Halo: Broken Circle - Review
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Sorry for the wait, and I know it's inopportune to post this right before the Master Chief Collection comes out, so I hope you'll forgive me.
Halo: Broken Circle is an amazing book! Delving into the history of the Covenant an introducing tons of new, and well-written, characters. From the founding of the Covenant to the Great Schism, this book is a must read!
Apologies in advance for the dry delivery.
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I always just rationalize the covenant nicknames being the same as the human designations is just a result of the covenant language being translated into our human language.
Anthem same
i always seperated race and then the name marines call them, i.e. buggers
Yeah a fair rationalization considering this book also uses human years (IE: B.C.E) as well
*That's a trope called Translation Convention, and its perfectly acceptable.*
"Welcome back, Spartans"
Me, an Elite: WOW, DISCRIMINATION
I can't believe I'm saying this but I actually have respect for some of the San' Shyumm now! Mken and Zo are among the few decent San Shyumm who saw through the Covenant from the start! And I flippin LOVED Ussa and Bal'Tol Xellus! I wonder if any of this is going to be incorporated into the games lore. Might be content for the terminals in Halo 5. Really enjoyed this book and the characters and plot were solid. Good job John Shirley!
Yeah, what about those Warrior San Shyumm that rejected the Forerunner technology, that were great warriors, and were able to take on several elites and win.
The chairbound San Shyumm were the San Shyumm that fought the Sanghelli in the war that formed the Covenant, and of course could do jack shit against elites.
As opposed to having Plasma weaponry, it would have been more fitting if the old Sangheili had early versions of Needlers, Needle Rifles, and Carbines.
12:34 This completely went over my head when I read it, thanks for pointing it out I love those subtle references to things like this.
Just finished listening to the audiobook. 11 hours long and I finished it in two days!
Half an hour review?? Keep up the hard work man!
I wanted to make it shorter, but there's just so much going on!
Note: Spoilers ahead!!!
I just finished reading it myself. I agree with your input on the coincidence of covenant naming vs human naming. It probably was a liberty from the author to show people who perhaps mainly played the games and didn't know the species' actual names.
Overall, I agree it was a great read.
My only real qualm with the book is that it doesn't really reveal the fate of Janjur Quom. It is previously stated by the San Shyuum that it was destroyed when its star went supernova in, I believe, Halo Encyclopedia. It then speculates that they could have been lying about said-destruction of Janjur Quom because they were distrustful of the Sangheili, then further speculates that if its destruction is a lie, it would be hard to maintain said-lie for thousands of years.
I think it is hinted in the first half of Broken Circle (ie. 850 BC) that San Shyuum scientists speculated that the star of the San Shyuum's home system is nearing going supernova. Near the end of the book (ie. 2553), it is stated by Prophet of Clarity, Zo Resken, that he may be the only San Shyuum left, after High Charity's destruction. Him thinking he may be the only San Shyuum left, may hint further of JanJur Quom's destruction.
I just kind of wish they confirmed it, and perhaps looked into a possible conspiracy theory of whether Janjur Quom was truly destroyed.
Anyways, overall, it was a great read.
I agree, a confirmation would have been nice. I do think that whole bit about Janjur Qom's sun being unstable is meant to give credence to the story of it exploding, though.
Halo Canon I did like though the reference to The Forerunner Saga, aka the legend of the Forerunners "punishing" the San 'Shyuum by wiping out most life on Janjar Quom for defying the "gods" (aka Master Builder firing a Halo ring on the planet to supress a San 'Shyuum rebellion).
Thank you so much for the spoiler alert!😄 I appreciated it very much and I now have you as my favorite channel.
I think the only reason they call the other alien species the same as the UNSC is so you don't get confused.
This book restored my faith in Halo fiction. After Mortal Dictata, I had to take a long break lol. I was very happy to see this in the store.
Is Mortal Dictata really that bad? I have read only the first 2 books of Kilo-Five trilogy, so how does it stand against the first 2?
Opinions vary. For me, Mortal Dictata was the worst Halo novel, bar-none. For others, it was the best of the Kilo-5 trilogy.
@Lamont Hammonds: The book seems to indicate that the "Miasmic Giants" were space-faring, so I highly doubt it was the Brutes. Given the meaning of the work Miasmic, my first though were the hunters, but in the end it could be nothing more than a new species.
I doubt the Sharquoi are the Precursors. Rather, just a part of this new "Covenant Fringe" that was introduced recently.
They're Drinols.
maybe the cabal from destiny?
What would be awesome in halo 5 is a float fight gamemode
I was looking at reviews for this book on Goodreads and a lot of the negative reviews seems to be based around the fact that the book didn't go into detail like you mentioned
Just finished Broken Circle, and I have to day that I pretty much agree entirely with your opinion.
I feel like if the unidentified aliens were the "miasmic giants" that the system was named after, then creka would refer to them as "the miasmic giants" or "the giants of the so and so system". I feel like they just happened to be in that system at the time and from the looks of it, the elites had no idea who, or what they were.
Also, I found it interesting that they weren't too far off from a forerunner shield world. Perhaps a short jump away. Kinda reminds me of the terminal 5 species being suspiciously near installation 04.
Mken went to Janjur Qom to get San Shyuum not Sangheili.
Shit! I re-recorded that damn line so many times...
Halo Canon at first I thought I misheard u or was going insane when u said going to get sangheli glad to know I'm not insane lol
The metal elite armour was actually seen in the halo legends short film 'The babysitter'.
Thank you for saying Spartans and elites at the end, my respect for you just skyrocketed!!!
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Broken Circle might be my favorite Halo book. It delves into a part of the Halo history I've wanted to know more of for years.
I miss when halo canon used his spartan to narrate
@Liam Roberto: I'm sure they have projectiles weapons, but they are never mentioned.
The Elites using missile weapons are mentioned during the book if that counts
James Pennington Were they? I don't recall.
+Halo Canon it's been a while sense I read the book though I believe it's the Refuge Elites that have a missile launcher
James Pennington I'll have to take a look sometime. I could swear they had gone pure-plasma, but maybe not. Hell, 1500 years later, maybe they couldn't sustain the plasma tech and reverted to projectile.
+Halo Canon I would think so, most of their other weapons and tech seem to be degrading so it's not a stretch that the Refuge elites made some Magshaft weapons more advanced then a crossbow.
You knowing about the actual illuminati makes me respect you 10x more than I already did.
Just read the entire book 8-9 hours straight, loved it.
Just wanted ask you (without spoiling) is New Blood a good read? I know it's based on our good buddy Buck but outside of that I don't know much else about it. Great review btw :)
Derek Collins New Blood was amazing, and I absolutely recommend it!
Halo Canon duly noted my friend! Thanks!
It's good, but... why'd they kill *him* off that way?
About the covenant having the same nicknames for their species, is it possible that humans found out about the nicknames from the covenant themselves?
It's possible, but it's never even been hinted at in other fiction.
Halo Canon I think one of the books had John and other Spartan 2's discussing the "elites" that they had learned about from covenant battle net chatter, though they hadn't actually encountered the species yet themselves. So I think we at least got the Sangheili nickname from the covenant.
Requ1escat1nPACE That sounds like "Fall of Reach". Admittedly, I haven't read that in a while, so maybe there is such a reference in there.
Amazing! By the way, don't stress about taking time on your videos. They're such good quality and I understand why it takes a while. They are always worth the wait! When I get an Xbox One in December, we have got to play together! Keeo up the great work:D
kreka? does he have a friend named nahdiki?
this man is a real G
I think the Ministries are a reference to 1984.
@Halo Canon You really should rename the these kinds of videos as they aren't really reviews and are more like summaries of the books/comics/web series. Don't get me wrong, they're great, they're just not what their videos say they are. Otherwise, keep up the good work champ. :)
When Zo refused to partake in the torture he become one of my favorite characters in the novels.
A somewhat lesser known gem of a Halo novel, I would say. Plus, seeing sympathetic San'Shyuum characters are always a treat in the Halo 'verse.
You're right, though, it sure gives us way too many unanswered questions... though one might argue that explaining them might ruin the mystique.
Nothing against your pronunciation but I listen to the audiobook of the halo books and I fell like how the readers do the pronunciation wayyyyy better. Do should try it. It gives the experience a boost
The burn blade is something I found very interesting in the book as I couldn't really imagine it as shaped like an energy sword, the way some of the Sangheili were described as holding it and how it rested on the hip didn't seem to fit with the shape of the energy sword. Because of this I always imagined the burn blade as looking similar to the Egyptian khopesh, just sized up a bit and with a differently shaped hilt to fit the inhuman shape of Sangheili hands.
Great review, very appreciated for catching up with halo lore!
Very in-depth review. Good Job.
One comment: Wasn't it V'ornik 'Gred that was flung out into space following the encounter with Kinsa? In the video, you said it was Xelq, whom I believe was relaying video to Bal Tol during this time.
It was. I got my Elites mixed up :P
When I think about it, it kinda makes sense that the sanghelli would not advance their armour as much as their weapons, they are warriors all round and seem to focus their on the pure combat aspect of being a warrior, with honour of course.
Enjoyed your review, I loved this book, it was such a great read. The whole Kilo Five Trilogy was such a waste of time, it almost made me give up on Halo lore.
Hopefully the new ones will be as if not better than this one.
Question, what do you think of the 343's plan to release 5 novels next year? don't you think it's too much?
Isaac Campos It seems like it may be canon overload, but I'm optimistic at the moment, especially after Broken Circle and New Blood.
I had no problem with the first two Kilo-Five books as they were pretty good. No Fall of Reach or First Strike quality, but it's still alright.
Maybe I like the series because I have not read Morta Dictatum, so my opinion might change if I read it.
Zelousmarineinspace I enjoyed the first two books well enough, I only genuinely hated Mortal Dictata.
9:30 the burnblade is the weapon used by the elite that kills the arbiter in halo legends
I just went through the Kilo-Five Trilogy and while I can see why you aren’t the biggest fan (I’ve seen your reviews on them) they do not deserve to be shat on so much everytime you mention the trilogy imo
In reference the "The system of Miasmic Giants". The word Miasmic means "of a repulsive or repugnant smell." Is there a species in the current canon that classifies? Brutes maybe? And great call on the Sharquoi (or however you spell it). Sometimes I forget they existed. And would there be any possible way these giants could be the Precursors? Although they were hunted to extinction by the Forerunners, they were a tier 0 civilization, capable of travel on an intergalactic scale? Seeming that bugs do sometimes produce bad odor, and precursors were closest to what we call bugs.
The jackels... that's the nick name given to the shield wielding covenant. Sgt. Johnson even calls them that in halo 2.
the Kig Jar (or Kig Yar i don't remember) are nicknamed "Jackals" it's mentioned in halo reach and probably other halo games
I meant that the Covenant don't have a nickname for the Kig-Yar.
Halo Canon oh, ok, i've probably accidently missed a part of the speech then :)
Another good video as always. And on another note, (comunity question)what do you think of the Halo 5 gameplay that was leaked? I think their are some great invasions 343 has added. People say that they hate ADS, but I think that it was need, it's not really changing anything. But I would like to see what you guys think.
Well, it's not really ADS. It's the same zoom-feature that's been in every Halo game, but now every weapon has it. You can still shoot from the hip, and you get descoped if shot. Overall, from what I've seen, I'm looking forward to H5:G. It looks to be a lot of fun!
True, I can't wait for H5:G. But the MCC will tide me over until then:)
...Yikes, these probably haven't aged well.
I have a quick question. Though this video isn't the most appropriate for it, I was wondering if you will be going to do a Lets Lore (I love that name by the way) of the Master Chief Collection?
Of sorts. Starting tomorrow, I'll be doing a Legendary live-stream of the MCC, from the start of Halo CEA to the end of Halo 4. Anyone wishing to play with me is welcome to join. Details are at the end of this video, actually.
Lol, I had such a different headcannon origin story where the "Covenant" was simply that - a pact between sanshyuum & sangheili. But the 3 prophets & this militant arm they fought control over was just an arm of a greater forerunner religious organization & later on we'd confront the "pope" of this religious faction the covenant was apart of.
I think the System of Miasmic Giants referred to the planets. But if the planets are indeed gas giants, it is possible that the aggressive species were in fact Lekgolo, as they are known to live in gas giants (their homeworld, Te, is one).
Say, any plans to make a video about your recommended list of must read Halo books and comics later on? Might want to compare it with mine as well.
I just couldn't get into the writing of this book, it turned me away within the first chapter. The battle of Planets Red and Blue? And the bland writing? Can anyone tell me if it gets any better? I really wanted to like this book because the Covenant side of the story is one of my favourite parts of Halo.
Floats Near Ceiling, holy shit that's funny!😆
Thanks for the video Halo Canon.
I love your channel
Great vid, but one question: what's the real Illuminati? Again great vid ✌️
*floats near ceiling*
Actually I believe they had vary basic plasma weapons and so projectia ones too, but mainy swords
Hoping later on in the Halo games you encounter other species which passed the precursors tests and were given the mantle or the precursors were not all destroyed by the forerunners or well themselves as they became the flood, perhaps they went off to seed other parts of dark space..
Only the Precursors have ever held the mantle. They rejected the Forerunners as guardians of the mantle, and intended to give it to humanity, but the Forerunners tried to kill off the Precursors and create a fake mantle to proclaim themselves as the guardians of the mantle.
Of our galaxy , as far as we know. The rest of the universe is up for grabs and the Precursors are shrouded in mystery
Pretty sure "Bias" is being used an a suffix meaning dedicated purpose.
I thought the convent did not know the location of the halo rings
My internal pronunciation was Muh-ken Scey-ah-ben. So it was weird hearing this. And Janjur Kom, there's no U in Qom. But, nitpicks.
They should make this a game
engineers have the funniest names
Just going to listen to a few minutes of this because I'll be getting the book for myself soon and I'd rather not spoil the whole thing :P
skip to 25:00 for the spoiler-free summary.
Halo Canon
I wanted to listen to this, but also didn't want to be spoiled; so cheers for providing a time stamp to the spoiler free bit. Your positive attitude at the beginning was more than enough for me, though.
Will we be hearing your thoughts on Nightfall ep 1 soon, as well?
I saw something in a frame there...
I always thought the unsc got the nicknames of the aliens from the aliens them selves just like they got the name Covenant from the aliens
Skipped to the rating in order to avoid spoilers (Sorry). I heard about Broken Circle but after not finishing Thursday War I was unsure about buying another one. I'll give it a look though... I definitely need to be reading novels more anyway.
Skipped Mortal Dictata and the Forerunner trilogy completely (Blame my Halopedia addiction). I should probably jump back into the novels.
The Forerunner Trilogy is a definite must, in my opinion, and Broken Circle is a prefect place to jump back into the Halo books. Kilo-5 is skippable, I think. Halopedia might be the better option there.
First two of Kilo-5 are pretty good, in my opinion, but I have a massive bias (that would be name if they ever made me into a Contender) towards anything Halo, so my vision may be a bit colored. That being said...avoid Mortal Dictata as if it were a plague ship filled with Black Death infested rats.
I also think the Forerunner Trilogy was very enjoyable. I too had/have a Halopedia addiction but you'll have forgotten a significant portion of what you know by the time you read them that it will still be surprising and entertaining. Even if you don't have the memory of a goldfish like me, its still really great to read a book from the perspective of people like the Librarian and both the Ur and Iso-Didacts as they attempt to defeat the Flood, eventually being forced to resort to using the Halo array. Greg Bear is a fine author. No rage-inducing segments will be found within them.
The only thing u didn't mention is the beautiful artwork on the book cover
Perhaps i like the kilo 5 books due to audio books? Its really awsome most books can be found on RUclips. I higly recommend the broken circle Read by Scott Brick. Rock on!
Right aren't the audiobooks better?
+Luis it gives the story a litle more personality i think :)
Imagine a sharquoi that was infected by the flood ....o-o
Also , I am the only one who finds flat near celling to be a funny name :P
there are more than 2 contender class
Covanent WW1
Do a contact Harvest review
Kig Yar=Jackals
I think you meant marked for assassination, not marketed.
instead of books lets have 343 make games to explain the story
Jackals
You mean chicken?
*Skirmishers
nice
Now this book was a good read compared to the Kilo 5 trilogy. Those books were awful.
Hello spartan
first!