claim to fame. Also something notable about dance moms is that In one of the earlier episodes, you can hear a cast member whispering lines to a child. I don’t remember the kid’s name, but she was the candy apple’s mom’s kid and it was a scene in the kid’s room.
This show is like glee, nobody hates it more than it’s own fans
Do you mean everyone hates it
that's because we loved the dancing and the girls.
very true
Fax
As a big dance moms fan, this show should have never been made and is terrible. But IM a BIG dance moms fan, I have watched every episode, and always wish their was more episodes to watch (luckily their isn’t tho.)
Yelling at a crying child to not cry is such a manipulative tactic for abusers to avoid guilt for their abusive actions. Makes me furious
holy shit, is it?? my mom does that a lot
*at that momment, she knew. Her mother did the same thing*
My mum did the same thing and I always thought it was because she was so emotionally unaware (I recognized she was verbally abusing me a lot before that but not this particular thing). Wow. Thank you my mind is kind of blown
I honestly got a bit triggered by the "don't cry" tactic. Had abusive parents. I ended up developing borderline personality disorder which I'm sure was because of my upbringing. Having emotions from stressful situations then being totally invalidated over it. It fucking sucks.
This happened to me all the time as a kid. I didn't realize the implications until I read your comment...
Did we just forget Abby kissed Maddie without consent being Maddie’s first kiss and everyone just laughed it off
I want to puke
@@AleTitan here’s a bucket for you and me🪣
@@strangelyukrainian7314 i’m not done yet so here’s an extra one for you🪣
@@IBL15 I need one as well
@@mewow3556 🪣 i could make a business out of this
I met a dance studio owner, last year, who knows Abby personally. And he basically said what Nia did. What you see is what you get. He said she is this way in real life.
21:30 “I’m sorry, I’m black” that literally put me to tears, it’s so sad to see these beautiful girls ashamed because of their skin color and ethnicity :(
Abby went waaaaay to far
she really is a beautiful, skilled girl and she deserved and still deserves so much better. People don't understand that a bad childhood stays with someone their whole life and shapes who they become and their self-worth. This is no question a bad childhood. Hurt by their teacher, exploited for money and fame of not even them but Abbey because no child walked away unscathed and weren't given a choice of whether they wanted to stay or not. Most of them say it wasn't worth it and its so tragic to me that their early years were shadowed with judgement from an adult woman who was supposed to be helping them. Bullying from other kids is one thing, kids don't know better unless they're taught and they can still change and become better people. Abbey will never get better because she doesn't want to. I'm really glad she got therapy and that her and her mom are doing much better. Nobody deserves to be made fun of about something they can't control, and its even more baffling that such a sweet and lovely girl could be bullied by that old, racist, childish hag on national tv and nobody batted an eye, it was even encouraged by the producers. Absolutely sickening humans if you can even call them that. My heart bleeds for these girls.
@Blu Cherries I think this more shows you what disgusting, unempathetic people are like. Most people in the world would look at a child treated this way and be appalled like everyone here. Tv producers are absolutely heartless to anyone. Anything for views, doesn't matter what they have to do or who they have to hurt. And putting out ideas like that on television lines their pockets because people for Abbey and against her will watch solely for the drama, they don't have to agree to be drawn in. Love or hate her, she makes money by being a racist, immature bitch.
Yeah like wtf is this about!!!!!?????
I know!
Even Gordon Ramsay treats kids better than Abby Lee Miller
Comparing Gordon Ramsay to Abby I like comparing diamonds to dog shit.
@@FrueBurge even dog shit is better then her
Don't come at dog shit like that🙄
@@Bruh-zn2yn Oh, my bad, I'm sorry
@@FrueBurge even diarrhea feels better than Abby Lee Miller.
I'm actually surprised that you didn't touch on how her favoritism to Maddie affected Mads and her relationships with the other dancers. That has to be a complex dynamic to experience bc you know your friends resent the treatment you get, but also have to juggle the fact that you cant just simply ask her to dial it back.
Someone said that she KISS HER withouth her consent, so that scream p3do behavior like crazy, just cuz she is a woman she gets a free pass to abuse kids boundaries ????
And then poor madie is given to another p3do woman ? Cuz ZIA IS WEIRDLY obsess with maddie too
@@jjba3571 I wonder where MAPS get their behaviour
@@hallwayl2366 don't call them maps, fuck that. Call them pædos
“Oh so she’s a baby? She can’t handle talking from a little girl?” I don’t love a lot of what Jojo is up to as an adult but she will always be so real for this 👏🏼
Well, abby is a narcissist, like a legitimate narcissist. She literally shows all signs of narcissism. Being:
1. Insulting everyone to put herself on a pedestal and to make everyone submissive through fear
2. Gets borderline violent when confronted about their inflated ego
3. Cannot stand the idea of someone doing better than her in any way shape or form
4. Pitting dancers against each other to create division and to make the dancers fight for abbys affection creating division (either by picking favs or putting one down while glorifying the rest)
I was totally thinking the same thing 👏👏👏
Abby lee miller has a massive ego
My toxic “friend” in a nutshell:
Damn.
That aren't Actually symptons, that IS Just a *SSHOLE behaviour
As a secondary school actor with a strict instructor, I can tell you for a fact she is not a strict teacher. She is a bully.
Strict teachers push you to work harder, I have broken down before in the studio, but only when I was being a little shit and irresponsible.
My teacher would push me only when necessary and after she would be one of the sweetest people alive.
Pushing people to do better should not have long lasting harmful effects on them, it should encourage them to grow, not fear every action or word they say.
exactly this ^^^ i’ve worked with multiple strict instructors that, despite their harsh teaching style, have always made sure i understood that they believed in me and were pushing me to be the best performer i could be. i’ve definitely broken down multiple times in rehearsals under their instruction, but it was their expectations and support that helped me to keep going. huuuge difference between that and whatever bullshit abby is pushing
so its kinda like how gordon ramsey is
@@Emanon905
hey guess what
Gordon Ramsey is nice to kid
@@someguy1894 yeah ik i maenat like gordon is a cool guy but when hes cooking he improves people by putting them under a lot of pressure
@@Emanon905 but they’re adults not kids
Let not forget that Abby insulted a little afro American girl because of her hair ☹️🤢
Being a person with an afro thats very insulting and the childs hair looked better then hers with her 1970 hairspray looking hair
Does it matter if the kid is black or not? No. She just insulted her hair because she had nothing else to insult.
@@CyanideOwl yes it does💀 if you knew about all the other racist shit she did to her and other black girls on and off the show
@@CyanideOwl I can tell ur white or at least non-black. To black girls and black women is general our hair is a very sensitive subject. We get made fun of it no matter what we do with it. There are certain things you shouldn’t say to certain races because of the discrimination we have faced because of our certain features.
@@CyanideOwl Yes it does. Ask a few black women and young girls about their hair and you'll see how sensitive of a topic it really is. A lot goes into the subject. I somewhat agree with you on how Abby said what she did because she had nothing else to insult, but for a different reason. It feels like her comment was like how non-poc will use the n-word against black people when they have nothing else to say to get a rise out of them. It's like dehumanizing them. But in this instance, it's more like saying she can't be as good because of her ethnicity. Which I guess is less awful to say? If that makes sense. But it's still pretty shitty and completely inaccurate.
I had a music teacher like Abby in 5th grade (not quite as bad), but she had definite, obvious favorite students and would scream at, bully, and mock the other students. I didn't at all feel comfortable enough to approach her with any questions which made it exceptionally difficult to learn how to play my instrument, especially because I didn't know anyone else who played it. I really felt that I had no one available to teach me effectively. .After that school year, I gave up the clarinet and didn't pick up another instrument until I was 18 and learned how to play the ukulele from family and neighbors. As it turns out, I am capable of learning how to play an instrument when I'm taught by a decent teacher.
I cannot describe how much I appreciate Hypixel gameplay in the background.
Epic gamer moves going on
100% agree
Minecraft is awesome
Abby : *humiliates children and is proud about it*
Child : *cries*
Abby : *surprised Pikachu face*
I hate this show, Abby is highly abusive. But at the same time, some of the moments in dance moms are actual comedy gold, there was one time where one of the moms smacked Abby and Abby called the cops saying “the lady with the cool and trendy haircut hit me”, and that was a pretty funny part.
Sounds like a good trainwreck
I won't watch it though
Dont forget the episode where one of the moms told her to get off her phone during a performance and she drove all the way to a police station
@@e.e.y.1803 how could I not
The clip of her wheeling off to a DQ after getting pissed at someone during a recital, and then the camera crew and producing just chasing after her not knowing what to do will forever live on as some of the funniest shit I’ve seen
@@idkman9696 dude I haven’t watched the show since like 2016 or something so I haven’t seen the recent seasons, I just heard one day she was going to jail for tax fraud or something and that was pretty cool to hear
Abby reminds me of those english or math teachers you had in school that were proud that no one liked their class. "If a kid likes the class, it's probably not challenging enough" - actual quote (maybe not word for word but the exact sentiment)
Now, it probably is a bit sus if most of the students are excited to go to english or math class, but you shouldn't throw any enjoyment out the window. It was usually older and drained teachers who had this attitude.
Funny thing is that after how badly Abby treated Jojo, she's practically crawling back to her and tying Jojo's success to herself. Even Jojo points out sometimes how badly she was treated and how nice she has it now, but moreso in a playful way so she doesnt sound like she resents Abby or is trying to turn the narrative against her. Jojo seems like such a kind girl, I'm glad she found success in all that mess.
She is literally the only one who can still bear Abby
@@nickoffscript Jojo is a child, hence why she's childish
And she was always nice to her!
“I can make a kid cry in 30 seconds” why is she genuinely proud of that
I mean, everybody can make most kids cry in 30 seconds but most of us have the common sense to not do that
Only 30 tho?I can do it in 10
I would pay to see her on Gordon Ramsay’s cooking show. That would be real entertainment
Gordon:
Dear iamabbyandamtrash ure free trial of life has expired
Or just a screaming match 😬
That fucking Gordon Ramsay violin sting pisses me off 😭
At least gordon is not extremely toxic with kids as this woman is
Abby would go home with deaf ears
My kid went to a dance school. I can relate to this. The backstage mums were brutal. The day my kid said she didn't want to do ballet was the best day of my life in a long while. I hated the whole experience.
I feel like, unless the local authorities are *heavily* involved, minors should not be on any show what-so-ever.
Sure, it'll be a huge inconvenience for producing content featuring kids, but if Daddy-o-five, Cuties and Dance Moms have taught us anything, it's that we can't trust producers around minors. :/
If that occured, then we wouldn't get the incredible performance of dafne keen from Logan.
@@desisparta If "Logan" is the X-Men related movie, then I regret yo say I haven't seen it.
Regardless, we're balancing out whether adults can have more and more access into the lives of children; it's a risk-reward kind of thing. We could have characters like you mentioned (which I didn't openly object to, as I said there was an exception in my original comment), but at the same time, we run the risk of other producers committing to pedophilia and child abuse.
Personally, I think the risk is far too steep; time has shown we're currently too unregulated (entertainment wise) to work with children in environments lacking in domestic moderation.
Not sure, if we really need local authorities (unless with stuff like Cuties where it borders on a crime) but yeah, something like these shows need to be more controlled, if they treat the children right.
It honestly should be a given, that this should only happen, as long as the child really wants to be part of a show (and not be moms/dads tool to live out their failed dreams) and the staff working on it does every so it feels comfortable.
But then you sadly have these kinds of shows, where they make the children miserabel and you just wonder, how much it screws with their lives later on.
@@desisparta I think there are ways to do it well, but reality T.V is not the way. Ever.
Sad to say it, but I agree
You know, if you’re gonna teach dancing, you might want to be a dancer.
*Also anything on the Lifetime channel is instantly cursed*
They had a teen pregnancy movie on there, that was insanely cursed
TLC, too.
@@userequaltoNull oh yeah you are really right about that TLC is the shitiest channel to ever be in public for every poor human being to witness
@@lamlelamatsiliza8550 TLC was always my guilty pleasure. Mostly looking at the dresses on Say Yes to the Dress or saying wtf to 600 Pound Life. It's trash TV, but don't touch my garbage!
@@aliceiscalling umm ok what ever floats your boat pal
Has anyone noticed Abby often tries to bite people in her rage, like a rabid dog...?
If pit bulls where humans, she’d be the the perfect example of one.
@@bowiethebuffoon4873 at least pit bulls are sweeter than that thing.
@@Elloitslimegoat you do have a point…
@@Elloitslimegoat they're way sweeter
@@taleseylad1249 yep
Abby says she’s the best in the room and while I don’t doubt she knows how to dance, I highly doubt she can without breaking something.
Well uh I don't mean to be rude in saying this but I don't think she can really dance now: she's paralyzed...
She would probably break the floor
@@nxcrorat Oh, now I feel bad.
@@yanfei7782 don't.
That’s the thing I don’t think she can dance maybe when she was a kid but on this show? No way. She just yells out a move and the kids better know exactly what she’s talking about. Her physically dancing? Nah man. Gianna was the only adult I saw actually doing the moves.
Abby: will throw a tantrum when a child calmly asks if she can have a solo.
Jojo: can stay calm while being on the verge of tears as abby is screaming in her face, telling her she deserves nothing.
Now remind me who the child is and who the adult is?
Ummmm...I don't know who is the adult🤔🤔 I think it's JoJo and Abby is behaving like a bratty 4 year old child 😂
jojo is an adult in the body of a child and abby is a child in the body of an adult
Jojo was probably in shock tbf
Abby gonna need a bigger diaper 😆🤣🤣🤣
Dat beeutch was and still is the perfect example of a Karen before the meme became popular with liberals and delinquents.
the part about abby insulting chloe's medical condition really hurts me. my sister has silent sinus syndrome, and she gets bullied constantly because her eye is all janked up. it just destroys her self esteem.
EXCALIBUUUUUR, EXCALIBUUUUUUUR!
@@mikethegoo FOOL
@@holyswordexcalibur5432 *Pulls the "I met Excalibur" face*
"Her eye is all janked up" probably doesn't help her self esteem.
@@j-rodthelibrarykid1166 she’s just trying to summarise it and perhaps isn’t too sure on the medical terminology. Nothing wrong with it.
"are u making fun of me cause im in a wheelchair and i cant stomp my feet"
1. that is an expression
2. When people start nitpicking random details rather than argumenting, you know you won.
the second point is literally a logical fallacy, straw man to be more specific. abby is soo bad.
abby made fun of chloe's medical condition, abby's full of shit
Remember that one part in the show where Abby insulted Nias hair? I don’t know why people back then disregarded her actions and said that she was just being “strict” like no she’s straight up verbally abusing kids.
It really speaks to the horrible culture of competitive children's sports that so many people can excuse a woman screaming in a child's face until they cry as "just being strict" and a "tough teacher". Just because it's been normalized, it doesn't mean that it's okay. Fear may seem to be an effective way of motivating people in the short-term, but in the long-term, it actually leads to poorer performance due to anxiety, especially when you're doing it to CHILDREN, who will internalize that stuff for life.
Exactly!!! The sooner people realize this kind of toxicity is found in a lot of competitive children’s sports the better, it’s hidden behind gymnastics, behind soccer, behind dance, behind basketball. I think dance classes just adds as few pinches of body image issues and toxic femininity and theatricality to make it more “reality show worthy”
I always think of it like Gorden Ramsey. He's tough with kids but its in a you made a mistake that's okay I'm proud of you for trying let me show you how to do this so that you don't make the mistake again. He doesn't yell he doesn't judge or degrade he says its okay lets try again. I think that's what kids needs maybe don't coddle but be sweet
Agreed :0 and it drives children away from dance :( unacceptable behavior as a teacher. Im a choreographer now and I feel like rule number 1 is never throw your dancers under bus :( ☹
Remember when she kissed a child on the lips and nobody cared
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@@cryptid176 It's season 6 In dance moms. It's the episode when some girls had to do a dance with boys and they had to kiss. So when Abby Lee grabbed a girl she kissed a girl mouth to mouth it's disgusting because Abby held her cheek like they was making out.
And that little 9/10 year old ran out of the room while her mother laughed about it upstairs. Disgusting
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The fact that woman abuse Chloe for so long just because she didn't like her mom is the most disgusting thing, she even make fun of her eye, admit she never wanted her to win, yell to her face she "will destroy her" seriously, how on earth is that nasty woman allow to teach to children
Because, again, they know we watch to get indignant.
Chloe came out just fine. Abby can be a bitch, but keep in mind, you only see what the cameras want you to see, which is chaos & drama that Abby is usually in the middle of.
@@texrose7068 didn’t know you knew Chloe personally💀 she literally said she suffered from multiple eating disorders.
@@racheledwards9585 relax rachel
@@racheledwards9585 just like I say to everyone.
Move along, opinions are like assholes, everyone’s got one & most of them stink.
My friend’s mom is also friends with the mom cast of dance mom’s, and my friend told me that they heavily suggest not to go to the Abby Lee dance company. I was like “why won’t they let you go?” And now that I watch this video, I can definitely see why.
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Edit: Thanks so much for the likes XD
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"YOU DESERVE N O T H I N G"
While it’s *amazing* Jojo had that self-awareness and empathy for the other girls, it’s so sad that her innocence had to be cut down to get to that point. Imagine traumatizing a child so much that they start examining the behavior of adults and questioning the people they have no choice but having to trust.
Yeah, it's really sad that Jojo could calmly say "if you yell at me, I'm gonna cry." Wonder how many times she's had to explain that to an adult to get that calm about it.
Abby telling Nia and her mother Holly that she couldn’t wear braids made me livid. She was allowed to change the style but not the cut- which she did. Abby still had a heyday. And the amount of times she called Holly a bad/absent mother for *working* and *getting her doctorate* instead of being at the dance studio? Abby can’t handle anyone who doesn’t conform to her exact standards and beliefs. Watching the show back as an adult instead of a child is just heartbreaking. Abby’s abusive tendencies are why my mom would never watch the show with me back in the day.
@jsea321 I’m American, Ghanaian German and Swedish descent. 😊
@jsea321 aw thanks! ✨
The way she treated Nia and Holly was absolutely appalling! I remember in a few episodes in which she actually excluded Nia and JoJo from group dances and group activities all because Nia was performing a concert and decided to have JoJo dance with her. As someone who has seen quite a few episodes (my mom LOVES the show) it always felt, if you weren't Maddie or Mackenzie or Kendall, you were nothing
It would piss me off the she looked down on the other mother's for not working, always making comments like "I don't have a husband to pay my bills," and saying things like "People used to just drop there kids off at the studio and let me do my job." Yet she said that shit to Holly about being absentee! There is no way to make her happy. Either way, you're slacking and you're less than her in her mind. She's crazy
11:07 I'm pretty sure this is considered slander, an actual crime, and she could (and absolutely should) sue for millions. That's literally defamation of character and I highly encourage everyone on that show to sue the absolute ever loving crap out of the scumbags on that show that were responsible for intentionally portraying her in such a light.
And they absolutely deserve to be sued for every penny they own for that, no cap.
It's ironic Abby insults very fit teenage girls, whilst she weighs 300 pounds and barely ever stands up.
Jealous and lazy but still is a narcissistic clout chaser.